When constructive criticism is misread as insults, there’s no room for growth. That’s the issue with Swift, Drake, and a half dozen acclaimed artists who aren’t challenged (or challenging themselves) at all.
Look what happened to Dua. She was mocked and critiqued for her horrible dancing and lack of stage presence. She went, trained, and now she’s becoming a pop icon (imo). Like I actually respect her a lot as an artist. She saw that she had a lot to improve and she said “I’ll prove them all that I can do it” and she did. Do I think some ppl were unnecessarily mean? Yeah, but at the same time constantly bringing up that her skills were less than lacking, she and her label realized she needed to do something about it. So they did. Kudos to her for taking it all in stride. Now she’s taken the memes and made them iconic and worked them back into her favor.
@@uraharasenpai8852 it wasn’t really constructive criticism, it was just bullying 😅lol And probably she was gonna grow regardless because of experience not because she needs everybody to say what they did
Exposing her ex's depression like that to her RABID DOGS of a fanbase, knowing that they will attack him mercilessly, and not even trying to tell her fans to stop, IS DESPICABLE! He most likely despises her now and i wouldn't blame her. He trusted her with that and in her pettiness broke the trust
Y’all are overreacting I don’t think that’s the situation at all, what her fanbase does is outside of her control. And SHE DID TELL HER DANS TO STOP ARE YOU SLOW????
@@Flixtexthe world would be sm better if swifties could just accept criticism and not give death threats to people. U really think ur superior for liking her? True form of glazing and coping Im a swiftie too (red and folklore are top albums) i went to watch the eras movie bought merch and im not afraid to admit that this album was awful as well. Its not just “haters” casual listeners and the non delusional swifties see how bad this is. U just need to grow up
I like some songs and enjoyed a few others, I think the second part of the album sounds all the same, I dont remember most of it, also, I love Jack but they working together brings the worst in each other, it's time to work with new people
Fr Bleachers is one of my fav band and I like their latest album as well, it was good but this really is Taylor's weaskest album till date. @SnapeArgento
@@CK_Godoth bleachers music is so goooood, also Jack's work with lana is amazing, I know he and taylor are good friends but maybe she needs to go with new producers, at least for a while, Aaron has done some of her best work imo
Also, she can’t take much risk None of the 30 songs have a chorus NOT ONE. She barely moves an octave or two Her lack of vocal range is her Achilles heel This is why celebrities and vocal experts don’t like her nearly as much as random white girls in the south and mid west
When your fame is predicated on being an edge-free safe space for "good" white girls then even the risks you take--as so many Swifties are claiming with TTPD--will be predictably tame or even cringe.
I would’ve been hesitant to marry her if I were Joe too. She clearly wanted Ratty for years (she admitted in a song that past tracks on folklore/evermore were actually about him). Joe knew. He asked if they were just friends. Between depression and knowing that she’s pining for some other dude, why would he propose?
And she wrote a song talking about how she still misses Matty Healy and attacked everyone who called her out for dating a racist man In her song she literally said I’m sick of all this B and moaning like what you’re the one that dated a racist and now you’re mad at people for calling it out it seems very manipulative
@@HaileyJackson10 Maybe he's an alpha male or a kind, understanding and supportive guy, or makes her laugh and happy. There may be lots of good qualities in him.
When the Beatles got to a point where everything they did was praised and too big to fail, they started taking more risks and doing things that nobody would think to do and now the music from that point in their careers is remembered as their best. Taylor could’ve done absolutely anything and it would’ve sold, but unlike the Beatles, I doubt it will be remembered.
Firstly, I'm not a fan. Secondly, I finally listened to her music. I did enjoy some hated some. She would be at #357 or #358 on my rated list of "Singers I Enjoy Listening To" I've listened to AC/DC, Nirvana, Clearwater Creedence Revival, Sterophonics, Third Eye Blind, NSYNC, Jessica Simpson, Shania Twain, Blue October, Dolly Parton, Agnes Obel, Astrid S, amongst a few others. I feel like British, Danish and Canadian Singers are way, way better than Taylor and they should have as much spotlight as her. Yes, some of them are no longer working but it would be awesome to hear their music on the radio and at least mentioned twice. ✌️🎹🎹🎹 Almost forgot, NEEDTOBREATHE, Kodaline, Hozier, Cathedrals (Metal, Coventry, UK).
I am not a swifitie but I do think she does do some interesting stuff with her music. Its harder now because of the sheer amount of people making music, to be experimental in the same way the beetles were. I think the slight subtlties in how shes experimenting is notable when really listening. I do agree with you, I think the music shes putting out now (not the re-records) will not be as remembered because they sound so similar.
@strawberrycreme7181 Much like freelancing, fashion, music, etc There's a high saturation of repetitive everything, really. Everyone is copying each other, with a few exceptions in creative arts and/or groups. I won't lie here, I hate lying. Some of Taylor's music does have that Boost of identity and a message. It's different from most songs. But once she began making, creating more music over a short time. It is not boosting anything, it's flavourless, saturated salt & sparkles. And that's all. The flavourless songs will be forgotten and replaced over the years by new music, and even by the top 3 albums she created prior to 2024 (2038). Lol! She will be tired of writing music on heartbreak and will, in time, will write music for her children, her parents, her spouse, whoever he may be. That's just my teatime thoughts 😄 🍵
personally i dont think the lyrics are that complicated, and it being long does make sense if you read her twitter post and the epilogue written in the vinyl booklet. the album is supposed to be her experience or a manic episode of her situationship with ratty after her relationship with joe ended. if you noticed, the entire aesthetic in fortnight mv, which is the thesis of the album, she seems to be in an asylum which depicts the entire ordeal of this album
@@YukichiChan And with editing, and time to refine the idea she could have had something, but instead it's bloated and hard to see if that was her intention artistically. The album lacks cohesion, something time would have given her a chance to do. Taylor is having an Icarus moment.
@@YukichiChan why is she talking about manic episodes if shes not even bipolar? she doesnt even believe in therapy or psychiatry! this is so wrong of her, making mental illness a aesthetic and using it to make a vapid interpretation ugh
I have been a swiftie for a very long time, and yet even I am tired of other swifties constantly telling people "you don't like this album because you just don't get it"...🤡
i’ve been a fan since i was 7 (24 now) and there’s not one song i like on this album i found myself zoning out and skipping 🙃 and i usually love all her music but this one just wasn’t for me
I've felt this way about Taylor Swift's songs for a while. She has had some good songs in the past, but the hype around her right now is not justified at all.
None of us can decide who deserves to be popular. She's popular for a reason and different strokes for different folks. I hated evermore and i did not enjoy TTPD but at the end of the day plenty if people do and that's fine too. I think the video was more of a constructive criticism of the album, and an observation of her risk aversion of late than one of questioning her fame.
FRENCH BRAIDS IN A PATTERN LOVE YOU TILL THE MOON AND SATURN PASSED DOWN LIKE FOLK SONGS THE LOVE LASTS SO LONGGG 😭‼️🫵 ( folklore was THEEE album for taylor no lie )
@felixsfivestarmichelin2344 ikr, it was disappointing when ttpd didn't sound like those albums, instead we got "'charlie puth should be a bigger artist"
not gonna lie, the album Might have been slightly better if had just called it "teenage petulance" because then we'd have an idea of where she's coming from, rather than expecting the album to be folkmore poetry
I agree, but I can't speculate about what was behind that. Taylor isn't sloppy like that. What would make sense is if North and Taylor were friends and kept in touch and Kim told her they had to cut ties. I'm sure Taylor wouldn't bring her up if there wasn't a motive.
I agree I think she likes making money and likes being on top, but also wants to be taken seriously as an artist. And I think those wants are okay, but she’s churning out work like clockwork so I’m not surprised. I’m not a fan of hers but I respect her business decisions for the most part but this is just ???? Part of making great art is that it imitates life which means you have to live it. Obviously the average Joe who does art as a hobby cannot afford to stop working. But artists especially as big as her, can. She’s been in our faces nonstop since 2020/2021? When she released folklore. She in the last 3-4 years has released 4 original albums, I think like 5 re-recordings, had one of if not the biggest world tour, and one of her highest profile relationships which is very public and is profiting off of it. She is way too overexposed. She hasn’t “clocked out “ of work for four years. She needs to sit back and live life so she can create new ideas that are interesting and show growth. Be like dua lipa and go on vacation or something
I think that’s what it is… she wants to maintain her spot at the top. She’s probably the biggest artist in terms of media coverage and sales since Michael Jackson. When people are constantly releasing, that’s usually when they are at their most popular (Drake, Ariana Grande from 2018-2019) Dua Lipa took a break and she isn’t doing as good in the charts and success that she saw in 2020-2021. With Taylor’s fan support, I do think she should be able to take a break and come back strong though.
@@RNM-bu4rj I disagree that’s definitely not what it is. Sabrina Carpenter is on the rise, and Taylor helped promote her on The Eras Tour and make her a big star. I don’t think she wants to stop artists from making it big per se, but she does want her spot at the top.
she needs to pick and chose because she legitimately can't do both! It's either she prioritizes artistry and creativity or she prioritizes making more money. She wants her cake and eat it too
Dua Lipa’s current era is flopping rather hard so I guess it makes sense why Taylor doesn’t want to take a lengthy break. She still should, though. She def has a stronger fan base and I think she’d be fine.
TTPD sounds like a bunch of songs that were rejected from Midnights *edit: I feel like Joe's depression meshed with Taylor when they first got together because she was also at her lowest and wanted to hide away with someone who understood her sadness. But once her reputation rebounded and she was on top of the world again and happy, his depression got too difficult to deal with.
This whole 'Joe was depressed' narrative is exactly what Taylor wanted yet I haven't seen any one else validating her claims.. As far as I can see he was busy working on movie & TV projects doing interviews promos for them & having a lot of fun.. His co-stars, male & female have nothing but good things to say about him, praising his sense of humour and kindness.. I think he was over trying to make a relationship with a jealous narcissist work once it became apparent she was lusting after an old flame, I guess he got a bit sad about it all, which isn't the same as clinically depressed, which is the swifties take..
Preach! Plus she wanted to just marry, NOT to marry him and I think Joe knew it. I think is the song "bejeweled" she says she's too bombastic for him, so her ideal relation is one when she's adored all the time and never challenged... yeah I get it why all those man dump her.
She releases a new album so often now that all her songs blend together for me now. She’s made me realize how much more I appreciate artists who have some time in between their albums(Adele for example)
I saw one reviewer said she’s the level of fame now that Oprah was in the ‘90’s, given her influence in the music scene, helping to save movie theatres with her concert documentary, and even helping sell NFL merch for that football player she’s dating. And well… I can see it.
"helping to save movie theaters" palease - there are big but-fill-seats movies before and after that one - I am sure it didn't suck to get another, but it's part of a much larger group.
@@xBINARYGODx Movie theaters have been on life-support since the pandemic and streaming services. They’ve been doing decently since Megan came out. But when an action or super hero movie isn’t playing, they really struggle. The Taylor concert movie definitely helped. Just like her tour helped revive small local economies and hotels around the world. I don’t follow her music, but her impact on businesses doesn’t need to be minimized.
I don’t think she contributes much to the influence of music. No one chases after the other”Taylor” sound and I don’t think that Taylor has a signature sound. Such as the predecessors Michael Jackson or Madonna or even Prince. People notices Taylor’s voice but she doesn’t have a sound that’s “hers”. But she does have the best success in current times.
@@devon53421 Right. I think it’s kinda interesting how she has been able to be as famous and above-reproach as she is (among her fans) while having almost no distinctive voice or stage presence. Every other generational idol in the past that I can think of has been one-of-a-kind, vocally.
she needs to continue with folklore/evermore type stuff cause not only was that her best work but the better songs off ttpd (chloe,the bolter, the albatross etc) remind me a lot of folklore/evermore.
@@MmDisney200 true, and I envy her work ethic, but at this point she seems to work too much, and in the wrong direction. I'm scared to admit that reputation - lover - folklore - evermore period is her peak so far. nothing can beat folklore. she needs to start writing songs about imaginary love triangles and houses again
@@MmDisney200actually they wouldn’t because her working as much as she is is why this album has mixed reviews. it’s become quantity over quantity, overexposure and eventually burnout.
@@lunarblake to YOU… I don’t have any issues with her releasing music and based on the streams, the world is happy too 😅 I don’t think any artist should worry about what haters say, they don’t listen to her anyway
Big fan of her music but this album was clearly not for me. She is kinda in a state where she can do anything now and she won't lose fans, kind of like Drake. I think she's reached her ceiling with Jack too, very obvious here. The Dessner produced tracks were much better too in this album too. I'm not sure if comfort or if its just her in a state where she just does wants what she wants and that's how I feel really listening it. I don't have any desire or urge to relisten her songs on this album outside of several songs.
... Drake is a boring artist... Monotone in delivery, as if having a bad day in spoken poetry class... I hope Taylor doesn't go that far and deep in failing...
She didnt need to release this 30 track album after the biggest tour of the last 20 years, superbowl bf, and hit album all within 14 years. If anything she needs to step out of the scene some, not keep saturating us with her when so many are already sick of her
I find her early music more entertaining. It felt frivolous and fun. As she grows, the narrative is tired. It’s no longer fun. It’s a self indulgent introspective look that lacks ownership. But people see it as empowering or reclaiming, but it just isn’t it.
I was going to write a post about how she still acts like a teen. Like with a majority of people what become famous when they're still developing, she was stunted and keeps acting that way. Her music was always too juvenile for me and she's only one year or two years older. 22 sounded like a teen daydreaming about their entering their adulthood.
you’re commenting under a comment that speaks about how her music has moved away from being light hearted bops - why? Coz she’s a grown ass woman who obviously doesn’t resonate with that. It’s true that when you grow older, life becomes more complex, grey. You lose thag youthful fervour and that’s obviously reflected in her songs. I don’t get how you listened to her album and got a “childish” vibe. There were songs that took on a girlish character but the topics were very adult - desiring another when depressed in a relationship, the psychology of fame, giving up on someone a relationship after you give it everything you had, naively thinking you can change a man. Are adults saints
I honesty don't think she's going to win as there have been some articles of people tearing her down which is funny as previous months they were licking her ass up but as a Swiftie I honestly think she won't win
Same! I think Midnights had some bops here and there but I think Midnights was wayyyy too overhyped and honestly should not have gotten album of the year🥲. Evermore and Folklore (though both dropped in the same year) are 2 of her best most recent albums in my opinion.
@TheJosman I agree, Taylor is talented in her songwriting skills however I feel like she has fallen susceptible to producing more quantity over quality. Prime example, she has consecutively dropped about 4 albums back to back if I'm not mistaken (Folklore July 2020, Evermore Dec. 2020, Midnights October 2022 and TTPD 2024 PLUS her re-recordings). I admire her work ethic but like Honest said in this video quality control is needed.
The diss track about Kim Kardashian isn't the serve Taylor and her fans think that it is. That fiasco was almost 10 years ago and Kim hasn't even talked about Taylor since then. The song just seems petty and childish at Taylor's big age. I think Taylor's critics might be on to something when they say she's stuck in a teenage mindset
the song quite literally thanks her and says she forgives her because it eventually made her heal inner traumas from school she didnt even realize she still had and now feels grateful. why are you literally lying
@@mhmhmbmltfapomtydt Dude why are you lying. You need to actually read the lyrics cuz ain't nothing in that song says forgiveness. The thanks is clearly sarcastic and vindictive not genuine "All that time you were throwing punches. I was building something. And I CAN'T FORGIVE THE WAY YOU MADE ME FEEL. Screamed fuck you, Aimee to the night sky as the blood was gushing" Then talking about how her kids will come home singing a song that only us two is gonna know is about you.
If you want to be thought of as a deep, poetic soul as the title implies ... don't mention a Kardashian on your album. Kim ain't no saint but I agree it was immature. She became famous at 14 and has always been rich, and that has caused her growth to stall because she was never challenged.
@@mhmhmbmltfapomtydt She gave a sarcastic thanks to Kim after spending the entire song bashing her. If Taylor really forgave her then why equate Kim and Kanye to "trash taking itself out" in her Times interview earlier in the year? The bigger point is why even make a song about Kim at all? Why dredge up a feud that happened almost a decade ago? She knows her crazy stans are just gonna want to bash Kim again for old beef the same way they did to Jake Gyllenhaal
Taylor used gay rights as her new aesthetic in the Lover era and even made a ✨stunning and brave✨doc about her coming out as a Democrat and then acts all mad when people are surprised that she associated herself with a controversial guy? I don't care who she dates and I think it's embarassing how some of her fans wrote her a letter telling her to break up with him, that's an insanely unhealthy level of parasocial relationship. However, she doesn't get to be shocked if people are disappointed to see her date a guy like Matty Healy, it makes it seem like she just used gay people to promote her music. It's so dumb how her hardcore fans are acting like she "ate up all the haters" when the only person she embarassed is herself and exposed how she really only cares about social justice issues when it benefits her.
right, you said it better than anyone, it's not people worried about her being with a "difficult man" its how hypocritical she is, and how she has used movements almost as a way of being trendy
@@Flixtex you're really trying to make it seem like she did the riskiest move on her career, which no, the people who stopped liking her are not a big loss compared to how many new fans came, her popularity only multiplied after that, supporting gay rights is what everyone should do and no one should be put in a pedestal for finally doing it public.
Also can I just add that the inspirations from Lana del Rey are so on the nose? The opening line for the title track is , diction wise, the exact same for mariners apartment complex “You left my typewriter at my apartment, straight from the tortured poets department” “You took my sadness out of context, at the mariners apartment complex” Not to mention other blatant inspirations - almost perfect copying of Lana such as the mention of Chelsea hotel, “daddy” usage, the themes of the fatalist lover, the themes of melancholy and dispair and poetry. It feels like she’s trying to become a more commercially successful version of Lana del Rey. I’m not saying that Lana OWNS any of those styles but the similarities are uncanny
I remember trying to give Taylor a listen and whatever song I was listening to reminded me of Alanis Morissette, and I got distracted and started listening to Alanis 😂 then I learned Taylor invited Alanis as a surprise artist at one of her concerts. I know people are always inspiring each other, but it does seem like Taylor likes to try on their shoes, as well. She's just a little more lost in Lana's closet 😝
Was this album bad? No But was this album good, especially considering Taylor's other albums? Not at all, this feels like Midnights watered down, but it has some great gems
@@emmarosie7176 lol, she has some lines that come across as pretentious writing, and some are just too painful, I hate that she keeps going back to topics like her hometown or high school, it comes across as trying too hard to be relatable for the new audience, "who's gonna troll you"???? you might as well just go "how you do fellow kids".
don't agree, it's not favorite album of hers either, but it's certainly better than Midnights. At least this one has a story, Midnights was incredibly vague and the production was even more bland than on TTPD. That album did not deserve Album of the Year at all, she only won because of the Taylormania right now.
jack and taylor are both great artist but i feel they both hold eachother back. They have found what theyre comfortable with and stuck with it. Both of them have shown they can achieve newer sounds when they explore new producers/artist
(Saying this as a long-time massive fan) I feel like this album feels different because for the first time, her writing is aware of her god-like status. It feels incredibly parasocial, self-conscious, and yet cocky somehow. You said that it feels like she's trying to prove something, but to me it almost feels like she thought her pen was inevitably made of gold? I can only attribute the cringier lines to that kind of blindness, and I'm not saying this in a hateful way. I don't think the writing's bad; I think it's inconsistent and there's a reason why. You need to have a strong (and kind of misguided) sense of self-importance to think that lyrics such as “Tattooed Golden Retriever” are worth even jotting down. It's just interesting as a psychological phenomenon because she's always written from the perspective of trying to prove her writing to the critics, but now she clearly knows that the industry is wrapped around her finger. I understand that her writing style will continue to change for as long as she lives, I just need her new influences to settle and mix to match with her style. I won't be talking about the production bc I know we must all agree
Lmao "tattooed golden retriever" took me tf out while listening like what does that mean, Taylor? I get "tattoo kiss", but "tattooed golden retriever"? 😂
“She thought her pen was inevitably made of gold” 🎯 You worded it so perfectly! The fame got on her head and her ego is inflated, that’s why she calls herself a poet. It’s laughable.
she is a narcissist . The shameful behaviour and self promotion at the grammys , the drab arse tour , sorry eras and basically an album(s) that wasn't needed . She only did it because Grande,Eilish and Dua Lipa may steal some of her glory . It has backfired big time .
I grew up with Taylor's music and was a fan since 2008. But she's 34 now and still writes songs the exact same way as she did when she was 17. Compare her to other artists like Adele, who is literally just a year older than her but writes songs that are mature and appropriate for an adult in her 30s. At this rate, I can totally see Taylor writing the same kind of songs from her dairy at 50. It's kind of cringe.
yes because our song & mine are written exactly the same was as tolerate it, coney island, happiness, the great war, labyrinth, so long london, my tears ricochet... maybe you only heard the hit songs? idk
She is obviously not. And as a swiftie i agree with some of the constructive criticism on social media. But the thing with Taylor hate is that the haters take it over the top calling her talentless or asking her to die or whatever. There are only a very small proportion of haters actually being sensible
I think she's cultivated a narrative that it's sexist to critique her, that she's some underdog fighting the man who is victimized in every situation. While I'll admit she's targeted for sexism and has been in the past (including internalized misogyny), a lot of the recent criticisms are valid. She's a woman, yes, but aside from that she's an enormously privileged person who was literally born the daughter of two billionaires. And she hasn't been wielding her privilege well or been really honest about it. She also has fans who leap to defend her at every chance.
@@kukumehta8773Nah I think it's that anytime someone says a legitimate criticism, they seem to get hounded, both by swifties and the media. I'm not talking about all swifties, like fans who are rational, and people who just love her music, which is fine. I just hate this whole narrative that any criticism is seen as a personal slight against her and misogynistic. Then that makes people angry and then they come out with actual hatred and stuff that makes their legitimate criticism look like petty hate, and people focus on that rather than the actual proper criticism. You can criticise someone without being hateful, but so many times I've seen legitimate criticism just being labeled as 'hate'. It's infuriating as no one should be above criticism.
@@kukumehta8773 I'm not denying haters being annoying, I agree with you on that. I'm talking about people who aren't haters getting grouped in with them because they have genuine criticism. And again, I'm not talking about most swifties.
@@kavya71954and just cause you think it's good doesn't make it good either but oh well😂 I personally like Taylor but I am realistic enough, to admit when something is not her best.
@@LunarValleyInMyMindby her standards this is her best objectively lmao It's her most confessional album with no filter yet This is literally the objectively true
I couldn't agree more. Like this album doesn't even compare to folklore, evermore, 1989 nor reputation. Even midnights is far better than TTPD, I only loved one song which is "Guilty as sin?". As a swiftie, I'm tired of those other swifties being delusional and saying that this is her best work, like what? Jack Antonoff is holding her back with his repetitive ass production, like she's like a billionaire now it doesn't hurt to get new producer. It's not like she's going to betray her best friend Jack, like c'mon now.
Welp, knowing that she’s crying about missing her racist ex boyfriend makes that album even less interesting. Knowing that he was watching videos of BW being violated wasn’t a turn off for her.
And the lack of remorse over it. She calls her critics "judgemental creeps" and acts like she was the victim in that situation. Another opportunity to learn, check her privilege, and improve that got squandered.
The idea of her creating a song about his depression leaves me conflicted. Living with someone who has endured mental illness, I get that it's a tough journey. My own experiences with my mother have left their mark on me. I recognize that for an artist, music is a form of expression, a necessary release. Yet, there's something about it that just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm not suggesting she intentionally portrayed him as a villain, but it somewhat comes across that way. Simply because he didn't want to marry her due to his mental illness, her fans have become overly aggressive. They launch attacks, and I do not support that behavior.
She has a song in which she says "There's no such thing as bad thoughts, only your actions talk" it doesn't matter if it was her intention to portray him some way or another, her fans are being horrible with him, and now the narrative is "he stole her youth by locking her on a cage and not letting her shine", now I listen to renegade and feel bad for him, she doesn't care how it can affect other people and how disgusting it is to let anyone know you have depression
Yes, it's unfortunate. Were people aware of his mental health issues? I'm not very familiar with him either. I don't follow Taylor's relationships closely; if she references them in a song, I appreciate it for the music, not the relationship woes.
As a fellow MI sufferer, I agree ... you don't get to disclose or write about someone else's struggles unless they gave you consent. If someone "outed" me when I wasn't ready to disclose it, it could be traumatizing and violating. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, too.
@@diamondleo5136 I'm honestly not completely sure, the fans had the idea of him as a sad hunted man, taylor alleged songs about him talk about his heart being blue, or his anxiety. I dont think he speaks about anything related to his private life, not sure tho, hes just a private guy so probably the idea of him that people have come from what Taylor said on her songs. Good for him tho, hes taking himself from the narrative and hasn't said anything
it’s just inauthentic. like with the album title name and the tracklist of and lyricism, she’s trying very hard to be lana del rey or phoebe bridgers. i can understand that it’s inspiration, but at what cost? an artist makes songs that are overtly influenced by their inspiration, and that’s fine, but the main thing is, is the song/album good though? can you be more cohesive ? if not, then i’ll just dismiss it as a wannabe 🤷🏾♀️ also this album is the definition of victim complex, narcissism and selfishness. a swiftlyneutral reddit post about it said it the best, i can’t cause it’s too long lol
@GhostOfEvermore She's still clearly inspired by their sound. Taylor's earlier music sounds a lot different than Lana, but her later music sounds a lot like Lana's, people can be inspired by people who can out after them.
Jack tries so hard to make her lana 2.0, I also didn't understood what the "I was a functioning alcoholic til nobody noticed my new aesthetic" line meant, the toxic swifties called me stupid and never explained it to me
@@victorfematt7191 lmao only a tr@shy human being will try to invalidate someone else’s struggles and emotions. Lyrics around alcohol in Taylor Swift songs have been present since 1989 and rapidly increased since reputation. I can say the same about lana de rey, that all she does is for attention and to please the little audience she has made since her breakout image is solidified but i wont because i dont know her and I’ve no means to justify what im claiming. Only a hater would do such things 💜
I dont think she cares enough, she mentions Kim's daughter on one of her songs. I like that Joe isn't a part of the narrative anymore, everyone talks about her giving him her youth, but she wasn't the only one who wasted a part of her life, and its worse when the other person referred as the time you both had together as being on prison, and also exposing how you had depression and that is stopping you from giving your everything to a relationship.
She's victim in EVERY situation. I try to support women, but man. She tried to sue a man who tweeted about her jet emissions, claiming she was trying to "dominate, control and stalk" her. She believes she's the target of "judgemental creeps" when called out for dating a man who gave the N*zi salute onstage and touched women at his concerts inappropriately. This is what happens when you are rich your entire life (even childhood) and never really have to take accountability for your actions.
@@Melisa-g1j bringing a child into the beef you have with parents is disturbed. doesn’t matter if it was “not in a bad way”, it goes without being said that you should always leave children out of it.
@@Melisa-g1j bringing someone's child into her revenge fantasy is gross and so low, completely unnecessary, even I know that's not the way to go. Dont excuse her
@@C12341 I agree with most of what you said. I think she probably gets amused by those things, thinking about the people who hurt her not being able to escape her, listening her voice at every place they go, her face being on every billboard
The fact that she could've easily changed the 1800's lyrics to maybe a Bridgerton reference with all the dresses and ballgowns and romance but she chose to word the actual lyrics in such an awkward way and everyone heard this line and thought it was fine to release💀
"I want to live in the 1830's without the racists" but she hangs out with Matty Healy and Lena Dunham. Also doesn't condemn the racist abuse her fans send to black women. Does that include the racists in her inner circle and fanbase? 💀💀
But that is exactly the interpretation of the music theres so many media like books and movies aimed at nostalgia and aimed at that period of time but ignoring the problems with it and taylor points that out
@@sthefanysevero9077in a clunky way. She could’ve referenced imagery of that period (ballgowns, debutants, etc) and then pointed out the flaws but to any non-white women the second you just straight up say “1830s”, we immediately think slavery and colonialism, so defeats the whole point since nobody but white women in the west are nostalgic for the “1830s”. That’s why people are criticizing it. Yeah nostalgia makes you overlook the bad, but WHO other than taylor is nostalgic for the 1830s.
Taylor in that song goes on to say she would not want to live in the 1830's because being nostalgic is not thinking of all the negative things about that period. You need to read the first two lines in context to the rest of that paragraph.
this album seems like it is meant only to appeal to ardent swifties, people who know all the "lore" about her life and fawn and obsess over it. I don't see how anyone outside her cult would enjoy these songs because they simply don't appeal outside from her spilling specific "tea" about her life in the lyrics. her songwriting is incredibly rote on midnights and TTPD, it seems like she is on auto-pilot, which is disappointing as a casual listener who really came to respect her songwriting with folklore-evermore. it's nice for her fans that she keeps feeding them, but I think she needs to take some time to really craft some new ideas for her music. I don't expect her to really get experimental or try something new because that's never been the kind of artist she is. but I just get frustrated when her fans try to argue she is the best artist/songwriter working right now, when she simply is not
I don't fully agree. I don't care about the lore and I still enjoy a lot of the songs on the album. I think the problem is, it's just too many songs and many sound similar and bland at first. It takes time to like this album. If you like Folklore and Evermore (which are my favourites too), I think you will find a lot to like in this album, both in the standard edition and the Anthology part (which sounds a lot like Evermore). There are some real gems on this album. That being said, there are some bad songs too, and I understand not everyone wants to spend their time re-listening such a long album. It is indeed more for "Swifties" than casual fans.
@@sigyn27 so true!!! Listened to every single song at release. Only streamed a few of them for the following weeks. It def takes time for a lot of the songs to click on u, when a lot of them sound very similar to each other 😭 Even midnights' songs had at least a bit of sonic distinction from each other. In short, ttpd is a big grower, but it also has its fair share of bops
And the thing is, almost everything she's ever done has been cowritten. That's not to say she doesn't write anything or has no ability, but a lot of the songwriting is owed to cowriters. I suspect the National did a lot of the heavy lifting lyrically on folklore/evermore because of how similar it is to their own music.
I feel like the anthology should have been reviewed rather than just TTPD. TTPD songs weren't the best imo (i'm a long time swiftie) there were more folklore type songs in the anthology album. I literally wish she just released the extended songs. Chloe or sam or sophia or marcus was a beautiful song, and i look in people's windows was a good short song
I stopped being her fan when i came to the realisation that in every relationship, she's the one who is wronged. 😅 I'm now old enough to not fall that shit
I just cannot listen to an album riddled with matty healy references because every time, that clip of him laughing about j*cking off to “gh*tto gaggers” and his ex’s disgusted reaction to a “black woman being absolutely brutalized” (his words) will come back to haunt me every time… as does the shocked and confused realization that she literally kept dating him for MONTHS after that interview first circulated. That was so much more disturbing to me than the ice spice comments and I was equally disturbed that featuring ice spice was all it took for the world to just pretend that part of the interview never happened.
And yet she calls the people who condemned him "judgemental creeps". Healy also has harassed women on camera, inappropriately touched women at his concerts, done the N*zi salute onstage, posted lists of deceased holocaust victims on his Insta, used the death of George Floyd to promote an album, and much more. "Creep" doesn't begin to describe him. The amount of people defending him is pure white privilege and apathy to bigotry/abuse.
Thank you for writing out the full phrases he said/context. Seriously terrifying stuff how the world seemed to get over it because swift had one black woman as a feat
This is so strange, because she has always been popular in Europe, but I never thought that I would hear about her EVERYWHERE. Literally, I can't break free. Everything I know about her and her music is against my will. I wonder if people who say that her albums are "masterpieces" really think so, or has the level of good pop music dropped that much? I have nothing against her fans, let everyone listen to what they want, but it annoys me that she is everywhere and people react strangely to the fact that I don't listen to her. I get second-hand embarrassment when I see her lyrics.
exactly, and i would understand if it were somebody with really good vocals or unique production or another huge selling point, but all her melodies are so flat. it’s odd lol
@@Flixtex yes the songs are jam packed with ‘sophisticated’ words, but that doesn’t mean the melodies should be so monotonous lol. she’s proven she can do engaging ballads so many times before with literally every album prior to this
Taylor Swift is one of those musicians that are more popular as a public figure and person than for people liking her music. As most mainstream artists are these days. (Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Shawn Mendes, etc…) Out of those I mentioned I will admit Taylor at least has some good albums. The only one I would consider a masterpiece is Folklore, with Red and Evermore coming close. The rest have some gems but are a bit messy to be perfect.
The conflict between production, melody, and wordiness is really interesting to me because it reminds me of Bob Dylan, who's her polar opposite in terms of culture and counterculture. Taylor's writing is beginning to be mythicized just the same, tho. You don't necessarily hear people critiquing the lack of musicality in Dylan's later records-they just say it's not for everyone and that it's the lyrics that matter. For Taylor, though, I wonder how she'll reconcile that with her mainstream-pop-artist status. I feel like her writing will eventually be studied widely in academia (in fact we've seen that happen in recent years) just like Dylan's, and as such, she will be judged in harsher, more rigorous ways. As in, nobody denies Dylan's writing skills, but critics, scholars, and fans do agree that there are bad Dylan albums. I believe that's what's in store for Taylor; eventually her pop-titan status will be traded for a quieter, more objective devotion from a more niche audience. Just like purists and Dylanists, only old Swifties and new Swiftists will stay. It really is fascinating to witness her transition from a celebrity to a myth real-time.
She'll be mostly forgotten by the end of the decade. Take the Bee Gees - kings of the second half of 1970s and then couldn't even get a hit in the USA. That's what's in store for her. This level of overexposure will backfire in a major way. "Studied widely in academia"? Lol, that's a sure sign there's not much academia left.
@@ВладимирКруглов-к9о i do not like her at all but she has many blind loyal basic girl fans who were with her since the beginning and support each album release. In fact if she releases an album with just her fart sounds, they will still buy and rave about it. She got so big this time bec it is a culmination of her substantial die hard fans plus new fans who are in it bec she is just pushed extensively. Like in anything, nothing lasts forever and things will settle. Im pretty sure she will still sell well in the future but i do hope no round 2 of this super fame bec she is at the end of the day really mediocre, basic, average, ho hum.
@@stanbalo No, "Touch me while your bros play grand theft auto". 😂 But I will say that Dylan is a true poet who wrote his own lyrics. Taylor is a corporate brand heavily shaped by cowriters.
i dont doubt that taylor is talented and knows how to play the game, but she's not that creative and should take a break from releasing music. 31 tracks and none of them stand out. like, she's in such a sweet spot in her career, which is so rare to get when you're in your mid 30's. anything she does will do well, so she might as well experiment and try to be more original and creative, but she's still doing generic shit with pretentious lyrics. folklore was what made me really interested in her work, but everything after that sounds bad (except the rerecordings). we all love a breakup song, but god, give it a rest.
I couldn't agree more. Like this album doesn't even compare to folklore, evermore, 1989 nor reputation. Even midnights is far better than TTPD, I only loved one song which is "Guilty as sin?". As a swiftie, I'm tired of those other swifties being delusional and saying that this is her best work, like what? Jack Antonoff is holding her back with his repetitive ass production, like she's like a billionaire now it doesn't hurt to get new producer. It's not like she's going to betray her best friend Jack, like c'mon now.
@@Rendezvousssssss its honesty refreshing to see at least some of her fans being reasonable. imo she should explore other genres of music and other themes to sing about. not even the rerecordings are *that* good, because the 1989 tv was really bad, she sounds like a robot, the overproduction is awful, and i was personally most excited about this one.
31 tracks is too many but I don't agree that none of them stand out. There are some real gems on TTPD. Also, this album is a bit like Evermore for me, the more I listen to it, the more I like it (with some exceptions, some songs are just not so good).
@@ivyfuss3350 lmaooo it’s giving joko siwa “I’m the first in my generation to do this” like…girl she’s changed from “country” to pop..that’s two genre changes 😂 even Call of Duty has switched the game up two times 😂
@@Thenewboidahlia i’m not a taylor stan so don’t come for me but to be fair she definitely has changed genres a fair few times. folklore and evermore don’t fall in the synth-pop or country category. they’re mostly alternative folk
@GhostOfEvermore shut up swiftie. And no it’s not just the context of it. The way she says it is childish af and cringe. If someone like Olivia or Sabrina who are still fairly young titled “I can fix him, no I really can” I would have understood. Not this grown as woman 😂
Maybe the swifties need to realize that people put on these sorts of pedestals also get more scrutiny than just anyone else. You cannot have it both ways, and also - labeling all of the push back against the album as toxic and of the like is disgusting (at best). But whatever, fanboyism is the same no matter where you find it, and you can find it almost anywhere in high supply.
It’s so sad that we can no longer just critique music. Musicians used to have a hunger to improve and reflect on feedback and now they can slap the hater label on any slight critique or even neutral opinion
I'm an Iranian fashion designer and one of my designs was worn by her but another brand got credit. I was a fan when I was younger and honestly it hurts a little... I'm used to not being noticed for my work because of where I'm from, but seeing it from someone who talks about standing up for young artists and women, it hurt🫠
"Everything is starting to feel disenchanted, conveyor belt oriented in a remix of the same formula. " " Some songs should stay in a vault, the album almost just feels like a straight-to-the-point diary entry." This is on point! It is not a terrible album, It's just juvenile.
I felt horrible about how obvious it was that she was trying to sound edgy like Lana Del Rey who gets none of the awards, none of the credit, and is more talented
Taylor's new albums are just not for me I feel like ever since midnights she has been releasing mid music and I feel like she is aware that her large fan base will buy and stream it anyway 💀😭
In the beginning of her Eras tour, I destroyed my search history because I was looking up Taylor trying to find answers on why she's as popular as she is. One swiftie Redditer wrote how Taylor spoke about how she left her time was coming to a close, and then COVID happened. It gave time for people to get reintroduced to her and she wrote songs with less stress on herself. That post combined with what you said, I'm thinking she's trying to ride the wave as long as she possibly can.
@@phineassss4901so so many other artists! I just feel like her fan base isn’t as diverse compared to maybe Michael Jackson listeners or even SZA/Frank Ocean listeners or smth. Go to any of her shows and you will find one common denominator
@@psychedelicyeti6053 Well, for one i think that folklore is actually a great album - so it's not like her music is trash. And if you look at her biggest hits of the 2010s, you'll notice that most of them were cowritten by Max Martin. He is easily the most successful modern songwriter with 26 Billboard 100 number ones. The only person who has more than him is Paul McCartney. As for her recent success, i think it's the combination of a few things, but the quality of her music isn't one of them. The Eras tour, combined with her rereleasing her albums has given her a massive marketing boost. And most of her music is about her life, which leads to her fans dissecting everything to find out what song is about whom. She has managed to create this parasocial relationship with her fans, which artificially boosts her numbers - they're in it for gossip basically.
@@psychedelicyeti6053 A lot of the reason why she's so popular is that she was born into wealth and privilege. She is the daughter of two billionaires. Her father had connections and wealth, and effectively bought her way into one of the biggest record labels by buying up major stock. The big record labels decide what becomes popular, not necessarily who is best. It's like North West in the Hollywood Bowl Lion King performance. She was mediocre but she had rich parents.
I feel like her team is trying to make her surpass Beyonce and they will always fail and the reason for that is because Beyonce actually takes her time to do her albums whereas Taylor drops an album every year working with the same producer and writer and after all you are right it’s becoming like Marvel in the beginning the movies were great then over time loses its luster.. it’s like wash rinse repeat
I'm sorry, but isn't she already bigger than Beyonce? Like, I really hated most of TTPD even as a swiftie, and I also recognize that Taylor's vocals are far worse than Bey's, but popularity-wise she surpassed Beyonce a few years ago, it's just numbers, and numbers don't necesarily mean quality, which I would argue is the case for TTPD: most overhyped album of the decade breaking streaming records left and right because Tay's fans are just batshit crazy over her.
@@LuxminosityBoy Beyoncé is the celebrity of all celebrities. Celebrities have been watching Beyoncé perform live and tear the roof out of the Oscars and Grammys and VMAs for 20 years they know her quality better than anyone these same celebrities have not been admiring Taylor Swift the same way. Taylor swift wants to be respected by her peers the same way Beyoncé is respected and it will just never happen the same, no matter how delusionally the swifties call her the next Michael Jackson. Beyoncé is a STAR rated vocalist that has been asked to perform in front of presidents, kings, foreign heads of state, and by musical legends like Diana Ross, Prince, Michael Jackson, the list goes on…
The thing about every Taylor Swift album is that my first impression is never my lasting opinion. She has so many albums that I didn’t love that much at first, and now I really enjoy them.
I started feeling that TTPD wasn't such a good album, but now I haven't stopped listening to it, I understood the songs better and I liked it, it's in my top three, so, yes, people start with an opinion and then it changes. I just feel like some songs can be a little bit controversial like thank you aimee, like, why go back to this issue of the fight between them, but at the same time, she didn't mention anything about Kanye, that is, maybe she realized that he is not well mentally or that he did it for attention, but she will never forget what Kim did because she had no reason to hate her, I evaluate this song that way. Lastly I just wanted to say that this album was exactly what she wanted with fame, she grew up too much to be able to release a work simply for herself and not for the media, so I say that this album is like a diary because that's right, a collection of songs that were not made with the intention of making a profit or telling a story but rather a kind of mental escapism where she can reveal how she is and how she wants to be
yeah but music isn't supposed to wait until 7 or 8 tries to sound good. if it GROWS on you, it's literally your brain deciding "oh nvm this one ain't gonna stop listening, so i might as well drown my musical tastes". also your brain just sorta gets used to the melodies & lyrics at one point, so it's like oh yeah, i must like it if i know what this is and have visited it before
@@regulusthestar Maybe that is your experience. But for me, a lot of it has to do with the right time or right place. People like art that they relate to. Which is why a lot of people listen to sad music when they’re going through a breakup. Or when my mom does, I instantly gravitated to her song Never Grow Up. It has nothing to do with how many times I forced my self to listen to it. It’s the fact that the song was there at a time that I needed it. You also just miss a lot of lyrics when you first hear a song, and sometimes one lyric will catch your attention that you never heard before. Art is a lot more complex than the credit you give it.
I just don't understand the hype surrounding her. She's a good singer.. she's pretty.. she writes her own music but I just don't find her to be ground breaking. I would say maybe it's because I'm older now but there are plenty of swifties my age. I just don't find her music relatable or interesting. It all seems so repetitive. A love song, a song about heart break, a song about change.. idk.
I agree. Her songs are ok, good for radio plays, but not special or necessarily leave a long lasting feeling. Also with how much she releases new songs none of them have a long lasting moment as there is always new music being pumped out to replace previous tracks
@@Lion08888 I've only picked one song apart. Fortnite is not about a love affair clara bow, mental illness or her boyfriends. "I was supposed to be sent away But they forgot to come and get me" That line is about how she should have been a flash in the pan, a fad and carted away and forgotten because she isn't very talented, and it's her worst fear being exposed for a fraud. When Kanye took her mic away, her initial reaction was she thought e/o at the AMAs booing and yelling were yelling at HER. She wanted the ground to open up and swallow her and disappear Someone had to tell her that the mob hadn't turned on her and she wasn't in some kind of existential danger. She;s still insecure and has nightmares about getting the ball and running the wrong way with it in front of a 200,000,000 people, and disappointing everyone...again Real Sh!t Listen to that one a few times and tell me it's just banal teen rubbish, It's a masterclass in songcrafting. The video is great work as well.
@@Lion08888 "I love you it's ruining my life" I think that's the pressure she feels to give, do and deliver more to her fans and supporters. She's in a tough position. If she wants to gun for the GOAT and break an entertainment industry record or set a milestone, she has to find them in the mirror, her own past success is her nemesis. Micheal Jordan. Paul McCartney, Oprah and Eminem are the handful of people who would get that, her fans certainly don't. (she's only 34, not even hitting her prime years to produce)
I don't understand understand the hype for Eminem either, or Drake... oh maybe they weren't my type of music? maybe they're not my preferred artist and sound? Idk tho
i wouldn’t go as far as calling the album bad, but it definitely was not good. especially by taylor’s standards . it was bland, and the production was repetitive. it also did not take any risks at all, which i can at least give midnights credit for doing. the reviews that ttpd have been fairly accurate and i’m glad that people are finally starting to take off the rose colored lenses for taylor with this album.
So her song Florida is not her taking risks? Who's afraid of little old me is not taking risks? Have you heard any of her songs that sound like these two? Like y'all will just be saying anything I can fix him doesn't fit with any of her previous albums... So how didn't she take risks?
@@danielpeters2501I can name multiple songs that sound just like the ones you just named the album took zero risks and lyrically it was not good like what is a tattooed golden retriever you keep lying to yourself because your biased when it comes to her she could write the worst song in human history and you would still try and convince people it’s good
@@HaileyJackson10 you cannot name any song in Taylor's whole discography that sounds like Florida or who's afraid of little old me you'll just be lying to yourself lmao This album is lyrically her best album lol Ain't no one's problem that you can't comprehend it You take one line out of an entire song and say it's bad without the context especially when the point of the song itself was to prove that she wasn't a poet... Lmao The line was literally a conversation hey had irl so you can't say it's bad cos it literally fits into the narrative of the song It is YOUR fault that you don't understand the album... Don't come online with your ignorance to act like you know what you're talking about... You'll just be embarrassing yourself 😂
@@HaileyJackson10 you're talking about zero risks yet this is Taylor's most experimental album... Lmao The album literally has ballads, poppy songs, rnb influences, country influences, western influence(which she's never done before e.g I can fix him and fresh out the slammer), theater sound like Who's afraid of little old me, gospel-like in guilty as sin, soft pop rock in florida.... I can go one but you want to pretend like you know what you're talking about because ''its cool to not like Taylor swift"... Lmao... Pls get over yourself... If you didn't like it that's fine but don't come here and say the album is automatically BAD because YOU don't get the intellectual literature of an album with "poets" in it's title lol
She's literally a billionaire trying to be relatable so bad. I don't know why people give so much attention to this serial dater. She's the most surface level "deep person" I've ever heard. She's like the girl in middleschool who pretends to be emo just to fit in to the "depressed and misunderstood" crowd
Exactly. Really basic girl who does not have an identity so to have one, mimics others. She is relatable bec many girls are like that..basic. Basic for basic
Damn I wish you hadn't pulled out the misogyny because "She's literally a billionaire trying to be relatable so bad." is exactly it. No need to use misogyny to attack her when she is literally a billionaire
@magnoliaskogen please explain how my comments were misogynistic. In what way am I expressing hate or prejudice against woman by stating I think Taylor is a poser who acts fake deep like the wannabe emos in middleschool. I only used "she" and "girl" because thats how she identifies
@magnoliaskogen please explain to me how I was being misogynistic. In what way were my comments expressing hatred or prejudice towards women? By stating Taylor acts like a wannabe emo girl from middleschool? Was it saying she's a serial dater? Because I never said she was the only one at fault or men couldn't be serial daters as well. I only used "girl" and "her" because that's how she identifies. There's no ethical way to be a billionaire, so yeah she is a billionare trying to be relatable. Was I supposed to make a disclaimer that I wasn't talking about every woman.
I was actually going to listen the day it dropped (around late afternoon while I was cleaning), but I saw it was a DOUBLE album with over 30 songs... That just mentally drained me and I opted to wait until later to listen. I still haven't yet haha It's wild because aside from the Kim K diss and the 1830s lyric; I haven't heard many people talking about the album 😬
Every year she gets older and continues to make more teeny bopper heart break music, rinse, repeat and power hungry is every year she becomes more cringe
I just don't buy her act anymore. Some artists really milk depression and mental illness, when really they just want the attention. She's always the unlucky one in love, but looks so happy when the cameras are out, hugging on an NFL player. 🙄🙄 some folks are just addicted to being relevant...
This is such a stupid statement to make. Did you see her talk about her depressive state everywhere in her interviews? No. She went through a very dark place in 2016 with the whole world going against her on something that was orchestrated to ruin her career. Her image is still suffering as the result & those people responsible had never even apologized. Just because you don't like her it does not mean everything about her has to be something negative. And why would she not look happy in front of the cameras when she's in the public? Should she cry instead? Lmao i swear many of y'all anti-fans can be so dense in the head it's insane.
@@mohamadfirdausbinmat2577 How is her image still suffering from the Kimye drama? She's the most famous artist on the planet and the only thing that is preventing that drama from fading away is Taylor herself, as well as her fans who never bury hatchets. It just feels hella petty from her to mention Kim on TTPD after 8 years of the drama.
Power hungry She’s becoming bigger than her actual talent Celebrities don’t look up to her She’s no musical legend like Aretha Franklin, Barbara Streisand, Tina Turner, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, Beyoncé. She just isn’t. She’s not respected by her peers in the same way She hasn’t been asked to perform in front of world dignitaries
@@LuxminosityBoy 1. you don't get to tell someone (who was wronged) when they have to move on from something that impacted them deeply. people can take as much time as they need to process things. 2. the song isn't even being petty about the drama, it actually thanks the bully for the growing pains and helping her get to the point where she is now?
The problem is there is no payoff for the suffering. She's churning and retreading the same old stuff, although each time it's another boy. Art is about movement. She's stagnant.
I don’t know why I struggle to take her seriously. She’s talented but something about her seems inauthentic and cringe. It’s as if she’s trying to be down with the excessive usage of similes and edgy with the cursing in a Jojo Siwa kinda way.
lmao true. I think it's because she tries to come off as relatable and this is what her fans love about her. they think 'oh she is just like me, so awkward and relatable' and taylor really capitalised on this. her fans love her for exactly the reasons that we criticize her for: her being basic and bland
@@vp4744 yes! I think that's what it is for me with her and Drake. I never understood their mass appeal, even from early on. At least not beyond a certain age. I can understand how teens like both of them and maybe folks in their mid-20s but beyond that I don't know what to tell ya lol.
Agreed. Being a swiftie, I narratively was interested in what she had to share with us! However, out of the 31 songs, i only like 15 songs and only love 7 songs from start to finish!
As a Swiftie, I'll say that this album was a huge disappointment. I mean, it's not bad but she tried to sell it as her best work ever, the title is way too much for what the lyrics are saying, and no, I don't think they "don't make any sense", cause they do, and they are universal as usual, making it easily relatable to a lot of people, but even with that, the poetry is not that great in here, I think Midnights had better lyrics, Maroon, The Great War and Snow On The Beach easily beat mostbof the lyrics in Poets. About the production, this was the first time an album from her made me go "again?", it's like Midnights but soulless, with only a few exceptions like The Alchemy, Florida!!!, The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived or Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me. I think that the second part of the album is more poetic, but evermore and folklore would win a fight against it. I've been trying to like it more, but I don't think I'll love it that much in the future.
My biggest ick about this album is it feels like she's trying to prove that she's a Poet. Deep english lyrics stitched together to sound "deep" are my problems Overall I still love the album. It's not for everyone, much like Folklore on release
Can we please acknowledge that her only decent song on the album (Fortnight) is only half way decent because we’ve all heard it before - she’s ripped off Cigarettes After Sex - K. Such lazy song writing and musical production behind this album - not worthy of one Grammy nomination
she’s getting every single grammy known to man though. it’s a generic, shitty, taylor swift album, just like midnights, just like lover, just like reputation, and every other project that won something. it’s getting viewed as a generational work of art by the industry, even though the album sucks ass.
Well the bonus songs are completely different to the songs on the main album. They are prettt much two separate albums, she should have just released them as such. There are more folklore style songs on the extended album.
Glad to see someone else didn't enjoy it as much as some of her other work. See, this is me coming off as a normal fan not a diehard Swiftie. If I like something, I'll give it props. However, if someone doesn't live up to the hype or isn't her best work; I'll let ya know! Despite being 30+ songs...I didn't enjoy enough of this double album to justify the 2 hrs spent listening to it. I mean could this be Swift fatigue in the same vain as superhero fatigue from Marvel? Could be, but I don't think that's it. There's been a massive over saturation of Swift over the past couple of years. For good reason I suppose and this isn't me hating on her success. It just seems that a lot of music is coming out from her and quickly. Of course, most of her releases are re-recordings of her original albums. So, when she finally puts out some new work you'd think it would be great! Midnights and Lover were shorter albums, but there were more songs from them that I loved compared to The Tortured Poets Department. Considering I never really followed any of the media around her relationship with that one guy that was bringing her bad press; all of those songs about that didn't matter to me at all.
My sister became a fan of Taylor Swift when Love Story came out, and when You Belong With Me came out, I decided to listen to Fearless and found that it was a solid album, as were Speak Now, Red, and 1989 when they came out. Reputation left a bad taste in both my and my sister’s mouths, Taylor had clearly become a sour person and let the album be a bunch of sour grapes, a friend of mine who worked at Walmart at the time told me that the album was having trouble selling at his store, that they were overstocked. Lover didn’t hit the same after Reputation had left such a stain. Listening to evermore and folklore felt like a Renaissance for her, but Midnights and this current album just feel disillusioned. Hopefully, newer artists like Olivia Rodrigo can learn from Taylor’s mistakes.
My sister and I listened to the whole album once it came out and both thought that all the songs sounded pretty much the same so we weren't too excited. But since then I've been listening to some songs again individualy when they came up in my yt recommendations and I came to really like them.
I had the same experience on my first listen, there’s just too many songs that all sound too similar. But to be honest I haven’t listened to many of the songs after the initial listen bc it’s just way too much
As someone who likes her music, I 100% agree. This album was so disappointing and I honestly couldn't tell some of the songs apart from others. I just want the rest of the re-recordings
She cares, but it’s hard when you are in a position like she is to put out something that everyone would like … impossible really, she has a good work ethic. One break would be benefitial for her ❤
in my opinion, while writing folklore, she didn’t expect the enormous influence it would have on her career and she was focused more on the arts not the charts with it. later, when she landed back on top bigger than ever, she’s doing absolutely everything she can to stay there
I personally think that Midnights and TTPD should have been a single album. Both albums feel similar in their writing and production style but there are many songs which could have been left out, keeping a perfect balance of her transition to softer synth-pop songs and the folkmore-like songwriting in the tracklist. This way, the rerecordings could have gotten their time to shine more and the quality of the new studio album would not have suffered.
Me personally I love the album BUT I understand not liking it and it definitely should not get album of the year. Also, it’s another album for the fans/people who know the lore about her.
@@PeterGriffin11thank God someone is using their head Ain't my problem if she won it last year She should win it this year Cos so far her album is the best released album Literally everyone is talking about it whether good or bad lol... That's how you know the art is interesting
i agree, i wish beyonce or ariana win this year because they deserve, they made incredible projects and taylor did a project most for herself i think, as a swiftie, if she wins I'll be disappointed
I’m so sick of the overused word lore Everything is a lore with Taylor swift fans Everything is deep lore mystic mystery fantasy secrecy They’re in on the genius and no one else is
Haven't paid much attention nor thought to Taylor's lyrics until recently. I can see how she takes universal themes and makes them particular to her: look what happened to me. At the other end of the extreme, someone like Billie Eilish, for example, takes her particular experiences and makes them universal. With Taylor you need to be invested in her personal drama.
Guys do write songs about their sweethearts and give their bands names that are metaphors for a penis. The difference is that fans of male artists generally don't want to know the details of their personal lives and relationships, I mean Bad Medicine came out in 1988 and I just found it was about a sex worker that Richie Sambora was dating. Never thought to ask or cared that much, it's a banger.
I am not a fan of her's because i think all of her music sounds the same. Especially this album it is not for me. We know what we are going to get her talking about her exes and her sounding like a teenager. I just can't. ANd if people say they are not a fan of her or her music we are "hating".
no there all differ parallels stories and ideas of her music if you pay attention to the lyrics instead of the production sometimes and the production stays in the album aesthetic they are differ
I said this in a forum: I listened tree albums from The National (as their names have crossed paths in past years). It sounded the same to me, repetitive and monotonous. I didn't understand it and didn't dive deep in. But their fans like it. And it's fine if Taylor wants to stay in certain type of sound. The thing is that, unlike The National, Taylor it's promoting the albums like a big next thing, like a big disrupt from past works, like a new experience. When it's not. And their fans complain about Taylor pointed out "female singers are always forced to change to stay relevant". And that's the truth, for all pop singers. They need to evolve, or change at least if they want to stay at the top. Madonna didn't get to be "The Queen of pop" sitting in her comfort chair. So Taylor needs to learn that renovate it's not bad, and she has to do it if she wants to keep competing in the game and receive positive feedback. Or do like The Nationals, became a small singer, releasing music for her and fans and let go from the top.
When constructive criticism is misread as insults, there’s no room for growth. That’s the issue with Swift, Drake, and a half dozen acclaimed artists who aren’t challenged (or challenging themselves) at all.
Fr, and that’s sucks cuz constructive criticism can help you grow as an artist like Dua Lipa
Look what happened to Dua. She was mocked and critiqued for her horrible dancing and lack of stage presence. She went, trained, and now she’s becoming a pop icon (imo). Like I actually respect her a lot as an artist. She saw that she had a lot to improve and she said “I’ll prove them all that I can do it” and she did. Do I think some ppl were unnecessarily mean? Yeah, but at the same time constantly bringing up that her skills were less than lacking, she and her label realized she needed to do something about it. So they did. Kudos to her for taking it all in stride. Now she’s taken the memes and made them iconic and worked them back into her favor.
yeah, Drake was challenging himself up to some point, but then stopped caring about his artistry
@@uraharasenpai8852 it wasn’t really constructive criticism, it was just bullying 😅lol
And probably she was gonna grow regardless because of experience not because she needs everybody to say what they did
This is why I like artists like Gaga. Say what you want about her, at least she tries to keep it different
Exposing her ex's depression like that to her RABID DOGS of a fanbase, knowing that they will attack him mercilessly, and not even trying to tell her fans to stop, IS DESPICABLE! He most likely despises her now and i wouldn't blame her. He trusted her with that and in her pettiness broke the trust
In the past I used to think it wasn't her fault her fans were always sending her exes hate, but now I think she purposely feeds into it
@@kefnykelly257
She's "dressing for revenge."
@@kefnykelly257 She totally does. It's subtle but she does a lot to encourage a parasocial relationship with her fans
Y’all are overreacting I don’t think that’s the situation at all, what her fanbase does is outside of her control. And SHE DID TELL HER DANS TO STOP ARE YOU SLOW????
She literally told her fans to stop not to long ago. Compared to her musical peers Taylor is the most civil
I don’t understand why Taylor doesn’t want to take a break. Girl go on vacation or something.
probably because she’s loves what she does it’s the only thing that keeps her going
She's doing her job..... it'll be great if you also did yours
@@abhinavupadhyay9389doing your job well also requires taking breaks. It’s clear she’s overexhausting herself.
@@naviyatTTPD sounds like a cry for help and a sign she should actually go to therapy instead of making mid albums.
@@greentea673 And you know that because you know her and text her everyday right?
“The Marvel of Pop Music” is such an amazingly accurate description.
Yeah
Love her down bad tho.
Album is trash
@@Papa-cg4tzAgreed
@@Flixtexthe world would be sm better if swifties could just accept criticism and not give death threats to people. U really think ur superior for liking her? True form of glazing and coping
Im a swiftie too (red and folklore are top albums) i went to watch the eras movie bought merch and im not afraid to admit that this album was awful as well.
Its not just “haters” casual listeners and the non delusional swifties see how bad this is. U just need to grow up
Finally some actual honest reviews... sick and tired of fellow Swifties and critics acting like this is her best work yet.
Agree. I've made a video showing some of the Swifties who admitted to disliking it
I like some songs and enjoyed a few others, I think the second part of the album sounds all the same, I dont remember most of it, also, I love Jack but they working together brings the worst in each other, it's time to work with new people
Fr Bleachers is one of my fav band and I like their latest album as well, it was good but this really is Taylor's weaskest album till date. @SnapeArgento
@@CK_Godoth bleachers music is so goooood, also Jack's work with lana is amazing, I know he and taylor are good friends but maybe she needs to go with new producers, at least for a while, Aaron has done some of her best work imo
i mean if others think this is her best work because they loved it so much, are we not allowed to have opinions and preference now?😭
I think she's scared to take risks, especially big ones. She doesn't want to fall from the massive fame she's at right now.
I think this album is her idea of taking risk ..
this album was literally massive risk
@@mercedesdrake9113why?
Also, she can’t take much risk
None of the 30 songs have a chorus
NOT ONE.
She barely moves an octave or two
Her lack of vocal range is her Achilles heel
This is why celebrities and vocal experts don’t like her nearly as much as random white girls in the south and mid west
When your fame is predicated on being an edge-free safe space for "good" white girls then even the risks you take--as so many Swifties are claiming with TTPD--will be predictably tame or even cringe.
I would’ve been hesitant to marry her if I were Joe too. She clearly wanted Ratty for years (she admitted in a song that past tracks on folklore/evermore were actually about him). Joe knew. He asked if they were just friends. Between depression and knowing that she’s pining for some other dude, why would he propose?
How could anyone ever want Matty Healy. Jesus. Just no.
@@WhatkindoffckryRemember that older guy Billie Eilish used to date after being a fan of him for years? That situation was creepy as well.
And she wrote a song talking about how she still misses Matty Healy and attacked everyone who called her out for dating a racist man In her song she literally said I’m sick of all this B and moaning like what you’re the one that dated a racist and now you’re mad at people for calling it out it seems very manipulative
@@HaileyJackson10 Maybe he's an alpha male or a kind, understanding and supportive guy, or makes her laugh and happy. There may be lots of good qualities in him.
@@ВладимирКруглов-к9о what are you talking about are you defending her applauding a racist man
When the Beatles got to a point where everything they did was praised and too big to fail, they started taking more risks and doing things that nobody would think to do and now the music from that point in their careers is remembered as their best. Taylor could’ve done absolutely anything and it would’ve sold, but unlike the Beatles, I doubt it will be remembered.
Firstly, I'm not a fan. Secondly, I finally listened to her music. I did enjoy some hated some. She would be at #357 or #358 on my rated list of "Singers I Enjoy Listening To" I've listened to AC/DC, Nirvana, Clearwater Creedence Revival, Sterophonics, Third Eye Blind, NSYNC, Jessica Simpson, Shania Twain, Blue October, Dolly Parton, Agnes Obel, Astrid S, amongst a few others. I feel like British, Danish and Canadian Singers are way, way better than Taylor and they should have as much spotlight as her. Yes, some of them are no longer working but it would be awesome to hear their music on the radio and at least mentioned twice. ✌️🎹🎹🎹
Almost forgot, NEEDTOBREATHE, Kodaline, Hozier, Cathedrals (Metal, Coventry, UK).
I am not a swifitie but I do think she does do some interesting stuff with her music. Its harder now because of the sheer amount of people making music, to be experimental in the same way the beetles were. I think the slight subtlties in how shes experimenting is notable when really listening. I do agree with you, I think the music shes putting out now (not the re-records) will not be as remembered because they sound so similar.
@strawberrycreme7181 Much like freelancing, fashion, music, etc There's a high saturation of repetitive everything, really. Everyone is copying each other, with a few exceptions in creative arts and/or groups. I won't lie here, I hate lying. Some of Taylor's music does have that Boost of identity and a message. It's different from most songs. But once she began making, creating more music over a short time. It is not boosting anything, it's flavourless, saturated salt & sparkles. And that's all. The flavourless songs will be forgotten and replaced over the years by new music, and even by the top 3 albums she created prior to 2024 (2038). Lol! She will be tired of writing music on heartbreak and will, in time, will write music for her children, her parents, her spouse, whoever he may be. That's just my teatime thoughts 😄 🍵
I understand what you want to say. But you just compared Taylor Swift to the Beatles!
@@Takatukata yeah and I said that the Beatles got it right and she didn't. I used a comparison to the Beatles to criticise her.
it feels like an extremely long and watered down version of midnights with lyrics trying to be as poetic and complicated as possible
personally i dont think the lyrics are that complicated, and it being long does make sense if you read her twitter post and the epilogue written in the vinyl booklet. the album is supposed to be her experience or a manic episode of her situationship with ratty after her relationship with joe ended. if you noticed, the entire aesthetic in fortnight mv, which is the thesis of the album, she seems to be in an asylum which depicts the entire ordeal of this album
she wrote both those albums around the same time & ttpd lyrics even references midnights songs lyrics
@@YukichiChan And with editing, and time to refine the idea she could have had something, but instead it's bloated and hard to see if that was her intention artistically. The album lacks cohesion, something time would have given her a chance to do. Taylor is having an Icarus moment.
Tell me you don’t get the songs
@@YukichiChan why is she talking about manic episodes if shes not even bipolar? she doesnt even believe in therapy or psychiatry! this is so wrong of her, making mental illness a aesthetic and using it to make a vapid interpretation ugh
I have been a swiftie for a very long time, and yet even I am tired of other swifties constantly telling people "you don't like this album because you just don't get it"...🤡
You're not a swiftie you're a hater 😂😂😂😂😂
They’re seriously delusional
@@Plainejan swifties are allowed to dislike an album hun
@@Plainejannot gonna listen to someone that has taylor as their pfp
i’ve been a fan since i was 7 (24 now) and there’s not one song i like on this album i found myself zoning out and skipping 🙃 and i usually love all her music but this one just wasn’t for me
I've felt this way about Taylor Swift's songs for a while. She has had some good songs in the past, but the hype around her right now is not justified at all.
Exactly!!
It’s like mind control
She was unspoken about a few years ago
Even when she won awards.
Yess i agree. Her past songs were (imo) experimental and great to vibe with, but now i feel like she really needs to do those experiments more.
None of us can decide who deserves to be popular.
She's popular for a reason and different strokes for different folks. I hated evermore and i did not enjoy TTPD but at the end of the day plenty if people do and that's fine too.
I think the video was more of a constructive criticism of the album, and an observation of her risk aversion of late than one of questioning her fame.
I feel the same way about many of the current pop scene, like Bad Bunny even calling him The King of Pop, like the hell?
Folklore/Evermore was PEAK Taylor Swift for me.
FRENCH BRAIDS IN A PATTERN LOVE YOU TILL THE MOON AND SATURN PASSED DOWN LIKE FOLK SONGS THE LOVE LASTS SO LONGGG 😭‼️🫵 ( folklore was THEEE album for taylor no lie )
@@xoxolovezThe pointer emojiiii 😭
Reputation was peak taylor for me
that was good shit, she should quarantine again for her next album
@felixsfivestarmichelin2344 ikr, it was disappointing when ttpd didn't sound like those albums, instead we got "'charlie puth should be a bigger artist"
the name of the album is accurate cause after I forced myself to listen to those 31 songs I really felt tortured.
😅😂
not gonna lie, the album Might have been slightly better if had just called it "teenage petulance" because then we'd have an idea of where she's coming from, rather than expecting the album to be folkmore poetry
lol one was enough for me, one and done.
Was it that bad?
😂
I did not like her mentioning Kim's kids . Im not a kim fan at all she annoys me but bringing up kids in an adult beef that ended years ago is foul
Yeah
Agreed, its weird...
What’s the problem of her supposing that a kid of Kim would enjoy her music? What’s anyone’s problem with that line can be?
If she directed this to a black artist, they'd destroy her from bringing up their kids
I agree, but I can't speculate about what was behind that.
Taylor isn't sloppy like that.
What would make sense is if North and Taylor were friends and kept in touch and Kim told her they had to cut ties.
I'm sure Taylor wouldn't bring her up if there wasn't a motive.
I agree I think she likes making money and likes being on top, but also wants to be taken seriously as an artist. And I think those wants are okay, but she’s churning out work like clockwork so I’m not surprised. I’m not a fan of hers but I respect her business decisions for the most part but this is just ????
Part of making great art is that it imitates life which means you have to live it. Obviously the average Joe who does art as a hobby cannot afford to stop working. But artists especially as big as her, can. She’s been in our faces nonstop since 2020/2021? When she released folklore. She in the last 3-4 years has released 4 original albums, I think like 5 re-recordings, had one of if not the biggest world tour, and one of her highest profile relationships which is very public and is profiting off of it. She is way too overexposed. She hasn’t “clocked out “ of work for four years. She needs to sit back and live life so she can create new ideas that are interesting and show growth. Be like dua lipa and go on vacation or something
I think that’s what it is… she wants to maintain her spot at the top. She’s probably the biggest artist in terms of media coverage and sales since Michael Jackson. When people are constantly releasing, that’s usually when they are at their most popular (Drake, Ariana Grande from 2018-2019) Dua Lipa took a break and she isn’t doing as good in the charts and success that she saw in 2020-2021. With Taylor’s fan support, I do think she should be able to take a break and come back strong though.
@@pohmygod Taylor is afraid of taking a break and having younger artists like Olivia excel.
@@RNM-bu4rj I disagree that’s definitely not what it is. Sabrina Carpenter is on the rise, and Taylor helped promote her on The Eras Tour and make her a big star. I don’t think she wants to stop artists from making it big per se, but she does want her spot at the top.
she needs to pick and chose because she legitimately can't do both! It's either she prioritizes artistry and creativity or she prioritizes making more money. She wants her cake and eat it too
Dua Lipa’s current era is flopping rather hard so I guess it makes sense why Taylor doesn’t want to take a lengthy break. She still should, though. She def has a stronger fan base and I think she’d be fine.
The fact we still have two re-recording left like I’m tired 😭😭
Then don't listen to it 🤷♂️
@@geeslothyshush
Why u are tired.. who forced u to listen?? I mean come on
Swifties in the replies mad 💀
@@MorganBF1 why mad?? I am telling the facts.. who forced these people to listen to her album ?? Are u living in North Korea?😂😂
TTPD sounds like a bunch of songs that were rejected from Midnights
*edit: I feel like Joe's depression meshed with Taylor when they first got together because she was also at her lowest and wanted to hide away with someone who understood her sadness. But once her reputation rebounded and she was on top of the world again and happy, his depression got too difficult to deal with.
This whole 'Joe was depressed' narrative is exactly what Taylor wanted yet I haven't seen any one else validating her claims.. As far as I can see he was busy working on movie & TV projects doing interviews promos for them & having a lot of fun.. His co-stars, male & female have nothing but good things to say about him, praising his sense of humour and kindness.. I think he was over trying to make a relationship with a jealous narcissist work once it became apparent she was lusting after an old flame, I guess he got a bit sad about it all, which isn't the same as clinically depressed, which is the swifties take..
Preach! Plus she wanted to just marry, NOT to marry him and I think Joe knew it. I think is the song "bejeweled" she says she's too bombastic for him, so her ideal relation is one when she's adored all the time and never challenged... yeah I get it why all those man dump her.
She releases a new album so often now that all her songs blend together for me now. She’s made me realize how much more I appreciate artists who have some time in between their albums(Adele for example)
I saw one reviewer said she’s the level of fame now that Oprah was in the ‘90’s, given her influence in the music scene, helping to save movie theatres with her concert documentary, and even helping sell NFL merch for that football player she’s dating. And well… I can see it.
"helping to save movie theaters" palease - there are big but-fill-seats movies before and after that one - I am sure it didn't suck to get another, but it's part of a much larger group.
@@xBINARYGODx Movie theaters have been on life-support since the pandemic and streaming services. They’ve been doing decently since Megan came out. But when an action or super hero movie isn’t playing, they really struggle. The Taylor concert movie definitely helped. Just like her tour helped revive small local economies and hotels around the world. I don’t follow her music, but her impact on businesses doesn’t need to be minimized.
I don’t think she contributes much to the influence of music.
No one chases after the other”Taylor” sound and I don’t think that Taylor has a signature sound. Such as the predecessors Michael Jackson or Madonna or even Prince.
People notices Taylor’s voice but she doesn’t have a sound that’s “hers”.
But she does have the best success in current times.
The delusion is real
@@devon53421 Right. I think it’s kinda interesting how she has been able to be as famous and above-reproach as she is (among her fans) while having almost no distinctive voice or stage presence. Every other generational idol in the past that I can think of has been one-of-a-kind, vocally.
she needs to continue with folklore/evermore type stuff cause not only was that her best work but the better songs off ttpd (chloe,the bolter, the albatross etc) remind me a lot of folklore/evermore.
Agreed tbh
this omg
this is so funny after revealing she actually might be casted in the MCU 💀
Wait what? Fr?
I think they debunked that voice
She's definitely not. It's Blake lively 😊
@@you_know_me8218nope
ew, that's akin to replacing Margot Robbie with Lady Gaga
Imagine being in a relationship but writing a whole album about your ex
And it becoming the most Streamer Album on Spotify the next day. She did that 💅
@@JasminL222lmfao. There’s the one. Go back to your hole
And not even the ex from the 6 year relationship, but the 2 month fling 😭 i love her but ommgg 😭
Especially when Matty didn’t care about her and did it to boost himself 🤷🏻♀️
@@JasminL222with weaks vocals a d hight School lyrics
the title of this video is so real.... as a taylor music enjoyer I'm starting to feel like that too
Maybe it’s a lot to keep up but her fans couldn’t be happier… Some artist would benefit from having Taylor’s work ethic.
@@MmDisney200 true, and I envy her work ethic, but at this point she seems to work too much, and in the wrong direction.
I'm scared to admit that reputation - lover - folklore - evermore period is her peak so far. nothing can beat folklore. she needs to start writing songs about imaginary love triangles and houses again
@@MmDisney200actually they wouldn’t because her working as much as she is is why this album has mixed reviews. it’s become quantity over quantity, overexposure and eventually burnout.
@@lunarblake to YOU… I don’t have any issues with her releasing music and based on the streams, the world is happy too 😅 I don’t think any artist should worry about what haters say, they don’t listen to her anyway
Then you’re not a fan
Big fan of her music but this album was clearly not for me. She is kinda in a state where she can do anything now and she won't lose fans, kind of like Drake.
I think she's reached her ceiling with Jack too, very obvious here. The Dessner produced tracks were much better too in this album too. I'm not sure if comfort or if its just her in a state where she just does wants what she wants and that's how I feel really listening it. I don't have any desire or urge to relisten her songs on this album outside of several songs.
Ugh, agree
the anthology carried this album
@@flaaaan7 the anthology split her spine, carrying TTPD down the hill
same here, could not agree more
... Drake is a boring artist... Monotone in delivery, as if having a bad day in spoken poetry class... I hope Taylor doesn't go that far and deep in failing...
She’s deathly afraid of becoming irrelevant and “nothing new”. Self-fulfilling prophecy.
Not only nothing new but also in Carla Bow where she slightly hints at Olivia Rodriguez taking her place
She didnt need to release this 30 track album after the biggest tour of the last 20 years, superbowl bf, and hit album all within 14 years. If anything she needs to step out of the scene some, not keep saturating us with her when so many are already sick of her
Gag is… she could’ve let us breathe after ‘midnights’
she wont be irrelevent bc anytime she releases something yall are on her a$$ b^^tching about it.
Relax she is not going to be irrelevant any time soon..
I find her early music more entertaining. It felt frivolous and fun. As she grows, the narrative is tired. It’s no longer fun. It’s a self indulgent introspective look that lacks ownership. But people see it as empowering or reclaiming, but it just isn’t it.
I was going to write a post about how she still acts like a teen. Like with a majority of people what become famous when they're still developing, she was stunted and keeps acting that way. Her music was always too juvenile for me and she's only one year or two years older. 22 sounded like a teen daydreaming about their entering their adulthood.
you’re commenting under a comment that speaks about how her music has moved away from being light hearted bops - why? Coz she’s a grown ass woman who obviously doesn’t resonate with that. It’s true that when you grow older, life becomes more complex, grey. You lose thag youthful fervour and that’s obviously reflected in her songs. I don’t get how you listened to her album and got a “childish” vibe. There were songs that took on a girlish character but the topics were very adult - desiring another when depressed in a relationship, the psychology of fame, giving up on someone a relationship after you give it everything you had, naively thinking you can change a man.
Are adults saints
@@psychedelicyeti6053 22 was written when she was 22 though
Yeah this behavior is cuter when you're 16, not so much at almost 35
@@nostromo7928 Good one, respect.
the album is so bloated. Woman get a damn editor!
it's not maybe you should listen to it
@@alexchaves4344Ew, her cult is here. I've been a fan since Fearless. I know what I'm talking about.
@@alexchaves4344it definitely could’ve benefitted greatly from better editing, so they’re not wrong
true! it's like taylor was replaced by her evil and more annoying clone
examples?
If this wins over Country Carter at the Grammys next year, the internet will be in shambles
I honesty don't think she's going to win as there have been some articles of people tearing her down which is funny as previous months they were licking her ass up but as a Swiftie I honestly think she won't win
She's not winning that category. Everyone is tearing her up, the same thing that happened with reputation...
She will win cause the Grammys are so fake 😭💀
im bettong on eternal sunshine winning or radical optmisim
i will be personally hurt
SAY IT LOUDER. I'm a swiftie and I don't like the past two albums, definitely no quality control.
Past two ? Are you referring to midnights too or just the two-part album
Same! I think Midnights had some bops here and there but I think Midnights was wayyyy too overhyped and honestly should not have gotten album of the year🥲. Evermore and Folklore (though both dropped in the same year) are 2 of her best most recent albums in my opinion.
Who needs quality control when your fans think you're god
@TheJosman I agree, Taylor is talented in her songwriting skills however I feel like she has fallen susceptible to producing more quantity over quality. Prime example, she has consecutively dropped about 4 albums back to back if I'm not mistaken (Folklore July 2020, Evermore Dec. 2020, Midnights October 2022 and TTPD 2024 PLUS her re-recordings). I admire her work ethic but like Honest said in this video quality control is needed.
I am OG swiftie and let me tell you I still didn't listen all songs from Midnights, or I did but didn't notice.
The diss track about Kim Kardashian isn't the serve Taylor and her fans think that it is. That fiasco was almost 10 years ago and Kim hasn't even talked about Taylor since then. The song just seems petty and childish at Taylor's big age. I think Taylor's critics might be on to something when they say she's stuck in a teenage mindset
the song quite literally thanks her and says she forgives her because it eventually made her heal inner traumas from school she didnt even realize she still had and now feels grateful. why are you literally lying
@@mhmhmbmltfapomtydt Dude why are you lying. You need to actually read the lyrics cuz ain't nothing in that song says forgiveness. The thanks is clearly sarcastic and vindictive not genuine
"All that time you were throwing punches. I was building something. And I CAN'T FORGIVE THE WAY YOU MADE ME FEEL. Screamed fuck you, Aimee to the night sky as the blood was gushing"
Then talking about how her kids will come home singing a song that only us two is gonna know is about you.
@@mkayyy1918 and then the last chorus is literally THANK YOU bcs i cant forget the way YOU MADE ME HEAL
If you want to be thought of as a deep, poetic soul as the title implies ... don't mention a Kardashian on your album. Kim ain't no saint but I agree it was immature. She became famous at 14 and has always been rich, and that has caused her growth to stall because she was never challenged.
@@mhmhmbmltfapomtydt She gave a sarcastic thanks to Kim after spending the entire song bashing her. If Taylor really forgave her then why equate Kim and Kanye to "trash taking itself out" in her Times interview earlier in the year? The bigger point is why even make a song about Kim at all? Why dredge up a feud that happened almost a decade ago? She knows her crazy stans are just gonna want to bash Kim again for old beef the same way they did to Jake Gyllenhaal
Taylor used gay rights as her new aesthetic in the Lover era and even made a ✨stunning and brave✨doc about her coming out as a Democrat and then acts all mad when people are surprised that she associated herself with a controversial guy? I don't care who she dates and I think it's embarassing how some of her fans wrote her a letter telling her to break up with him, that's an insanely unhealthy level of parasocial relationship. However, she doesn't get to be shocked if people are disappointed to see her date a guy like Matty Healy, it makes it seem like she just used gay people to promote her music. It's so dumb how her hardcore fans are acting like she "ate up all the haters" when the only person she embarassed is herself and exposed how she really only cares about social justice issues when it benefits her.
right, you said it better than anyone, it's not people worried about her being with a "difficult man" its how hypocritical she is, and how she has used movements almost as a way of being trendy
What did Matt ever say about gays
@@Flixtex you're really trying to make it seem like she did the riskiest move on her career, which no, the people who stopped liking her are not a big loss compared to how many new fans came, her popularity only multiplied after that, supporting gay rights is what everyone should do and no one should be put in a pedestal for finally doing it public.
@@SnapeArgentoYou all acting like she did something crazy! Why do you care?
@@lexis4490 no it's the fact that Taylor is a hypocrite
Also can I just add that the inspirations from Lana del Rey are so on the nose? The opening line for the title track is , diction wise, the exact same for mariners apartment complex
“You left my typewriter at my apartment, straight from the tortured poets department”
“You took my sadness out of context, at the mariners apartment complex”
Not to mention other blatant inspirations - almost perfect copying of Lana such as the mention of Chelsea hotel, “daddy” usage, the themes of the fatalist lover, the themes of melancholy and dispair and poetry.
It feels like she’s trying to become a more commercially successful version of Lana del Rey. I’m not saying that Lana OWNS any of those styles but the similarities are uncanny
When the album title first came out I told my friends its giving lana 😭😭 also i think halsey is rubbing off on her and i hate it 😭
Her style of singing has changed to sound more like Lana, with a deeper more melancholy voice
"I can fix him (no really i can)" is such a blatant lana rip-off too
I remember trying to give Taylor a listen and whatever song I was listening to reminded me of Alanis Morissette, and I got distracted and started listening to Alanis 😂 then I learned Taylor invited Alanis as a surprise artist at one of her concerts.
I know people are always inspiring each other, but it does seem like Taylor likes to try on their shoes, as well. She's just a little more lost in Lana's closet 😝
I’ve noticed that too. A lot of her newer stuff feels like they’re trying to be Lana but she’s not really willing to commit to the bit.
Was this album bad? No
But was this album good, especially considering Taylor's other albums? Not at all, this feels like Midnights watered down, but it has some great gems
Felt that too, just wasn't really for me.
This album is better than midnights
The fact that you are tip toeing just to not say this album is cringly bad is funny 🤣🤣🤣
@@emmarosie7176 lol, she has some lines that come across as pretentious writing, and some are just too painful, I hate that she keeps going back to topics like her hometown or high school, it comes across as trying too hard to be relatable for the new audience, "who's gonna troll you"???? you might as well just go "how you do fellow kids".
don't agree, it's not favorite album of hers either, but it's certainly better than Midnights. At least this one has a story, Midnights was incredibly vague and the production was even more bland than on TTPD. That album did not deserve Album of the Year at all, she only won because of the Taylormania right now.
jack and taylor are both great artist but i feel they both hold eachother back. They have found what theyre comfortable with and stuck with it. Both of them have shown they can achieve newer sounds when they explore new producers/artist
taylor is feeling so poetic that some words and lyrics are forced to be in a melody which is not good to hear and sounds awkward
31 songs and NOT ONE SINGLE CHORUS ON A SONG
@@bperez8656are you dumb...
😂😂 “She’s feeling so poetic”
(Saying this as a long-time massive fan)
I feel like this album feels different because for the first time, her writing is aware of her god-like status. It feels incredibly parasocial, self-conscious, and yet cocky somehow.
You said that it feels like she's trying to prove something, but to me it almost feels like she thought her pen was inevitably made of gold? I can only attribute the cringier lines to that kind of blindness, and I'm not saying this in a hateful way. I don't think the writing's bad; I think it's inconsistent and there's a reason why. You need to have a strong (and kind of misguided) sense of self-importance to think that lyrics such as “Tattooed Golden Retriever” are worth even jotting down.
It's just interesting as a psychological phenomenon because she's always written from the perspective of trying to prove her writing to the critics, but now she clearly knows that the industry is wrapped around her finger. I understand that her writing style will continue to change for as long as she lives, I just need her new influences to settle and mix to match with her style.
I won't be talking about the production bc I know we must all agree
Lmao "tattooed golden retriever" took me tf out while listening like what does that mean, Taylor?
I get "tattoo kiss", but "tattooed golden retriever"? 😂
“She thought her pen was inevitably made of gold” 🎯
You worded it so perfectly! The fame got on her head and her ego is inflated, that’s why she calls herself a poet. It’s laughable.
@@esssteeaaright like those lyrics are laughable
she is a narcissist . The shameful behaviour and self promotion at the grammys , the drab arse tour , sorry eras and basically an album(s) that wasn't needed . She only did it because Grande,Eilish and Dua Lipa may steal some of her glory . It has backfired big time .
In perfect fire sign outcome
Arrogance but none of the perfectionism of an earth sign
I grew up with Taylor's music and was a fan since 2008. But she's 34 now and still writes songs the exact same way as she did when she was 17. Compare her to other artists like Adele, who is literally just a year older than her but writes songs that are mature and appropriate for an adult in her 30s. At this rate, I can totally see Taylor writing the same kind of songs from her dairy at 50. It's kind of cringe.
She should have just released a song named 30 acting like a 13 Lol
Kind of is an understatement
yes because our song & mine are written exactly the same was as tolerate it, coney island, happiness, the great war, labyrinth, so long london, my tears ricochet... maybe you only heard the hit songs? idk
I have been saying the same thing since Me
Adele been singing the same stuff for 15 years now
WHY IS SHE EXEMPT FROM CRITICISM? WHYYYYYYYY
She is obviously not. And as a swiftie i agree with some of the constructive criticism on social media. But the thing with Taylor hate is that the haters take it over the top calling her talentless or asking her to die or whatever. There are only a very small proportion of haters actually being sensible
I think she's cultivated a narrative that it's sexist to critique her, that she's some underdog fighting the man who is victimized in every situation. While I'll admit she's targeted for sexism and has been in the past (including internalized misogyny), a lot of the recent criticisms are valid. She's a woman, yes, but aside from that she's an enormously privileged person who was literally born the daughter of two billionaires. And she hasn't been wielding her privilege well or been really honest about it.
She also has fans who leap to defend her at every chance.
@@kukumehta8773Nah I think it's that anytime someone says a legitimate criticism, they seem to get hounded, both by swifties and the media. I'm not talking about all swifties, like fans who are rational, and people who just love her music, which is fine. I just hate this whole narrative that any criticism is seen as a personal slight against her and misogynistic. Then that makes people angry and then they come out with actual hatred and stuff that makes their legitimate criticism look like petty hate, and people focus on that rather than the actual proper criticism. You can criticise someone without being hateful, but so many times I've seen legitimate criticism just being labeled as 'hate'. It's infuriating as no one should be above criticism.
@@lauramurray615 her haters are equally annoying and it's a fact
@@kukumehta8773 I'm not denying haters being annoying, I agree with you on that. I'm talking about people who aren't haters getting grouped in with them because they have genuine criticism. And again, I'm not talking about most swifties.
Finally an honest review. Swifties act like this is some amazing art.
just cause you don’t like it doesn’t mean it isn’t good loool
@@kavya71954and just cause you think it's good doesn't make it good either but oh well😂
I personally like Taylor but I am realistic enough, to admit when something is not her best.
@@kavya71954 it objectively isn't good by Taylor's own standards lmaooo
@@LunarValleyInMyMindby her standards this is her best objectively lmao
It's her most confessional album with no filter yet
This is literally the objectively true
I couldn't agree more. Like this album doesn't even compare to folklore, evermore, 1989 nor reputation. Even midnights is far better than TTPD, I only loved one song which is "Guilty as sin?". As a swiftie, I'm tired of those other swifties being delusional and saying that this is her best work, like what?
Jack Antonoff is holding her back with his repetitive ass production, like she's like a billionaire now it doesn't hurt to get new producer. It's not like she's going to betray her best friend Jack, like c'mon now.
Welp, knowing that she’s crying about missing her racist ex boyfriend makes that album even less interesting. Knowing that he was watching videos of BW being violated wasn’t a turn off for her.
And the lack of remorse over it. She calls her critics "judgemental creeps" and acts like she was the victim in that situation. Another opportunity to learn, check her privilege, and improve that got squandered.
I didn't know we were criticizing the person who y'all THINK the album is about.
@@connection7165all her albums are about her exes so… LOL. When she comes up with some original content then we can talk about something else
@@connection7165they don’t “think,” they know lol. taylor made it as clear as possible
I don’t know if Matty Healy is actually racist or not but I know some of the stuff he’s done has been taken out of context.
The idea of her creating a song about his depression leaves me conflicted. Living with someone who has endured mental illness, I get that it's a tough journey. My own experiences with my mother have left their mark on me. I recognize that for an artist, music is a form of expression, a necessary release. Yet, there's something about it that just doesn't sit right with me.
I'm not suggesting she intentionally portrayed him as a villain, but it somewhat comes across that way. Simply because he didn't want to marry her due to his mental illness, her fans have become overly aggressive. They launch attacks, and I do not support that behavior.
She has a song in which she says "There's no such thing as bad thoughts, only your actions talk" it doesn't matter if it was her intention to portray him some way or another, her fans are being horrible with him, and now the narrative is "he stole her youth by locking her on a cage and not letting her shine", now I listen to renegade and feel bad for him, she doesn't care how it can affect other people and how disgusting it is to let anyone know you have depression
Yes, it's unfortunate. Were people aware of his mental health issues? I'm not very familiar with him either. I don't follow Taylor's relationships closely; if she references them in a song, I appreciate it for the music, not the relationship woes.
As a fellow MI sufferer, I agree ... you don't get to disclose or write about someone else's struggles unless they gave you consent. If someone "outed" me when I wasn't ready to disclose it, it could be traumatizing and violating. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth, too.
@@diamondleo5136 I'm honestly not completely sure, the fans had the idea of him as a sad hunted man, taylor alleged songs about him talk about his heart being blue, or his anxiety. I dont think he speaks about anything related to his private life, not sure tho, hes just a private guy so probably the idea of him that people have come from what Taylor said on her songs. Good for him tho, hes taking himself from the narrative and hasn't said anything
it’s just inauthentic. like with the album title name and the tracklist of and lyricism, she’s trying very hard to be lana del rey or phoebe bridgers. i can understand that it’s inspiration, but at what cost? an artist makes songs that are overtly influenced by their inspiration, and that’s fine, but the main thing is, is the song/album good though? can you be more cohesive ? if not, then i’ll just dismiss it as a wannabe 🤷🏾♀️
also this album is the definition of victim complex, narcissism and selfishness. a swiftlyneutral reddit post about it said it the best, i can’t cause it’s too long lol
Absolute truth.
@GhostOfEvermorethem coming into the industry after her has nothing to do with what they said.
@GhostOfEvermore She's still clearly inspired by their sound. Taylor's earlier music sounds a lot different than Lana, but her later music sounds a lot like Lana's, people can be inspired by people who can out after them.
took the words right out of my mouth fr
It’s literally her most honest album. Maybe you just don’t get it
This album is way too long and boring.
Taylor is a brilliant artist but this was not it.
Ikr I was expecting better from taylor
Thank you! She did too much only to deliver so little.
She needs to take a break
Can't stand her
Thank u for saying it..its bad. I agree
Jack tries so hard to make her lana 2.0, I also didn't understood what the "I was a functioning alcoholic til nobody noticed my new aesthetic" line meant, the toxic swifties called me stupid and never explained it to me
It means exactly what it says ☠️ but I do agree jack is trying to make her another Lana del Rey
@@tupcilian7645she doesn’t need to be lana del rey shes way way bigger and taylor worked w jack way before jack and lana got together.
Are you asking what a functioning alcoholic is
@@victorfematt7191 shes definitely an alcoholic, this girl does not stop drinking wine.
@@victorfematt7191 lmao only a tr@shy human being will try to invalidate someone else’s struggles and emotions. Lyrics around alcohol in Taylor Swift songs have been present since 1989 and rapidly increased since reputation. I can say the same about lana de rey, that all she does is for attention and to please the little audience she has made since her breakout image is solidified but i wont because i dont know her and I’ve no means to justify what im claiming. Only a hater would do such things 💜
I dont think she cares enough, she mentions Kim's daughter on one of her songs. I like that Joe isn't a part of the narrative anymore, everyone talks about her giving him her youth, but she wasn't the only one who wasted a part of her life, and its worse when the other person referred as the time you both had together as being on prison, and also exposing how you had depression and that is stopping you from giving your everything to a relationship.
She's victim in EVERY situation. I try to support women, but man. She tried to sue a man who tweeted about her jet emissions, claiming she was trying to "dominate, control and stalk" her. She believes she's the target of "judgemental creeps" when called out for dating a man who gave the N*zi salute onstage and touched women at his concerts inappropriately. This is what happens when you are rich your entire life (even childhood) and never really have to take accountability for your actions.
She mentioned not in a bad way chill
@@Melisa-g1j bringing a child into the beef you have with parents is disturbed. doesn’t matter if it was “not in a bad way”, it goes without being said that you should always leave children out of it.
@@Melisa-g1j bringing someone's child into her revenge fantasy is gross and so low, completely unnecessary, even I know that's not the way to go. Dont excuse her
@@C12341 I agree with most of what you said. I think she probably gets amused by those things, thinking about the people who hurt her not being able to escape her, listening her voice at every place they go, her face being on every billboard
The fact that she could've easily changed the 1800's lyrics to maybe a Bridgerton reference with all the dresses and ballgowns and romance but she chose to word the actual lyrics in such an awkward way and everyone heard this line and thought it was fine to release💀
"I want to live in the 1830's without the racists" but she hangs out with Matty Healy and Lena Dunham. Also doesn't condemn the racist abuse her fans send to black women. Does that include the racists in her inner circle and fanbase? 💀💀
Taylor has clearly stated that she doesn’t like racist people which is why she was so anti trump
But that is exactly the interpretation of the music theres so many media like books and movies aimed at nostalgia and aimed at that period of time but ignoring the problems with it and taylor points that out
@@sthefanysevero9077in a clunky way. She could’ve referenced imagery of that period (ballgowns, debutants, etc) and then pointed out the flaws but to any non-white women the second you just straight up say “1830s”, we immediately think slavery and colonialism, so defeats the whole point since nobody but white women in the west are nostalgic for the “1830s”. That’s why people are criticizing it. Yeah nostalgia makes you overlook the bad, but WHO other than taylor is nostalgic for the 1830s.
Taylor in that song goes on to say she would not want to live in the 1830's because being nostalgic is not thinking of all the negative things about that period. You need to read the first two lines in context to the rest of that paragraph.
this album seems like it is meant only to appeal to ardent swifties, people who know all the "lore" about her life and fawn and obsess over it. I don't see how anyone outside her cult would enjoy these songs because they simply don't appeal outside from her spilling specific "tea" about her life in the lyrics. her songwriting is incredibly rote on midnights and TTPD, it seems like she is on auto-pilot, which is disappointing as a casual listener who really came to respect her songwriting with folklore-evermore. it's nice for her fans that she keeps feeding them, but I think she needs to take some time to really craft some new ideas for her music. I don't expect her to really get experimental or try something new because that's never been the kind of artist she is. but I just get frustrated when her fans try to argue she is the best artist/songwriter working right now, when she simply is not
I don't fully agree. I don't care about the lore and I still enjoy a lot of the songs on the album. I think the problem is, it's just too many songs and many sound similar and bland at first. It takes time to like this album. If you like Folklore and Evermore (which are my favourites too), I think you will find a lot to like in this album, both in the standard edition and the Anthology part (which sounds a lot like Evermore). There are some real gems on this album. That being said, there are some bad songs too, and I understand not everyone wants to spend their time re-listening such a long album. It is indeed more for "Swifties" than casual fans.
I don't know about the lore bc I'm a new fan and I like a lot of songs from this album... why are you speaking for everybody?
@@sigyn27 so true!!! Listened to every single song at release. Only streamed a few of them for the following weeks. It def takes time for a lot of the songs to click on u, when a lot of them sound very similar to each other 😭 Even midnights' songs had at least a bit of sonic distinction from each other. In short, ttpd is a big grower, but it also has its fair share of bops
And the thing is, almost everything she's ever done has been cowritten. That's not to say she doesn't write anything or has no ability, but a lot of the songwriting is owed to cowriters. I suspect the National did a lot of the heavy lifting lyrically on folklore/evermore because of how similar it is to their own music.
the swifties in the comments fighting for their lives 😭
Lmao
I feel like the anthology should have been reviewed rather than just TTPD.
TTPD songs weren't the best imo (i'm a long time swiftie) there were more folklore type songs in the anthology album. I literally wish she just released the extended songs.
Chloe or sam or sophia or marcus was a beautiful song, and i look in people's windows was a good short song
@@Nicole-kc1vx babe, can we just agree it wasn’t good and move on. Why do we have to give a three-point page essay of excuses?
@@Nicole-kc1vxif u need to say “i’m a long time swfitie” ur not a swfitie ur just shit talking abt taylor
@@OceanBoulevarddshut up both of u suck go away
I stopped being her fan when i came to the realisation that in every relationship, she's the one who is wronged. 😅 I'm now old enough to not fall that shit
But she literally says, “it’s me hi, I’m the problem it’s me. She knows damn well it’s her😂
John Mayer dated her when he was 32 and she was 19.
@AvaKaye1515 🤦♀️
@@HollyNikole I don't even know a song where she says that. I stopped listening to her in 2016.
@AvaKaye1515so u would let ur 19 yr old child date a 32 yr old?.. since they r both "adults" ... Then best parent award goes to you.
I just cannot listen to an album riddled with matty healy references because every time, that clip of him laughing about j*cking off to “gh*tto gaggers” and his ex’s disgusted reaction to a “black woman being absolutely brutalized” (his words) will come back to haunt me every time… as does the shocked and confused realization that she literally kept dating him for MONTHS after that interview first circulated. That was so much more disturbing to me than the ice spice comments and I was equally disturbed that featuring ice spice was all it took for the world to just pretend that part of the interview never happened.
And yet she calls the people who condemned him "judgemental creeps". Healy also has harassed women on camera, inappropriately touched women at his concerts, done the N*zi salute onstage, posted lists of deceased holocaust victims on his Insta, used the death of George Floyd to promote an album, and much more. "Creep" doesn't begin to describe him. The amount of people defending him is pure white privilege and apathy to bigotry/abuse.
Go off queen!
Agreed! It's one of the other reasons why I don't like this album
Matty Healy was spitting on us when I was at last 1975 concert. And I can't believe they called it "at their very finest '
Thank you for writing out the full phrases he said/context. Seriously terrifying stuff how the world seemed to get over it because swift had one black woman as a feat
This is so strange, because she has always been popular in Europe, but I never thought that I would hear about her EVERYWHERE. Literally, I can't break free. Everything I know about her and her music is against my will. I wonder if people who say that her albums are "masterpieces" really think so, or has the level of good pop music dropped that much? I have nothing against her fans, let everyone listen to what they want, but it annoys me that she is everywhere and people react strangely to the fact that I don't listen to her. I get second-hand embarrassment when I see her lyrics.
exactly, and i would understand if it were somebody with really good vocals or unique production or another huge selling point, but all her melodies are so flat. it’s odd lol
Is that River as your pic though? 👀 Bless u, looks like him from a distance haha
@@Flixtex yes the songs are jam packed with ‘sophisticated’ words, but that doesn’t mean the melodies should be so monotonous lol. she’s proven she can do engaging ballads so many times before with literally every album prior to this
Exactly, she is all up in our faces by force 😂😂
Taylor Swift is one of those musicians that are more popular as a public figure and person than for people liking her music. As most mainstream artists are these days. (Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Shawn Mendes, etc…) Out of those I mentioned I will admit Taylor at least has some good albums. The only one I would consider a masterpiece is Folklore, with Red and Evermore coming close. The rest have some gems but are a bit messy to be perfect.
The conflict between production, melody, and wordiness is really interesting to me because it reminds me of Bob Dylan, who's her polar opposite in terms of culture and counterculture. Taylor's writing is beginning to be mythicized just the same, tho.
You don't necessarily hear people critiquing the lack of musicality in Dylan's later records-they just say it's not for everyone and that it's the lyrics that matter. For Taylor, though, I wonder how she'll reconcile that with her mainstream-pop-artist status.
I feel like her writing will eventually be studied widely in academia (in fact we've seen that happen in recent years) just like Dylan's, and as such, she will be judged in harsher, more rigorous ways. As in, nobody denies Dylan's writing skills, but critics, scholars, and fans do agree that there are bad Dylan albums. I believe that's what's in store for Taylor; eventually her pop-titan status will be traded for a quieter, more objective devotion from a more niche audience. Just like purists and Dylanists, only old Swifties and new Swiftists will stay. It really is fascinating to witness her transition from a celebrity to a myth real-time.
It’s a bit disgusting.
Unwarranted.
Ppl became obsessed because of the drama of it all
What lyrics? She wears short skirts i wear tshirts?!
She'll be mostly forgotten by the end of the decade. Take the Bee Gees - kings of the second half of 1970s and then couldn't even get a hit in the USA. That's what's in store for her. This level of overexposure will backfire in a major way. "Studied widely in academia"? Lol, that's a sure sign there's not much academia left.
@@ВладимирКруглов-к9о i do not like her at all but she has many blind loyal basic girl fans who were with her since the beginning and support each album release. In fact if she releases an album with just her fart sounds, they will still buy and rave about it. She got so big this time bec it is a culmination of her substantial die hard fans plus new fans who are in it bec she is just pushed extensively. Like in anything, nothing lasts forever and things will settle. Im pretty sure she will still sell well in the future but i do hope no round 2 of this super fame bec she is at the end of the day really mediocre, basic, average, ho hum.
@@stanbalo No, "Touch me while your bros play grand theft auto". 😂 But I will say that Dylan is a true poet who wrote his own lyrics. Taylor is a corporate brand heavily shaped by cowriters.
i dont doubt that taylor is talented and knows how to play the game, but she's not that creative and should take a break from releasing music. 31 tracks and none of them stand out. like, she's in such a sweet spot in her career, which is so rare to get when you're in your mid 30's. anything she does will do well, so she might as well experiment and try to be more original and creative, but she's still doing generic shit with pretentious lyrics. folklore was what made me really interested in her work, but everything after that sounds bad (except the rerecordings). we all love a breakup song, but god, give it a rest.
She feels more like a brand than an artist.
@@lordfreerealestate8302 exactly!
I couldn't agree more. Like this album doesn't even compare to folklore, evermore, 1989 nor reputation. Even midnights is far better than TTPD, I only loved one song which is "Guilty as sin?". As a swiftie, I'm tired of those other swifties being delusional and saying that this is her best work, like what?
Jack Antonoff is holding her back with his repetitive ass production, like she's like a billionaire now it doesn't hurt to get new producer. It's not like she's going to betray her best friend Jack, like c'mon now.
@@Rendezvousssssss its honesty refreshing to see at least some of her fans being reasonable. imo she should explore other genres of music and other themes to sing about. not even the rerecordings are *that* good, because the 1989 tv was really bad, she sounds like a robot, the overproduction is awful, and i was personally most excited about this one.
31 tracks is too many but I don't agree that none of them stand out. There are some real gems on TTPD. Also, this album is a bit like Evermore for me, the more I listen to it, the more I like it (with some exceptions, some songs are just not so good).
Praying for you honest, here’s hoping you don’t get torn apart 😂
if she was a video game she’d be Call of Duty, yearly releases with the same safe formulas and barely anything new
And the same insane price point 😂
😂😂
the fact that you say this when she's had two major genre changes throughout her career...
@@ivyfuss3350 lmaooo it’s giving joko siwa “I’m the first in my generation to do this” like…girl she’s changed from “country” to pop..that’s two genre changes 😂 even Call of Duty has switched the game up two times 😂
@@Thenewboidahlia i’m not a taylor stan so don’t come for me but to be fair she definitely has changed genres a fair few times. folklore and evermore don’t fall in the synth-pop or country category. they’re mostly alternative folk
''I can Fix Him(No really I can)'' GIRL💀
Somebody make a track called "No you can't".
“Woah maybe I can’t” this is such a funny song.
Keep in mind she is over 30 and saying shi like this
@@CatCatCaatand what about it? She literally said .. woah maybe I can't. At the end.
@GhostOfEvermore shut up swiftie. And no it’s not just the context of it. The way she says it is childish af and cringe. If someone like Olivia or Sabrina who are still fairly young titled “I can fix him, no I really can” I would have understood. Not this grown as woman 😂
Maybe the swifties need to realize that people put on these sorts of pedestals also get more scrutiny than just anyone else. You cannot have it both ways, and also - labeling all of the push back against the album as toxic and of the like is disgusting (at best). But whatever, fanboyism is the same no matter where you find it, and you can find it almost anywhere in high supply.
Half of it is toxic and just pure hate automatically. Bee hive been pressed for 8 years now
It’s so sad that we can no longer just critique music. Musicians used to have a hunger to improve and reflect on feedback and now they can slap the hater label on any slight critique or even neutral opinion
Taylor could literally shit on a mic and her fans would still say thats her greatest work.
ew stop u made me see an awful image i now cannot unsee help
As Charli XCX said "Music is not important. Artistry is". Peacocking as a poet, doesnt make you a poet.
That is such a perfect quote, it really sums up what I think about this album and the direction Taylor should take in her career from now on.
I'm an Iranian fashion designer and one of my designs was worn by her but another brand got credit. I was a fan when I was younger and honestly it hurts a little... I'm used to not being noticed for my work because of where I'm from, but seeing it from someone who talks about standing up for young artists and women, it hurt🫠
Damn, that really sucks, I'm sorry that happened to you. I'd be really upset too if that happened to me
The black and white of ttpd got me soooo excited to hear another album like folklore… but was sorely disappointed
Taylor does this with every relationship.
Imo, It’s really rude to do to someone. Imagine if a guy did that with the girl he was seeing, he would be canceled immediately
@@wilteddaisessorry to break it to you but a LOT of artist do, male artists
The fact that even a month after this was posted she’s still doing it and released her 37 version.
Her 37th? 🫠
"Everything is starting to feel disenchanted, conveyor belt oriented in a remix of the same formula. "
" Some songs should stay in a vault, the album almost just feels like a straight-to-the-point diary entry."
This is on point! It is not a terrible album, It's just juvenile.
Well why wouldn’t it sound juvenile if you’re recycling teeny bopper break up songs that you sang about at 17, but you’re 34…
Honestly I think it's meant to be a bit juvenile
nah cuz even Fearless is still wayyy better than this and she was just a child when she wrote that
She copies Lana del rey's voice a lot on the album
I felt horrible about how obvious it was that she was trying to sound edgy like Lana Del Rey who gets none of the awards, none of the credit, and is more talented
@@bperez8656 💯
Taylor's new albums are just not for me I feel like ever since midnights she has been releasing mid music and I feel like she is aware that her large fan base will buy and stream it anyway 💀😭
In the beginning of her Eras tour, I destroyed my search history because I was looking up Taylor trying to find answers on why she's as popular as she is. One swiftie Redditer wrote how Taylor spoke about how she left her time was coming to a close, and then COVID happened. It gave time for people to get reintroduced to her and she wrote songs with less stress on herself. That post combined with what you said, I'm thinking she's trying to ride the wave as long as she possibly can.
She always changes up her style. It's obvious that you shouldn't really like everything she might release.
@@phineassss4901so so many other artists! I just feel like her fan base isn’t as diverse compared to maybe Michael Jackson listeners or even SZA/Frank Ocean listeners or smth. Go to any of her shows and you will find one common denominator
@@psychedelicyeti6053 Well, for one i think that folklore is actually a great album - so it's not like her music is trash. And if you look at her biggest hits of the 2010s, you'll notice that most of them were cowritten by Max Martin. He is easily the most successful modern songwriter with 26 Billboard 100 number ones. The only person who has more than him is Paul McCartney. As for her recent success, i think it's the combination of a few things, but the quality of her music isn't one of them. The Eras tour, combined with her rereleasing her albums has given her a massive marketing boost. And most of her music is about her life, which leads to her fans dissecting everything to find out what song is about whom. She has managed to create this parasocial relationship with her fans, which artificially boosts her numbers - they're in it for gossip basically.
@@psychedelicyeti6053 A lot of the reason why she's so popular is that she was born into wealth and privilege. She is the daughter of two billionaires. Her father had connections and wealth, and effectively bought her way into one of the biggest record labels by buying up major stock. The big record labels decide what becomes popular, not necessarily who is best. It's like North West in the Hollywood Bowl Lion King performance. She was mediocre but she had rich parents.
I feel like her team is trying to make her surpass Beyonce and they will always fail and the reason for that is because Beyonce actually takes her time to do her albums whereas Taylor drops an album every year working with the same producer and writer and after all you are right it’s becoming like Marvel in the beginning the movies were great then over time loses its luster.. it’s like wash rinse repeat
@@hassanmansour9857you know what swifty
I'm sorry, but isn't she already bigger than Beyonce? Like, I really hated most of TTPD even as a swiftie, and I also recognize that Taylor's vocals are far worse than Bey's, but popularity-wise she surpassed Beyonce a few years ago, it's just numbers, and numbers don't necesarily mean quality, which I would argue is the case for TTPD: most overhyped album of the decade breaking streaming records left and right because Tay's fans are just batshit crazy over her.
@@hassanmansour9857
Being the best artist in the 21st century.
@@LuxminosityBoy
Beyoncé is the celebrity of all celebrities. Celebrities have been watching Beyoncé perform live and tear the roof out of the Oscars and Grammys and VMAs for 20 years they know her quality better than anyone these same celebrities have not been admiring Taylor Swift the same way. Taylor swift wants to be respected by her peers the same way Beyoncé is respected and it will just never happen the same, no matter how delusionally the swifties call her the next Michael Jackson.
Beyoncé is a STAR rated vocalist that has been asked to perform in front of presidents, kings, foreign heads of state, and by musical legends like Diana Ross, Prince, Michael Jackson, the list goes on…
Beyoncé doesn’t make music lmao. She’s a showgirl. I’m not a Taylor fan either but don’t act like Beyoncé sits down and writes songs
I would be scared to become Taylor Swift's boyfriend.
don't worry, she's not interested in you ❤
@@_dayliqhtcringe response babe
💀get a life. She doesn't care about you either. Chill@@_dayliqht
@@_dayliqhtwhat are you her spokesperson? lmao
@@_dayliqht uh yeah??? she chooses toxic guys anyway and dumps the ones who're "too nice", so no shit she ain't interested
The thing about every Taylor Swift album is that my first impression is never my lasting opinion. She has so many albums that I didn’t love that much at first, and now I really enjoy them.
very very true
I started feeling that TTPD wasn't such a good album, but now I haven't stopped listening to it, I understood the songs better and I liked it, it's in my top three, so, yes, people start with an opinion and then it changes. I just feel like some songs can be a little bit controversial like thank you aimee, like, why go back to this issue of the fight between them, but at the same time, she didn't mention anything about Kanye, that is, maybe she realized that he is not well mentally or that he did it for attention, but she will never forget what Kim did because she had no reason to hate her, I evaluate this song that way. Lastly I just wanted to say that this album was exactly what she wanted with fame, she grew up too much to be able to release a work simply for herself and not for the media, so I say that this album is like a diary because that's right, a collection of songs that were not made with the intention of making a profit or telling a story but rather a kind of mental escapism where she can reveal how she is and how she wants to be
That part is true
You have to give her work time to simmer.
yeah but music isn't supposed to wait until 7 or 8 tries to sound good. if it GROWS on you, it's literally your brain deciding "oh nvm this one ain't gonna stop listening, so i might as well drown my musical tastes". also your brain just sorta gets used to the melodies & lyrics at one point, so it's like oh yeah, i must like it if i know what this is and have visited it before
@@regulusthestar Maybe that is your experience. But for me, a lot of it has to do with the right time or right place. People like art that they relate to. Which is why a lot of people listen to sad music when they’re going through a breakup. Or when my mom does, I instantly gravitated to her song Never Grow Up. It has nothing to do with how many times I forced my self to listen to it. It’s the fact that the song was there at a time that I needed it.
You also just miss a lot of lyrics when you first hear a song, and sometimes one lyric will catch your attention that you never heard before. Art is a lot more complex than the credit you give it.
I just don't understand the hype surrounding her. She's a good singer.. she's pretty.. she writes her own music but I just don't find her to be ground breaking. I would say maybe it's because I'm older now but there are plenty of swifties my age. I just don't find her music relatable or interesting. It all seems so repetitive. A love song, a song about heart break, a song about change.. idk.
I agree. Her songs are ok, good for radio plays, but not special or necessarily leave a long lasting feeling. Also with how much she releases new songs none of them have a long lasting moment as there is always new music being pumped out to replace previous tracks
@@Lion08888 I've only picked one song apart.
Fortnite is not about a love affair clara bow, mental illness or her boyfriends.
"I was supposed to be sent away
But they forgot to come and get me"
That line is about how she should have been a flash in the pan, a fad and carted away and forgotten because she isn't very talented, and it's her worst fear being exposed for a fraud.
When Kanye took her mic away, her initial reaction was she thought e/o at the AMAs booing and yelling were yelling at HER.
She wanted the ground to open up and swallow her and disappear
Someone had to tell her that the mob hadn't turned on her and she wasn't in some kind of existential danger.
She;s still insecure and has nightmares about getting the ball and running the wrong way with it in front of a 200,000,000 people, and disappointing everyone...again
Real Sh!t
Listen to that one a few times and tell me it's just banal teen rubbish, It's a masterclass in songcrafting.
The video is great work as well.
@@Lion08888 "I love you it's ruining my life"
I think that's the pressure she feels to give, do and deliver more to her fans and supporters.
She's in a tough position. If she wants to gun for the GOAT and break an entertainment industry record or set a milestone, she has to find them in the mirror, her own past success is her nemesis.
Micheal Jordan. Paul McCartney, Oprah and Eminem are the handful of people who would get that, her fans certainly don't. (she's only 34, not even hitting her prime years to produce)
That's because art is not supposed to hit everyone. They target those that can relate to them. If you didn't, then you don't.
I don't understand understand the hype for Eminem either, or Drake... oh maybe they weren't my type of music? maybe they're not my preferred artist and sound? Idk tho
i wouldn’t go as far as calling the album bad, but it definitely was not good. especially by taylor’s standards . it was bland, and the production was repetitive. it also did not take any risks at all, which i can at least give midnights credit for doing. the reviews that ttpd have been fairly accurate and i’m glad that people are finally starting to take off the rose colored lenses for taylor with this album.
The album is “down bad” there you go I fixed it for you
So her song Florida is not her taking risks?
Who's afraid of little old me is not taking risks?
Have you heard any of her songs that sound like these two?
Like y'all will just be saying anything
I can fix him doesn't fit with any of her previous albums... So how didn't she take risks?
@@danielpeters2501I can name multiple songs that sound just like the ones you just named the album took zero risks and lyrically it was not good like what is a tattooed golden retriever you keep lying to yourself because your biased when it comes to her she could write the worst song in human history and you would still try and convince people it’s good
@@HaileyJackson10 you cannot name any song in Taylor's whole discography that sounds like Florida or who's afraid of little old me you'll just be lying to yourself lmao
This album is lyrically her best album lol
Ain't no one's problem that you can't comprehend it
You take one line out of an entire song and say it's bad without the context especially when the point of the song itself was to prove that she wasn't a poet... Lmao
The line was literally a conversation hey had irl so you can't say it's bad cos it literally fits into the narrative of the song
It is YOUR fault that you don't understand the album... Don't come online with your ignorance to act like you know what you're talking about... You'll just be embarrassing yourself 😂
@@HaileyJackson10 you're talking about zero risks yet this is Taylor's most experimental album... Lmao
The album literally has ballads, poppy songs, rnb influences, country influences, western influence(which she's never done before e.g I can fix him and fresh out the slammer), theater sound like Who's afraid of little old me, gospel-like in guilty as sin, soft pop rock in florida.... I can go one but you want to pretend like you know what you're talking about because ''its cool to not like Taylor swift"... Lmao... Pls get over yourself... If you didn't like it that's fine but don't come here and say the album is automatically BAD because YOU don't get the intellectual literature of an album with "poets" in it's title lol
She's literally a billionaire trying to be relatable so bad. I don't know why people give so much attention to this serial dater. She's the most surface level "deep person" I've ever heard. She's like the girl in middleschool who pretends to be emo just to fit in to the "depressed and misunderstood" crowd
Exactly. Really basic girl who does not have an identity so to have one, mimics others. She is relatable bec many girls are like that..basic. Basic for basic
Misogynistic take
Damn I wish you hadn't pulled out the misogyny because "She's literally a billionaire trying to be relatable so bad." is exactly it. No need to use misogyny to attack her when she is literally a billionaire
@magnoliaskogen please explain how my comments were misogynistic. In what way am I expressing hate or prejudice against woman by stating I think Taylor is a poser who acts fake deep like the wannabe emos in middleschool. I only used "she" and "girl" because thats how she identifies
@magnoliaskogen please explain to me how I was being misogynistic. In what way were my comments expressing hatred or prejudice towards women? By stating Taylor acts like a wannabe emo girl from middleschool? Was it saying she's a serial dater? Because I never said she was the only one at fault or men couldn't be serial daters as well. I only used "girl" and "her" because that's how she identifies. There's no ethical way to be a billionaire, so yeah she is a billionare trying to be relatable. Was I supposed to make a disclaimer that I wasn't talking about every woman.
I was actually going to listen the day it dropped (around late afternoon while I was cleaning), but I saw it was a DOUBLE album with over 30 songs...
That just mentally drained me and I opted to wait until later to listen. I still haven't yet haha
It's wild because aside from the Kim K diss and the 1830s lyric; I haven't heard many people talking about the album 😬
same😭 i havent gotten to all of it yet
Her worst album yet
And the lyrics are cringe
Agreed 100%
Every year she gets older and continues to make more teeny bopper heart break music, rinse, repeat and power hungry is every year she becomes more cringe
@@bperez8656why r u hating on her in every comment
@@ankithamankitham4968
Because her fans are some of the most uncultured of any fan base I’ve ever seen
Historically ignorant
I just don't buy her act anymore. Some artists really milk depression and mental illness, when really they just want the attention. She's always the unlucky one in love, but looks so happy when the cameras are out, hugging on an NFL player. 🙄🙄 some folks are just addicted to being relevant...
This is such a stupid statement to make. Did you see her talk about her depressive state everywhere in her interviews? No. She went through a very dark place in 2016 with the whole world going against her on something that was orchestrated to ruin her career. Her image is still suffering as the result & those people responsible had never even apologized. Just because you don't like her it does not mean everything about her has to be something negative. And why would she not look happy in front of the cameras when she's in the public? Should she cry instead? Lmao i swear many of y'all anti-fans can be so dense in the head it's insane.
@@mohamadfirdausbinmat2577 How is her image still suffering from the Kimye drama? She's the most famous artist on the planet and the only thing that is preventing that drama from fading away is Taylor herself, as well as her fans who never bury hatchets. It just feels hella petty from her to mention Kim on TTPD after 8 years of the drama.
Power hungry
She’s becoming bigger than her actual talent
Celebrities don’t look up to her
She’s no musical legend like
Aretha Franklin, Barbara Streisand, Tina Turner, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, Beyoncé. She just isn’t.
She’s not respected by her peers in the same way
She hasn’t been asked to perform in front of world dignitaries
@@LuxminosityBoy
1. you don't get to tell someone (who was wronged) when they have to move on from something that impacted them deeply. people can take as much time as they need to process things.
2. the song isn't even being petty about the drama, it actually thanks the bully for the growing pains and helping her get to the point where she is now?
The problem is there is no payoff for the suffering. She's churning and retreading the same old stuff, although each time it's another boy. Art is about movement. She's stagnant.
I don’t know why I struggle to take her seriously. She’s talented but something about her seems inauthentic and cringe. It’s as if she’s trying to be down with the excessive usage of similes and edgy with the cursing in a Jojo Siwa kinda way.
lmao true. I think it's because she tries to come off as relatable and this is what her fans love about her. they think 'oh she is just like me, so awkward and relatable' and taylor really capitalised on this. her fans love her for exactly the reasons that we criticize her for: her being basic and bland
@@Rebamonica-c6f lol true! She’s the Stanley cup of music
There's no depth or substance to hang on to for posterity. She's all about settling scores.
@@vp4744 yes! I think that's what it is for me with her and Drake. I never understood their mass appeal, even from early on. At least not beyond a certain age. I can understand how teens like both of them and maybe folks in their mid-20s but beyond that I don't know what to tell ya lol.
I’ve been seeing the Drake/Taylor comparisons a lot recently and it couldn’t be more accurate! They’re both aging, but not maturing
Agreed. Being a swiftie, I narratively was interested in what she had to share with us! However, out of the 31 songs, i only like 15 songs and only love 7 songs from start to finish!
As a Swiftie, I'll say that this album was a huge disappointment. I mean, it's not bad but she tried to sell it as her best work ever, the title is way too much for what the lyrics are saying, and no, I don't think they "don't make any sense", cause they do, and they are universal as usual, making it easily relatable to a lot of people, but even with that, the poetry is not that great in here, I think Midnights had better lyrics, Maroon, The Great War and Snow On The Beach easily beat mostbof the lyrics in Poets. About the production, this was the first time an album from her made me go "again?", it's like Midnights but soulless, with only a few exceptions like The Alchemy, Florida!!!, The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived or Who's Afraid Of Little Old Me. I think that the second part of the album is more poetic, but evermore and folklore would win a fight against it. I've been trying to like it more, but I don't think I'll love it that much in the future.
My biggest ick about this album is it feels like she's trying to prove that she's a Poet. Deep english lyrics stitched together to sound "deep" are my problems
Overall I still love the album. It's not for everyone, much like Folklore on release
Can we please acknowledge that her only decent song on the album (Fortnight) is only half way decent because we’ve all heard it before - she’s ripped off Cigarettes After Sex - K. Such lazy song writing and musical production behind this album - not worthy of one Grammy nomination
she’s getting every single grammy known to man though. it’s a generic, shitty, taylor swift album, just like midnights, just like lover, just like reputation, and every other project that won something. it’s getting viewed as a generational work of art by the industry, even though the album sucks ass.
Wdym "only decent song" have you ever actually streamed the album?
Midnights was a stronger body of work.
TTPD is also too long.
Well the bonus songs are completely different to the songs on the main album. They are prettt much two separate albums, she should have just released them as such. There are more folklore style songs on the extended album.
@@Nicole-kc1vxyo someone escort this female😭
1989 is better
I agree
Glad to see someone else didn't enjoy it as much as some of her other work. See, this is me coming off as a normal fan not a diehard Swiftie. If I like something, I'll give it props. However, if someone doesn't live up to the hype or isn't her best work; I'll let ya know!
Despite being 30+ songs...I didn't enjoy enough of this double album to justify the 2 hrs spent listening to it.
I mean could this be Swift fatigue in the same vain as superhero fatigue from Marvel? Could be, but I don't think that's it.
There's been a massive over saturation of Swift over the past couple of years. For good reason I suppose and this isn't me hating on her success. It just seems that a lot of music is coming out from her and quickly. Of course, most of her releases are re-recordings of her original albums.
So, when she finally puts out some new work you'd think it would be great! Midnights and Lover were shorter albums, but there were more songs from them that I loved compared to The Tortured Poets Department.
Considering I never really followed any of the media around her relationship with that one guy that was bringing her bad press; all of those songs about that didn't matter to me at all.
My sister became a fan of Taylor Swift when Love Story came out, and when You Belong With Me came out, I decided to listen to Fearless and found that it was a solid album, as were Speak Now, Red, and 1989 when they came out. Reputation left a bad taste in both my and my sister’s mouths, Taylor had clearly become a sour person and let the album be a bunch of sour grapes, a friend of mine who worked at Walmart at the time told me that the album was having trouble selling at his store, that they were overstocked. Lover didn’t hit the same after Reputation had left such a stain. Listening to evermore and folklore felt like a Renaissance for her, but Midnights and this current album just feel disillusioned. Hopefully, newer artists like Olivia Rodrigo can learn from Taylor’s mistakes.
You just describe my experienc.
Opposite for me
I like her newer albums better... Especially TTPD
How did u feel about debut???
@@bigtimecena3676 another solid album, that one and Fearless perfectly captured teenagehood at that time
And what's with releasing so many variants ? Girl can do better than blocking other artists from getting their moment.
Well said. An honest and unbiased review feels refreshing.
My sister and I listened to the whole album once it came out and both thought that all the songs sounded pretty much the same so we weren't too excited. But since then I've been listening to some songs again individualy when they came up in my yt recommendations and I came to really like them.
I had the same experience on my first listen, there’s just too many songs that all sound too similar. But to be honest I haven’t listened to many of the songs after the initial listen bc it’s just way too much
As someone who likes her music, I 100% agree. This album was so disappointing and I honestly couldn't tell some of the songs apart from others. I just want the rest of the re-recordings
Thank you! So many songs in the last 4 years and the amount of actual good songs is low, too low
Title EATS💯
She’s the Mcdonals of music industry.
She = Gaga selling her music for 99 cents
the most successful, popular and loved fast food restaurant
@@mercedesdrake9113
And the quality is cancer inducing compared to food served decades prior
@@kukumehta8773Gaga is way talented than her. Sorry
@@mercedesdrake9113 you said it: fast food 🤣🤣🤣 swifters are so dumb
She’s gotten so big that she does not seem to care about the actual music
She’s trying hard to be clever and genius and storyteller for her fans
You just don’t get her lyricism, the past 2 albums were about that
She cares, but it’s hard when you are in a position like she is to put out something that everyone would like … impossible really, she has a good work ethic. One break would be benefitial for her ❤
She does, it's just her music nowadays need a deep dive into her "lore"
in my opinion, while writing folklore, she didn’t expect the enormous influence it would have on her career and she was focused more on the arts not the charts with it. later, when she landed back on top bigger than ever, she’s doing absolutely everything she can to stay there
2:59 the way she's so proud of what she's saying, smh, gave me the ick
Lana deserved that Grammy
I personally think that Midnights and TTPD should have been a single album. Both albums feel similar in their writing and production style but there are many songs which could have been left out, keeping a perfect balance of her transition to softer synth-pop songs and the folkmore-like songwriting in the tracklist. This way, the rerecordings could have gotten their time to shine more and the quality of the new studio album would not have suffered.
Me personally I love the album BUT I understand not liking it and it definitely should not get album of the year. Also, it’s another album for the fans/people who know the lore about her.
We need album of the year to go to a diverse or POC voice, or an artist that hasn't had the chance yet.
@@lordfreerealestate8302 Album Of The Year should be given to someone because they earned it. Their skin color should have zero to do with it.
@@PeterGriffin11thank God someone is using their head
Ain't my problem if she won it last year
She should win it this year
Cos so far her album is the best released album
Literally everyone is talking about it whether good or bad lol... That's how you know the art is interesting
i agree, i wish beyonce or ariana win this year because they deserve, they made incredible projects and taylor did a project most for herself i think, as a swiftie, if she wins I'll be disappointed
I’m so sick of the overused word lore
Everything is a lore with Taylor swift fans
Everything is deep lore mystic mystery fantasy secrecy
They’re in on the genius and no one else is
Haven't paid much attention nor thought to Taylor's lyrics until recently. I can see how she takes universal themes and makes them particular to her: look what happened to me. At the other end of the extreme, someone like Billie Eilish, for example, takes her particular experiences and makes them universal. With Taylor you need to be invested in her personal drama.
Once again trying to set two female artists against each other. Pitiful.
@@samsolace What's pitiful about comparing poetic effects, writing styles, and literacy achievements?
Joe deserves better.
No
@@Iris-ls5bgyes
@@lolaeiou in your dreams
If a guy constantly wrote about his exes and publicly bashed them like Taylor does... the internet would be on fire
I just don't like hypocrisy
Guys do write songs about their sweethearts and give their bands names that are metaphors for a penis.
The difference is that fans of male artists generally don't want to know the details of their personal lives and relationships, I mean Bad Medicine came out in 1988 and I just found it was about a sex worker that Richie Sambora was dating.
Never thought to ask or cared that much, it's a banger.
the weeknd wrote three albums about bella hadid.
@@lexwinsch "mic drop"
@@lexwinsch yeah but he basically glorified her and villainized himself, Swift does the opposite.
@@SaVanityVan Its because Taylor Swift is very popular right now and anything popular gets bashed these days.
I am not a fan of her's because i think all of her music sounds the same. Especially this album it is not for me. We know what we are going to get her talking about her exes and her sounding like a teenager. I just can't. ANd if people say they are not a fan of her or her music we are "hating".
no there all differ parallels stories and ideas of her music if you pay attention to the lyrics instead of the production sometimes and the production stays in the album aesthetic they are differ
@@loveirich0 I am just not into her music.
Discussing relationships is not an issue for me. The Weeknd does it well, but his body of work comes across as better produced than Taylor's.
@@TvFanatic-ui3pwthen why don’t you listen to your music and leave Taylor and her fans alone?
@@samsolace Trust me i wish i never have to hear about Taylor and her pathetic grown women acting like teenagers fanbase.
I said this in a forum:
I listened tree albums from The National (as their names have crossed paths in past years). It sounded the same to me, repetitive and monotonous. I didn't understand it and didn't dive deep in.
But their fans like it. And it's fine if Taylor wants to stay in certain type of sound. The thing is that, unlike The National, Taylor it's promoting the albums like a big next thing, like a big disrupt from past works, like a new experience. When it's not.
And their fans complain about Taylor pointed out "female singers are always forced to change to stay relevant".
And that's the truth, for all pop singers. They need to evolve, or change at least if they want to stay at the top. Madonna didn't get to be "The Queen of pop" sitting in her comfort chair.
So Taylor needs to learn that renovate it's not bad, and she has to do it if she wants to keep competing in the game and receive positive feedback.
Or do like The Nationals, became a small singer, releasing music for her and fans and let go from the top.