@@hollister2320 but the Idols and Eurovision were not created with exactly the same purpose. I can't explain by words, only by seeing the eurovision for years and years is possible to understand the true meaning of the event/competition. The idols just hits in a different way
@@hollister2320 Eurovision is not a launching platform for singers, it’s an event to celebrate our cultures and to bring us together, watch the show and enjoy.
Hauke Holst see this. The Eurovision Song Contest (also only Eurovision and often abbreviated as ESC, in French Concours Eurovision de la chanson), formerly known as Eurofestival, is a music event founded in 1956 organized by the European Broadcasting Union based in Geneva and inspired by the Sanremo Festival. From the first edition of 1956 the competition is broadcast every year and is one of the longest running television programs in the world. It is also the most popular non-sporting event in the world: the listening data of the last few years at international level have been estimated as something between 100 million and 600 million, growing enormously. Eurovision has also been broadcast outside Europe in places such as Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Colombia, South Korea, Egypt, the Philippines, Japan, Jordan, India, Morocco (which only once participated in 1980), Mexico, New Zealand, United States of America, Taiwan, Thailand, Uruguay and Venezuela, despite the fact that they do not participate in the tender (with the exception of Australia, which takes part in 2015). Since 2000, the competition has also been broadcast on the Internet, and in 2006 more than 74,000 people in nearly 140 countries followed the online edition.
And not the mention it is way bigger. American Idol creates only MAKES local stars in de US (sometimes big world stars but mostly local celebs). The people who participate in the Eurovision ARE already local celebrities. Who do a compatition with other local celebrities/musicans. With like 600 million people watching. How many people watch American Idol, 12 million?
I can't stand it when they say "it's the European version of the American idol". Americans, know this... eurovision was born first. In any case, American idol is the American version of the Eurovision Song Contest
hehehh yesss. but if you want to be more accurate : Eurovision is extremely prestigious, no price money only national pride and hero for 1 year in your country!!!, very old( is a Record, longest running TV show in history) .. so American Idol and Super Bowl put together mixed with business, politics and circus.. then you have a half a picture what is like this festival here in Europe :)
I'm an American and I HATE the Super Bowl and all of our "talent" shows. I'd rather watch Eurovision. I'm sorry for the ignorance of most Americans. Eurovision will always be #1.
I'm European and I love the Super Bowl halftime show! I think it's better than Eurovision in terms of quality and talent (except for this year 😂), but I am a big fan of Eurovision too. Anyways Super Bowl is where all the best artists in the world like Beyoncé and MJ have performed which is the main reason why I think it's better than Eurovision.
Bruh how is this American ignorance, there is no particular reason for Americans to know what Eurovision is. That's like apologizing for American ignorance of Chinese fruit bats.
Please don't hate Amarican idol. Because in fact it ain't even american cuz it's a Dutch talent program.. The US just paid some money to also make their version but calling it American idol doesn't make it truly American.
Yeah that's a much better explanation. I mean, sometimes countries are LITERALLY AT WAR with each other, or at least have recently been at war with each other, while they sing in EuroVision. The tension, if often covered up for those not aware of the context, is a big part of what makes the show fun.
@@theamici lmao is that why america and russia had to end both world wars? Also what differences you're a bunch of white people that built your nations on the brutalization of indegenous populations through colonization. Also european countries mainly belguim openly operate child mines in africa primarily for cobalt.
Hello Americans : Nobody has any intrest in your Superbowl except the USA. Stop making this a world event because it isn't ! We got all the "talent" shows 2. This IS a global event (Australia even joined last year) ... idol, xfactor and other ridiculous shows ar not.
Lol they try to make it look like gods given sports event to the world, and you're asking who's saying they're trying to make it appeal to other countries?
@J H As an Eurovision fan, I find it funny you think the SuperBowl is a song competition😂 It isn't, it's the biggest American Football event, though I also don't have intrest on the SuperBowl
that journalist (The guy) is quite ignorant. thinking that the reason America doesn't know eurovision is because they have already singing competitions. lol. Really? As if those types of shows aren't also spread worldwide.. not to mention Eurovision came first.. so it's not an European version of the American Idol... geez
It's insulting and ignorant like most things that Americans say. In Europe when we have no knowledge about something we Google it like normal people, that way we don't look ignorant when the conversation comes up.
caesarlivenloud what is more stupis, is that they dont understand the concept of eurovision. he just assume is just another singing competition. eurovision concept is to bring european countries together into a singing competition.
ESC originally began to unite the continent after world war 2. For an American to compare something like American Idol to Eurovision is just embarrassing and shows how little knowledge the Americans have when it comes to the rest of the world.
that's exactly the reason why all Americans are stereotyped as ignorant. It's because shit like that can be said in the news and no one involved notices that they got like a completely wrong idea.
Europe: "Oh, Eurovision, this is our music contest we have, you probably won't understand…" US: "No, that's cute. It's like American Idol, isn't it?" *TRIGGERED*
in fact, what is the most exceptional (in the eyes of Americans), is that this show of at least 4 hours, is NOT interrupted by commercials! As it is organised by public broadcasting companies.
Juri, Your irony is not lost on me, but as you probably know there are always somebody who wants to argue at parties and try to drag others into it, but for the wast majority it is just a time to have fun and to be friendly. Don't be decieved to think that because somebody feels the need to make a point in a conflict they are in the middle of that everybody is pre-"occupied" with that....not even everybody from those countries. There are 42 countries involved where the wast majority puts their differences aside for this event.
Just look at like/dislike bar after someone wins these years...... Jamala almost has got as many dislikes as likes..... sooo I don't think it's doing it's purpose anymore.... and many times people are fighting about what they love..... yeah most of times I'm very dissapointed in who wins .... sooo sorry it's really turning into those competitions like American Idol.... just with a little smell of politics.
Russia doesnt need to cheat at all. Russia has always guaranteed tons of votes because of Russians and Rusophiles living in neighbouring countries. For instance, even if they bring an aufull song, they will allways have guaranteed ammount of points from Armenia, Belarus, Serbia, Montenegro, Moldova, Romania, Greece, Cyprus, etc. ... Galenika iz Zemuna jel?
That male reporter is so disrespectful had no interest in what he was reporting and was confused by "the bearded lady". Have some respect and don't be butt hurt over the fact that the U.S isnt apart of something bigger than "American idol". The women in blue handled it so well.
Lena Roblox, that's funny, because I remember him correcting an interviewer who called him "she" in 2014, explaining that he's a man who wears men's clothing in the everyday and goes by his real, male name. He just puts on a dress and uses the stage name Conchita Wurst when he performs.
He won only because of the political messege. Not because the song was good, we saw that in last years event aswell with netta winning. Also one more thing, can we get non european countries out of our competition?
They also destroyed the notion that 'Eurovision is bullshit and 100% political.' The fact that Portugal, Bulgaria, Moldova and Belgium, four countries with some of the least support in the contest in the past, managed to be in the Top 4 is amazing.
Haha I decided to add Belgium afterwards (other than Loic from 2015, they've mostly done consistently shit and haven't benefited from neighbouring votes etc.
I hate it when people are trying to portray Eurovision as a nothing but a political show where the country who's been the good boy throughout the year takes it home. IT'S NOT. If it was really a political contest, then we would have the same results or at least similar results each year. Of course you can observe politics in the songs or in the voting but it's not much of a game-changer. And I also hate it when people think Eurovision is some sort of a freak show where people can win with monster costumes or with a bearded lady and etc. If you truly know what Eurovision is and have been watching it for many years, you would know that Eurovision is more than a freak show where politics decide who wins. People didn't vote for Conchita because of her beard or we don't like Italy just because of the ape on stage. Look behind the story. Please find and watch the previous years one by one without skipping the semi finals. You'll understand.
Lol .... good boy..... WTF...... ESC is not working like that..... it's working on what countries have more favourites... but you can't deny that there's some context of a very small political system in there.... it's not big but it's clear it's there.... not what country was behaving in a good way.....:)) :P
@Nspnspker the voting for neighbouring countries is not so important anymore because there are so many countries participating and so many different votes. The neighboring country votes cancel themselves out.
Conchita won because she had amazing song, visuals that fit it and magnificent voice. Bad, boring or ungenuine messages drop the popularity, but rising from adversity, love and acceptance are just universally popular topics in pop songs. You need to stand out in Eurovision because there are over 40 new songs that most viewers haven't seen before, but standing out as bad isn't going to get any act points.
also a thing to note. It's not really about winning. It's about uniting as a continent and having fun. This contest started out after WWII and it was a way to idk chill and stuff. And now decades later it still is.
Comparing Eurovision to American Idol is double stupid: not only the Eurovision Song Contest started in the 1950s, but in Eurovision all songs must be original, no covers.
"Twice as many people as the super bowl?!" I swear, do all Americans think the super bowl is the greatest show in the world? The Champions League alone trumps the super bowl any year.
The UK(and other Big 5 such as Germany) should really stop skipping the semi finals. It's bad that people only get to see your song being performed once. You also need to keep sending good songs(like you did this year) to get some "respect" I guess. You know, build some trust that you're actually taking the contest seriously :P
It's not a question of whether you deserve to go straight to the finals, but whether that hurts your chances. There's a huge disadvantage in only performing once, and being seen as 'unfair' automatic qualifiers by voters.
It's not only the question of people thinking it's unfair. Showcasing on the semifinals may be very important to build up support. For example, Portugal's entry only reached #1 in the bookies odds on Friday (the day after the 2nd semi and before the final). If Portugal was one of the "big 5" and had direct access to the finals, Salvador Sobral would probably not gain enough momentum to win.
No its not like American Idol. Its not comparable. We also have Idol and talent in Sweden too. Eurovision is something much bigger and much more unique. It would be more fair to compare it to the Olympics. In Sweden we have six weeks of semi-finals before we choose a representative. A comparison to Idol is disrespectful.
@Veronica Pascucci I mean it kind of does revolve around the U.S. and russia. Reality is if your grandpas would've chosen not to side with an evil dictator then america and russia wouldn't have gotten involved and they wouldn't be a super power but the reality is your family chose a path of predjudice and joined the axis of evil.
@Veronica Pascucci every Italian soldier fought against the axis after they defeated by the US and England they didn't have a choice. Theres an Italian joke that was written by Italians. Whats the shortest book in history? A list of Italian war heroes. Alot of Italians were ashamed of the way Italy fought during WW2 when they were on both sides. There were some badass italians but the majority couldn't compare to american, british, russian, and serbians. Also the vast majority of the italian resistance was from sardina and sicily and pascucci isn't sicilia or sardegna its toscana or veneto.
their shocked reaction and asking who "voted for the lady with the beard" like.. its 2017 and we have progressed pretty well to just accept those people to participate???? its not WEIRD they can win??
The Eurovision Song Contest is "kinda Europe's version of American Idol"... ... on the same token, the New Testament is "kinda of a Greek written version of the 'Son of God' movie". *roll eyes*
Eurovision is an official song contest from European countries and Australia Off the record: It's a musical war between countries, voting is like Greek drama, tragedy and comedy at once In addition to the quality of the song itself, the winner decides: policy (how much more we hate his country) scandalals around song and often a voice is given to a third person, everything if works if you can sunk enemy So very often the winners surprise everyone, even the bookmakers and common sense ;)
My reaction was the same. They promote LGBT in US but will call somone LGBT cause he have long hair? Hahahahaha how ignorant of them that was insulting to LGBT and Michał Szpak
@@qzg7857 Well, they don't promote very good though, their promotion seems more like a 'oh I want to be seemed nice' stuff, If you have to do promotion, you know that there is something wrong. Here in Spain we don't do promotion and we are one of the most open-minded countries, because it's normalized, and if you show a lgtb person on the TV, no one will comment it because no one cares. If the USA show a lgtb person on TV and they comment, 'oh, look, there is a lgtb person on screen', you know what they are doing is more promotional than other thing.
Eurovision is literally nothing like to American Idol. Every year, a big bunch of countries send a song to the Eurovision Song Contest and they compete against each other through two semi finals and a Grand final.
I love how this video makes themselves feel better than Europe: “It’s all about politics...They want to see nation against nation” - Oh do we? Didn’t know!
.. and Morocco, and Azerbaijan, and Russia, and Georgia, and Turkey, and Armenia.. heck, even Cyprus is barely still in Europe. Let the Eurovision Song Contest.. begin!!
Sergio Milho You cant really explain Eurovision. Its basically this huge singing competition Held so Europe doesn't declare war on each other. You basically either love it or hate it. The voting is lowkey political. And its just fun to watch for the weirdness of the acts. And its not just a singing competition. Its more like the olympics of singing tbh
"We have all these other shows here." Yes, because Eurovision is the only show we have in Europe. Not like every European country has a version of exactly the same shows as you have in America or anything...
European version of American Idol?! EXCUSE YOU?! Is he seriously calling a 60 y.o. contest "version of American Idol"?! (though that means he doesn't understand Eurovision at all.
honestly comparing esc to american idol is not only ignorant but also kind of offensive. as someone pointed out it's a SONG contest, which american idol clearly isn't. the main goal of esc is to bring people and countries together, this year's motto "celebrate diversity" is kinda self explanatory and compare it to the super bowl and american idol is so wrong. the countries participating bring on stage their national pride, traditional costumes, music and languages, europe is NOT like the us, we are a very heterogeneous continent with plenty of languages, traditions and descents. please stop calling eurovision a european version of your shitty talent show. p.s. national selections are not reality shows but true song contests in their own way, please educate yourselves.
Giulia G Thank you. I completely agree. So annoying that they didn't made a real effort to do any research....stupid comparisons that doesn't make any sense...and why did the "expert" say that all the competitors were chosen by winning a talent show like "Idol" or "the voice"???? Like you said...most countries have a national competition show, where singers (sometimes famous from a TV show like x factor, sometimes not) compete with original songs and the public vote for their favorite song/performance...How is that hard to figure out and explain??
Don't compare if you don't know nothing about it. American Idol has 14 years. ESC has 61 years. just to start conversation: American Idol has contest between people. ESC has competition between countries.. with an huge production and awsome show. Do you have it? don't think so. Tal, now please make an update. Portugal won for the first time in 49 presences in the contest. Be my guest if you need any assistance upon reliable information,.
I´m a big fan but nothing about sexual minorities ... LGBT people like this contest because they feel normal here.The ESC (Eurovision Song Contest) always was inclusive, accepting diversity and more humane in relation with others, smaller countries, poor countries could participate with different conditions , human rights are the base for the rules. The managers EBU (european broadcasting union) trying to exclude politics but always is complicated and that is making more interesting... for short : Eurovision is extremely prestigious, no price money only national pride and hero for 1 year in your country!!!, is very old ( is a Record, longest running TV show in history), yes sometimes big winners Abba etc ( but usually not) .. so American Idol and Super Bowl put together on steroids then mixed with business, politics and circus.. then you have a half a picture what is like this festival here in Europe :)
This is Mockery of human intelligence ALL OF THIS SHIT WAS FAKE ASS LIP synched and anyone who remotely believes they are actually running around and singing with no difference in breathing LMFAO go suck on a lemon.
here you are. the ignorant, or only jealous ?? everything is live, the best example is Spain false singing just how he performed !! .. and if you want to check out, next year is in Lisbon then you can criticize ... until then, is better to shut up !!
It is stated in the rules that all singing has to be done live. The only voice that was allowed to be pre-recorded this year was a small part of Norway's song, they let it slide due to the nature of the song and due to it just being a small part.
The one they showed no, but it's true the contest started In Switzerland in 1956. And I guess it'll be hard to show any pictures from the first contest as it was only broadcast on radio
Patryk Wieczorek Wiesz, archiwalne nagrania pierwszej zwyciężczyni, Lys Assia, są rzadkie, ale istnieją. Gorzej w przypadku gdzieś w latach 60., Gdy wygrała Gigiola Cinquetti, był pożar magazynu i ogromna ilość pamiątek z tamtego konkursu opiera się na nagraniach radiowych i kilku krótkich ocalałych fragmentach. You know, archive videos of the very first winner, Lys Assia, are rare, but they still exist. Although there were hard times, somewhere in the 60s, when Gigiola Cinquetti won, there was a fire in some storage building, and all concert of that year is based on radio recordings and few very short, but recovered video fragments.
Z tego co czytałem istnieje tylko telewizyjne nagranie drugiego wykonania zwycięskej piosenki w 1956 roku, w końcu każdy zwycięzca wykonuje swoją piosenkę dwa razy. Co ciekawe w 1956 roku, na razie jedyny raz w konkursie, każdy wykonawca wykonywał dwie piosenki. Z tego co wiema druga piosenka Lys Assia z Eurowizji 1956, "Das alte Karussell" jest dostępna tylko w formie audio. From what I read the video recording is only of the second performance of the winning song in 1956, as we know every winner performances the winning song twice. What is isnteresting is that in 1956, as far the only time, every singer sang two songs. From what I know the recording of Lys Assia's second songfrom Eurovision 1956 "Das alte Karussell" is only available as an audio recording.
LGBT rights... Israel.... Champion??? Oh gosh, she really needs to travel to some other countries... Is she a journalist or a housekeeping lady? Belgium and Luxembourg have had gay prime ministers, Netherlands was the first country to legalise gay marriage and adoption followed by many others in Europe in early 2000...
But she is talking about fighting for LGBT rights on Eurovision. And Israel has never been known as a very modern country and it was quite shocking seeing the first transgender person participating coming from there. They changed the way LGBT rights are shown there
I am extremely happy this year 2017 the Portugal won the Eurovision through their native langue , and more to it, sending positive essentiel message to the whole world of better living... love, peace, poetry, tenderness, kindness through his music and his performance...and hopefully, we'll hear more and more original song of each country that taking part, that we could discover more and more beautiful languages of the European country....
American Idol is just a show! We have these kind of show too. But Eurovision is a massive of creation, talent, all the Europeans and some non EU countries united all together, going in one direction. Music Celebration!!!
Both women tried to explain this very well but the guy... how many ignorant comments came out of his mouth per minute? I can understand that he had no idea about the contest and I could even forgive his "Super Bowl" comment but, the Conchita one? Ignorant!
Eurovivision happened long before and has always had way more credit than the Super Bowl. Seriously it shits me how much Americans know about their own country compared to the rest of the world, let alone to third world contries
First... I'm so glad America is not in it! NO it's not like American Idol! OMG! And why are they only interested in Israel's contribution? And "the bearded lady"? It's a gay man in drag, who wore a DRESS not a night gown, and he can really sing! He deserved to win!
stiras1 i24 News is an Israeli network who broadcasts in French, Arabic and English. The English channel has some shows from their studios in New York city
Unlike most in the US, I am a bit familiar with Eurovision, and it is a shame on us that the show hasn't been on TV here over the years on a regular basis. Only one American has been a winner, Katrina Leskanich of Katrina and the Waves in 1997, and, of course, the rest of the band is from the UK. That might be an answer. About the only winner most would recognize is ABBA, from 1974. "Waterloo" opened the door for their success. Sir Cliff Richard didn't hit until the mid-70's. Some winners do get records released in the US, especially if they're in English (multilingualism just doesn't seem to be our thing). Johnny Logan, Bucks Fizz and Brotherhood of Man all tried, with little success. Even the Waves' "Love Shine a Light" barely made a peep. There is nothing like it here; "Idol", "The Voice" and "X Factor", all based on UK shows, are the closest we have, though 'talent shows' have existed back to the days of network radio in the 1940's. Eurovision is unique, and underappreciated in the States. We have our own political circus over here, but it has little to do with music.
RJ Mc Allister - the problem is, that USA missed the point in the '50s to join the Eurovision. If they did, Eurovision would be in USA as popular as it is here in Europe and in Australia (even in China, Thailand etc. they watch the show) ....the interest in Asia is so big, that they will make their own Eurovison Asia Song contest .....starting in October 2018.
If this "journalist" saw some images of Venice (Italy) with its canals and buildings, he would say that that place it's the European version of The Venetian Hotel of Las Vegas.
Eurovision is nothing close to American idol, it is 50% the judges & 50% televoting from all participating countries, it gives a lot of opportunities for smaller countries & artists but also shows the huge diverse culture of Europe and is something to be proud of. It brings people together, it showcases culture, languages, various ethnicities, genders, sexualities and so on. Many europeans will have learned about geography & culture growing up watching Eurovision and from there people do their research etc and it truly is an amazing experience for all participating countries to be proud of! #Eurovision
Pop Idol was a copycat show of Popstars, from New Zealand around 1999. Simon Fuller took the format and created Pop Idol in 2001. Cowell was just a judge on Idol. He took the format for his own X-Factor and to an extent also Britains Got Talent. Cowell wasn't the over critical judge on Idol, that was 'Nasty Nigel' Lythgoe. Judging panel pop shows no doubt go back a few decades before Popstars
Oh man. The presenter said that they don’t envy Eurovision because they have American idol and Got Talen. Well in Europe we have Got talent as well. And American idol and Eurovision are years light. I would say the best show in the world is Eurovision.
Eurovision is definitely NOT like american idol. But the other thing that annoyed me A LOT was that when the anchorman asked who she thought it was going to win she said Italy because they have a dancing ape and he's like "oh god, these weird europeans "... Gabbani's song was meant to be also fun and catchy, but there is more about it, it's not only "a dancing ape on a stage". They want to make it look like some sort of freak show, "who's gonna vote for a bearded lady in a nightgown?", well a lot of people since she won? Actually watch the show, instead of spreading completely wrong facts about it or trying to make it look stupid.
I find that every american contest, like singing or sport that only for themselves, they always call themselves "the best of the world". They really need to open their minds, get involved to the rest of the world, telling them that they are not alone
It's weird that America is only getting "kinda into it" so recently, I mean, we live in the 21st century with social media and youtube right? It's only since about last year that eurovision is mentioned on popular american talk shows, TV stations and the REACT channel on youtube...
Mericans in general have very little interest of things outside their borders, and they often seem to have a hard time grasping cultural differences without thinking everything that is new to them is 'weird'.
Well Eurovision was only showed live for the first on an American Chanel last year, which explains the "sudden" curiosity from som Americans. (And I know everybody is also saying, but this isn't the Europen version of American Idol??? At all? WTFH???
Aren't Broadcasters supposed to be intelligent? Especially being able to talk sensitively and intelligently about modern topics? "Dana International, of course, that was the winner from Israel that was a transgender." "a transgender". Basic grammar.
I do love the comment section. How three people managed to piss of an entire continent!! I know the reason Americans don’t know about it. It’s because it’s the most inclusive event of the year. It doesn’t matter your nationality, your colour, your sexual orientation, how you dress, what language you sing in. Come in, join us, dance and sing to the good songs, laugh at the awful ones, wave your flag with pride and shout at the voting. It’s the same which ever country in Europe you watch it in. We love it.
The favorite to win: "definitely Italy", but was in 6th position. The biggest winner was even Portugal after participating 53 times, as was also the country to reach the highest number of votes in the history of Eurovision, 758 points.
We also have idols, the voice and X factor each country for themselves. Eurovision is the only big show where all countries are showing their candidate and we all vote for the one we like.
You are right, we can only hope now that the teens of today realise that music is not only pop and that there so much things that they can listen to. But unfortunately, they will only realise this when they reach the adult age, and by that time they will be even more similar pop songs than today.
I think this topic, that Sobral also touches gets understood in the wrong way. On one side I see people who enjoys classical music, perhaps they point at Beatles and how great music was in earlier times. On the other side you have every day music consumers who actually has their own musical taste and can actually speak for what they enjoy or not, perhaps without a fancy word for it. Music is music. No matter if you think it's crappy, overproduced or sold out, it's still music. And music evolves. Though the years people have discovered new ways of creating and sharing music. And people connect though music. There is no way to reach good music. I can be technically skilled, but people still want the emotional touch. I will never discriminate to put pop as something less worth than let's say Mozart. Mozart was good at writing music. He did tons of pieces. And some of them are rubbish. And some of them are fantastic. Just like pop music. Beatles made over 300 songs. Yes, some of them are classic. And some of them are rubbish. You can prefer a special sound, a special genre, or a special musician. This does not mean the other people are wrong. Just like when I say some songs or compositions are rubbish. That's my opinion. Just like when other people say pop music is rubbish. You can feel free to think like that. Just don't believe it's the only truth. Because music taste is subjective. If you don't like pop music, well then you perhaps haven't heard the right tune for you yet. Just like you could say about classical music, or folk music, or hiphop, or sacral music, or drum step, or madrigals, or jazz, or techno, or Schlager music, or EDM, or opera, or reggae, or musicals, or afropop, or rock music, or beatbox music, or punk music, or modern art music... and the list just goes on
I know everyone talks about being irritated about then calling it similar to American idol, but notice how much they talk about Russia and other political problems. Why do they even bring stuff like that up, when it doesn’t even help explain, just makes it look like some political agenda shit that only Europeans do. Also how they specifically talk about the superbowl a few times. They do realise that eurovision attracts to a lot of countries and that the superbowl is majorly an American thing right? I mean what it looks to me like what they’re doing is that they have to talk about it but like show how weird and bad this show is that the Europeans made, and that stuff like the superbowl is better because it’s American. Idk that’s just how I feel.
Wow, the level of delusion. ESC is a competition that has existed since 1958 where artist across the European continent compete with ORIGINAL songs - while over 200 million people are watching around the world. American Idol, on the other hand, is a rip-off of "Pop Idol" (UK, 2001-2003) where wannabe-artist perform song covers (karaoke) for an TV audience of approximately 8 million people. Please, do NOT compare these shows again.
What annoyed me the most, is the fact that the person explaining things (in a very good way to be honest), was simply cut off ... remind me to never watch US television news once again ...
"It's like a European version of American idol"
Jesus, that just hurts my ears...
If I was a singer, I would have a better chance of making it big doing Idol shows rather than Eurovision, the track record speaks for itself
@@hollister2320 but the Idols and Eurovision were not created with exactly the same purpose. I can't explain by words, only by seeing the eurovision for years and years is possible to understand the true meaning of the event/competition. The idols just hits in a different way
@@hollister2320 Eurovision is not a launching platform for singers, it’s an event to celebrate our cultures and to bring us together, watch the show and enjoy.
@@hollister2320 idol is originally british, the usa just made their own version of it
Eurovision SONG contest, they should only read the name to get that it's not like american idol or other singing competitions. Sigh
Well, this just comfirmed that american understand nothing about it
how is that surprising?
This just confirmed Eurpoeans are judgemental
They said that American not that Americans and he clearly didn't. You're a credit to your nation, can you even read?
No i think he ment to say all americans becuase why wouldn't he just have said "he doesn't understand". Why would he just say "that american"?
Hauke Holst see this.
The Eurovision Song Contest (also only Eurovision and often abbreviated as ESC, in French Concours Eurovision de la chanson), formerly known as Eurofestival, is a music event founded in 1956 organized by the European Broadcasting Union based in Geneva and inspired by the Sanremo Festival.
From the first edition of 1956 the competition is broadcast every year and is one of the longest running television programs in the world. It is also the most popular non-sporting event in the world: the listening data of the last few years at international level have been estimated as something between 100 million and 600 million, growing enormously.
Eurovision has also been broadcast outside Europe in places such as Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, Colombia, South Korea, Egypt, the Philippines, Japan, Jordan, India, Morocco (which only once participated in 1980), Mexico, New Zealand, United States of America, Taiwan, Thailand, Uruguay and Venezuela, despite the fact that they do not participate in the tender (with the exception of Australia, which takes part in 2015). Since 2000, the competition has also been broadcast on the Internet, and in 2006 more than 74,000 people in nearly 140 countries followed the online edition.
American Idol is a *SINGERS* contest, Eurovision is a *SONG* contest. Know the damn different.
Lior Haliva get *REKT* America.
+Lior *difference
Apart from that typo...100% Agree
And not the mention it is way bigger. American Idol creates only MAKES local stars in de US (sometimes big world stars but mostly local celebs). The people who participate in the Eurovision ARE already local celebrities. Who do a compatition with other local celebrities/musicans. With like 600 million people watching. How many people watch American Idol, 12 million?
plus - are there all the United states sending their representatives to American Idol?
Lior Haliva **difference. Your spelling makes me sick :)
I can't stand it when they say "it's the European version of the American idol". Americans, know this... eurovision was born first. In any case, American idol is the American version of the Eurovision Song Contest
hehehh yesss. but if you want to be more accurate : Eurovision is extremely prestigious, no price money only national pride and hero for 1 year in your country!!!, very old( is a Record, longest running TV show in history) .. so American Idol and Super Bowl put together mixed with business, politics and circus.. then you have a half a picture what is like this festival here in Europe :)
Americans live inside an egg...
lol they are comparing american idol which is just america to a song contest which happens all through europe.
Yeah, and they are not singing original songs in American Idol.
Yes, it's actually the European version of Sanremo Music Festival ;)
How in the world is Eurovision similar to American idol srsly
How the hell is American idol even american. Since it's a Dutch program. So even american idol the Americans didn't come up with by themselves.
MonarNL if you’re gonna correct people be right
I'm an American and I HATE the Super Bowl and all of our "talent" shows. I'd rather watch Eurovision. I'm sorry for the ignorance of most Americans. Eurovision will always be #1.
I'm European and I love the Super Bowl halftime show! I think it's better than Eurovision in terms of quality and talent (except for this year 😂), but I am a big fan of Eurovision too.
Anyways Super Bowl is where all the best artists in the world like Beyoncé and MJ have performed which is the main reason why I think it's better than Eurovision.
Bruh how is this American ignorance, there is no particular reason for Americans to know what Eurovision is. That's like apologizing for American ignorance of Chinese fruit bats.
Please don't hate Amarican idol. Because in fact it ain't even american cuz it's a Dutch talent program.. The US just paid some money to also make their version but calling it American idol doesn't make it truly American.
#Respect
MonarNL actually the original was pop idol in the uk
"Offers Europeans to put aside their differences--"
Put aside? Honey, Eurovision is Europe's Hunger Games.
Yeah that's a much better explanation. I mean, sometimes countries are LITERALLY AT WAR with each other, or at least have recently been at war with each other, while they sing in EuroVision. The tension, if often covered up for those not aware of the context, is a big part of what makes the show fun.
Sooo true hahaha
@@theamici lmao is that why america and russia had to end both world wars? Also what differences you're a bunch of white people that built your nations on the brutalization of indegenous populations through colonization. Also european countries mainly belguim openly operate child mines in africa primarily for cobalt.
"it's like a European version of American idol" nope, it isn't.
KateDenthimamai completely different.
It's a copy of the english "pop idol".
American Idol is a Dutch format to begin with...
Thats why he said not really after lol
Idol owned by Endemol from the Netherlands, Europe again :)
"Who voted for the bearded lady in the night gown?"
What the fuck man?
Well, that was annoying.
Sincerely, Europe.
Hello Americans : Nobody has any intrest in your Superbowl except the USA. Stop making this a world event because it isn't ! We got all the "talent" shows 2. This IS a global event (Australia even joined last year) ... idol, xfactor and other ridiculous shows ar not.
silke kleine Australia actually joined in 2015 for the 60th anniversary
Who said america was trying to make the superbowl appeal to other countries
Lol they try to make it look like gods given sports event to the world, and you're asking who's saying they're trying to make it appeal to other countries?
Personally, I find the European artistes have much to give in art music ...
@J H As an Eurovision fan, I find it funny you think the SuperBowl is a song competition😂 It isn't, it's the biggest American Football event, though I also don't have intrest on the SuperBowl
wtf american idol??? NO.... eurovision iS ALL ABOUT ORIGINAL MUSIC
Mars yES
Germany wasn’t original
And some others
But I like eurovision
Nemo doesn't matter how original they are, by original it means songs they've wrote themselves. That's all.
that journalist (The guy) is quite ignorant. thinking that the reason America doesn't know eurovision is because they have already singing competitions. lol. Really? As if those types of shows aren't also spread worldwide.. not to mention Eurovision came first.. so it's not an European version of the American Idol... geez
No shit beacuase he dosen't know what eurovision is so he uses american idol as a refrence like holy shit
It's insulting and ignorant like most things that Americans say. In Europe when we have no knowledge about something we Google it like normal people, that way we don't look ignorant when the conversation comes up.
it's even worse when these guys are journalists... they should do their homework...
caesarlivenloud what is more stupis, is that they dont understand the concept of eurovision. he just assume is just another singing competition. eurovision concept is to bring european countries together into a singing competition.
oh well... sad.
American Idol is nothing like ESC though?
American Idol is basically X Factor or The Voice, many European countries are hosting those shows too.
Jamelele true
Jamelele The voice originated in the Netherlands mate
Strawberryishness I know. Your point is..? I never said otherwise.
American Idol is based on Pop Idol which is from the UK. Same with X factor! Basically all their singing contests are copied from Europe lol
I felt offended... ESC is over 60 years and he compare with American Idol... yeah... So assh*le
Oh America... are you actually part of this world?
Nah they're part of they're own world. Everything else is alien or uninteresting to them unless they're apart of it
I mean America is a continent, and I like Canada and Mexico, but The United States has there own world
No, because they thinks that they are the kings of the World HAHAHAHAHAHA poor ignorants...
Imperial America You are unarguably superior in one particularly respect that is the percentage of fat in your bodies.
They live in their American bubble.
European countries sometimes might not like each other but when it comes to America then we'll all stick together
Your 100% right😂
besides british, american' partners in crime.
Latin America would definitely join with us against the US xd
ESC originally began to unite the continent after world war 2. For an American to compare something like American Idol to Eurovision is just embarrassing and shows how little knowledge the Americans have when it comes to the rest of the world.
that's exactly the reason why all Americans are stereotyped as ignorant. It's because shit like that can be said in the news and no one involved notices that they got like a completely wrong idea.
Europe: "Oh, Eurovision, this is our music contest we have, you probably won't understand…"
US: "No, that's cute. It's like American Idol, isn't it?"
*TRIGGERED*
Funny because both American Idol and America’s got talent are imported british shows.
@@peteradaniel And the Voice from The Netherlands so 😂
😂😂
Eurovision is NOTHING like American Idol. Thank God for that.
I'm American, Europeans, I apologise of what these dipsticks just said.
Thanks. It’s really hard as Europeans watching Americans talk about us, but at least there are sensible Americans like you.
Thank u soo much❤️
@Matthew Williams And it's worst considering that all of those contests are from Europe too
y’all are a bunch of snowflakes the fact that you made a big deal out of this is just sad, and yes I’m American🇺🇸
no sweat, sister :-)
in fact, what is the most exceptional (in the eyes of Americans), is that this show of at least 4 hours, is NOT interrupted by commercials!
As it is organised by public broadcasting companies.
I stopped the video at "the european version of american idol"
I started to read the comments.....to find some one with the same thought 🤔 ........
Kind a lot 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅
U did the right thing, that part was so cringe lol
@Veronica Pascucci cringe af
The Eurovision Song Contest have always been a big party to bring nations together. Everything else is secondary.
btfication yes just look at russia an ukraine:D totally worked
Juri, Your irony is not lost on me, but as you probably know there are always somebody who wants to argue at parties and try to drag others into it, but for the wast majority it is just a time to have fun and to be friendly. Don't be decieved to think that because somebody feels the need to make a point in a conflict they are in the middle of that everybody is pre-"occupied" with that....not even everybody from those countries. There are 42 countries involved where the wast majority puts their differences aside for this event.
Just look at like/dislike bar after someone wins these years...... Jamala almost has got as many dislikes as likes..... sooo I don't think it's doing it's purpose anymore.... and many times people are fighting about what they love..... yeah most of times I'm very dissapointed in who wins .... sooo sorry it's really turning into those competitions like American Idol.... just with a little smell of politics.
btfication except for russia who must cheat for getting votes.
Russia doesnt need to cheat at all. Russia has always guaranteed tons of votes because of Russians and Rusophiles living in neighbouring countries. For instance, even if they bring an aufull song, they will allways have guaranteed ammount of points from Armenia, Belarus, Serbia, Montenegro, Moldova, Romania, Greece, Cyprus, etc. ... Galenika iz Zemuna jel?
OMG that man is so ignorant! He shows no interest in it because he thinks it's dumb! Eurovision is awesome!!!!!
That male reporter is so disrespectful had no interest in what he was reporting and was confused by "the bearded lady". Have some respect and don't be butt hurt over the fact that the U.S isnt apart of something bigger than "American idol". The women in blue handled it so well.
It’s not like American Idol at all more like a musical olympic game
That is actually a much better comparison than the one they made.
'What countries would vote for that bearded lady?' - we all did. She won. And she was awesome.
Lena Roblox, that's funny, because I remember him correcting an interviewer who called him "she" in 2014, explaining that he's a man who wears men's clothing in the everyday and goes by his real, male name. He just puts on a dress and uses the stage name Conchita Wurst when he performs.
Lena Roblox i pick the pronouns i will use, me, i do, not you or anybody else.
Hypno Bloom this sounded kinda rude, it's like he expected nobody to vote for him cause he is LGBT. LOL.
The performance is baller.
He won only because of the political messege. Not because the song was good, we saw that in last years event aswell with netta winning. Also one more thing, can we get non european countries out of our competition?
"European version of American idols". This sentence already gave me cancer. Of course, American idols already ran before 1956... -.-
Soo many mistakes in the same interview
And Portugal won and completely destroyed the notion that 'more is better'.
Less is more. ;)
They also destroyed the notion that 'Eurovision is bullshit and 100% political.' The fact that Portugal, Bulgaria, Moldova and Belgium, four countries with some of the least support in the contest in the past, managed to be in the Top 4 is amazing.
scorpioninpink 4 countries in top 3 xD ?
Haha I decided to add Belgium afterwards (other than Loic from 2015, they've mostly done consistently shit and haven't benefited from neighbouring votes etc.
YepItsThatGuy Well, Belgium has more political support than the others that you mentioned...
I hate it when people are trying to portray Eurovision as a nothing but a political show where the country who's been the good boy throughout the year takes it home. IT'S NOT. If it was really a political contest, then we would have the same results or at least similar results each year. Of course you can observe politics in the songs or in the voting but it's not much of a game-changer. And I also hate it when people think Eurovision is some sort of a freak show where people can win with monster costumes or with a bearded lady and etc. If you truly know what Eurovision is and have been watching it for many years, you would know that Eurovision is more than a freak show where politics decide who wins. People didn't vote for Conchita because of her beard or we don't like Italy just because of the ape on stage. Look behind the story. Please find and watch the previous years one by one without skipping the semi finals. You'll understand.
Lol .... good boy..... WTF...... ESC is not working like that..... it's working on what countries have more favourites... but you can't deny that there's some context of a very small political system in there.... it's not big but it's clear it's there.... not what country was behaving in a good way.....:)) :P
@Nspnspker the voting for neighbouring countries is not so important anymore because there are so many countries participating and so many different votes. The neighboring country votes cancel themselves out.
if it were political germany would always win but instead they never get any points
Conchita won because she had amazing song, visuals that fit it and magnificent voice. Bad, boring or ungenuine messages drop the popularity, but rising from adversity, love and acceptance are just universally popular topics in pop songs. You need to stand out in Eurovision because there are over 40 new songs that most viewers haven't seen before, but standing out as bad isn't going to get any act points.
also a thing to note. It's not really about winning. It's about uniting as a continent and having fun. This contest started out after WWII and it was a way to idk chill and stuff. And now decades later it still is.
Comparing Eurovision to American Idol is double stupid: not only the Eurovision Song Contest started in the 1950s, but in Eurovision all songs must be original, no covers.
"Twice as many people as the super bowl?!" I swear, do all Americans think the super bowl is the greatest show in the world? The Champions League alone trumps the super bowl any year.
“It’s like a European version of American idol”
This is actually pretty hurtful to hear…
Brexit wouldn't (and didn't) affect our results anyway. We haven't won for years - even though this year our song was good
I enjoyed UK's song this year so much! Can't understand it still got not that many votes though
The UK(and other Big 5 such as Germany) should really stop skipping the semi finals. It's bad that people only get to see your song being performed once. You also need to keep sending good songs(like you did this year) to get some "respect" I guess. You know, build some trust that you're actually taking the contest seriously :P
Mycenaea well we (the big 5) donate the most money, so without us the contest wouldn't even be happening
It's not a question of whether you deserve to go straight to the finals, but whether that hurts your chances. There's a huge disadvantage in only performing once, and being seen as 'unfair' automatic qualifiers by voters.
It's not only the question of people thinking it's unfair. Showcasing on the semifinals may be very important to build up support.
For example, Portugal's entry only reached #1 in the bookies odds on Friday (the day after the 2nd semi and before the final). If Portugal was one of the "big 5" and had direct access to the finals, Salvador Sobral would probably not gain enough momentum to win.
No its not like American Idol. Its not comparable. We also have Idol and talent in Sweden too. Eurovision is something much bigger and much more unique. It would be more fair to compare it to the Olympics. In Sweden we have six weeks of semi-finals before we choose a representative. A comparison to Idol is disrespectful.
@Veronica Pascucci I mean it kind of does revolve around the U.S. and russia. Reality is if your grandpas would've chosen not to side with an evil dictator then america and russia wouldn't have gotten involved and they wouldn't be a super power but the reality is your family chose a path of predjudice and joined the axis of evil.
@Veronica Pascucci every Italian soldier fought against the axis after they defeated by the US and England they didn't have a choice. Theres an Italian joke that was written by Italians. Whats the shortest book in history? A list of Italian war heroes. Alot of Italians were ashamed of the way Italy fought during WW2 when they were on both sides. There were some badass italians but the majority couldn't compare to american, british, russian, and serbians. Also the vast majority of the italian resistance was from sardina and sicily and pascucci isn't sicilia or sardegna its toscana or veneto.
their shocked reaction and asking who "voted for the lady with the beard"
like.. its 2017 and we have progressed pretty well to just accept those people to participate???? its not WEIRD they can win??
The Eurovision Song Contest is "kinda Europe's version of American Idol"...
... on the same token, the New Testament is "kinda of a Greek written version of the 'Son of God' movie".
*roll eyes*
europe's version of american idol?
lol
Eurovision song contest was born in 1956 so... American Idol is american version of Eurovision
Eurovision is an official song contest from European countries and Australia
Off the record:
It's a musical war between countries, voting is like Greek drama, tragedy and comedy at once
In addition to the quality of the song itself, the winner decides:
policy (how much more we hate his country)
scandalals around song and
often a voice is given to a third person, everything if works if you can sunk enemy
So very often the winners surprise everyone, even the bookmakers and common sense ;)
ML8593wy Dumbhead it was created by Switzerland
@ML8593wy it was created by Switzerland actually, they had an idea
I love watching him visibly pause when he reads 200 million viewers. "Thats like... double the Superbowl????"
Michał szpak from poland is not LGBT . He just have long hair . Wft , USA?
My reaction was the same. They promote LGBT in US but will call somone LGBT cause he have long hair? Hahahahaha how ignorant of them that was insulting to LGBT and Michał Szpak
@@qzg7857 Well, they don't promote very good though, their promotion seems more like a 'oh I want to be seemed nice' stuff, If you have to do promotion, you know that there is something wrong. Here in Spain we don't do promotion and we are one of the most open-minded countries, because it's normalized, and if you show a lgtb person on the TV, no one will comment it because no one cares. If the USA show a lgtb person on TV and they comment, 'oh, look, there is a lgtb person on screen', you know what they are doing is more promotional than other thing.
Eurovision is literally nothing like to American Idol. Every year, a big bunch of countries send a song to the Eurovision Song Contest and they compete against each other through two semi finals and a Grand final.
I love how this video makes themselves feel better than Europe: “It’s all about politics...They want to see nation against nation” - Oh do we? Didn’t know!
"Europe and Israel"
Australia: *Am I a joke to you*
.. and Morocco, and Azerbaijan, and Russia, and Georgia, and Turkey, and Armenia.. heck, even Cyprus is barely still in Europe.
Let the Eurovision Song Contest.. begin!!
"the only type of rivalry which Europe hopes to see driving a nation against nation" - Nope, there is the soccer European Championship too.
They know NOTHING about it.
Europe's version of American Idol!?!?!? Rolling my eyes on that pfff so American of him Jeezzz
Rolling my eyes at europeans who hate on american who are just confused
Rootjekadootje How is it different?
Americans make me roll my eyes in general tbh
+Sergio
Maybe because America only competes against themselves, so no matter what happens, they always get to say they have a new winner.
Sergio Milho You cant really explain Eurovision. Its basically this huge singing competition Held so Europe doesn't declare war on each other. You basically either love it or hate it. The voting is lowkey political. And its just fun to watch for the weirdness of the acts. And its not just a singing competition. Its more like the olympics of singing tbh
The guy was very ignorant and rude. 😒
"We have all these other shows here." Yes, because Eurovision is the only show we have in Europe. Not like every European country has a version of exactly the same shows as you have in America or anything...
European version of American Idol?! EXCUSE YOU?!
Is he seriously calling a 60 y.o. contest "version of American Idol"?! (though that means he doesn't understand Eurovision at all.
That guy really trying hard to to defend America with their American singing shows, in which some originated from Europe🤭
The amount of fals information in this video is unbelievable. Why are American journalists so bad at doing research?
because they dont want to accept that europe has an event that is much bigger than their events
honestly comparing esc to american idol is not only ignorant but also kind of offensive. as someone pointed out it's a SONG contest, which american idol clearly isn't. the main goal of esc is to bring people and countries together, this year's motto "celebrate diversity" is kinda self explanatory and compare it to the super bowl and american idol is so wrong. the countries participating bring on stage their national pride, traditional costumes, music and languages, europe is NOT like the us, we are a very heterogeneous continent with plenty of languages, traditions and descents. please stop calling eurovision a european version of your shitty talent show.
p.s. national selections are not reality shows but true song contests in their own way, please educate yourselves.
Giulia G Thank you. I completely agree. So annoying that they didn't made a real effort to do any research....stupid comparisons that doesn't make any sense...and why did the "expert" say that all the competitors were chosen by winning a talent show like "Idol" or "the voice"???? Like you said...most countries have a national competition show, where singers (sometimes famous from a TV show like x factor, sometimes not) compete with original songs and the public vote for their favorite song/performance...How is that hard to figure out and explain??
Thank you, so right ❤️
Don't compare if you don't know nothing about it.
American Idol has 14 years. ESC has 61 years. just to start conversation:
American Idol has contest between people. ESC has competition between countries.. with an huge production and awsome show. Do you have it? don't think so.
Tal, now please make an update.
Portugal won for the first time in 49 presences in the contest.
Be my guest if you need any assistance upon reliable information,.
Update: esc is exporting to america for 2022 or something like that.
I´m a big fan but nothing about sexual minorities ... LGBT people like this contest because they feel normal here.The ESC (Eurovision Song Contest) always was inclusive, accepting diversity and more humane in relation with others, smaller countries, poor countries could participate with different conditions , human rights are the base for the rules. The managers EBU (european broadcasting union) trying to exclude politics but always is complicated and that is making more interesting... for short : Eurovision is extremely prestigious, no price money only national pride and hero for 1 year in your country!!!, is very old ( is a Record, longest running TV show in history), yes sometimes big winners Abba etc ( but usually not) .. so American Idol and Super Bowl put together on steroids then mixed with business, politics and circus.. then you have a half a picture what is like this festival here in Europe :)
This is Mockery of human intelligence ALL OF THIS SHIT WAS FAKE ASS LIP synched and anyone who remotely believes they are actually running around and singing with no difference in breathing LMFAO go suck on a lemon.
here you are. the ignorant, or only jealous ?? everything is live, the best example is Spain false singing just how he performed !! .. and if you want to check out, next year is in Lisbon then you can criticize ... until then, is better to shut up !!
How fucking stupid are you? In Eurovision there is no live instruments, but the vocals are all live.
It is stated in the rules that all singing has to be done live. The only voice that was allowed to be pre-recorded this year was a small part of Norway's song, they let it slide due to the nature of the song and due to it just being a small part.
Rewatch the performance of Spanish singer this year. Do you think THIS could possibly be lip synched?
1:38
That's not Switzerland. That's Vienna in 1967.
The one they showed no, but it's true the contest started In Switzerland in 1956. And I guess it'll be hard to show any pictures from the first contest as it was only broadcast on radio
Patryk Wieczorek Wiesz, archiwalne nagrania pierwszej zwyciężczyni, Lys Assia, są rzadkie, ale istnieją. Gorzej w przypadku gdzieś w latach 60., Gdy wygrała Gigiola Cinquetti, był pożar magazynu i ogromna ilość pamiątek z tamtego konkursu opiera się na nagraniach radiowych i kilku krótkich ocalałych fragmentach.
You know, archive videos of the very first winner, Lys Assia, are rare, but they still exist. Although there were hard times, somewhere in the 60s, when Gigiola Cinquetti won, there was a fire in some storage building, and all concert of that year is based on radio recordings and few very short, but recovered video fragments.
Z tego co czytałem istnieje tylko telewizyjne nagranie drugiego wykonania zwycięskej piosenki w 1956 roku, w końcu każdy zwycięzca wykonuje swoją piosenkę dwa razy. Co ciekawe w 1956 roku, na razie jedyny raz w konkursie, każdy wykonawca wykonywał dwie piosenki. Z tego co wiema druga piosenka Lys Assia z Eurowizji 1956, "Das alte Karussell" jest dostępna tylko w formie audio.
From what I read the video recording is only of the second performance of the winning song in 1956, as we know every winner performances the winning song twice. What is isnteresting is that in 1956, as far the only time, every singer sang two songs. From what I know the recording of Lys Assia's second songfrom Eurovision 1956 "Das alte Karussell" is only available as an audio recording.
LGBT rights... Israel.... Champion??? Oh gosh, she really needs to travel to some other countries... Is she a journalist or a housekeeping lady? Belgium and Luxembourg have had gay prime ministers, Netherlands was the first country to legalise gay marriage and adoption followed by many others in Europe in early 2000...
Nah, she probably thinks that only US has freedom and rights. Facepalming...
and Serbian PM too
But she is talking about fighting for LGBT rights on Eurovision. And Israel has never been known as a very modern country and it was quite shocking seeing the first transgender person participating coming from there. They changed the way LGBT rights are shown there
It is an Israeli channel, this is why they are talking about israel.
I am extremely happy this year 2017 the Portugal won the Eurovision through their native langue , and more to it, sending positive essentiel message to the whole world of better living... love, peace, poetry, tenderness, kindness through his music and his performance...and hopefully, we'll hear more and more original song of each country that taking part, that we could discover more and more beautiful languages of the European country....
what the fuck is American Idol?
it's like xfactor or the voice or a got talent show. Idols, pop idols, it's called different everywhere.
EUROVISION IS NOT A EUROPEAN VERSION OF AMERICAN IDOL
American Idol is just a show! We have these kind of show too. But Eurovision is a massive of creation, talent, all the Europeans and some non EU countries united all together, going in one direction. Music Celebration!!!
Both women tried to explain this very well but the guy... how many ignorant comments came out of his mouth per minute? I can understand that he had no idea about the contest and I could even forgive his "Super Bowl" comment but, the Conchita one? Ignorant!
Eurovivision happened long before and has always had way more credit than the Super Bowl. Seriously it shits me how much Americans know about their own country compared to the rest of the world, let alone to third world contries
First... I'm so glad America is not in it!
NO it's not like American Idol! OMG! And why are they only interested in Israel's contribution? And "the bearded lady"? It's a gay man in drag, who wore a DRESS not a night gown, and he can really sing! He deserved to win!
stiras1 i24 News is an Israeli network who broadcasts in French, Arabic and English. The English channel has some shows from their studios in New York city
Unlike most in the US, I am a bit familiar with Eurovision, and it is a shame on us that the show hasn't been on TV here over the years on a regular basis. Only one American has been a winner, Katrina Leskanich of Katrina and the Waves in 1997, and, of course, the rest of the band is from the UK. That might be an answer. About the only winner most would recognize is ABBA, from 1974. "Waterloo" opened the door for their success. Sir Cliff Richard didn't hit until the mid-70's. Some winners do get records released in the US, especially if they're in English (multilingualism just doesn't seem to be our thing). Johnny Logan, Bucks Fizz and Brotherhood of Man all tried, with little success. Even the Waves' "Love Shine a Light" barely made a peep. There is nothing like it here; "Idol", "The Voice" and "X Factor", all based on UK shows, are the closest we have, though 'talent shows' have existed back to the days of network radio in the 1940's. Eurovision is unique, and underappreciated in the States. We have our own political circus over here, but it has little to do with music.
RJ Mc Allister - the problem is, that USA missed the point in the '50s to join the Eurovision. If they did, Eurovision would be in USA as popular as it is here in Europe and in Australia (even in China, Thailand etc. they watch the show) ....the interest in Asia is so big, that they will make their own Eurovison Asia Song contest .....starting in October 2018.
If this "journalist" saw some images of Venice (Italy) with its canals and buildings, he would say that that place it's the European version of The Venetian Hotel of Las Vegas.
Eurovision is nothing close to American idol, it is 50% the judges & 50% televoting from all participating countries, it gives a lot of opportunities for smaller countries & artists but also shows the huge diverse culture of Europe and is something to be proud of. It brings people together, it showcases culture, languages, various ethnicities, genders, sexualities and so on. Many europeans will have learned about geography & culture growing up watching Eurovision and from there people do their research etc and it truly is an amazing experience for all participating countries to be proud of! #Eurovision
Don't amaricans know other countries have Idol too? (And x-factor and the voice)
Honestly I don't think most of us...
Pop Idol was a copycat show of Popstars, from New Zealand around 1999. Simon Fuller took the format and created Pop Idol in 2001. Cowell was just a judge on Idol. He took the format for his own X-Factor and to an extent also Britains Got Talent. Cowell wasn't the over critical judge on Idol, that was 'Nasty Nigel' Lythgoe. Judging panel pop shows no doubt go back a few decades before Popstars
The guy is so ignorant and didn't even try to understand the point of the competition. It's nothing like American idol.
Always love to see how Europe/EBU (because Eurovision isn't exactly a synonym for Europe!) unite against the USA.
My ears really hurts.
"It's like American Idol"
1 sentence in, already fucked it up xD
Whatever about Australia being in Eurovision but I don't think I could stand if America was in it
"bearded lady in a nightgown" oh that poor man..doesn't even know what a nightgown is
Oh man. The presenter said that they don’t envy Eurovision because they have American idol and Got Talen. Well in Europe we have Got talent as well. And American idol and Eurovision are years light. I would say the best show in the world is Eurovision.
Eurovision is definitely NOT like american idol. But the other thing that annoyed me A LOT was that when the anchorman asked who she thought it was going to win she said Italy because they have a dancing ape and he's like "oh god, these weird europeans "... Gabbani's song was meant to be also fun and catchy, but there is more about it, it's not only "a dancing ape on a stage". They want to make it look like some sort of freak show, "who's gonna vote for a bearded lady in a nightgown?", well a lot of people since she won? Actually watch the show, instead of spreading completely wrong facts about it or trying to make it look stupid.
I find that every american contest, like singing or sport that only for themselves, they always call themselves "the best of the world".
They really need to open their minds, get involved to the rest of the world, telling them that they are not alone
It's weird that America is only getting "kinda into it" so recently, I mean, we live in the 21st century with social media and youtube right? It's only since about last year that eurovision is mentioned on popular american talk shows, TV stations and the REACT channel on youtube...
Mericans in general have very little interest of things outside their borders, and they often seem to have a hard time grasping cultural differences without thinking everything that is new to them is 'weird'.
Well Eurovision was only showed live for the first on an American Chanel last year, which explains the "sudden" curiosity from som Americans. (And I know everybody is also saying, but this isn't the Europen version of American Idol??? At all? WTFH???
Ya but that doesn't mean everyone has to bash them for it
no...they should all get medals !
No, just dont scream at them for not knowing something
It's like American Idol?????????? Oh my God....
Aren't Broadcasters supposed to be intelligent? Especially being able to talk sensitively and intelligently about modern topics?
"Dana International, of course, that was the winner from Israel that was a transgender."
"a transgender". Basic grammar.
I do love the comment section. How three people managed to piss of an entire continent!!
I know the reason Americans don’t know about it. It’s because it’s the most inclusive event of the year. It doesn’t matter your nationality, your colour, your sexual orientation, how you dress, what language you sing in. Come in, join us, dance and sing to the good songs, laugh at the awful ones, wave your flag with pride and shout at the voting. It’s the same which ever country in Europe you watch it in. We love it.
The male presenter seems so ignorant and rude. Is it just because it's not an American event?
Europe's version of American Idol? WTF???
That man is so condascending. The women are much more open minded and just overall nice.
The favorite to win: "definitely Italy", but was in 6th position. The biggest winner was even Portugal after participating 53 times, as was also the country to reach the highest number of votes in the history of Eurovision, 758 points.
that's why we all love eurovision. winner is not easy to predict.
Eurovision is like UEFA Champions League!
American Idol is like National Soccer League!
The comparison is not possible at all!
We also have idols, the voice and X factor each country for themselves. Eurovision is the only big show where all countries are showing their candidate and we all vote for the one we like.
Stop saying American Idol, these are artists with established careers, not wanna be artists singing other people’s songs.
The guy was sooo ignorant. The first season of American idol was on June 11 2002. Eurovision started at May 24 1956 in Switzerland.
American Idol is like Eurovision.Americans,Eurovision started in 1956!
It is nothing like American idol!!! Lol Europe's countries each have their own idol
I would describe Eurovision as the Olympics of the musical world with everyone watching and rooting for their own country :)
Portugal brought sobriety back to Eurovision.
Sobral's sobriety
I was simply commenting on the similarity between the word 'sobriety' and the name Sobral. But I also agree.
Oh nice. I hadn't thought about that yet.
You are right, we can only hope now that the teens of today realise that music is not only pop and that there so much things that they can listen to. But unfortunately, they will only realise this when they reach the adult age, and by that time they will be even more similar pop songs than today.
I think this topic, that Sobral also touches gets understood in the wrong way. On one side I see people who enjoys classical music, perhaps they point at Beatles and how great music was in earlier times. On the other side you have every day music consumers who actually has their own musical taste and can actually speak for what they enjoy or not, perhaps without a fancy word for it.
Music is music.
No matter if you think it's crappy, overproduced or sold out, it's still music. And music evolves. Though the years people have discovered new ways of creating and sharing music. And people connect though music.
There is no way to reach good music. I can be technically skilled, but people still want the emotional touch. I will never discriminate to put pop as something less worth than let's say Mozart. Mozart was good at writing music. He did tons of pieces. And some of them are rubbish. And some of them are fantastic. Just like pop music. Beatles made over 300 songs. Yes, some of them are classic. And some of them are rubbish.
You can prefer a special sound, a special genre, or a special musician. This does not mean the other people are wrong. Just like when I say some songs or compositions are rubbish. That's my opinion. Just like when other people say pop music is rubbish. You can feel free to think like that. Just don't believe it's the only truth. Because music taste is subjective. If you don't like pop music, well then you perhaps haven't heard the right tune for you yet. Just like you could say about classical music, or folk music, or hiphop, or sacral music, or drum step, or madrigals, or jazz, or techno, or Schlager music, or EDM, or opera, or reggae, or musicals, or afropop, or rock music, or beatbox music, or punk music, or modern art music... and the list just goes on
Wait until they discover Australia's now participating and watch the confusion over the contest deepen...
I know everyone talks about being irritated about then calling it similar to American idol, but notice how much they talk about Russia and other political problems. Why do they even bring stuff like that up, when it doesn’t even help explain, just makes it look like some political agenda shit that only Europeans do. Also how they specifically talk about the superbowl a few times. They do realise that eurovision attracts to a lot of countries and that the superbowl is majorly an American thing right?
I mean what it looks to me like what they’re doing is that they have to talk about it but like show how weird and bad this show is that the Europeans made, and that stuff like the superbowl is better because it’s American. Idk that’s just how I feel.
Its not a competition between nations, its the opposite , celebrating the diversity of all the countries from Europe
European version of American Idol??? LOOOOOOOOOLLLLL. Ridiculous.
Wow, the level of delusion. ESC is a competition that has existed since 1958 where artist across the European continent compete with ORIGINAL songs - while over 200 million people are watching around the world. American Idol, on the other hand, is a rip-off of "Pop Idol" (UK, 2001-2003) where wannabe-artist perform song covers (karaoke) for an TV audience of approximately 8 million people. Please, do NOT compare these shows again.
Proud of my Europe,proud of Eurovision Song Contest
What annoyed me the most, is the fact that the person explaining things (in a very good way to be honest), was simply cut off ... remind me to never watch US television news once again ...
I hate how they always use conchita as a messege, the song is fucking amazing. I just love the old charm the song has