⭐TONY MARTIN STILL BELIEVES THERE'S AN OPORTUNITY FOR BLACK SABBATH TO DO SOMETHING WITH BILL WARD.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- EX BLACK SABBATH SINGER TONY MARTIN WAS INTERVIEWED BY SAKIS FRAGOS OF "ROCK HARD GREECE". WERE MARTIN TOUCHED UPON HIS TIME IN BLACK SABBATH AND THE FINAL DAYS BEFORE THE RETURN OF OZZY OSBOURNE. TONY ALSO BELIEVES THERE IS AN OPORTUNITY FOR BLACK SABBATH TO DO SOMETHING AGAIN WITH DRUMMER BILL WARD.
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Tony Martin is criminally underrated as a singer. The song Headless Cross is a testament to this singing prowress.
His singing and Powell's drumming was incredible on that song. With all due respect to Bill Ward and Appice, Powell will always be my favorite drummer for Sabbath.
That whole album rocks. Cozy has always been my favorite drummer. I know Peart was king, but Cozy just always hit a note with me. I also loved cross purposes. I love I Witness. With Robbie
The whole album was great.
For me, when death calls
He is average,which is why sabbath was in tank.
The Tony Martin era is musically impeccable.
Kudos to Tony Martin for sticking up for Bill Ward!
Bill Ward has stated many times that he holds NO ILL WILL toward anyone in Sabbath....... And Sabbath says to a man in the video for the last show they wished Bill could have played there..... I just think everyone is looking for hate where there is none.
I love the Tony Martin era, my dad has bought every Sabbath album since they first became a band and I remember hearing Headless Cross in the late 80s when my dad bought it and I was immediately hooked.
Tony Martin is a very good guy. Tony's era in Black Sabbath is criminally underrated big time. I love Cross Purposes, and especially The Headless Cross, The Eternal Idol, and TYR alot. The Headless Cross album in my opinion is a MASTERPIECE! I love every song on it, especially When Death Calls. I hate that Tony Martin did not get the recognition that he deserved in his time in Black Sabbath. I am glad that he is finally getting some recognition for his latest album Thorns. It is an amazing album. I can not wait until the Tony Martin era of Black Sabbath albums gets remastered and rereleased with hopefully bonus studio and live songs. I will definitely be buying them.
💯👍
That should be this month May 2024, enjoy!
I urge ALL Sabbath and Heavy Rock fans to check out Tony Martins era, what a vocalist!
Tony Martin is criminally underrated! Such a great singer. Love the albums he recorded with “Sabbath”, even if it was a different band back then. Imho It didn’t work out well because fans expected a different sound from Sabbath and/or wished Ozzy or Ronnie back…
Completely agree with you.
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I agree about the Ozzy part that people didn't give Tony a chance. But essentially Tony is just a smoother edged Ronnie. Thats what Tony wanted,a continuation of the Dio sound. Tony delivered in the studio but faltered a bit live.
He can't even come close to hitting those notes anymore . Go back 10-15 years ago when he was on your . The 2 albums with Sabbath were so polished it was really difficult to do live .
@@careful...Icarus Never saw him live, so I can’t tell. The studio albums are great though. “Thyr” & “Headless Cross” are classics! Even the first one (“Eternal Idol”) with him was great. Tony (Iommi) wanted initially to start a solo career, but the management forced him to use the Black Sabbath banner. That explains the sound of those albums as he wanted to go in another direction.
His new album is incredible.. he’s still got the voice and jeez its heavy
What is the title of the new album? I have everything. Even the bootlegs with Ray Gillan where he sang the eternal idol.
Tony Martin never gets the respect he deserves.
I always liked Tony Martin and his tenure with Sabbath. Album "Tyr" was my first CD I've bought...
Did you have the one with the hidden bonus track "Suffer"?
@@newavatar2947 No it is a "standard" issue with black insert.
@@hexxon77 Ok apparently the copy with the extra track is pretty rare
Great intro to the punch of true cd bit sound, anno mundi is one of the greatest opening tunes of any album and is a true experience and adventure in sounds.
That was the biggest mistake to let Tony Martin go. Tony's voice is amazing and he contributed so much to Sabbath. What a shame a lot of great memories and music when Tony Martin was in. Only hope Tony Iommi can see this and hopefully one day start it up again.
I must say the new remixed albums sound much better and as a long time Black Sabbath fan I think looking back over history it is clear to me that Tony Martin is the best singer the band ever had because of his voice, range and professionalism he is the only one who could or would sing any song on all 19 albums.
A talented singer that is criminally underrated.
Tony Martin was a huge inspiration on my metal work…absolutely love the guy!
Martin ruled
I remember seeing Tony in New York and well seeing is believing he was a great singer ,yes something different but nevertheless kicked ass. Hats off to you Tony for a great show….. keep on rockin
Saw Tony Martin fronting Black Sabbath in '90, '94 & '95!
Brilliant Singer!
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I vote with you- truly unmatchable vocal intricacies, nothing like him
Tony Martin is a great singer
The witch
@@gbh5912 So? What's that got to do with his singing?
@@batphink2655
It's an addition, Gary already stated he is a great singer so why do you want people to just repeat that over and over.
Make your way out of the box
I'm gonna go listen to some Tony Martin Sabbath tonight 🍻
Wise choice!!
..and this is from an Ozzy fan since mid 70s
Martin is a human vocal instrument, the micro-fluxed complexities he materializes in sounds are only heard by the clear.
Tony martin: my favorite Sabbath singer.history did him dirty. While his era didnt have that same commercial record sucess as ozzy or dios? He still their best singer in my opinion
I agree 100%. And even Forbidden(except the first track) is one of my favorite Sabbath albums.
It' a shame that it seems impossible to treat people honestly. But that happened also to the musicians in Osbournes band.
@@thorstenkehde3453 totally agree
@@thorstenkehde3453
Be real, any musician that got a chance to play with ozzys group was propelled to instant, incredible exposure, it's their insecurities and inexperiences that made them play the pity card-
'Shall I leave or shall I go'
It's a jumbled mess to analyze without the confidence of working your way up, so to have sympathy for their sad song is to be a fool because a million musicians would gladly trade places with them in a second and be willing to take on that crossroad compared to never being heard of, that's the reality of those who never make it and can't understand how the lucky few turn on the ones who gave them their big break-
Randy exploited his talents to the maxium at this chance, and earned his name because he gave everything he had to the project
Others get hired, tour and think they are now equal partners?
So many think the music industry is some bunch buddies partying
Headless Cross fue un álbum increíble, Tony Martín aún puede dar su mejor álbum con Iommy, en verdad me gustaría que hicieran algo.
Headless Cross is as good as any of the Dio or non Ozzy albums
lol
Whilst I love Ozzy and Dio, I actually preferred Tony Martin. A truly awesome singer!
We need more Sabbath still.
I really like Cross Purposes
In actuality, Tony Iommi was at his best with Tony Martin!
Imho, he was just getting better as time went on. Some of his best work for me would be on Dehumanizer.. Or some Martin stuff. Very interesting songs like The hand that rocks the cradle, or especially Rusty angels (which is kinda Glamy Iommi) which are fine examples.
You're high
@@csnide6702
Truth, iommi peaked with never say die and first two dio albums
@@andrejz8954 Rusty Angels is a near total copy of Burning Like a Flame by Dokken which came out 8 years prior!
@@ColtraneTaylor listened to it now. Has same vibe, but harmonically/riffs are totally different. Kinda like paranoid and communication breakdown for example. Same type, different structure
I would of loved to have seen an Iommi album with every ex singer and members of sabbath
Such as
Ozzy,Dio,Gillan,Hughes and Martin
But obviously dio is no longer with us but hopefully there’s still some heaven and hell recordings even if it’s rough of dio for their 2nd album or unreleased tracks from ‘the devil you know’
Because iommi is one of my favourite guitar players and sabbath may be my favourite band and even though I’m a much bigger fan of the Ozzy albums I still love the dio stuff with sabbath and heaven and hell and I still love the other albums especially with Tony martin.
To see an album like that with ex members of sabbath for either a sabbath album or a iommi solo album would absolutely be a dream come true for us sabbath fans
A new album with all 4 original members should have happened in the late 90's.
I agree. Maybe they would have had the song Scary Dreams on it.
I guess we can say the closest we ever got to a "new" album from them was the Reunion album, and the only new song that Bill played drums on was Psycho Man.
@@KRS2000 "Selling My Soul" as well.
@@husq48 I read that they used a drum machine on that one track, because the original track they had with Bill was too out of time.
@@KRS2000 ???
@@husq48 It was listed in the notes on the Black Sabbath website under the Reunion album. Also in the album sleeve, where everyone is listed, Bill is credited with "Drums on Psycho Man".
I'll have to go back and check through all of that since I haven't looked at that sleeve or web page in years.
Thorns is a fucking awesome album, Just like all the Sabbath albums Tony was on. Headless Cross is my favorite, but they are all great.
What thorns?
@@andrejz8954 Tony Martin New solo record. Give it a listen on Spotify. You won't be disappointed
Tony Martin's work with Sabbath is outstanding - Forbidden is a little on the weak side but the other albums are brilliant. Not sure what happened between the two Tony's but the fact that Martin's stuff isn't available on digital platforms is a crime in itself.
Agreed, and being blindly loyal to iommi is something I'm done with- he has grand accomplishments beyond any guitarist but has become mundane at most in his new songs, so why make new songs if you are not inspired to create?
Black sabbath used Tony Martin as a hired hand sticking plaster everytime dio. Or ozzy had a tiff…he did some great albums, live tours and I’m glad his albums are being remastered and reissued , long over due and I hope he gets paid this time
Headless cross was awesome I really enjoy the debate on all the Sabbath singers I thought born again with Ian Gillan was great too
I am looking forward to the Tony albums to re released
I love Sabbath but I wouldn't want to be in a band with them.
The Tony Martin-Cozy Powell era seemed stable but unfortunately the band was signed to a label that didn't promote them well or got enough of their albums in store as Iommi himself stated about Headless Cross.
I recognized nothing but great music when Tony Martin came in the picture. Maybe it shouldn't have been called Black Sabbath? But like any business losing or dropping a Band name after working so hard for it forced the SG man to carry on. In my honest opinion some of his greatest guitar work was done with Tony Martin on vocals.
Maybe they could have called it Black Sucketh featuring Tony Martin?
Never mind this…. The most overlooked albums with Iommi were the solo efforts with Glenn Hughes handling the vocals classics in my view
NOW you’re talking!!🤘
Yes and Glenn still has the pipes and can sing as good today as ever, I’m glad Glenn beat his demons and continues to rock today all hail the mighty Glenn hughes
@@matjust5523 Hughes RULEZ!!!
Bill has done reached the age where he doesn't have the energy to play heavy rock music and he's admitted that
Iommi seems interested, Martin is interested, they might get Bobby Rondinelli, and Neil Murray is still around, seems like a pretty solid lineup IMO.
About the name? considering they can´t use the Sabbath name, may I suggest HEADLESS CROSS or ETERNAL IDOL.
How about,
"Leave iommi at home"
He's done, was great but is done-
Greatest guitarist of all time but needs to hang it up
Maybe Black Sucketh?
Bill Ward was offered 5% to Ozzys 60% and Tony and Geezers 35%. The Ardens have been an albatross around Black Sabbath’s neck their whole career. I hope they do a remix of Forbidden. Get Cozy’s drums to sound like on Headless Cross.
Black Sabbath name is owned by Tony Iommi and Ozzy Osborne fifty fifty split anyone else is a paid employee Bill Ward was offered a contract to play on a couple of songs each night on the end tour which he turned down. He then canceled his own shows promoting his Accountable Beasts BWB album for health problems.
Why would Ozzy get more than Tony?
Sharon herself stated in a recent interview that Ozzy and Tony each own half of the Sabbath name. Geezer and Bill are considered 'paid employees '. Which is funny because Ozzy sued Tony over him after 100% control of the Sabbath brand because he's the only member who stayed and never abandoned the band. Ozzy initial claims that he wanted all four original members to own equal rights of Sabbath and yet he gets half while the two don't. No wonder Bill refused to come back. I actually wonder if Iommi wishes he was still with Tony Martin and Cozy Powell.
The truth is, Sharon Osbourne was a major player in Tony Martin's failure in Black Sabbath.
She has been behind many failures........
Exactly! Once she got control of 50% she made it a point to erase everyone else's contributions to the band
Fucking witch always money hungry Ozzie should have found her weakness to End Her witching season.
@@gbh5912 so- you are saying without her Sabbath wouldn't be acknowledged...? 😅🤣😂 riiiight --- she has had SO much to do with how Tony Iommi plays guitar....😅😆😄 Sharon Alden Osborne is a LEECH on the scale of Col. Tom Parker - nothing more /nothing less.
Tony Martin had hard acts to follow in Ozzy Ian Gillan and Dio so i think he did well to hold his own and record those 6 Albums with Sabbath , shame people did not accept him but it was like when Iron Maiden replaced Bruce with Blaze and that never worked as good as Tony Martin with Sabbath.
I consider Forbidden to be one of my overall favorite Martin albums....
Cross Purposes Live is alright, but Tony Martin wasn't doing great vocally that tour. If you listen to bootlegs of any other tour before and after, he's on point. Here's hoping they can release live tracks from the respective tours of these albums as bonus tracks, that would be awesome.
Annu Mundi
Tony Martin is one of the best studio singers, he couldn't sing live if his life was dependent on it.
@yoheff988 you have no vocal or musical training by your comment. I have been playing since I was 16. Both perfusional and have been playing bass guitar and guitar since I was 16. Post a link. One link of your work. I will post 3 of my instrumentals . A crappy mix because they were mixed straight from my 8 track. Hell, play something simple. Mine are all origimals
There’s a typo in the headline of the video; should read Opportunity.
Forbidden is a better album than 13.
100%
To this day I still haven't heard Forbidden, except for 2 tracks. As for 13, I wasn't really impressed. I think The Devil You Know was a far better album.
Exactly, Forbidden is Sabbath's best album since Born Again
@@RockbertoRocks - Umm… no. Not by a long shot. It’s better than 13, but that’s a pretty low bar to clear. There’s no way it’s better than Dehumanizer or any of the other Tony Martin Sabbath albums and I don’t rate it higher than Seventh Star, either. I’d say it’s the second worst Sabbath album, but 13 is at the very bottom.
Both albums were a waste of time, effort & money as much as l hate to say it, Martin era was an embarrassment & an abomination to me.
Since Ozzy can't probably do a whole show anymore, how about a Sabbath reunion, with Ozzy and Tony Martin taking turn singing the songs they were best at?
Tony Iommi and Geezer Butler have retired from touring
@@richardhincemon It wouldn't have to be a tour, just a one or several show event.
1:22 incredible photo so cool
Tony Martin was every bit as good as Dio/ Ozzy
But not as good as Ray gillen.
@@j.reveille6815
Uugh
Forbidden was good!!
Mr. Anthony Philip Hartford
Mr. Anthony Frank Iommi
@Stargazer 2020 - I know several criminals who rate Tony Martin very highly!
Martin Is a real musician, he is involved in music of many styles-
Love iommi but time he hangs it up, he has nothing left to contribute and is a legend and beyond so why putter out.
His new songs have nothing inspiring, Ozzy has to carry the song through and thats cute but not ok for listeners, time iommi enjoys being retired, turning into a senile prick is a bad ending to a spectacular career
I thought they couldn't include The Eternal Idol in the reissues because someone else owns the rights.
The Eternal Idol was on Warner Bros. and still available on CD. The other albums were on IRS and long out of print.
We know Forbidden was remastered, but not yet released. And the master tapes for Born Again have been found, so that's supposed to also get remixed and remastered. When any of this actually gets released is another question all together.
@@michaelkeudel8770 I thought Born Again was remastered and released years ago as a 2 disc special edition. Disc 1 was the album, and disc 2 had demos plus live songs from one of their shows, and then the demo for The Fallen.
Unless that was something else altogether.
@@KRS2000 they didn't have the medter tapes for the remix.
@@michaelkeudel8770 I thought it was The Manor Tapes. Unless I'm thinking of something else.
@Seagull Rock Squawk - Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward accepted Dio as a Sabbath member and that’s all that counts. Why let narrowmindedness get in the way of enjoying great music? Kinda silly, no?
Dio was far better solo
Next to Dio my fav Black Sabbath singer
Glad Tony Martin understands that Black Sabbath is Ozzy and Dio. He's a good back up.
Duhhhh, too bad you are so lost, oh well- good luck finding your way back .
That was depressing?
Sharon Osbourne made sure Tony was gone out the band as usual she has always tries to control everything
What?
What does ozzy's wife have to do with iommi being a c*nt
What I want to know from him is why he went so OTT with the satanic stuff on Headless Cross.
The title should help you, the album is a theme from history and has many biblical connotations spoken of the times.
People always questioned their motives and decisions with good and evil as their platform, to be satanic you'd have to promote it as a benefit which has nothing to do with this album-
@@gbh5912 My question is why it bludgeons you with the satanism instead of approaching it in a more thoughtful way; have you read the lyrics to When Death Calls? Iommi also said in his biography that Martin was too 'in your face' with the subject matter (although he didn't make him change it at the time)
@@M.H.I.A.F.T.
I find no Satanism expressed in that song-
it's actually very Biblical and artistically intense.
If you watch a movie about someone dying and they scream, God help me, does that make it a religious movie?
Also, if they are screaming God help me, it's because the devil is taking their soul for judgment and the person is begging the very one that put the devil in charge of that department is what the song is really about, the first moments leading and into death according to the stories.
Anything iommi has to say about singing should be kept to himself, he has really become an idiot. Martin is a true artist
@johnandjosiedoe Those songs were more of a historical nature than satanic dealing with events that happened in Britain. The way Tyr dealt with Norse Mythology on the following album then Cross Purposes dealing with superstition.
@@richardhincemon I know the title track was, but When Death Calls (in particular), Devil and Daughter, Call of the Wild, and Black Moon are all Satan this, Lucifer that etc
It sad those great riffs were wasted... tony martin just wasn't good enough
Your ears aren't qualified, too bad
yep just a corny run of albums with Tony Martin
I never accept DIO as a Sabbath musician.
They didn’t dare change the band name. Ridiculous.
Don't forget that wench Sharon Osbourne owns 50% of the Sabbath name. Wasn't their fault. That bitch is greedy and wouldn't think twice about suing someone...wouldnt b surprised if she was related to gene simmons
They did change the band name eventually
@@shaunduffy5180 yes, history proves that Ozzy is weak and under her control. But don't mind, when you are so greedy and treat other people so bad, you can't be happy.Every energy you send will come back. She will get what she deserves. We will see...
The kept the name because the only musician that matters that makes sabbath is Iommi.
@@thorstenkehde3453
Glad someone grew balls to protect the name from theirselves, most dope heads sell everything then cry later, she is why all reunited, do you really believe these r+r pricks could pull their inflated egos together and be heard by you- you are actually cutting off the hand that feeds your musical pleasures-
Never listen to him
Are you still holding your breath and stomping your feet?
That is not Sabbath...
He should of never have called it black Sabbath
✟🤘✞⸸⁶⁶⁶⛧Iommi said he fired Tony Martin because he lacks Stage Presence Eddie Trunk That Metal Show Head-Banger's Ball!
But I love those shows:: Cross Purposes (San José Event Center) & Forbidden (Warfield Theater SF) tours, unfortunately they canceled Seventh Star, Eternal Idol, Headless Cross & TYR tours here in San Francisco! Also Geezer Butler at the same time was doing his GZR solo band at Slim's, good times!✟🤘✞⸸⁶⁶⁶⛧
@renecruz8973 Tony Martin was a great addition for Sabbath in the mid eighties and nineties I believe that the Reunion with Ozzy Osborne was inevitable which ended the Tony Martin Era unfortunately. I love all the albums he did with Sabbath and the new material they wrote together 🤘🖤✝️