My conversation with Abhijit Iyer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Do you think we have a very poor structure in terms of the overall discussion in regards to our foreign policy in India? If we look at the media are there any meaningful mainstream discussions where we actually get detailed views? Is the Indian public at large woefully under-informed in terms of its foreign policy? I chat about this and many other issues with Abhijit Iyer.
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After my MBA I thought my education is completed. But after few years of research on nation dharma and world I realized, I am totally illiterate.
How far we've come. Still can't believe
Every indian has to picture a vision for his mother land.because our soul and body is in it.
Exactly to the possible extend we can from individual basis
This guy Abhijit can unilaterally elevate India. Someone please give him a chance to chance India
Just listened in 2024 everything he said still holds good!
Little did he knew this was the starting of Kushal's kala khatta phase 😂😂😂
❤old is gold
Please please please please please do an interview with Nilesh Oak
I really want to listen to him
Frankly, Nehru was afflicted of Defeatism. It cost the country a lot.
An average Indian is overawed by PRC. It creates a submissive mentality; compromising even on national interests. It is required to have a mindset of confronting PRC head-on, on most issues of national concern. India has on most points enough leverage with PRC rather than the other way- but leading to confrontation or adversarial assertion. OBOR is the best example . PRC has its notions (verging on Imperialism of the past, that people think was buried with WW II) about India & pet theories. Sitting in India the British had two separate ways to deal with USSR & Imperial China then. They were very apprehensive with Russians & the purported thrust across the Hindukush. Imperial China was remote (in their view) with Tibet in between. Since they couldn't win or capture Tibet, they allowed its status quo, under Imperial China, who didn't interfere with Tibetan way of life as per Tibetan wishes. Situation just reversed & India was in trouble for the first time from PRC (Sardar Patel alluded to it & cautioned Nehru enough). Foreign policy or whatever goes by that name (being effectively camouflaged by Elitism of the Indian ruling class) in India, has no clue to deal with PRC & the situation except 'appeasement'. PRC quickly saw it through & played its cards (militarily & otherwise) well, cozy in the thought that India won't demur even. It is with this confidence that PRC included India as the No.1 target in its OBOR. But it got a shock (for which it was unprepared) administered by Modi. India needs to build up on it.
Now to the question of 'daring' to confront PRC. India needn't chicken out on it in traditional Indian manner. India though small isn't a push-over like most countries but is big enough. When a country like Germany can confront USSR (& USA by implication) India isn't Pakistan to not to do it. India has more leverages. India has the support of all of Western world, who use India to stall PRC in its track. PRC is assiduously persuading India not join the West, reminding India that it was the past Imperial oppressor.In this, its attitude India could (if it is clever) see the clue in managing PRC. Let not India puncture PRC ego or grandstanding on various international issues, but assert India's rights. India, once under a European Imperial regime is in the danger of falling under another oriental (Asian) one this time, that will be far worse.
Thanks Kushal.
Enjoyed it.
Excellent
For a change, both interviewer and the person being interviewed are excellent
Abhijit ia a extraordinary human being is views are very clear
PM Modi listened to s.jaishankar types during NSG bid but Ajit Doval during doklam, that is my feeling, so the stark difference.
Nope, Ajit Doval does security and not foreign policy.
Very clear headed guest
great analysis
Why to favor Israel is not explained here? India stood for Palestine on moral grounds just like in past. Israel is not saying any thing directly against Pakistan. We should do the same. Just work in the background and follow policy of give and take with them. I really think this discussion was very good apart from Israel vote discussion which does not stand any strong logic at least in this discussion.
Vivek Kumar Favor Israel because they are a strong and useful ally. We have had enough of this morality virtue signalling.
@@georgem2685 Nah,nah....Israeli is silent on china.
Modi’s abrupt stopover in Lahore was one of the biggest blunders according to me. Modi should not have been so impulsive. Instead of achieving anything it backfired so badly.
Just like every other PM, he learned it the harsh way.
No not at all. If anything that gesture has helped earn, it is the loud vindication by Western pro-democracy Bloc of legitimacy of India's later actions vis-a-vis Pakistan (Uri and Balakot). It was a trap in which Pakistan fell off unconsciously.
The good gestures like invitation to Modi's swearing ceremony and casual visit to Sharif's Home signalled to the western world three things.
1) India does not want to erase Pakistan as a policy measure, unlike Pakistan which went vocal about "Bleeding India with 1000 cuts".
2) India's actions in Kashmir are driven by domestic concerns independent of Pakistan.
3) India is actually ready to entertain Pakistan as any other neighbour provided Pakistan reciprocates the call shredding historical baggage.
Thankfully for India - Pakistani military establishment, in it's well known eager drive to undermine and harass the civilian government, did what India was already prepared for as "Plan B". That is, now India had all the free hand to deal with Pakistan the way it wanted provided Pakistan goes rogue, which it went in Pathankot, Uri and Pulwama.
Now India enjoys both - Freedom to act upon proxy warfare establishment in Pakistan the way India wants on it's own terms as well as an absolute "GO" from the West to do this whenever required, wherever required.
This masterstroke has now caused Pakistani military establishment to fall inside it's own trap in four ways:
1) If India strikes on terrorist camps then it proves that those exist in Pakistan. As Pakistan already consumes millions of USD in the name of combating terrorism, it can't showcase India as an aggressor on global stage.
2) If those attacks are against terror outfits, it means they are not directed towards Pakistani state. Which means Pakistan left with no excuse to retaliate against India with Nukes.
3) If Pakistan Military distances itself completely with terror outfits under international pressure, those outfits threaten Pakistani civilian government. It is the same civilian government which Pakistan Military needs all the time on international stage to face the consequences of it's own deeds.
4) And the worst - if at all Pakistan launches a Nuke at India in a fit of desperation - India will get all the opportunity in the world to destroy Pakistan once for all !!!!
And the results are evident. Pakistani army now has only option left, which is playing second fiddle to China. Galwan Valley aftermath is testimony. Pakistan army now has placed it's many troops in POK. Which means it is relying on China to launch first strike into India. Which means their traditional ways of proxy warfare have become a history.
Dear Podcaster, your questions have questions inside them, I am confused. Why didn't you prepare before, your train of questions so that we get educated progressively.
You came a long way💎🍑
I beg to differ from Abhijit on the PRC Electronics industry & Indian failure in that. He needs to know more about it in India.
Sir r u from Tenali?
If you are going to quote in Hindi please also translate into English for foreign listeners.
Kushan Mehra sounds like a juvenile student and Abhijit like the wise professor. This is not an interview, it is a lesson in geo politics being imparted by a teacher to a student.
Bradley was general during the second world war
Ah...back when thunder thighs tamizhsundari was just tamizhsundari.
This is very balanced analysis of supposed current Indian foreign policy... I agree with your views on much issues but I must say that you both are assuming that the cureent geopolitical statuesque will remain as it is for long period(at least 100 years as u hv said), the power struggle will be between China and USA and India can't really dominate the world as china or US does... I firmly disagree with ur this assumptions for two specific reasons...
1. You must consoder the economic situation in both china and USA today. It appears to me that both their economys are not going to sustain the position of power for long.
2. Remember, countries can transform in 30-35 years, take china for example, untill 1980s china was not at all in global super power status but it did such a rapid economic growth that today just in 30-35 years, china is tussling with USA.
I want to know why Russia and Isreal helped us in times of need ???🤔🤔
because we buy weapons from them which means pay them a shit load of money.
Sbka apna interst hota h simple
Russia sell krta h weapon aur isreal ka dushmn h Pakistan so common dushmn
And does Kushal have to use the F word repeatedly during the discussion?
You are unable to understand that India was made after 11 centuries of slavery and both of you are unable to understand realism and politics.Nehru was more educated than you. See Ideological conflict between USSR and China & also US with china .You cant explain the problem from personalities only. Mono-parametric approach is childish.
Nehru maybe well educated.... but he was British educated and not India educated. More or less, he thought he would conquer the world using non-violence. In 62, he was so morally defeated that lot of shit happened due to his weak mentality.
same guy who disrespected our historical sites in odisha and is an islamic apologist.....talk about double standards...
What happened
@@vve2059 made some video with comments about konark temple etc. when he visited those places
@@dragowolfx he is not Islamic apologist ....yes he did that mistake in past but greatly changed he even accepted
@@robinbordoloi2408 lagta hai odisha me FIR lagne ke baad sudhar gaya...good
Indian zaid hamid
Not exactly
His cigars costs more than your education