Very useful Phil, thanks. I have a bass guitar (I’m also a guitar player), but bass guitar is notoriously difficult to record and get a good sound, and I usually get a bit bogged down with it. This may be a better option.
@@PhilPendlebury - thank you for replying. I am not a technical person. I play piano well. I can operate a computer and DAW but, much of the other stuff - it takes me longer to learn than it takes others. So as much detail as possible is needed.
If you can play piano well and have knowledge of music, have you considered using a midi keyboard to play a bass line on? Would be much quicker for you.
Exactly what I need ...I can write bass lines on guitar and fire my bassist just kidding but I used to record bass lines on guitar and drop an octave and adjust the eq this really makes things easier
Finally got this audio tracker thing to work and it sounds like total nonsense when importing some of the most simple riffs. It's way easier to just tap it in with a keyboard. It sounds pretty good, but this 'audio tracker' gimmick is crap. 😂
@@PhilPendlebury I may give it another go, but meh, seems more trouble than it's worth because midi tweaking is going to be necessary anyway. I was hoping it would translate slides and things, that's why I wanted to use it. I may just have to get more in-depth with the actual programming. The basses sound great though. I still think audio tracker is a bit convoluted in its design.
Yeah I agree. I just paid for ezbass and the audio sender function won’t work and I can’t use ezbass with logic as a plug-in. I’m going to request a full refund. I can’t use this so I’m not at all happy with toontrack.
@@Celticsaint777 It's not what's advertised for sure. It's not a bad midi instrument. I do think it's a bit complicated and wish it interacted with the DAW differently. It seems over designed in my view. I'm glad some people are able to use all its functions. I can't. I do pretty simple stuff anyway so it's just a quick way to get the bass laid in so I can re record with a real bass later.
I agree. Totally shit. I tried sampling my basslines and simple eighth notes with a walk shotgunned. And it missed like 40% of them so there was a buncha gaps in an extremely straight forward bass line. Sticking to processing my actual bass signal.
In audio tracker mode, I would like my bass guitar that I pre recorded to have both the original and the Midi bass guitar as the final mix. How can I do that? When you add midi to song track under Audio tracker It only does midi , I want a blend of both. Thanks
Not at this time no. But this is the first major release. I expect there will be more advances as time goes on. You can of course tune the whole bass (slightly) and the range does go down to bottom B like normal 5 string bass.
How does the audio to midi conversion compare to Cubase Variaudio? Theoretically this could be done within Cubase and use the Midi to drive ezbass or any other midi bass?
Good point. The detection of notes by Vari Audio for this purpose is more suited to other styles. In my tests I found that EZbass is more accurate reading guitar / bass. Plus the actual tweaking you can do within the application. Vari Audio does give you a starting point though and tbh that is all I would use EZb's detection for too. I much prefer to program directly into MIDI. Maybe another video due...
I tried it exactly, good sir, but the Audio is not recording at all even though everything else is fine. It shows the audio inputs from the sender. I do have a plugin on the guitar track and tried switching the order of the sender and plugin, tried the record enable on both the midi and guitar track, but no luck.
Hi there, perhaps you can try without any other plugins. Put the sender on your guitar recorded audio track. It is difficult to diagnose without being able to see your DAW.
@@PhilPendlebury I resorted to using reaper. Life is quite simpler now. I have been searching for a video like this for many months. It's the same issue in Ableton with my friend because in these programs, they specify whether the track is an audio or a midi track. Reaper just gives you a track to put anything in.
Biggest confusion is the EZ bass arrangement window vs. daw arrangement and moving between the two.. surely there must be an easy way to navigate and work quickly
Hi James. Thanks for the comment. tbh I am finding that I work exclusively in the DAW (Cubase) now. As all the ezBass articulations can be done with Key Switches and Controllers. So I am basically using ez for the sounds only now and controlling "how" it sounds with keys and controllers. I have made a bunch of my own grooves though which are useful to get going quick. Just drag them on to the MIDI track. Maybe another video due? :-)
@@PhilPendlebury I didn't know articulations could be handled with key switches/outside of the EZ bass window. This might be a game changer! Thanks for your reply.
Thanks. I played the guitar in various ways. One of my techniques is to "slap" the guitar, (especially when playing live). But in this demo I just played it as you heard it and then changed the articulations to Slaps in the EZbass editor. The key is to keep the playing clean and tight. The capture will work best if you don't use any smoothing or distortion. Then do some editing afterwards. It is never going to be 100% perfect until you do a bit of editing.
Great video, ive installed the trial version today but i have a question, when i recording a real bass i go with a mono signal into my interface and make a mono track, is ezbass not stereo? maybe i have to change it in a setting? or is it all good how it is? greez Manuel
Hi and thanks for watching. The main outputs from EZb are stereo, you will hear this on chorus effects etc. But if you are recording real bass then yes of course mono is fine, (unless you are using a Rickenbacker with dual outputs). Then place EZb on a stereo track. But if you don't need any of the stereo features it is not vital, whatever works for you really. :-)
@@manuelharlander8604 Yes for sure but there are some advantages to routing, for example main / fx / sub to separate outs and then sending them to a bus. But it depends on what works best and easiest for you and if it sounds Ok don't worry. I will do another video on this. Some of it is difficult to put into words. :-)
will this work with distorted guitars and can u extract the captured bass as a midi to use it with other bass plugins like eurobass 2 for a metal sound? :)
Thank you! I think I'll hold out for Elon Musks Neural Network and send music from my brain to the DAW. Would that be considered cheating? Liked and Subscribed.
@@frattuncbas This one may help: th-cam.com/video/t2Lj4EeI-wk/w-d-xo.html (I don't use any of the built in features like this tbh). Good luck and thanks for watching.
Well, at least you have videos like this that can help you make a decision. However, I think you'll find the Audio Sender is available to you, but it is not installed automatically.
Anthony, the audio sender is a separate download below the EZBass download button. I’m on my last couple of days of the demo and I’m using the audio sender.
This software is insane! Got it the first day. Awesome! Thanks for your demo.
Enjoy!
Thanks for the overview and great advice on the multi outs! :-)
:-)
100% Working
Great
Very useful Phil, thanks. I have a bass guitar (I’m also a guitar player), but bass guitar is notoriously difficult to record and get a good sound, and I usually get a bit bogged down with it. This may be a better option.
Thank you. I do think, if programmed well it can sound very realistic.
Well Done, thanks.
Thank you too!
Love TOONTRACKS products! Would you do a more in depth tutorial on the EZBass product for the non bassist?
Thanks. Sure, just allow some time to prepare.
@@PhilPendlebury - thank you for replying. I am not a technical person. I play piano well. I can operate a computer and DAW but, much of the other stuff - it takes me longer to learn than it takes others. So as much detail as possible is needed.
@@kennethstavis9953 Understood and thanks for the info.
If you can play piano well and have knowledge of music, have you considered using a midi keyboard to play a bass line on? Would be much quicker for you.
Thanks !
My pleasure.
You know the name of the song hihi. Hey, that first guitar groovy riff is also awesome !
Thanks. :-)
Exactly what I need ...I can write bass lines on guitar and fire my bassist just kidding but I used to record bass lines on guitar and drop an octave and adjust the eq this really makes things easier
Yes the octave down method never worked well eh. Just be prepared to do some editing after the capture.
thanks
My pleasure :-)
Great Video, well explained ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ How do you customise the bass graphic ? 👍
Hi Jono, thanks. Link to Custom Paint Job Video: th-cam.com/video/j1oDU4XPBKo/w-d-xo.html
Отлично!
Спасибо!
Finally got this audio tracker thing to work and it sounds like total nonsense when importing some of the most simple riffs. It's way easier to just tap it in with a keyboard. It sounds pretty good, but this 'audio tracker' gimmick is crap. 😂
Depends how precisely you're playing it in, I guess. It worked fine for me, (as you can see in the video). 🙂
@@PhilPendlebury I may give it another go, but meh, seems more trouble than it's worth because midi tweaking is going to be necessary anyway. I was hoping it would translate slides and things, that's why I wanted to use it. I may just have to get more in-depth with the actual programming. The basses sound great though. I still think audio tracker is a bit convoluted in its design.
Yeah I agree. I just paid for ezbass and the audio sender function won’t work and I can’t use ezbass with logic as a plug-in. I’m going to request a full refund. I can’t use this so I’m not at all happy with toontrack.
@@Celticsaint777 It's not what's advertised for sure. It's not a bad midi instrument. I do think it's a bit complicated and wish it interacted with the DAW differently. It seems over designed in my view. I'm glad some people are able to use all its functions. I can't. I do pretty simple stuff anyway so it's just a quick way to get the bass laid in so I can re record with a real bass later.
I agree. Totally shit. I tried sampling my basslines and simple eighth notes with a walk shotgunned. And it missed like 40% of them so there was a buncha gaps in an extremely straight forward bass line. Sticking to processing my actual bass signal.
In audio tracker mode, I would like my bass guitar that I pre recorded to have both the original and the Midi bass guitar as the final mix. How can I do that? When you add midi to song track under Audio tracker It only does midi , I want a blend of both. Thanks
Use the Mix button in Tracker: imgur.com/y3hW6JC
cool..does it have alternate tuning like detuning lower on 4th string or all?
Not at this time no. But this is the first major release. I expect there will be more advances as time goes on.
You can of course tune the whole bass (slightly) and the range does go down to bottom B like normal 5 string bass.
HI Phil. I have Toontrack sender installed in my DAW and attached to my guitar track. But how did you create an EZ Bass track in your DAW?
Depending on your DAW Host. In Cubase for example it is a basic MIDI track assigned to the Rack Instrument. Or an Instrument track.
How does the audio to midi conversion compare to Cubase Variaudio? Theoretically this could be done within Cubase and use the Midi to drive ezbass or any other midi bass?
Good point. The detection of notes by Vari Audio for this purpose is more suited to other styles. In my tests I found that EZbass is more accurate reading guitar / bass. Plus the actual tweaking you can do within the application. Vari Audio does give you a starting point though and tbh that is all I would use EZb's detection for too. I much prefer to program directly into MIDI. Maybe another video due...
I find that the exported midi sounds like it is oscillating. Not sure why
This will depend on the how tight is the pitch of the original sample, I guess.
I tried it exactly, good sir, but the Audio is not recording at all even though everything else is fine. It shows the audio inputs from the sender. I do have a plugin on the guitar track and tried switching the order of the sender and plugin, tried the record enable on both the midi and guitar track, but no luck.
Hi there, perhaps you can try without any other plugins. Put the sender on your guitar recorded audio track. It is difficult to diagnose without being able to see your DAW.
@@PhilPendlebury I resorted to using reaper. Life is quite simpler now. I have been searching for a video like this for many months. It's the same issue in Ableton with my friend because in these programs, they specify whether the track is an audio or a midi track. Reaper just gives you a track to put anything in.
Biggest confusion is the EZ bass arrangement window vs. daw arrangement and moving between the two.. surely there must be an easy way to navigate and work quickly
Hi James. Thanks for the comment.
tbh I am finding that I work exclusively in the DAW (Cubase) now. As all the ezBass articulations can be done with Key Switches and Controllers. So I am basically using ez for the sounds only now and controlling "how" it sounds with keys and controllers.
I have made a bunch of my own grooves though which are useful to get going quick. Just drag them on to the MIDI track.
Maybe another video due? :-)
@@PhilPendlebury I didn't know articulations could be handled with key switches/outside of the EZ bass window. This might be a game changer! Thanks for your reply.
@@jameswgmoore Video coming soon.
ezBass Articulations & Your DAW MIDI Editor
th-cam.com/video/2iBQdc_isCU/w-d-xo.html
:-)
Hi Phil, would you mind share the audio sender plugin link by toontrack ? Or how to get one .? Thanks
Hi. It is part of the installation, if you purchased EZbass it is included with that.
Phil Pendlebury, thank you, but i could not find it where it located .?
@@edusantos6430 It's a separate download inside the product manager.
Very good demo. How would you do it with a slap bass? Do you also play the basic with your guitar? I am a guitarist too.
Thanks. I played the guitar in various ways. One of my techniques is to "slap" the guitar, (especially when playing live). But in this demo I just played it as you heard it and then changed the articulations to Slaps in the EZbass editor.
The key is to keep the playing clean and tight. The capture will work best if you don't use any smoothing or distortion. Then do some editing afterwards. It is never going to be 100% perfect until you do a bit of editing.
@@PhilPendlebury thank you for the tip. I use superior drummer since it came out. I am used to the user interface. I would do it exactly like you did.
Beautiful customization... would you mind sharing with me where you found the file... I'd love to P-Shop mine a bit as well. Cheers!
Hi and thanks. I will do a short walkthrough of how this was done.
Here you go: th-cam.com/video/j1oDU4XPBKo/w-d-xo.html
@@PhilPendlebury so many thank yous! This Rocks!
Great video, ive installed the trial version today but i have a question, when i recording a real bass i go with a mono signal into my interface and make a mono track, is ezbass not stereo? maybe i have to change it in a setting? or is it all good how it is?
greez Manuel
Hi and thanks for watching. The main outputs from EZb are stereo, you will hear this on chorus effects etc. But if you are recording real bass then yes of course mono is fine, (unless you are using a Rickenbacker with dual outputs). Then place EZb on a stereo track. But if you don't need any of the stereo features it is not vital, whatever works for you really. :-)
@@PhilPendlebury thnx for answer so it means when i use ezb like it is (presets) i can go for it without any routings? Greez from Austria
@@manuelharlander8604 Yes for sure but there are some advantages to routing, for example main / fx / sub to separate outs and then sending them to a bus. But it depends on what works best and easiest for you and if it sounds Ok don't worry.
I will do another video on this. Some of it is difficult to put into words. :-)
@@PhilPendlebury thnx for helping me, yes make a video about that topic cause i cant really find vids on yt about that. 🙂
@@manuelharlander8604 Thanks will update you soon.
will this work with distorted guitars and can u extract the captured bass as a midi to use it with other bass plugins like eurobass 2 for a metal sound? :)
It is best to use a very clean direct sound with no distortion at all. Yes you can drag the finished MIDI into your DAW host.
Thank you! I think I'll hold out for Elon Musks Neural Network and send music from my brain to the DAW. Would that be considered cheating? Liked and Subscribed.
Thanks Cary. Reciprocated. :-)
I got a problem , I did follow your steps but on ez bass my daw isn’t recognised . Any clue about this ??😢
Hi, I’m not sure what you mean by my DAW isn’t recognised… can you explain in more detail please? 🙏🏼
@@PhilPendlebury on the ez bass input list below my daw doesn’t come up as a choice
@@johnarnis7340 What is the "ez bass input list"? I think it is better if you hop over to my Discord, this way I can get more detail from you.
@@PhilPendlebury may I send you a screenshot somehow ?
@@johnarnis7340 Go to my Discord buddy, link in description
This is so cool. What is the converter you use to transfer the audio to midi? This will be great for me. The sender plugin. Does it come with EZBass?
Yes it does, it is included in the purchase and is a seperate download.
how did you add graphics to your bass?
th-cam.com/video/j1oDU4XPBKo/w-d-xo.html
But I think you will find it is not possible now, as Toontrack changed the file structure.
where did you get the Audio Sender plugin?
It is included in the purchase of Ezbass.
It's a separate download inside the product manager.
Every time I use the audio tracker it crashes and gets me a dump file and then shuts FL studio down completely any suggestions?
You would have to ask Toontrack support about that one. I don't know anything about FL.
How did you change the graphic of guitar ?
Hi and thanks. I will do a short walkthrough of how this was done.
Here you go: th-cam.com/video/j1oDU4XPBKo/w-d-xo.html
Thank you very much for your great idea ! Brother 🙏
can i import my complex chords into it and is it give me bassline riffs automatically which i selected from menu?
For this you will have to look at some other tutorials.
@@PhilPendlebury I couldnt find it and couldnt do it with my longterm midi chord progressions.Didnt give full riffs.
@@frattuncbas This one may help: th-cam.com/video/t2Lj4EeI-wk/w-d-xo.html (I don't use any of the built in features like this tbh). Good luck and thanks for watching.
we don't have the audio sender with the demo version.... it's so sad that was the only reason to test this plugin for me
Well, at least you have videos like this that can help you make a decision. However, I think you'll find the Audio Sender is available to you, but it is not installed automatically.
@@PhilPendlebury yes or course and thx for that 😂🔥
@@anthonycomparato2365 :-)
Anthony, the audio sender is a separate download below the EZBass download button. I’m on my last couple of days of the demo and I’m using the audio sender.
Sorry...aber warum gibt es immer noch nicht eine Version mit deutschen Untertiteln, das sollte doch kein Problem sein oder???
Done. Although I am not sure how accurate that will be. Hope you enjoy. :-)
Erledigt. Obwohl ich nicht sicher bin, wie genau das sein wird. Ich hoffe dir gefällt es. :-)
Thank you!
You are welcome. Thanks for watching.