Will Dogpack lose all his credibility after this incident? Will Mr. Beast's reputation slowly begin to heal? Will another Celebrity get exposed as a pdf file? Find out in the next episode of... The internet :D
I think the reason people believe Dogpack is because he simply says a lot of stuff. Even if he doesn't have much solid proof, he does lots of yapping which eventually makes people believe him for some reason.
I find it really odd, that people are skeptical about his first two videos. Then he releases the 3rd which he said he kept separate for a reason. And he said he'd heard stuff, and that he said there's a lot of James Warren's in this town. So he said it's probably not true. Then he says that James Warren has done something to a woman. So lets all forget that. The serious thing, everyone blows their shit. So, he's got a pederast for a best friend, a registered offender on his staff, his mother is HR, I mean it's like no one cares about all these things, the moment Dogpack says it may not be this James Warren, because Dogpack has done his own investigation. But the internet doesn't care. It's like this video has wiped the previous two. No he's saying this is what I have, now it's up to the internet sleuths to see if they can uncover more.
@@Trueo9re I totally agree, this video has a lot of bias. Sure, Dogpack might be turning up to be a petty, lying drug addict. However, it seems in his videos he tries to bring viable accusations to the table. Even in his second video when he was "pulling at people's heartstrings", how can people get mad at that? His end goal is clearly to watch Mr. Beast's empire crumble, and he'll use his resources. It takes someone crazy to challenge the biggest youtuber of all time anyway. He may not apologize, and he may be not so diligent with his research. And sure, he can get flamed for that. But for the people who think Mr. Beast is in the clear just because the forerunner of his cancellation turns out to be bonkers, they are as much so. If Mr. Beast had nothing to hide he would respond to the allegations. Not mass delete youtube comments, pay people off, and cease and desist those hurting his public image.
at this point, people deserve a "The internet situation is crazy" video, to expose internet for making it possible for these type of stuff being easy and accessible
i never beleived this in fact, however dogpack said a lot. so likely some of what he said is not false and we should investigate, but trying to criminalize mrbeast until we have 100% undeniable evidence is wrong. innocent until proven guilty. yall idiots on the internet care more about bandwagons, even people who loves dogpack instantly switch side. people are weak willed they need to form their own opinions.
The thing is, we'll have no idea if what he says is true or not, we don't work at MrBeast, we weren't there. And if MrBeast really was innocent, why would he be deleting comments? I do agree that people just immedietly switch sides and jump on bandwagons and throw cancellations right and left
@@varietychan definitely. i think some of what dogpack said is true and mrbeast is silencing it, but i dont think everything is accurate, a lot of it is tho
I literally saw some dude commenting on such remarks as yours with "it's only for legal reasons. Innocent until proven guilty to protect them from us. Guilty until proven innocent to protect us from them." These cancel culture people are just braindead. Like what if i say "elricchristian went to school to massively unalive his classmates", and now you have to prove me wrong :D Cancel culture people will never answer to such comments, they don't think too much, they just want witch hunt
@@varietychanI agree, but he said we don’t need to criminalize Mr Beast, not that we can’t be suspicious of him. It’s obvious that things are going on behind closed doors. However, we can’t really label Mr Beast as a criminal until that is proven.
@@varietychan I don't think that MrBeast's team deleting comments necessarily means that he's guilty. The way I see it, his audience consists of many young people who don't follow drama and so it's simply a logical decision to keep his comments clean so that the impressionable kids don't just assume that he's a bad person based on what TH-cam comments say.
When DogPack posted his first video I immediately thought he was just a guy who wanted to cancel Mr beast and waited for drama to spark up before posting his first video. I was convinced by my friends that he was a credible source, so I believed his videos. It turns out my original suspicions were mostly true.
@@rainbowthelolcat I think a leaked comm inside the company stated that they would only respond once DPack is done with his “exposing”.. they’re preparing to answer it all in one vid.. that’s what I heard from somewhere
@@rainbowthelolcatwhy not? The channel main point is entertainment The moment you see those in an entertainment video made for mostly children makes The video bad
@@DemonicEmperor2023 Ummm that is not any way justification for doing what they did? They are constantly deleting comments because they crit them and also deleting all proof of child lottories and the 'art'.
If dogpack "apologizes," that can be used against him in the court case. He literally can't apologize due to the position he's in (this surmises he gives a shit about not losing in court). Also, whether or not dogpack has used drugs before has nothing to do with what MrBeast may or may not have done. If MrBeast did something wrong, it doesn't get cancelled out because someone different has done something questionable.
@@amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849 no he responded(in youtube) he says that he didn't do anything thats all but he's not showing the logs so we don't know if he's guilty or not you can watch videos about it
He probably still is, but some people are starting to think he didn't do it. Because he threw together a really awful second video where he basically (for all we know) makes up some story about vindictive twitch staff.
It was pretty obvious since the very first video that DogPack was being quite manipulative himself with how he conveyed all the information and the situation. At least he did a good job of exposing Mr Beast's terrible practices and what not, but he clearly did not do it from a sense of justice or anything. Just pure malice. Seeing his past internet activity, the way he acts so aggressive towards people like with Ludwig, the statement on how he was fired for "erratic behavior", the way he's manipulating information, the statement on how he was pleading back for a job back at Mr Beast, a company he apparently hates, it's pretty clear he has some sort of personal grudge against the Mr Beast company. Probably for being fired.
can happen all the time those investigations TH-camrs can fake everything some could be real tho but after some time thye get greedy and want to do things that make them famous
Ah yes,the internet,the place where most of the people are sheep who follow a common thought for a time before it gets old,and start following another that could completly contradict their past thoughts. Its a cycle,they defend,they attack,defend again,attack again,the same people,other people famous people common people,or even bring back dead discussions from years ago just to have something "new" to complain. Ah the internet...
Not much people are speaking out by making a video about DogPack404's mistakes he made at first & things that should be noticed that prove no side in here is good. You're probably one of the first that did in this drama. Kudos
I have autism so I think I am qualified to say it: when a person says something is alleged it has to be taken literally. While I do think Dogpack has some responsibility, I think majority of the responsibility is on the viewer to be rational and educated. Imagine watching something that's purposefully satirical, and it's stated that it's satirical, and people become outraged about how some people think said satirical thing is genuine - it is pretty absurd. Like imagine if we blamed it on the TH-camrs when some of their viewers harass others after all the TH-camr did was report controversy, even after the TH-camr did the whole "I don't condone harassment etc etc"; is this really how it should be?
I have autism too, and no I do not agree entirely. It's clear that there is some level of responsibility yes, but he also should be giving us a ton of solid evidence if he wants us to believe it. And since we never got that and he's just awkwardly said it before confirmation, he lost a ton of credibility for me.
@@somethingwithultra7231 The autism part was more of a joke, I have a problem where I take things too literal, but situations like this it comes in handy. Read what you just told me; "He also should be giving us a ton of solid evidence if he wants us to believe it". This is why I said it's important to take it literally when he said it's allegations. First of all, he is not the one making the allegations, he is forwarding allegations made by other people. Secondly, the point of something being an "allegation" (both with or without evidence) is that it is a claim that has not yet been proven, otherwise it wouldn't be called an allegation. Since the allegations have recently been brought forward it shouldn't be thrown out as false due to a lack of evidence since developments could be made. Furthermore allegations do not require evidence to be made, it only requires evidence to be proven. The point of the video was not meant to prove allegations, only to bring them forward. Perhaps an attempt to get more people to come forward with actual evidence, as you were expecting.
@@somethingwithultra7231 Lastly, I just want to bring up an example of what I mean.. So there are people criticising the part about James Warren where it is alleged that he is abusive and dogpack shows there are charges against *a* "James Warren", saying you can't accuse a person of something just because they have identical names to someone who is guilty. Rightfully so, people are not guilty of another's crimes simply for sharing their name - however it completely ignores the context that apparently a person made an allegation against *this* James Warren where he is accused of being abusive and having domestic violence charges against him, and dogpack himself literally explains that the charge shown is not proven to be about *this* James Warren because "it turns out there are a lot of people in North Carolina named James Warren who assault their girlfriends", but also explains that people are currently investigating several charges to see if *this* James Warren does actually have charges against him as the allegation claims. So no, if people manage to miss all that context and believe those charges are for *this* James Warren then it's definitely on them, not dogpack. Let's be real for a moment.. Now I know there are a ton of morons out there and or a ton of people that are affected by groupthink, e.g there are millions of people currently accusing Dr.Disrespect of being a PDF and saying he admitted to it - against the fact that in his admission he never actually admitted to being a PDF and the investigation found no wrongdoing, so you know.. There is a lot of talk about how dogpack needs to be more responsible with allegations (even though all he is doing is bringing allegations forward and stating that they are allegations - and allegations are not the problem, how people react to the allegations is the problem), but have people actually been problematic as a result of these allegations or is this just a ton of criticism for the sake of criticising?
@@somethingwithultra7231 I think the other comment got deleted.. great. If it was deleted for the reason I think it was, it's pretty ironic. Lastly, I want to give an example: People have criticised the part about James Warren where dogpack shows that there is a domestic violence charge against a "James Warren", where he shouldn't link a case to a person simply for having an identical name. Now I would agree with this if dogpack was himself stating that this was evidence that James Warren was guilty, however the people making the criticism are completely ignoring the context. dogpack claims that there is a person making an allegation against this specific James Warren of being abusive & having domestic violence charges, and when he shows the domestic violence charge he himself explains that the charge shown is not proven to be for this subject, states there are several James Warren's with domestic violence charges, and states that there is an ongoing investigation into the charges to try and validate the allegation. If a person managed to miss all of this context, it is for sure the fault of the individual. It's important to remember that there is nothing wrong with allegations (besides intentionally false allegations of course), what is wrong is when people take the allegations and immediately establish a bias or conclusion, then react on said bias or conclusion, even though by definition an allegation is something not yet proven.
This is like when Keemstar accused a innocent old man of doing something illegal and it turns out it wasn't the same person they had the same name but they were not the same person and then he called him poor and after that he said sorry which he got a lot of backlash for if your gonna accuse someone of something you need evidence but if you don't have evidence your gonna get backlash for it.
I mean just one of the allegations being false doesn't mean that "oh mrbeast is in the clear now" I do think this damages dogpack's credibility but that's about it
Oh wow the guy who rushed out back to back hit pieces on Mr beast ‘coincidentally’ immediate after the Ava Kris Tyson situation turned out be unreliable and not doing his due diligence on incredibly serious topics. And is most likely just a disgruntled former employee. Who could have possibly guessed?🙄
One of Dogpack’s videos literally put the words ‘pedophile’ and ‘victims aged from 11’ next to MrBeast’s face - before the video revealed that MrBeast was not the accused and the video was about Jake Weddle being pushed too far in a challenge (that he could leave at any time) by being asked to run a marathon on a treadmill. I put in the comments at the time that Dogpack should change the thumbnail to clarify that he wasn’t calling MrBeast a pedo - no response.
@@Quintessence4444 ya I do think some of dogpacks claim are valid but I've noticed he's doing out of bad intent. Not trying to make things right but to get revenge.
he has proof but he's pushing his own narrative even though some are lackluster he says it's just "allegations" in which he technically means that they are HIS accusations alone
Oh man if that's true i would love to see Jake Weddle get sued into the ground.. how tf can you be this much of an asshole to someone after losing but still getting 300k anyway?
@@Sigma29-do9hxyeah but before this video and the actual truth, people were hating on Jimmy like he's Hitler or something but now that this video showed us new meaning.... Now the tables have turned and I'm kinda glad Jimmy is sorta starting to get his redemption back because before all of this.... My literal gut was telling me, "this don't feel right. I feel like packdog is lying" and look at what the truth brought 💀💀💀
I didn't really like Dogpacks 2nd or 3rd video on Beast. It felt like all the actually juicy stuff that Mr Beast should be held accountable for was in the first video, and now that he's uploading these other, weaker videos, and apparently spreading misinformation now, just completely ruined any momentum he had with the 1st actual good expose.
Stucky's video that says "The Guy Cancelling MrBeast actually has no evidence" The 1st video was complete BS from the start. And Dogpack getting fired just after 3 weeks makes his credibility go from 6 to 1. He wasn't put at a high position for him to "know" the things he does since he was there for just 3 weeks before getting fired
Pegasus explained himself that he was just evaluating the video, I still see no reason for people such as you to give him shit, he made it easier to get the information rather than watching a whole movie about Mr beast allegedly doing some bad shit
@@stuckyplucky oh, my bad then. I'm a fan too and I get pretty defensive about this since he is one of the most real tubers I know, especially since people are giving him shit for doing what he does
@@yjraptorwhat I think he meant by saying this to Pegasus was mostly jokes or memes where people says this man has been milking the hell out of the situation by making atleast 9 videos just about mrbeast excluding the Kris Tyson situation.
@@tanvirsourav83 DogPack made one mistake and you say "exposed" Don't act like the allegations of Miss Beast aren't true. He's not biased, he makes videos on the main thing, why would he look at the ops if the ops aren't known and are just a bunch of Miss beast enthusiasts?
To be honest, Jake talking on the 2nd video just cancelled a whole lot of talking points Dogpack had on the first video he uploaded. He made it look that Mr.Beast was putting his crew in the challenges and "allegedly" favoring them because he knows them.. But Jake, whom, Jimmy knows never got the same treatment? To Jake, who has experienced all those "bad" things, I feel for him at first.. But everytime he speaks about this, it just feels that he lost the challenge and just sour that he did not get the full 300k. Lol.. It was explained on the second challenger that he'd get 10k per day that he stays there, im pretty sure the mechanics were the same for Jake. He got paid 110k for staying there 11 days.. Why is he expecting 300? Hmmm
I heard what he said about the challenge and I was thinking "still worth it for 110K". The alternative way to get 110K would be to get a job and work for years. That would be much worse than an 11 day challenge. MrBeast provided an opportunity if anything. Also his "sleep deprivation" point doesn't really make sense because anyone who's been awake for 20-30 hours before would know that your body eventually forces you to sleep even if it's really bright. I also think people need to remember that it's supposed to be a challenge, not just an easy giveaway.
@@yougoslavia exactly.. All I can see is he simply was just unable to complete the challenge.. if anything, that’s more toxic.. it is like an ex who keeps on “exposing” you because you did not give her what she wants..
Dogpack is definitely a super fan who got his dream job and screwed it up and is now going after beast for revenge. Even with all that though, he has helped to uncover some stuff with Beast like Delaware and Lacoya Hill. We can’t discount everything he’s revealed just because he does crazy stuff and messed up some points.
Honestly, I think we should always be critical since it's hard to know when things are presented in TH-cam video form how much is true or not. This is also the case for MrBeast and however he responds. For example, it's really easy to fake any receipts in the form of text messages or screenshots of a website (like if a TH-camr shows how many likes or dislikes they have with a screenshot). It's unfortunately just hard to know. The best way to know would be if it goes to trial and there is a discovery phase. That's not to say we can't believe someone, it just means we should keep in mind it's hard to know. Like my impression of dogpack is that he wants to expose MrBeast, but he also isn't an actual investigator, so he make mistakes. Not sure if he lies on purpose or is just not doing a good job. My own bias is that he isn't lying as much as being bad at getting his sources, but that's because I'm bad at reading people and I have an inmate distrust of mega rich people like MrBeast, so I'm not going to claim I'm objective in any way. Either way, just saying everything here warrants some distrust.
Like I love small creators as they are honestly better then people milking content we are not lawyers to be able to understand what documents Mr beast just addressed so we can’t say we know as we don’t we are not lawyers
I've been sceptical about most of it since the guy doesn't seem trustworthy. Idk everything he said but i'm waiting to see how it escalates or ends before i really believe any of it. It could all be true but more than half likely isn't. I do no longer plan to get amazon prime or whatever his show is on though.. because i really don't like the silence towards the allegations. I wasn't eager to do so either way but i would've only to support his channel because i really like the way he does charity.
Where were these skeptical people on the 1st Dogpack video? All I saw back then were comments mostly fully trusting Dogpack, and people flaming you for suggesting that perhaps, not all his claims were valid.
I'm gonna be honest, I never really believed dogpack myself, cuz when I saw a clip of his video where his face was like right in the camera I just knew this guy looked high AF and was just going on a rant to try and get the biggest youtuber ever cancelled just because he was fired, and I don't think people will just fire people for no reason unless they're ACTUALLY a* holes. I mean seriously, that's just like someone that uses hacks in a game to cheat, getting banned and then going on a rant saying they "didn't do anything wrong to get banned" when in reality, they did because they used hacks to cheat in the game. idk man, this whole thing is just out of hand to me.
Is this the only thing people have found? Because a lot of his stuff was victim accounts kept private and the whole thing with jake weddle is still awful ☹️
So im still confused on why jake the Viking said anything... Like why do I have a feeling pack dog and jake did this to get jimmy in trouble only for it to backfire so badly. I feel like there are still some pieces of this confusing puzzle we dont have yet....💀🤷
Well by the video, mostly but some people do think pack dog could be right with some things Mr. Beast did but for the most part, yeah pack dog's is just as finish as Mr. Beast when all of this started nearly two months ago. I'm just glad my goat Jimmy sorta got his get back... Even if pack dog lied almost everything 💀
@@sheevhernandez3869 Enough is proven at this point. Mr beast isn't going to get any good rep back. It simply means dogpack is also possibly a scumbag.
I found the whole "crime against the Geneva Convention" bit bloody hillarious. First of all, Mr. Beast can't break the Geneva Convention, because that is a convention (actually, more than one) detailing how nations must handle (among others) PoW, wounded, civilians... during a war. They are inter-nation-conventions. Mr. Beast isn't a nation, he's a private person (well, Jimmy is, Mr. Beast is a trademark at that point). Secondly, even if he could break the Geneva Conventions, the participant was willingly subjecting himself to the challenge and was free to leave at any point in time, so I am personally not even sure if this could be considered torture. What I personally always found suspicious (and have commented on quite a few times already) is that DogPack never gave us a reason why he quit working for Mr. Beast in his original video. He just said that he worked there for three months and that's it. For me this always sounded like a disgruntled ex-employee, who likely got fired and is now trying to get revenge. Seems I was right.
Exactly. Even Dockpack himself said it wasn't breaking the geneva convention, but everyone was too emotional that they completely ignored that bit and continued calling it a "crime against the Geneva Convention".
Which is where alot of the disgruntled info sadly comes from. Because let's be honest, he's not stepping out of his way to delibirately say certain rumors aren't true like that. Besides from when the accusations don't stick and he just says "oop guess not" with a half assed response. Ironically that's probably gonna be his downfall though.
He's always had this problem since the first video, but there were alot of things sprinkled in through there that you could just ignore in favor of the big stuff. Alot of his section towards Warren is largely rumors and claims, that he'll know people will pass on as fact if we're honest. He has provided alot of pretty interesting stuff and evidence, but he's so stupid about the legal jargon of it all that I actually wonder if he's talked to lawyers about this besides that idiot lawyer YT'er he recommended. Innocent until proven guilty is still very much a thing, even this deep in. And it's only more important that you get your facts right instead of throwing out baseless accusations like this because you thought you got a very damning drama scoop. Because at this rate he's gonna get himself sued into oblivion while losing every bit of credibility he has had.
I think the case for making Jimmy out to be a criminal or a bad guy is, and always has been, completely exaggerated. The lottery aspect is maybe a little questionable but could easily be chalked up to getting bad legal advice or not doing their due diligence, but also; its not a lottery, its a TH-cam channel. But on its face, buying a T-shirt to have a chance of getting a golden ticket or a prize is completely uncontroversial. And yes, just like his videos, Jimmy is allowed to alter the chances of contestants at his discretion. Its his TH-cam channel, its his money, he can do what he wants. He could declare Karl the winner of all future videos and there's still nothing unethical about that. The attacks on his personality are basically all because he's hyper-ambitious, works like a dog, and he has the same expectations of his employees. Are those expectations too high? Probably, but he is allowed to have high expectations and filter out the bare minimum effort type people. And the ex-employees always seem to frame it as if they were kept in a prison against their will, as if they couldn't quit or leave at ANY point. One of the ex-employees in an interview said, after getting fired, "Jimmy even had the fucking audacity to call me after that call and ask if I was okay." WTF. Stuff like this just shows their terrible character rather than Jimmy's. And Jake Weddle is blaming Jimmy for the fact that he voluntarily decided to stay in the challenge. Completely unreasonable. Its like a contestant on Survivor failing a swimming challenge then suing the producers for getting wet. Most of the other allegations are straight up dumb (ooo he used CGI to change something insignificant), or have virtually nothing to do with Jimmy, but dumb people will accuse him just because he's the face of the company. Like people do with all wealthy CEOs. Its so easy on the conscience to blame people who are wealthy and/or successful, even if its unjustified.
Fake lotteries are legit a criminal offense. Doesn’t matter if he got bad legal advice, he still did it. He hired a registered“pdf file” into his company. Which in my personal opinion shows what type of dude and businessman Jimmy is. Women getting sexually harassed by other employees it shows so clearly the toxicity that is in Jimmy’s company. And it the CEO’s responsibility to address this and hold their employees that treat others like that accountable. And no it is not Jimmys money, it is his company’s money
@@visualnovelteller8416he did not "hire" kirs Tyson You can literally say Kris was a co founder of the mrbeast channel he has been there from the start he has been Mr beasts friend years before the channel was even made he did not get hired jimmy made the channel WITH him. I'm not sure why didn't jimmy fire him as soon as he knew he was a pdf file but nonetheless it's not like he actually hired a pdf file I guess he got sad knowing his best friend was a pdf file and could not handle firing him/her.
See, that's the thing I was thinking... In The first video he seemed like he was well informed and was able to back up his claims. It was well put together and consice. And then the 2nd and 3rd video were just "he said, she said". Like the guy from the 2nd video he interviewed was literally reading off a script. The credibility has dropped off hard after the first video. Piecing together evidence, inconsistencies in his stories and my own impressions, I would say the real story goes as follows: He worked for MrBeast. He was fired (I'll leave the reason up for interpretation). He decided to get revenge on his former employer by leaking genuine insider information (first video). The video blew up so he wanted to "ride the wave", even though he only had enough material for the one video. So he started throwing around allegations to cash in on his 15 minutes of TH-cam fame...
Damn, karma came back and got pack dog. Even tho im sorta mixed on jimmy, im so glad pack dog got his ahh in trouble for him "lying" according to this now new drama. Man seeing pack dog getting the same hate like jimmy.... I knew he would get cancelled. Yall have no idea how happy i actually am. At least Jimmy is smiling knowing pack dog should have been honest but he lied. 🤷😗
No, we shouldn't, especially since this is not the only thing he's wrong about. he pushed a false domestic abuse allegation to 2 MILLION PEOPLE. That shit can and will ruin somebody's life.
i love how some people still believe that mrbeast does stuff like illegal lotterys. i cannot believe how stupid people can be, this guy was so suspicious in the beginning, he litterally made a channel JUST so he can expose mrbeast, and the whole entire shroom thing and ludwig interview is absolutely just crazy, i couldve sworn that dogpack404 was like really high or drunk during that interview, he probably thinks he's the prophet of god or smth
He did do some illegal lotteries, but he has since stopped, ever since he found out it was illegal. It's actually a very common mistake among TH-camrs including OG youtubers like Captain Sparkles. It's such a common thing on TH-cam that they just don't do their due diligence and often end up holding illegal lotteries by accident. It's definitely a mistake they should take accountability for, but it's not something so bad you'd cancel or hate them for, (unless it wasn't actually a mistake, but a calculated plan to profit off people, which it likely wasn't in Mr Beast's case). Also, this is 1 example of DogPack being manipulative with the info he conveys. In his first video, he portrayed Mr Beast as if he had absolutely done it on purpose even while knowing, but there is literally no evidence or indication that he did do it on purpose. He also didn't mention how Mr Beast stopped doing illegal lotteries, and instead showed an out of context clip of Mr Beast stating how they were illegal in a podcast, making it seem as if Mr Beast knew but was continuing to hold them. Ironic, since he was accusing Mr Beast for being manipulative, but look at how manipulative he was being himself.
Just to clarify dmt is one of the most potent psychedelics if not the strongest and its way stronger than shrooms, in fact dmt experiences are way more weirder, unexplainable and just kind of idk how to say it also its around 100/200 more potent in weight you have to consume to achieve psychedelic effects in comparison with shrooms which he said he did micro-dosing also dmt experiences tend to alter perceptions, worldview psychological stuff and emotional states too they sometimes tend to be lasting (not only for the 5-30min experience of beinh high on dmt) but for days weeks maybe for someones whole life idk i dont do drugs just really interested in experiences, how they work and stuff as well as history of their usage
@@patrollingthemojavealmostm2698 Better than trusting a 3-week MrBeast Employee who got fired who can't even handle a proper discussion with LUDWIG of all people
@@patrollingthemojavealmostm2698 How is it not looking good for MrBeast? The fact he's not responding and Dogpack is self-destructing shows that Dogpack is the one who's less prepared for an actual case. Given the fact Dogpack dodged Ludwig's question regarding the Yacht thing and when he also said That Surprise Witness wasn't his source WHILE FEATURING HER IN OTHER VIDEOS. Struggling to maintain a proper interview, him getting fired for erratic behavior and constant self-contradiction. You would think someone of average intelligence would see those red flags but no, millions of people bought it.
@@patrollingthemojavealmostm2698 "Why are people coming out with their side of the story?" -Have you considered the possibility that these people are just joining in the bandwagon because it became a trend? It's easy to make your own side of the story if you base it off of what Dogpack said "Why is MrBeast deleting comments?" -He's aware his audience is of the younger bunch, if he allows comments that talk about the drama, then those younger people can see them and just take it at face value without doing proper research "Why is he sending cease and desist letters?" -Because what Dogpack is doing IS IN FACT Defamation. He throws out allegations without a thought like what he did with the James Warren person. He accused an innocent man of Domestic Abuse when ThatSurpriseWitness confirmed she got the wrong guy Anyone with basic critical thinking can see a pattern. Majority of the things thrown at MrBeast started when Dogpack's first vid blew up. If MrBeast really was doing something bad, he would have been cancelled way way way before he even hit 50 Mil subs. The Daily Mail also released the full Cease and Desist letter, something Dogpack didn't do. And the facts that Dogpack STRUGGLES TO DEFEND HIS OWN ACCUSATIONS against Ludwig, and is constantly committing various forms of Self-Contradiction should give red flags that Dogpack does not know what he is doing at all. And he can't make the excuse it's for legal reasons because if he WAS RIGHT then he would have shown them out regardless. Either that or he's always high on shrooms when opening any form of social media. It's a common rule of thumb: "Innocent until proven Guilty"
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Will Dogpack lose all his credibility after this incident? Will Mr. Beast's reputation slowly begin to heal? Will another Celebrity get exposed as a pdf file? Find out in the next episode of... The internet :D
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Wait what did we have for August??
ohh i cant wait for episode three
@@SPTV_RBX I don't know... This may have turned the tables but for now, let's see how this all plays out. I'm legit curious on what will happen next 👀
"PDF file", man it's astounding what TH-cam's comment CS force people to say instead of the real words.
He literally said he wasnt sure and they still are checking why did people 100% belived him 😭
I think the reason people believe Dogpack is because he simply says a lot of stuff. Even if he doesn't have much solid proof, he does lots of yapping which eventually makes people believe him for some reason.
I find it really odd, that people are skeptical about his first two videos. Then he releases the 3rd which he said he kept separate for a reason. And he said he'd heard stuff, and that he said there's a lot of James Warren's in this town. So he said it's probably not true. Then he says that James Warren has done something to a woman. So lets all forget that. The serious thing, everyone blows their shit. So, he's got a pederast for a best friend, a registered offender on his staff, his mother is HR, I mean it's like no one cares about all these things, the moment Dogpack says it may not be this James Warren, because Dogpack has done his own investigation. But the internet doesn't care. It's like this video has wiped the previous two. No he's saying this is what I have, now it's up to the internet sleuths to see if they can uncover more.
@@Trueo9re I totally agree, this video has a lot of bias. Sure, Dogpack might be turning up to be a petty, lying drug addict. However, it seems in his videos he tries to bring viable accusations to the table. Even in his second video when he was "pulling at people's heartstrings", how can people get mad at that? His end goal is clearly to watch Mr. Beast's empire crumble, and he'll use his resources. It takes someone crazy to challenge the biggest youtuber of all time anyway.
He may not apologize, and he may be not so diligent with his research. And sure, he can get flamed for that. But for the people who think Mr. Beast is in the clear just because the forerunner of his cancellation turns out to be bonkers, they are as much so.
If Mr. Beast had nothing to hide he would respond to the allegations. Not mass delete youtube comments, pay people off, and cease and desist those hurting his public image.
@@yoloboy721 he wasn't lying. James warren truly is a pos. Like you have no idea.
@@Trueo9re 100% AGREE.
Finally people realize allegations aren't automatically true
Unfortunately, content hunters outnumber guys like the one in this channel.
The tides are not turning, the whole metaphorical beach is going catty-wompus. Everyone's got skeletons in their closet here
yeah
at this point, people deserve a "The internet situation is crazy" video, to expose internet for making it possible for these type of stuff being easy and accessible
Cant wait for that one guy who made like 8 mr beast videos milking the drama to also do another 8 on him!
bruh we're milking so much jake weddle went crazy from the smell of it
i never beleived this in fact, however dogpack said a lot. so likely some of what he said is not false and we should investigate, but trying to criminalize mrbeast until we have 100% undeniable evidence is wrong. innocent until proven guilty. yall idiots on the internet care more about bandwagons, even people who loves dogpack instantly switch side. people are weak willed they need to form their own opinions.
The thing is, we'll have no idea if what he says is true or not, we don't work at MrBeast, we weren't there. And if MrBeast really was innocent, why would he be deleting comments? I do agree that people just immedietly switch sides and jump on bandwagons and throw cancellations right and left
@@varietychan definitely. i think some of what dogpack said is true and mrbeast is silencing it, but i dont think everything is accurate, a lot of it is tho
I literally saw some dude commenting on such remarks as yours with "it's only for legal reasons. Innocent until proven guilty to protect them from us. Guilty until proven innocent to protect us from them." These cancel culture people are just braindead. Like what if i say "elricchristian went to school to massively unalive his classmates", and now you have to prove me wrong :D Cancel culture people will never answer to such comments, they don't think too much, they just want witch hunt
@@varietychanI agree, but he said we don’t need to criminalize Mr Beast, not that we can’t be suspicious of him. It’s obvious that things are going on behind closed doors. However, we can’t really label Mr Beast as a criminal until that is proven.
@@varietychan I don't think that MrBeast's team deleting comments necessarily means that he's guilty. The way I see it, his audience consists of many young people who don't follow drama and so it's simply a logical decision to keep his comments clean so that the impressionable kids don't just assume that he's a bad person based on what TH-cam comments say.
When DogPack posted his first video I immediately thought he was just a guy who wanted to cancel Mr beast and waited for drama to spark up before posting his first video. I was convinced by my friends that he was a credible source, so I believed his videos. It turns out my original suspicions were mostly true.
Well not exactly as he still has a lot of other evidence against him. Why would mrbeast not respond if he is innocent?
@@rainbowthelolcat I think a leaked comm inside the company stated that they would only respond once DPack is done with his “exposing”.. they’re preparing to answer it all in one vid.. that’s what I heard from somewhere
@@johnaldinalam2631 Then why are they deleting all these comments and faking dislikes?
@@rainbowthelolcatwhy not? The channel main point is entertainment
The moment you see those in an entertainment video made for mostly children makes The video bad
@@DemonicEmperor2023 Ummm that is not any way justification for doing what they did? They are constantly deleting comments because they crit them and also deleting all proof of child lottories and the 'art'.
If dogpack "apologizes," that can be used against him in the court case. He literally can't apologize due to the position he's in (this surmises he gives a shit about not losing in court).
Also, whether or not dogpack has used drugs before has nothing to do with what MrBeast may or may not have done. If MrBeast did something wrong, it doesn't get cancelled out because someone different has done something questionable.
First nikocado avocado...
Then docter disrespect...
And now THIS
We are getting outsmarted so much this year...
What happened with Doctor Disrespect? Was he revealed to NOT be a PDF?
@@amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849 no he responded(in youtube) he says that he didn't do anything thats all but he's not showing the logs so we don't know if he's guilty or not you can watch videos about it
@@amaneyugihanako-kunofthesi8849 he responded and made his own allegations
He probably still is, but some people are starting to think he didn't do it. Because he threw together a really awful second video where he basically (for all we know) makes up some story about vindictive twitch staff.
You are DEFINITELY the $1,000,000 lawyer
Proving Someone making false accusations make someone a lawyer
If we go by that does tht make you dog pack lawyer?
@@DemonicEmperor2023 I sentence you to 1 week in meme camp
💀
It was pretty obvious since the very first video that DogPack was being quite manipulative himself with how he conveyed all the information and the situation.
At least he did a good job of exposing Mr Beast's terrible practices and what not, but he clearly did not do it from a sense of justice or anything. Just pure malice.
Seeing his past internet activity, the way he acts so aggressive towards people like with Ludwig, the statement on how he was fired for "erratic behavior", the way he's manipulating information, the statement on how he was pleading back for a job back at Mr Beast, a company he apparently hates, it's pretty clear he has some sort of personal grudge against the Mr Beast company. Probably for being fired.
Truly no heroes in this story.
What? False accusations on YT? Never happened before
can happen all the time those investigations TH-camrs can fake everything some could be real tho but after some time thye get greedy and want to do things that make them famous
what is that never heard of it
the sarcasm 🤣
Ah yes,the internet,the place where most of the people are sheep who follow a common thought for a time before it gets old,and start following another that could completly contradict their past thoughts.
Its a cycle,they defend,they attack,defend again,attack again,the same people,other people famous people common people,or even bring back dead discussions from years ago just to have something "new" to complain.
Ah the internet...
THIS
Not much people are speaking out by making a video about DogPack404's mistakes he made at first & things that should be noticed that prove no side in here is good. You're probably one of the first that did in this drama. Kudos
Chat is this THAT lawyer everyone tsalking bout?
seems like it is
Nope this is just a guy who is telling that someone is making a false accusations while going for a billion dollar company.
@@DemonicEmperor2023 fr fr
@@DemonicEmperor2023 bro do you have a discord? I am disconected right now if you want tell me everything there
speak facts and debunk + exposed a liar mean thats you are lawyer ..... what a world
Ok peep this. How many people make allegations that arent true, but still dont get punished? An ungodly amount
I have autism so I think I am qualified to say it: when a person says something is alleged it has to be taken literally.
While I do think Dogpack has some responsibility, I think majority of the responsibility is on the viewer to be rational and educated. Imagine watching something that's purposefully satirical, and it's stated that it's satirical, and people become outraged about how some people think said satirical thing is genuine - it is pretty absurd. Like imagine if we blamed it on the TH-camrs when some of their viewers harass others after all the TH-camr did was report controversy, even after the TH-camr did the whole "I don't condone harassment etc etc"; is this really how it should be?
They're not gonna be rational and educated because they dgaf about the truth. They just want to make fun of people.
I have autism too, and no I do not agree entirely. It's clear that there is some level of responsibility yes, but he also should be giving us a ton of solid evidence if he wants us to believe it. And since we never got that and he's just awkwardly said it before confirmation, he lost a ton of credibility for me.
@@somethingwithultra7231 The autism part was more of a joke, I have a problem where I take things too literal, but situations like this it comes in handy.
Read what you just told me; "He also should be giving us a ton of solid evidence if he wants us to believe it". This is why I said it's important to take it literally when he said it's allegations.
First of all, he is not the one making the allegations, he is forwarding allegations made by other people.
Secondly, the point of something being an "allegation" (both with or without evidence) is that it is a claim that has not yet been proven, otherwise it wouldn't be called an allegation. Since the allegations have recently been brought forward it shouldn't be thrown out as false due to a lack of evidence since developments could be made. Furthermore allegations do not require evidence to be made, it only requires evidence to be proven. The point of the video was not meant to prove allegations, only to bring them forward. Perhaps an attempt to get more people to come forward with actual evidence, as you were expecting.
@@somethingwithultra7231 Lastly, I just want to bring up an example of what I mean..
So there are people criticising the part about James Warren where it is alleged that he is abusive and dogpack shows there are charges against *a* "James Warren", saying you can't accuse a person of something just because they have identical names to someone who is guilty. Rightfully so, people are not guilty of another's crimes simply for sharing their name - however it completely ignores the context that apparently a person made an allegation against *this* James Warren where he is accused of being abusive and having domestic violence charges against him, and dogpack himself literally explains that the charge shown is not proven to be about *this* James Warren because "it turns out there are a lot of people in North Carolina named James Warren who assault their girlfriends", but also explains that people are currently investigating several charges to see if *this* James Warren does actually have charges against him as the allegation claims. So no, if people manage to miss all that context and believe those charges are for *this* James Warren then it's definitely on them, not dogpack.
Let's be real for a moment.. Now I know there are a ton of morons out there and or a ton of people that are affected by groupthink, e.g there are millions of people currently accusing Dr.Disrespect of being a PDF and saying he admitted to it - against the fact that in his admission he never actually admitted to being a PDF and the investigation found no wrongdoing, so you know.. There is a lot of talk about how dogpack needs to be more responsible with allegations (even though all he is doing is bringing allegations forward and stating that they are allegations - and allegations are not the problem, how people react to the allegations is the problem), but have people actually been problematic as a result of these allegations or is this just a ton of criticism for the sake of criticising?
@@somethingwithultra7231 I think the other comment got deleted.. great. If it was deleted for the reason I think it was, it's pretty ironic.
Lastly, I want to give an example:
People have criticised the part about James Warren where dogpack shows that there is a domestic violence charge against a "James Warren", where he shouldn't link a case to a person simply for having an identical name. Now I would agree with this if dogpack was himself stating that this was evidence that James Warren was guilty, however the people making the criticism are completely ignoring the context. dogpack claims that there is a person making an allegation against this specific James Warren of being abusive & having domestic violence charges, and when he shows the domestic violence charge he himself explains that the charge shown is not proven to be for this subject, states there are several James Warren's with domestic violence charges, and states that there is an ongoing investigation into the charges to try and validate the allegation. If a person managed to miss all of this context, it is for sure the fault of the individual.
It's important to remember that there is nothing wrong with allegations (besides intentionally false allegations of course), what is wrong is when people take the allegations and immediately establish a bias or conclusion, then react on said bias or conclusion, even though by definition an allegation is something not yet proven.
This is like when Keemstar accused a innocent old man of doing something illegal and it turns out it wasn't the same person they had the same name but they were not the same person and then he called him poor and after that he said sorry which he got a lot of backlash for if your gonna accuse someone of something you need evidence but if you don't have evidence your gonna get backlash for it.
Ali Koca was right, just in the wrong way.
I mean just one of the allegations being false doesn't mean that "oh mrbeast is in the clear now" I do think this damages dogpack's credibility but that's about it
I think you should watch more of this guys videos, there are multiple allegations that are false
Oh wow the guy who rushed out back to back hit pieces on Mr beast ‘coincidentally’ immediate after the Ava Kris Tyson situation turned out be unreliable and not doing his due diligence on incredibly serious topics. And is most likely just a disgruntled former employee.
Who could have possibly guessed?🙄
He was actually working on the vid long before she got exposed for those.
One of Dogpack’s videos literally put the words ‘pedophile’ and ‘victims aged from 11’ next to MrBeast’s face - before the video revealed that MrBeast was not the accused and the video was about Jake Weddle being pushed too far in a challenge (that he could leave at any time) by being asked to run a marathon on a treadmill. I put in the comments at the time that Dogpack should change the thumbnail to clarify that he wasn’t calling MrBeast a pedo - no response.
Yeah people just throw the term "pedo" around because it's 2024.
The guy screams disgruntled employee and he's definitely doing this maliciously but he could still be right.
@@Quintessence4444 ya I do think some of dogpacks claim are valid but I've noticed he's doing out of bad intent. Not trying to make things right but to get revenge.
I think that’s referring to the whole Kris Tyson thing.
Tbf it was close to Delaware's face in the thumbnail. That's why it's important to watch the video to know the context.
how does this man only have 814 friends, the mascot may be just a stick figure but like this is a good quality video
im now your 815 friend 🔥
I don't care that he did drugs, but lying about people isn't right
the people who did preform the sting operation on EDP and cancelled him did kinda get cancelled for misconduct and other stuff
the guy had one of those 500 cigarette adapters
first of all, I'll be one of the few to admit I don't like MrBeast and second of all, WTF just happened?
"the guy with no friends" damn you did pegasus dirty but that catch me so out of guard that i couldnt help but laugh
also cool vid,
Quick disclaimer, i love pegasus, i also have no friends
@@stuckypluckyI'll be ur friend bro 😭
Bro its stupid how every1 belived him even after he said "allgetions" like he basicly has no proof for almost anything xd
he has proof but he's pushing his own narrative even though some are lackluster he says it's just "allegations" in which he technically means that they are HIS accusations alone
@@JesseIot didnt dogpack said on twitter he was high on mushroom while making this post or something
Agreed
@@ShouheiSuzukiyeah you are right. But he could have also lied and made that up but hey, he really got karma back for that💀
The illegal lotteries had evidence
Ngl this guy is amazing unfiltered af😂
Oh man if that's true i would love to see Jake Weddle get sued into the ground.. how tf can you be this much of an asshole to someone after losing but still getting 300k anyway?
The Asher Show had Trey Yates and he confirmed James Warren!
MrBeast and DogPack404 have both done stuff wrong, atleast his videos brought light to the gameshow
It was always fake everyone believed that he was a former employee and that mrbeast did bad stuff
What about the kris tyson stuff
@@Rhettroizms that was mainly Chris for being a weirdo
@@Sigma29-do9hxyeah but before this video and the actual truth, people were hating on Jimmy like he's Hitler or something but now that this video showed us new meaning.... Now the tables have turned and I'm kinda glad Jimmy is sorta starting to get his redemption back because before all of this.... My literal gut was telling me, "this don't feel right. I feel like packdog is lying" and look at what the truth brought 💀💀💀
@@sheevhernandez3869 yes
@@sheevhernandez3869 I mean mrbeast does have undeniable evidence of hiding a offender and knowing in of his videos
(this is not an ad btw) but i reccomend watching sponkers oldest video, then you can see what false allegations do to people.
it's literally a losing battle.
Did mrbeast fr just do a parry bro?
I didn't really like Dogpacks 2nd or 3rd video on Beast. It felt like all the actually juicy stuff that Mr Beast should be held accountable for was in the first video, and now that he's uploading these other, weaker videos, and apparently spreading misinformation now, just completely ruined any momentum he had with the 1st actual good expose.
Stucky's video that says "The Guy Cancelling MrBeast actually has no evidence"
The 1st video was complete BS from the start. And Dogpack getting fired just after 3 weeks makes his credibility go from 6 to 1. He wasn't put at a high position for him to "know" the things he does since he was there for just 3 weeks before getting fired
Pegasus explained himself that he was just evaluating the video, I still see no reason for people such as you to give him shit, he made it easier to get the information rather than watching a whole movie about Mr beast allegedly doing some bad shit
I love pegasus by the way. huge fan. i also have no friends.
@@stuckyplucky oh, my bad then. I'm a fan too and I get pretty defensive about this since he is one of the most real tubers I know, especially since people are giving him shit for doing what he does
@@yjraptorwhat I think he meant by saying this to Pegasus was mostly jokes or memes where people says this man has been milking the hell out of the situation by making atleast 9 videos just about mrbeast excluding the Kris Tyson situation.
@@power6487 yeah that's what I'm thinking now
@@tanvirsourav83 DogPack made one mistake and you say "exposed" Don't act like the allegations of Miss Beast aren't true. He's not biased, he makes videos on the main thing, why would he look at the ops if the ops aren't known and are just a bunch of Miss beast enthusiasts?
To be honest, Jake talking on the 2nd video just cancelled a whole lot of talking points Dogpack had on the first video he uploaded.
He made it look that Mr.Beast was putting his crew in the challenges and "allegedly" favoring them because he knows them..
But Jake, whom, Jimmy knows never got the same treatment?
To Jake, who has experienced all those "bad" things, I feel for him at first.. But everytime he speaks about this, it just feels that he lost the challenge and just sour that he did not get the full 300k. Lol.. It was explained on the second challenger that he'd get 10k per day that he stays there, im pretty sure the mechanics were the same for Jake. He got paid 110k for staying there 11 days.. Why is he expecting 300? Hmmm
I heard what he said about the challenge and I was thinking "still worth it for 110K". The alternative way to get 110K would be to get a job and work for years. That would be much worse than an 11 day challenge. MrBeast provided an opportunity if anything. Also his "sleep deprivation" point doesn't really make sense because anyone who's been awake for 20-30 hours before would know that your body eventually forces you to sleep even if it's really bright. I also think people need to remember that it's supposed to be a challenge, not just an easy giveaway.
@@yougoslavia exactly.. All I can see is he simply was just unable to complete the challenge.. if anything, that’s more toxic.. it is like an ex who keeps on “exposing” you because you did not give her what she wants..
tHE DOGPACK SITUATION IS CRAZY
bro hating on beloved Pegasus😡😡🤬
Dogpack is definitely a super fan who got his dream job and screwed it up and is now going after beast for revenge. Even with all that though, he has helped to uncover some stuff with Beast like Delaware and Lacoya Hill. We can’t discount everything he’s revealed just because he does crazy stuff and messed up some points.
basically Syndrome from the Incredibles 😂
2024 is honestly the drama year. can't wait to see what will happen in 2025 lmao
This just proves what I keep saying Dogpack404 is not a credible witness as he’s a disgruntled ex-employee
God.
Well, uhm….
… I don’t know what to think now.
Best to stay neutral man
Same...
never trusted dogpack404 he just seems weird
He looks like he tried to shapeshift into JackSucksAtLife but didn't quite make it.
same here
Don't trust both sides, especially the rich side lol
What's the name of the song in this video?
I can smell immature kids who will now support Mr beast. But opposed and hated them when the expose video came out 😂
I think dogpack said some truth (like this illegal lotteries or smth like that) but he wanted to do too much for what he knew
sadly I'm one of those who kinda believed dogback404
Sus, that’s the only word I can describe Dogpack RN.
How the tables have turns
im starting to doubt dogpack now.. bro srsly started pulling every good and bad idea to keep his life boat afloat
Honestly, I think we should always be critical since it's hard to know when things are presented in TH-cam video form how much is true or not. This is also the case for MrBeast and however he responds. For example, it's really easy to fake any receipts in the form of text messages or screenshots of a website (like if a TH-camr shows how many likes or dislikes they have with a screenshot). It's unfortunately just hard to know. The best way to know would be if it goes to trial and there is a discovery phase.
That's not to say we can't believe someone, it just means we should keep in mind it's hard to know. Like my impression of dogpack is that he wants to expose MrBeast, but he also isn't an actual investigator, so he make mistakes. Not sure if he lies on purpose or is just not doing a good job. My own bias is that he isn't lying as much as being bad at getting his sources, but that's because I'm bad at reading people and I have an inmate distrust of mega rich people like MrBeast, so I'm not going to claim I'm objective in any way.
Either way, just saying everything here warrants some distrust.
Like I love small creators as they are honestly better then people milking content we are not lawyers to be able to understand what documents Mr beast just addressed so we can’t say we know as we don’t we are not lawyers
This is why you try to limit speculation and present only the facts, like what ludwig suggested
dayum dis type of content by a guy with 774 subs thats actually rlly good
bro went from 143 to 727 subs good job man!
it's going to end very soon... dogpack404 dug himself into a deeper and deeper hole now he can't get out (sorry for sound like Dhar man there)
I've been sceptical about most of it since the guy doesn't seem trustworthy. Idk everything he said but i'm waiting to see how it escalates or ends before i really believe any of it. It could all be true but more than half likely isn't.
I do no longer plan to get amazon prime or whatever his show is on though.. because i really don't like the silence towards the allegations. I wasn't eager to do so either way but i would've only to support his channel because i really like the way he does charity.
Where were these skeptical people on the 1st Dogpack video? All I saw back then were comments mostly fully trusting Dogpack, and people flaming you for suggesting that perhaps, not all his claims were valid.
6:58 😭 what are u on about, a 500 cigarettes joke?
Dogpack needs to become Dog Packed Up!
I'm gonna be honest, I never really believed dogpack myself, cuz when I saw a clip of his video where his face was like right in the camera I just knew this guy looked high AF and was just going on a rant to try and get the biggest youtuber ever cancelled just because he was fired, and I don't think people will just fire people for no reason unless they're ACTUALLY a* holes. I mean seriously, that's just like someone that uses hacks in a game to cheat, getting banned and then going on a rant saying they "didn't do anything wrong to get banned" when in reality, they did because they used hacks to cheat in the game.
idk man, this whole thing is just out of hand to me.
He is dumb, but some of his saying should be investigated
Rumors could be a true fact afterall
Is this the only thing people have found? Because a lot of his stuff was victim accounts kept private and the whole thing with jake weddle is still awful ☹️
Op nvm I watched further into the video. Eh I dunno anymore. Just wanna see how it ends 🍿
@@dazed6511I feel like Mr. Beast will be cancelled, but DogPack will also be exposed as a "Clout Chaser"
Wow, this needs way more views, I'm trusting DogPack less every day. Great video!
So im still confused on why jake the Viking said anything... Like why do I have a feeling pack dog and jake did this to get jimmy in trouble only for it to backfire so badly. I feel like there are still some pieces of this confusing puzzle we dont have yet....💀🤷
credibility isnt true only truth is its not false
"not really" on shrooms....could be micro dosing
But in all honesty he DOES look like lightly tripping on that clip of his video
tbf, Jimmy still needs to be cancelled.
Why tho?
@@wOu_fAn333he just a Jimmy hater he's irrelevant
Wait did dogpack get debunked?
Well by the video, mostly but some people do think pack dog could be right with some things Mr. Beast did but for the most part, yeah pack dog's is just as finish as Mr. Beast when all of this started nearly two months ago. I'm just glad my goat Jimmy sorta got his get back... Even if pack dog lied almost everything 💀
@@sheevhernandez3869 so mrbeast was innocent all along
@@FastHealer93199 not necessarily
@@FastHealer93199 Not at all. But some of the things Dogpack alleged about Mr Beast and his employees was wrong.
@@sheevhernandez3869 Enough is proven at this point. Mr beast isn't going to get any good rep back.
It simply means dogpack is also possibly a scumbag.
So funny that Dogpack was able to get attention very interesting... also youtube recommended his video...
I found the whole "crime against the Geneva Convention" bit bloody hillarious. First of all, Mr. Beast can't break the Geneva Convention, because that is a convention (actually, more than one) detailing how nations must handle (among others) PoW, wounded, civilians... during a war. They are inter-nation-conventions. Mr. Beast isn't a nation, he's a private person (well, Jimmy is, Mr. Beast is a trademark at that point). Secondly, even if he could break the Geneva Conventions, the participant was willingly subjecting himself to the challenge and was free to leave at any point in time, so I am personally not even sure if this could be considered torture.
What I personally always found suspicious (and have commented on quite a few times already) is that DogPack never gave us a reason why he quit working for Mr. Beast in his original video. He just said that he worked there for three months and that's it. For me this always sounded like a disgruntled ex-employee, who likely got fired and is now trying to get revenge. Seems I was right.
Exactly. Even Dockpack himself said it wasn't breaking the geneva convention, but everyone was too emotional that they completely ignored that bit and continued calling it a "crime against the Geneva Convention".
Which is where alot of the disgruntled info sadly comes from. Because let's be honest, he's not stepping out of his way to delibirately say certain rumors aren't true like that. Besides from when the accusations don't stick and he just says "oop guess not" with a half assed response. Ironically that's probably gonna be his downfall though.
He's always had this problem since the first video, but there were alot of things sprinkled in through there that you could just ignore in favor of the big stuff. Alot of his section towards Warren is largely rumors and claims, that he'll know people will pass on as fact if we're honest. He has provided alot of pretty interesting stuff and evidence, but he's so stupid about the legal jargon of it all that I actually wonder if he's talked to lawyers about this besides that idiot lawyer YT'er he recommended. Innocent until proven guilty is still very much a thing, even this deep in. And it's only more important that you get your facts right instead of throwing out baseless accusations like this because you thought you got a very damning drama scoop. Because at this rate he's gonna get himself sued into oblivion while losing every bit of credibility he has had.
Based Apple slander 👏❤️🇨🇦
*Samsung Gang*
Holy shit 2024 just chill for a bit it’s every day now with this stuff
9:30
To all the people who say he is mrbeast lawyer
ohhh this was a month ago
I think the case for making Jimmy out to be a criminal or a bad guy is, and always has been, completely exaggerated. The lottery aspect is maybe a little questionable but could easily be chalked up to getting bad legal advice or not doing their due diligence, but also; its not a lottery, its a TH-cam channel. But on its face, buying a T-shirt to have a chance of getting a golden ticket or a prize is completely uncontroversial. And yes, just like his videos, Jimmy is allowed to alter the chances of contestants at his discretion. Its his TH-cam channel, its his money, he can do what he wants. He could declare Karl the winner of all future videos and there's still nothing unethical about that.
The attacks on his personality are basically all because he's hyper-ambitious, works like a dog, and he has the same expectations of his employees. Are those expectations too high? Probably, but he is allowed to have high expectations and filter out the bare minimum effort type people. And the ex-employees always seem to frame it as if they were kept in a prison against their will, as if they couldn't quit or leave at ANY point. One of the ex-employees in an interview said, after getting fired, "Jimmy even had the fucking audacity to call me after that call and ask if I was okay." WTF. Stuff like this just shows their terrible character rather than Jimmy's. And Jake Weddle is blaming Jimmy for the fact that he voluntarily decided to stay in the challenge. Completely unreasonable. Its like a contestant on Survivor failing a swimming challenge then suing the producers for getting wet.
Most of the other allegations are straight up dumb (ooo he used CGI to change something insignificant), or have virtually nothing to do with Jimmy, but dumb people will accuse him just because he's the face of the company. Like people do with all wealthy CEOs. Its so easy on the conscience to blame people who are wealthy and/or successful, even if its unjustified.
Fake lotteries are legit a criminal offense. Doesn’t matter if he got bad legal advice, he still did it.
He hired a registered“pdf file” into his company. Which in my personal opinion shows what type of dude and businessman Jimmy is.
Women getting sexually harassed by other employees it shows so clearly the toxicity that is in Jimmy’s company. And it the CEO’s responsibility to address this and hold their employees that treat others like that accountable.
And no it is not Jimmys money, it is his company’s money
@@visualnovelteller8416he did not "hire" kirs Tyson
You can literally say Kris was a co founder of the mrbeast channel he has been there from the start he has been Mr beasts friend years before the channel was even made he did not get hired jimmy made the channel WITH him.
I'm not sure why didn't jimmy fire him as soon as he knew he was a pdf file but nonetheless it's not like he actually hired a pdf file I guess he got sad knowing his best friend was a pdf file and could not handle firing him/her.
See, that's the thing I was thinking... In The first video he seemed like he was well informed and was able to back up his claims. It was well put together and consice. And then the 2nd and 3rd video were just "he said, she said". Like the guy from the 2nd video he interviewed was literally reading off a script. The credibility has dropped off hard after the first video.
Piecing together evidence, inconsistencies in his stories and my own impressions, I would say the real story goes as follows: He worked for MrBeast. He was fired (I'll leave the reason up for interpretation). He decided to get revenge on his former employer by leaking genuine insider information (first video). The video blew up so he wanted to "ride the wave", even though he only had enough material for the one video. So he started throwing around allegations to cash in on his 15 minutes of TH-cam fame...
It’s the internet continuously switching sides and siding that person, ik it’s f’ed up
I never believed half the stuff didn’t even watch his videos. Just watched others who simplied his long ass videos lol
1min max iknow....😂
ikr like everybody schizo down at mb, damn
Lol I never believed in dogpack404 , now it's time 4 him to pay the price
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
Funny how gullible people on the internet are lol
The real NPCs.
Damn, karma came back and got pack dog. Even tho im sorta mixed on jimmy, im so glad pack dog got his ahh in trouble for him "lying" according to this now new drama. Man seeing pack dog getting the same hate like jimmy.... I knew he would get cancelled. Yall have no idea how happy i actually am. At least Jimmy is smiling knowing pack dog should have been honest but he lied. 🤷😗
He did say he wasn't sure it was the right James Warren IN the video. we should let him cook rq.
No, we shouldn't, especially since this is not the only thing he's wrong about. he pushed a false domestic abuse allegation to 2 MILLION PEOPLE. That shit can and will ruin somebody's life.
2:29 damn bro what did he do 😭🙏
hahahaha
i love how some people still believe that mrbeast does stuff like illegal lotterys. i cannot believe how stupid people can be, this guy was so suspicious in the beginning, he litterally made a channel JUST so he can expose mrbeast, and the whole entire shroom thing and ludwig interview is absolutely just crazy, i couldve sworn that dogpack404 was like really high or drunk during that interview, he probably thinks he's the prophet of god or smth
Not sure about that.
He did do some illegal lotteries, but he has since stopped, ever since he found out it was illegal. It's actually a very common mistake among TH-camrs including OG youtubers like Captain Sparkles. It's such a common thing on TH-cam that they just don't do their due diligence and often end up holding illegal lotteries by accident. It's definitely a mistake they should take accountability for, but it's not something so bad you'd cancel or hate them for, (unless it wasn't actually a mistake, but a calculated plan to profit off people, which it likely wasn't in Mr Beast's case).
Also, this is 1 example of DogPack being manipulative with the info he conveys. In his first video, he portrayed Mr Beast as if he had absolutely done it on purpose even while knowing, but there is literally no evidence or indication that he did do it on purpose. He also didn't mention how Mr Beast stopped doing illegal lotteries, and instead showed an out of context clip of Mr Beast stating how they were illegal in a podcast, making it seem as if Mr Beast knew but was continuing to hold them. Ironic, since he was accusing Mr Beast for being manipulative, but look at how manipulative he was being himself.
Just to clarify dmt is one of the most potent psychedelics if not the strongest and its way stronger than shrooms, in fact dmt experiences are way more weirder, unexplainable and just kind of idk how to say it also its around 100/200 more potent in weight you have to consume to achieve psychedelic effects in comparison with shrooms which he said he did micro-dosing also dmt experiences tend to alter perceptions, worldview psychological stuff and emotional states too they sometimes tend to be lasting (not only for the 5-30min experience of beinh high on dmt) but for days weeks maybe for someones whole life idk i dont do drugs just really interested in experiences, how they work and stuff as well as history of their usage
Im here before you get millions of views, this is a kickstart to your career
Ok
500th sub bro
nice
dogpack got OWNED
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Better than trusting a 3-week MrBeast Employee who got fired who can't even handle a proper discussion with LUDWIG of all people
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Inconsistency and Self-Contradiction
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How is it not looking good for MrBeast? The fact he's not responding and Dogpack is self-destructing shows that Dogpack is the one who's less prepared for an actual case.
Given the fact Dogpack dodged Ludwig's question regarding the Yacht thing and when he also said That Surprise Witness wasn't his source WHILE FEATURING HER IN OTHER VIDEOS.
Struggling to maintain a proper interview, him getting fired for erratic behavior and constant self-contradiction. You would think someone of average intelligence would see those red flags but no, millions of people bought it.
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"Why are people coming out with their side of the story?"
-Have you considered the possibility that these people are just joining in the bandwagon because it became a trend? It's easy to make your own side of the story if you base it off of what Dogpack said
"Why is MrBeast deleting comments?"
-He's aware his audience is of the younger bunch, if he allows comments that talk about the drama, then those younger people can see them and just take it at face value without doing proper research
"Why is he sending cease and desist letters?"
-Because what Dogpack is doing IS IN FACT Defamation. He throws out allegations without a thought like what he did with the James Warren person. He accused an innocent man of Domestic Abuse when ThatSurpriseWitness confirmed she got the wrong guy
Anyone with basic critical thinking can see a pattern. Majority of the things thrown at MrBeast started when Dogpack's first vid blew up. If MrBeast really was doing something bad, he would have been cancelled way way way before he even hit 50 Mil subs. The Daily Mail also released the full Cease and Desist letter, something Dogpack didn't do. And the facts that Dogpack STRUGGLES TO DEFEND HIS OWN ACCUSATIONS against Ludwig, and is constantly committing various forms of Self-Contradiction should give red flags that Dogpack does not know what he is doing at all. And he can't make the excuse it's for legal reasons because if he WAS RIGHT then he would have shown them out regardless. Either that or he's always high on shrooms when opening any form of social media.
It's a common rule of thumb:
"Innocent until proven Guilty"
lmfao... yall both yapsters
Nice vid!