Flow Hives. The Good. The Bad. The Brilliant
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- Flow Hives. The Good. The Bad. The Brilliant
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Use a strainer while draining honey. You'll save the bees and prevent them from going into the honey.
I have a lid for my jars with a hole in it that I run a tube to from the flow hive. Bees can't get in it
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
Dear Laurence I am a new beekeeper of July 2021 and bought a Flow beehive before I bought the bees. I don't know if you have seen Fred Dunn who has had flow hives since 2015. He is the expert on them.
We got 40 lbs of honey from our first try two weeks ago.
You have to be patient and not extract until the frames you extract from are fully capped otherwise the honey backs up & out of the open cells usually at the very bottom of the frames.
The reason for that is because the honey does not flow out of the tubes fast enough but if the cells are 100% capped that does not happen.
If I had kept to the rules and waited till all the cells were capped we would not have had backing up of the honey and we would have got 49 lbs instead of 40.
You can't beat having the hive backing onto a shed or greenhouse = no bees at the rear of the hive or in the honey!
You can't beat having half gallon containers for each frame. As the lady said a bit of cling will stop any bees getting at the honey. Or a spare lid with a hole in it and a elbow.... As per Frederick Dunn PA -USA (you tube the way to bee) who does everything right.
I have been using Flow hives since the first Crowd Funded hives and have never caught a single bee in the honey and my honey is typically extracted mid day. I drape cheese cloth over the jar and spigot. I have never seen honey leak out before the frame is opened. Have been keeping bees for about 45 years, last ten or so with Flow. The bees in honey are not dead. Other bees will clean them off. The instruction booklet says the cap does not break when the frame is opened, bees must uncap the comb. I am guessing you didn't read the instruction booklet? Anyway, I suppose the video is a good example of how not to.
We have just got our 1st honey from our Flow hive number one, bought July 21. Absolutely brilliant is the Flow hive BUT I had to smile when you said a Flow hive owner must read the operating instructions.
I think as well as that definitely see Fred Dunn =you tube=the way to bee. Flow hive owner and reviewer....since 2015
I made the mistake of not waiting till ALL the cells are capped and so observed three eggcups full of honey on the centre rear of the 'catch sheet' of the open mesh floor. We would have had 49 lbs of honey instead of 40lbs also by waiting till the time was right. That will teach me.
It is great fun to harvest a flow hive. With only two hives, there is not the issue with so many bees around. They are great fun.
I have had a flow hive for the past 4 years. I don’t extract the honey direct into the jars for the obvious reasons. I find it easier for the honey to go into a funnel and then into a container, that way I can fish out the odd bee before it goes through the funnel. The negative I do have is that every time I have extracted honey I have seen honey leaking out of the bottom of my hive. If anyone know what I am doing wrong I would be pleased to hear. My wife likes the flow hive as she doesn’t have to put up with the mess of uncapping and spinning super frames. Took 23lb off of 4 frames last week, I suspect there was more on those frames but I didn’t have the time to sit and watch the honey dribble out.
Thanks for the flow hive series.
I had about three eggcups full of honey right at the rear cells only and I feel confident it was my fault for not confirming all the cells were capped. Fred Dunn you tube the way to bee is the expert and well worth watching. He says he contacted the manufacturer of his Flow hive and they advised he would not have any leaks the second time he did an extraction. He says he did not have honey leaking into the brood second time but the first time all his bees evacuated the hive.......
All the cells may well have been capped the second time. I noticed the cells in the centre of the 7 frames at the rear were the only ones that backed up. Because I'm an old engineer I noted that can happen if too much oil is poured into a funnel and backs up quicker than the outflow. The narrower the tube the more resistance of flow.
I bought two 45 deg clear 1" elbows that will be tight against the frames next time so the honey will not be hindered by 4" of nigh on level pipe. Best wishes
I just watched another video about flow hives and she mentioned the spillage/leakage, but she just let's the bees lick it up.
When you have one or two colonies you will notice less of the bees when harvesting. My first year was really good. When I ended up with 8 colonies. I had to change my strategy for harvesting because we had robber bees come by hundreds to rob the honey we were harvesting.
The honey production over a season is much higher for the flowhives because all of the wax is still there. Wax takes a huge amount of energy for the bees to make, so not having to make it every time we harvest a super saves them a ton of time.
There are commercially available mason jar caps with holes in top to insert tubes. I’ve added a pvc elbow, to connect 2 flow tubes, and the honey is sealed away from the bees. The bees don’t enter the jar.
Great to watch your adventures 😊 It’s good to see the new equipment available for beekeepers in action 👍 Thanks Laurence 😃🇬🇧
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
Hi Laurence mate, thx I’ve enjoyed this series about the flow hives, I’d have to say these hives are perfect for the novice beek, when the honey is pouring into your jar that is a great moment, to be honest though mate the flow hive is not for me, too expensive and too easy i much prefer to have traditional hives and harvest my honey with my extractor, I will be harvesting this weekend as I’ve ran out of equipment and don’t want my colonies getting honey bound. Thx Laurence mate another great vlog.
Cheers Mark. Definitely not for everyone but I have had LOTS of fun with it!
@@BlackMountainHoney good for you mate, yes I can see you enjoyed this series.
My present from my son was 7 frame Cedar Flow Hive 2 over THOUSAND DOLLARS that went outside MAY 22 in MILD WEATHER of NEW JERSEY with few days of spring showers on & off. One of the reason paying for Cedar was that it would last longer. However, our brood box has split apart from one end to the other and 2 triangle part of the roof was splitting. ALL this within just few days, less than 2 weeks outside. This company blamed me for causing this by using Eco Wood treatment rather than using a natural wood for Cedar wood, literally calling me stupid. This company does NOT stand behind their product. Leaving me with a overpriced crap. At this point, rather than having a beautiful bee hive in my yard with my beautiful flowers & fruit trees (I planted them for my beautiful honey bees) I have this ugly brood box with shiny water proof caulking from one end to the other side. Also, the brood box has honey and nothing , there are flowers every day from early spring until the late fall here. My house is on the lake with water lilies, golden rods everywhere, flowers in my yard, flowers in my veg garden and flowering frees everywhere.
Also, Fred Dunn stated that the Eco Wood does NOT dry Cedar.
So at this point, I ended up with a overpriced broken Cedar Flow Hive.
Don't insert the key all the way to the back, only insert it a third in and turn completely (90 degrees). Then go another third in. You probably lost a lot of honey into the lower brood box cause when you crack the whole thing at once the honey will overflow out of the lower uncapped cells as the honey can't flow out of that tube section fast enough.
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
Trouble is, you're opening all of the cells. Think they meant put the key a quarter of the way in. Not sure why there is honey in the inner tube before you turned the key - all cells should be sealed. As for the bees, just fish them out with the key - the other bees will clean them up.
Ha - that's definitely what they meant! Whoops. Didnt cause too much of an issue as I extracted the whole frame but im gonna try that next time round :D
@@BlackMountainHoney I like the Flow and can't see how it can do any harm. If you want wax, that's a different matter, but you're causing less disruption and saving the bees resources by extracting this way, so how can that be a bad thing. Glad you're comparing the rip off with the original
Hey Laurence, thanks so much for this video. I look forward to all of them , especially the Flowhives. I would suggest a bit of cling film covering the tube and over the jar opening so its basically sealed up. Easy, cheap, job done. 😁
I also let the honey in the tube at the bottom of the frame, drain out of the little gap at the bottom of the tube. The bees tend to seal it up with propolis, so it just needs unsealing and the bees clean it up. I have been told it will ferment if left in the tube, and will then taint the honey that comes out behind.
I do have a bit of trouble with the frames leaking honey out the sides and going down into the brood box. That would be my negative on them. Otherwise I LOVE mine. Cheers
My present from my son was 7 frame Cedar Flow Hive 2 over THOUSAND DOLLARS that went outside MAY 22 in MILD WEATHER of NEW JERSEY with few days of spring showers on & off. One of the reason paying for Cedar was that it would last longer. However, our brood box has split apart from one end to the other and 2 triangle part of the roof was splitting. ALL this within just few days, less than 2 weeks outside. This company blamed me for causing this by using Eco Wood treatment rather than using a natural wood for Cedar wood, literally calling me stupid. This company does NOT stand behind their product. Leaving me with a overpriced crap. At this point, rather than having a beautiful bee hive in my yard with my beautiful flowers & fruit trees (I planted them for my beautiful honey bees) I have this ugly brood box with shiny water proof caulking from one end to the other side. Also, the brood box has honey and nothing , there are flowers every day from early spring until the late fall here. My house is on the lake with water lilies, golden rods everywhere, flowers in my yard, flowers in my veg garden and flowering frees everywhere.
Also, Fred Dunn stated that the Eco Wood does NOT dry Cedar.
So at this point, I ended up with a overpriced broken Cedar Flow Hive.
@@nancylee3534 I'm very sorry to hear this. It does sound like an extreme reaction in the wood!! I actually painted mine with decking stain. I reckon I put 3 coats on. It gets really hot here, and I was worried oil wouldn't be enough. Its withstanding weather well. All my other hives, Langstroth and Flow (pine) I've painted with outdoor protection paint. I had one I used in an emergency for a swarm and never got to paint it. Well, it just warped and made new entrances all around it!! I paint everything now!!
@@michelleadams1210 thank you for your concern Michelle. However, it was NOT an reaction. the Cedar wood was damaged only to show up only few days outside mild first wee k in May in on & off spring showers. Flow Hive company blamed me for using Eco Wood treatment and NOT using natural oil and it my fault and that they are not responsible for the damage. You might want to read about Eco Wood, it a wonderful stuff. Now a person from Flow Hive is saying that they would replace the broken items only if I send them detailed photos and rewrite the report and my response is I already did all that and I am NOT doing it again. When I get an apology letter, restitution, apology letter for my son who gave me the most expensive item they had for his mom's birthday gift that they didn't stand behind, I will be sharing this information about their company's rude treatment to the customers after they get the money.
Its NOT nice the way the customers are treated.
Have a Blessed Day Michelle.
@@nancylee3534 hugs to you.
They are expensive.
So sorry!! ❤
@@michelleadams1210 Thank you Michelle. You don't mind the expense if the company stand behind their product especially when their product breaks down within first few days and treat their customers with respect. BTW, there is NO honey in the Flow to get for us
Can not emphasis enough. A flexi pipe 32mm off the spout into a demijohn. The sizes are perfect no cutting jars no bees inside almost no scent of Honey to attract robbers. Give it a go. No nonsense 😁
As I said, I could have easily mitigated the issues as I have in the next video.
th-cam.com/video/n3_3g5VLxl8/w-d-xo.html
But I wanted people to see the reality of what the marketing shows you is possible!
@@BlackMountainHoney excellent. Brilliant piece of kit. Not practical for large scale but loads of fun. Will be interested to see how u clean the super at the end of the season. I put it above a crown board and also left it out another year to get robbed out. Will be interested to see your ideas on it. Thank you for the great video!
@@bzhoneyalanb8613 Thanks 😊
I think I'll be letting them clean it internally using a nadir method below a QX 😀
I use a food grade bucket with a nozzle. I have a gauze over it to keep bees out. That way I can take it inside and fill jars as needed.
Grate video so looking forward to nxt year when I can actually put my super flow hive on 🤩
Lidi's fruit/veg net. 2 rubber bands. Sorted.
great video :) I was always really tempted with a flow hive. At 14:30 you can see a bee taking out a wasp trying to rob some honey!
Completely missed that! Love seeing the bees managing the wasps!
lol i didn't have that kind of problem with the bees, but then i've only got a couple of flow hives atm, extracted from 6 out of 7 frames on a super today, and they filled 45 12oz jars. that was my first harvest from a flow hive, i'm very happy, agree about the gabled roof though, it's nice aesthetically but not so practical for feeding. still hopefully nxt year i'll have five flow hives up and running.
My son bought me a flow hive for Christmas 2023. I'm really looking forward to building it and getting a colony in.
Ooh good luck! What a great gift. Flow hives are so much fun :)
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
A stainless steel food strainer over the jar will keep the bees out.
ive never had bees come around back of the hive when im harvesting my flow. what is the box you have above your flow super?
Demaree split
Demaree method to try and avoid swarming and or make a split ;)
That’s a great video. I didn’t go the Flow route due to cost and a lot of langstroth hives. However, I may give it a try with a couple of Flow Supers just to try it out now on a limited basis.
Look carefully on Amazon
The liquid pooling in the bottom is that most likely going to be nectar that has slipped through any tiny gaps in the plastic frames before it's had excess moisture removed?
It was from my pre video experiment
Never seen pooling like that prior to extraction before. Bees wouldn't put nectar in there if it wasn't sealed.
Edit: Just a thought - maybe last weeks heatwave may have melted the wax?
@@BlackMountainHoney I firmly believe it is 'backing up'. It seems to be honey backing up out of cells that are not capped. Centre rear at bottom are as per Frederick Dunn ( you tube the way to bee ) Flow hiver since 2015 = the ones capped last.
The open mesh floor catch tray shows the 'evidence'. Another bit of 'evidence' proves that any beekeeper who gets less than a full 4 pints of honey from each frame has done his extraction too soon.
Patience is a virtue = especially when it comes to Flow hives.
I didn’t buy a flow hive because so many people were negative. With 3 hives at home and needing to go buy an extractor I can see the appeal.
I would like to see how you go about treating and wintering the hive.
Thanks for sharing
Definitely take the Flow super off. Please see Frederick Dunn who is the expert and has bought Flow hives since 2015. Fantastic photography also. Nice man.
I have had great success with the flow hive. You need to follow the directions they give.
My present from my son was 7 frame Cedar Flow Hive 2 over THOUSAND DOLLARS that went outside MAY 22 in MILD WEATHER of NEW JERSEY with few days of spring showers on & off. One of the reason paying for Cedar was that it would last longer. However, our brood box has split apart from one end to the other and 2 triangle part of the roof was splitting. ALL this within just few days, less than 2 weeks outside. This company blamed me for causing this by using Eco Wood treatment rather than using a natural wood for Cedar wood, literally calling me stupid. This company does NOT stand behind their product. Leaving me with a overpriced crap. At this point, rather than having a beautiful bee hive in my yard with my beautiful flowers & fruit trees (I planted them for my beautiful honey bees) I have this ugly brood box with shiny water proof caulking from one end to the other side. Also, the brood box has honey and nothing , there are flowers every day from early spring until the late fall here. My house is on the lake with water lilies, golden rods everywhere, flowers in my yard, flowers in my veg garden and flowering frees everywhere.
Also, Fred Dunn stated that the Eco Wood does NOT dry Cedar.
So at this point, I ended up with a overpriced broken Cedar Flow Hive.
My present from my son was 7 frame Cedar Flow Hive 2 over THOUSAND DOLLARS that went outside MAY 22 in MILD WEATHER of NEW JERSEY with few days of spring showers on & off. One of the reason paying for Cedar was that it would last longer. However, our brood box has split apart from one end to the other and 2 triangle part of the roof was splitting. ALL this within just few days, less than 2 weeks outside. This company blamed me for causing this by using Eco Wood treatment rather than using a natural wood for Cedar wood, literally calling me stupid. This company does NOT stand behind their product. Leaving me with a overpriced crap. At this point, rather than having a beautiful bee hive in my yard with my beautiful flowers & fruit trees (I planted them for my beautiful honey bees) I have this ugly brood box with shiny water proof caulking from one end to the other side. Also, the brood box has honey and nothing , there are flowers every day from early spring until the late fall here. My house is on the lake with water lilies, golden rods everywhere, flowers in my yard, flowers in my veg garden and flowering frees everywhere.
Also, Fred Dunn stated that the Eco Wood does NOT dry Cedar.
So at this point, I ended up with a overpriced broken Cedar Flow Hive.
Is that an additional brood box or honey super above your flowhive box?
Great video thank you for putting it together, flow is just wonderful
can someone explain how is the plastic higenic and safe to use? honest question
I’ve you never some pollen in the the frame, how do you clean it?
I think they're fabulous but what bugs me is the price is over high end and then still need a stand and another brood box on top! The bees in the honey is incredibly off putting but I'd love one of these, maybe sneak in second hand if I'm lucky somewhere. Would be interested in how the other version goes do you still have it?
Look carefully on UK Amazon and choose carefully
Had to subscribe. I personally prefer seeing the real process as opposed to something "perfect".
My bees didn't even come around to the back to see what I was doing. 2 extractions now done - I couldn't be happier.
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
use double keys, and only open first 10 cms of frame first. Each full flow frame will produce about 1.5kgs of honey. use long nose pliers to add and remove plastic blanks. Well done
Nice one. Like the pliers tip :D
@@BlackMountainHoney Pleasure, we've all been there. One last hint for you, to prevent the remaining honey pooling in the bottom of the frame at the end of the extraction, make sure the little drain slit at the bottom of the frame is clear of wax. (It's the little slit, the extraction tube extension. slots into. )
@@Banyan314 Oooh we love tips! Keep them coming 😉
only stick your key in 4" or so and turn it all the way. by sticking it all the way in, you broke the wax capping on all of the frame, so you need to extract the whole frame or you're going to have a mess down below, drown bees in honey!
Nice tip! :D
💪😎👌 RESPECT!! I'm so glad you picked out the positives aswel on a revolutionary Hive -
Especially on the cheaply made "flow hives" are still GOOD if you know how to ADAPT & ADJUST !
I saw a Texas Man who's said the same thing about even the cheaply made ones and how good they are and
SIMPLY MADE ADJUSTMENTS.
✅ Lazy bee keepers complain ...
✅ Everlasting Bee Keepers keep evolving!
✅ Think about how often the humble Bee has had to Adjust & Evolve ?!
✅ I wish other Bee Keepers Were Just as Adaptive !
❤️❤️ Thanks so much for this video!
I've saved so much of your content to keep myself learning and evolving too! ❤️❤️❤️
:D thanks for the positivity! :D
Would you recommend one for someone that just wants a small honey production for friends and family
yes - definitely
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
God knows how you have so many bees around you. I would have to put an open box of bees in front of me to have that many bees while been at the back of a hive.
Why not try a mesh jar lid to keep the bees out of the jar?
I think a screen cage might keep the bees out of the honey
I see so there are so many plastic pieces. Do not it degrade in few years and start to break during extraction?
Honey glazed bees would probably make good chicken food
None of my frames has pooling of honey in the bottom of flow tube??? As seen before you crack them open....harvesting mine later this week and have nearly all 7 capped off.
Good luck with them. I think it was pooling from my pre video experiment ;)(
You can use your key to get the bees 🐝 stuck in the honey 🍯. The other bees 🐝 will clean them up and you save your bees 🐝
I’ve never had a bee go into a jar I’m filling.
Dude - fish the bees out and the others will clean them up. Can’t believe you left a ton of dead bees in those jars and put the lids on.
A loose piece of cling film would help protect the honey as you’re draining it if necessary but we’ve never had any come to steal, try collecting when they less active!
The whole thing seems to be a mess, maybe try reading the manual or watching some videos on the flow super!
As I said, I could have easily mitigated the issues as I have in the next video.
th-cam.com/video/n3_3g5VLxl8/w-d-xo.html
But I wanted people to see the reality of what the marketing shows you is possible!
Throw over a small towel. Or netting. But you might already own a towel.
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
Cool video Laurence - though I suspect you know that things can only get better ;)
If you love crunchy peanut butter why not try BMH crunchy honey.....LIMITED EDITION
Ha! I did fish them out in the end :D
Put a damp cloth over the tube and jar
A trick I've seen on other videos, is to put a small piece of cellophane over the top to keep the bees from flying into it 😂
what's gone off with the paint on that bottom box?
Painting over a previously oiled box. Should have sanded it back and primed it
Awesome ! I am waiting to compare it to your auto frame (Chinese copy) and here your thoughts.
Dare I say it our first one £200,,,, The second one £170 from A.
Additional things need buying or making. mesh floor and another brood either medium but I wished I'd made 'deeps' to match the brood supplied. The bees bust at the seams second season with a deep and a half...... That is when the varroa have bit the catch tray!
on my flow I use a five gallon bucket with a hole in the lid. No spills or bees in honey.
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
Great video wonder if a mesh screen with a rubber band around it to hold it on the jar
I think your vent is in closed position. Pretty sure level on bottom is open.
Can i ask what gloves you are wearing. Recently had a very nasty sting to the hand
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
My present from my son was 7 frame Cedar Flow Hive 2 over THOUSAND DOLLARS that went outside MAY 22 in MILD WEATHER of NEW JERSEY with few days of spring showers on & off. One of the reason paying for Cedar was that it would last longer. However, our brood box has split apart from one end to the other and 2 triangle part of the roof was splitting. ALL this within just few days, less than 2 weeks outside. This company blamed me for causing this by using Eco Wood treatment rather than using a natural wood for Cedar wood, literally calling me stupid. This company does NOT stand behind their product. Leaving me with a overpriced crap. At this point, rather than having a beautiful bee hive in my yard with my beautiful flowers & fruit trees (I planted them for my beautiful honey bees) I have this ugly brood box with shiny water proof caulking from one end to the other side. Also, the brood box has honey and nothing , there are flowers every day from early spring until the late fall here. My house is on the lake with water lilies, golden rods everywhere, flowers in my yard, flowers in my veg garden and flowering frees everywhere.
Also, Fred Dunn stated that the Eco Wood does NOT dry Cedar.
So at this point, I ended up with a overpriced broken Cedar Flow Hive.
Nice looking light honey.
Just use some kitchen wrap over the tube and jar it will keep the bees out. I have never had any bees get in my jar. Yours were really busy.
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
Why didn't you just cover the spout & jar with cling wrap? No need to kill so many bees, you could scoop them out & put them on the landing board for the other bees to clean up!
Why not put a light mesh over the jar?
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
What if you just draped a piece of bug fabric over it?
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
Look up the lids made by Frederick Dunn and his flow hive. It’s brilliant
Right on the nail...... I cannot imagine anyone no matter how experience d a beekeeper who would not gain something from Watching Fred Dunn's videos. He must be the best advisor re Flow Hives than anyone on the Planet and that includes you know who beginning with a C.
We did exactly as Fred said and we got 40 lbs of honey from our first Flow Hive. If we had been more patient we would have got 49 lbs. This was due to not waiting till all the cells are capped. People with flow hives think this is leaking but I firmly believe it is honey backing up and out of any open cells at the very bottom row centre back which are the last to be capped.
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
That honey is not even cured.
I've used the Flow Super, not really impressed. Just my honest opinion.
I have to say I am very impressed with it. Not for everyone. Not cheap. Fiddly. Lots of bits to lose. but FUN
I have a flow hive in my garden and it’s easy and simple to work! The traditional hive needs so much more equipment and space to get the honey out, that’s why I choose a flow hive. 🐝🍯🐝
Pretty sure it’s an easy fix to 3D print a vented elbow and lid to stop any of your girls getting trapped.
I emptied 2 flow frames this evening, I agree it's great to watch the honey flow into the jar. That makes 6 frames I have emptied now including one frame twice. Refilled and recapped in 10 days ! None of mine had honey behind the bottom cap though, did you test turning the key before you started the video ?
use a piece of hardware cloth over the bottle. honey in, keeps bees out of honey.
Hi lawrance great vid have you tried the cheap Chinese copy one yet ?
It's about 3 weeks behind this one. They've just stated working the supers properly
@@BlackMountainHoney = A company £170 for a complete basic. Needs a mesh floor & either a deep or medium added to what's supplied. Worked admirably two weeks ago... I hope the millionaire in Oz doesn't find out. They might have gone up a bit since Christmas 21. That was the very cheapest on UK ---A . The first was over £200
Look up TH-camr Frederic Dunn he has a flow routine that works.
check out fred dunns videos. he uses an elbow with a cap for the jar
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Why not put a screen over the jar?
You misunderstood the advice about putting the bar key in. You don't put it all the way in and turn it 1/4. You put it 1/4 of the way in and turn it all the way... then you put it half way in and turn it , then 3/4s and turn it, then put it all the way in and turn it. And yeah, all you need is a small piece of plastic wrap to save those bees... that was just ridiculous doing it like that.
I really not happy that u didn't try to save the bees
I picked them out and put them back.in the hive
I'm not sure why I found those bees taking a dive into the jar so hilarious, I couldn't stop laughing
OK so thoughts😢
Positive.... flow hives work from the original builder in Australia 😅
Chinese ones don't seem to bee..... as good.
Iam going to get a chinese and modify so will see what happens😅
I've found the Chinese ones to be just as good if not better in terms of sizing, QC and usability
I watched the videos on the flow hives. I didn't like them at all because I leave 1 midem for my girls because they worked there butts off for the honey.
Can't you just put a screen cover over the jar? Then bees won't go in with the honey and can maybe extricate themselves and survive.
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When you harvest from the proper side, you do get far less bee interaction...
I harvested from the back? It would be chaos if I harvested from the front!
WHY ARE YOU JUST LETTING THE BEES DROWN!!!
just wow, lasy!
Not lazy. Proving a point that you need some sort of mechanism to stop robbing bees entering the jars..
Like this...
th-cam.com/video/n3_3g5VLxl8/w-d-xo.html
I scooped the bees back out and placed them in their own brood box to limit any disease spread. They were fine.
Even though I don't really want to admit it, flow hives make perfect sense for the discerning keeper with a hive or two in the back yard. I don't own any, however you cannot deny the positives.
As for the odd bee in the honey, can't be more than get killed popping lids, frames etc. Look forward to the updates, damit 😂
pro tip... frederick dunn video.. flowhive honey harvest
As I said, I could have easily mitigated the issues as I have in the next video.
th-cam.com/video/n3_3g5VLxl8/w-d-xo.html
But I wanted people to see the reality of what the marketing shows you is possible!
@@BlackMountainHoney ayee... i saw what u did there ..LoL
@@BlackMountainHoney Dear Edward If any Flow Hive owner has not had the time to watch all of Frederick Dunn's Flow hive videos You Tube since 2015 then that owner is missing out. He is an unbiased Flow Hive reviewer and better than even the designer of the Flow Hive re instructing the flow hive fraternity how to do it......
Sme do need a lesson or three don't they. No worries.
All of them instead of work let our eyes do their thing shut up and work
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Few bees let's the customers know it's real honey lol ... I tell people get few years experience before trying flow hive.. manufacturer seems to target new bee keepers in they're adds .. really not for beginners ask me..
I'm a new beekeeper. My first hive was a Flow hive. It's easy to use if you follow the instructions. It's WAY easier to extract honey from my Flow hive, than my 3 other Langstroths, as I have no extracting equipment. I just crush and strain or cut out the honeycomb from them. Whatever you do that is new, you need to learn properly.
@@michelleadams1210 comb honey worth alot more than liquid why crush and strain it ?
@@hootervillehoneybees8664 I do both. I only have 4 hives. I don't sell any. It's just a hobby at the moment. I gift to family and friends, and use the honey and comb in our restaurant.
Best design for years. Looking at honey extraction through the eyes of an engineer it is a very cleaver idea. The only drawback for me was the cost so I looked on A and was pleasantly surprised so I've now got two...... and yes if the bees are treated with care and the full Flow hive instructions are kept to, then
and only then the Flow hive is fantastic.
I could have made a stainless centrifugal extractor that would have cost a lot so I thought it was a good idea to try the new fangled Flow hive and I'm glad I did.
Y don't u sàve the bees. Also put a mesh over the jar
Bees saved. Whole point was to disprove what the marketing shows you is achievable. With my bees anyway!
As a new flow hive user I have to say I am speechless with this video!
First I am not sure if your bashing flow hive or praising it?
I don't think you looked at the video's they offer on how to use the flow hive. First off I am not sure what you were talking about with the shelf, the brackets go on the bood box and are easly ajusted for your jar size!
Also those bee's looked way too stirred up for a hive not even open yet. That seems scary to a new hive person if they saw that and didn't know.
On that key, after you said about how far you were told to put it in and turn, you rammed it all the way in and tried to turn it. NOT THE WAY TO DO IT!
It looked also that you have a another super on top maybe saving for some honey cone, if you had of waited before adding that the flows in the super would have been super filled and capped ready.
I was also very sad to see those bee's in the honey and you filled that jar right to the top and put the lid on it with your bee's in there. You could have easly stopped all of that from happening. Those little guys worked so hard to make that honey for you and you should have respected them better, shame on you! Cover the tube and jar top with a cloth or netting and they won't get in the jar!
What was the smoker for? As you didn't open the brood and don't have to smoke when getting the honey from the flow.
This video is a good show on everything not to do with the flow hive or any hive for that matter. You seem like you do a lot of hives but not sure how you have not had those bee's come after you the way you handle them.
I'm not being rude to you, but as a new bee keeper I would have been scared to death if I saw your video before I started!
Also to some of the commits about the cost of a flow! Why not also point out that this is a research delvelopment project and a lot of money when you buy goes to bee conservation and teaching new bee keepers. From the way they handle, talk and care for the bee's, they treat them as any other pet and care deeply about not smashing or killing them in the process of getting the honey!
Thank you for hearing me out there!
Hi
Thanks for your comment.
Your points pretty much nail why I did this video. To give an alternative and unbiased view of what the bees/situation can be like when you take it out of a marketing situation. I am not paid by Flow and bought my own equipment - so deserve my opinion.
I've always maintained. I LOVE the Flow Hive. Its cool and there is nothing quite like it. BUT, its not at easy as the marketing videos make out.
Not all bees are super calm. Most bees will come and get interested in the honey so there needs to be a way of blocking the bees from it. I knew this in advance of the video and I assume Flow did as well. But i wanted to show what happens when it doesnt work.
When the honey is ripe for flowing, its generally robbing season in the UK. One drop of honey and it stirs them up like this. Just a fact of the UK timing. Not mentioned anywhere in marketing videos.
With regards to full turns vs quarter turns, its all about preference. Quarter turns will do it but it takes AGES. Works fine on a full turn. Maybe not quite as efficient as you lose a bit of honey in the hive, but it works just fine. All about preference.
Smoker always on hand when I am doing any inspections.
My job isn't to sell Flow Hives to new beekeepers, rather give them an honest appraisal of the system and how it works. Its faults, its flaws, what I dont like - and also what I do like. And there is no mistake. I love the Flow Hive and recommend it all the time. I am just not paid by Flow to say that so I dont have to sugar coat the message ;)
Regards to cost. I guarantee. Anybody and EVERYBODY would prefer if they did away with bee conservation (a problem that isnt actually a problem anywhere) and teaching (something I do for FREE) and took 50% off the cost of the hive. Its a marketing ploy unfortunately to enable to sell them at extortionate prices. You can buy a fake flow hive for £100. That means the £700 difference on the RRP is PROFIT. Nice margins.
Again you are mistaking a product promotion video for an honest appraisal of a product. Of course they arent going to show you bees getting caught in the jars. Why would they?
I didnt want mine to get stuck - but I knew if I followed the staged marketing videos advice, they would get stuck in the jar. Look at the next video in the playlist where I devised a system to ensure bees didnt get stuck. I did that because I care about the bees and have shown that to everyone to help protect their bees as well.
FLOW have a multi million dollar marketing team who are brilliant at what they do. They also have TONNES of dead loyal fans who will protect them under all circumstances. All I am offering is an alternative view to the product from a non paid perspective.
Would I buy another Flow Hive? - Yes.
Do I recommend Flow Hives to people? - Yes
I am big fan of the Flow Hive, the product, the marketing team, the owners etc.. All brilliant in what they do.
But, Ill continue to use the Flow Hive in the UK and give my honest, unfiltered views and reflections :)
Thank you for your response, says a lot about you as a video person that you actually took time to write back! I am in the desert here in Las Vegas. I am new at bee keeping but always had a hidden passion to it since high school. March I will get my first bee's and then the fun begin's. Thank you again for your response.@@BlackMountainHoney
@@ronnewsome362 Best of luck with your bees! The journey is amazing! Thanks for watching 👀 🙂
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
I want to Honey export do you agree
You need to learn how to use it. Start at their instructional booklet and videos.
Their videos show free flowing honey with no bees pestering the honey jars.
@@BlackMountainHoneySome do. The majority show them using waxed paper to cover the outlet and jar.
By doing it the wrong way, you are looking for trouble.....
Intentionally..... Or naively......
Many boxes around... Definitely not a beginner.
Am not at all sold on these flow hives, this video helps confirm my suspicions of the kind of problems you can have with them. I prefer the traditional way of removing frames of capped honey in one go for processing as I like to cause as little stress as possible to my colonies and zero drowned bees. By harvest they're used to you being in the hive so they won't suspect they're about to be robbed of their honey frames. In my experience taking honey multiple times from the same hive is a recipe for making pissy, defensive bees-they aren't stupid.
Looks like a complete faff to me ☹️
just take the bees out befor closing the jar dude... wtf, and why dont you just put a plasticbag around the hose at first. i mean it's clear that the bees would fall into the jar and die
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
I have bees. I had to stop watching this video. Watching you make no effort to keep the bees out of the honey and saying that all these bees are going to die was just terrible. A complete turn off. It could have been prevented
the bees were saved. The video was to prove that the marketing inaccurate and the bees are quite clearly attracted to the flowing honey
It just seems like you did everything wrong. Almost like you didn't do any research or read instructions. First of all, why do you have so many bees flying around the backside of your hives where you are trying to harvest with the Flow super? And why didn't you just use some wax paper or plastic wrap to cover the flow tube and top of jar? then no bees could get into the jar. The negative points that you point out were actually caused by your erroneous use of the Flow Hive. I suggest you start over and get things setup properly.
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad
Bro did you pay money to get a bunch of bot comments?
Nope. Why would I do that? Cant see any spam comments either?
This video is surely a joke. You start out wanting to only fill a pint jar, what? I can see that the flow super was not set up properly with honey already drained to the bottom where there should be nothing there until open the cells with key. Do you even know how the system works? The cells that are visible are not filled and capped. Total fail. Cringe.
I am from Bangladesh Abdur Razzak can anyone help me I want to export honey from Bangladesh to abroad