This!! I went and listened till halfway, and decided to just read the lyrics only lol I genuinely couldn’t, it hits too close home. I’ll revisit it in a week 😂
The fact that mental health wasn’t a conversation for these young kids in the spotlight is absolutely insane. Bless Kenzie and how strong she is. As a person who developed anxiety that young I couldn’t imagine not having access to therapy and being open about my mental health
Knowing from how much Kenzie has grown into a young woman,u can notice how much she matured and how she has dealt with these things.Loved this episode!
This makes me want to go to my friends and digest our feelings and lives together it’s so cool how one conversation can make a major chain of healing together ❤
Thank you Kenzie. I watched Dance Moms occasionally, until the abuse you girls experienced became so evident that I had to turn it off.. Abby was awful - she never seemed to realize the harm she caused, and just went on and on, always justifying her behavior. She was a bully, and you were victimized. I hope our expectations today ae very different. I'm so glad you've sought and benefitted from therapy.
Abby was dreadful, but that the production company egged it on and basically documented the emotional abuse with little thought of the kids emotional well-being is shocking.
At what point do we start to blame the parents that kept their kids in that environment for what seems like it may have been for the money fame and opportunity brought. No one seems to talk about that.
@ALT1308_ regreting something doesn't change her past actions. No mom should put a child through all that for money, she destroyed her daughters childhood.
@samday2534 I never stated my opinion about her it's just common sense , NO MOM SHOULD PUT A CHILD THROUGH ALL THAT SUFFERING FOR MONEY. Yall need therapists, everything is an attack, and you get upset easily if someone says something you don't want to hear
Watching/listening to this podcast has gotten me through so much. Thank you for doing what you do and thank you to the guests for being so vulnerable in such a judgmental world.❤
When Taylor said she used to be a nurse and now she does... this. But then said she doesn't edit the podcast. That's exactly why we all want to marry a rich person. 😂
Idk how we all got teary eyed listening to anatomy, it’s such a girl code that almost every girl relates to, and love how it wasn’t overly complicated and or anything it was just a rant explaining what I remotely felt without knowing how to put it in words
Loved it. I'm big fan of the Zieglers and loved how you treated every topic with respect and empathy. Kenzie is amazing. I would love you to bring Maddie to see her side of the story as well. It was lovely to see and listen to the three of you💕
The moms were under an almost unbreakbable contract. It took Sia to set Melissa, Maddie and Kenzie free. If any of the moms would leave Abby demanded 100s of thousands of dollars and would blackball them in the dancing industry. Stop blaming them. You have no idea how it affected the OG moms sitting there and seeing their child suffer and they couldn’t do anything. They have spoken about it multiple times that that was the situation so for you to sit here and make them look like awful mothers is disgusting. Kelly’s marriage went down the drain because of the show. F you.
That's how I see it too. The production company acted more than irresponsibly, but the mothers supported the whole thing and left their children there. To what extent the fathers are even present and authorised to act when the mother has custody is questionable. But yes, they shouldn't have neglected their care either, that's true.
It was supposed to be a 6 show series- after that they sat down and signed contracts for 6 years. Many of them wanted to pull their kids out but there would be legal repercussions
Is there a reason the hosts are so whispery/soft-spoken? No shade, but it felt more like ASMR than a podcast… Their voices are almost *too* calming like borderline boring.
Heated mattress pads are a lifesaver for when a spouse sleeps cold and one sleeps hot. The mattress pads are divided down the center so one spouse can crank the heat and the other stays cold.
For me, the mother is responsible for the whole thing. She should have protected the children and prevented the catastrophe instead of exposing them to abusive situations for years. Not a single word is said about this. The children had no choice, the mothers did.
This is the first episode I’ve watched and the two Taylor’s vibes in the beginning seemed weird. It felt like when I was younger and walked into the room with my parents who just finished arguing.
Am I the only one confused by T.Lautner saying he has been a fan of Kenzie since he was a child himself? I mean, isn't he like 10 years older than her? Hahaha
Right!? I’m 25 and I know that kenzie is younger than me by 6 years but I remember Taylor Lautner being so much older than me😂(also 6 years) I remember watching dance moms as a young teen so I was like huuuuh???? Taylor is 12 years older than kenzie🤣
I need a moment for the pillowcase ad When she says he’s always warm And his heat radiates when she sleeps next to him And my first thought is Jacob in Eclipse. 26:12
My 7 year old and myself decided to watch all the twilight movies because he's never seen them . My son just walked in the room while I was watching the podcast and goes "He looks like the wolf guy from the vampire movie." I told him "It is the same guy" My son goes "What?! So he's not really a wolf?" Hahaha nice pod guys :)
Taylor was as amused by that breathe in the opening as Remi was...i feel like this episode was one of those "we weren't arguing 10 minutes ago....who was arguing 10 minutes ago?!" Moments.
Why does girl Taylor need to cut down original T.Lautner because he mentioned he used to dance a lil to be a part of the comvo and show interest ..n she has to go with the " he can't count an 8 count!"
Great interview! Maddie is a true gem! Just a word of constructive criticism, watch your video and count the number of times you say the "filler" word, "like". Once you are aware you can work on lessoning the filler word.
Why on earth does he talk in this way. You just want to speed him up, he is so annoying and she uses the word "like" all the time, just stop it! I watched Dance Moms for some time and I saw this and thought it would be interesting to see what Kenzie was up to now. This is such a hard watch with the two presenters, Kenzie was interesting, to see how she has changed and I wanted to find out how she now gets on with her former dance mates.
Made me sad too, those poor babies, and yet all of us commenting on this is going to encourage it :o( all the stuff youtube censors but this is ok to post.... Demented world we live in anymore
I don't understand why kenzie went on instagram live and said that she didn't attend the dance mom reunion because "she and her sister didn't want to rehash/relive the past" and move on....but she talks about dance moms in multiple podcasts? maddie has made it VERY clear that she doesn't want nothing to do with dance moms and she cleared it up in the cosmopolitan magazine for closure and always refers to dance moms as "the show she was on" when she attends interviews and never names the show. but kenzie claims she wants to leave it in the past but talks about the show in interviews and podcasts. idk i just dont get it. kenzie shouldve been at the reunion. i also wish the reunion wasn't just the "OG girls" besides kendall, kalani, and jojo. because maddie, mackenzie, and nia aren't there i wish they had invited asia, brynn, vivi, peyton, the minis (during season 6), or anyone else involved in the show
dance moms was a huge part of her life and how she got famous so of course she's going to get asked about it in interviews! that doesn't mean there is no longer trauma there and that she wants to continue doing it. fans need to accept that the zieglers want to leave dance moms in the past and move on with their lives. they don't owe you any more episodes or anything at all
@@ALT1308_ wdym "leave her alone" i was just making a general inquiry. im a huge fan of the dance moms girls and i was just confused. stop assuming im hating just because i have an opinion. grow tf up
There’s a difference between talking about something you experienced on podcasts and interviews and physically being in an atmosphere (the reunion) to recall it. You can be okay doing one thing regarding something and not something else regarding that same something.
She talks about Dance Moms in relation to her mental health and what has made her who she is today. Going to a cast reunion in person done as a media/entertainment event is a totally different thing and in no way should she be compelled or expected to go.
Nevermind the ABUSE you took from Abbie week and and week out... needlessly and senselessly. Glad you are doing better. I loved watching the show at the end for the dance (would DVR and skip the abuse and drama stuff), but HATED what you girls went through.
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Gosh. Kenzie is just so sweet and down to earth. Just by watching this I can tell she’d be an incredible person to be around.
Not me trying to hold back tears at work hearing her talk about the song because I paused and listened to the song and then came back
This!! I went and listened till halfway, and decided to just read the lyrics only lol I genuinely couldn’t, it hits too close home. I’ll revisit it in a week 😂
That’s awesome !! Her song was so real
Same here
The fact that mental health wasn’t a conversation for these young kids in the spotlight is absolutely insane. Bless Kenzie and how strong she is. As a person who developed anxiety that young I couldn’t imagine not having access to therapy and being open about my mental health
Think it’s general with all child stars her explaining from 6-12 no childhood sounds like jodi sweetin from full house and being lost afterwards
Right
Crazy how
Once the show took off
The producers got crazy greedy
😢😢😢
Poor girls
All them .
Knowing from how much Kenzie has grown into a young woman,u can notice how much she matured and how she has dealt with these things.Loved this episode!
Please try to interview Maddie Ziegler as well! I really love seeing these sisters❤
i absolutely love this podcast. thank you all for being so willing to talk about such vulnerable topics and just being so REAL.
I watched Dance Mom's from the beginning. I felt like Kenzie has grown up and matured in a positive way. I enjoyed this podcast. Thank you.
This makes me want to go to my friends and digest our feelings and lives together it’s so cool how one conversation can make a major chain of healing together ❤
Thank you Kenzie. I watched Dance Moms occasionally, until the abuse you girls experienced became so evident that I had to turn it off.. Abby was awful - she never seemed to realize the harm she caused, and just went on and on, always justifying her behavior. She was a bully, and you were victimized. I hope our expectations today ae very different. I'm so glad you've sought and benefitted from therapy.
Abby was dreadful, but that the production company egged it on and basically documented the emotional abuse with little thought of the kids emotional well-being is shocking.
At what point do we start to blame the parents that kept their kids in that environment for what seems like it may have been for the money fame and opportunity brought. No one seems to talk about that.
So nice to see an interview with someone that has actually watched the show… I’m a huge fan ❤
Poor Kenzie. Her mom kind of lived vicariously through the girls and I don’t think she could have left the show even if she wanted those first years
Her mom regrets the things she did, and MacKenzie and Maddie ziegler have forgiven them, so please leave them alone and let them be
@@ALT1308_they’re not attacking anyone…. All they did was state their opinion. Stop being so god damn sensitive
@ALT1308_ regreting something doesn't change her past actions. No mom should put a child through all that for money, she destroyed her daughters childhood.
@@Izzyln well Kenzie forgives her. That’s all that matters. Your opinion means nothing.
@samday2534 I never stated my opinion about her it's just common sense , NO MOM SHOULD PUT A CHILD THROUGH ALL THAT SUFFERING FOR MONEY. Yall need therapists, everything is an attack, and you get upset easily if someone says something you don't want to hear
Watching/listening to this podcast has gotten me through so much. Thank you for doing what you do and thank you to the guests for being so vulnerable in such a judgmental world.❤
this podcast is so soothing. keep it up you guys, you’re providing a safe and relaxing space for many ♥️
Yes but sometimes I can barely hear them. It's like they have a secret. Lol
@@joycedominguez8997Icl this made me laugh
When Taylor said she used to be a nurse and now she does... this. But then said she doesn't edit the podcast. That's exactly why we all want to marry a rich person. 😂
loveee seeing kenzie she’s so grown up and beautiful
I’m so in love with this episode, Kenzie is obvs an awesome girl and you guys just vibe I loved it
Idk how we all got teary eyed listening to anatomy, it’s such a girl code that almost every girl relates to, and love how it wasn’t overly complicated and or anything it was just a rant explaining what I remotely felt without knowing how to put it in words
She’s sooo kind hearted. I absolutely love her.
Literally remembering her empathy every time someone else was injured, or cried. She has a huge heart ❤️
I love how girl Tay and boy Tay how they are respectful and kind and have a heart of gold and there podcast is one my favorite podcast
Literally screamed when I saw this. Cant wait to watch!!
Never thought I’d hear Taylor Lautner say he was a Dance Moms fan while Mackenzie was sitting across from him!
I love this so much Kenzie is one of my favorites. Next I would love to see Jules and Hayley Leblanc
You know you're an adult when you realize that being home alone and doing things like a nice bath is the best thing in the world 😂 same here girl ❤❤
Taylor lautner really asks THE best questions. good for him
They should’ve had them in therapy since the beginning. Having someone help sort through what is real and what is not could’ve been so helpful😢
Loved it. I'm big fan of the Zieglers and loved how you treated every topic with respect and empathy. Kenzie is amazing. I would love you to bring Maddie to see her side of the story as well. It was lovely to see and listen to the three of you💕
I love dance moms & Kenzie & this is one of the best interviews I’ve seen of one of the girls. You asked great questions🩷
Tay & Taylor your voices are sooooo calming and soothing
Fr I almost fell asleep
First time watching and that was my first thought
It is all their MOTHERS fault. They put them on the show. Allowed it all to happen. Sat there and watched. Cashed those checks!!
The moms were under an almost unbreakbable contract. It took Sia to set Melissa, Maddie and Kenzie free. If any of the moms would leave Abby demanded 100s of thousands of dollars and would blackball them in the dancing industry. Stop blaming them. You have no idea how it affected the OG moms sitting there and seeing their child suffer and they couldn’t do anything. They have spoken about it multiple times that that was the situation so for you to sit here and make them look like awful mothers is disgusting. Kelly’s marriage went down the drain because of the show. F you.
I think it's odd that you're only holding the mothers responsible without acknowledging that the girls have fathers too.
That's how I see it too. The production company acted more than irresponsibly, but the mothers supported the whole thing and left their children there. To what extent the fathers are even present and authorised to act when the mother has custody is questionable. But yes, they shouldn't have neglected their care either, that's true.
@@just-a-generic-username - you’re right! All those fathers are 100% at fault too!
It was supposed to be a 6 show series- after that they sat down and signed contracts for 6 years. Many of them wanted to pull their kids out but there would be legal repercussions
I genuinely love this podcast so much it’s my favorite podcast your both so down to earth and genuine
Is there a reason the hosts are so whispery/soft-spoken? No shade, but it felt more like ASMR than a podcast… Their voices are almost *too* calming like borderline boring.
My new favorite podcast! ❤ also this is so wholesome it’s absolutely what I needed today thank you guys for your content ❤
Love the podcast Soothing and relaxing
have you thought of inviting jennette mccurdy for an interview?
Yes!!! That would be so good 🖤
dude that’s such a good idea
So proud of you Kenzie 💕
This was just amazing kenzie is so sweet and amazing love her so much and you guys are the best ❤
I can’t wait for this one!
Heated mattress pads are a lifesaver for when a spouse sleeps cold and one sleeps hot. The mattress pads are divided down the center so one spouse can crank the heat and the other stays cold.
loved finding more out about kenzie
For me, the mother is responsible for the whole thing. She should have protected the children and prevented the catastrophe instead of exposing them to abusive situations for years. Not a single word is said about this. The children had no choice, the mothers did.
Such a great conversation.
I loveee kenzie
wait and i love this you guys are so sweet
Kenzie, we love you. Sending hugs to you ❤❤❤
one of your best eps so far! i love this sm
Love Kenzie!❤❤
I love that maddie and makinze both say totally so much in interviews love you guys ❤
kenzie was always my fav
My name is Remy and I didn't do the deep breath at the beginning. Imagine my shock when I got called out by name 😅
Its so true
Poor girls man .
i'm likeeee "is that jacob" lmao
This is the first episode I’ve watched and the two Taylor’s vibes in the beginning seemed weird. It felt like when I was younger and walked into the room with my parents who just finished arguing.
feel this in my soul
Stoppp I love hee. I swear you get the best people to come onto the podcast
Am I the only one confused by T.Lautner saying he has been a fan of Kenzie since he was a child himself? I mean, isn't he like 10 years older than her? Hahaha
Same here, the math isnt mathing. Kind of strange lol
He probably started watching when it premiered and he was 19, but didn’t remember exactly what age he was at the time since it was long ago.
Right!? I’m 25 and I know that kenzie is younger than me by 6 years but I remember Taylor Lautner being so much older than me😂(also 6 years) I remember watching dance moms as a young teen so I was like huuuuh???? Taylor is 12 years older than kenzie🤣
I swear I was just thinking the same thing… I was like the math ain’t mathing
Adults watched the show too
I need a moment for the pillowcase ad
When she says he’s always warm
And his heat radiates when she sleeps next to him
And my first thought is Jacob in Eclipse. 26:12
My 7 year old and myself decided to watch all the twilight movies because he's never seen them . My son just walked in the room while I was watching the podcast and goes "He looks like the wolf guy from the vampire movie." I told him "It is the same guy" My son goes "What?! So he's not really a wolf?" Hahaha nice pod guys :)
I love her new song and my parents got divorced when I was 2 years old😢😢😢
Both of you are great interviewers.
Love this podcast and series! Sort of confused why tay says kenzie is another generation, she's just 7 years older so defo gen z both of them🤣
Such a beautiful girl.❤
I love that you had Kenzie on! 🥺🩷 You guys should also have Maddie, Chloe, or Nia on the pod!!
I’m new here, and I don’t listen to podcast and I love this so much. 😇
I love hee for being so real
I felt so bad for Kenzie her own mom was horrible towards her. Always favoring Maddie
OMG you guys are so nice ❤ and kenzie is the best
Yep, went to her music video and played it 2x. 😢
Omg I loved this episode. Can you please bring some other girls form Dance Moms? Such as Chloe Lukasiak or Brooke and Paige Hyland?
this is a crossover i did not expect...
Does anyone else find it kind of funny that McKenzie name was
Talylor but then changed
Taylor(wifey Taylor) you should totally do the voice overs for sleep paralysis stuff 😍 you have THAT voice 🫶🏽
As a dance mom fan i can see why these girls needed therapy loved this episode!
Taylor was as amused by that breathe in the opening as Remi was...i feel like this episode was one of those "we weren't arguing 10 minutes ago....who was arguing 10 minutes ago?!" Moments.
I feel like every time the guy speaks the girl next to him always has something negative to say about what he has to say
i love kenzie
they definitely should’ve always had a mental coach. that’s so sad 💔
It is a great loss because Mackenzie was a great dancer
Love the pod but I wish you guys would speak up. It’s hard to hear clearly what you’re saying with being so soft spoken.
Yall should interview Joshua Bassett!
Count how many times Mrs. Taylor says “like”😭…
ikr
Nice interview. Will you invite Maddie too?
Why does girl Taylor need to cut down original T.Lautner because he mentioned he used to dance a lil to be a part of the comvo and show interest ..n she has to go with the " he can't count an 8 count!"
Is so Sad imagine Lost your love for something that you love...
P.s: i'm forma Brazil, so my english is basic
Taylor gets warm at night...*thinking* - don't say it, don't say it... :P
taylor launter talks so quiet i can barely hear him with my volume all the way up and you guys should make better eye contact with the guests lol
Great interview! Maddie is a true gem! Just a word of constructive criticism, watch your video and count the number of times you say the "filler" word, "like". Once you are aware you can work on lessoning the filler word.
This is McKenzie
@@samday2534I guess she was too preoccupied with getting her " constructive" criticism typed in to realize.😂
i love all the dance mom girls but i h8 abby fr
Goodmorning
I love your podcast! A little advice: Taylor you say like like a million times a sentence lol. Maybe you can be more aware of that 😊❤️
Like he really does, lol
Hi baby please invite kristen stewart and rob
that would be so great
Why on earth does he talk in this way. You just want to speed him up, he is so annoying and she uses the word "like" all the time, just stop it!
I watched Dance Moms for some time and I saw this and thought it would be interesting to see what Kenzie was up to now. This is such a hard watch with the two presenters, Kenzie was interesting, to see how she has changed and I wanted to find out how she now gets on with her former dance mates.
I always wondered if the sisters
Still get along
Or cut ties
Maddie, Chloe and Paige have bad anxiety too.
She’s 19?
yes
I honestly did not know that they teach dance in colleges.
Made me sad too, those poor babies, and yet all of us commenting on this is going to encourage it :o( all the stuff youtube censors but this is ok to post.... Demented world we live in anymore
❤❤❤
I don't understand why kenzie went on instagram live and said that she didn't attend the dance mom reunion because "she and her sister didn't want to rehash/relive the past" and move on....but she talks about dance moms in multiple podcasts? maddie has made it VERY clear that she doesn't want nothing to do with dance moms and she cleared it up in the cosmopolitan magazine for closure and always refers to dance moms as "the show she was on" when she attends interviews and never names the show. but kenzie claims she wants to leave it in the past but talks about the show in interviews and podcasts. idk i just dont get it. kenzie shouldve been at the reunion. i also wish the reunion wasn't just the "OG girls" besides kendall, kalani, and jojo. because maddie, mackenzie, and nia aren't there i wish they had invited asia, brynn, vivi, peyton, the minis (during season 6), or anyone else involved in the show
Leave her alone please
dance moms was a huge part of her life and how she got famous so of course she's going to get asked about it in interviews! that doesn't mean there is no longer trauma there and that she wants to continue doing it. fans need to accept that the zieglers want to leave dance moms in the past and move on with their lives. they don't owe you any more episodes or anything at all
@@ALT1308_ wdym "leave her alone" i was just making a general inquiry. im a huge fan of the dance moms girls and i was just confused. stop assuming im hating just because i have an opinion. grow tf up
There’s a difference between talking about something you experienced on podcasts and interviews and physically being in an atmosphere (the reunion) to recall it. You can be okay doing one thing regarding something and not something else regarding that same something.
She talks about Dance Moms in relation to her mental health and what has made her who she is today. Going to a cast reunion in person done as a media/entertainment event is a totally different thing and in no way should she be compelled or expected to go.
pls have maddie on her
Nevermind the ABUSE you took from Abbie week and and week out... needlessly and senselessly.
Glad you are doing better. I loved watching the show at the end for the dance (would DVR and skip the abuse and drama stuff), but HATED what you girls went through.
Imagine TAYLOR LAUTNER fan girling over you!
🙏🌍🙏