I've been restoring bikes for years with the odd engine rebuild and have to say that you have a gift, although I know how most of it all works but I wouldn't be able to explain things nearly as clearly as you do. thanks for sharing this gift with us. great vid as always.
I see have answered a rough total cost question, I was hoping you would. Huge money, but as a long term Aprilia owner and a previous " Ebay-dog " KTM 950 SM restoration I am used to parts prices looking more like the dealers phone number ! Very enjoyable, along with BMW s1000rr refresh and SP 1 restoration, highly recommended viewing. Thanks Dave.
Fair play to you, you must have been a dab hand at finishing those jig saw puzzles of yesteryear! I'm hoping you'll say new KTM bikes are easier to work on..... Excellent tutorial BTW
Ha, parts supercessions...yes. in my experience its usually due to a supplier change, but in some cases it can be due to warranty dept reporting repeat failures to QA/QC who upon investigation perform a redesign or material change on a part which results in a part number change. Better that it's done than not, at least they are taking action.
Saved I’m in 2 minds wheather to get rid of mine seen a fair amount with issuises Had a quickshifter fitted and abs jumped into part gear/ part neutral in 5th gear. , I’d think they be a upgrade mines went bang a curclip came out of grove made a mess
It's really interesting comparing this, to the videos you did of rebuilding an S1000RR engine. The BMW engine I would not hesitate to do myself - this one seems a little daunting 😨
And you'd be right, the BMW engine is built in a very logical and well engineered fashion, the KTM feels a lot more like an old design tweaked to make it bigger. Much more involved to work on
I did an apprenticeship in mechanical engineering, based on industrial gas turbines. But the basics of the mechanics are similar, and I've been taking stuff apart and rebuilding since I was a kid. I like to understand how it all works and for me the best way to learn is to see it in bits
Im puzzled by your remark about the " dry sump " system. You know a lot more than me about motorcycle engines, but surely this engine is wet sump, otherwise there would be an external tank ?. Excellent video again.
The oil has to be pumped into the tank, which could have been anywhere but is cast into the front of the case, so to me it's a dry sump as the oil can't just free flow into it
I have a 990 supermoto. Great fun, have done the all the regular maintenance & repairs. Reading the "other Germans" manual vs USA, Japanese, and UK (Triumph) manuals is entertaining. USA & UK: here's generally how you could do it, and here's the intended result. Japanese: if you do this any other way Godzilla will awaken and destroy Tokyo - do you want to be responsoble for that? Freaking German: we designed it, we built it, We know the Only Way this Will be done. Read, compeehend, or better yet, send it to someone that We have trained. Well, this does help me with my issue - a sloppy/jerky transmission. I learned it doesn't have a primary chain that is stretched. Onward to find the problem....
Hi Dave, Great video series mate. I note you mentioned the revised pinions but I am also interested in the clips themselves, were they the same as the originals or have they been changed as well? Keep up the good work! :D
@@obsession_engineering Do the revised pinions have a bit more undercut on the dogs perhaps? But I I’m hearing what your saying re the quickshifter set-up. Great video’s anyhow👍
A bit over £2000 all in, a replacement engine is a similar cost but could be in just as bad shape. At least this way you know it's right when it's finished
I've been restoring bikes for years with the odd engine rebuild and have to say that you have a gift, although I know how most of it all works but I wouldn't be able to explain things nearly as clearly as you do. thanks for sharing this gift with us. great vid as always.
Thanks for your kind words. Trust me, some bits took more than one take, lol
I see have answered a rough total cost question, I was hoping you would. Huge money, but as a long term Aprilia owner and a previous " Ebay-dog " KTM 950 SM restoration I am used to parts prices looking more like the dealers phone number !
Very enjoyable, along with BMW s1000rr refresh and SP 1 restoration, highly recommended viewing. Thanks Dave.
You have the patience of a saint. What a pain of an engine.
You are a mechanical genius 😁👍🏻. Love watching your vids matey..
Fair play to you, you must have been a dab hand at finishing those jig saw puzzles of yesteryear!
I'm hoping you'll say new KTM bikes are easier to work on.....
Excellent tutorial BTW
Ha, parts supercessions...yes. in my experience its usually due to a supplier change, but in some cases it can be due to warranty dept reporting repeat failures to QA/QC who upon investigation perform a redesign or material change on a part which results in a part number change. Better that it's done than not, at least they are taking action.
Awesome quality content Dave
Saved I’m in 2 minds wheather to get rid of mine seen a fair amount with issuises Had a quickshifter fitted and abs jumped into part gear/ part neutral in 5th gear. , I’d think they be a upgrade mines went bang a curclip came out of grove made a mess
It's really interesting comparing this, to the videos you did of rebuilding an S1000RR engine. The BMW engine I would not hesitate to do myself - this one seems a little daunting 😨
And you'd be right, the BMW engine is built in a very logical and well engineered fashion, the KTM feels a lot more like an old design tweaked to make it bigger. Much more involved to work on
What a complete faff! KTM PITA.has a ring to it!😎
Jesus, sooner you Dave than me!!!
They are all moving Dave. The gears
Great video series. If I ever have issues with my RC8R, can I bring it to you?!
Where did your Training Dave,Your a great Tech.
I did an apprenticeship in mechanical engineering, based on industrial gas turbines. But the basics of the mechanics are similar, and I've been taking stuff apart and rebuilding since I was a kid. I like to understand how it all works and for me the best way to learn is to see it in bits
top vid dave, rather you than me pal, keep safe.
i got the same problem here lost 6 gear , did you use the same haedbolts again ? i orderd new ones .
keep up the good work !
Been a while but I don't remember changing the head bolts
I’m about to go through a similar journey.🤦🏼♂️ what was the rough cost for all of these parts? Tempted to get a full engine replacement. Used.
Best part of £1600 in parts, so a complete engine probably isn't a bad idea
Im puzzled by your remark about the " dry sump " system. You know a lot more than me about motorcycle engines, but surely this engine is wet sump, otherwise there would be an external tank ?. Excellent video again.
The oil has to be pumped into the tank, which could have been anywhere but is cast into the front of the case, so to me it's a dry sump as the oil can't just free flow into it
@@obsession_engineering Thanks for the explanation Dave . Looking forward to the next instalment. Cheers
I have a 990 supermoto. Great fun, have done the all the regular maintenance & repairs. Reading the "other Germans" manual vs USA, Japanese, and UK (Triumph) manuals is entertaining. USA & UK: here's generally how you could do it, and here's the intended result.
Japanese: if you do this any other way Godzilla will awaken and destroy Tokyo - do you want to be responsoble for that?
Freaking German: we designed it, we built it, We know the Only Way this Will be done. Read, compeehend, or better yet, send it to someone that We have trained.
Well, this does help me with my issue - a sloppy/jerky transmission. I learned it doesn't have a primary chain that is stretched. Onward to find the problem....
Any idea why the circlip failed? I love watching you work!
Quickshifter settings and an enthusiastic rider won't have helped, could be as simple as material fatigue. There's no single definite reason
Thank you!
Hi Dave, Great video series mate. I note you mentioned the revised pinions but I am also interested in the clips themselves, were they the same as the originals or have they been changed as well? Keep up the good work! :D
The clips haven't changed (unfortunately). Think a badly set quick shifter was a lot of the problem though
@@obsession_engineering Do the revised pinions have a bit more undercut on the dogs perhaps? But I I’m hearing what your saying re the quickshifter set-up. Great video’s anyhow👍
Blimey, how much is this all going to cost in labour time and cost of parts? Hope the owner has deep pockets
I’m intrigued to know the overall cost of repair? Buying a complete engine can’t be that much more due to the man hours spent and price of parts?
A bit over £2000 all in, a replacement engine is a similar cost but could be in just as bad shape. At least this way you know it's right when it's finished
Think my KTM needs to go away while there's still time!
what a bloody fafff on...! I think they make it difficult so you take it to the KTM dealer to get you charged Loads of Wonga! :(
I won't be buying a 1290... cheers pal..
Austrian engineering being not quite as efficient as German seemingly.