I feel so bad about Taryne saying the girls would use “skinny” as a compliment to each other and that they’d never compliment her body…it seems like her insecurities were overlooked and she’s finally speaking out about it, which I love! I started having an iffy feeling since they did that one photo shoot and and they had a dress for everyone but not Taryne so she had to make her own :/ I guess I’m finally seeing how being a thicker woman in a house full of health nuts who work out everyday could have affected her and her mental health, but thank goodness she’s in a better place now! Taryne has always been so genuine and relatable to me out of all of their group, so I love hearing her views on things!
Yeah that photo shoot was messed up like they all had gorgeous dresses but Taryne had to make it herself .. they had a stylist and the the stylist who is good at her job would find the most flattering dress on Taryne .. I was mad for her
I have not finished the episode as I write this but I needed to say that I don’t believe it’s actually Taryne’s responsibility to educate Ash, or anyone, about how diet language can negatively affect someone with food/weight related issues. I love both of these girls so much and have been a long time listener/follower but I think Ash could do a bit more to educate herself on this topic - especially for her best friend. We should all attempt to be somewhat aware of how our language affects those around us. Taryne is doing her a favor by educating her but it surely is not her responsibility. I am so glad Taryne has been more open about her struggles and though she may not say it out loud it is obvious that living with a group of girls who value “skinny” over food enjoyment was affecting her. I know I would struggle with this myself. All love on my end. The world is a hard place and we are all just trying to navigate it as best we can. I hope Taryne has been happier since moving in with her brother.
I think Ashley is kind of in denial herself. She also has a health obsession that’s borderline an eating disorder and doesn’t think this obsession is a bad thing, she’s just being “healthy”.
I actually had to stop listening to the episode and take a break because I was catching myself getting upset. I get having to speak up for ourselves but why does it have to be on us to educate people. We take on so much to already on a day to day, for ex: Taryne having to listen to her friends praise “skinny” to then also have to “educate others”. Also, replacing “skinny” with “healthy” is not much different. Skinny doesn’t correlate healthy and fat doesn’t correlate unhealthy. Sigh. But live Taryne and I admire her for speaking about these issues and her experience in such a public platform. Also totally understand what Taryne means when calling herself “thick” and people feeling uncomfortable. Also why is Ashley explaining to Taryn how to handle when someone comments on her body 😭 Why don’t people just learn how to stop commenting on peoples bodies?
@@suzypq1986 super agree with this. We need to stop making any comments on anyone’s body because even if we mean it as a compliment it could be the most hurtful words. I’ve been “congratulated” on “slimming down” when I wasn’t eating, super anxious, was in a super stressful/terrible job, and was barely surviving. I wasn’t “slimming down” I was depressed and overwhelmed. I don’t want to hear what anyone thinks of my body. My body is good and I’m working on taking care of it.
Let’s also get rid of the term “clean eating.” Food isn’t clean or dirty. You want to not eat foods with added hormones or processed food? Cool! Stop calling that clean eating. Just say you don’t want to eat processed food
@@suzypq1986 I honestly considered stopping the episode too but kept listening in hopes that Ash would somehow redeem herself … she did not sadly. I was super disappointed. I agree - I did not like that she kept telling Taryne how to feel or react to peoples comments about her body. As someone who struggles with similar issues I found everything Ash said in this episode to be quite upsetting. I am glad they had the conversation because it’s important and Taryne was able to speak her truth but Ash’s entire section of the episode is a 101 on what not to do if your best friend struggles with food/weight issues.
Ashley has her own set of unhealthy food patterns where she continuously labels any sort of carbs or fat as bad. And anytime Taryn tries to explain what shes feeling, ashley is constantly downplaying her feelings and defending herself. Can you please be a better listener and not jump at every opportunity to give advice to Taryne? Thank you :) I can see how much ashley and alisha impacted the shame that taryne associated with her diet and im so glad she lives with her brothers now who wont judge her every "non-healthy" move :)
I noticed this too and I can’t help but think the reason why Taryne had a hard time with food is because she lived in a household full of people who would only eat salads, then say they felt disgusting after eating like a French fry…it’s sad bc I understand how she felt, it’s hard indulging when you are surrounded by people who think it’s like a sin to do so. I’m not saying this out of hate, I actually love that they brought up this topic despite how hard it is to talk about for some people…
I noticed this too, it made me so frustrated and maybe Taryne didn't even want to hear this but I wish Ashley would just say I hear you and I'm sorry for how hard that was to hear us call each other skinny. That's just one example I remembered but just in general not everything needs to be fixed and you should empathize with them.
She bitched about MSG, and it’s a fucking myth it’s bad. Rooted in racism. And she bitched about big blueberries being “GMO” but doesn’t know what that means
It’s so so so sad how many people struggle with what was talked about in this episode. It’s like every freaking person in our world now is insecure about their body. We need to acknowledge why that is and that as a collective, we are to blame. There is such a need for MASSIVE societal changes. MASSIVE. It is so so sad.
As a plus-size person, I have actively tried to not let what others say about any body, especially my own body, be how I see my body. I am far from perfect and I do sometimes see myself and not like what I see, but I try to challenge myself every time those thoughts pop in my head to ask myself why am I thinking this right now. It always comes down to what I have been taught all my life about how my body should be. I try to look at it through a lense of I want to be able to walk/run and not be out of breath or my body hurting after. I want feeling better physically and not aesthetically because I am beautiful in all the bodies I have been throughout my 22 years. You have to actively challenge myself to get there. It's a journey and it always will be. Every body is beautiful.
Just discovered you ladies. This episode came to me at the exact right time. I have a toxic relationship with food triggered by my upcoming wedding. I have been starving myself and I feel so hollow and tired. I want to get better
I listened this on apple podcast this morning and I just want to say thank you so much Taryn and Ashely!!!! This conversation hit so hard for me and I’m so glad you guys had it! For the first time have been taking leaps and strides on my fitness journey as I work in school to become a nutritionist! I have gained and lost weight drastically in the past and it never stuck because I was always doing due to being so self conscious due to other peoples toxic comments and treating skinny as a compliment! This year for the first time I am truly working out for no one but me and simply because I want to be HEALTHY! And you you know what I AM HEALTHY! I am 12 days into 75 hard and thriving I feel good I look good and I’m excited yo see where this journey takes me! Love you both so much we need more creators like you too and am so thankful for your podcast and TH-cam content! Keep killing it girlies and thank you for using your platform for good!
Yessss Taryne! I also refer to myself as thick. I am significantly heavier than I have ever been. I am also on a journey of self love and I'm learning not to call myself fat and dress in a way that i feel comfortable but I'm not hiding in my clothes. Loves this ep.❤
I listen to a lot of podcasts and i just discovered this one but this is the most honest and the best episode I've heard so far I'm looking forward for more as i felt very understood by both women
Taryne - thank you for sharing this. The part at 38:00 about the stomach stretch marks... i went through the same thing. I saw the first one appear and I had a full blown panic attack. I have way more now and I'm still working through loving them. Thank you for normalizing this
Finding this episode after finally getting to the ua x pb episodes and so thankful I did. I’ve been on both ends of the EDs so I can relate to you both and your journey’s. So thank you to you both for sharing and being so vulnerable. Thank you for educating people on how to be empathetic but also holding yourself accountable to do the work. You are right and people say it all the time, you don’t know what someone is going through so being mindful and kind goes a really long way. 💓
As someone who has been skinny their whole life, I HATE being called that. Like I don't know?! It's not even a compliment, it's usually just a shocking observation. I am not this way on purpose and I wish I could change it, but I can't. In the rare instance where I forget how freakishly thin I am for one damn second, someone has to remind me, even if they're just meeting me for the first time. Also.. don't ask what size someone wears either.. especially when they're at work.. working... rude!
i needed this today, i was about to go workout for the first time after being sick for a couple weeks, and decided to listen to your guy’s podcast (cause i’m that person who listens to podcasts when i workout) and this was the perfect podcast for the occasion. it really inspired me to really look at why i do things and not judge myself and my body so much. as you said, there was a reason you sat down and talked the entire podcast, i was really in need of a raw convo on this topic. i seriously appreciate you guys ❤️
Y'all should do an IG Live for one episode, which you can also record y'alls answers to advice for the youtube channel maybe? i would like another episode like this one. I am one of the citizens who can relate to eating disorder. who ever is dealing with this should not feel alone.
This truly was one of my favourite episodes for sure!! (the first enneagram episode is and always be nr 1 haha) Thanks for sharing you both, have a great day ❤️❤️❤️
I feel so sorry for Taryne. Why is Ashley talking over her and telling her what she feels without actually listening? Perhaps she is defensive because she knows she has her own unacknowledged and untreated ED but she comes across as so unbelievably mean and rude in this.
I feel like a large portion of this topic is sticky . In regards to when Ashley brought up her friend who was decided to lose weight by the time of her wedding, part of me feels like encouraging that behavior can be damaging. I understand that an individual can possess their own goals. But I feel like diet culture and body positivity are societal issues that need to be approached differently. Her friend choosing to lose weight to look good for her husband is just another example of equating shrinkage with good looks. Or worthiness. This is something that so many people are working towards ridding. Especially those in the eating disorder community. No one needs to lose weight to look better. Being smaller never means more good looking. And we have to drill that in. It is such a false narrative that drives our entire society. Saying that losing weight to look good for a wedding is “a beautiful thing” just isn’t helping society as a whole. I get that this is an unpopular opinion and it seems like I’m critiquing details….but someone has to untangle this mess that society has created. And it starts with not encouraging these stupid behaviors
Hopefully they won’t .. on pretty basic Alisha and Remi only talked about themselves and took so much time from them and if I didn’t listen to this podcast I wouldn’t have any idea who they are.. I was so pissed at Alisha for always taking the spotlight.. Taryne didn’t even have a chance to speak like what kind of podcast is not interested in their guests.. I get it they are sisters and roommates and know everything about each other but for us we need to know more about Ashley and Taryne
I feel so bad about Taryne saying the girls would use “skinny” as a compliment to each other and that they’d never compliment her body…it seems like her insecurities were overlooked and she’s finally speaking out about it, which I love! I started having an iffy feeling since they did that one photo shoot and and they had a dress for everyone but not Taryne so she had to make her own :/ I guess I’m finally seeing how being a thicker woman in a house full of health nuts who work out everyday could have affected her and her mental health, but thank goodness she’s in a better place now! Taryne has always been so genuine and relatable to me out of all of their group, so I love hearing her views on things!
Yeah that photo shoot was messed up like they all had gorgeous dresses but Taryne had to make it herself .. they had a stylist and the the stylist who is good at her job would find the most flattering dress on Taryne .. I was mad for her
They’re so problematic
I have not finished the episode as I write this but I needed to say that I don’t believe it’s actually Taryne’s responsibility to educate Ash, or anyone, about how diet language can negatively affect someone with food/weight related issues. I love both of these girls so much and have been a long time listener/follower but I think Ash could do a bit more to educate herself on this topic - especially for her best friend. We should all attempt to be somewhat aware of how our language affects those around us. Taryne is doing her a favor by educating her but it surely is not her responsibility. I am so glad Taryne has been more open about her struggles and though she may not say it out loud it is obvious that living with a group of girls who value “skinny” over food enjoyment was affecting her. I know I would struggle with this myself. All love on my end. The world is a hard place and we are all just trying to navigate it as best we can. I hope Taryne has been happier since moving in with her brother.
I think Ashley is kind of in denial herself. She also has a health obsession that’s borderline an eating disorder and doesn’t think this obsession is a bad thing, she’s just being “healthy”.
I actually had to stop listening to the episode and take a break because I was catching myself getting upset. I get having to speak up for ourselves but why does it have to be on us to educate people. We take on so much to already on a day to day, for ex: Taryne having to listen to her friends praise “skinny” to then also have to “educate others”. Also, replacing “skinny” with “healthy” is not much different. Skinny doesn’t correlate healthy and fat doesn’t correlate unhealthy. Sigh. But live Taryne and I admire her for speaking about these issues and her experience in such a public platform.
Also totally understand what Taryne means when calling herself “thick” and people feeling uncomfortable.
Also why is Ashley explaining to Taryn how to handle when someone comments on her body 😭 Why don’t people just learn how to stop commenting on peoples bodies?
@@suzypq1986 super agree with this. We need to stop making any comments on anyone’s body because even if we mean it as a compliment it could be the most hurtful words. I’ve been “congratulated” on “slimming down” when I wasn’t eating, super anxious, was in a super stressful/terrible job, and was barely surviving. I wasn’t “slimming down” I was depressed and overwhelmed. I don’t want to hear what anyone thinks of my body. My body is good and I’m working on taking care of it.
Let’s also get rid of the term “clean eating.” Food isn’t clean or dirty. You want to not eat foods with added hormones or processed food? Cool! Stop calling that clean eating. Just say you don’t want to eat processed food
@@suzypq1986 I honestly considered stopping the episode too but kept listening in hopes that Ash would somehow redeem herself … she did not sadly. I was super disappointed. I agree - I did not like that she kept telling Taryne how to feel or react to peoples comments about her body. As someone who struggles with similar issues I found everything Ash said in this episode to be quite upsetting. I am glad they had the conversation because it’s important and Taryne was able to speak her truth but Ash’s entire section of the episode is a 101 on what not to do if your best friend struggles with food/weight issues.
Ashley has her own set of unhealthy food patterns where she continuously labels any sort of carbs or fat as bad. And anytime Taryn tries to explain what shes feeling, ashley is constantly downplaying her feelings and defending herself. Can you please be a better listener and not jump at every opportunity to give advice to Taryne? Thank you :) I can see how much ashley and alisha impacted the shame that taryne associated with her diet and im so glad she lives with her brothers now who wont judge her every "non-healthy" move :)
I noticed this too and I can’t help but think the reason why Taryne had a hard time with food is because she lived in a household full of people who would only eat salads, then say they felt disgusting after eating like a French fry…it’s sad bc I understand how she felt, it’s hard indulging when you are surrounded by people who think it’s like a sin to do so. I’m not saying this out of hate, I actually love that they brought up this topic despite how hard it is to talk about for some people…
Exactly. I think Alisha and Ashley should bring up their eating disorders with their therapists
I noticed this too, it made me so frustrated and maybe Taryne didn't even want to hear this but I wish Ashley would just say I hear you and I'm sorry for how hard that was to hear us call each other skinny. That's just one example I remembered but just in general not everything needs to be fixed and you should empathize with them.
She bitched about MSG, and it’s a fucking myth it’s bad. Rooted in racism.
And she bitched about big blueberries being “GMO” but doesn’t know what that means
It’s so so so sad how many people struggle with what was talked about in this episode. It’s like every freaking person in our world now is insecure about their body. We need to acknowledge why that is and that as a collective, we are to blame. There is such a need for MASSIVE societal changes. MASSIVE. It is so so sad.
As a plus-size person, I have actively tried to not let what others say about any body, especially my own body, be how I see my body. I am far from perfect and I do sometimes see myself and not like what I see, but I try to challenge myself every time those thoughts pop in my head to ask myself why am I thinking this right now. It always comes down to what I have been taught all my life about how my body should be. I try to look at it through a lense of I want to be able to walk/run and not be out of breath or my body hurting after. I want feeling better physically and not aesthetically because I am beautiful in all the bodies I have been throughout my 22 years. You have to actively challenge myself to get there. It's a journey and it always will be. Every body is beautiful.
This is my favourite episode ever. Thank you for sharing Taryne and Ashley.
Just discovered you ladies. This episode came to me at the exact right time. I have a toxic relationship with food triggered by my upcoming wedding. I have been starving myself and I feel so hollow and tired. I want to get better
I listened this on apple podcast this morning and I just want to say thank you so much Taryn and Ashely!!!! This conversation hit so hard for me and I’m so glad you guys had it! For the first time have been taking leaps and strides on my fitness journey as I work in school to become a nutritionist! I have gained and lost weight drastically in the past and it never stuck because I was always doing due to being so self conscious due to other peoples toxic comments and treating skinny as a compliment! This year for the first time I am truly working out for no one but me and simply because I want to be HEALTHY! And you you know what I AM HEALTHY! I am 12 days into 75 hard and thriving I feel good I look good and I’m excited yo see where this journey takes me! Love you both so much we need more creators like you too and am so thankful for your podcast and TH-cam content! Keep killing it girlies and thank you for using your platform for good!
Yessss Taryne! I also refer to myself as thick. I am significantly heavier than I have ever been. I am also on a journey of self love and I'm learning not to call myself fat and dress in a way that i feel comfortable but I'm not hiding in my clothes. Loves this ep.❤
I listen to a lot of podcasts and i just discovered this one but this is the most honest and the best episode I've heard so far I'm looking forward for more as i felt very understood by both women
Taryne - thank you for sharing this. The part at 38:00 about the stomach stretch marks... i went through the same thing. I saw the first one appear and I had a full blown panic attack. I have way more now and I'm still working through loving them. Thank you for normalizing this
THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!
Such an important message & conversation!
Truly my favorite episode
Came to watch this episode after watching the ua X pb podcast. Definitely loved the convo. Thank you Tarynne for sharing!
Thanks for being so vulnerable ❤️ ...but man, being a human is just so hard in so many ways 😪
Finding this episode after finally getting to the ua x pb episodes and so thankful I did. I’ve been on both ends of the EDs so I can relate to you both and your journey’s. So thank you to you both for sharing and being so vulnerable. Thank you for educating people on how to be empathetic but also holding yourself accountable to do the work. You are right and people say it all the time, you don’t know what someone is going through so being mindful and kind goes a really long way. 💓
As someone who has been skinny their whole life, I HATE being called that. Like I don't know?! It's not even a compliment, it's usually just a shocking observation. I am not this way on purpose and I wish I could change it, but I can't. In the rare instance where I forget how freakishly thin I am for one damn second, someone has to remind me, even if they're just meeting me for the first time. Also.. don't ask what size someone wears either.. especially when they're at work.. working... rude!
i needed this today, i was about to go workout for the first time after being sick for a couple weeks, and decided to listen to your guy’s podcast (cause i’m that person who listens to podcasts when i workout) and this was the perfect podcast for the occasion. it really inspired me to really look at why i do things and not judge myself and my body so much. as you said, there was a reason you sat down and talked the entire podcast, i was really in need of a raw convo on this topic. i seriously appreciate you guys ❤️
I love love love this episode ladies, thank you for being so open 🤎
Y'all should do an IG Live for one episode, which you can also record y'alls answers to advice for the youtube channel maybe? i would like another episode like this one. I am one of the citizens who can relate to eating disorder. who ever is dealing with this should not feel alone.
best thing to watch right after getting home from a long day of classesssss!!! blesssss🥰😍
A must needed listen 💚
This was really lovely.
This truly was one of my favourite episodes for sure!! (the first enneagram episode is and always be nr 1 haha) Thanks for sharing you both, have a great day ❤️❤️❤️
Best way to end monday
I feel so sorry for Taryne. Why is Ashley talking over her and telling her what she feels without actually listening? Perhaps she is defensive because she knows she has her own unacknowledged and untreated ED but she comes across as so unbelievably mean and rude in this.
I feel like a large portion of this topic is sticky . In regards to when Ashley brought up her friend who was decided to lose weight by the time of her wedding, part of me feels like encouraging that behavior can be damaging. I understand that an individual can possess their own goals. But I feel like diet culture and body positivity are societal issues that need to be approached differently. Her friend choosing to lose weight to look good for her husband is just another example of equating shrinkage with good looks. Or worthiness. This is something that so many people are working towards ridding. Especially those in the eating disorder community. No one needs to lose weight to look better. Being smaller never means more good looking. And we have to drill that in. It is such a false narrative that drives our entire society. Saying that losing weight to look good for a wedding is “a beautiful thing” just isn’t helping society as a whole. I get that this is an unpopular opinion and it seems like I’m critiquing details….but someone has to untangle this mess that society has created. And it starts with not encouraging these stupid behaviors
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I thought pretty basic was going to be on your next pod?
Hopefully they won’t .. on pretty basic Alisha and Remi only talked about themselves and took so much time from them and if I didn’t listen to this podcast I wouldn’t have any idea who they are.. I was so pissed at Alisha for always taking the spotlight.. Taryne didn’t even have a chance to speak like what kind of podcast is not interested in their guests.. I get it they are sisters and roommates and know everything about each other but for us we need to know more about Ashley and Taryne
Interesting
Yaay i am first ❤️❤️❤️ love you guys
wow guys so needed do be educated like this
I think Ashley Alisha and TK should be the first ones getting educated on this
body positivity may be good for mental health, but it's downright awful for physical health. this is awful advice.