well.... considering poor Ifrit can only be level 6 and has 1068 hp.... it's more like: *glacial eye wanders in* Ifrit: oh shit oh shit oh shit i hope it doesnt come too close....
I actually used to do this back when I was a kid because it was back in the days where you could only buy games like once a year so I would play the living HELL out of games. It was fun times. It's great to see someone finally making a video about this.
@rodneyhorsley8601 What's hard to believe? I also wanted to become as powerful as possible before ifrit even began as a kid. What's the best way to become powerful in this game? Junctioning and not leveling. How do you make junctioning more useful? Better magic. How do you get better magic? Card refining. It's not some big mystery. It's just time consuming. Not sure if I ever completed it. But I def got some high level magic before I went and beat ifrit.
@@rodneyhorsley8601 - Loads of people did this. It's literally how you play this game. Do you really think that TH-cam content creators were the first to do anything in older games? I figured out how to get Lionheart early on before I even knew anyone else that did it. Me and my friends were min-maxing and speed-running games before we even knew that those terms existed. The internet didn't exist back then.
@@rodneyhorsley8601 I have done similar things before. As a kid, I got max level before finishing the level forest in Mystic Quest(it is the first dungeon, I think). It didn't take 70+ hours, but it took an unreasonably long time, and I only did it because why the heck not? I'm a kid, I have no responsibilities. As for ff8, what was shown in this video wasn't complicated. While I didn't go quite as far as he did, and I didn't limit myself to doing it before Ifrit, I did get level 100 extremely early in the game, just for fun.
I think the biggest kick in the teeth is if you card mod the sandsharks you still get the ap and lose the exp. So you could keep yourself low level and walk through the whole game with high level junctions and bonus summon ap abilities like +60% str
That's a benefit. I believe the only way to get perfect stats with perfect magic absorption is by staying at beginning level with everyone. GFs give permanent stat bonuses if they're equipped during level up. I don't remember the spell maybe it was meltdown but to get 255 stats in one field you needed it there but to get good absorption in elemental defense you needed it there. So, there was a sacrifice. But, if you stayed level 7, then used GF stat bonuses to dump 93 points into that stat, you could still hit 255 with another crappier junction and move that spell to the absorption line and there would no longer be any sacrifice.
@@Valerius123 or the sick way, is to use devour and str-ups, vit-ups, hp-up and such to increase your stats to the maximum without using the best magic (you could even increase it to maximum without junctions but is way too much grind), and use ultima and other spells to make you virtually immune to damage using them in elem-jct.
I always thought I was one of the crazies with how much I grind early on in these games until I found this series. This is a whole new level. Can’t wait to try it out!
If you're willing to go a different route (that still involves tons of card games), it is possible to get Squall's final weapon on Disc 1. However, it requires keeping Squall under level 20 until you are able to get the Brothers summon. (The big and small minotaur.)
Burning Adrenaline from World of Warcraft is my choice for that. Its a spell that Vaelstraz from Blackwing Lair casts and it works something like this. It deals damage to you equal to 10 percent of your max health per second for 10 seconds. During that time, all of your spells are instant cast and your attack speed for non spell abilities are doubled. All damage that you inflict is also doubled. After the 10 seconds expire or your HP reaches 0, you will explode dealing 50,000 damage to you and raid members within a 5 yard radius of you.
Poof, Final Fantasy version of Pokemon. Gotta card them all! (If you think about it, it kind is like pokemon because you have to get their health lower to have a higher chance for Card to work)
@@connorreed7523 who needs level when you can just deny your opponent from even existing by turning them in to a card. Although if the ability missed or they have resist, then your fucked.
@sestren2503 Triggered is not a synonym for upset/angry/annoyed. The word you are looking for is disappointed. Don't conflate the two words like that because it de-legitimizes the word when people have actual meltdowns when triggers overwhelm them.
@@evilreigns7213 Your statement triggers me. In all seriousness there are so many words this day and age that are used in no connection to their original definition. Some sound better, some sound worse. It's funny and comical. In other words.... why so serious?
Back in the day I had the game but disk one was in bad shape, I couldn't complete the first seed mission because the tower canon cutscene was bugged, I went level 100 and played cards for like 200 hours..........
All these years of playing this game, and I NEVER knew that you could receive higher level boss cards from weaker enemies using the Card command. WHAT?! My mind is seriously blown! I've always seen that monster data on the bottom right in the Card menu, but I couldn't think of why it existed and just forgot about it. I am so upset at myself for not knowing this lol
The Str bonus ability Ifrit gives you really disincentivizes leveling up this early unfortunately, as it takes time to unlock and bites you in the ass if you grind levels too early. Same applies to all Stat bonus skills, but the Str Bonus is the one that's easiest to get early on.
As enemies level-scale going for higher levels in general will make everything else stronger but your party stays basically the same. Leveling is not a good thing even with boni.
I got completely burned out and stuck. I fought so many I was down to no health and no restoratives. I had to quit. Then the next time I went back. First time going past the door i saw it. Felt like a complete idiot lol
FF7 - Junon area where you can get a ton of AP by going back there from costa del sol on disc 1 (raising the alarm where the soldiers are training). Would be good to know what the best setup at that stage can be. Nice vid bro!
i mean ive already kinda done something like this for 13-2, back on my old channel before the game was out i grinded to max level on the DEMO and beat the boss without weaking it (so i grinded to 99 and beat a postgame secret boss on the games demo).
If you want OP all you have to do is abuse the ever loving GOD out of the "Card" ability. Gives AP but no EXP. this lets you max GFs while keeping your low level. (if playing the steam or ps4 versions, use the easy battle cheat which makes anything less than a one-shot against you worthless.) Farm gnats, the fish, caterpillars, and Ifrit's cave (after getting him of course) and once you get good enough defense/HP junctions, Rexs. most of the fodder enemies in the area around Balamb have _REALLY_ good rare card drops. Quezalcoatal has card refine which lets you get items from cards, and 5 or 10 of the Borg (if I remember right) turns into an item to teach card to a GF. Quistis can also get several of her more powerful limits before even fighting Ifrit. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO _NOT_ LEVEL IF POSSIBLE. _ALL_ enemies scale off level so a level 7-9 can _DECIMATE_ everything in game. and Stat boost items can be refined later in game for pretty cheap. Also the ONLY characters you should max level are the guest characters since the game will averages levels across the entire party, and since they are guest characters they take their levels with them. 5 level 50s = 250 ÷ 5 = avLV 50 1 lv 100 + 4 level 10s = 140 ÷ 5 = avLV 28 this is important since HP for, say, T-Rexaur is 10,363 or so at lowest possible level and ~76,000 at LV100 and so on.
i got the game right when it came out and remember how easy it was to get max level in a day "not even" . a week later after restarting i was making use of card , draw , card refine and later devour commands . level 20 max stats by the time i finished the game . someone needs to make a lets play with max level , someone that's not me .
@@williamburg2735 the game is really simple at low lvls, but if you really want to see overpowered damage get a lvl 100 zell, with max str and toss a vit 0 on a boss. you can 2 round even a lvl 100 omega weapon with zell alone if you ae fast enough and are able to keep his combo going nonstop. i have seen him pull off somewhere around 800k damage a round by himself. not even squall is capable of getting more than half that. also selphie can just use the end and 1 hit kill any and all bosses, but that is cheap as the requirements to get that to appear is a major pain. you would have to be lvl 100, with less than 1% total hp, to get the best chance of making it appear.
@@Saijansfavorites Except they did. They designed it so levelling up makes the enemies get stronger so you don't get any real advantage. You still need to advance your skills so you have to come up with these weird hacks and workarounds to not get XP...so rely on an optional required mini game and side quests. Put in a Magic command but make it completely useless because it's a consumable item instead of having MP. It becomes your equipment so try and cast any spells and it weakens you. We're given the Draw command to get anywhere from 0 (bc it can fail) to 9 spells per turn from enemies in battle, who have infinite spells to cast at you. So hang around for a minimum of 12 turns to reach a full 100 stock for a given spell. Square made some weird decisions for FF8's gameplay mechanics which ruined the game for me. Mechanics that were unlike other installments in the series (or most RPGs) and later discarded for FF9 onward. That said, I beat it once and liked the setting, story, and music.
"The video is already quite long" 12:29 Glad to see some TH-camrs still retain integrity and don't try to inflate the video length. Keep at it Primal, subscribed when I saw your Borderlands remastered stuff, and been enjoying everything since.
despite what alot of people may think longer videos only do more to hurt a channel than help it. if i inflated the length nobody is gonna watch because i know i wouldnt. i only really try to create things i would watch myself. realisticly i had wanted this video to be about 8-9 minutes long but there was just abit to much information to get in.
One thing about Ifrit that can make your characters OP is his ability STR Bonus. As you level up, it permanently adds 1 STR to your character. Eventually, you can max out your strength and not need to junction magic to it or add the STR + X% abilities. This can also be done with the other stats too.
@AV BulletCatcher you can't, the only way to Max stats in ff8 is beating the cc group on disc 2 and then during time compression on disc 4 they relocate to Ragnarok. So mod a card, challenge someone get the card back and mod it again. If you do this to your player cards they turn into stat boosting items. 2 things. 1, pupu card is the only card that this does not work for and 2, some NPC's won't play the card you modded.
Good job guy! But if you didn't level up until after you got Ifrit, you could've used Ifrit's strength bonus ability by one bonus point a level, to easily max out Squall's strength at level 100 to 255 with much weaker magic junctioned. But I did learn a lot, so thanks!
@@mowiezowie3261 when i say one of the only games im not just referring to the FF series Im referring to all RPG's as a whole nowadays. Most modern RPG's the airship exploring the world concept has been replaced with a lame teleport and you're there system.
icykid But you are referring to FF8 as one of the only games that allows you to fly on your ship. I’m also just saying FFX changed everything when it came to JRPG.
Good work! You're insane. 88h was my total playthrough and I got to enjoy the game! It's great to see someone digging deep into games i replay and replay. Keep it up!
Callum Kenny 9:50 You should stay low as long as possible and when you have Cactuar you can start leveling. My Lvl 100 Squall has higher Strength, Magic and Spirit without G.F.s than his one with junctions
@@K-oZ you can max all stats on all characters at min level. and the entire game is leveled to you so the lower your level the lower every enemy level thus the lower your level the easier the game.
I hope they don’t tamper too much with the FF8 junction system, or the stats in some weird way. I enjoy the freedom to choose between grinding and becoming an overpowered monster or simply staying on a level that allows for a decent challenge. Me personally, I enjoy feeling powerful in games like these, so I basically try to grind and collect as many things that can give me an early advantage as possible. I know that the higher level you go, the enemies level up with you and they become more powerful, as well as gaining access to more powerful spells and items. And by the same token there’s the Card truck that lets you stay at a low level. I live that freedom if choice. So hopefully the renaster improves in some way the system but doesn’t change too much. Anyway I can’t wait for the remaster. It’s just around the corner.
The remaster is just that - a graphical remaster. It doesn't change anything except that it adds a kind of 'turbo mode' to the game that triples the speed, which certainly helps with traversing the map. It also includes a function that allows the disabling of random battle encounters. The PC version adds a few other things, I believe, but nothing too special.
Yup me too. I really like junction system and card system as well. Draw can be boring but that pretty much all grind is. If you have an ocd and need to get 100 every time you see the new spell, it is on you.
(8:18) And here is the fatal mistake. Don't level. If you can keep level at 0, you will do better. It's better to be level 5 against a level 1 creature, when your max stats are 50 times the creature, then level 100 with max stats, against level 50 creatures, where your only twice as powerful as the creature.
You remind me of in SNES Harvest Moon I would save all my planting, watering, etc. on hours long escapades at night since time froze at midnight. I swear that boy lived a millennium's worth of nights in Spring alone.
I love how easy it is to break the game on the first Disc. It's possible to get every ultimate weapon except for Irvine's, get some of the best spells in the game, and basically make your entire party destroy everything.
By leveling Squall, you've actually made yourself weaker. If you junction all of that really powerful magic while still low level, you can achieve high level stats while the enemies are all still low level. Meaning all three characters can spend quite a bit of time, probably until late Disc 3, one-shotting everything in sight, including bosses.
I vaguely remember using my characters just for Draw, GF, Steal, and any positive magic or items I might need, never getting any EXP because my GFs were killing the enemies.
this IMO is the best way to play the game. Keep things low. I think it even helps with handling Omega. if i remember you basically shoudl stop at like level 30 or something to prevent Omega's first power jump
Yes but the goal of the video is making your character as strong as possible, so that you can't actually do anything to become stronger. Of course strategically it doesn't make sense to spend all that time levelling up, but that's not the point
@@giovanniscagliusi9006 Video is named "How overpowered can you get before Ifrit", by leveling he made himself less overpowered. Hell, by leveling he made all the effort to get the better magic less impact fully, because at L8 it's a much greater increase in stats compared to L100. So leveling made him weaker, contrary to the point of this video.
@@godsplayingfield I did a low level run once. Faced off against a level 6 Ultimecia and it was even harder than a max level one. It was awesome and I will definitely do it again after I plat this game.
@@TempestXtreme out of curisosity, how was low level Ulti harder than max Ulti? just didnt take time to get all the best spells to junction and the like? i wouldnt blame ya if so. that shit takes way too damn long.... or was it a challenge thing where you only used low level magic for junctions too?
Never played FFVIII, so seeing blasting zone for the first time just blew my mind. This doesn’t really have anything to do with the topic of the vid, but I just felt like sharing.
I've beat the game a few times, but only in my current playthrough did I ever go through the process of getting Squall's final weapon and thus his final Limit, both named Lionheart. So I had never seen it until it was horrifically overkilling bosses for me.
been on a bit of a binge, watching a video or two a day here(sometimes going back a few years, as you can see). love the dedication for the games, cheers.
You're crazy dude ;) I saw your video for grandia too and i think you're the most patient guy on earth! Thanks for all the tips, it's a pleasure to see your work.
"Don't attempt this yourself." Sorry, I've done this sort of thing like 10 times... I don't know what's wrong with me lol. The most addictive part of this game is breaking it.
well for me was it was FFT,.. early game went to farm calculator job,.. then breeze through the game with one skill shot all battle (was even killing my own party most of the time XD)
@@blacklabel130 same, I replayed that game countless of times.. even that modded 1.3 version which balances the game.. something about fft's medieval setting keeps me coming back to replay it
NPC: *This is a card.* Squall: *Dear god...* NPC: *There's more....* Squall: *No....* *70 hours later* Squall: *I have done nothing but play cards all day.*
Ah good old FF8. I remember being so concerned about being wiped early on that I even went as far as to try to grind certain cards to TRY and get Flare.
I know it's after Ifrit, but I like to use the bonus abilities in this game. The bonus abilities permanently increase the junctioned character's stat by 1 for every level up. With this, you can easily get base stat bonuses of 80+ if you grind to level 100. (This is before junctions and stats you gain normally.) Granted, it's better to stay at a low level in this game, but I'd thought I'd mention it.
If you wanna be op aside from grinding card battles just card mod enemies and you'll only get AP instead of any EXP, the cards are the key to being an op monster.
Nice guide, personally I chose to just level every gf via Seifer that way I stay low levelled. I also include Zell's mom in the players I beat at card games. Her cards can be turned into powerful spells.
I take my hat off to you for the effort. I love doing and learning about this kind of stuff a lot so I will be looking into some more of what you have done.
You don't actually have to play against the Queen of Cards to change the rules for the area, it just has to be the most recent rule that appeared when you challenged her. Once it says the "All" rule you can back out of it and so long as you don't challenge her again you get to keep the rule exactly the same as beating her. Doing it this way also means zero chance of accidentally sending her to another region
I remember back in the day when I was using Seifer to draw while I had Squall and Zell both KO'd during their mission. I need to look into all that again but I did find it fascinating along the way. Looking forward to playing this again too. :)
Thank you for doing this fren, it was a pleasure to watch. Now Cozy wants to do this as well just to get the same feels. You're the real Boss, keep on keeping on mi fren!
Yes Leveling really high early on actually stunts the potential growth of your party members. Later in the game as you get new GFs and new abilities like str up+1 mag up+1 etc that permanently adds 1 point to the basic value of that particular attribute when the player levels up so if a party member is already at level 100 these GF abilities become useless. You can also take advantage of those abilities because it makes it easier to max those stats by using less potent magic and use more potent magic elsewhere. Those are just a few downsides to Leveling up high early.
@@huwisel no im saying levelling up at all is a terrible idea in ff8. You can complete the entire game without levelling at all and because of all the stat bugfs from GF's and their abilities/magic junctioning you will technically be stronger against the lower level versions of the enemies then you woukd to enemies of a comparible level.
drsatanrx i haven't played this in so long I can't remember what Gf's is supposed to stand for. So im just assuming its for girlfriends even though i know thats wrong lol Its a hilarious thought tbh lol
Sheeeeeeesh. Respect the grind, there was some stuff I did not know. As for anybody who doesn't know how to play this game, you will be more than okay if you don't become OP before fighting, Ifrit. If you abuse the junction and card system well enough, you will be unstoppable during disc 1 lol, just a little bit after Ifrit though.
Of everything in this video, the thing that made me spit coffee was your very calm exclamation of, 'We're going to level Squall up to 100 for the stat gains' :O
you wouldve turned out alot stronger if you stayed low lvl though. you already have access to extremely strong magic through the cards, the overlevelling wasnt worth at all.
@GodsMercenary you're forgetting the permanent stats bonus from GF, that's why you wait to have them all and then level up at island closest to Hell/Heaven. So in the long run squall would have been much stronger thanks to these bonus added 😊😊
@GodsMercenary but the enemies grow stronger than Squall. Low level with strong junctions means one shooting everything. With squall at 100 you'll face longer battles
You really dont need to hit level 100 to max out stats. With the way the junction system works i was able to max out his stats and be around level 20. Pretty early on
Which stats though? Only hp and str, or all of them? The only way I was ever able to fully max out all stats was waiting until I had all of the bonus abilities before leveling to 100 and then I still had to use devour to get everything completely maxed out.
@@LoptukqrickL11 I dont think it was all. I would have to use items to max all stats. I do remember squall having max hp attack and maybe one more skill. I think i still have the file save
@@LoptukqrickL11 The only stats you should even care to max is HP, STR, and SPD, the rest dont really matter as much unless you want to cast magic, and max HIT isnt necessary.
This covers about half of a strategy i read about and used back in the day. Dont level up, use card mod to avoid exp, learn gf abilities and junction stronger magic to your stats. But dont stop till you get an airship. Then get the jumbo cactuar GF. Cactuar has all stat increase level ups. Keep 2 party members alive Quistis being one of them, and give them spirit up, vit up, and strength or magic up depending what damage they deal. Equip one with cactuar and the other with the GF's that give you the give stat increases and junction spirit,vit and strength/magic up Head to one of the islands of heaven or hell where every monster is level 100 regardless of what level you are, Enter the battle with Quistis at low health and with the degenerator limit break. This will kill every monster on the islands instantly. 1 battle will raise you about 10 levels I had Squall and Quistis around level 10 when doing this, which gave me an additionally 90 points of vitality, spirit and strength or magic, on top of the 90 you would receive on level up, you will only need a decent magic to give you to the max 255 limit. With vitality and spirit maxed every attack you receive will be heavily reduced, Ultima's meteor attack, 25points, not 250. You should be able to get every character maxed making the end of the game childs play This is a short version. This isnt a first playthrough thing, you're kinda speed running the game till the airship.
The only way to get max overpowered is to stay at level one all the way to the end of the game and use the GF stat boost abilities. That way at the end of the game you can junction very low level spells to easily reach 255 in the main stats and use the high powered spells for other stats
Fun fact - wait for Dollet, use Seifer and kill off Zell and Squall (so they don't gain exp), and THEN grind with just Seifer. After this, use Card Mod to gain no exp for the rest of the disks, wait until you get the +1 bonuses from the GF's, then laugh at anything trying to hurt you in the future.
Do you have access to Zells mother? The zell card i believe turns into like 60 triples which basicslly gives squall max str and damage cap right out the gate
My 100% playthrough of the OG FF8 saw me at: - lvl 45 for Squall and Quistis - second-best weapons for Squall and Quistis - almost all abilities learned for Shiva and Quezacotl I annihilated Ifrit so hard we both screamed.
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You can get Squall's ultimate weapon as well. If you play Zell's mom she uses the card's that you can mod over to get the required elements, but other than that great video.
I thought I was insane with my grinding, essentially maxing out everything I could along, best thunder, wind and ice magic (along with whatever I could draw minus the Esuna that you only get 2 per draw no matter what your magic is). I also played enough cards to get those energy crystals for Squall's final weapon. Playing cards now is fairly easy, especially with the Queen there you can just make sure the trade rule is All. Card games tend to get pretty complicated later on in the game, with all those rules getting in the way.
Quistis: hey Squall, dont you think you might have over done it? Squall: you saw it, it lived past a single hit. I NEED MORE!!! Quistis: but it cant die till after the final h.. Squall: MOOOORRRREEE!!!!
Hey dude. Noticed this vid and your channel while looking round TH-cam on for ff8 stuff. Your video was very informative and intresting. When i played through ff8 on my vita a few years ago? Before i got to ifrit i leveled squall up to 48 before i carried on with the game. I never thought of doing the card mod at all. Thankfully now youve given me more reason to play the remaster for even longer. I can think of a load of videos on TH-cam that are pointless and this one is not one of them. Thanks for all the effort you went to. Great stuff
Seriously, I thought I had missed some important part of the video, like him giving Squall a curious item that let's him level up real fast. But it turns out that it was simple a very very very very very long grind session @____@
Small correction: the fisher on the balamb dock is actually a balamb student skipping class who can randomly appear on the dock and in most online guides, is referred to as that instead
That's a good way to put it but you get stronger as the monsters do I never reall found it was harder when I played it back in the day used to power level befor I knew about the scaling he dose mention it in the video just seems a bit of a wasn't of time to me but hey each to there own .
@@werewolfgames102 totally agree with you there's no point in grinding levels, carding and devour took me to the games end at level 20 . guess when i said difficult i really meant everythings hit point an def clime making some monsters take longer to kill not really making them more dangerous . my bad
With a psone you dont even need to draw to win. All you need is to go and use selfie, open the disc tray.... while rolling in her limits till the end or full cure pops and win.
Its also possible to glitch your damage before disc two. Glitch as in, you break the damage limit. ( Funny thing is the same thing can be done in FF7. )
I always find this game so special becoz of triple triad... its like one of the most enjoyable sidequest experience i had... and also amazed by how rewarding it is to get items through cards instead of leveling up the conventional way... i wish ff8 would have more recognition among the other ff titles...
I've watched a few of these now and I have been in awe of the patience and determination on your part then saw the ff8 one "ahh one I've done myself!"... nope I've only broken it the boring casual way before timber: levelling siefer on dollet until you can draw level 3 spells, save scumming killing the robot thing until it drops force armlet (to instantly get rinoa's ultimate weapon when she joins later) then grinding ap and cards (forever in ifrit's cave farming krysta cards for those holy spells whilst avoiding xp) then playing cards to fill the other junctions before catching the train
Rely on a mini game and subquest to build up your characters. Don't fight, gain exp, and level up to make them stronger like every single other RPG ever. Because the enemies get stronger too so you never have any advantage. Put in a Magic command but make it completely useless because it's a consumable item instead of having MP. It becomes your equipment so try and cast any spells and it weakens you. Square made some really weird decisions when it came to gameplay mechanics for FF8. I liked this story, setting, and music but overall I didn't like this game.
I always do this in RPGs and it started with realizing you could get the GFs early by using the console in the classroom. I spent the next 30 hours leveling squall up to 100 in the training area before I met quistis
I remember back on the PSX day I did my own version of powerlevelling. You only need Quezacotl as well, simply farm his ability to turn cards in spells. Then you have to keep playing the cards, I think the guy at the gate at the entrance to Balamb had Abyss Worm. That can in turn lead to Tornado after 1 or 2 changes. Also, do not get Squall any weapons until you can get his final weapon. His limit breaks are randomized, so if you limit the amount of weapons you get, you get higher chances of obtaining it. You can get it on disc 1 by refining Bros card into adamantine.
@Lucid Nonsense at low levels, yes. At medium to high? No. Why waste ultima's OP defense against all elements when you can junction Meteor and get to 255 strength?
oh my friend, it seems Suikoden will never come back to us, being Konami completely focused on mobile games and other stuff. It looks like the franchise is dead, and being Suikoden 2 my all time favourite, it brings tears to my eyes every time I think about it. Let's cross fingers and hope it returns some day.
70 hours eh? that's time well spent. I remember being 15 and feeling for the first time, that time Flys when I play final fantasy tactics. That and I had the timer maxxed out at 99:99 for my ff7 first completion. I grew up on final fantasy. Years of my life spent playing them, with no regrets at all.
*Squall walks in*
Ifrit : why do i hear boss music?
Lol, made me laugh more than it should have done.
Squall: I'm just an average man, or maybe I'm a lyin'."
well.... considering poor Ifrit can only be level 6 and has 1068 hp.... it's more like:
*glacial eye wanders in*
Ifrit: oh shit oh shit oh shit i hope it doesnt come too close....
😂
Game: "Relax, you won't be hearing it for long."
Ifrit: ?? .... !
I actually used to do this back when I was a kid because it was back in the days where you could only buy games like once a year so I would play the living HELL out of games. It was fun times. It's great to see someone finally making a video about this.
You did this actual strat way back in day? 100% doubt
@rodneyhorsley8601
What's hard to believe? I also wanted to become as powerful as possible before ifrit even began as a kid. What's the best way to become powerful in this game? Junctioning and not leveling. How do you make junctioning more useful? Better magic. How do you get better magic? Card refining.
It's not some big mystery. It's just time consuming. Not sure if I ever completed it. But I def got some high level magic before I went and beat ifrit.
@@rodneyhorsley8601 - Loads of people did this. It's literally how you play this game. Do you really think that TH-cam content creators were the first to do anything in older games? I figured out how to get Lionheart early on before I even knew anyone else that did it. Me and my friends were min-maxing and speed-running games before we even knew that those terms existed. The internet didn't exist back then.
@@rodneyhorsley8601 I have done similar things before. As a kid, I got max level before finishing the level forest in Mystic Quest(it is the first dungeon, I think). It didn't take 70+ hours, but it took an unreasonably long time, and I only did it because why the heck not? I'm a kid, I have no responsibilities.
As for ff8, what was shown in this video wasn't complicated. While I didn't go quite as far as he did, and I didn't limit myself to doing it before Ifrit, I did get level 100 extremely early in the game, just for fun.
Thanks for spending 70 hours of your life for 10 mins of mine. You get a like and a sub good sir.
Euta Lightsy my thoughts exactly, that’s some damn dedication right there. Kudos dude kudos indeed
A classic old-school effort-first grind of a video. Thank you sir. It’s a rare and dying art
F for respect
He didn't played 70 hours to grind all the items for this video. He can simply use the savegame editor to bring the cards to 99 with a few clicks^^
Lol I already put 11hrs on my ps4 just got it at midnight.
I think the biggest kick in the teeth is if you card mod the sandsharks you still get the ap and lose the exp. So you could keep yourself low level and walk through the whole game with high level junctions and bonus summon ap abilities like +60% str
And get to the point where you can get The Lionheart on Disc 1 too
That's a benefit. I believe the only way to get perfect stats with perfect magic absorption is by staying at beginning level with everyone. GFs give permanent stat bonuses if they're equipped during level up. I don't remember the spell maybe it was meltdown but to get 255 stats in one field you needed it there but to get good absorption in elemental defense you needed it there. So, there was a sacrifice. But, if you stayed level 7, then used GF stat bonuses to dump 93 points into that stat, you could still hit 255 with another crappier junction and move that spell to the absorption line and there would no longer be any sacrifice.
@@Valerius123 or the sick way, is to use devour and str-ups, vit-ups, hp-up and such to increase your stats to the maximum without using the best magic (you could even increase it to maximum without junctions but is way too much grind), and use ultima and other spells to make you virtually immune to damage using them in elem-jct.
I always thought I was one of the crazies with how much I grind early on in these games until I found this series. This is a whole new level. Can’t wait to try it out!
haha well glad your enjoying the series
Card games is where it's at.
If you're willing to go a different route (that still involves tons of card games), it is possible to get Squall's final weapon on Disc 1. However, it requires keeping Squall under level 20 until you are able to get the Brothers summon. (The big and small minotaur.)
Card is still my favorite video game ability of all time.
Poof, you're a collectible.
Burning Adrenaline from World of Warcraft is my choice for that.
Its a spell that Vaelstraz from Blackwing Lair casts and it works something like this.
It deals damage to you equal to 10 percent of your max health per second for 10 seconds. During that time, all of your spells are instant cast and your attack speed for non spell abilities are doubled. All damage that you inflict is also doubled. After the 10 seconds expire or your HP reaches 0, you will explode dealing 50,000 damage to you and raid members within a 5 yard radius of you.
I meant player abilities, but okay, that's one hell of a boss mechanic. I never ran BWL, and now I wish I had. Really interesting dynamic there!
Poof, Final Fantasy version of Pokemon. Gotta card them all! (If you think about it, it kind is like pokemon because you have to get their health lower to have a higher chance for Card to work)
Best of all, you get no EXP for carding enemies ^_^
@@connorreed7523 who needs level when you can just deny your opponent from even existing by turning them in to a card. Although if the ability missed or they have resist, then your fucked.
I'm so triggered you didn't end the video by going to Ifrit.
Didn't even know you could leave the area and continue the story without going to Ifrit's cave. I feel so dumb lol
Victoria Sharpe I didn’t know either and I played it a lot back in the day
You should hit R1 then.
@sestren2503 Triggered is not a synonym for upset/angry/annoyed. The word you are looking for is disappointed. Don't conflate the two words like that because it de-legitimizes the word when people have actual meltdowns when triggers overwhelm them.
@@evilreigns7213 Your statement triggers me. In all seriousness there are so many words this day and age that are used in no connection to their original definition. Some sound better, some sound worse. It's funny and comical. In other words.... why so serious?
you spent 70 hours on final fantasy before ifrit ? you're insane, man ! this is the most deserved like i've ever given
Back in the day I had the game but disk one was in bad shape, I couldn't complete the first seed mission because the tower canon cutscene was bugged, I went level 100 and played cards for like 200 hours..........
All these years of playing this game, and I NEVER knew that you could receive higher level boss cards from weaker enemies using the Card command. WHAT?! My mind is seriously blown! I've always seen that monster data on the bottom right in the Card menu, but I couldn't think of why it existed and just forgot about it. I am so upset at myself for not knowing this lol
i got tiamad from turning grandel into card. i swear
ARMOR15 Same. Bought at the same time as my og PlayStation. I never noticed this!
The Str bonus ability Ifrit gives you really disincentivizes leveling up this early unfortunately, as it takes time to unlock and bites you in the ass if you grind levels too early. Same applies to all Stat bonus skills, but the Str Bonus is the one that's easiest to get early on.
As enemies level-scale going for higher levels in general will make everything else stronger but your party stays basically the same. Leveling is not a good thing even with boni.
70 hours, totally worth it! Respect earned and subbed! :)
When I played this as a kid I couldn't find Ifirts cave and ended up grinding for two days unintentionally trying to find it. 😂
I feel you man. I couldn't find the meeting spot in the training center my first play through.
Did you fight trexaur?
Legit sleep and magic takes him out. I ended up card a bunch of trexausrs
I got completely burned out and stuck. I fought so many I was down to no health and no restoratives. I had to quit. Then the next time I went back. First time going past the door i saw it. Felt like a complete idiot lol
I fought several T-rex and huge number of dinosaurs before wandering into ifrit cave by accident after a car drive
😂 😂 😂 I thought I was the only one
Should i do this for another FF game? if so which one, and what should i get overpowered before?
FF7 - Junon area where you can get a ton of AP by going back there from costa del sol on disc 1 (raising the alarm where the soldiers are training).
Would be good to know what the best setup at that stage can be.
Nice vid bro!
Ff 13 2 over powering the final boss.that boss can be a pain.
i mean ive already kinda done something like this for 13-2, back on my old channel before the game was out i grinded to max level on the DEMO and beat the boss without weaking it (so i grinded to 99 and beat a postgame secret boss on the games demo).
@@bludmoon4508 Dude. FF7 is so broken lol
FF7. First reactor
If you want OP all you have to do is abuse the ever loving GOD out of the "Card" ability. Gives AP but no EXP. this lets you max GFs while keeping your low level. (if playing the steam or ps4 versions, use the easy battle cheat which makes anything less than a one-shot against you worthless.)
Farm gnats, the fish, caterpillars, and Ifrit's cave (after getting him of course) and once you get good enough defense/HP junctions, Rexs. most of the fodder enemies in the area around Balamb have _REALLY_ good rare card drops.
Quezalcoatal has card refine which lets you get items from cards, and 5 or 10 of the Borg (if I remember right) turns into an item to teach card to a GF.
Quistis can also get several of her more powerful limits before even fighting Ifrit.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, DO _NOT_ LEVEL IF POSSIBLE. _ALL_ enemies scale off level so a level 7-9 can _DECIMATE_ everything in game. and Stat boost items can be refined later in game for pretty cheap.
Also the ONLY characters you should max level are the guest characters since the game will averages levels across the entire party, and since they are guest characters they take their levels with them.
5 level 50s = 250 ÷ 5 = avLV 50
1 lv 100 + 4 level 10s = 140 ÷ 5 = avLV 28
this is important since HP for, say, T-Rexaur is 10,363 or so at lowest possible level and ~76,000 at LV100
and so on.
i got the game right when it came out and remember how easy it was to get max level in a day "not even" . a week later after restarting i was making use of card , draw , card refine and later devour commands . level 20 max stats by the time i finished the game . someone needs to make a lets play with max level , someone that's not me .
@@williamburg2735 the game is really simple at low lvls, but if you really want to see overpowered damage get a lvl 100 zell, with max str and toss a vit 0 on a boss. you can 2 round even a lvl 100 omega weapon with zell alone if you ae fast enough and are able to keep his combo going nonstop. i have seen him pull off somewhere around 800k damage a round by himself. not even squall is capable of getting more than half that.
also selphie can just use the end and 1 hit kill any and all bosses, but that is cheap as the requirements to get that to appear is a major pain. you would have to be lvl 100, with less than 1% total hp, to get the best chance of making it appear.
Don't level up your characters. Don't fight gain exp and try to strengthen them like every other RPG ever. That's something I hated about FF8
@@burger_kinghorn it is not saying not to. it is saying you don't have to
@@Saijansfavorites Except they did. They designed it so levelling up makes the enemies get stronger so you don't get any real advantage. You still need to advance your skills so you have to come up with these weird hacks and workarounds to not get XP...so rely on an optional required mini game and side quests.
Put in a Magic command but make it completely useless because it's a consumable item instead of having MP. It becomes your equipment so try and cast any spells and it weakens you. We're given the Draw command to get anywhere from 0 (bc it can fail) to 9 spells per turn from enemies in battle, who have infinite spells to cast at you. So hang around for a minimum of 12 turns to reach a full 100 stock for a given spell.
Square made some weird decisions for FF8's gameplay mechanics which ruined the game for me. Mechanics that were unlike other installments in the series (or most RPGs) and later discarded for FF9 onward. That said, I beat it once and liked the setting, story, and music.
This season of Yugioh was weird
made me laugh, well done
The Squall & Ellone incest was weirder in the manga
"The video is already quite long"
12:29
Glad to see some TH-camrs still retain integrity and don't try to inflate the video length. Keep at it Primal, subscribed when I saw your Borderlands remastered stuff, and been enjoying everything since.
despite what alot of people may think longer videos only do more to hurt a channel than help it. if i inflated the length nobody is gonna watch because i know i wouldnt. i only really try to create things i would watch myself. realisticly i had wanted this video to be about 8-9 minutes long but there was just abit to much information to get in.
@@Primalliquid92 Exactly. That's why I love your content.
One thing about Ifrit that can make your characters OP is his ability STR Bonus. As you level up, it permanently adds 1 STR to your character. Eventually, you can max out your strength and not need to junction magic to it or add the STR + X% abilities. This can also be done with the other stats too.
I did that with Zell, speed with Squall, and magic with Rinoa. It was glorious
@AV BulletCatcher you can't, the only way to Max stats in ff8 is beating the cc group on disc 2 and then during time compression on disc 4 they relocate to Ragnarok.
So mod a card, challenge someone get the card back and mod it again. If you do this to your player cards they turn into stat boosting items.
2 things. 1, pupu card is the only card that this does not work for and 2, some NPC's won't play the card you modded.
@@chaosstorm8307 Yes you still can. Its called "Devour".
@@IzraelGraves 21 years later still learning something new lol.
Thanks
I've been playing Final Fantasy VIII since it came out and still playing today
John Wilson I mean at this point, why stop now?
@@163WaysToLive there is no stopping there's a many different ways to play this game
I only beat the game 4 times, wating for my 5th when the remaster gets out
Whoa must be a really long playthrough
Im pretty sure after the first year you can use a walkthrough without shame buddy. Its a law or something
Good job guy! But if you didn't level up until after you got Ifrit, you could've used Ifrit's strength bonus ability by one bonus point a level, to easily max out Squall's strength at level 100 to 255 with much weaker magic junctioned. But I did learn a lot, so thanks!
He literally made a point of saying that he was doing it specifically because the premise of the video was just to get overpowered BEFORE Ifrit
Me: Why is playing cards the first grind?
Me: You can WHAT with the cards?!
I love how much freedom you can do in this game. Even more detailed than a regular job system.
Favorite FF of all time. Liked and subbed. I drop my hat to you sir!
FF8 is extremely underrated and its one of the only games you can actually explore with your ships
Final fantasy type 0 also have ship exploring
I’m pretty sure every FF game before FF10 allows you to explore the world with your airships/ships/submarines.
@@mowiezowie3261 when i say one of the only games im not just referring to the FF series Im referring to all RPG's as a whole nowadays. Most modern RPG's the airship exploring the world concept has been replaced with a lame teleport and you're there system.
icykid But you are referring to FF8 as one of the only games that allows you to fly on your ship. I’m also just saying FFX changed everything when it came to JRPG.
@@mowiezowie3261 Sucks that we don't get as many proper world maps anymore.
Good work! You're insane. 88h was my total playthrough and I got to enjoy the game! It's great to see someone digging deep into games i replay and replay. Keep it up!
Also, it's more overpowered to stay low level and use clever junctioning than to hit 100
Callum Kenny 9:50 You should stay low as long as possible and when you have Cactuar you can start leveling. My Lvl 100 Squall has higher Strength, Magic and Spirit without G.F.s than his one with junctions
@@K-oZ you can max all stats on all characters at min level. and the entire game is leveled to you so the lower your level the lower every enemy level thus the lower your level the easier the game.
High level is more challenging than the low level
That's why the vid title is flat out trolling. Leveling up with no stat bonus lead to being underpowered.
Yes
7 minutes in.... I forgot how far you are in this game. freaking INTRO. lol!
I hope they don’t tamper too much with the FF8 junction system, or the stats in some weird way. I enjoy the freedom to choose between grinding and becoming an overpowered monster or simply staying on a level that allows for a decent challenge.
Me personally, I enjoy feeling powerful in games like these, so I basically try to grind and collect as many things that can give me an early advantage as possible.
I know that the higher level you go, the enemies level up with you and they become more powerful, as well as gaining access to more powerful spells and items. And by the same token there’s the Card truck that lets you stay at a low level. I live that freedom if choice. So hopefully the renaster improves in some way the system but doesn’t change too much. Anyway I can’t wait for the remaster. It’s just around the corner.
The remaster changes nothing, they're only upgrading some graphics.
The remaster is just that - a graphical remaster. It doesn't change anything except that it adds a kind of 'turbo mode' to the game that triples the speed, which certainly helps with traversing the map. It also includes a function that allows the disabling of random battle encounters. The PC version adds a few other things, I believe, but nothing too special.
Yup me too. I really like junction system and card system as well. Draw can be boring but that pretty much all grind is. If you have an ocd and need to get 100 every time you see the new spell, it is on you.
(8:18) And here is the fatal mistake. Don't level. If you can keep level at 0, you will do better. It's better to be level 5 against a level 1 creature, when your max stats are 50 times the creature, then level 100 with max stats, against level 50 creatures, where your only twice as powerful as the creature.
You remind me of in SNES Harvest Moon I would save all my planting, watering, etc. on hours long escapades at night since time froze at midnight. I swear that boy lived a millennium's worth of nights in Spring alone.
I love how easy it is to break the game on the first Disc. It's possible to get every ultimate weapon except for Irvine's, get some of the best spells in the game, and basically make your entire party destroy everything.
By leveling Squall, you've actually made yourself weaker. If you junction all of that really powerful magic while still low level, you can achieve high level stats while the enemies are all still low level. Meaning all three characters can spend quite a bit of time, probably until late Disc 3, one-shotting everything in sight, including bosses.
I vaguely remember using my characters just for Draw, GF, Steal, and any positive magic or items I might need, never getting any EXP because my GFs were killing the enemies.
this IMO is the best way to play the game. Keep things low.
I think it even helps with handling Omega.
if i remember you basically shoudl stop at like level 30 or something to prevent Omega's first power jump
Actually if you keep your party lvl low till you get ragnarok and use the stat bonuses you can max stats at island closest to hell
Yes but the goal of the video is making your character as strong as possible, so that you can't actually do anything to become stronger. Of course strategically it doesn't make sense to spend all that time levelling up, but that's not the point
@@giovanniscagliusi9006 Video is named "How overpowered can you get before Ifrit", by leveling he made himself less overpowered. Hell, by leveling he made all the effort to get the better magic less impact fully, because at L8 it's a much greater increase in stats compared to L100. So leveling made him weaker, contrary to the point of this video.
Okay, I ABUSED the Triple Triad game to power level in FF8, and I never realised how the Card command truly worked. Thank you!
card is awesome. you get the items and AP and a card, BUT NO EXP! :D best ability for a game you dont wanna level up in.
@@godsplayingfield I did a low level run once. Faced off against a level 6 Ultimecia and it was even harder than a max level one. It was awesome and I will definitely do it again after I plat this game.
@@TempestXtreme out of curisosity, how was low level Ulti harder than max Ulti?
just didnt take time to get all the best spells to junction and the like? i wouldnt blame ya if so. that shit takes way too damn long....
or was it a challenge thing where you only used low level magic for junctions too?
@@godsplayingfield Low level everything, so basic spells, basic weapons, no leveling at all. It was fun but not something I'll do again.
@@TempestXtreme ahhh i see. yeah that sounds like a decent challenge.
Never played FFVIII, so seeing blasting zone for the first time just blew my mind. This doesn’t really have anything to do with the topic of the vid, but I just felt like sharing.
I've beat the game a few times, but only in my current playthrough did I ever go through the process of getting Squall's final weapon and thus his final Limit, both named Lionheart. So I had never seen it until it was horrifically overkilling bosses for me.
been on a bit of a binge, watching a video or two a day here(sometimes going back a few years, as you can see). love the dedication for the games, cheers.
You're crazy dude ;) I saw your video for grandia too and i think you're the most patient guy on earth! Thanks for all the tips, it's a pleasure to see your work.
Very impressive. This game is set up the smaller your level the stronger you are. You can god mode this game with card mod
"Don't attempt this yourself." Sorry, I've done this sort of thing like 10 times... I don't know what's wrong with me lol. The most addictive part of this game is breaking it.
well for me was it was FFT,.. early game went to farm calculator job,.. then breeze through the game with one skill shot all battle (was even killing my own party most of the time XD)
@@blacklabel130 same, I replayed that game countless of times.. even that modded 1.3 version which balances the game.. something about fft's medieval setting keeps me coming back to replay it
Don't apologize, indulge.
I got level 75 in the first reactor in FF7 with Cloud and Barret. I forget how long it took but I gave up before 99 of course.
I remember my sister playing kingdom hearts. She somewhere around level 70 before leaving the island.
NPC: *This is a card.*
Squall: *Dear god...*
NPC: *There's more....*
Squall: *No....*
*70 hours later*
Squall: *I have done nothing but play cards all day.*
This is incredible lmfao. I also love how you acknowledge that no one has ever wondered this and how much time you put into it hahahahah. Love it man
First-time watcher and subscribed. Why? How you HUMBLY did 70 HOURS of gameplay for this video. Respect! Thank you! :)
That beach outside garden at the start of the game...you can over power.
Ah good old FF8. I remember being so concerned about being wiped early on that I even went as far as to try to grind certain cards to TRY and get Flare.
I remember I hit Level 100 on the Balamb beach once... I was a grind freak back then lol
you mustve regretted that decision
@@ryoadrian9605 Not really. My 15 year old self had a lot of time on his hands lol. Thankfully, was my second or third playthrough so didn't ruin it.
ScottM1 ^ totally understand. Lol I’ve done the same.
I did that inside the garden training area with t-rex enemy, lots quicker. Also lionheart on disc 1.
I know it's after Ifrit, but I like to use the bonus abilities in this game. The bonus abilities permanently increase the junctioned character's stat by 1 for every level up. With this, you can easily get base stat bonuses of 80+ if you grind to level 100. (This is before junctions and stats you gain normally.) Granted, it's better to stay at a low level in this game, but I'd thought I'd mention it.
Wow. I didn’t even really care about this but knowing how dedicated you are your channel you have more than earned a like and a new subscriber!
If you wanna be op aside from grinding card battles just card mod enemies and you'll only get AP instead of any EXP, the cards are the key to being an op monster.
I managed to get Lionheart on Disc 1 without leveling thanks to card games. Had to give myself handcaps after breaking the game.
@ It's really not. Once you get access to the Galbadian continent you can get the Lionheart.
@ being able to get Lionheart disc one is something that is fairly known. It has been for years
gottfer no he’s right. I saw a TH-cam on how to do it.
@ You can get plenty of the materials you need for Squalls ultimate weapon by playing cards. I recently did it few months back.
I junction my Guardian Force: Exodia the Forbidden One!
Wrong game, that's from pokemon
Are you kidding? It's clearly from SMT.
OBLITERATE!!!
Guys guys please its clearly from monster hunter, smdh
“Ah!. Exodia nobodies ever been able to summon him. Well...except for that one time.
Nice guide, personally I chose to just level every gf via Seifer that way I stay low levelled. I also include Zell's mom in the players I beat at card games. Her cards can be turned into powerful spells.
I take my hat off to you for the effort. I love doing and learning about this kind of stuff a lot so I will be looking into some more of what you have done.
You don't actually have to play against the Queen of Cards to change the rules for the area, it just has to be the most recent rule that appeared when you challenged her. Once it says the "All" rule you can back out of it and so long as you don't challenge her again you get to keep the rule exactly the same as beating her. Doing it this way also means zero chance of accidentally sending her to another region
I remember back in the day when I was using Seifer to draw while I had Squall and Zell both KO'd during their mission. I need to look into all that again but I did find it fascinating along the way. Looking forward to playing this again too. :)
Wouldn't it be better not to level up because of the enemy scaling?
Amazing this is still being talked about in 2019. I played this in 99 I was 7
I'm playing in 2021 brother. Never gets old
I already attempted this but after Dollet mission (no level run) - it's quite the grind. I salute you for this.
Thank you for doing this fren, it was a pleasure to watch.
Now Cozy wants to do this as well just to get the same feels.
You're the real Boss, keep on keeping on mi fren!
I have lost count how many years I have played this game.. didn't know any of this.
Literally do everything you did EXCEPT level squall and you would be stronger.
Exactly. A lot of people misunderstand leveling in this game. Leveling gives such little benefit in this game it’s just a waste of time.
Yes Leveling really high early on actually stunts the potential growth of your party members. Later in the game as you get new GFs and new abilities like str up+1 mag up+1 etc that permanently adds 1 point to the basic value of that particular attribute when the player levels up so if a party member is already at level 100 these GF abilities become useless. You can also take advantage of those abilities because it makes it easier to max those stats by using less potent magic and use more potent magic elsewhere. Those are just a few downsides to Leveling up high early.
@@huwisel no im saying levelling up at all is a terrible idea in ff8. You can complete the entire game without levelling at all and because of all the stat bugfs from GF's and their abilities/magic junctioning you will technically be stronger against the lower level versions of the enemies then you woukd to enemies of a comparible level.
drsatanrx i haven't played this in so long I can't remember what Gf's is supposed to stand for. So im just assuming its for girlfriends even though i know thats wrong lol Its a hilarious thought tbh lol
@@IISeverusll guardian force. But girlfriend is still accurate
You sacrifice has brought me immense joy. I feel like I too was level 100 goin solo just now. Great video lmao 🤘👍
Sheeeeeeesh. Respect the grind, there was some stuff I did not know. As for anybody who doesn't know how to play this game, you will be more than okay if you don't become OP before fighting, Ifrit. If you abuse the junction and card system well enough, you will be unstoppable during disc 1 lol, just a little bit after Ifrit though.
Of everything in this video, the thing that made me spit coffee was your very calm exclamation of, 'We're going to level Squall up to 100 for the stat gains' :O
you wouldve turned out alot stronger if you stayed low lvl though. you already have access to extremely strong magic through the cards, the overlevelling wasnt worth at all.
Yes, but i also hate to not using Squall for most of the time in the battles though : (
@@ValKoralie you just dont kill the enemies. Drain them of magic and steal things from them but dont kill them
@Jayjay Myers youtube challenges give trophies now???
@GodsMercenary you're forgetting the permanent stats bonus from GF, that's why you wait to have them all and then level up at island closest to Hell/Heaven. So in the long run squall would have been much stronger thanks to these bonus added 😊😊
@GodsMercenary but the enemies grow stronger than Squall. Low level with strong junctions means one shooting everything. With squall at 100 you'll face longer battles
The higher your level gets, the more hardcore monsters are :)
You really dont need to hit level 100 to max out stats. With the way the junction system works i was able to max out his stats and be around level 20. Pretty early on
Which stats though? Only hp and str, or all of them? The only way I was ever able to fully max out all stats was waiting until I had all of the bonus abilities before leveling to 100 and then I still had to use devour to get everything completely maxed out.
@@LoptukqrickL11 I dont think it was all. I would have to use items to max all stats. I do remember squall having max hp attack and maybe one more skill. I think i still have the file save
@@LoptukqrickL11 The only stats you should even care to max is HP, STR, and SPD, the rest dont really matter as much unless you want to cast magic, and max HIT isnt necessary.
This covers about half of a strategy i read about and used back in the day. Dont level up, use card mod to avoid exp, learn gf abilities and junction stronger magic to your stats.
But dont stop till you get an airship. Then get the jumbo cactuar GF. Cactuar has all stat increase level ups.
Keep 2 party members alive Quistis being one of them, and give them spirit up, vit up, and strength or magic up depending what damage they deal.
Equip one with cactuar and the other with the GF's that give you the give stat increases and junction spirit,vit and strength/magic up
Head to one of the islands of heaven or hell where every monster is level 100 regardless of what level you are,
Enter the battle with Quistis at low health and with the degenerator limit break. This will kill every monster on the islands instantly.
1 battle will raise you about 10 levels
I had Squall and Quistis around level 10 when doing this, which gave me an additionally 90 points of vitality, spirit and strength or magic, on top of the 90 you would receive on level up, you will only need a decent magic to give you to the max 255 limit.
With vitality and spirit maxed every attack you receive will be heavily reduced, Ultima's meteor attack, 25points, not 250.
You should be able to get every character maxed making the end of the game childs play
This is a short version. This isnt a first playthrough thing, you're kinda speed running the game till the airship.
Thats what i Was doing back in the days, but i actually came up with it by myself 💪
you say pointless, i say salute to u this is beyond what the beyond two decade ff8 guide i had could offer me
The only way to get max overpowered is to stay at level one all the way to the end of the game and use the GF stat boost abilities. That way at the end of the game you can junction very low level spells to easily reach 255 in the main stats and use the high powered spells for other stats
Unless you want to spend tons of time refining tents and cottages until you can afford to make stat ups
There is nobody at level 1 in FF8.
Fun fact - wait for Dollet, use Seifer and kill off Zell and Squall (so they don't gain exp), and THEN grind with just Seifer. After this, use Card Mod to gain no exp for the rest of the disks, wait until you get the +1 bonuses from the GF's, then laugh at anything trying to hurt you in the future.
@AV BulletCatcher As in Card - the Command Ability you can teach Quezacotl. You can use it to Card enemies and gain no exp.
Do you have access to Zells mother? The zell card i believe turns into like 60 triples which basicslly gives squall max str and damage cap right out the gate
Great video and fair play for having the patience to do it 👍🏻
Thank you for doing this because I ask myself this question every time I think about the game!
Others: "Dude, how did you get SO strong?"
The knowledgeable; "Cards, young padiwan. Cards."
honestly the most broken system in Final Fantasy history (kinda)
My 100% playthrough of the OG FF8 saw me at:
- lvl 45 for Squall and Quistis
- second-best weapons for Squall and Quistis
- almost all abilities learned for Shiva and Quezacotl
I annihilated Ifrit so hard we both screamed.
I did this too. Way back in the day...
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How you get punishmemt without August paper
@@Fragmon1 the books only make them visible, not unlock them. so if you have the items required you can still make the weapons even without the books.
@@Primalliquid92 Damn nice, I didn't knew that, should be helpful in my current OG playthrough.
are you gonna do a 12 video too?
@@Primalliquid92 thank you. I dont know that.
You can get Squall's ultimate weapon as well. If you play Zell's mom she uses the card's that you can mod over to get the required elements, but other than that great video.
you cant get squalls ultimate weapon from cards because you cant get adamantite. the ONLY card which gives that is Minotar
@@Primalliquid92 weird I remember getting it from childhood, could be wrong though. It's been like 15ish years since I've last played it
you can get it on disc 1 pretty easily, but cant before ifrit. the Earliest possible time you can get it is right after timber.
Back on my 1st play threw we didnt have youtube. God i needed this guide back in my middleschool summer days!
I thought I was insane with my grinding, essentially maxing out everything I could along, best thunder, wind and ice magic (along with whatever I could draw minus the Esuna that you only get 2 per draw no matter what your magic is). I also played enough cards to get those energy crystals for Squall's final weapon. Playing cards now is fairly easy, especially with the Queen there you can just make sure the trade rule is All. Card games tend to get pretty complicated later on in the game, with all those rules getting in the way.
10:11 your Squalll is too strong .... Quistis just lie down watching him doing limit brake on a mosquito..
Quistis: hey Squall, dont you think you might have over done it?
Squall: you saw it, it lived past a single hit. I NEED MORE!!!
Quistis: but it cant die till after the final h..
Squall: MOOOORRRREEE!!!!
@@godsplayingfield lol
squall too strong for Quistis ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
This is my favorite (as well as first) final fantasy game even though alot of people didn't like this one.
The learning curve in this game is so steep, I still have to get my head around that card game
Hey dude. Noticed this vid and your channel while looking round TH-cam on for ff8 stuff. Your video was very informative and intresting. When i played through ff8 on my vita a few years ago? Before i got to ifrit i leveled squall up to 48 before i carried on with the game. I never thought of doing the card mod at all. Thankfully now youve given me more reason to play the remaster for even longer. I can think of a load of videos on TH-cam that are pointless and this one is not one of them. Thanks for all the effort you went to. Great stuff
How OP can you get before Ifirit?
Me: Awesome going to abuse the junction system.
'We are going to level Squall to 100"
Me: I'm out.
Seriously, I thought I had missed some important part of the video, like him giving Squall a curious item that let's him level up real fast. But it turns out that it was simple a very very very very very long grind session @____@
Uh, well getting Card and Card Mod is always the first thing you do in an FF8 play through. It's the law.
A+ 10/10, subbed. Will watch you waste your life away again.
Final fantasy never waste of life shut up weeb
Half a million views, I wouldn't say your effort was pointless. Watched the whole video, well done.
Small correction: the fisher on the balamb dock is actually a balamb student skipping class who can randomly appear on the dock and in most online guides, is referred to as that instead
I thort ff8 monsters scaled with the players level so there no point in grinding levels ?
you could say the levels are like how difficult do you want the game to be , because you can max out in the training grounds pretty quick
That's a good way to put it but you get stronger as the monsters do I never reall found it was harder when I played it back in the day used to power level befor I knew about the scaling he dose mention it in the video just seems a bit of a wasn't of time to me but hey each to there own .
@@werewolfgames102 totally agree with you there's no point in grinding levels, carding and devour took me to the games end at level 20 . guess when i said difficult i really meant everythings hit point an def clime making some monsters take longer to kill not really making them more dangerous . my bad
Thought* fucking dumbass
The draw system can break the game in many ways. Before beating Disc one, I had max 9,999 HP because of grinding on drawing Full-Life
With a psone you dont even need to draw to win. All you need is to go and use selfie, open the disc tray.... while rolling in her limits till the end or full cure pops and win.
@@Flem1337 or Rapture, most of the time
Its also possible to glitch your damage before disc two. Glitch as in, you break the damage limit. ( Funny thing is the same thing can be done in FF7. )
@@UndyingZombie Please tell me more about that
I always find this game so special becoz of triple triad... its like one of the most enjoyable sidequest experience i had... and also amazed by how rewarding it is to get items through cards instead of leveling up the conventional way... i wish ff8 would have more recognition among the other ff titles...
I've watched a few of these now and I have been in awe of the patience and determination on your part then saw the ff8 one "ahh one I've done myself!"... nope I've only broken it the boring casual way before timber: levelling siefer on dollet until you can draw level 3 spells, save scumming killing the robot thing until it drops force armlet (to instantly get rinoa's ultimate weapon when she joins later) then grinding ap and cards (forever in ifrit's cave farming krysta cards for those holy spells whilst avoiding xp) then playing cards to fill the other junctions before catching the train
Good video mate. The work was worth it for me. I love this game and recently pre-ordered the remastered version on PC
The card game can make or break your character builds. Decomposing the cards material are important. That’s how you get powerful.
Rely on a mini game and subquest to build up your characters. Don't fight, gain exp, and level up to make them stronger like every single other RPG ever. Because the enemies get stronger too so you never have any advantage.
Put in a Magic command but make it completely useless because it's a consumable item instead of having MP. It becomes your equipment so try and cast any spells and it weakens you.
Square made some really weird decisions when it came to gameplay mechanics for FF8. I liked this story, setting, and music but overall I didn't like this game.
I always do this in RPGs and it started with realizing you could get the GFs early by using the console in the classroom. I spent the next 30 hours leveling squall up to 100 in the training area before I met quistis
I thought there would be a battle with ifrit in the end. Where is it?
I remember back on the PSX day I did my own version of powerlevelling. You only need Quezacotl as well, simply farm his ability to turn cards in spells. Then you have to keep playing the cards, I think the guy at the gate at the entrance to Balamb had Abyss Worm. That can in turn lead to Tornado after 1 or 2 changes.
Also, do not get Squall any weapons until you can get his final weapon. His limit breaks are randomized, so if you limit the amount of weapons you get, you get higher chances of obtaining it. You can get it on disc 1 by refining Bros card into adamantine.
You can also get quistis card from the classroom and mini mog from the boy doing the lap around balamb garden early on too
I can get 9999 damage. Its all in the cards. Triple triad.
@Lucid Nonsense at low levels, yes. At medium to high? No. Why waste ultima's OP defense against all elements when you can junction Meteor and get to 255 strength?
RosieSquall wasn’t even aware meteor was that good. I always did ultima on my atk.
Guess what. I just got ff8 remastered. Hell yeah!
I'm a bit disappointed the cards didn't get a re-texture to be sharper.
I'm really really hoping its the steam version with a high res mod😕
With all these remastered hype going on, i'll be pissed if they not remastered suikoden series....
oh my friend, it seems Suikoden will never come back to us, being Konami completely focused on mobile games and other stuff. It looks like the franchise is dead, and being Suikoden 2 my all time favourite, it brings tears to my eyes every time I think about it. Let's cross fingers and hope it returns some day.
Thank you!
@@edmesbo5485 Suikoden 2 is the shit. Nice to the game being mentioned after so long.
@@Demon_eyes_kyo_06 Why is that?? I demand reasons good sir.
@@edmesbo5485 he means that it's good shit
70 hours eh? that's time well spent. I remember being 15 and feeling for the first time, that time Flys when I play final fantasy tactics. That and I had the timer maxxed out at 99:99 for my ff7 first completion. I grew up on final fantasy. Years of my life spent playing them, with no regrets at all.
Bro this is the stuff that keeps me up at night in a sweaty sleepness state. Now I can rest properly thanks to you!
you're welcome, make sure to get a good nights rest at long last.