What's My Line? - Eddie & Marilyn Cantor; Martin Gabel [panel] (Jun 2, 1957)
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- MYSTERY GUEST: Eddie Cantor [vaudeville, Broadway, film, radio and television entertainer] & Marilyn [one of his 5 daughters]
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Martin Gabel, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
![What's My Line? - Johnnie Ray; Ozzie Nelson [panel]; Janet Blair [panel] (Jun 9, 1957)](/img/n.gif)
I'm very happy to see so many nice comments about Eddie Cantor posted here. Eddie was an enormously talented fellow who was liked by all. Unfortunately, as time has gone by he's been largely forgotten because he died in 1964...two years before I was born. As an aficionado of show business in the 20th century I've read a lot about Cantor and this past January, while in Los Angeles I visited Eddie Cantor in the mausoleum at Hillside Memorial Park. Eddie is interred next to his wife. Also at Hillside are Al Jolson, Jack Benny and George Jessel, all of whom were Eddie's pals.
They were all in atmospheric company. May they all rest in peace.
@@shirleyrombough8173 Indeed.
"Banjo Eyes" they called him.
Did you see mine? LMAO 🤣😅🤣🤣🤣
Gone 60 years on October 10th 😢🎩
"Is the gentleman the father of five famous daughters?" Much as I love and admire Eddie and his work, I guess I am not as familiar with him as so many of the other Legends, so I didn't know about the 5 daughters. But I asked my 91 year old mother, and before I said his name, when I said 5 famous daughters, she said "Oh Eddie Cantor, of course". Evidently his having five daughters was a very big deal in the media of the early-mid 20th Century. (And I am SO glad my mom is still around for these things!)
Oh yes, it was also one of the running gags about him on his radio show and whenever he guested on other people's programs. I've hardly heard a Cantor show where there wasn't at least one joke reference to his having five daughters. But the daughters weren't famous-- he was famous as the father of five daughters.
There's an old Merrie Melodie with Cantor swimming and bumping into a buoy. He hugs it and says, "At last, a buoy!"
IIRC, Cantor wrote the lyrics to "Merrily We Roll Along," which was the theme of "Merrie Melodies."
What's My Line? One of his daughters was married to Robert Clary of Hogan s Heroe s, I believe she ws married once before him but their marriage lasted until her death
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Specifically the running gag was that all the daughters were unmarriageable. They weren't all thrilled with that. Marilyn was married for many years, and at least some of the other daughters were also married, as has already been mentioned.
Arlene was a class act.
finally someone who can answer questions about her own job without help from john
This just shows you you can be a HUGE star and be forgotten
When Eddie Cantor did a good deed for someone, another party said, "That was a Christian thing to do," and he answered, "No, it was a Jewish thing to do."
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Another sparkler. Thanks very much.
I know Marilyn Son he is was my psychologist who helped me when I was young he helps children and young adults who have Autism
No surprise Kindness ran in the family!
Eddie Cantor was such a humble man. nothing pretentious about him. Notice after shaking hands with the panel he also waved to the audience.
Frances Willis was a graduate of Stanford University, actually, and, after getting her A.B. in history in 1920 (she was Phi Beta Kappa), she pursued graduate studies and received a Ph.D. from Stanford in 1923. So she should have been addressed properly as Dr. Willis. She actually held ambassadorial posts in Switzerland, Norway and Ceylon (Sri Lanka), after having held lesser posts in the Foreign Service in Chile, Sweden, Belgium, Spain, England and Finland. She also served as a U.S. representative to the United Nations in more than one capacity after her work as a U.S. ambassador ended. She was a college professor, too, as was pointed out, at Goucher College and then Vassar College before entering the Foreign Service, and she also served as Chairman of the University of Redlands Johnston College Board of Overseers and Long Range Planning Committee, which is what she was referring to when Bennett asked if she had anything to do with the University of Redlands. I'd say that Dr. Willis was both distinguished and accomplished. Both Arlene and Dorothy must have been impressed with Dr., Willis -- they both stood up to shake hands with her.
Addressing her as Dr. Willis might have given the panel a clue as to her occupation. I can remember several other PhDs and MDs who have appeared on the show, and I don't think any of them were addressed as "doctor" or "professor". There were also a few panellists who were addressed as "miss" when they were married (a bigger deal then than now), because signing in under their married name would have given something away.
What a magnificent career! Of course they would stand to greet any ambassador, impressive or not.
@@wholeNwon True and it's generally expected to stand (at least common etiquette calls for it) for foreign and domestic dignitaries.
I was impressed just watching her on this show.
What a very impressive lady. She was firm and forthright, but also very gracious and with a sense of fun about her.
I love Eddie Cantor! How the bloody heck did I miss this episode until now? Maybe I've just forgotten it...
I liked Eddie too, but he was best taken in small short doses. I liked him as a guest star for instance.
I missed it too!
Eddie Cantor was my Mother's radio performer (somehow she loved him even more than Jack Benny, and I forgave her)...It is so sad that such an important figure in show business is better known as a character on the "Broadwalk Empire" tv series more than all of his years in the business.
Yes, barstools often have moving parts -- if the seats swivel, they're connect to the base by a two-part steel swiveling bracket with ball bearings in it. As to contacting the body below the knees, barstools all have something upon which you can rest your feet since they're too high for the feet to reach the floor. Some merely have rungs for the purpose -- others have footrests designed for the purpose. As to sitting on a barstool at home -- we had a breakfast bar in our kitchen in the 1950's and 60's with four swiveling barstools and I knew of other homes that had such an arrangement.
Dorothy asks "Is it solid!" and John immediately answers "Jackson!" A confusing answer but obviously the phrase "Solid, Jackson" was some beat slang in the 50s for something cool. 16:32
It goes all the way back at least to the 1930s. Phil Harris used to call Jack Benny "Jackson".
Respectfully, don't give a squat
The Bedol twins were ski troopers, as John mentioned, in the 10th Mountain Division, the only skiing division of the US Army. They distinguished themselves further earning the Bronze Star with clusters. One of their friends in that elite troop was future senator, Bob Dole.
MarshAllan Industries once employed 500 people in Cleveland, and had additional factories in Venice, California, Wichita Falls, Texas, and West Haven, Connecticut. They made tray tables for many celebs and dignitaries, including Princess Diana & Prince Charles, and for JFK's inaugural ball.
I love how Martin and Arlene made it a point to not say good night to each other.
I remember in an early years episode they were sitting together and Arlene said goodnight to Martin and he made a joke about how he hoped he would still see her in the near future. And another time, Arlene said something along the lines of "goodnight Martin..well not goodnight but you know..goodnight everyone" I have been mostly watching from 1950-53 so I think that is when these are from, I remember at the time wondering of they had received letters about it or if they just thought it was funny. Happy you pointed it out in this episode!
Perfect for Arlene Francis...
Martin Gabel calls Arlene a "young woman" instead of a "girl." Bravo Martin.
Who actually cares about that?
Judging by her obvious enjoyment and enthusiasm, the Ambassador seemed likely overdue and in need of some fun and laughter, or a ‘night out on the town’, so to speak. Anyone else get that impression?
No that’s one of her job requisites, to be charming and diplomatic at events.
I thought she seemed really charming, good-natured, fun, and expressive. :)
I got that as well.
Marilyn Cantor's gown was so beautiful, just like her! Her father, Eddie was wonderful! Blessed Father and daughter.
I always picture Eddie Cantor when he sang "Makin' Whoopee."
I always picture him when he sang, My Baby Just Cares For Me! Lol
Eddie Cantor was the inventor of the name "March of Dimes".
Doug Mangum More correctly he "coined the phrase".
Please post proof pronto, pics preferred
@@joeambrose3260 It's easy enough to Google.
$50 prize. I started working in 1957.My first weeks pay was £2 for 45 hours (about $5 at the time)
Value of $50.00 in 1957, would be $465.53 in 2020.
@@1953mazda But I'm quite sure $50 could do much more than what $465 does in 2020!
$50 was a weeks pay. or a house payment 😊 1957
About 22:20, they mention Eddies autobiography "Take My Life " - I read it years ago, in the Ziegfeld Follies in the 1920s he was good friends with W.C. Fields and Will Rogers.
I too read "Take My Life"...an excellent and interesting read.
@@METALITHrevetments Also, at Redondo library they have their own hardback copy (like mine) of "Take My Life", but damn, their copy has Eddie's AUTOGRAPH in it, which was very tempting/ I almost wanted to switch copies. But no, I couldn't (could you)?
@@bobbyfrancis8957 I could, and probably would. But then I'm a sneak from WAY back.
"Half a suit of armour"....how many drinks had Dorothy had before the show
Their was such a thing as half armor 😊
A biography of Frances Willis that includes an image of the postage stamp issued in her honor by the USPS.
adst.org/oral-history/fascinating-figures/frances-willis-the-first-career-female-ambassador/#.WjNEf1XtzIU
I’m glad shows like “Boardwalk Empire” have introduced a new generation to Eddie Cantor.
My strength is as of 10 ... Arlene is so charming & clever
Talented. Intelligent, gorgeous 😊
It would appear that the panel does not do much travel in Norway or sitting on barstools.
Even the ladies stood for the US Ambassador to Norway. Nice to see. She was a lovely lady.
It was called proper etiquette 😊
Both Arlene and Dorothy stood to greet Ms. Willis as she left which is a rare occurrence.
I loved seeing Dorothy kiss the ring of Bishop Fulton Sheen.
+Jeff Vaughn I guess they considered an ambassadress important enough to merit such a show respect.
EDIT:
Dorothy: Oh, is Arlene standing? I guess I'd better do so as well.
+Nelson Ricardo Doesn't always happen -- been a few times where Arlene stood and Dorothy didn't.
@@Arthur_McGowan Dorothy was a good Catholic girl who was murdered by the mafia
i dont understand why women standing to greet someone surprises so many people.
it has always been, a lady does not stand to greet someone, a man does.
the exception is if the seated lady feels the person she is greeting outranks or is somehow a more important person then she is.
it is showing respect for that person, honoring them.
My mother was cooking Sunday breakfast as the news of Eddie Cantor's death was reported on the radio. It was a very sad morning in my household.
Arlene and Dorthy were classy ladies
I love TH-cam so much for stuff like this❤
Dang, I wish I could see Arlene's dress in color.
Sadly Marilyn Cantor or Margie, Eddie Cantors first daughter born in 1915, died of cancer 2 years after this show. She was a wonderful intelligent woman who helped her father in all aspects of his career for many years. That was her "career" for her whole life.
Actually, it was his daughter Marjorie who died in 1959. Marilyn lived until 2010. No matter what, it is very sad to lose a daughter so young.
Marilyn was 89 when she died.
Eddie wrote other books..including a second memoir"My Life Is In Your Hands"(both books"Take My Life & My Life is In Your Hands" have been reprinted and updated and sold once again).
The Bedol brothers were among the most pleasant guests I've seen on the show. Both were so amiable and engaging.
They did well to reflect the good natured people of Cleveland, Ohio!
I'll bet Frances Willis encountered Julia Child after Julia moved to Norway in 1959 when her husband, Paul Child, was assigned to the U.S. Embassy in Oslo. Dr. Willis served as our ambassador to Norway from 1957 to 1961. By the way, I note that Julia Child's first cookbook, "Mastering the Art of French Cooking" (co-written with Simone Beck and Louisette Bertholle) was published in 1961 by Alfred A. Knopf, Inc. -- and Random House acquired Knopf in 1960, so Bennett was, in a sense, actually Julia Child's first publisher, since Random House owned Knopf at the time of publication. (That cookbook, by the way, is still in print today and sells quite well.)
When watching this as a boy of twelve, I did not find it very funny; now it's hilarious!! What happened? This show should be revived. I think it would do really well. Anyone out there think-so too?
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I would never advise tossing strawberries to hogs.
@James Miller: Sadly, I think there would be too much foul, sexual innuendos incorporated in today's TV programing. Watching later remakes as the likes of "Match Game" or "Hollywood Squares" for instance resorted to such content. I presume the producers at the time believed base humor is what the general public desired and subsequently the boosting of ratings.
The show may or may not do well if revived today. I say that with sincerity as I believe a great deal of the shows success was due to the level of grace, charm, wit and intellectual property this panel and moderator brought to the table. Some things are better remembered than resurrected.
@@slaytonp Well put. It would be so silly with an even more over amped audience that would laugh uproariously at a raised eyebrow.
I can just imagine some of the occupations that would be featured in a revival: "Dildo maker", "Condom factory worker", "TikTok twerker".
Miss Willis was enjoying this as much as John.😊 She even called out Arlene's double question like she was a pro on the show.
Extremely intelligent and knowledgeable 😊
The Bedol brothers look like pin-up boys
They make bar stools? I thought only bars did THAT, like the one Davy Crockett killed when it was only three!
BANJO EYES!!! Love him!!
"Syntax has Got me Going.. here.."
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When does it Not Martin.. ...when does it Not.. Lol
An article about Francid E. Willis - what an extraordinary woman: diplomacy.state.gov/discoverdiplomacy/explorer/peoplehistorical/170214.htm
Thanks for the link. And she was a great guest, too!
efesgirl999 Thank's for the link. What a great Lady.
efesgirl999 She appeared to really enjoy herself.
I apologize for being gossipy but am I the only one who thought John Daly was quite short-spoken in his "good night" to Dorothy? Anyway I looked the date up and it seems that the episode is only 2 weeks after the Mike Wallace interview with Mickey Cohen (according to Bennett Cerf the week before DK gave a story to the Journal American about John being jealous of Wallace and thus not letting him appear as Mystery Guest)
Thank you for letting us benefit from all those wonderful episodes! How on earth did you get them all??
Good observation. He seemed a little put out by it didn't he.
Gil Fates writes in his book that John didn't speak to Dorothy outside the show for over six months after her story.
i would say that his voice lacked the warm fuzzies it usually had. It might have been a better idea for the WML staff to arrange the seating (as they sometimes did) with Arlene in first chair and Dorothy in the third chair.
Johan Bengtsson What a “class” act; Mr Daley.
Interesting
A great episode, and a bit of foreshadowing... The superimposed white letters WHAT'S MY LINE? that fade out when the first panelist enters are in the new typeface that will appear in the animated opening credits soon. Last week's program was the last to use the What's My Line? logo in upper and lower case letters, slightly random in their positioning.
Neil Midkiff good observation! you should be a detective!
@@alexhu7939He is very knowledgeable and intelligent 😊
It is interesting in this episode they mention how they use the audience. Bennett mentions it directly, "I didn't get a reaction from the audience" Arlene says "I didn't get any feeling" about the same moment Bennett is soeaking of, and Dorothy says, "Bennett got no encouragement" about something he suggested. They speak a few times directly about how they get information from audience reactions but the other times I have noticed it they are explaining how they figured out an answer after it seems like they pulled an answer out of nowhere.
They would've known the answer if show was rigged😮
The Bar Stool makers look like twins. They have outdoorsy complexions like cowboys. Making bar stools must keep them in tiptop shape.
They are brothers.
I LOVE Whenshe Whispers in his ear..
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So when did Helene Curtis buy out Stopette?
I know Janet Cantor... Eddie's youngest daughter... I knew her very well and she told me a lot about her dad... Who was one of the most wonderful human beings to ever live! But the sad thing is... that all of the daughters HATED each other! And Janet PARTICULARLY hated Marilyn! But Janet was a wonderful person.. like her dad...
Didnt Eddie Cantor have an affair with Joan Davis around this time? As listed in the Joan Davis book.
1964 was a sad year indeed as within a span of a couple of months Grace Allen (August), Harpo Marx (September), and Eddie Cantor (October) all died.
This video is 1957 😊
The thing I remember after reading his biography decades ago and hearing from people that knew and worked with him was that he was a workaholic and a perfectionist.
I don't see the comment you are replying too but I wonder if you mean Bennett Cerf? Although I would believe it about any of the men on the show, it's hard to judge someone from what you see on tv.
I have heard of Eddie Cantor all my life but am not really familiar with his performances. Same with Al Jolson. I only heard him sing Mammy and Rockabye My Baby.
Both blackface performers but Eddie Cantor had a humanity in his. A few years ago I commented on Eddie Cantor meme... And I said just that. Eddie had a humanity that Al Jolson didn't have and that's evident in all of his performances...... Even those in the reviled black face. And shortly after... Janet Cantor's Sun contacted me and told me how they had appreciated what I wrote! From there I was put in contact with Janet cantor..... Eddie Cantor daughter! We stayed in contact for years and she told me many many things about her family and her dad! Eddie Cantor it was a wonderful human being... As I always thought... Enchanted Cantor was wonderful as well!
Congratulations
John's face at 15:15 😄
How does one move clockwise in a straight line?
It is the first time I am seeing female panelists in the show standing up for a guest!!
I'm watching these in chronological order and I think this was the third (maybe fourth?) time I've seen that happen.
Appropriate because Dr.Willis was on a whole other level in society.
Humility is attractive.🏵
Eleanor Roosevelt
Sister of a Religious Order
Senators
Billy Graham
Etc.
Does anyone else notice the eerie resemblance between the barstool brothers and JFK?
It's interesting how such a famous and popular program was able to succeed in the way that it did on such a minimal/skimpy budget (and yet I think that was part of the show's charm.) The one observation that speaks to "Cheapness" is the lack of at least one additional chair for when more than one guest needed to sit at Mr Daley's "commentator's desk." Two people have to manage to squeeze into one chair; and like the two guests that made bar stools who were both pretty husky guys, I would think it might just be a little bit uncomfortable. You would think that with the kind of famous advertising that sponsored this show, there would be enough revenue to purchase at least ONE more chair. You would think!
Hmmm, maybe the one chair is good for the camera angle at the desk. They look very chummy as well.
@@joycejean-baptiste4355Exactly😊
Did What's My Line, in their multi-year run, ever put out more than one chair? Was the only time, a second chair was provided, when Macy & Gimble were on the show?
They probably brought their own.
If they'd brought out another chair, the panelists would have known there was more than one mystery guest.
@@slaytonpNo😊
They weren't able to fit on that chair😊
Is it just me or does Ambassador Willis seem a little bit tipsy?
She just is excited and fearless.
She’s different alright
The bar stool was a great spot however a bit uncomfortable for those in the know.....as Dorothy Kilgallen was an alcoholic...God rest her soul....so am I
some of us are just very high functioning.....sad for us but trying to quit
A junkie too
I cannot find any mention of Dorothy being either an alcoholic or a junkie. Yes, she died of “apparent” alcohol and barbiturate overdose, but the circumstances are very cloudy.
NO. She most definitely was not an alcoholic. Smfh
Alcoholic is an overused term, sometimes a person is a problem drinker , I don’t know about you or Dorothy. May God help you on your road to sobriety ❤️
@markxxx1 Never was either one!😮
I love Mr. Francis being on the panel. He is like a little boy and Miss Arlene is his mom.
That would be a better way to describe their relationship than husband and wife.
Martin Gabel was considered one of the greatest catches when Arlene snagged him. She adored him and wore the heart shaped diamond necklace that he gave her every day. Unfortunately, a thief ran up and snatched it off her neck as she was getting out of a taxi in NYC.
Why did Marilyn Cantor appeared with her father, Eddie Cantor, as MG? Was she a wanna-be in show business?
Johan Bengtsson www.legacy.com/obituaries/nytimes/obituary.aspx?pid=145442556
@@efesgirl999 .
I'm late,
but thank you for the embedded comment!
I was lovely to read about someone who was so obviously loved and lovable!
Yes she was according to Janet.
Janet and Marilyn did not get along. They had a long feud. Marilyn was the fourth daughter and Janet the fifth.
Da;ly to Francis E. Willis : "You are a credit to your sex". Ouch! That surely comes off these days as being a "t ouch" sexist. But nobody in 1957 thought so.
And a smart thinker wouldn’t think anything of it today.
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Exactly 😊
I love Ms kilgallen as a blonde
She's a redhead, naturely black hair😊
19:18
I think the first contestant guzzled half a bottle of vodka 10 minutes before she walked onstage.😆
Totally outrageous statement 😮
The Cantor solve...Cerf...again, cheating at its finest
Marilyn looks like a brunette version of mom Ida
With so many 'more than one' guests, at times, why didn't they provide enough chairs? Hmmmm....
If they brought out another chair, the panelists would know there was more than one mystery guest.
@@accomplice55 You are right! They also could have thought that they wouldn't be standing too long and could handle it. In any case it certainly was a great show. Cheers!
@@accomplice55 They could have put a larger piece of furniture for guests to sit on.
UNITED STATES AMBASSADOR TO NORWAY
MAKE BAR STOOLS
Please remove this idiots comment. Unfortunately today's awful society is full of losers intent on ruining people's pleasure on using social media. Thank you.
You should follow the rules of respect. Many of us need this reminder of who the contestants are.
What 1957 ? A us ambassador was a woman ? O thpught women were oppressed back then
Lol
Uncle Ruckus That's just propaganda by people with agenda. American women back then had more rights than women living in Saudi Arabia and Iran right now, lol.
Uncle Ruckus Troll!
@@Night-Tid3 I'm rather of the opinion that it is historical fact, asserted by anyone with the least bit of education in the subject.
19:02 John Daly's very disturbing face!🤣
All dead
Thank you so much for cheering me up!