I watched an older interview with him and he came off like a genuinely good guy. You can tell he's passionate about the sport and even more passionate about his fighters. A lot of coaches could learn a thing or 2 from him.
@@madgavin7568 he definitely got injured in the camp and decided not to tell everyone outside his camp. he was actually a good fighter then I started to wonder how come he is still not on the top.
@@madgavin7568 His wins over Woodley and Maia were sick. He's one of the most underrated MMA fighters of all time imo, along with Kenny Florian. I remember people thinking he was going to beat Chael when they fought.
For real. The coach is there to help and encourage them, but the fighter is in charge and if they want to get out, don't try to keep them in. There is far too much risk involved to try to push them to fight. Once they've checked out mentally, they're not likely to win anyway.
Care and duty take many forms. Part of the coach/support team's job is also to push the fighter through moments of adversity. A guy struggling might just need to be told to get his ass into gear and get up (look at Pereira and Leon Edward's coaches, for example). Possibly Tito is seeing his guy, on the verge of winning a fight, on the verge of advancing his career, about to quit and doesn't want him to miss his opportunity. All the fighter can feel is the immediate pain, but Tito is possibly looking out for his future. Whitman isn't wrong, either, it's just situationally different and he probably has a better insight into Marquadt's frame of mind.
I know you guys love to clown on tito however from everyone who was in that season and was interviewed, the guy was always there and always really helpful as a coach on TUF
@@YakubTheScientist8841 nobody who steps into the octagon and signs up to fight and get punched in the face is a "weakling". You try fighting a professional fighter for 3 rounds and see how it ends up.
@@Nicxon_02 My Muay Thai coach is an amateur MMA fighter with 2 fights and whenever we get in the octagon he completely demolishes me, I can't even imagine what it would be like to fight even the worst UFC fighter
@@Nicxon_02 anybody can sign up, clearly these guys didnt want to fight because theyre weaklings, even beetlejuice actually finished his bouts, you're probably defending them because seeing weak failures noramalized makes you feel better about yourself
It's way smarter to quit than to get permanent brain damage or something broken. People hate it but it's not them fighting in there. Also guys get discouraged by the pressure and anxiety maybe. If you just imagine yourself doing it you understand quickly that it's one of the scariest hardest and bravest things you can do.
@@mikec5400 Hahaha what kind of logic is that? So if someone was like "hey don't armbar me please I already have a cast" would you be like "it's already broken"? If it's bad don't make it worse.
Khabib would say otherwise. "Who care you tired, go home", "why you come to fight if you're only gonna quit? Stay home". Wouldn't say i personally agree, shows how insane some of these guys are, and if you're not as insane as they are you better just train until you become so good you overcome the fear, because most of these guys don't know fear.
@@ruslanshavkatov466 you got all of that from him stating a fact? Lmao. They have some extent of brain trauma. Football players do and they're not punching each other with no helmet.
Huge props to Trevor Wittman for calling it, unlike the coach right before him that was trying to get his fighter killed. That's the kind of coach you want in your corner, one who's looking out for your best interest, not trying to get you back in an unwinnable fight for his own gain.
@@stevencoardveniceThat fighter got fired from the UFC after that. The trainer probably knew he would and wanted him to push through it so he'd have a career in what he's spent his life getting to. You can't call it disgusting, there's so much riding on a fight for these guys
@@razzprince2877 HE DOESN'T IT WANT IT BRO. he was done. It's not worth it. Not worth the 20 bucks that uncle dana pays these guys. Brain damage. Dude can get another career
The part people need to know about the BJ PENN vs GSP fight was BJ talked so much shit leading up to fight about "I'm a Hawaiian warrior that won't stop, I'll die in the cage" "George is a quitter, he doesn't have the heart I do" ect... then when it came down to it, he got brutalized and 100% QUIT himself, he didn't go out on his shield, and was never the same again.
BJ Penn is what would've happened to Jon Jones is he wasn't sociopathic enough and didn't abuse steroids 😂 It's really such a shame cause he would've been GSP's greatest rival and not Matt Hughes or Hendricks I respect Matt but I don't see him in any top 20 greatest anywhere but BJ is understandably in there cause his legacy is like Mike Tyson's but without the discipline
It sucks that there's such a stigma about this, I know it can be a buzzkill at times but we've seen many cases of fighters taking rounds of unnecessary damage when they're already beaten (Tony vs Gaethje comes to mind), and that can compromise the rest of their career. It's a grey area to be sure because we dont want fighters just throwing in the towel any time things get tough, but when it's a legitimate time to do it people shouldn't call them a coward for it.
Absolutely. Magney VS Garry in 292 was like that. Magney refused to quit, but he took So. Much. Damage only because of all the smack talk before the fight. Now he's going to be recovering for months, all for a fight he wasn't even supposed to be in to begin with.
It's a very stupid stigma. Boxers quit all the time because their corners understand how detrimental excessive damage can be on a career. Case and point: Tony Ferguson post-Gaethje mauling.
Trevor Whittman is the coach everyone needs. He makes a real impact on their training, tries to understand his fighters deeply and actually seems to care about their well being.
@@s6748-z5jI mean he is the coach at the end of the day the blame does lie only with him and Rose, but that must be a very hard dynamic to try and step in between diplomatically. The grooming ex fighter who wants so bad to be head coach and in the limelight.
This was pretty interesting to see. It’s typically either 1 of 2 scenarios - either a young fighter realizes the path is not for him, or an old fighter realizes his path has come to an end. Or just an injury lol
@@jeffreylee5607 a bit rarer in mma than boxing for the mental to actually be enough. A lot of people understand it takes just one of anything, a punch, a kick, a takedown. They try to hang in to make their loss look more honorable and that they have a slim chance of just somehow winning.
It also seemed like on two occasions there were guys who were totally physically spent. Especially in the case of BJ Penn, who went on fighting long after that St. Pierre fight. He just took all he had to give to make it thru that fourth round.
@@chungusamongus519 Yeah I think more often than not fighters, instead of quitting on the stool, will continue on with no drive, essentially silently submitting and waiting for thr fight to be stopped.
glad i'm not the only one who noticed. it's crazy how he let the guy just get pummeled.....it's better to stop a fight a bit too early than a bit too late.
Sometimes you just have to admit you're done, no point taking unnecessary damage.Nothing but respect for anyone willing to go out and give it their all
Respect to any of these men that “quit” on the stool. They push their bodies to the physical limit and don’t need extra necessary damage if they’re being out classes.
These are sad but honestly I have a lot of respect for these guys for the most part. It's not easy to go out on your shield, but it's also not easy to admit you've been bested and don't have a shot. I have no doubt that these guys only gave up because they felt they had absolutely nothing left to give. But they emptied the tank first and that's commendable, no shame in my eyes.
Seeing Chris Leben quit on the stool was very shocking because he very much embodied the 'never say die' fighter. But him quitting on the stool (no shame in that) was evident he didn't want to do this anymore, and true to his word it would also be his last MMA fight.
There is no shame in quitting on the stool but by quitting on the stool, you leave something behind mentally. Notice how EVERY single fighter in this video never looked the same after quitting? People need to understand the consequence of quitting as well because it could end careers. For someone like Leben and Nate, they were already at the end of their career so it was w/e but for someone like Max in the video who was young, it ended his career. It is not as easy as "live to fight another day," it is more like "live and may never fight another day." It is a choice the fighter themselves need to decide because for most, it is the fork in the road.
Classic Herb dean there at the end. Letting the fight go as the fighter gets pummeled with no defense. Also kudos to Trevor man. Everytime I see that clip of him immediately calling it off as soon as the fighter said he's done, he calls it off immediately with no thoughts. You can try to encourage your fighter but should also know when to do that.
I remember the Leben fight all to well. He was one of my favorites at the time and saying that he was at the end of his career was an understatement. He got hit by a flying knee like 2 seconds into that fight and i was already suprised he made it to the end of that round. Thank god he understood his limits at that moment and called it, because Hall was going to sleep him BAD
Sometimes the other fighter is just better or you have nothing left. Especially if you break something. Plus these are professionals too. No need to just keep getting hit on . Much respect to all fighters. Was fun to watch. Great video
The comment I was looking for, what the fuck kind of coach says that too there fighter? That guy is probably gonna end up regretting it yes but it’s better than ending up with brain damage, + Tito’s his coach and that’s fairly cold blooded to say when your fighter is clearly going through it. Don’t know what I was expecting tho, just another common Tito L
Man...this is the most impact video I have ever seen...Congrats to all fighters and warriors that have entried in the octagon. You all deserve our respect!!!
I don't see it as 'quitting on the stool' .Deciding to stop fighting isn't shameful. Everyone has limits. You don't have to fight more than you possibly can just to impress the people watching.
@@jasv49 Absolutely not. Quitting is a strong word and it shouldn't be used lightly. People tend to judge harshly those who understand that in the moment they didn't have anything more left to fight and call it there. I respect every fighter that gets in the cage and fights putting his health on the line.
@@thedarkcriminal1658 one literally said he quit. If they quit they quit man nothing shameful and my respect for these guys doesn't diminish at all but quiting is quiting bro.
Sakuraba is a legend for just how he finished Royce. The dude was all heart. He would fight in open weight tournaments and lose brutally or win spectacularly. He would have been a pretty badass welterweight or maybe even lightweight, which I think they both didn't have in Pride. I am not sure especially because I don't remember if their weight classifications allign with the UFCs. Whatever, the dude would drink and smoke and was still able to gas out a Gracie and looked like he could still go a couple of rounds. Crazy mofo.
@kenshiman90 he is probably my favorite fighter. the guy was insane. he went all out. he lost fights that he shouldn't have taken to begin with, but he was always dangerous, even when he was clearly disadvantaged. he drank and smoked like it's part of a healthy diet. it doesn't make sense that he was as good as he was. Legend, and he deserves way more respect than he is getting.
Yeah but that style made his body a mess. Like literally needs a full body transplant to live a normal life. Is it worth it? I love Sakuraba, as much as any fight fan but he's only 54 right now, been retired 9 years. His health problems are as legendary as his fights.
@@sabin97 i believe you're coping with your own mental weakness by pretending that quitting is something that actual warriors do and its nothing to be ashamed of, when in fact, it is extremely shameful
@@YakubTheScientist8841 what makes you think i'm somehow mentally weak? that's not a rhetorical question. "that quitting is something that actual warriors do" because it is. duran did it. cotto did it. tito's father did it for him. and many others have done it. it's silly to die in the ring, or have permanent injuries. "it is extremely shameful" what do you find shameful about not dying in the ring? again, not a rhetorical question.
@@oldironsides4107 I know mate but he's lost a weapon and a one side of his defence. If the fight went on he wasn't going to do anything but take damage. He ain't out wrestling and grappling Tony
I quit on the stool in my first fight, I was really young and fought this really rangey power striker and literally every shot he hit me with snapped my head back, rocked me bad and I remember blocking a head kick but it was so powerful it pushed me back a meter into the cage. I remember telling my coaches I'm done and they did a little convincing but once 10sec warning came in my coach said to the ref that he was stopping it, he told me afterwards that he was gonna stop it as soon as I said I was done but wanted to atleast give me the full minute to make sure I wasn't gonna regret that decision. I did for a while but honestly I trust my gut so if that's how I felt at the time that was right. (The opponents now 7-1 with 6ko and a couple belts, actually had a beer with the bloke at a fight show last night)
There was an incident in TUF where the fighter wanted to quit, but the corner convinced him to continue... he went on to win that fight. Cant remember the name nor what season it was though.
This does not undermine any fighter who throws in the towel. What if any of these guys suffered permanent damage because they were pressured to continue? They made the judgment call and called it quits, so we do not know.
@@durah1559 Its obvious you have missunderstood. Nowhere have I stated anything about going against ones will and keep on fighting when he doesnt want to fight. I have simply stated a fact that I did see happen, on the ultimate fighter where a ... I belive a veteran(?) was very tired , he had taken damage after the first out of two rounds, but corner encouraged him to go back in there because they did see his opponent was tired too. The fighter went back in there, did his best and manage to submit (?) his opponent. He got extremly happy, got in to the house. Urge you to actually try to read what people writing and not read what you think they are writing. As of now you fighting arguments that noone put forth. I very much support early stoppage, good referees that knows what they are doing and long rest periods after one gets knocked out or is in a brawl where they take lots of punches to the head... So again please, read and try to understand what people say and dont jump to conclusions.
I hate when coaches don't grant their fighters their wish of stopping the fight. He's battered and doesn't want to fight don't force him to damage himself
Mad respect for the fighters and coaches that know their limit and when to call it. I enjoy watching MMA, but no one wants to see someone just taking a beating when they have nothing left and are just cooked. It is always hard for me to watch when you see a fighter just done and the fight keeps going.
Big respect to anyone who went out there and realized and accepted that they were not going to win. I respect those dudes more than the guys who didn’t know when to quit and are now busted up and slurring their words later in life. Health is wealth and the older you get, the more you realize the choices you made when you were younger absolutely have a long lasting impact and you regret those choices that messed with your health.
MMA is a sport. I respect these guys so much to be willing to accept defeat rather than throw themselves into a situation where they are unable to defend themselves just to save ego.
Honestly these guys should be applauded for knowing when to stop. And the coaches that don't hesitate to agree should be too. These guys risk so much and there's no reason to risk it if they don't have anything left
@@shahriarkabir6924 it 100% applies, they liked bullying and stealing everything from africa, but they are a laughing stoke to the rest of the world, especially the anglo-saxon community
That Penn fight was weird. Never seen something like that from BJ the guy was just a true warrior. That said, he had it coming he was so over confident, and GSP was peak powers. I never knew Marquardt had quit! Inwas a huge fan of his, and he brutalized a lot of guys. Such a talent.
For those criticising Tito must've not known he was speaking from experience, he tapped to punches previously to Frank Shamrock and it lived in his mind constantly, when he told that guy he needed to continue or he was gonna hate himself forever he was trying to keep the guy from making the same mistake he did especially since Chuck that whole season was bringing up Tito tapping to punches
Nate: I have nothing left Trevor: Okay. It's over. other coaches. Fighter: I'll die if I go back out there. I can't defend myself. Coach: You got this baby, let's go!!!
Trevor Wittman is such a G, you can always feel the connection he has with his fighters.
I watched an older interview with him and he came off like a genuinely good guy. You can tell he's passionate about the sport and even more passionate about his fighters. A lot of coaches could learn a thing or 2 from him.
if coaches could go down in the hall of fame he should be the first one entered.
Yeah that fighter didnt quit. But his coach saved him from a beating that an sometimes change a fighter.
@@will224488guy "I have nothing left" isn't quitting?
@@JohnDoe-gv4fb Pay attention as theyre trying to stop it he's saying no but Wittman knows better
Nate Marquardt saying “I have nothing left” is heartbreaking.
Shame how far Nate fell because he was so talented at one point.
@@madgavin7568 he definitely got injured in the camp and decided not to tell everyone outside his camp. he was actually a good fighter then I started to wonder how come he is still not on the top.
@@eetfuk3571 Apparently he spent more time reading the bible than training in the gym.
@@madgavin7568 His wins over Woodley and Maia were sick. He's one of the most underrated MMA fighters of all time imo, along with Kenny Florian. I remember people thinking he was going to beat Chael when they fought.
I remember him putting together this crazy combinations of punches and kicks…. I wish I could remember who it was against so I could Re-watch it!
Gsp punching the cage after he didn’t get to finish bj on the ground is iconic af
Vaseline
@@jtkrpm1 lol
@@saidesimon3144 , not sure what's funny about cheating in such a dangerous sport but ok.
@@earlmcmanus194 believing a nonsense controversy is funny. Do you count on Santa coming for Christmas?
@@nk-dw2hm wait....Santa AIN'T coming???
Despite quitting on the stool, all these guys are warriors. There’s no denying that
Absolutely. Takes balls to get in that cage
IDK the first dude was kind of a bitch...
People don't understand how much skill and dedication it takes to be even a middling competitor in a sport.
100% They still have my respect for life
I hate when MMA fans call pro fighters bums like bruh you wouldn't do half of what these guys do 😂
Coaches that will immediately throw in the towel at the request of their fighters really deserve more appreciation.
For real. The coach is there to help and encourage them, but the fighter is in charge and if they want to get out, don't try to keep them in. There is far too much risk involved to try to push them to fight. Once they've checked out mentally, they're not likely to win anyway.
The contrast between Whitman’s decision to look out for his fighter and Tito screaming “SAY YES!! SAYY YESS!!” is nuts 😂
Care and duty take many forms. Part of the coach/support team's job is also to push the fighter through moments of adversity. A guy struggling might just need to be told to get his ass into gear and get up (look at Pereira and Leon Edward's coaches, for example). Possibly Tito is seeing his guy, on the verge of winning a fight, on the verge of advancing his career, about to quit and doesn't want him to miss his opportunity. All the fighter can feel is the immediate pain, but Tito is possibly looking out for his future. Whitman isn't wrong, either, it's just situationally different and he probably has a better insight into Marquadt's frame of mind.
They were both the right things to do for the situation.
I know you guys love to clown on tito however from everyone who was in that season and was interviewed, the guy was always there and always really helpful as a coach on TUF
The difference is that Nate was a seasoned veteran and Tito's fighter was inexperienced who wasn't injured but just not used to adversity.
in fairness whitman's guy was cutting crushed whereas tito's guy won one and lost one
Glad Trevor Whitman did that for Nate and didn’t hesitate to do so.
Weaklings
@@YakubTheScientist8841 nobody who steps into the octagon and signs up to fight and get punched in the face is a "weakling". You try fighting a professional fighter for 3 rounds and see how it ends up.
@@Nicxon_02 My Muay Thai coach is an amateur MMA fighter with 2 fights and whenever we get in the octagon he completely demolishes me, I can't even imagine what it would be like to fight even the worst UFC fighter
@@BuckyBoBo cm punk?
@@Nicxon_02 anybody can sign up, clearly these guys didnt want to fight because theyre weaklings, even beetlejuice actually finished his bouts, you're probably defending them because seeing weak failures noramalized makes you feel better about yourself
It's way smarter to quit than to get permanent brain damage or something broken. People hate it but it's not them fighting in there. Also guys get discouraged by the pressure and anxiety maybe. If you just imagine yourself doing it you understand quickly that it's one of the scariest hardest and bravest things you can do.
these guys already have brain trauma well before any of these corners stopped the fight
@@mikec5400
Hahaha what kind of logic is that? So if someone was like "hey don't armbar me please I already have a cast" would you be like "it's already broken"? If it's bad don't make it worse.
@@mikec5400 You clearly don't know anything about fighting
Khabib would say otherwise. "Who care you tired, go home", "why you come to fight if you're only gonna quit? Stay home". Wouldn't say i personally agree, shows how insane some of these guys are, and if you're not as insane as they are you better just train until you become so good you overcome the fear, because most of these guys don't know fear.
@@ruslanshavkatov466 you got all of that from him stating a fact? Lmao. They have some extent of brain trauma. Football players do and they're not punching each other with no helmet.
Huge props to Trevor Wittman for calling it, unlike the coach right before him that was trying to get his fighter killed. That's the kind of coach you want in your corner, one who's looking out for your best interest, not trying to get you back in an unwinnable fight for his own gain.
That was disgusting
@@stevencoardveniceThat fighter got fired from the UFC after that. The trainer probably knew he would and wanted him to push through it so he'd have a career in what he's spent his life getting to. You can't call it disgusting, there's so much riding on a fight for these guys
@@razzprince2877 HE DOESN'T IT WANT IT BRO. he was done. It's not worth it. Not worth the 20 bucks that uncle dana pays these guys. Brain damage. Dude can get another career
Also the way Trevor stays with nate while the other coaches leave their fighter speaks volumes
@stevencoardvenice
Max ropkoff quit because he was tired. That’s a lame excuse in any occupation
Trevor Whitman man, cant say ive ever been more impressed with a coach. What a legend.
The part people need to know about the BJ PENN vs GSP fight was BJ talked so much shit leading up to fight about "I'm a Hawaiian warrior that won't stop, I'll die in the cage" "George is a quitter, he doesn't have the heart I do" ect... then when it came down to it, he got brutalized and 100% QUIT himself, he didn't go out on his shield, and was never the same again.
The more I know about BJ Penn, the lesser I think of him.
BJ Penn is what would've happened to Jon Jones is he wasn't sociopathic enough and didn't abuse steroids 😂
It's really such a shame cause he would've been GSP's greatest rival and not Matt Hughes or Hendricks
I respect Matt but I don't see him in any top 20 greatest anywhere but BJ is understandably in there cause his legacy is like Mike Tyson's but without the discipline
This is because GSP hired a man dressed as a woman to kiss BJ during his walk-out. Mind games
well his corner stopped it, not him.
@@carlnickson7353 only after talking and asking him, where he refused to respond... he quit.
What was Dean doing with that Dolloway stoppage? Best referee lmaooo
All my hommies know that Herb Dean fault
@@tsurutajumbo more like tin
dont understand how ppl can say hes the best with a straight face
herzog is waay better
Herb Dean is not a good ref. He has a lot of awful spoppages.
@@madaxwayne They all mess up but Herb Dean is consistently making terrible late stoppages. I feel like he is actually one of the worst refs
It sucks that there's such a stigma about this, I know it can be a buzzkill at times but we've seen many cases of fighters taking rounds of unnecessary damage when they're already beaten (Tony vs Gaethje comes to mind), and that can compromise the rest of their career. It's a grey area to be sure because we dont want fighters just throwing in the towel any time things get tough, but when it's a legitimate time to do it people shouldn't call them a coward for it.
Pettis quitting because his hand broke is legitimate. The max roxpof guy or whatever his name is quit like a scrub and deserves to be cut
Absolutely. Magney VS Garry in 292 was like that. Magney refused to quit, but he took So. Much. Damage only because of all the smack talk before the fight. Now he's going to be recovering for months, all for a fight he wasn't even supposed to be in to begin with.
It's a very stupid stigma. Boxers quit all the time because their corners understand how detrimental excessive damage can be on a career. Case and point: Tony Ferguson post-Gaethje mauling.
It’s essentially the same result regardless. Being saved by the bell doesn’t necessarily mean you can fight another round.
I cant rewatch that fight, freakin hurts
Trevor Whittman is the coach everyone needs. He makes a real impact on their training, tries to understand his fighters deeply and actually seems to care about their well being.
Herb thought he was watching TV at 4:40
The guy was covering up and had already assumed the 'recovery position ', so difficult call
@@davepowell7168 you usually hold /cover your head when ur getting the fuckin Beating of ur life CTE here we go!
@@davepowell7168what's your point? He isn't trying to advance his position, it isn't intelligent defence. It's a TKO.
@@davepowell7168 he was literally shielding his eyes the whole time, how is that intelligent defence if you arent even looking at any point.
Pretty sure he let them keep fighting because of the time on the clock and he was covering. If those were direct shots I think he would've called it.
Didn't think it was possible but the respect for Whittman continues to rise
yeah, the only thing i dont know is whether he is to blame for what happened to Namajunas
@@s6748-z5j nah that was pat berry
Trevor was telling her to engage more.
@@s6748-z5jI mean he is the coach at the end of the day the blame does lie only with him and Rose, but that must be a very hard dynamic to try and step in between diplomatically. The grooming ex fighter who wants so bad to be head coach and in the limelight.
he just sat there and let rose lose her title cuz he didnt wanna step on Pats toes when hes the head coach.
shittman fraud
4:31 Classic Herb Dean stoppage
This was pretty interesting to see. It’s typically either 1 of 2 scenarios - either a young fighter realizes the path is not for him, or an old fighter realizes his path has come to an end. Or just an injury lol
Or they just get broken mentally
@@jeffreylee5607 a bit rarer in mma than boxing for the mental to actually be enough. A lot of people understand it takes just one of anything, a punch, a kick, a takedown. They try to hang in to make their loss look more honorable and that they have a slim chance of just somehow winning.
That’s 3 scenarios
It also seemed like on two occasions there were guys who were totally physically spent. Especially in the case of BJ Penn, who went on fighting long after that St. Pierre fight. He just took all he had to give to make it thru that fourth round.
@@chungusamongus519 Yeah I think more often than not fighters, instead of quitting on the stool, will continue on with no drive, essentially silently submitting and waiting for thr fight to be stopped.
When Chris Leben says hes done...hes done. That man is tough as nails
I got goosebumps when i saw how fast Trevor listened to his fighter. Thats someone who really cares for his guys.
Goosebumps for a simple and normal response? Calm down pal...
😮@four-twenty4205 it's rarely ever that simple
4:30: The commentary team begging Herb to 'STOP THE FIGHT!!' is an older tradition than I realised! Fucking hell, what a bad stoppage
Cb dollaway got deleted in 2018, not too long ago but damn man, he looked dead
Stop! He's already dead! 😭
Same commentators too.
@@austina.3677 I'm pretty sure it was the same card.
@@sineadoconormcG no it wasn't, the trinaldo one was on ufc fight island, this was ufc fight night 136
Jesus Christ 4:31 Herb Dean standing there like, "Damn. Someone really oughtta stop this fight. Who's even reffing this?"
If you look closely you can see Herb pull out his phone and whisper 'Worldstar'
@@seanmatthewking 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Hahahhaah funny as fuck thanks guys for the laugh
glad i'm not the only one who noticed. it's crazy how he let the guy just get pummeled.....it's better to stop a fight a bit too early than a bit too late.
dude should never have been a professional ref
when he said ive got nothing left, i felt that...
Sometimes you just have to admit you're done, no point taking unnecessary damage.Nothing but respect for anyone willing to go out and give it their all
Respect to any of these men that “quit” on the stool. They push their bodies to the physical limit and don’t need extra necessary damage if they’re being out classes.
A guy like Marquardt who had been around for so long in so many fights saying that means something. No need to even question him.
Man, the spirit of the french warrior one always gets me, baguettes really are something else lmao
Thank god gsp is French Canadian lol
It was after the first round too 😂 like after five minutes with the guy you feel like there’s no adjustments you can make whatsoever?😭
So embarrassing
Lmao
LMFAO fr. took a while in the lab for them to make Cyril Gane 😂
These are sad but honestly I have a lot of respect for these guys for the most part. It's not easy to go out on your shield, but it's also not easy to admit you've been bested and don't have a shot. I have no doubt that these guys only gave up because they felt they had absolutely nothing left to give. But they emptied the tank first and that's commendable, no shame in my eyes.
You are sad
No shit dude you're not saying anything clever
@@ihateyoutubecomments8100 jesus you're miserable, im assuming your a lonely guy
Seeing Chris Leben quit on the stool was very shocking because he very much embodied the 'never say die' fighter. But him quitting on the stool (no shame in that) was evident he didn't want to do this anymore, and true to his word it would also be his last MMA fight.
There is no shame in quitting on the stool but by quitting on the stool, you leave something behind mentally. Notice how EVERY single fighter in this video never looked the same after quitting? People need to understand the consequence of quitting as well because it could end careers. For someone like Leben and Nate, they were already at the end of their career so it was w/e but for someone like Max in the video who was young, it ended his career.
It is not as easy as "live to fight another day," it is more like "live and may never fight another day." It is a choice the fighter themselves need to decide because for most, it is the fork in the road.
nobody knows how tiring and difficult and nerve-racking it is to actually fight in a cage I respect all these dudes. 🙏
Nothing but respect for people stepping into the Cage! That takes huge balls
This was my exact thought watching some of these - 100% agree, all the respect to these dudes
Classic Herb dean there at the end. Letting the fight go as the fighter gets pummeled with no defense. Also kudos to Trevor man. Everytime I see that clip of him immediately calling it off as soon as the fighter said he's done, he calls it off immediately with no thoughts. You can try to encourage your fighter but should also know when to do that.
Dude was lifeless. Dean is a maniac
Herb: If he still breathin, we ain't leavin
And then the very next fight you have Mazzagatti actually stopping a fight.
Bro you been dropping top tier videos consecutively
I remember the Leben fight all to well. He was one of my favorites at the time and saying that he was at the end of his career was an understatement. He got hit by a flying knee like 2 seconds into that fight and i was already suprised he made it to the end of that round. Thank god he understood his limits at that moment and called it, because Hall was going to sleep him BAD
Weird favorite
@@JackBurton7130 how, his fights were entertaining
thank god for letting him get hit by a flying knee, was entertaining af, god is great!
He was an entertaining fighter, but fighters with his fighting style don't last long in this game. Touch damage.
My mindset of the spirit of the French fighter did not change
Sometimes the other fighter is just better or you have nothing left. Especially if you break something. Plus these are professionals too. No need to just keep getting hit on . Much respect to all fighters. Was fun to watch. Great video
"You will hate yourself for the rest of your life", Tito Ortiz
The comment I was looking for, what the fuck kind of coach says that too there fighter? That guy is probably gonna end up regretting it yes but it’s better than ending up with brain damage, + Tito’s his coach and that’s fairly cold blooded to say when your fighter is clearly going through it. Don’t know what I was expecting tho, just another common Tito L
Tito probably calls him a few times a year to remind him
You left out the part where he said that those grapes are gonna start sounding like a violin.
He crushed that fighter's soul like the juice box
Trevor Whittman is one of the best coaches of all time. What a legend.
4:22 That chest hair 🤣🤣🤣
Bet his nut hair is hairy too
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Man...this is the most impact video I have ever seen...Congrats to all fighters and warriors that have entried in the octagon. You all deserve our respect!!!
Knowing one's limits should always be commended.
Ive never seen that Dollaway “stoppage” before man Herb kind of a menace
I don't see it as 'quitting on the stool' .Deciding to stop fighting isn't shameful. Everyone has limits. You don't have to fight more than you possibly can just to impress the people watching.
Its not even their limit. Its just not wanting to have cte.
@@jr5993 That's true. There are fighters that don't have CTE though.
"quitting on the stool" is literally what it is, doesn't make it shameful
@@jasv49 Absolutely not. Quitting is a strong word and it shouldn't be used lightly. People tend to judge harshly those who understand that in the moment they didn't have anything more left to fight and call it there. I respect every fighter that gets in the cage and fights putting his health on the line.
@@thedarkcriminal1658 one literally said he quit. If they quit they quit man nothing shameful and my respect for these guys doesn't diminish at all but quiting is quiting bro.
The first one was literally gold homie had one chance to change the stereotype and ruined it😭
Well gane did his job for him in the future
@@snapdowndarsee4959 facts homie thank god they got gane atleast
@@snapdowndarsee4959 Gane is African French so it doesn’t count. French people are still soft
@@smartiechuco Well. He's still half french.
But yeah. It's funny as hell.
@@smartiechuco what about GSP? If Gane doesnt count because he is African, then surely GSP counts because he is of French descent
love how the referee stepped in to ask if he wanted to continue or not. real gentlemen 1:06
He made sure we all got to hear him quit
0:16 omg I forgot about that one 😂😂 that was like my favorite moment that season lol
It was first episode too I think
Huge respect to all the corners who protected their fighter and called the fight
Some really great coaching in this video. I wish all corners had that awareness.
Sakuraba is a legend for just how he finished Royce. The dude was all heart. He would fight in open weight tournaments and lose brutally or win spectacularly. He would have been a pretty badass welterweight or maybe even lightweight, which I think they both didn't have in Pride. I am not sure especially because I don't remember if their weight classifications allign with the UFCs. Whatever, the dude would drink and smoke and was still able to gas out a Gracie and looked like he could still go a couple of rounds. Crazy mofo.
He actually ended up fighting Igor Vovchanchyn for a full 15 minute round after the Gracie fight.
you're right, the weight class wasnt direct. If not mistaken, middleweight Pride is LHW UFC?
sakuraba, thats my goat
@kenshiman90 he is probably my favorite fighter. the guy was insane. he went all out. he lost fights that he shouldn't have taken to begin with, but he was always dangerous, even when he was clearly disadvantaged. he drank and smoked like it's part of a healthy diet. it doesn't make sense that he was as good as he was. Legend, and he deserves way more respect than he is getting.
Yeah but that style made his body a mess. Like literally needs a full body transplant to live a normal life. Is it worth it? I love Sakuraba, as much as any fight fan but he's only 54 right now, been retired 9 years. His health problems are as legendary as his fights.
"You will hate yourself the rest of your life if you quit right now."
None of this is quitting, it's living to fight another day.
also known as quitting.
there shouldnt be any stigma associated with that word.
@@sabin97cute cope, stay weak, beta
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what do you mean "cope"?(i know the literal meaningn of the word, jsut curious what you think i'm coping about)
@@sabin97 i believe you're coping with your own mental weakness by pretending that quitting is something that actual warriors do and its nothing to be ashamed of, when in fact, it is extremely shameful
@@YakubTheScientist8841
what makes you think i'm somehow mentally weak?
that's not a rhetorical question.
"that quitting is something that actual warriors do"
because it is.
duran did it.
cotto did it.
tito's father did it for him.
and many others have done it.
it's silly to die in the ring, or have permanent injuries.
"it is extremely shameful"
what do you find shameful about not dying in the ring?
again, not a rhetorical question.
Duke Roufus got a lot of admiration from me for that stoppage.
Fighters fight with broken hands all the time. Especially in boxing.
@@oldironsides4107 I know mate but he's lost a weapon and a one side of his defence. If the fight went on he wasn't going to do anything but take damage. He ain't out wrestling and grappling Tony
Any chance you reupload the video about coaches reactions to their fighters putting it all on the line? That video was a masterpiece ngl
They were never gone tho 🤔
@@ITPMMA Ig I'm stupid as fuck idk how I couldn't find them. Love the content keep it up bro.
when coachs listen to their fighters it makes me happy
I really love your videos man. Please do not stop making videos like they did between rounds
I quit on the stool in my first fight, I was really young and fought this really rangey power striker and literally every shot he hit me with snapped my head back, rocked me bad and I remember blocking a head kick but it was so powerful it pushed me back a meter into the cage. I remember telling my coaches I'm done and they did a little convincing but once 10sec warning came in my coach said to the ref that he was stopping it, he told me afterwards that he was gonna stop it as soon as I said I was done but wanted to atleast give me the full minute to make sure I wasn't gonna regret that decision. I did for a while but honestly I trust my gut so if that's how I felt at the time that was right. (The opponents now 7-1 with 6ko and a couple belts, actually had a beer with the bloke at a fight show last night)
Where you from?
wuss move, you could've won and made him 7-2
@@jazzabighits4473 or he could have gotten KO'ed and suffered brain damage.
No shame in that. 90% of people wouldn't even enter the cage.
I would and I would probably beat any UFC fighter's ass because I be seeing red when I'm mad.@@andydhillon1977
Penn showing why they call him BJ in the thumbnail
lol you wrong for that Phil
Bro ☠️😭
Ayo I didn't even think of that ✋😭🤣
trevor is a hell of a coach, he don't even hesitate when the fighter say he's done - he really care about his athletes
Im blown away that the French Fighter surrendered. I did not see that coming!
There was an incident in TUF where the fighter wanted to quit, but the corner convinced him to continue... he went on to win that fight. Cant remember the name nor what season it was though.
This does not undermine any fighter who throws in the towel. What if any of these guys suffered permanent damage because they were pressured to continue? They made the judgment call and called it quits, so we do not know.
@@durah1559 Its obvious you have missunderstood. Nowhere have I stated anything about going against ones will and keep on fighting when he doesnt want to fight.
I have simply stated a fact that I did see happen, on the ultimate fighter where a ... I belive a veteran(?) was very tired , he had taken damage after the first out of two rounds, but corner encouraged him to go back in there because they did see his opponent was tired too. The fighter went back in there, did his best and manage to submit (?) his opponent. He got extremly happy, got in to the house.
Urge you to actually try to read what people writing and not read what you think they are writing. As of now you fighting arguments that noone put forth.
I very much support early stoppage, good referees that knows what they are doing and long rest periods after one gets knocked out or is in a brawl where they take lots of punches to the head... So again please, read and try to understand what people say and dont jump to conclusions.
I hate when coaches don't grant their fighters their wish of stopping the fight. He's battered and doesn't want to fight don't force him to damage himself
Mad respect for the fighters and coaches that know their limit and when to call it. I enjoy watching MMA, but no one wants to see someone just taking a beating when they have nothing left and are just cooked. It is always hard for me to watch when you see a fighter just done and the fight keeps going.
Oh man lol that was a perfect opening clip. I remember watching that live 😂😂
I love a good pep talk but i also have a lot of respect for those corners that didn’t hesitate when they said “im done”
Big respect to anyone who went out there and realized and accepted that they were not going to win.
I respect those dudes more than the guys who didn’t know when to quit and are now busted up and slurring their words later in life.
Health is wealth and the older you get, the more you realize the choices you made when you were younger absolutely have a long lasting impact and you regret those choices that messed with your health.
first dude had a true french spirit
White flag the french!
Love to see Whittman call it. When you’re done, you’re done.
respect to all of them. takes balls to do what they do.
MMA is a sport. I respect these guys so much to be willing to accept defeat rather than throw themselves into a situation where they are unable to defend themselves just to save ego.
Honestly these guys should be applauded for knowing when to stop. And the coaches that don't hesitate to agree should be too. These guys risk so much and there's no reason to risk it if they don't have anything left
Trevor Whittman being an absolute boss
2:58 for the record this fight was like 2 hours long..
Respect for all these dudes
Mad respect to everyone involved. Very few, if any viewers of this video have anything like the bravery required to even think about competing here
@4:31 what does Herb need to see to stop this fight?! He's really considered the best ref by so many, absolutely ridiculous
Why stop? For weak lame punches thrown in the gloves?
@@tgb-vf4es Because the dude is clearly not able to defend himself anymore
0:24 is that Dana sitting with Tito? 😂
Why wouldn't he why are you even surprised?¿‽
Bruh the French being a meme will never get old
There is a quote like "Fearing strong and bullying weak". This applies 100% to french people.
@@shahriarkabir6924 it 100% applies, they liked bullying and stealing everything from africa, but they are a laughing stoke to the rest of the world, especially the anglo-saxon community
Herb: Are you wanna fight?
Guy on ground: No I am not fight
I have so much more respect for coaches that call it for their fighters instead of trying to push them into more damage. That's a real homie.
That Penn fight was weird. Never seen something like that from BJ the guy was just a true warrior. That said, he had it coming he was so over confident, and GSP was peak powers.
I never knew Marquardt had quit! Inwas a huge fan of his, and he brutalized a lot of guys. Such a talent.
For those criticising Tito must've not known he was speaking from experience, he tapped to punches previously to Frank Shamrock and it lived in his mind constantly, when he told that guy he needed to continue or he was gonna hate himself forever he was trying to keep the guy from making the same mistake he did especially since Chuck that whole season was bringing up Tito tapping to punches
These guys know their limits more than anyone else in the world
2:28 George was juiced to the gills in that fight.
“I have nothing left” damn, he really gave it his all….
okay but you did the french so dirty with that first one lmfao 🤣
Prayers For All Of These People🙏❤✝
The most surprising one for me was seeing BJ quit, but then again it's just a testament to GSP's dominance.
GSP punching the fence mad he didn’t stop BJ is wild. Dude was an animal. Love BJ too.
Danas face observing that dude quitting on the stool 😂😂😂
4:23 😂😂😂 his chest.
That was the frenchest way to go
it is mostly good decision especially when you know you are injured and/or going down in seconds
“You’ll hate yourself for the rest of your life “ 💯
Mazzagati's countdown is outstanding.
Nate: I have nothing left
Trevor: Okay. It's over.
other coaches.
Fighter: I'll die if I go back out there. I can't defend myself.
Coach: You got this baby, let's go!!!
I love a little herb dean looking at a dead body asking it if its done
Honestly, if you're getting the shti kicked out of you and can stop it, leaving early doesn't sound like a bad idea.
“are you wanna fight” is classic herb dean😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
GSP literally took penns soul in that fight. He was never the same man
He said he was gonna go to the death but he quit. But most men would do the same
@@DanDan-pz6oy he wasn’t far from it.
Sometimes it’s your day, and other times, it’s not. Respect for these warriors either way
You never really lose a fight until your brain accepts defeat.