My favorite thing about watching Sam make 3D printed models is that he's cognizant of his past complaints during reviews and does his best to make sure he's consistent with his important points when he makes his own trains!
haha I do my best! Not going to pretend that any of this stuff would get a good review from me though... at least not until I get a resin printer ;) Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hiya Sam: As I remember from traveling British rail in the 60s, all the toilets I encountered literally flushed (Well....'dropped') directly onto the tracks. You could actually see the sleepers blurring past beneath the hole. There was also a well remembered sign above warning you NOT to use the toilet whilst at a station...!!!! I'm guessing the result was a kilometre long 'splat' along the tracks somewhere out in the countryside...Just FYI.... Great video as always! Cheers
@Ralph Freeman Yes….I remember trying to learn them during my traumatic youth in the English school system. Luckily I now reside in a more enlightened place that made a full transition to metric in the 60s. So metres and kilos it will be!! Please….feel free to revert to cubits if you wish….🤣😂🤣😂
Last trains with open toilets in UK was withdrawn in... 2021 (HST sets with mk3 coaches - by East Midlands Railway) This toilets was modernized, so You cannot see tracks anymore. Company using this rolling stock must pay "poo per mile" charge to rail infrastructure operator.
From my experience with 3D printers I suggest to print the sides of the body separately, flat on the side on the printer bed, and glue them together when all 4 sides and the interior with the underside is done. It is how I did some of the houses/sheds for my daughter's horse ranch and those looked much better with this technique, avoiding the issues with stringing and bridging, the flat surfaces on the sides looked much better when printed this way. Hope this helps. Keep up the good work, I enjoy watching your videos.
Thanks for that Peter - yeah I've heard of this being done too! I don't know - I just like the idea of printing all in one go - and when I'm ready to make something ultra serious, I can reduce the layer height and slow things right down... pretty sure they'll look good that way! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hey Sam, May I suggest that you alter your 3-D prints by moving the NEM socket inward more so that the coaches do not have such a glaring opening between each other.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t they also use the break compartment to store baggage and luggage too? So I think racks for boxes and bags would be a good addition. But ultimately it’s your design so do whatever you like. Stay safe & have fun Sam!
Very good. There are three rules you need to abide by. 1. Make sure the room you are in is well ventilated 2. Wear a pair of plastic working gloves so you don't get any paint on your fingers 3. Wear a pair of goggles; you must protect your eyes while working I've got this on one of my model railway DVDs.
You're at the level to make a simple diesel shunter or box tank I think - assuming you designed it just to fit onto a pre-existing chassis anyway. Scratch building either is definitely also not beyond the range of your abilities if your maintenance skills are anything to go by. So definitely worth the challenge, just don't go in over your head.
Sam, you have more than enough ingenuity and skill to build your own chassis - 3D print to hold a bespoke gear train using salvaged (printed?) gears and how about using one of your ‘one minute’ motors! It is even possible to split a gear and glue onto a coach wheel axle - something it did re-wheeling an old Hornby Hymek. Look forward to seeing your complete powered train!
I don't know if you want to 3D print the gears as well, but since you already tried out a mini4wd motor (the Torque Tuned) I suggest trying out some Tamiya mini4wd gears for the main drivetrain (they're plastic, alright, but they come with their little shafts meaning you'll only need to add a slot for them in the chassis) and maybe slot car spur gears on the wheel axles if you can find a matching diameter combination (slot car gears use a small headless screw to tighen themselves on the axle so they won't slip)
I'm telling you, strongly consider making them to order! Maybe they are only train set quality, but that maybe good enough to get going! The only thing wrong really is the coupling distance. The passengers will have to long jump to move from car to car!😁
Excellent, well done. The rake of coaches with the small “baggage” car looks fantastic. Small steps then giants leaps, this was a big leap but most importantly you have raised to the challenge and enjoyed it. Looking forward to the next production run. Well done Sam, all very best Marc
In a guards compartment you can expect an emergency brake with a vacuum gauge above it as well as a seat, spare coupling and vacuum pipe and somewhere to store flags. You could even go as far as putting a guards bag on the floor! Hope this helps, nice video.
Very impressed with what you've been doing with your 3D printer. For a first attempt the coaches are a very good effort. A few suggestions: 1) The coaches look like they're riding a bit high. Perhaps recess the chassis a few mm for future efforts. Looking at some of my Hornby ones that's what they've done. You could check the height against a platform. 2) Make the interiors a separate slot in piece which would make painting them easier, especially if you wanted to make some parts such as the sink, toilet or seat cushions a different colour. 3) If you want to take them up to another level design them to allow fitting of an LED light strip. 4) Your chassis would also work well for a parcel/CCT van. N.B. How long are your coaches? Is the length dictated by the size of the printer bed? As a comparison my Hornby LNER teak lavatory coach, which is fairly short, is 210mm. Is it possible to print diagonally on the printer bed if you wish to make a slightly longer coach? Print suggestions: - How about a 3D printed platform? You could also add things like benches, bins, flower beds, ticket/vending machines, fences, luggage trolly, etc. Then try some buildings such as workmans hut, signal box, a branch line station building, etc. Perhaps try making slot together pieces like Linka so you can make a variety of structures using the same parts? Great video as always keep up the good work!
Thanks so much for the tips! They do ride a little high - but it'd be quite involved to fix it, as I'd need to alter the chassis framework so as to stop the wheel-flanges fouling on it. Separate interiors is a good shout - definitely easier for painting! Lighting would be great - I could design a pickup bogie quite easily! 210mm would be absolutely fine - particularly on the Mingda - that'd be great fun to try! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
These turned out amazingly, good job! I have another possible challenge if you would like to try it; designing an original class of steam loco that doesn't exist in real life. You can use the wheels, rods, and mechanism from pre-existing models to make that part a little easier, but you get bonus points if you print out your own gears and only source the wheels, rods, and motor from a pre-existing model. It can be either a tank or tender engine, or you could design and print one of each for a bit more challenge.
Thank you so much! That's exactly what I'm hoping to do next - though I'll be making the chassis from scratch, except for the motor and maybe the gears of course! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Really brilliant and very inspirational stuff. I'm really going to have to find space for a 3D printer in my flat somehow. Your next guards-van coach is going to need lookouts, though. Either duckets on the sides, or a 'birdcage' on the roof. Birdcages were common until the early twentieth century. Glazing the karzi should be easy. Cut a piece of tissue, and fix it on the inside of the 'glass' by generous application of Liquid Poly or Mek-Pak. If you use ordinary two-ply Kleenex or similar, separate the plies and only use one thickness. Works a treat.
Ta very much David - it's well worth it... I've had a real blast with mine! Ahh duckets would be wonderful - great suggestion that! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Yes, with often a corner basin just large enough to get your hands in below the hot and cold taps, I doubt any vehicle like this ever saw a monobloc, still, I'm not designing them so kiudos to Sam.
Hi Sam, some other things that would be in a guards compartment: Electric lighting controls, Leaflet shelving, The guard themself, The guards bags and things, There is sometimes a little Cupboard underneath the bench but that may be hard to model, There could also be some stuff on the window frames. It would be cool if you modeled people inside the coach next time! Thanks Gablees Railway
Wow. I am very impressed. You have done a great job. You have inspired me to take up 3d printing. If I might suggest a challenge: A horse van. Hornby had made one which is no longer available. The challenge would be to make doors that open on each side to become ramps for the horses. Could also have a half interior wall between the two stalls. The hinges might be made from length cut from a paperclip then glued onto the door. Are your larger coaches available for purchase? Are your smaller coaches available for purchase? I thought the smaller coaches could look very good with the Stephenson's Rocket. Thanks for a really great video.
very impressive. i have enjoyed your 3D printing/producing videos quite a lot. its great to see the thought process that goes into them from start to finish.
Nice work Sam, your rake looks great! A couple of suggestions if I may: 1. Reduce the size of the windows - I think they are too big for that style of coach. 2. Incorporate a horizontal dividing line/strip into the coach-side design (if you don't already have one...) so that it is easy to mask off, then paint the coaches 2-tone!
Suggestion: Make a long-distance train with coaches that have sleeping cabins and a galley. This also means that the coaches would need to allow passengers to get from one coach to another.
These look really good! For the brake coach, I would suggest fitting a door between the corridor and the guard’s compartment so they can walk up and down the train en route
They do look very good :) I feel like they seat blue seating. Regarding the guard's compartment, they would have been used to carry goods, and while guard's vans had stoves, I'm not sure about compartments in coaches. A locomotive would be a challenge, but I suggest using a donor chassis rather than designing your own. Steam boilers would probably print best oriented upwards, and glued onto a separate cab to improve model quality.
Thank you so much Douglas - maybe the interiors should have been a separate part, then I could have painted more detail inside... just a bit tricky with them stuck in place! A stove is a very good idea - can't believe I didn't think of that! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Totally brilliant Sam, Your a natural at this. I wouldn't have a clue !!! Keep up the fabulous reviews and training sessions. Cheers, Rick the Bulldog.
I know that on the Mk I or Mk II brakes the guard's compartment had a small desk with a little rack for things like flags and possibly lamps. Maybe you could also add a few home comforts like a stove and radiator for those long trips?
Wow! Great job and you never know 'Sam's Models' in the future? Anyway, a good step to building a loco I would suggest is a compromise and build the GWR Steam Motor Coach, a good reference is preserved Motor Coach 93 at Didcot Railway. Great video!
Hey Sam, Seeing how great your 3D printed rolling stock I had an idea that you create a custom Sams Trains coach, brake van, wagon and sell it on your online shop. All the best! -Oliver
Once again, proof that you CAN in fact, design and make yourself more competent than some larger companies out there. Giving more weight to when you declare a coach or wagon has terrible wheels, couplings, tooling, etc... LOVE your 3D printing videos! Keep up the great work! :)
Nice idea of making little bits on the ends of the attachment points for the bogies to prevent body wobble, here in the US where most of our rolling stock uses bogies we use what is called a "Three point suspension" we tighten one bolster screw on one bogie to where it can freely turn but not go up and down but the other bogie is loose enough to move in all directions, this allows the car to not wobble but still give it enough play to make it over gradients and rough trackwork.
Looking superb! You can now make your own 'Warflats'... A couple of drops of black added to the main colour in your airbrush, will tone down any very bright colours.
These are excellent coaches you’ve made Sam, your making great progress in your 3D printing department. When your prints come out with all the stringy lines and what not a small file and fine grit sandpaper is really helpful for getting rid of all that hope this helps!
That was a lot of fun to watch, Sam, and I like the result. When you were worried about the satin varnish, my immediate thought was "If it doesn't work, get a rattlecan!" There are plenty of spray cans of varnish -- matt, satin or gloss -- available from both model and art paint suppliers. A tip: use acrylic rather than an oil-based paint because it doesn't yellow nearly as much. But since your varnish worked okay, you needn't worry about it. 😁
Very nice coaches you’ve made there Sam. All you need is a 1st-3rd composite or a full first class coach and you’d have a fine train! It looks a lot like something you’d see made for a pre-Grouping railway too. If you ever want to try taking on a coach with a flatter roof, I’d recommend you look at the North British Railway’s Holmes-designed non-corridor stock. They’re wonderful coaches that pull off the boxy look like a treat. Well done again, can’t wait to see what else you make in future.
Those models look incredible Sam, here's an idea how about making decals for some of these projects like create some logos, signs or name plates etc with using things like decal/transfer paper.
Those coaches look neat, i'd be happy with them, they're functional and certainly do look good, even though we all know they're 3D printed, i love seeing Sam's confidence soar when he produces these 3d models, i'm in awe.
Well, I'm impressed! These look very good, you've certainly developed a real proficiency with the 3D printer, and you'll soon be extending your airbrush skills to the weathering of freight trains, spraying stains and rust over oil tankers, and imitating coal dust and oil patches and drips around the undersides of your steam locos. Don't forget the grime around the exhaust grilles of your diesel fleet either. Great work, Sam!
Thanks so much John - it's been such a fun discipline to learn! I'd love to be good at weathering - maybe I'll try to learn that one day too! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It's actually astounding seeing someone make their own model trains with a 3D printer, it makes me want to give it a shot at making something like it! All in all, incredible job Sam, keep up the amazing content! Also, here's a suggestion for you're next video: Try to 3D print a model of the "Furness Railway K2 Locomotive" they are rather underapreciated and don't have any model of them neither by horby, dapol, bachman, lionel, etc. So i would really like to see you give a shot into making one. Fun Fact: The K2 Locos was the base model for Edward from Thomas & Friends.
Hi Sam. Don't be surprised if Hornby offer you a Contract of Employment to design rolling stock for them with a wage structure to die for. However, if they do, make sure you read the small print as it will probably contain a clause that states you must give all of their products a positive review with only 5 star ratings.
Sam. You could have sprayed them with an LNER teak coloured finish, as streaking caused by the printer would give the effect of the carriages being constructed of teak wood. Just a thought.
When you've got a bit more experience with 3D printing, could you make a GWR (originally Avonside) 1101 'Dock Tank'? I've got copies of the drawings and a 7.25" gauge model of one of these if you want pictures, and, of course, if you want to do this challenge!
Hi Sam, another enjoyable video, well done, I reckon somewhere down the line (no pun intended) you might be able to finish off the original printed bodies and add them to your rake
Hello 'Sam', really impressed with your 3d design/print ability, I was involved in 3D design 11years ago working for a mulit Billion $ company, its come a long way in very short time, well done. Regards. RichardA.
Great video, the coaches looks pretty good. Maybe add some lighting and some figures inside. But I think you have done a really good job. Next. Challenge 3D print a station or a engine shed? Keep up the great work
Without reading any comments here! I want you to know I have been doing 3d printing for 5 years have done many of my own designs and have had my share of compliments. And I think it's time. You should be Extremely proud of the job you did. It is no small feat going from design to print to a in hand model! My opinion Great Job!
Great video as always. Can i up the challenge a little bit more for you....... Make a "full length" 57 foot style bogie coach. Same rules as used here. Only need a single composite and a single brake coach for a local train. However, I will suggest 2 styles to choose from. Br mk 1s or suburban non corridor compartments. Plus as an added challenge design a 0 6 0 tender locomotive of your own design that fits a hornby "thomas" /jinty chassis. Good luck
Railroad engineering, design and production. All accomplished with aplomb. Sam, you are very talented and I for one am grateful you share your works. Thank you so much. One thing - at the risk of sounding critical - I would have put the bathroom at the other end of the train (please be laughing at this).
Absolutely fantastic Sam, I know the feeling of producing your own 3d printed parts, so your carriage project is brilliant. How about a replacement body for a hornby 0-4-0 loco, then you’ll have your own complete train. Well done a great project.
Thank you so much - always so much fun, even if the end product isn't as good as what you could buy! Absolutely - I'd love to try a loco some time! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great video, Sam. I'm new to your channel; just having a look and enjoying the variety of what you offer. Your foray into coach building reminds me of why I enjoy model railways and miniature wargaming: variety and DIY adventures. Thanks for uploading, and all the best from Aotearoa New Zealand!
hi sam. looking very good indeed. everything is a learning experience . but i would mix the paint first then put it in the airbrush.also molotove pens are very good for detail work. but a big well done. cheers tom.
Long and boring? Not at all! As of this Christmas, I am the proud owner of a Bambu Labs 3D printer. Also as of this Christmas, I have resurrected my HO trains from 50 years ago with an eye to sharing them with my grandkids. I also know SketchUp from designing furniture and remodeling my home, and I even have a nice airbrush setup. And now, in one video, you've brought it all together end-to-end. So we shall see whether I can achieve results comparable to yours. Thanks very much for this fun and instructional video!
Hello Sam, new subscriber here. Nice job you did with those coaches........one suggestion about the air brushing. When you want a brighter look to the colors, first spray either a reefer white or titanium white as a base or primer coat.
Another very enjoyable video Sam, I especially like seeing you use the Airbrush. FYI, your method for masking the door handles is very similar indeed to the paint process that (at least used to) be used by model manufactures. There is TH-cam footage from the old Graham Farish factory in Poole showing people painting locos with a mechanical mask just like yours. Ref the glazing; maybe you could look at doing a small recess on the inside of the coach sides, into which you could simply slide a single glazed piece? Maybe clear plasticard or even 3D printed (can you get clear material?). Best.
On the painting with the Brush idea I think the best one to use is a good quality thinking #00 Brush could do the handles. But you did right by doing the main body first before doing the handles. Like the mask you printed. Just be careful with using normal masking tape some can pull the paint off. Stick with the brand you using now if it has worked well but if you are having trouble try out Tamiya Masking tape thats worked well for me and is not to grabby.
for the brake coach, I really like the brake coaches from that era that had the little extensions with ticket windows on the sides. Those are just so cool to me.
Brake coaches usually have a desk and chair, handbrake, emergency brake and equipment, pigeon holes for paperwork, and double doors so parcels/large luggage can be stowed.
for being an englishman, there is no reason to worry about spending the most of the detailing time to create the toilet. Even as a german modelling/train enthusiast, I expected nothing less! great job! 😁👍
Sam the interior details of those coaches is incredible! Very nice work all around. I know its not your style but you gotta give yourself more credit hah =)
They look really good and 3D printers really intrigued me from someone who went to school in the 70s and never had computers or anything like that in my day I think they're brilliant
Fun project Sam, and surely it has been quite involved. I was 'shouting' to the screen "roofs seperately Sam", but you did hahah, and smartly so. You know what, finer details, which the printer can't handle in one go, could always be printed and fitted seperately, or one add other ready made fine parts. The printer itself could do the coach / box work and main outline of the chassis. We ourselved are sketching our layout plan. We don't like to glue ballast, so we will have to be creative as well to it make realistic but still modular and sturdy yet flexible without needing any cement. Ciao :)
haha yep - roofs definitely had to be separate! Yes the small separately fitted parts is a good idea, but getting the fits right is quite tricky with the 3D printers - they don't do small holes very consistently... quite a lot of tolerance! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
excellent work there Sam. They remind me partly of the GWR 40' Dean stock from about 1860 (there were both broad and standard gauge versions), and partly of some coaches from the same era built by the North London Railway . You asked what else would be in a brake van. Other fixtures would include tool boxes, a rack for other equipment such as safety axe, flags, detonators etc. There could be a secure cupboard or walled of area for mail or other valuable luggage. A few spare lamps, am oil can and most important of all a small wood burning stove so the guard could keep warm in winter and make his tea. (this would have a chimney and a vent on the roof) Hope your gonna make some more versions to extend the rake. How's about a full brake, a mail van with sorting racks, a first class version, a dining car? Also how about a little extra underframe detail, like a break cylinder or an oil / gas cylinder? Keep up the good work Jon
Ahh very interesting Jon - I'll have to look those up! Thanks for the extra info on the interior - might have to add some of this! Sure - I'd love to make more some day... or maybe a different rake with different coaches among it! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
One thing to check with your stringing and layer lines is your wiping, temperatures and accelerations. I'd try knocking the temp down around 3degC-5C and dropping your acceleration a wee bit as well. Obviously it's not perfect this way, but modding 3D printers is a very large rabbit hole. I'd recommend using layer lines in 0.2mm increments since that's divisible evenly by the motors, unlike odd numbers.
My favorite thing about watching Sam make 3D printed models is that he's cognizant of his past complaints during reviews and does his best to make sure he's consistent with his important points when he makes his own trains!
Ye Sam is one of the most consistent TH-camrs I've ever seen. Both in entertainment and his critisms.
haha I do my best! Not going to pretend that any of this stuff would get a good review from me though... at least not until I get a resin printer ;)
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I thought that, I'd love to see Sam design for a big brand!! 🤩
@@SamsTrains can we get download links to produce these prints
Hiya Sam: As I remember from traveling British rail in the 60s, all the toilets I encountered literally flushed (Well....'dropped') directly onto the tracks. You could actually see the sleepers blurring past beneath the hole. There was also a well remembered sign above warning you NOT to use the toilet whilst at a station...!!!!
I'm guessing the result was a kilometre long 'splat' along the tracks somewhere out in the countryside...Just FYI....
Great video as always!
Cheers
Yup - remember it well
@Ralph Freeman Yes….I remember trying to learn them during my traumatic youth in the English school system. Luckily I now reside in a more enlightened place that made a full transition to metric in the 60s. So metres and kilos it will be!! Please….feel free to revert to cubits if you wish….🤣😂🤣😂
If your splat is a kilometre long, you need to join the queue for a doctor. Splashes, however, are allowed to be that long...
Netherlands still uses that method on their modern trains. Perhaps the only thing the US rail services have going for them lmao
Last trains with open toilets in UK was withdrawn in... 2021 (HST sets with mk3 coaches - by East Midlands Railway)
This toilets was modernized, so You cannot see tracks anymore.
Company using this rolling stock must pay "poo per mile" charge to rail infrastructure operator.
Your first steam locomotive was a very attractive little model. Good luck with the coach challenge!!
From my experience with 3D printers I suggest to print the sides of the body separately, flat on the side on the printer bed, and glue them together when all 4 sides and the interior with the underside is done.
It is how I did some of the houses/sheds for my daughter's horse ranch and those looked much better with this technique, avoiding the issues with stringing and bridging, the flat surfaces on the sides looked much better when printed this way.
Hope this helps. Keep up the good work, I enjoy watching your videos.
Thanks for that Peter - yeah I've heard of this being done too! I don't know - I just like the idea of printing all in one go - and when I'm ready to make something ultra serious, I can reduce the layer height and slow things right down... pretty sure they'll look good that way!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hey Sam, May I suggest that you alter your 3-D prints by moving the NEM socket inward more so that the coaches do not have such a glaring opening between each other.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t they also use the break compartment to store baggage and luggage too? So I think racks for boxes and bags would be a good addition. But ultimately it’s your design so do whatever you like. Stay safe & have fun Sam!
Doors might have been useful on the brake compartment too
Very good. There are three rules you need to abide by.
1. Make sure the room you are in is well ventilated
2. Wear a pair of plastic working gloves so you don't get any paint on your fingers
3. Wear a pair of goggles; you must protect your eyes while working
I've got this on one of my model railway DVDs.
Very good advice Kelly, thanks for this! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
You're at the level to make a simple diesel shunter or box tank I think - assuming you designed it just to fit onto a pre-existing chassis anyway. Scratch building either is definitely also not beyond the range of your abilities if your maintenance skills are anything to go by. So definitely worth the challenge, just don't go in over your head.
I'm working on a loco next fingers crossed - and it will be scratch built if I do it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
How about a sadel tank
Sam, you have more than enough ingenuity and skill to build your own chassis - 3D print to hold a bespoke gear train using salvaged (printed?) gears and how about using one of your ‘one minute’ motors! It is even possible to split a gear and glue onto a coach wheel axle - something it did re-wheeling an old Hornby Hymek. Look forward to seeing your complete powered train!
@@SamsTrains only one small problem. if you're planning to make a 3D printed Loco, you'll need a motor for it.
I don't know if you want to 3D print the gears as well, but since you already tried out a mini4wd motor (the Torque Tuned) I suggest trying out some Tamiya mini4wd gears for the main drivetrain (they're plastic, alright, but they come with their little shafts meaning you'll only need to add a slot for them in the chassis) and maybe slot car spur gears on the wheel axles if you can find a matching diameter combination (slot car gears use a small headless screw to tighen themselves on the axle so they won't slip)
I'm telling you, strongly consider making them to order! Maybe they are only train set quality, but that maybe good enough to get going!
The only thing wrong really is the coupling distance. The passengers will have to long jump to move from car to car!😁
Excellent, well done. The rake of coaches with the small “baggage” car looks fantastic. Small steps then giants leaps, this was a big leap but most importantly you have raised to the challenge and enjoyed it. Looking forward to the next production run. Well done Sam, all very best Marc
In a guards compartment you can expect an emergency brake with a vacuum gauge above it as well as a seat, spare coupling and vacuum pipe and somewhere to store flags. You could even go as far as putting a guards bag on the floor!
Hope this helps, nice video.
You could also include a desk, at SVR we keep a diary to right down arrival and departure times, and also some pigeon holes for storing bits and bobs.
@@henryhughes9868 yeah, we have that at the ESR too
Hey Sam you should design some egg vans and watch them run better than Dapol’s
Lol that's a great idea!
haha I could totally make an egg van body for my frieght chassis actually - lol!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
*wheeeeze* XD
Very impressed with what you've been doing with your 3D printer. For a first attempt the coaches are a very good effort.
A few suggestions:
1) The coaches look like they're riding a bit high. Perhaps recess the chassis a few mm for future efforts. Looking at some of my Hornby ones that's what they've done. You could check the height against a platform.
2) Make the interiors a separate slot in piece which would make painting them easier, especially if you wanted to make some parts such as the sink, toilet or seat cushions a different colour.
3) If you want to take them up to another level design them to allow fitting of an LED light strip.
4) Your chassis would also work well for a parcel/CCT van.
N.B. How long are your coaches? Is the length dictated by the size of the printer bed? As a comparison my Hornby LNER teak lavatory coach, which is fairly short, is 210mm. Is it possible to print diagonally on the printer bed if you wish to make a slightly longer coach?
Print suggestions:
- How about a 3D printed platform? You could also add things like benches, bins, flower beds, ticket/vending machines, fences, luggage trolly, etc. Then try some buildings such as workmans hut, signal box, a branch line station building, etc. Perhaps try making slot together pieces like Linka so you can make a variety of structures using the same parts?
Great video as always keep up the good work!
Thanks so much for the tips!
They do ride a little high - but it'd be quite involved to fix it, as I'd need to alter the chassis framework so as to stop the wheel-flanges fouling on it.
Separate interiors is a good shout - definitely easier for painting!
Lighting would be great - I could design a pickup bogie quite easily!
210mm would be absolutely fine - particularly on the Mingda - that'd be great fun to try!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
These turned out amazingly, good job! I have another possible challenge if you would like to try it; designing an original class of steam loco that doesn't exist in real life. You can use the wheels, rods, and mechanism from pre-existing models to make that part a little easier, but you get bonus points if you print out your own gears and only source the wheels, rods, and motor from a pre-existing model. It can be either a tank or tender engine, or you could design and print one of each for a bit more challenge.
Thank you so much! That's exactly what I'm hoping to do next - though I'll be making the chassis from scratch, except for the motor and maybe the gears of course!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thank you for showing us. It is very inspiring to see you develop your skills.
Really brilliant and very inspirational stuff. I'm really going to have to find space for a 3D printer in my flat somehow.
Your next guards-van coach is going to need lookouts, though. Either duckets on the sides, or a 'birdcage' on the roof. Birdcages were common until the early twentieth century.
Glazing the karzi should be easy. Cut a piece of tissue, and fix it on the inside of the 'glass' by generous application of Liquid Poly or Mek-Pak. If you use ordinary two-ply Kleenex or similar, separate the plies and only use one thickness. Works a treat.
Ta very much David - it's well worth it... I've had a real blast with mine! Ahh duckets would be wonderful - great suggestion that!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The most luxurious coach toilet I’ve ever seen, usually there is just enough room to walk in shut the door and sit down!
Yes, with often a corner basin just large enough to get your hands in below the hot and cold taps, I doubt any vehicle like this ever saw a monobloc, still, I'm not designing them so kiudos to Sam.
Hi Sam, some other things that would be in a guards compartment:
Electric lighting controls,
Leaflet shelving,
The guard themself,
The guards bags and things,
There is sometimes a little Cupboard underneath the bench but that may be hard to model,
There could also be some stuff on the window frames.
It would be cool if you modeled people inside the coach next time!
Thanks
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Wow. I am very impressed. You have done a great job. You have inspired me to take up 3d printing. If I might suggest a challenge: A horse van. Hornby had made one which is no longer available. The challenge would be to make doors that open on each side to become ramps for the horses. Could also have a half interior wall between the two stalls. The hinges might be made from length cut from a paperclip then glued onto the door. Are your larger coaches available for purchase? Are your smaller coaches available for purchase? I thought the smaller coaches could look very good with the Stephenson's Rocket. Thanks for a really great video.
Seconding the horse van challenge, some of them had quite a complex interior with feed bags, stalls, seating for grooms and an onboard toilet.
very impressive. i have enjoyed your 3D printing/producing videos quite a lot. its great to see the thought process that goes into them from start to finish.
Nice work Sam, your rake looks great! A couple of suggestions if I may: 1. Reduce the size of the windows - I think they are too big for that style of coach. 2. Incorporate a horizontal dividing line/strip into the coach-side design (if you don't already have one...) so that it is easy to mask off, then paint the coaches 2-tone!
A tip The gaurd often sorts mail in the brake coach. Hi from Denmark
These coaches look great. Great job sam
Thank you so much!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This video was very well done as was the project. You should be extremely proud of your efforts. Looking forward to your next video.
I love the variety of your channel, all your video are put together so nicely and are always fun to watch!!
Suggestion: Make a long-distance train with coaches that have sleeping cabins and a galley. This also means that the coaches would need to allow passengers to get from one coach to another.
Love the 3D coaches. The design feels very Victorian. Hope you print more coaches so that you can make longer train lengths:)
These look really good! For the brake coach, I would suggest fitting a door between the corridor and the guard’s compartment so they can walk up and down the train en route
They do look very good :) I feel like they seat blue seating. Regarding the guard's compartment, they would have been used to carry goods, and while guard's vans had stoves, I'm not sure about compartments in coaches.
A locomotive would be a challenge, but I suggest using a donor chassis rather than designing your own. Steam boilers would probably print best oriented upwards, and glued onto a separate cab to improve model quality.
Thank you so much Douglas - maybe the interiors should have been a separate part, then I could have painted more detail inside... just a bit tricky with them stuck in place!
A stove is a very good idea - can't believe I didn't think of that!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Thanks Sam. Your ambition for this was wonderful.
Man If these CADS were publicly available I would love to have a consist of these. For a fun project these look amazing!
Thanks Joel! I might look at doing that some time! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Totally brilliant Sam, Your a natural at this. I wouldn't have a clue !!! Keep up the fabulous reviews and training sessions. Cheers, Rick the Bulldog.
Very impressive Sam! You’re gettin’ better and better!
We’ll make a model manufacturer of you yetL
Well done Sam, brilliant video and look forward to seeing you design and print an engine of some description
Great video and yes they look great. Please keep this great series of scratch building coming. 3D printing has come a long way. All the best
I know that on the Mk I or Mk II brakes the guard's compartment had a small desk with a little rack for things like flags and possibly lamps. Maybe you could also add a few home comforts like a stove and radiator for those long trips?
Wow! Great job and you never know 'Sam's Models' in the future? Anyway, a good step to building a loco I would suggest is a compromise and build the GWR Steam Motor Coach, a good reference is preserved Motor Coach 93 at Didcot Railway. Great video!
Sam: I’m not at the level to make a loco yet: 20 years later Sam’s trains has produced over 4000 models and is now coming on bachmans radar
haha never say never, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hey Sam, Seeing how great your 3D printed rolling stock I had an idea that you create a custom Sams Trains coach, brake van, wagon and sell it on your online shop. All the best! -Oliver
He should do a tour brakevan 0_0
Awesome Oliver! I have designed a brakevan actually - it will be available for members one day hopefully! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Once again, proof that you CAN in fact, design and make yourself more competent than some larger companies out there. Giving more weight to when you declare a coach or wagon has terrible wheels, couplings, tooling, etc... LOVE your 3D printing videos! Keep up the great work! :)
I can imagine, April 1st 2022, not Sam reviewing the latest model from Sam’s trains…
I love 3D printed stuff especially hornby it’s so cool that u can do this great video :)
Thanks very much Toby - it is super cool that you can do this, agreed! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Nice idea of making little bits on the ends of the attachment points for the bogies to prevent body wobble, here in the US where most of our rolling stock uses bogies we use what is called a "Three point suspension" we tighten one bolster screw on one bogie to where it can freely turn but not go up and down but the other bogie is loose enough to move in all directions, this allows the car to not wobble but still give it enough play to make it over gradients and rough trackwork.
Absolutely outstanding 🤩👏 well done Sam, it was a joy to watch and the outcome was fantastic! You have a real talent there!
Looking superb! You can now make your own 'Warflats'...
A couple of drops of black added to the main colour in your airbrush, will tone down any very bright colours.
17:31 sure Sam the toilet will be MUD BROWN
These are excellent coaches you’ve made Sam, your making great progress in your 3D printing department. When your prints come out with all the stringy lines and what not a small file and fine grit sandpaper is really helpful for getting rid of all that hope this helps!
These are awesome they look really good
That was a lot of fun to watch, Sam, and I like the result. When you were worried about the satin varnish, my immediate thought was "If it doesn't work, get a rattlecan!" There are plenty of spray cans of varnish -- matt, satin or gloss -- available from both model and art paint suppliers. A tip: use acrylic rather than an oil-based paint because it doesn't yellow nearly as much. But since your varnish worked okay, you needn't worry about it. 😁
Very nice coaches you’ve made there Sam. All you need is a 1st-3rd composite or a full first class coach and you’d have a fine train!
It looks a lot like something you’d see made for a pre-Grouping railway too. If you ever want to try taking on a coach with a flatter roof, I’d recommend you look at the North British Railway’s Holmes-designed non-corridor stock. They’re wonderful coaches that pull off the boxy look like a treat.
Well done again, can’t wait to see what else you make in future.
Those models look incredible Sam, here's an idea how about making decals for some of these projects like create some logos, signs or name plates etc with using things like decal/transfer paper.
Those coaches look neat, i'd be happy with them, they're functional and certainly do look good, even though we all know they're 3D printed, i love seeing Sam's confidence soar when he produces these 3d models, i'm in awe.
I’d suggest for the brake coach remove a seating compartment and have double doors each side for goods/luggage.
That's a very good idea Dominic - might have to revise the design on that one then!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I always enjoy watching your 3d protect and looking forward to see what you do next.
Well, I'm impressed! These look very good, you've certainly developed a real proficiency with the 3D printer, and you'll soon be extending your airbrush skills to the weathering of freight trains, spraying stains and rust over oil tankers, and imitating coal dust and oil patches and drips around the undersides of your steam locos. Don't forget the grime around the exhaust grilles of your diesel fleet either. Great work, Sam!
Thanks so much John - it's been such a fun discipline to learn! I'd love to be good at weathering - maybe I'll try to learn that one day too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
You are very good at this 3d printing. I love these. Awesome video. I really need myself one of these printers.
Well done Sam, you can see your getting more confident 👏, looking forward to see what you come up with next.
It's actually astounding seeing someone make their own model trains with a 3D printer, it makes me want to give it a shot at making something like it! All in all, incredible job Sam, keep up the amazing content!
Also, here's a suggestion for you're next video: Try to 3D print a model of the "Furness Railway K2 Locomotive" they are rather underapreciated and don't have any model of them neither by horby, dapol, bachman, lionel, etc. So i would really like to see you give a shot into making one.
Fun Fact: The K2 Locos was the base model for Edward from Thomas & Friends.
Well Sam, now you have a proper carriage for your Railway Children set! Great work Sam.
I really like your 3D series of video's. Well done mate. Keep them coming. Your content is very good. Regards
Hi Sam.
Don't be surprised if Hornby offer you a Contract of Employment to design rolling stock for them with a wage structure to die for. However, if they do, make sure you read the small print as it will probably contain a clause that states you must give all of their products a positive review with only 5 star ratings.
Sam.
You could have sprayed them with an LNER teak coloured finish, as streaking caused by the printer would give the effect of the carriages being constructed of teak wood. Just a thought.
You should make a mail van to go with those coaches. (4 wheeled one to be precise)
When you've got a bit more experience with 3D printing, could you make a GWR (originally Avonside) 1101 'Dock Tank'? I've got copies of the drawings and a 7.25" gauge model of one of these if you want pictures, and, of course, if you want to do this challenge!
Well, I'd love to see that! Hope Sam sees that!
If anything else, there's also OO Neal who actually made a locomotive completely from scratch with 3D-printed parts.
That would be awesome, thanks very much Toby! Always fancied one of those! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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Hi Sam, another enjoyable video, well done, I reckon somewhere down the line (no pun intended) you might be able to finish off the original printed bodies and add them to your rake
Hello 'Sam', really impressed with your 3d design/print ability, I was involved in 3D design 11years ago working for a mulit Billion $ company, its come a long way in very short time, well done. Regards. RichardA.
Great video, the coaches looks pretty good. Maybe add some lighting and some figures inside. But I think you have done a really good job. Next. Challenge 3D print a station or a engine shed? Keep up the great work
I am stunned by this. Never thought I’d see Sam making a line of passenger cars like this, but I’ve been proven wrong in the biggest way
Without reading any comments here! I want you to know I have been doing 3d printing for 5 years have done many of my own designs and have had my share of compliments. And I think it's time. You should be Extremely proud of the job you did. It is no small feat going from design to print to a in hand model! My opinion Great Job!
Great video as always. Can i up the challenge a little bit more for you....... Make a "full length" 57 foot style bogie coach. Same rules as used here. Only need a single composite and a single brake coach for a local train. However, I will suggest 2 styles to choose from. Br mk 1s or suburban non corridor compartments. Plus as an added challenge design a 0 6 0 tender locomotive of your own design that fits a hornby "thomas" /jinty chassis. Good luck
Railroad engineering, design and production. All accomplished with aplomb. Sam, you are very talented and I for one am grateful you share your works. Thank you so much.
One thing - at the risk of sounding critical - I would have put the bathroom at the other end of the train (please be laughing at this).
Absolutely fantastic Sam, I know the feeling of producing your own 3d printed parts, so your carriage project is brilliant. How about a replacement body for a hornby 0-4-0 loco, then you’ll have your own complete train.
Well done a great project.
Thank you so much - always so much fun, even if the end product isn't as good as what you could buy! Absolutely - I'd love to try a loco some time! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great job Sam, really enjoyed watching the project. the coaches look really good!
Thanks very much David - really glad you liked them! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I love your 3d printing Videos! They're simply fantastic! You should make some real rolling stock next! Maybe some modern trains?
Sam, you are never boring - great job
Very impressive Sam. The interiors look great, the paint isn't bad and the fact you did the glazing was just over the top cool. Loving this series.
Thanks so much Steven! Yeah thought the glazing would be a nice finishing touch! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Great video, Sam. I'm new to your channel; just having a look and enjoying the variety of what you offer. Your foray into coach building reminds me of why I enjoy model railways and miniature wargaming: variety and DIY adventures. Thanks for uploading, and all the best from Aotearoa New Zealand!
Nice Sam looks great! They look like the ones which have the and metal wheels
hi sam. looking very good indeed. everything is a learning experience . but i would mix the paint first then put it in the airbrush.also molotove pens are very good for detail work. but a big well done. cheers tom.
Nice job, there's a lot of detail in those coaches. I should send you the files for the search light car that I made.
Long and boring? Not at all! As of this Christmas, I am the proud owner of a Bambu Labs 3D printer. Also as of this Christmas, I have resurrected my HO trains from 50 years ago with an eye to sharing them with my grandkids. I also know SketchUp from designing furniture and remodeling my home, and I even have a nice airbrush setup. And now, in one video, you've brought it all together end-to-end. So we shall see whether I can achieve results comparable to yours. Thanks very much for this fun and instructional video!
love this! I think I might have to follow your example one day :P
Hello Sam, new subscriber here. Nice job you did with those coaches........one suggestion about the air brushing. When you want a brighter look to the colors, first spray either a reefer white or titanium white as a base or primer coat.
Another very enjoyable video Sam, I especially like seeing you use the Airbrush.
FYI, your method for masking the door handles is very similar indeed to the paint process that (at least used to) be used by model manufactures.
There is TH-cam footage from the old Graham Farish factory in Poole showing people painting locos with a mechanical mask just like yours.
Ref the glazing; maybe you could look at doing a small recess on the inside of the coach sides, into which you could simply slide a single glazed piece? Maybe clear plasticard or even 3D printed (can you get clear material?).
Best.
On the painting with the Brush idea I think the best one to use is a good quality thinking #00 Brush could do the handles. But you did right by doing the main body first before doing the handles. Like the mask you printed.
Just be careful with using normal masking tape some can pull the paint off. Stick with the brand you using now if it has worked well but if you are having trouble try out Tamiya Masking tape thats worked well for me and is not to grabby.
A few decals will make a perfect finish. Good job.
This is awesome. Now we can print Victoria and Helena.
Btw, this is an awesome design.
Excellent, thank you for taking in my request. :)
You have come a long way with 3D printing. Very well done, Sam!
Thank you so much! It's turned into my favourite part of the hobby, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
In a word BRILLIANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers Greg
for the brake coach, I really like the brake coaches from that era that had the little extensions with ticket windows on the sides. Those are just so cool to me.
Yes I very much like that too - might have to add some of those to the next one! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam you are getting better and better at this 3D printing stuff.
Thank you so much - I'm trying to improve as best I can! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Brake coaches usually have a desk and chair, handbrake, emergency brake and equipment, pigeon holes for paperwork, and double doors so parcels/large luggage can be stowed.
for being an englishman, there is no reason to worry about spending the most of the detailing time to create the toilet. Even as a german modelling/train enthusiast, I expected nothing less! great job! 😁👍
Sam the interior details of those coaches is incredible! Very nice work all around. I know its not your style but you gotta give yourself more credit hah =)
They look really good and 3D printers really intrigued me from someone who went to school in the 70s and never had computers or anything like that in my day I think they're brilliant
I know!! I grew up with computers... and I still think these are brilliant! Best toy I've ever owned!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
For an older-style brake coach, consider putting a ducket on one or both sides of the guard's compartment.
Fun project Sam, and surely it has been quite involved. I was 'shouting' to the screen "roofs seperately Sam", but you did hahah, and smartly so. You know what, finer details, which the printer can't handle in one go, could always be printed and fitted seperately, or one add other ready made fine parts. The printer itself could do the coach / box work and main outline of the chassis.
We ourselved are sketching our layout plan. We don't like to glue ballast, so we will have to be creative as well to it make realistic but still modular and sturdy yet flexible without needing any cement. Ciao :)
haha yep - roofs definitely had to be separate! Yes the small separately fitted parts is a good idea, but getting the fits right is quite tricky with the 3D printers - they don't do small holes very consistently... quite a lot of tolerance!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
excellent work there Sam. They remind me partly of the GWR 40' Dean stock from about 1860 (there were both broad and standard gauge versions), and partly of some coaches from the same era built by the North London Railway .
You asked what else would be in a brake van. Other fixtures would include tool boxes, a rack for other equipment such as safety axe, flags, detonators etc. There could be a secure cupboard or walled of area for mail or other valuable luggage. A few spare lamps, am oil can and most important of all a small wood burning stove so the guard could keep warm in winter and make his tea. (this would have a chimney and a vent on the roof)
Hope your gonna make some more versions to extend the rake. How's about a full brake, a mail van with sorting racks, a first class version, a dining car? Also how about a little extra underframe detail, like a break cylinder or an oil / gas cylinder?
Keep up the good work
Jon
Ahh very interesting Jon - I'll have to look those up! Thanks for the extra info on the interior - might have to add some of this! Sure - I'd love to make more some day... or maybe a different rake with different coaches among it!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
One thing to check with your stringing and layer lines is your wiping, temperatures and accelerations. I'd try knocking the temp down around 3degC-5C and dropping your acceleration a wee bit as well. Obviously it's not perfect this way, but modding 3D printers is a very large rabbit hole. I'd recommend using layer lines in 0.2mm increments since that's divisible evenly by the motors, unlike odd numbers.
That red is good for a crimson and cream coach. It was also a colour used in the early days of British Railways.