Drywall finish from prefill to sanding
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- Drywall taping from durabond pre fill, bazooka taping, topping, skimming and sanding.
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I hand taped for over 15 years before I got my auto tools, and your videos all these years taught me how to use them. I went on my own and started getting bigger bids. Thanks for everything, Doc!
This summer makes 23 years of finishing, day in day out. And, what do i do after a long day of skimming popcorn ceilings? I come home and watch videos of guys finishing. Lol. So, happy to see i get to watch an hour of content. Learned with 12 and 14" trowels. You're the reason i bought boxes and angle tools. Keep it up. Love the channel. And, while, every finisher thinks they're the best, i can comfortably say you're better than me. So, i guess that makes me #2. Lol
Love your comments thank you.
Nahhh number 3 I work in commercial
@@giovannivillegas2363 lol.... I do commercial and residential too brother. I guess we're tied for number 2, lol
@@giovannivillegas2363 number 4
I’m a general contractor, but I do all my own work, besides plumbing and electrical. It’s so difficult to find trustworthy guys and reliable guys that I gave up on subcontracting insulation, drywall hanging, finishing etc… in a way, I’m glad for it, because I learned an awful lot the first time I hung and finished a house, because when I primed it, I saw all the mistakes I made. I’ve learned a lot from your videos in the last couple years as well, and now I can finish with confidence, knowing that when I prime and paint it’ll look perfect! Unfortunately I only get to do a substantial sized finishing job every 3-4 months, since I have do everything else as well! Love these trades, even though they beat the snot out of you! Great video, as usual, doc!
Impressive that you get on the empty bucket that way ....I flip mine upside down 👍
Many tapers specialize in different things but only Ray can bucket walk!
today I tried using the bazooka for the very first time I should've watched this video again yesterday hahaha I forgot a couple steps. thank you for sharing your expertise to the world !
One word for you sir...AWESOME!! I've never seen anybody, alive, dead, fictional, or otherwise use one of those devices. You're a phenomenal teacher!! God bless you!! 😊😊
I'll repeat what many others have said: It is such a pleasure watching you work. Thank you for what you're doing!
Since watching your videos for years now. I never use a 12in knife anymore. I use my 10 for everything. I love it. Love your videos. ✌🏼
It is deeply satisfying to watch someone use professional tools and be this fast and this effective/efficient. I was skeptical when I saw an hour long video but I'm fifteen minutes in and it's the first time I've ever seen drywall done this quickly.
I have a one room job at home and need to learn proper techniques so it doesn't suck.
Also it's very satisfying sand nostalgic how close the Drywall Doctor sounds to one of the Hensons.
I am a beginner DIYer and I love your educational descriptions, not only of what you do, but why you do what you do. The grunting is good👍; glad I am not alone with that. You would make an excellent host to any show. Funny you should mention Vancouver Carpenter because he is one of the other guys I regularly watch. I seem to have replaced my wine-drinking habit with home remodeling, which is much more satisfying, albeit somewhat toxic at times.
Really enjoyed the start to finish video Ray. New video and sound equipment are top notch. Would love to see more start to finish jobs like this. Love watching whatever you decide
I've literally done every type of taping...by hand, with hoppers, banjos, bazookas, hawk and trowel (which i prefer), boxes, flushers, etc etc
There's nothing you can tell me that I don't know however I do appreciate you...
There is definitely a right way
Nothing wrong with a long video. Thanks for taking the time to make this video
Hands down the best taper teacher on TH-cam . I have learned so much from. Very knowledgeable and entertaining. Thank you so much . Greetings from Toronto .
Hello Mr Ray, mike and camera are awesome, great quality and could even hear the chain mechanism on the bazooka. I only wish my drywall jobs looked as clean as yours :-)
Great video! I always enjoy watching a master like you at work! The new mic and camera are awesome! Thank you for taking the time to put this all together for us!
And angle heads are sweet, such a difference when I switched over from flushers couple yrs back
You explain what's going on very well. I'm about to start a 36 sheet second floor. Thx!!!
I've only seen one other guy walk with a bucket. Mike and camera are great . May God bless
Thank you for your videos I’m learning a lot.
My favorite drywall guy on TH-cam
Love the call out on Vancouver Carpenter. You two guys are the best. Dang you’re agile for a old guy.
Enjoyed every minute of your video and the new camera 👍 Thanks for posting
I've never prefilled field joints, I only prefilled butt joints, going to try your method, thanks dry wall doctor
Gotta be light on your feet ha ha your the man! One of the best teachers on the you tube! Thank you sir
Bro that Mic is legit!!!!!! your old vids were hard to watch. But I still watched them anyway
I watch your videos, and you do good work.
Hey sir crazy story here.. I recently bought that tapetech angle box and was using it when my stilts caught the end of my scaffold...10ft I fell on my knees hard but I managed to keep the tool from getting damaged....you know I can always buy another me 😄...big fan here from CorpusChristi TX....Balboa Drywall
Thank You!! 👍
(GC, Love watching your videos, I’ve been tuned in for years 😉)
WOW doc this is next level stuff! You are a legend.
It does sound better. Thanks 👍
Drywall Doctor Indeed!
Thank you
First house with tools. Appreciate your.videos
Picture is better and sound is great. Very educational video.
👌 👏thank you 👍 that was awesome
Awesome video god bless
Didn't notice , when did you run your 1st time angle ? Because after tapping , u came next day and they seemed like after 1st out.But in first day u didn't show mudrunner. Thanks a lot, Doc, your videos are just a treasure. I'm also interested in the question, have you thought about recording the same type of video where you finish the project from prefill to sanding ?
Great camera work.
I dont get 4K where I live but the sound quality is really good. Love your channel!!
Ray Ray your dangerous today, 😂. Definitely would love you filming my last smooth coat, used my grandkids. The rolled out 11 thousand square ft , cost me an arm and leg 😂.
Come for the advice and techniques. Stay for the bucket waddling and grunts / groans on the new mic. Lol. Great video.
Thank you very muchhh!!
Mic and Camera does a good job.
Your sound is all good 👍. Think someone would need some bucket balance course lol
Never apologize for long video when you pack it full of useful information, and I for one like the realtime job. Some close-ups would be nice through
I had them but thought it was to long it's 4k so you should be able to pause and zoom in .
When I first started, I worked in a modular home plant. Didn't sand my own work. Once I became a sub, I quickly learned, that while I could finish, I needed a lot of polish. Started approaching each job as learning experiences.
What do I find myself grinding at with a pole or sanding block and why? What can I do to correct it.
Now when I finish, I put everything I can into an area that the pole sander gets it.
When I'm done pole sanding, detail the 3-ways, check around electrical boxes, clean up and roll out
best taper
Prefill is the best. And guess what people are learning. You can do it and do it quick and it makes the job that much better. It all rolls downhill in finishing drywall. Each stage helps the next.
I keep seeing guys on here using the corner head when taping. I've never seen anyone do that until recently. It seems weird to me bit maybe I'll give it a try
I also walk on buckets, when working on 8ft ceilings and walls. I stack two empty buckets and flip it upside down and get on the bottom. Just thought that might be a bit safer.
This is a great video, I was tought to cross off, and fill the middle of the but joints on skim day,. I like your way much better, I'm doing it that way from now on. Actually to be fair your the 2nd guy I seendo it that way. Also you can film our job if you like, that would be fun
Let me know where you're at I'm retired now and need new videos.
Nice video we do it pretty similar except only pre fill the bad stuff and my dad does butt joints 1 down the middle 2 on the sides leaves them until scim coat then runs the 2 and then when it sets up scims very tight slim to tie in everything in but like your way better. Then 3 coats on screws but I think we could probably get away with 2 but scared lol.
That bucket-walk shows you're a pro lol
Except I kept falling.
I've never heard of delayed shrinkage (I was in the swimming pool!) and never ran into the issue. Then again, I'm pretty slow at taping. My work gets plenty of time to dry.
I am slowly getting a lot more work taping & was wondering what your recommendation would be on getting set up with flat boxes, specifically sizes & brand.
I only use a 10 and a 12 one is a drywall Master the other is a tapetech and had them for many years with no problems.
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Thank you very much for all your vidéos, I'm from France, I discouvered machines with your vidéos. Your vidéos are very inspiring. I got problèmes with my seringe bubbles and pressure while I'm pushing on it. I have not yet pump. But when I see you running your mudrunner it look easy to puch the mud out. Is it much easier with mudrunner than a sering? Thank lot
Yes much easier
Looks great brother do you ever have issues with delayed shrinkage? I always worry about first and second coating same day if I’m not using quickset thanks for your videos
I only have problems with delayed shrinkage when I'm in a hurry and I know it's not fully dry yet but I skim it anyway
Camera and mic all good Doc
Thank you I love it but it took 3 days to upload to TH-cam.
I saw your video years ago when I was just getting into taping & mudding & it helped me tremendously! Every time I have a taping & mudding job, I don't even bother lookin for anybody else anymore, I come straight back to your videos and am impressed all over again. What a talent!
On my last mudding & taping job however, I was mudding & taping new drywall and I got these "tadpoles" looking things after I final sanded everything and it only became visible to me after the walls were painted... They weren't really specific to 1 area, it was sort of all over the basement. Any tips or advice on how to avoid those Doc? Somebody said to me it could have been from over mixing the mud? I briefly mixed the mud each new day that I came back to work on the basement, just because I let it sit in water over night so it wouldn't dry up.. ??
It's not from over mixing. Sometimes well water can have an effect on your mud. That happen to me and it turns out a mineral in the water had a big impact on the mud.
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 Thanks for the heads up and thanks a lot for the quick reply! You Rock!
Loved the video. You do great work.
Did you do an entire room or just the walls we saw?
The entire room and some patches in other areas
I always was thought it was, tape and two coats, if you're going to texture, and tape and three coats for a smooth finish. But it certainly looks like you have a perfectly finished smooth job, with tape and two coats.
That's because I prefilled the job first.
I watched this video and your skills surprise me positively.
Could you answer me two questions?
- is any problem for applying only 2 coats after taping?
- why you don't use a light when do a double check with sand sponge?
The light you don't see is awesome and lights up the entire room. I see more in the wet mud when applying it and know what to sand and touch up. And there is no problems two coating the same day since +3. The old mud before +3 I couldn't do that.
Great video. I would prefer the start to finish on more of your projects. Could you also include the mixing process of your hot mud as well a s the ready mixed ones?
Yes , I would love too! P.S. Doc you are the BEST!!!
Great vid , Q for you, is it ok to prefill with any kind of hot mud ?
Yes I used light weight 20 here.
I for sure would click on a video with you and Vancouver carpenter. Do it.
Great video! Love the bucket walk. Do you not do a skim coat over everything? Won't the paint show up differently with the paper and mud textures? Thanks in advance.
No the only time I put a mud film on the entire surface is with a high gloss. And I do that differently then others. Look for my level 5 series
Careful Doc....
What would u recommend the level 5 brand tools or the tape tech?
Tapetech
Hi buddy. I hate wearing a mask too. Im an electrician so i have to cut out a lot of plaster and drywall. The best mask i found is the milwaukee with the breather hole. Its adjustable and honestly its really good. I get the 10 packs at home depot. Edit im in chicago.
That's where I get mine from maybe we'll see each other sometime at home depot.
Great demonstration! I would like to know if your butt joints are truly flat? Do you stick a knife on them and check for a crown or any hollowness?
Only when they want flat wall and want to pay for it.
Hey Doc thx for great vid sorry if this has been asked was this easy sand 20 or durabond 20 for the pre fill? Thx
I'm not sure I try to use durabon but the big box stores stopped supplying it so I've switched to the easy sand.
whenever you in maine come see me..
Doc, amazing video. Just a question, why didnt you put light after sanding to check for sanding marks or fish eyes?
I try to use only the natural light and Anticipate where the light is going to be coming from.
I wish you'd show a close up of the wet mud on the first coat on your screws so I can see how you're leaving the mud better....I'd love to learn to get by with 2 coats on them....I put blue chalk in my touch up mud
You should be able to pause and zoom in it's 4k
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 thank you, sir....you definitely deserve the name the Drywall Doctor...you've earned it
Just so you know I always use devilblss oil and you won't get fish eyes lol
Sounds and looks good. Maybe clip the mic on the belt(pants) and see if that gets better results from unwanted noises ;)
Hola,hola buenos dias hace algun tiempo que miro tus videos y considero en mi humilde opinion que eres muy bueno en lo que haces y profesional tengo 25 anos de experiensia y considero la finichada un arte no solamente se trata de poner masa en la pared como creen muchos en la rama de la construcion perdon por haber escrito en este idiioma ya que no puedo hacerlo en el tuyo siento pasion y amor por lo que hago muchs gracias por tus catedras de finisher
You're welcome
Great lesson, thank you. I learned to finish from a couple ole timers 20 years ago in southern Illinois. They taught me well. After taking a 15 year break I’m back to finishing. I live in CO now. Would you be willing to help me get up to speed on pricing jobs? Thanks again for the video lesson!
It's so different in Colorado. I have clients here in Illinois that pay me to go to Colorado because I'm cheaper and they know what I do. I'll be going to Is vale Colorado to do a job.
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 Have a great trip to CO! On a smaller job like this video shows, 6-10 sheets, do you charge per sheet or just by the job (bid hourly)? I guess a job is priced whatever its worth to you! Thanks
T&M nowadays all my clients know me and know I'm honest.
What grit sand paper do you use to sand drywall
I use 120 - 150 usually 120
Sometimes the butt joints stick out to much and it's hard to split them with the 10 inch box creating a big hump on the wall do you ever have that problem?
No maybe it's not the drywall but a bad stud
They have stools that room and press down when you stand on them if you want to move something with your feet rather then a bucket
Good to know
When do you use you 3.5 inch angle head on a bigger job or you don't like it as much ?
By the way looove the new microphone and that new 4k camera almost make your bazooka look real and or new and so shinny
I love the three and a half inch head I'm just saving it until my 3-inch head wears out
can't believe you don't use a 2' step ladder, seems like it would be a lot safer 🤔
What type of mud did you use for the skim coat ?
Pigmented +3
Doc any advice on how to deal with a wall to ceiling intersection that is very wavy? 110yr old balloon framed house. Ledger is all over the place. If I go with paper tape I know it will end up being a wavy disaster. Thought about using inside corner bead to try and "construct" a straight corner but seems like a long shot. Please let me know what you think! I appreciate you.
My house was built in 1887 and I have a lot of angles like that. I use nocoat inside corner bead like you said but still it's just the character of the age of the house I had to accept
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 thank you! I will give the no coat a try. Mine was “built” in 1914 supposedly. Seems like a bunch of amateurs did the work though and when the termites invaded boy was they hungry!
Hello from australia.
Im a drywall plasterer, and just want to comment on how fit you are.
Gotta keep moving eh bud.
If nothing else then that ‘bucket walk’ @ 6:38 speak for it self about the DR’s lengthy experience in this trade. And all of that NOT looking at the floor. 🔥 What mud did you use for taping in the zooka, all-purp or +3 and what kind is in the 10box?
All purpose and it's a drywall master 10"
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 Thanks a bunch. And fyi, love the longer video. I understand that YT is competing with tiktok and pushing those “shorts” but if one really wants to see or perhaps learn something then this video of yours is perfect. You can see the whole process and if you want actually understand thing or two. Thanks for sharing Doc. All the best.
Hi, I have Level 5 smooth drywall. The painter came in and sprayed Kelly Moore Level 5 Primer/sealer WITHOUT dusting the powdery drywall and his colleague backrolled the spray with a .5" nap roller. The result is I have a stipple texture(!) on my smooth walls and dust UNDEER the primer on my baseboards! Since the Primer is advertised as "sandable", should I sand the texture off with 220 grit sandpaper? And if so, what do I do then (i.e. re-prime. or re-mud)? Thanks in advance.....
If it sands you should be able to just paint. Good painters would just spray primer, lightly sand with a sand pole and then roll on the paint twice.
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 so for LEVEL 5 smooth, after it's sanded down, just 2 rolls of paint with a .25" roller?... Why not spray on the 2 coats instead?
If it's a big job you'll want to spray and roll but you will always want to roll it out.
I’ve been taping hawk and trowel and pan with knife for 15 years. After watching your videos, along with a few others, I’ve decided to change things up. 2 months ago I bought my first bazooka (lvl 5). Next tools on my list- 2 1/2 inch angle head and 3 1/2 angle head. Any brand you would recommend (I don’t mind spending money for Quality) and with out a mud runner do you think a roller will do the job on the finish coat?
A old hand paper told me the one tool that saved him the most time was the roller
I wouldn't consider any other brands except drywall master or tapetech especially with angle heads
Is there a reason why you didn't fill the angles just asking
Not necessary I never did unless they're huge gaps.
What do you prefilled with. I just took off my popcorn ceiling and have some gaps at the wall and Ceiling joints want to do the job right.
I use to use durabon but the big box stores quit carrying it so any speed set you can find is fine.
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 thank you very much.
How many sqft was it? What time did you start I bet you are fast. I carry paper towels and a platform with me at all time. Based on all your bucket trips you could really use one. Thanks for all the tips I learned a lot.
I think that job was about 22-24 4×8 sheets and it took about 4 hours to tape and top.
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 Nice your pretty quick. Do you hang drywall as well or do you hire hangers?
I try not to but the smaller jobs I do
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 yeah same here try not too but on smaller jobs it's only way unless you hire a hanger yourself. The homeowner usually doesn't want the hassel.
Hi Mr. Ray, I've been doing drywall for 14 years. I just wanted to know when you do your butt joints do yo stop the mudd below the corners and just shy of the seams and cross them off afterwards
Yes and no . Sometimes I'll shove the 10 or 12 right into the angles because the butt is high on one side and needs to be floated out.
Thank you for your response lot helps and thank you for you videoes
FYI: WD40 is NOT oil.
If drywall joints bonded with woodbond(drywall installers did) then should I cut and prefill with mud?
I had to look up woodbond. Never heard of it before. If it's a reputable company and you trust them and they're warranting their work don't touch it otherwise the warranty's no good
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 it's pvc woodbond I believe.
Ok. Better not to change other's work with warranty
How do you guys bid your work? I'm a drywall finisher that wants to start doing my own jobs in orangecounty CA, I have all my tools and ready.
I really don't bid work anymore I have my clients and they just tell me when it's ready I bill them when I'm done. Otherwise between $2 and $3 per square foot for everything hanging taping materials it's hard now because materials are all over the place
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 I appreciate your response, usually price for labor and let them reimburse me my money from the material I get. But thanks drywall doctor
If that's the case I try to bid between 70 and $80 per hour and that covers all my expenses workman's comp general liability
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 okay then I didn't think about it like. And go based on how many hours it will take me. I appreciate your advise
I saw you spray your bazooka with WD-40. That doesn't wear out the seals faster? Someone told me I should only use bazooka oil but it's pretty expensive
I've been using WD-40 for 47 years never ever had a problem. Do not use car oil on any taping tools. Trust me it ruined my box and bazooka seals.
I'm a drywall finisher here in Northwestern New Hampshire. I've been hand taping since about 2000. I'm the only guy in my area and have struggled with pricing. Truth is being the only guy around I feel like charging a lot forces folks to pay me whatever I ask and I'm not ok with that. On the other hand I've underbid myself pretty bad on a couple occasions. Is there a resource you know of where you can compare prices in your state or county? Appreciate any advice.
Anymore I'm just time and material I try to make about 12 to 15% on material and I try to make about $70 an hour in time and that's a little cheap
@@THEDRYWALLDOCTOR1 I appreciate the advice! Great channel by the way, subbed! The only question I haven't seen answered on your channel yet is why does mud always land on the tip of my shoe? Every job, without fail.