KTM 1290 Superduke Rear Wheel Hub Bearing Change Replacement Gen 1 Gen 2 | HOW TO 4K 2014 2016 2017
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- This is how to change or replace the rear wheel bearings in the Gen 1 KTM 1290 Superduke R.
Sorry its a bit long winded in parts but just skip to the areas you need to. Hope this helps some of you to do it yourself.
Since filming this video I have put another 3k miles on the bike.
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75k miles on my 2014 and i've changed the rear bearings twice, each time rusty and full of water, i hadn't heard of the drain hole mod for gen1s, i might take the hub out and drill the swingarm this weekend. cheers for the vid.
Drilling a drain is a must! Good luck!
75k miles on a Gen 1 Super Duke R? Thats impressive! Do you ride it hard? What issues have you had?
Just did the job tonight, 2014 with 20k miles and could feel the rear shifting around . Your video made it much easier to see the step by step process, hardest part for me was the aluminum carrier corroded with the steel axle so significant effort was needed separate them.
Sounds like you had quite a bit of corrosion! Glad the video helped you and thanks for the support. Gen 1 is still a great bike once the known issues are sorted. 👍
Hey man hope you see this - I am suffering the same problem, how did you get yours separate?
@@robbown164 for mine it took a torch around the splines, penetrating oil, a 5 ton gear puller with an impact, and someone hammering a rod into the back as I used the gear puller and impact. I also had to replace the sprocket carrier and sprocket because the gear puller bent it and the corrosion took a chunk of material off the splines where the corrosion had occurred . On a positive note, last time I took it off replacing the tone ring with a corrected one, it came apart nice and smooth thanks to full coverage with anti seize. Good luck, a pain for sure.
@@Willgoingplaces Ah shit. Well, it aint coming off with a 27oz dead blow and a torch then eh. Thanks for the input man I appreciate the quick response.
Holy shit!
With a Dremel or similar you can grind a small channel from the low point to the hole you drilled 👍👍
Yes you're spot on mate, I actually ended up doing something similar to your suggestion but forgot to add to the film. You can just see at 18:31 the sharp v shape to the left of the hole where I dremelled a small groove in
Best video for this kind of issue, thanks a lot, excellent style! Jepp going for other videos like this. Cheers!
I'm gonna need a frame stand for that... rear wheel stand is gonna be a problem 😁 I've seen folding ladder / ratchet rope constructions holding a bike up that look interesting. Oh wait, I'm gonna need a press too... oh well. Can still do about 95% of the job on my own judging by what I'm seeing in this video. Thanks for making!
A metal bar through the frame where my stand mounts to will do with axel stands, just strap the front wheel down stop it tilting. Take the housing to a garage to press in n out shouldn't cost much. Just give me a shout if u need help, thanks! 👍
Excellent video. Just felt play in the rear wheel of my '15 SDR. Will use this when I finally get chance to replace it but for now, no riding :(
Thanks mate! Is the play bad? Try checking the tightness of the wheel nut 250nm. Good luck!
@@maximusvr46Hey man, I hadn't seen this response! I did check the rear wheel torque and it was to spec. Its now 4 months on and I have the parts arriving in the next week or so, so just doing some studying watching your video over again :)
I used a layer of Denso-tape (waterproof grease impregnated plumbers cloth tape) to fill the void so now mine drains to the hole I drilled. The Dense-tape just sticks in place and never moves. I used a 5.0mm hole and screwed in a 6mm diameter wafer head Torx machine screw with blue thread lock.
sounds good mate!
How the heck is your bike so clean? It's literally spotless. I have mine apart thanks to your video, and it's filthy lol.
I greatly appreciate this video and your work on this, it has helped me immensely. I've been trying to learn and take apart my own gen 1 1290, due to shops seriously messing up repairs in the past. (one shop literally put the rear wheel on without lining them up with the hub studs. How the heck did they manage that?! Could have messed up my wheel with that massive torque lol.
Cheers!
i just keep on top of it, give a a good clean and coat with gt85 and acf50 often. Glad the video has helped you! Yes its hard to trust anyone these days working on your property. Good luck with yours! thanks for the support.
Just about to open up my 2015 model. I was wondering if it would be possible to dremel a groove from the lowest point to the split-line in the swing-arm? Possibly to the LHS so it helps when it's on the sidestand. I love my KTM's but that's pretty poor, drain-hole in the hub but no-one wondered where the water would go? Great video, thanks for giving me the confidence to open it up myself, much appreciated.
I actually did dremel a drain groove in the end to help the drainage. Good point when it's leant over on the side stand. Good luck!
Thanks for your reply👍. Is there a general opinion on how the water is getting in there?
Have a 2014 SDR and had to change the bearings and sprocket etc just now, very costly. Showed me water dripping from the assembly. 22000 kilometers
I wonder if countersinking the holes on the inside would help funnel the water. The surface tension of water might keep it from draining in small amounts. Just speculation but very informative thanks mate!
Yes good idea, i added a comment but didn't show in the video that i dremelled a small groove to act as a channel for the water to flow down you can just see it in one of the clips but yes counter sink would help aswell. Thanks for watching!
@@maximusvr46 I didn’t even think of that, that’s damn smart too!
Excellent video thanks very much I will grease mine soon 👍🏻😎
Thanks for the support!
Seems like you could drill the hole blind and see if any water comes out before changing the bearings
Yes you could, wouldn't do any harm
After all that, once I got the wheel off and climbed under there with the drill the hole was already there! 2017 GT must be second gen after all.@@maximusvr46
I am in the process of changing my hub bearings , but me sprocket carrier is siezed solid to the shaft. I removed the 41mm sprocket carrier nut, but cant get the carrier off the shaft, ive tried heat, WD40, ACF50, striking it with a hammer, can anyone help?
Does anyone know if Gen2 hub can be used on Gen1 bike? Great video mate
Thanks! I too am wondering this. and i think it can as the frame design is the same as gen 1. Tbh the whole swing arm could be used i think from gen 2 and the finish is much nicer.
Top job!
very very good video,thanks.
Parts are $800 roughly, is that same for you ? Seems a bit high. Ktm telling me i need a kit with a hub and bearings pressed already
@pasha_houston not at all! Very expensive that u only need the bearings and press or have them pressed out and in
@@maximusvr46 unfortunately I live in an apartment so work like that wasn't an option for me. KTM dealership here making it sound like pressing in bearings is really difficult and might be a fail and therefore strongly recommended hub with bearings 🤦
I'm beginning to think they are not competent techs. They had me replace the rear brake ( for squeaky brakes concern) twice and now telling me I need a rotor, I was like why wouldnt you check that the first time or the second 😅
Anyway, I'll pay up, but this might be my last trip to this delaship and bottom line I'll have to sell the bike :(
@pasha_houston whats the reason to sell the bike? If you cant or dont have access to work on it yourself then a decent bike garage would be far cheaper
@@maximusvr46 yeah it's tough with servicing KTM in the states. There is a good shop that does aprilia bikes (I used to have one) and if they are willing to do the work on my KTM great, but if not, I can't trust this delaship.
Last time I left there the service light was on and low tire light was on, nobody cared to check, and that's not to mention the diag wasn't done right.
It's hard to find reliable techs I guess, it seems like the only person who cares is the manager there, but he can't do it all by himself lol
@pasha_houston just try and find someone else but ditch that dealership
I have a gen two. The swingarm bolt is very tight in some areas when trying to remove it. Well only 70Nm of force needed to undo it. I'm guessing it's just shite on the threads, should I be able to remove the bolt fully with everything still on the bike... chain & rear wheel? I couldn't see why I shouldn't be able to but with how much force I needed to put on the bolt. I didn't bother, i'm gonna order some penitrating fuild. I want to fully clean the bolt & threads that's why I want it off :)
Yes i dont see why you shouldnt be able to remove the bolt fully, its only a pinch bolt. Have you got the bike up on a rear stand?
@@maximusvr46 Yea, bike is on a rear stand. Looks like the threads on the bolt is messed up, have to order a new one. Gotta love pre owned motorbikes lol I cleaned the inner threads aswell, so hopefully it’ll go in smoothly with the new bolt & clean threads! Just waiting is a pain 😢
@@Near2Future thats a nightmare! u sure the swingarm threads have not also been cross threaded? as its aluminium .....sounds like its been overtightened
Hi what size is the big nut on the sprocket side 42mm? The wheel side is 60mm thanks gonna order up the socket, cheers.
41mm mate
Hey i need a 41mm and a 60mm to Remove its right ?
Yes 60mm and 41mm
Love it mate, cheers!
Thanks for the support!
nice video mate, just curious did you put any water in there just to check that it drains ok ?
Thanks for kind comment and support mate, no i didnt put water in, after assembling it all in the video i was leaving 2 weeks later for a europe trip so didnt really have time to test things. Hopefully will check things out over winter.
Great job 😎🍻
Hi, very good video. Mine has a "rattling" or rather "banging/clicking" noise coming from the rear. I suspect it is a bearing. I have 2019 superduke gt (2nd gen) and it has 22.000km. Must check for a hole. Any extra hints? Thanks a lot
Thanks for support! Yours should have a hole u can just look underneath. No tips really just maybe have a go this winter and strip it down and check or replace 👍
Did you get around to this? My'21 is making the same clunk sound and suspecting the bearings as well
That's gen 3 bike? Have you had tyre changed by anyone? Has it been torqued up to 250nm or 270nm? If gen 3 is 250...
Hi, thank you very much for your video.
I have a 2014 V1 KTM 1290 SUPER DUKE R and yesterday on a ride I could feel the rear kicked out.
There is a slight play in the rear wheel.
So I would like to change my bearings. Do you think it is necessary to change the axle and the hub or just the bearings will do.
Sorry for my English, I'm French.
Hi, thanks for the support! it depends on the condition when you strip it down but i would probably say the axle and hub housing will be ok. If your bearings are really bad then you may see scoring and possible damage on the axle.
@@maximusvr46 Ok I will disassemble following your tutorial. Thank you so much
Do you have a trick to extract and put the new bearings in the hub without a press?
@@Sam55150 no you need to use a press. You should be able to take the housing to a local garage and ask them to do it shouldn't cost much.
Is the one needle bearing tapered on these bikes? Doesnt look to be.
No not on this one, thanks 👍
hey there. at what mileage did you change this?
Hey! This was approx 27k miles, merry Christmas!
@@maximusvr46 merry Christmas to aswell!
44500 miles on my 18.. no issues yet...
That's the Gen 2 i think, they put a drain hole in as KTM recognised it and added the hole from gen 2 but still didn't want to fix gen 1 customers bikes. It still may be worth checking them and re greasing. Keep going to 100k mate! 👍
@@maximusvr46 planned on tearing it apart over the long minnesota winter.. biggest thing is .not power washing near the rear hub unless really needed...great video.. answered any questions I had about tearing into it
@@jimjim753 nice one thanks, good luck with yours!
Gen 2.0 2017, 25000km no problem.
Update......51000 miles cam chain failure front cylinder...... 30+ tackdays