Which Supermoto Should You Buy 701 or 500 EXC? | Pros & Cons
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
- Having owned both the Husqvarna 701 and now the KTM 500 EXC I thought I would do a video to help potential supermoto buyers decided which they should buy.
One thing I didn't mention was cost, buying new it will cost you more to build a 500 EXC supermoto than a new 701. Certainly something to consider!
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Thumbs up on the 701. The older I get, the longer and cheaper I want my service intervals to be.
True
Agreed.
What do you mean does the 500 exc need more maintenance?
@@ksr2513 Yes, the 500 exc wasn't meant for street use so they push the engine harder for racing purposes but that means that more maintinence is needed. The reason the 690/701 uses bigger engines is that they can detune them for reliability but still make good power
@@ericsson_motorsports ooow okay so if you want to ride it daily and don't want to take the engine apart every month you should take the 690/701.
Those 15 hour oil changes etc on the 500 are ONLY for when the bike is being used in pure competition, you have the same 15 hour hour intervals on a rally 690 if used in competition. For normal road/trail riding use it is nothing like it. In fact I met lots of Yanks (whilst doing the TAT on my 690) who had 10-15k miles on their 500's pistons doing 1k or even 2k oil changes when running them as SMC or Dual Sport bikes. Also on a 500 after running in it is very rare indeed to need valve adjustment either. A common misconception is that the oil capacity on the 500 is too low for continuous use. Not so, in fact the 500 at 1.5 litre has a HIGHER oil capacity per CC than the 690 at 1.7 litre and now the new 690 has almost identical BHP to CC and KTM are happy for 6k oil changes on that model. So chill out about all that high maintenance stuff, it is a myth, at least on the 500, the higher revving 350 is another matter.
More important is to keep your air filter cleaned daily if you are going off road in dusty conditions and of course always warm the engine up patiently before thrashing it. 90 per cent of engine wear is generated in the warming up cycle. It is the idiots who thrash a bike from cold (or rev the bollocks off it as it sits on the side stand instead of just letting it tick over) who wear out engines and then blame the bike!
Is the whole engine-warming thing also true for the 701
If you buy this bike and don't ride it like you stole it it's pointless 😂
Other than the oil changes and the valve clearances the service intervals are for competition use only. So if you are not bouncing it off the rev limiter or racing intervals will be longer.
unless the valves are Ti, i wouldnt even bother checking the valves but every 75hr or so
At least you've got the fuel light...the DRZ lets me know I need fuel by stopping! >_<
#SuperMotoLife
Haha really they don't have one? Ah but you have reserve don't you 😉
Really no fuel light, but yes they do have a reserve, with a gnat's whiskers worth in. I still love it tho, can't beat a SuperMoto for fun. Cheers Chops!
the truth lol. I keep an eye on my odometer, cause my crf with only go about 60mi when im ragging on it hahha. but dear god its so much fun
Yea drz only gets 55 miles per tank. Fill up every damn day smh
250 hours here, everything absolute in spec with first piston. Do your oil now and then, warm the engine normal. Valves never needed adjustment from new also...
500 over any bike for fun for sure. Done a lot of meetings and we needed to adapt to the boring 690 and 701. No off-road no stairs no this bla bla. Be crazy and stick to the 500 and drive like you stole it!
Good to hear!!
400 hrs on mine, all original, burns no oil and compression is well within spec. I check the vales and have had to adjust them once one the exhaust side and it was in spec but just. Have not had to adjust since. It runs better than a new 500 I test rode, only changes to mine is I removed the canister, exhaust end cap screen and added a bit of volts to the TPS. I had a 690 and found it was more maintenance work, if not in frequency then in complexity with extra sensors, and everything is hard to get to. The 690 motor is a beauty. As for 15 hour oil changes that's based on off road racing, banging off the rev limiter and running at max temps. Rolling around on the street isn't going to be anywhere as intensive as mud, sand and loose hill climbs so extending the interval to 25hrs wouldn't be a stretch at all. I've put 800 km on my 500 in one day of off road racing (17 hrs of ass beating - get a better seat with either bike )
The recommended services in the book is when your bike are used in competition.. Have a 450FE-18 and I am not going to change the piston @135hrs thats for sure.. I change oil 7.5h though, filter/oil 15hr..
As a fd mx rider I must say that my FE compared to the mx is constantly running in "break in" mode 😂
As I understand it if you don`t rev it high to often the valves stay within clearances longer.
Got a 2014 done 2000 miles change oil and filter regular the bike is solid can’t fault it 👍👍
Love your channel !!! For the records i had the exact same 2017 KTM 500 six days and i put 5000miles and 280 hours of pure off road use (no SM) with no valves adjustments, no piston BS ...not even a spark plug...let alone if you use it mainly Supermoto...you can even space out your oil changes. The only draw back of the 500 is long tarmac rides...it just plainly sucks there. Now i have a KTM 500 Six Days 2019 and i am doing supermoto conversion and mainly off-road (quick swap). This is the ultimate bike in my opinion.
Good to know Oli thanks for the feedback buddy 👍👍
So its fairly easy to maintain then? I want to try SM 500 because maybe the 250 is a bit small from bcoz i ride Z9 , and my biggest concerns is the service interval , where you have to check this & that , that just seem too many work , i just wanna bike that i can ride peacefully 😁
Happy New year m8! Love the danger in nearly running out of fun juice lol
Too much arsing about with the 500. 701 for me
ive just got my self a KTM 350 EXC-F after watching your videos, now bling it up
Loved the part where u ran outta fuel and such a sport you are!! You didn’t edit it during the upload 👌🏼
Hard to beat a built or track SM for riding fun. I've ran out of gas around 10 times. Tilt the bike to the side. We need indicators, mirrors and a horn in the US.
Easiest way to change the oil: unscrew the bolt on the side that allows the oil to drain , works nice because the oil filter(s) are on that side too so the oil only goes down one side of the engine and it's easier to put it all back together. It's not like a car where you have to get under it and that's the only way to do it
I’ve got the 450 model and use Motul v300 15/50 and service every 50/60 hrs and the oil could easily do 100 hours as the oil is just on the turn. I’ve done 270 hrs total and just corrected inlet clearances from the bottom limit back to middle of spec where they were new. All green lane miles.
You really stretch those service hours. I've felt brave stretching to 17hrs between oil and a filter every 2nd change.
I Havnt checked my valves yet, but I expect his went bad so quickly because of bad air filter maintenance
A supermoto engine is probably going to get a harder life than one used in an enduro bike. They do tend to get ridden and revved hard for longer periods of time. Supermoto's are for hooligans let's face it.😋
Who agrees that chops deserves more subs
Another great video, cheers! Having owned and ridden a fair few SM's I couldn't agree with your comments more. The DRZ-E that I used to own was probably the best as regards fun V hassle although the WR450 was a real hoot, top gear clutch ups off any small rise in the road! :-D The longest ride I had on the WR was about 170-180miles in a day(some of it off road on SM wheels) and it felt like I had ridden 3 times that, something like the 701 would have eaten up the road miles much better but I would take the WR for the off road sections every time.
Glad we are in agreement Jonny :-)
701 for me, lots of fun and amazing power with minimal maintenance
I had a 690 duke a few years back. No supermoto but is was a really fun bike.
Sold my 501 Husky SM for a KTM 690. No contest, 690 has everything needed to be a great street bike. The 501? It was a great dirt bike, and a fun street ride. For about 10 minutes. I am 63 - your mileage may vary.
Why buy anything for road that has to be checked every 15 hours lol. I'm not insane. I sit on my bike and make 4 hours as nothing
Supposedly one can actually go substantially longer between maintenance if riding on the road. Actually good reviews concerning this and a considerable number of people putting considerable miles on these bikes. To each their own, though.
Those recommended intervals are usually made with racing in mind, on the street a lot of people stretch out the intervals quite far
Always loved the 701 since I first saw yours but love your new 500 too, I don’t mind getting my hand dirty but that engine strip sounds like a bind, I’d have to go with a 701 I think. Great vid as always mate 😎👍
Thanks matey!! You need something like this, you know you do! Keep the RR and get a cheap Supermoto sure you will love it!
Lamb Chop Rides Your not wrong mate. Guess I’ll have to sell the bike build when it’s done or sell the RR 🤔😂
For most people the 701 would be the sensible choice for an SM. However I have yet to meet a sensible SM rider! Lets face it some of us we like having something a little different
haha yes agreed Andy :-)
Great video Chopsy! I feel the same way, I couldn't ever be without a supermoto. Love my 701!! #supermotoislife
yo lamb chop. you dont need to change oil etc like it says in manual cause your not racing or wearing out the engine in a way that need it to be changed every 5 hours. i had a 450 exc 2016 rode the hell out of it almost everyday and i only did services once a month or every other month. and not a single issue for the year i had it. because when you are on the road your not pinning all the time and hitting the revlimiter all the time so your not abusing the engine enough to where it needs a service intervall like in the manual. and i only went into the engine for valve adjustment once a year. same for all the bikes i have had on the road
I did go for a 2019 KTM 500 EXC F myself coming from a older Yamaha WR450f, I love how the 500 is lighter and more easy to drive then the WR450 with slightly more power :) Only thing I dislike is the lack of kick start as that will 100% sure one day leave me stranded alone in the mountains with a long long walk home... (pretty much impossible to roll start a big 4 stroke on gravel, I have tried....)
Rondo Cat when my battery gave up the ghost, the kickstarter still wasn't enough to save me. Unless you wire up a capacitor or your battery is just below enough juice for the e-start, the kickstarter is actually kinda useless...
@@Balomis I have not heard about this problems on bikes because they usually have magneto ignition (at least on old ones) so they start even without any charge at all, but maybe new bikes is like modern cars. On a modern car with AC dynamo you need a little current to start or else the dynamo will not work no matter how fast or long you try run start it. I have a few times run out of electricity on my old Mercedes 190E so bad that the engine stopped from lack of ignition when dynamo stopped working. But after fixing dynamo there was still a little current left in battery enough for it to magnetice the AC generator and run start successfully alone with no help.
@@a64738 Yeah as far as I know, pretty much all the fuel-injected EXC's won't start off the kicker with a completely dead battery. The battery just sucks all the juice from the kick so the injector and fuel pump never get enough. The XC's (non-road legal in Canada and some other countries) generally come equipped with a large capacitor that allows the bike to run without a battery at all. Many people mod this in, or carry a capacitor to swap in incase of emergency
Got a 125 exc a couple of months ago, hoping to get my supermoto wheels tomorrow
What you said about the 500 is only true if you use the bike in motard racing. If you use the motorbike in a quiet way you can reach hundreds of hours without problems. I have a 450exc and in my opinion it is one of the best supermotos
You, TheMissendenFlyer and Snowcat are a bad influence 😂
Took delivery of my 701sm on Friday. Can't wait to start using it 👍
Enjoy it!!
You shouldn’t make the service as often. My KTM mechanic rides a 450 EXC converted to SM for more than 5 years. He said the service intervals recommended in the owners manual are for competition/racing use. If you use it on the street, you can do the oil service every 2000 miles. Same goes for all the other checks.
Check valves when it's hard to start, Only tear into the engine when it starts to smoke
Has your views changed at all? I’m 60/40 leaning more towards the 500 cause I think they look better but maybe the 701 makes more practical sense.
Mine was out of spec too on the loose side (bought with 20 hrs on it). My opinion is that they come out like that to avoid issues if you're not checking the valves so often and are supposed to be re-shimmed after the very 1st hour anyway. After 100hrs the clearance was still ok...
Ah good to know!
I ride alot and im not planning to sell my bike . But i also dont want i to blow up after 4seasons nor do i want a heavy 701 /690
--> i bought a 690engine and a rmz 250 sumo and just swapped the engine
I thought of that earlier.. just try and bolt 690 motor in!! Ok will add 10kg but still light and with more torque!! Hmmm
Lamb Chop Rides when im done with the project i can send you a link to my video - It will be 100% street legal and be as powerfull as a cr 500 but without drinking 13 liters
Yes please do!!
@@lobotomyy Do you have Instagram where we can follow the build?
Linus B. Just subscribe to me on this account - ill be posting vids there
I love everything about the 500 except the servicing. Shame they didn't detune the engine a little for street use. Admittedly I do prefer the look and easy maintenance of the 701 but the extra 40kg of weight is hard to overlook.
Yup that's the issue.. go 690 / 701 much better, the extra weight doesn't make that much of a difference if your road riding
@@LambChopRides I keep my bike indoors. I liked the idea of having something that was 105kg that I could just pick up and turn around. I have a 170kg MT-07 at the moment so the 701 wouldn't be much different in terms of weight and power so not much point changing to be honest.
Think id have Husqvarna 701 :)
if i want a supermoto, i will get the 500. if i want a sporttourer-wannabe-supermoto-tank i would choose the 690/701...
I ride to have fun, Keep my uncorked to the max 450EXC every time over a 701 or 690
If your not racing, maintenance is no big deal. 450 and 500 are hands down more fun,
But hell,,,, to each his own
I will go for the 500 exc. Thst extra work I can do myself and the 40 kg less sounds great.
Is a 450 exc (exept the bore and stroke) the same bike ? Or is the 450 lighter ?
Love your video's, keep it up.
The 450 is an enduro, the 500 is a dual sport
The 450 is gonna be slightly more powerful and quicker, but it has a smaller gas tank iirc
Happy New Year Chops, all the best for 2019!
Thanks Ewan!!
Thanks.Always informative with a bit of humour thrown in for nothing.
i dont have the maintenance chops for a 500 yet... just got a dr400sm stolen... waiting for insurance payout then ima go for a 701 sm & hit it with a full exhaust system replacement and the rottweiler intake system with the power commander as well as an auxilary gas tank and turn it into a hella lightweight version of the ktm990smt
What I quickly discovered with my 17 excf 450 was your pretty much screwed if the fuel light comes on.
Ive got both easiest way to do things because there both such good bikes
Don’t overthink it. 500 for track duty (might aswell get an fs450) and 690/701 for street
Is ktm exc 450 a good bike, if i just want to use it for work and school?
LCR - what's your thoughts on the following? I'm thinking of getting a 450 SUPERMOTO over a 690/701. im only 5 miles from work and would only commute on it when its dry (which in surrey isn't often). i'm 70kg and 5'7 so the lighter bike was appealing to me. is a 10 miles round trip short enough if you don't mind the maintenance? or as it will only ever be a road bike...would you say the 690/701 would be a better choice?
Are the 501s good ?
Running out of fuel all the time reminds me of my Husky 511sm. I only got 40 miles per tank full 😳
holy shit. My crf will even last 60mi
LMAOOO
Loved my 690 SMCR 👌🏼 Such a blast and maintenance wise you could ride for ages and not worry too much for many miles 😁
On a side note, I can't believe how much the 2019 model is going to cost, £9600!!! Thats big money for such a bike, which isn't majorly different/better than the previous model/701😲
Yes think KTM have priced that all wrong TBH...
Last time the 690E/SMCR were for sale they were just short of £8k I think, so £9600 is a 20% increase but consider that the £ has dropped in value against the € by 19% since 2016 and the huge price increase is understandable.
I suppose that's partly true, but £9600 is mental money for an SM when the 2018 model is so much less price wise, but not much less bike. As cool as it looks, think what else is available around the 9-10k mark 😁
@@Chris71920 and the 790 is cheaper!
@@Chris71920 2019 smc-r models have quickshifter,cornering ABS,and i think traction control.The price increase is quite understandable
I have a 2017 crf250L right now and I’ll be trading it in here soon on the 500excf. Just need something that has some power the 250L is just a slug
I went a different route and bought an XR650R with supermoto wheels and big brakes. 701 is a nice looking bike though.
Yeah I commute on my bike so the enduro bike maintenance intervals are just not realistic for me. I went with the DR-Z400 though.
Great video chops happy new year. Am tempted by 690 ktm
Is buying both an option? 😉
yes.
701 is better. Have fun with the service intervals.. 701 can do everything, so much better.
Very good video yet again . Thanks danny
Thanks Danny
Love that bike however the work its needs scares me!
They wouldn't have a valve check if the top end was hydraulic.
SM and motox single cylinder 4 stroke engines are about 50 yrs behind every other engine and manufacture.
hi mate i just got my first supermoto hope you are well
I have the 2018 KTM 690 enduro r and I'm quite happy with it. Going to put on a new slip on exhaust, rottweiler intake, and have the ECU flashed on a dino this year. Just to get a few more beans out of it
there is no such thing as 2018 690. or do u mean the 2019 model?
@@airdoctor1251 Nope it's a 2018 KTM 690 Enduro R.
KTM's 2018 690 Enduro R was built with the serious off-road enthusiast in mind. Built in Austria but ridden the world over, the 690 Enduro R was designed to be taken straight off the showroom floor and ridden away from the truck and into the elements - a 3.2-gallon tank provides fuel for the journey.
Just an excerpt from an internet article
I've the 500 and struggling to find any gearing information and what size sprockets is best to use ?
Do forget you had the old spec 701 the new one is very different with regards to vibes and top end power.
Yes good point, I have tried the new 690 Duke with the same engine and was impressed! Its has a fair bit more power and is so smooth!
Iwe had both bikes. Had a 701 -17 PC5 / filter / akra. Now i have a 500 sixdays -19 whit fmf.
And there is no way they are eaven close in power !! 500 no clutch wheelies on gear 1-5 whit out trying.. and top speed of 170 kmh on a 40 sprooket.
The older 701 had more low end then the new one btw but new one got more top end.
And btw u are running on the map switch nr 1 the entire video :) try nr2 its the race map :D
@@Sinzzan you can do a wheelie on all 5 gears without needing the clutch?😳 wow, is that without mods?
Why would you even get the exc 500 if your just planning on using it on the road? It is way more hassle maintenance wise and is probably less reliable than the 701 or 690. I think you made a huge mistake, unless you are planning on doing competition racing which is what the 500 exc is meant for.
the rides you do, you could double that 15hrs for sure, ive always had the 500 and service every 25ish hrs, valves never needed attention apart from the very first time, i rode the 690 but decided it was way to heavy for what i do.....still a great bike, just not for me....
Does anyone just not consider that the 690 and 701 have huge issues with the slave cylinder and the quick shifter doesn’t work? The list goes on and they are discontinuing both bikes this year because of how many issues there are but the key points here are the weight difference the intervals aren’t really that big of an issue is your looking for a more nimble feel and enjoy Bering a hooligan I’m pretty sure the 500 is the clear choice
Slave cylinder issues are fixed there was a recall. Yes QS is a bit rubbish.. didn't know they were being discontinued next year, you sure?
@@LambChopRides positive pretty sure they are redesigning
i got a husqvarna 510, and i could buy two of them for the price of 701 which is the main reason i got one over it. also cuz i couldnt afford the 701, its 10k, same price as a superbike.
Looks like a hoot, for sure. If I had nothing to do but ride & wrench and the money for parts something like this would be grand. Although I lusted after the 701 I ended up being an old geezer and buying a hold over KLR, ride check gas & oil/ repeat.
Good morning. What gearing you running bud ? I just got my conversion done on my 2022
Only oil and air filter they go 3 to 4 hundred hours plus not a problem
My supermoto wheels are ordered for my 500
I got a 69 plate 690 and already thinking of chopping it in for next years 500exc six days italy for that 40kg less weight and more aftermarket parts
Still killing it with my 08 690smc and 990 smr
Nice 1 chop... ran out of fuel on me klx300r last time out testing how many miles on reserve.. 12 as it happens . Yards pushing up hill before downhill to garage😂
Great video mate
Oops, that was close with the fuel! :D
I loved my Husqvarna SM510R, great fun bike, shame you can't get them anymore as would love another! :-)
Its a bike I would love to test ride.. Everyone who's had one says its great! Same with the Nuda
The Nuda is a bike I want to like, but can't quite in the flesh, not sure why???
@@HippoDrones You can get the SMR510 brand new. SWM was manufacturing them again in even the same factory as husky back then. They are called SWM SM500R (2016-2017).
Everything is husky except for the gearbox (new one is better) and new plastics. But original Husky plastics bolt right on.
The 2018 models is unfortunately quite different with abs and other shit.
I have a 2016 one, check my Instagram: @li_nuz
Aye, I checked them out up at the NEC a couple of years back. I think they were in a lower state of tune than the Husky SM510R, although I am sure it would be simple enough to release those ponies! :-)
@@HippoDrones It's like literally the same engine. Even same part numbers. It comes stock with 27hp because of emissions, but you just have to flash the unrestricted mapping and it has ~56hp.
I have it unrestricted with race map and o2 delete. Absolut fun machine on the streets👌🏻
Does this has a key to lock or anyone can jump on it and leave when you go inside the petrol station to pay??
When Will you get a new 500???
Nice bike 👍 I have a 2018 crf450rx supermoto service around 5-10hrs
With valve clearances wouldn't the upper end of spec be exactly what you want if you aren't racing it? It would stay in spec alot longer, I only ever change if its right on the tighter end of spec.
Happy New Year. Can you please review the DR650?
This video helped so much! Think im copping the 701 because of everything you have to do with the KTM. Plus i can decent wheelies with MT 125.
in my experience with a husky501 as long as you keep on top of your oil changes and also change or clean all the filters OIL/AIR/FUEL then you should rarely encounter any problems or parts moving out of spec. But you will still have to replace and readjust parts more often than most road bikes, but no where near as much as the bike manual says.
The 701 is the same price!! Definitely go 701 !! Its faster eith a Rottweiler setup, i will die with my 701 !!!
Hi Chops..........happy new year, think i'll stick to my SDR thanks.....😆😆😆👍👍👍
No choice from my standpoint. It's not going to be my only bike but no way am I buying something that needs servicing every five minutes.
You do not have to check the valves every 30 hours. Thats crazy talk sir.
No way I would go for the 500, I would spend more time on the spanners than on the bike
The intervals specified by KTM is for hard competition riding full throttle... For more normal riding it is overkill.
Are 300 2t the same as the 500 with oil changes and service?
get the big oily clutch cover and up you oil live.
I owned a 701, great bike, but, there's a but! Mine was nicked, my buddy's was nicked too. The problem is they are way too easy to start without a key. For me, it's unforgivable for the price that they do not fit an immobiliser. So I did not replace my stolen one. On that basis, due to the lack of the security fitted as standar on the road bikes, you may as well go whole hog and get the competition bike. Maybe convert a 450 Husky SM for road use? What about a used 511?
Yeah they are ripe for being nicked, sorry yours went :-( The 450 husky is great, but you would have to road register it which is tricky and expensive.. .and it has a 16.5" front wheel so road tyres are tricky to find in that size.. Never tried the 511, really want too!!!
i would honestly go japanese 450 , husky 450sm is just too competitive.
The Enduro bikes like the 500 EXC F do not have an at all :) What I do when it is not parked inside garage is use a thick hardened bike chain trough the frame and attach it to something ecually solid so anyone stealing it will have to work on it and I also had a disk lock with motion detection alarm.
Enduro bike with road tyres and those service intervals . You'll be putting knobblies on ya gsxr next . Horses for courses
How much more does the 500 cost once the conversion has been done, compared to a standard 701?
It depends on the spec you want of course, wheels start at about £500 quid, you can just space the caliper and get a larger disk to improve the brakes rather than a whole new setup. End of the day price would be similar between the two unless you go high end on the SM build
How many kilometers on a full tank of fuel ?
I had in play to buy a 500 exc as a student, but after what you said with 200h of use you have to tair the bike down, sound kind of annoying and i dont have that much free time
So i wanted to thank you for your thoughts on both of these bikes that i got on my mind
The 200 hours is if you run it hard doing competitions... With more normal riding you can stretch the intervals.
I bought a second hand 500 with just over 400 hours. Original everything.
Now I just put a new piston and refreshed the top end because it was burning a lot of oil, but the piston actually looked great. The valve train needed the most work but for $500 to have another 400+ hours is worth it to me!
701 for me
Handy vid. Thank you.
Good review 👍 👍.
May I ask a Question pls ?
To -Lamb chop Rides. Thankyou ,
I really wonder and ask my self
Why Husqvarna or KTM motorcyle factories cannot make lighter Supermoto for legal street use ,
Like FS 450 which is 105 kg but not only track use and aloot of maintanence , evry time you use ,
Why they cannot do
( same long maintanence like 7.000 km 10.000 km oil change and regular service thats it as 701/ 690 has ) ..
Why these big motorcyle brand companies - factories cannot make a bike like , many riders,
We want FS 450 105 kg light to have more fun on road for street legal use and normal maintanence like all other usual bikes , ??
Why they cannot do this ?
It can be also not that light 105 kg for track use ıt can
maybe 115 kg 120 kg with signals and headlights plates etc,,,
Why they cannot do this ??
So we can have more fun with lighter kg's and normal maintanence ,?
Why they cannot produce a bike like this ??
Thankyou ,,
500 all day
That is a 2 stroke correct?
20% more fun, except when you have perpetual range anxiety from running out of fuel lol
haha very true :-)
My 2019 KTM 500 EXC F does about 0.55 Liter per 10 km of riding giving it a range of about 160 KM (100 miles). Driving that far on a bike like that is tiresome because of the vibrations and also because of the hard seat.
hi man whats up want kind of supermoto would you recomnd me i just dont like to have sny issues i owned yamaha from a raptor 250 toa yfz450 and a raptor 700 now i want to get a supermoto i would like one that i dont have to mess to much with the issues luke my yamahas thanks in advance dude