Tampa learns lesson after losing ownership of historic Black cemetery to property developer
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- Memorial Park Cemetery is a 104 year old historic Black cemetery. The city of Tampa had plans to own the property but lost control of it after a property developer outbid them in an auction.
Auctioning off a cemetery? That’s the embodiment of a complete devaluation of all human dignity. 💔
Notice exactly WHO thought it was the right thing to do = her face is always front cover for the treachery 💯💯💯. Didn't monitor the auction, didn't counterbid, but planned on buying it back 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
@@sackclothashes2205 I read a biography about Sitting Bull when I was a kid, and remember something about the Lakota taking a US Army deserter prisoner.
As I recollect, he spoke up and said that the deserter wasn't an enemy anymore, and should be treated as a guest.
Anyone else hear something similar?
And I'm not talking about Frank Grouard.
In a rich country, where people and everybody pay taxes, REALLY?
@@saminaneen Yes, me too. Sitting Bull & the Lakota traditions… it’s a way of living I admire.
@@saminaneen Hi, I’ve noticed you made the same comment multiple times. I’m genuinely interested to understand what you mean with regard to this story. Would you explain it to me? Thanks.
OMG!!! That's nice to know that where we buy our family plot it can just be sold off???
Truth Talker yeap. Kind of like Desantis, he sold his soul to the devil. Oops my mistake he gave it to him for free. Or was his soul auctioned off to the highest bidder? How could the most powerful man in the state stand by and let this happen? And he thinks he has what it takes to be President. He doesn't stand a chance.
What's the developers name? Only in Florida would developers even debate if they should even be bidding on that property. I'd get the name of the developers and broadcast it. If they want that publicity they need to stand in it.
$9800 was their bid ??
That's why you need to vote people into office that know what they are doing. This is horrible and could have been prevented.
I believe there are federal laws that prevent uprooting of graves that are less than 100 years old. If that be the case this new owner is out of luck he cannot develop that land
There are not. It's been a common practice for years in America. Unless it was declared to be of historical nature-( which it could have been if they looked into it) it's all up for grabs. These bodies will be moved to ?
That’s wild 😢 Tampa only cares about downtown
That right there shows you how important us Americans are to nothing we are nothing but money and collateral damage for this government that needs to be taken over by the real people Americas
Corporate capitalism
Yep. They don't care no matter what race you are.
Slow learner huh
@@erismana2105 I read a biography about Sitting Bull when I was a kid, and remember something about the Lakota taking a US Army deserter prisoner.
As I recollect, he spoke up and said that the deserter wasn't an enemy anymore, and should be treated as a guest.
Anyone else hear something similar?
And I'm not talking about Frank Grouard.
@@saminaneen I've heard similar stories .
I've got questions... the banks typically won't accept bids for less than what was owed on the mortgage... so if the mortgage was around $9800, why didn't the city buy the property directly from the family?
Also, the city typically places liens on properties that violate code, and often times it's for failure to maintain the property. So, if Tampa was responsible for maintenance of the property, did they not maintain it in order to put the lien on it & force a foreclosure?
It sounds like the city forced a foreclosure in order to buy the land for as little as possible, cutting the family out of any money from the sale.
Also, the new owner can't really do anything with the property. They'd have to apply to change the zoning in order to develope the land. But I don't think the city of Tampa will approve the zoning changes since they wanted the land.
This is a fine mess the city created.
Why didn't Tampa buy it directly from the family & instead force a foreclosure?? 🤔
exactly! The city basically forced the owner the foreclose then failed to get it even after they had basically stolen it!!!
@@soratbeats that's what you call karma!
@@melissagreene8053 thats what you call democrats!
Going forward?? Someone made money on that scheme. That needs to be checked out.
Jeez. How can you sell a cemetery !!! Disgraceful whether its black or white or any other colour !!!
So the city didn’t think it needed to pay attention to the auction because who would want a cemetery? Fools
Oh no, don't let that fool you. Tampa knows developer's are interested in any and all land available here. This isn't the first time something similar has happened.
Something tells me that this was allowed to happen because of it being a historically Black cemetery. A history of disregard for non-White cemeteries was, and apparently, still is happening in Florida (and the South, in general). This same city has a large area of land in the Seminole Heights section with businesses built over another Black cemetery. Luckily, one of the businesses allowed archeologists to study it.
If a developer builds on this site, buyers need to be made aware of the potential of some bodies being left behind (as they will likely attempt to move them). I wouldn't buy a home there.
The movie Poltergeist comes to mind.
You are correct!
The city never owned the cemetery.. but state law makes it very difficult to move graves
There are multiple state statues that have been violated on this sale. Due to the fact that remains can not be sold and not to mention multiple violations by the city on how they handled this. I think the attorney general what’s to be brought into this loop of violations by Tampa.
Tennessee has 100 year law that cemetery not be sold until last person in grown for 100 years
OMG I am speechless!! What a shame ,shame ,shame !
Dude that's horrible! How does that even happen?
Wait. I can buy a cemetery? Ill maintain it, but for shits and giggles, tell people to “hippity hoppity, get off my property”
Losing black cemeteries are NOT NEW in Tampa. Shame on this City!
That developer has a lot of guts.
He never heard of voodoo?
That developer may have finally caused himself the HARDSHIPS HE NEVER HAD😔
Voodoo isn't real
Leave it up to the City
It would not be in the cities hands if it wouldn't have been neglected by the decendants.
The city agreed to maintain the property, then placed a lien on it to force a foreclosure. It's kinda shady what the city did. I expect the owner put in his bid to teach the city a lesson. They probably didn't want to pay fair market value for the land to the family & thought they'd buy it up real cheap at auction. Tsk, tsk.
If they start destroying then every one should all camp there till they won't anymore. That is straight ridiculous.
Poltergeist!
There should be a federal protection put on all cemeteries. Cemeteries are hallowed ground. No developer, including state or federal should be allowed to touch them. Period.
By that logic all ground is hallowed ground
@@erismana2105 I read a biography about Sitting Bull when I was a kid, and remember something about the Lakota taking a US Army deserter prisoner.
As I recollect, he spoke up and said that the deserter wasn't an enemy anymore, and should be treated as a guest.
Anyone else hear something similar?
And I'm not talking about Frank Grouard.
@@erismana2105 Logic does not happen in this country anymore..sad state of affairs we are in right now..
Usa is always for sale. China be the one buying all these land in USA.
Shameful!! & For only $18,000... 😮 Buyer beware...anything built on this site may have spiritual interruptions!
This is so sad, that the money paid in taxes by the people don't count in taking such a desision. That's completly a shame and people should stand their ground
This new report got me thinking about Deuteronomy 28:16 which states:"Cursed shalt thou be in the city, and cursed shalt thou be in the field." 😕
She isn't sure if she will be able to be buried with her family and ancestors,
That's sad and Tampa dropped the ball they weren't paying attention to this important purchase
Tampa fix this ASAP
To the woman who stood up for her family and so many other families
my deepest heart felt condolences to her and her loved ones at this emotionally difficult time , dear Lord I pray that you comfort this woman in her time of destress and resolve this situation let God's will be done in the name of Jesus Christ of Jerusalem who died on the cross for our sins so that eternal life could be obtained by all that excepts Jesus as their lord and personal savior amen
This is a disgrace to the city of Tampa and needs handled properly or shame on every citezen in this county. Developers half a country away are already making it hard for local families to even buy a home with the laws we have, yet here we are going to let this slide? If there's one thing that is certain it's that we all join the greater majority eventually and if we let a developer follow through we ourselves are lower than whale 💩
Tampa does not protect black people cemetery
Unfortunately you are correct.
The blame rests on the family of the original owner who CHOSE not to handle ownership appropriately. If anyone is angry, be angry at them.
how is that logical? They can't sell their property!?!? The city forced the owner out of business and failed to purchase the property they basically stole.
@@soratbeats Did you not hear the part where when the original owner died the family did not want to take over? Had they stepped up and took some course of appropriate action in the way of, at the very least, transferring ownership this could, and would have, been avoided. THEIR FAULT ENTIRELY.
@@trusound170 lol what? They sold the business and the city forced them to foreclose. Thank God Im not you. I feel bad for your children if you have any.
@@soratbeats Your attempt at personal insults aside, no where in this video did they say what you just said. If you have info you derived from else where than you should cite your source, to spread knowledge, as opposed to attacking people to spew your venom.
It's the owner's family fault😔
This why I am having my body burned and all I asking is my family to take my body back to my home land and pour my ashes into the ocean.
I know people are desperate to find housing in Tampa. If they build on the property people need to simply boycott and not stay there. The developers will make no money from building housing there.
There seems to be something missing.. this doesn't add up..🤔🤔🤔
A cemetery is wasted space in all communities. They would have better use as a nature park with trees, trails, kid's playgrounds.
Your comments are a waste of time and effort. There's always better things for you to do such as playing in rush hour traffic.
It's hard for me to feel bad when black men kill each other at the numbers they do every day. Black men under the age of 45yo could have made all the difference.
Just the men! Imagine if the entire community bought this back.
But they didn't. This is absolutely disgusting. $18,000. Is not alot of money. Sold by your own people AGAIN!!
What does black men killing each other everyday have to do with a black cemetery being bought? Check your statics and do a fact check before you post demeaning comments like that. Also take look at the socioeconomics of that area before you can assume that black men could've put money together to buy back this property. I'm sure most people wasn't made aware when that auction was even going to take place. You speak without producing a thought!
Where's the white cemetery at?🤔
not in a black neighborhood
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Cemeteries and burial in general are a strange practice. It will eventually flood and bodies will be floating. Look at New Orleans during Katrina
Uh, that was New Orleans before Katrina. That's why the bodies are above ground.
@@thetaekwondoe3887 I read a biography about Sitting Bull when I was a kid, and remember something about the Lakota taking a US Army deserter prisoner.
As I recollect, he spoke up and said that the deserter wasn't an enemy anymore, and should be treated as a guest.
Anyone else hear something similar?
And I'm not talking about Frank Grouard.
I told my SO that I want to be buried on our land and a tree planted over my body. Let me be it's nutrients eventually. Also more fun for the future grand kids to visit and climb. Rather than a stone in the ground. Could still do a stone near the tree really. Want it to be a pine and decorated for Christmas too 😂
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This is DISGUSTING. This should NOT be happening to these people or anyone. You have Governor Desantis off somewhere promoting his book when he should be doing his job and putting a stop to this and helping these people get their cemetary back. I thought there was protection for historical sights? This is an outrage. It doesn't get any worse than this and all because of GREED.
What did you do to help besides sit around and be a victim blaming self righteous-unt ?
Yes...it is Ron's fault that black people neglected this cemetery, and it ended up in the hands of the city.
@@subicstationditosailor4053 I read a biography about Sitting Bull when I was a kid, and remember something about the Lakota taking a US Army deserter prisoner.
As I recollect, he spoke up and said that the deserter wasn't an enemy anymore, and should be treated as a guest.
Anyone else hear something similar?
And I'm not talking about Frank Grouard.
Subic Station Dito Sailor This cemetery is more than a century old. Memorial Park was established as a burial place for African American VETERANS of the world war, and many of the soldiers who died in France were laid to rest here. You tell me how many VETERAN cemeteries that you know of that are sold to property developers? The owner who purchased it in 1929 took care of it until his death in 2019. And THAT's why it ended up in the "hands of the city." According to you then YOU are responsible for the care and upkeep of the cemetary your loved ones are buried in. If you don't maintain it then to hell with you and your family members. Dig them up and throw them in the trash because we want a new shopping center. It's not OUR job to maintain you or your family members place of burial. Watch it you may eat your words in more ways than one. Being callus and cold hearted is never becoming. And YES it is Ron's problem.
This falls on the heads of the city. Not the state. The city thought they'd snake the land from the owners & got taught a lesson.
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Shut up
DAMM SHAME. -2
@@petercole8798 Here comes the Plant Steppers & Sunscreens. My Ancestors plight & dignity are apex to me. Get a Dayum life you pasty POSewer!!!!
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@@G_FRE I read a biography about Sitting Bull when I was a kid, and remember something about the Lakota taking a US Army deserter prisoner.
As I recollect, he spoke up and said that the deserter wasn't an enemy anymore, and should be treated as a guest.
Anyone else hear something similar?
And I'm not talking about Frank Grouard.
Chinese own it now.
lmfao
@@soratbeats can you speak and write American English or are you a know it all transgender freak?
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That's what's going on in Tampa They buy a lot of lands because mothers and grandparents have passed and the children's and the grandchildren's on drugs and can't pay the taxes It used to be a lot of blacks in the neighborhood now You see mix Get off them drugs and Pay attention I wonder what's gonna happen to the family that paid For that Lot to Be buried Next To their family since there's a new owner Did they lose that money
This is wonderful. A relic of a racist past can finally be removed and put to better use. Hopefully they put in a McDonalds and BK. At least that would feed the living and put the land to good use.
How about you put your life to good use and not produce any offspring that shares the same ignorant ideology as you. The world would be such a better place if you just glue your lips together and keep your pointless thoughts to yourself.
Republicans that's how it happened.. duh!
It was actually the democrats that run city of Tampa that came up with the scheme to own the land without paying fair market value to the owners & take it over for $9800 to the bank. They offered to maintain it, then put the lien on it to force the foreclosure. Then assumed no one would bid against them. City of Tampa is run by democrats... this is their doing.
Boo hoo
I wonder how many people will cry and attend your funeral when your dead? Based on you posting heartless comments I can already tell the type of person that you are.