Yep and he plays better in general and complimentary football wise with Nick Herbig on the opposite side. He should be started every game from here on out especially in the playoffs. Idc I hope this happens, Nick is the future.
@ Porter Jr is just another Ike Taylor . Hands of stone but good in coverage . Difference is in Taylor’s era , you could play handsy like he does , but in todays nfl , your flagged for that kind of play .
@@tiemann55 Hands of Stone reminds me of Dwight Stone! My dad always used to call him that, which is a terrible nickname to have as a WR. Joey has definitely missed some interceptions. I'm hoping he'll grow out of that through practice but who knows.
@ it’s just sad that the nfl won’t allow him to play physical . They pick and choose which CBs can get away with the hand fighting , and it seems like Porter is just a guy who always gets the flag
You can't have a gameplan where its tj is gonna overpower everyone. It doesnt work as players get older. If he had a better scheme instead of just telling him to run the same outside rush every play he would have more. Dick lebeau would have tj sitting on 18 sacks while having minkah be part of the game instead of just sitting in cover 2 every play.
I don't think it's TJ himself slowing down as much as it is that he's just finally being accounted for properly. Other teams are just learning how to put too much between him and his target for anyone, even himself at his best, to actually be very effective. When he's doing something they aren't expecting, or he doesn't get the full package of resistance, he's still having the same sizable impacts he's always had. Teams have just learned how to constrain TJ Watt and he's struggling to overcome that or have the versatility to put wrinkles in the plans they set out for him in particular. Physical ability only gets you so far once the other team knows exactly what you'll be trying to do on every play. It's like if Polamalu was only capable of doing what he did coming from one direction with the same motion every time, he'd still be physically capable making an impact most of the time because of the talent and unique skill advantage, but eventually everyone would have known that he was going to be in a specific place at a specific time and would have a much easier time accounting for him. The analogy isn't perfect because the positions, and the game itself at this point are fundamentally different and I'm entirely aware that there's only so much TJ could even hypothetically do differently in his position, so it's not actually his fault in nearly as much of a capacity as the analogy makes it sound. But it's a very similar caliber of talent and a stark difference in role that illustrates the point. For the first five or six years of TJ Watt's career, no one really had an answer for his style of play and ability, then a few people figured out how to beat him, and from there it propagated over the next year or two to the other teams with the O-line talent to put it to use. And all the holding penalties that don't get called certainly don't help, either. But it's so consistent that you can also chalk that up to being a skill these offensive lines are learning, to make it hard for the officials to identify the holding as it's happening in real time.
The funny thing is 'slowing down' is still 11.5 sacks and 6 FF, still an objectively a fantastic stat line through 16 games. And that statline doesn't show that he's eating literally 3 blocks a lot of the time, meaning our 3-4 man rush gets pressure consistently still.
Still and all, dropping his production and making less impact in the second half of a season means he's following the Ms Mylie Garratt recipe for shoe-in as DPOY........
Tj is playing more snaps this year... in the past you would see him contort shift and spin himself to the qb. This year with less rest the energy level seems down
Teams know they can keep an extra body in the backfield or chip on his side because our DBs and LBs can keep up with 3-4 eligible receivers. Until our DBs and LB pick up their game TJs effectiveness will suffer
I like your analysis. Do you think that Justin can be in the future here? I think he has the talent but they need to let him play more freely so that he can make the big plays. You have to be willing to risk the biscuit. They did not let him but they are letting Wilson and look where that is going.
@@mike2687 I would agree and disagree. You are mostly right. But Big Ben was here and this is not Chicago. I think Pittsburgh plays a concept of football that is conducive to qb development but Mike T needs to win a playoff game and that does not lend itself to qb dev. But they dont seem very good at rookie dev either. See Roman Wilson. GP and BRODERICK.
@@ericthurman1050 - I’m confused on what the counterpoint is that you find disagreement with-Big Ben? I think we could easily say that past OCs created a good situation for a QB like Ben. Or just the “concept of football” aspect… stylistically, I don’t think many NFL teams are bad spots for a young QB to develop-it’s much more about the teacher than the scheme and I don’t see anyone to teach the position. Or are you simply extending the lack of development to the defensive side as well? If so, I completely agree.
@@mike2687 I think I agree with your second opinion but my point with Ben was that Pitt has developed here and that is more than many organizations can say. The Bears, Browns, Modern Jets, Raiders, etc. I do think that coaching matters but the scheme is important too. West coast asks things from qbs that Power Run /Go deep doesnt. Ball Control/ complementary football is a great way to start a qb. And if you give them weapons then you can get them confident. its typically the second stage where the dev stunts. That is where you find out if the qb is a gunslinger or true game manager. If you have a game manager then you stay conservative longer. See Tom Brady. Ben was a gunslinger and that means you have stomach picks while getting the wow plays. but that goes for all positions and the basics and the personality.
@ - yeah, I would’ve said the Steelers were a great landing spot for Ben back then just as I would say the current (last several seasons) Steelers would not be a good spot for Ben. I don’t see any resemblance of the franchise that Ben stepped into.
I mean 'slowing down' is still 11.5 sacks and 6 FF, while literally eating 3 blocks most of the game. And his supporting cast of edge rushers is the best it's ever been. I wouldn't be worried about Teej.
The Steelers should not evaluate WRs based on Russ or Fields being here next season. Short of something miraculous happening this January, I pray that Russ and Fields are somewhere else next season.
@@faustinomontoya1549 they are loyal to their team. They deserve one with their teams. Crosby got a couple though so not sure what you are doing with him lol Plenty of players who never get one in their careers. You act like TJ is so unique in that.
The Steelers and the city of Pittsburgh deserve a Super Bowl Win. They haven’t earned it and we don’t have the leadership at the top to make it happen. It becomes clearer every year.
@@mycalbrooks8161 I don't disagree with that, hopefully there is another QB on the team, but more likely a mid range QB than an elite one. Happy New Year
@@mycalbrooks8161 - Higgins and I aren’t buddies or anything, but I’d be willing to bet he’ll follow the money more so than the situation-the situation might break a tie. Not everyone chases titles.
Watt getting held a lot and getting chip Watt game is still superb
Yep and he plays better in general and complimentary football wise with Nick Herbig on the opposite side. He should be started every game from here on out especially in the playoffs. Idc I hope this happens, Nick is the future.
We are so spoiled as Steelers fans . To get to see the Team barely Miss playoffs or get in and blown out in round one is such a blessing
😂
I’ve been praying for a dominant CB In Pittsburgh since Rod Woodson
Hopefully Porter Jr can fill that role.
@ Porter Jr is just another Ike Taylor . Hands of stone but good in coverage . Difference is in Taylor’s era , you could play handsy like he does , but in todays nfl , your flagged for that kind of play .
@@tiemann55 Hands of Stone reminds me of Dwight Stone! My dad always used to call him that, which is a terrible nickname to have as a WR.
Joey has definitely missed some interceptions. I'm hoping he'll grow out of that through practice but who knows.
@ it’s just sad that the nfl won’t allow him to play physical . They pick and choose which CBs can get away with the hand fighting , and it seems like Porter is just a guy who always gets the flag
Thanks Matt for all your work this year I’m glad you’re on here and the drive.
Thank you Matt. As of the last few games T.J. Watt sprained ankle and just boxing in running QB's. I'm not worried. Great show Matt
Side note- I'd be slowing down as well if i had to give a 320lb T a piggyback ride 30x a game with no penalties.
Happy New Years Eve Matt!
Corey Trice? Im ready to see more
Also Matt don’t forget about Ryan Watts from this years draft, he was looking good before he got hurt also and could contribute next season.
You can't have a gameplan where its tj is gonna overpower everyone. It doesnt work as players get older.
If he had a better scheme instead of just telling him to run the same outside rush every play he would have more. Dick lebeau would have tj sitting on 18 sacks while having minkah be part of the game instead of just sitting in cover 2 every play.
I've been saying that all along the Steelers use to bring pressure my understanding was porter and trice was press corners
I don't think it's TJ himself slowing down as much as it is that he's just finally being accounted for properly. Other teams are just learning how to put too much between him and his target for anyone, even himself at his best, to actually be very effective. When he's doing something they aren't expecting, or he doesn't get the full package of resistance, he's still having the same sizable impacts he's always had. Teams have just learned how to constrain TJ Watt and he's struggling to overcome that or have the versatility to put wrinkles in the plans they set out for him in particular. Physical ability only gets you so far once the other team knows exactly what you'll be trying to do on every play.
It's like if Polamalu was only capable of doing what he did coming from one direction with the same motion every time, he'd still be physically capable making an impact most of the time because of the talent and unique skill advantage, but eventually everyone would have known that he was going to be in a specific place at a specific time and would have a much easier time accounting for him.
The analogy isn't perfect because the positions, and the game itself at this point are fundamentally different and I'm entirely aware that there's only so much TJ could even hypothetically do differently in his position, so it's not actually his fault in nearly as much of a capacity as the analogy makes it sound. But it's a very similar caliber of talent and a stark difference in role that illustrates the point.
For the first five or six years of TJ Watt's career, no one really had an answer for his style of play and ability, then a few people figured out how to beat him, and from there it propagated over the next year or two to the other teams with the O-line talent to put it to use.
And all the holding penalties that don't get called certainly don't help, either. But it's so consistent that you can also chalk that up to being a skill these offensive lines are learning, to make it hard for the officials to identify the holding as it's happening in real time.
The funny thing is 'slowing down' is still 11.5 sacks and 6 FF, still an objectively a fantastic stat line through 16 games. And that statline doesn't show that he's eating literally 3 blocks a lot of the time, meaning our 3-4 man rush gets pressure consistently still.
Trice was highest rated defender behind cam h last week.
LeBeau has been sorely missed since he decided to go! He was a true elite defensive coach with great humility.
Irreplaceable ✨️
I love Skatebo from Arizona st!
Jeanty. Make it so! ❤️🔥🍻
Maybe it’s an off year it happens and if an off year us 11.5 sacks 3rd most that’s funny
Still and all, dropping his production and making less impact in the second half of a season means he's following the Ms Mylie Garratt recipe for shoe-in as DPOY........
Give them Najee and Sutton and a good pick for Higgins.
Steelers need a Derek Henry …. A Jerome Bettis or Bam Morris
Tj is playing more snaps this year... in the past you would see him contort shift and spin himself to the qb. This year with less rest the energy level seems down
No no no, think fast Willie Parker. Steelers need a home-run hitter, a RB that can go 80yds not another Najee
Teams know they can keep an extra body in the backfield or chip on his side because our DBs and LBs can keep up with 3-4 eligible receivers. Until our DBs and LB pick up their game TJs effectiveness will suffer
I want Jeanty
I like your analysis. Do you think that Justin can be in the future here? I think he has the talent but they need to let him play more freely so that he can make the big plays. You have to be willing to risk the biscuit. They did not let him but they are letting Wilson and look where that is going.
I don’t think the Steelers are an organization conducive to developing QB talent… I just don’t see where it comes from.
@@mike2687 I would agree and disagree. You are mostly right. But Big Ben was here and this is not Chicago. I think Pittsburgh plays a concept of football that is conducive to qb development but Mike T needs to win a playoff game and that does not lend itself to qb dev. But they dont seem very good at rookie dev either. See Roman Wilson. GP and BRODERICK.
@@ericthurman1050 - I’m confused on what the counterpoint is that you find disagreement with-Big Ben? I think we could easily say that past OCs created a good situation for a QB like Ben.
Or just the “concept of football” aspect… stylistically, I don’t think many NFL teams are bad spots for a young QB to develop-it’s much more about the teacher than the scheme and I don’t see anyone to teach the position.
Or are you simply extending the lack of development to the defensive side as well? If so, I completely agree.
@@mike2687 I think I agree with your second opinion but my point with Ben was that Pitt has developed here and that is more than many organizations can say. The Bears, Browns, Modern Jets, Raiders, etc. I do think that coaching matters but the scheme is important too. West coast asks things from qbs that Power Run /Go deep doesnt.
Ball Control/ complementary football is a great way to start a qb. And if you give them weapons then you can get them confident. its typically the second stage where the dev stunts.
That is where you find out if the qb is a gunslinger or true game manager. If you have a game manager then you stay conservative longer. See Tom Brady.
Ben was a gunslinger and that means you have stomach picks while getting the wow plays.
but that goes for all positions and the basics and the personality.
@ - yeah, I would’ve said the Steelers were a great landing spot for Ben back then just as I would say the current (last several seasons) Steelers would not be a good spot for Ben. I don’t see any resemblance of the franchise that Ben stepped into.
Better win a playoff game. Otherwise we wasted his career.
Who cares about playoff wins
@@countof3everybodyOD Wait What!?!?
@@josephdonovan9125 - he’s saying the guy needs a SB
❤🤍💙 🖤💛
Brady used to destroy Steelers with quick throws… no secret there, but we never fix that - year after year!
Yes, he is.
Why is the Roman Wilson injury or whatever he has is so secretive? T Austin has got to go! Trice will be a good corner
Jauan Jennings would be a much better fit than Tee, guy is an absolute monster in the run game
Fire Tomlin!
I'd love to see them sign Higgins and trade Pickens the second he starts whining because Higgins is better.
I tell myself watt saving himself for the playoffs lol
if tj is slowing down do we even have a chance??
I mean 'slowing down' is still 11.5 sacks and 6 FF, while literally eating 3 blocks most of the game. And his supporting cast of edge rushers is the best it's ever been. I wouldn't be worried about Teej.
The Steelers should not evaluate WRs based on Russ or Fields being here next season. Short of something miraculous happening this January, I pray that Russ and Fields are somewhere else next season.
So you want Kyle Allen to start?
I want to keep fields
I want to see Tomlin somewhere else next year.
Not going to lie it’s seems since that colts game tj has been good just not that same game wrecker he once was..
No creativity on defense at all. Its basically just line up and beat the man in front of you.
Trade watt to Buffalo and Crosby to Colorado let them compete for a championship
Dumb comment
@NIKKI-1979 you don't think they deserve to win a championship
@@faustinomontoya1549 they are loyal to their team.
They deserve one with their teams. Crosby got a couple though so not sure what you are doing with him lol
Plenty of players who never get one in their careers. You act like TJ is so unique in that.
The Steelers should trade TJ he will never win a championship with Mike Tomlin. He deserves to win a Superbowl. He still has lots of value.
He got the money just like his brother thats what stars players do.
Thats means more than a trophy to these guys. Not being a ass. But its the truth.
The Steelers and the city of Pittsburgh deserve a Super Bowl Win. They haven’t earned it and we don’t have the leadership at the top to make it happen. It becomes clearer every year.
Mike T is crazy if he doesn't sit some guys this week TJ Minkah, Cam . I'm not getting them hurt in this game .
Watt has not been dominate, and the defense is overrated
Austin as our DC is an embarrassment. He can’t scheme horse shit. Wasting talent and a money heavy defence.
5:02 only a fool would think Higgins would go from Burrow to Wilson regardless of anything else
Bengals are not going to pay both Chase and Higgins, he may not be a Steeler but I doubt he will be a Bengal next year either.
Yep
@@EdRidge-x2i I don’t think he will be a bengal but I’m sure he doesn’t want to play with a limited QB like Wilson ..
@@mycalbrooks8161 I don't disagree with that, hopefully there is another QB on the team, but more likely a mid range QB than an elite one. Happy New Year
@@mycalbrooks8161 - Higgins and I aren’t buddies or anything, but I’d be willing to bet he’ll follow the money more so than the situation-the situation might break a tie. Not everyone chases titles.
We need to let Wilson go we don’t need a 40 year qb fields can do what Russ is doing right now for half the money
No - Fields cannot in any way do what Russ can do right now. That’s just silly.
@ what is Russ doing lately ???
Because Tomlin expects Watt to carry the team himself. Been going on way too many years.