Xantia are also great cars with alot of similariities, and luckily there are some critical parts being remade that have been missing for awhile. Great to drive.
I had one for 10 years.. the Prv V6 24v engine is fine if its had the ceramic modification to the heads and its fairly easy to tell. The rocker gear is in gold colour and the original which wears away are in steel grey.. the 200bhp performance is very true ..
What a fantastic XM and good luck reviving it! The special number in the door shut is called ORGA number. There are several decoders on the internet to look it up. According to it’s ORGA this XM is built on February 1st 1991.
I'm sure loads of people will have told you, or you just know by now, but the tiny, possibly annoying fan noise, near the roof light, is a tiny fan that draws in cabin air over a sensor for cabin tempurature. I can't remember, but the car may still start with the red PIN light flashing, but it may not, you'd have thought someone would have put it in 'Valet/ Garage mode' where no code is necessary after all this time. The code, 4 numbers, is usually written on a little card in the grey car documnets pack hidden under dashboard in a little cubby. The radio code should be in the as well, drivers aslo tend to scribble it in other areas too, in case it gets lost.
I'm enjoying your Citroën and wish you best of luck. I owned two Volvos with the PRV engine and never had any problems with the PRVs other than being a bit on the thirsty side (could have more to do with the driver's foot). We kept the Volvo wagon the longest, drove it the hardest, and racked up 180,000 miles trouble free. I heard about the cam early on and used only synthetic lube, changed frequently, and kept my fingers crossed.
Id like to tell you one thing... This car can turn amazing if you try to make it look a little more like a delorean . Its an amazing desing and if you cut a little the pointy front it can look pretty sporty
Nice! As a kid in Townsville, Australia, someone donated the English "Car" magazine to my school library every month. Because of that I grew up reading about cars like this. They seemed amazing yet also poor value compared to the Ford and GM sedans that were most common here at the time. Of course, in time I came to question my earlier evaluation of the relative merits of these different design concepts :-).
I've had 19 XM's, I'm not sure how that happened, mainly V6's. Everyone loves the original dashboard, which makes people like the early cars, but, you really need to overlook it, as the later cars are much nicer, '97 to the end. The build & materials are all better then the early cars, even the seats are more comfortable & they tend not to smeel like the earlier cars can do. I've had one of the early 24v's, as shown here, which could blow up or catch fire, they also needed a wiring change under the bonnet to avoid this. Mine was H564GDP, a burgundy press car from 1990, it was lovely & pretty nippy, but could also just stop when you were driving, hilarious going around a roundabout!! If you can, get a 99/ 00 V6 24v, that's been looked after with low miles & you'll have a nice time; if you want an even better hydropneumatic experience, by a C6, they're amazing, but cost even more to look after.
Hi, you do as you wish we will live with everything, no problem. Always very interesting projects. A mate of mine had an XM, When he took it for MOT the mechanic had never seen one and was clueless, so he passed it as he did not know what was right and what was wrong because it drove there and the brakes worked.. Many thanks from UK.
Weird goofy cars. The French always insist on doing everything different from the rest of the world, sometimes to great success, other times, confounding the whole world. Sometimes it seems like French companies intentionally try to do everything in the automotive, motorcycle, and moped world, completely different to everyone else, out of spite. While companies like Puch made mopeds with their drive system safely inside the engine case, Motobecane, Peugeot, and Solex, all have external drive-lines. I have a friend who's into Peugeot, Motobecane, and MBK mopeds, and he's bumped his leg on all of their belt drive systems, at one time or other, a couple times getting hurt. He still loves playing with all three of those kinds of bikes, even though all three kinds are a pain in the ass at times.
@@DetroitMicroSound My neighbor is a Citroën factory trained mechanic. There's a number of dead Citroën cars in various states of duress sprinkled about the neighborhood awaiting parts that make for an interesting walk.
I have at least six Citroën and among them three XM, two with V6 and one CT Turbo. I do wish you the best of luck waking up this one - it will be enjoyable. Godt tur med vognen!!
I only had 4 cars in my life. 1 BX 14E and 3 XM’s. My present one is a dark green metallic ‘96 Turbo CT but with the old single spoke steering wheel, the early nose grille and extra aerodynamic Seduction wheelcaps. So not totally original but as far as I am it’s the perfect mix. The XM is much better then it’s reputation. Very few rust problems and on the later cars the only electronic problems tend to come from the luxury gadgets. The important electronics, like the suspension system, however tend to be bombproof.
Have owned two XM over the years - a manual, fully loaded Gen 1 with full leather and all the toys and a poverty spec Gen 2 auto. Both 2.1 TD. I only regret selling the Gen 1 because it was like driving a limo.
You are sort of correct with cam and oilway issues but those I believe are only issues with Volvos and DeLoreans (they used Volvo based engines). Volvo also redesigned those oilways on the later cars (I have no idea what was the model). These late PRVs are like tanks IMHO but they still have their own issues. Early 3.0 PRVs suffered from piston slap when the engine is cold and that was solved with longer piston skirts. ZPJ4 (24v) is really known for failing lifters and they were upgraded from OGRA 5446 onwards so it might or might not have newer ceramic lifter fitted. If you want I can try do dig more info of the lifters, pistons etc.
I have owned a Citroen XM V6 "Exclusive". It was a amazing car, the 4 speed automatic is like butter in the shifting, the suspension is like floating on clouds and the engine was amazing. The one i hade was over 340 000km and the engine and everything was in what i can say "mint" condition. Alot of owners had to replace bits of the steel thorugh time (it is a french car) but the condition was good and i have never had a engine that had that many miles and still puled strong and always started "happy". I had 1 of 11 in whole of Sweden in the specification i had. It had alot of funny electrical functions and weird stuff. It is now sold, but i can see that it passed swedish car inspection with flying colours and is still on the road! I have never seen another one like that one, and the chanses of that is almost impossible i would believe. (I couldent keep it as i have no garage and these cars need alot of love, espacially the "7 point" hydralic suspension. But a citroen lover got it and restored it even more, so i am really happy it got a nice home). Great content as always! So fun with all the diffrent cars you bring on the channel, Saab, Citroen, Lada, Lancia and more. It shows that you want to learn more and like the new challenges :). Have a nice weekend!
@@SeasideGarage I had the 12v version on 167hk. I know tho the vacum system can be really angry, there is allt to control haha. Mine actually had electronic braking when on cruise. If i where going down a hill the car would brake automaticly haha. maybe the one you are working on had this to?
I have just taken over my father's 94 ct turbo 2litre, which he has had for 20+ years . I've just done a major clean on it, spending 2 days just to peel off the paint protecting film. It still starts immediately from cold or hot and the suspension is up pretty quickly.The leather and interior is immaculate apart from a couple of small cracks here and there.I was going to sell it but now I'm having second thoughts.
I have the same and had it fully restored by Q&K Citroën Classics in Poland. Most important: - Change fuel lines!!! - Change electric wires (insulation falls apart) and relais.
Agree these look awesome. So futuristic even today. They go dirt cheap here in Australia. Not many about but no one really wants them. Looking at comments below their day is very near where they are more appreciated. Hope you get it going.
Don´t worry about the engine. The V6´s in the XM had all the "Volvo errors" fixed. There were a few problems but those engines was fixed under warranty or otherwise wouldn´t last long. A good thing is that you hear the fuel pump. That means that both the pump and also the ignition module/amplifier (on the battery tray) is ok. The ignition module is BTW the same as on Volvo 940. Also you have good function on the engine related relays in front of the "computer box" behind the right headlamp. What I´m trying to say is that by hearing the fuel pump, it´s a good chance it is a runner. Well... Then there is the matter of the starter. -Guess what just started to act up on mine. Yep. The starter. It´s a bit fiddly but not impossible. You find it under the front exhaust manifold. Also don´t worry about the play in the steering. The Diravi is expected to do that with no pressure. What you do need to worry about is the electrics. or really not to worry, but you have to know this. The electrical systems is actually really good with much more reliable components than later XM´s. But what they DID do wrong on cars from 89-92 is the ground connections. Look behind the headlamps. If you see white plastic connectors to the body it´s the bad ones. And sitting for twenty years, this one might have not been fixed. It´s a simple fix. Just remove the white connectors and install ring terminals. It´s self-explanatory when you see it. One thing that have driven early owners mad is the Hydractive system acting up and getting stuck on hard suspension. Don´t worry about that either. If you share a video about any hydractive problems, look for my commenting. I have a rather complete "database" in my head about it. Of course, before doing any troubleshooting, all spheres must be verified. There are six for suspension and two accumulators. Good luck! And take it slow. Don´t look at it as a "BX++". It´s more like working on a supercar. Exotic stuff and many many things you can do very wrong. But do it right and it will be fun to work with. And remember that they are surprisingly well built and reliable. I wouldn´t be surprised att all if it had a simple fault and then - after a big service - would be totally reliable. Oh, just remembered an important thing. Check the return hose from the pressure regulator to the LHM-reservoir. When it goes it pumps a lot of LHM on hot exhaust. Don´t ask how I know...
Why are the electrical components of early XMs more reliable? Also, do you mean until the new steering wheel redesign or until the full restyling? Didn't they try to fix the electrical problems with the 1994 restyling?
If my memory serves me right the fan in the ceiling next to the dome light is for the interior temperature sensor for the climate control system. The bearing of said fan will also sound awful cause water gets in it through the base of the antenna. All of this is if this car is anything like a Peugeot 406.
@@SeasideGarage The good news is though the water doesn't only come out of the dome light when you take a turn but it also gradually travels down the antenna cable itself rotting it out thus rendering it useless. :D Again 406 things but they must share a similar design in many regards. Should this be the case the fix is some really elastic silicone on the base. No point even buying new parts.
Overhead, the noise is coming from a tiny fan that draws ambient cabin air over a temperature sensor for the automatic climate control. My Nissan Z had the same design. A loud radio fixes a myriad of annoyances.
back when Citroen made weird and interesting cars. Loved that screen boot up animation. the one that told you your door was open in case you forgot about it
I had been hoping to review an XM recently but the owner ended up.selling the car as it had spent more time in the garage than on the road. These really are complex cars and as he didn't have a local Citroen specialist he lost faith in the car. Hopefully I will some day still get to try one out for myself.
You probably know but the factory code is 1111. If someone have changed it, which is very likely, it won't work but you can give it a try. This code is stored on the engine ECU and if are not able to find it you will have to find another ECU.
A couple of years ago a mint XM came up for sale here near me in Perth, Australia. They were never sold here so this one was a personal import from the UK. It was cheap too. However I don't have the mechanical knowledge for such a complicated car and without that it would be a nightmare to look after properly so I let the opportunity go sadly as I have always loved XMs and it was such a stroke of luck even to find one here let alone in such good condition and for such a good price.
C6 is closer to Peugeot. Its hydraulic system is cheap (no LHM, separation of brake and suspension circuits [which is a big mistake]...). Unfortunately, this car announces the end of the real Citroëns. XM and Xantia remain the last real Citroëns
I test-drove a XM when I first came to Australia almost twenty years ago. I quite liked it but the seller basically said I should not buy it because it was not reliable. That is a strangest seller ever. I was also interested of couple of XMs I saw at the garage in England where I got my Xantia maintained but the mechanic told me to keep the Xantia. 😂
It was a pain in the arse. My alarm kept going off despite inputting the code on the keypad. There was a socket on the windscreen scuttle that disabled the alarm thank goodness.
The bx 4x4 is a fantastic car I was lusting after a D reg Red 19rd wagon but all all this extra stuff comes at a cost people are looking for the most car for the least cost. Everyone around me are looking and buying Dacia now because compared with other cars ford vauxhall mazda etc they are so much cheaper.
The prices for the V6 XM here in the UK have gone through the roof, they went through the dirt cheap phase relatively recently (around 10ish years ago), but shot right back up again, so even if it was a complete shed, it'd still be worth buying (so long as it's cheap!) just to flip after a good wash and polish like this one got, but of course, running and driving makes it more valuable for sure... :)
I grew up in Citroen family since a little kid with 2CVs, BXs etc. My first own car was Peugeot 406 with that code thingy on left hand side of the steering column that was on secret flap down compartment...you felt a bit of a James Bond or Jason Statham in Transporter to dial in that code and your friends would ask wtf is that haha
Gauges showing stuff like oil temp have an habit of generating unnecessary worries. While Idiot lights make people just drive without any worries. No lights flashing.. pedal to the metal. 😄😄
1st series XMs have the best look. I had a 1990 V6 Si (with cloth interior) and while it was a nice car when it was running well, it was plagued with all sorts of problems from noisy camshafts, regular hydraulic leaks, electrical glitches. It got written off when a car ran into the back of me and tore the bumper off. Even though it was repairable, the insurance company deemed it uneconomical to repair as that's what they're like. and I got a 2.0SEi which was automatic, then for it's third gearbox change I had it converted to manual. The funny thing with the air con on the SEi model is it's NOT running when the light is ON. RHD models don't have DIRAVI which is a shame - I was expecting it as I had a CX 25 GTi Turbo 2 before the XM which was a much nicer car. I've only ever seen one 24v XM - it was the same dark blue metallic as my V6 Si and the owner was on the same ferry from Le Harve to Portsmouth and told me to park it in the ferry on the lorry deck as that has a flat floor. The ferry port never even mentioned I needed to do that. Once we got off the ferry at Portsmouth, we raced each other up the M275.
The CX is a much simpler car than the XM as most of its features are still mostly mechanical rather than electronically or computer controlled. Although when it comes to the body, the CX has the front wings welded on as part of the structure of the bodywork rather than them being detachable and the steel panels aren't treated to be as rust resistant as the XM.
CX for definite as they have the better comfort, ride and handling, even though the XM is more practical being a hatchback and has better ventilation. The XM's headlights are dreadful as switching from full beam to dipped is almost like driving with just the sidelights which is marginally better than driving without the headlights on at all. And visibility when reversing in the XM isn't great compared to the CX.
There was a service setting for the keypad immobiliser so the owner wouldn't have to give the garage their code. This was generally 1111. Hopefully when it was parked it was put into service mode. Upndown did do a video on how to disable the keypad immobiliser on the Tractiva.
If I remember correctly you can use code 0001 as well, but it's been a while since I had to deal with a Peugeot/ Citroen with that keypad immobiliser!!
haha yes!!... I am actually trying to NOT get more citroens because this is turning into a citroen show... but I am not very good at avoiding them apparently!...
Wow - vildt at se bilen komme i live igen. Det var min farfars gamle vogn. Får selv snart en af hans gamle 2cv’er, som jeg skal prøve at sætte i stand efter 12 år stillestående! Han har jo ca 25 gamle 2cver derude, dog i meget varierende stand. Havde været vildt sjovt at se dig prøve at få liv i en!
Quist! :D Jeg har netop for et par uger siden købt lidt dele fra jer til min Mehari... ! Det er sgu en ære at få lov at skrue på den her bil... det er virkelig en særlig bil med en særlig historie.. Jeg kommer gerne og laver en Will it run video på et eller andet sjovt i har stående! gerne noget af det helt gamle! :D Skriv evt via mail eller Instagram :)
Oooh yes, splendid. Hope its a runner with that easily compromised engine.... Too bad it isn't yours to keep. Or luckily as it would stress your wallet seriously with running costs....
hey jeg er nød til at skrive på dansk denne gang 😀 først vil jeg sige, flot XM 😀 kører selv i min nr 3 XM. har haft haft en 2,1td fra 1990, som var bygget om til diesel fra en 2,0i benzin og synet og godkendt med det. og en 3,0v6 aut. fra 1993, den jeg kører i til dagligt er en y4 (serie 2) 2,5 td fra 1999 en af 2 indreg. i DK. den du har der er en y3 (serie 1) ses tydeligt på det panel under vinduesvisker, det er "lige" hvor det på y4 har en helt anden form. koden på tastaturet er typisk 1111. og er til startspærre. det er den/var den på min. er ikke 100% om det også er det på y3, men det mener jeg. den kan dog kobles fra, når bilen er startet kan man pille stikket på undersiden af tastaturet. fun fact. det er den eneste bilmodel jeg har mødt hvor der er varme i ALLE sæder, for OG bagsæder 😁 har faktisk en XM mere til at stå, også en 2,5td fra 1997, med 120xxx km på uret, dog med tyske papirer. gad virkelig godt se den og de andre citroéner i virkeligheden deler gerne den smule viden jeg har 😀
Hvor fedt! Har aldrig selv kørt i en XM endnu... eller jo som passagere som barn men ellers ikke.. Tak for infoen! det hjælper alt samme... Jeg viser gerne samlingen frem ved nærmere aftale. :)
First the Visa, now this! You're ticking off all the good ones!
YES!... but I also have a Austin Metro to balance stuff out...
Xantia are also great cars with alot of similariities, and luckily there are some critical parts being remade that have been missing for awhile. Great to drive.
If you have any questions please ask me. I know most of the weaknesses of this engine/car. Recently changed the headgaskets on one.
Great to know! Thanks!
I had one for 10 years.. the Prv V6 24v engine is fine if its had the ceramic modification to the heads and its fairly easy to tell. The rocker gear is in gold colour and the original which wears away are in steel grey.. the 200bhp performance is very true ..
What a fantastic XM and good luck reviving it! The special number in the door shut is called ORGA number. There are several decoders on the internet to look it up. According to it’s ORGA this XM is built on February 1st 1991.
Citroen really were the best at luxury and class! What a fantastic find
Beautiful body styling on the XM. Really attractive car.
I also have a Citroen Xm V6 24v y3 beautiful car! I hope there will be another driving video.
I'm sure loads of people will have told you, or you just know by now, but the tiny, possibly annoying fan noise, near the roof light, is a tiny fan that draws in cabin air over a sensor for cabin tempurature. I can't remember, but the car may still start with the red PIN light flashing, but it may not, you'd have thought someone would have put it in 'Valet/ Garage mode' where no code is necessary after all this time. The code, 4 numbers, is usually written on a little card in the grey car documnets pack hidden under dashboard in a little cubby. The radio code should be in the as well, drivers aslo tend to scribble it in other areas too, in case it gets lost.
Awesome. I learned to drive in a Bx and remember my instructor salivating at an XM the first day we saw one.😊
I'm enjoying your Citroën and wish you best of luck. I owned two Volvos with the PRV engine and never had any problems with the PRVs other than being a bit on the thirsty side (could have more to do with the driver's foot). We kept the Volvo wagon the longest, drove it the hardest, and racked up 180,000 miles trouble free. I heard about the cam early on and used only synthetic lube, changed frequently, and kept my fingers crossed.
What an interesting find, this is the first XM I've seen for years.
Because they were awful. I had a DS23, a Cx25 and an XM 3.0. Two out of the three still exist. Guess which one went to car heaven at 10 years old?
Id like to tell you one thing... This car can turn amazing if you try to make it look a little more like a delorean . Its an amazing desing and if you cut a little the pointy front it can look pretty sporty
Nice! As a kid in Townsville, Australia, someone donated the English "Car" magazine to my school library every month. Because of that I grew up reading about cars like this. They seemed amazing yet also poor value compared to the Ford and GM sedans that were most common here at the time. Of course, in time I came to question my earlier evaluation of the relative merits of these different design concepts :-).
WOW!! What a beauty... I had a Xantia years ago.. But always wanted an XM. ... and still do want one . but they are very few and far between now..
I've had 19 XM's, I'm not sure how that happened, mainly V6's. Everyone loves the original dashboard, which makes people like the early cars, but, you really need to overlook it, as the later cars are much nicer, '97 to the end. The build & materials are all better then the early cars, even the seats are more comfortable & they tend not to smeel like the earlier cars can do. I've had one of the early 24v's, as shown here, which could blow up or catch fire, they also needed a wiring change under the bonnet to avoid this. Mine was H564GDP, a burgundy press car from 1990, it was lovely & pretty nippy, but could also just stop when you were driving, hilarious going around a roundabout!! If you can, get a 99/ 00 V6 24v, that's been looked after with low miles & you'll have a nice time; if you want an even better hydropneumatic experience, by a C6, they're amazing, but cost even more to look after.
Hi, you do as you wish we will live with everything, no problem. Always very interesting projects. A mate of mine had an XM, When he took it for MOT the mechanic had never seen one and was clueless, so he passed it as he did not know what was right and what was wrong because it drove there and the brakes worked.. Many thanks from UK.
Weird goofy cars. The French always insist on doing everything different from the rest of the world, sometimes to great success, other times, confounding the whole world. Sometimes it seems like French companies intentionally try to do everything in the automotive, motorcycle, and moped world, completely different to everyone else, out of spite. While companies like Puch made mopeds with their drive system safely inside the engine case, Motobecane, Peugeot, and Solex, all have external drive-lines. I have a friend who's into Peugeot, Motobecane, and MBK mopeds, and he's bumped his leg on all of their belt drive systems, at one time or other, a couple times getting hurt. He still loves playing with all three of those kinds of bikes, even though all three kinds are a pain in the ass at times.
I wish the MOT could be bafooned where I live.
@@DetroitMicroSound I owned a beautiful Motobecane and loved it. I gave it to friend who needed transportation and he still uses it.
@@DetroitMicroSound My neighbor is a Citroën factory trained mechanic. There's a number of dead Citroën cars in various states of duress sprinkled about the neighborhood awaiting parts that make for an interesting walk.
Always had a soft spot for these cars. Super comfy in the back.
I have at least six Citroën and among them three XM, two with V6 and one CT Turbo. I do wish you the best of luck waking up this one - it will be enjoyable. Godt tur med vognen!!
I only had 4 cars in my life. 1 BX 14E and 3 XM’s. My present one is a dark green metallic ‘96 Turbo CT but with the old single spoke steering wheel, the early nose grille and extra aerodynamic Seduction wheelcaps. So not totally original but as far as I am it’s the perfect mix. The XM is much better then it’s reputation. Very few rust problems and on the later cars the only electronic problems tend to come from the luxury gadgets. The important electronics, like the suspension system, however tend to be bombproof.
Have owned two XM over the years - a manual, fully loaded Gen 1 with full leather and all the toys and a poverty spec Gen 2 auto. Both 2.1 TD. I only regret selling the Gen 1 because it was like driving a limo.
Again a great project !Although it’s not yours! Amazing that the electronics are in such good shape! Looking forward to the next video!
You are sort of correct with cam and oilway issues but those I believe are only issues with Volvos and DeLoreans (they used Volvo based engines). Volvo also redesigned those oilways on the later cars (I have no idea what was the model).
These late PRVs are like tanks IMHO but they still have their own issues. Early 3.0 PRVs suffered from piston slap when the engine is cold and that was solved with longer piston skirts. ZPJ4 (24v) is really known for failing lifters and they were upgraded from OGRA 5446 onwards so it might or might not have newer ceramic lifter fitted. If you want I can try do dig more info of the lifters, pistons etc.
I have owned a Citroen XM V6 "Exclusive". It was a amazing car, the 4 speed automatic is like butter in the shifting, the suspension is like floating on clouds and the engine was amazing.
The one i hade was over 340 000km and the engine and everything was in what i can say "mint" condition. Alot of owners had to replace bits of the steel thorugh time (it is a french car) but the condition was good and i have never had a engine that had that many miles and still puled strong and always started "happy".
I had 1 of 11 in whole of Sweden in the specification i had. It had alot of funny electrical functions and weird stuff. It is now sold, but i can see that it passed swedish car inspection with flying colours and is still on the road! I have never seen another one like that one, and the chanses of that is almost impossible i would believe. (I couldent keep it as i have no garage and these cars need alot of love, espacially the "7 point" hydralic suspension. But a citroen lover got it and restored it even more, so i am really happy it got a nice home).
Great content as always! So fun with all the diffrent cars you bring on the channel, Saab, Citroen, Lada, Lancia and more. It shows that you want to learn more and like the new challenges :).
Have a nice weekend!
Thanks! Was yours also the 24v?
Impressive with that kind of milage!
@@SeasideGarage I had the 12v version on 167hk. I know tho the vacum system can be really angry, there is allt to control haha.
Mine actually had electronic braking when on cruise. If i where going down a hill the car would brake automaticly haha. maybe the one you are working on had this to?
Interesting!
I have just taken over my father's 94 ct turbo 2litre, which he has had for 20+ years .
I've just done a major clean on it, spending 2 days just to peel off the paint protecting film.
It still starts immediately from cold or hot and the suspension is up pretty quickly.The leather and interior is immaculate apart from a couple of small cracks here and there.I was going to sell it but now I'm having second thoughts.
Keep it... In a couple of years I think these will become pretty expensive.
I have the same and had it fully restored by Q&K Citroën Classics in Poland. Most important: - Change fuel lines!!! - Change electric wires (insulation falls apart) and relais.
Niiice! This is going to be very interesting. Amazing cars.
This is lovely
Agree these look awesome. So futuristic even today. They go dirt cheap here in Australia. Not many about but no one really wants them. Looking at comments below their day is very near where they are more appreciated. Hope you get it going.
Don´t worry about the engine. The V6´s in the XM had all the "Volvo errors" fixed. There were a few problems but those engines was fixed under warranty or otherwise wouldn´t last long. A good thing is that you hear the fuel pump. That means that both the pump and also the ignition module/amplifier (on the battery tray) is ok. The ignition module is BTW the same as on Volvo 940. Also you have good function on the engine related relays in front of the "computer box" behind the right headlamp. What I´m trying to say is that by hearing the fuel pump, it´s a good chance it is a runner. Well... Then there is the matter of the starter. -Guess what just started to act up on mine. Yep. The starter. It´s a bit fiddly but not impossible. You find it under the front exhaust manifold.
Also don´t worry about the play in the steering. The Diravi is expected to do that with no pressure.
What you do need to worry about is the electrics. or really not to worry, but you have to know this. The electrical systems is actually really good with much more reliable components than later XM´s. But what they DID do wrong on cars from 89-92 is the ground connections. Look behind the headlamps. If you see white plastic connectors to the body it´s the bad ones. And sitting for twenty years, this one might have not been fixed. It´s a simple fix. Just remove the white connectors and install ring terminals. It´s self-explanatory when you see it.
One thing that have driven early owners mad is the Hydractive system acting up and getting stuck on hard suspension. Don´t worry about that either. If you share a video about any hydractive problems, look for my commenting. I have a rather complete "database" in my head about it. Of course, before doing any troubleshooting, all spheres must be verified. There are six for suspension and two accumulators.
Good luck! And take it slow. Don´t look at it as a "BX++". It´s more like working on a supercar. Exotic stuff and many many things you can do very wrong. But do it right and it will be fun to work with. And remember that they are surprisingly well built and reliable. I wouldn´t be surprised att all if it had a simple fault and then - after a big service - would be totally reliable.
Oh, just remembered an important thing. Check the return hose from the pressure regulator to the LHM-reservoir. When it goes it pumps a lot of LHM on hot exhaust. Don´t ask how I know...
Great advice! I am from now on out pretending to work on a supercar! its easier to forgive it for being quite fiddly to work on that way! :D
Why are the electrical components of early XMs more reliable? Also, do you mean until the new steering wheel redesign or until the full restyling? Didn't they try to fix the electrical problems with the 1994 restyling?
If my memory serves me right the fan in the ceiling next to the dome light is for the interior temperature sensor for the climate control system. The bearing of said fan will also sound awful cause water gets in it through the base of the antenna. All of this is if this car is anything like a Peugeot 406.
Thats brilliant! apart from the water thing... thats just french
@@SeasideGarage The good news is though the water doesn't only come out of the dome light when you take a turn but it also gradually travels down the antenna cable itself rotting it out thus rendering it useless. :D Again 406 things but they must share a similar design in many regards. Should this be the case the fix is some really elastic silicone on the base. No point even buying new parts.
Overhead, the noise is coming from a tiny fan that draws ambient cabin air over a temperature sensor for the automatic climate control. My Nissan Z had the same design. A loud radio fixes a myriad of annoyances.
:O how cool is that! of course!
back when Citroen made weird and interesting cars. Loved that screen boot up animation. the one that told you your door was open in case you forgot about it
I had been hoping to review an XM recently but the owner ended up.selling the car as it had spent more time in the garage than on the road. These really are complex cars and as he didn't have a local Citroen specialist he lost faith in the car.
Hopefully I will some day still get to try one out for myself.
Fabulous. I have had a couple of c5's in my time. My favourite was a mk1 2.2 exclusive. So wish I had kept it. Great videos, well done.
You probably know but the factory code is 1111. If someone have changed it, which is very likely, it won't work but you can give it a try. This code is stored on the engine ECU and if are not able to find it you will have to find another ECU.
Thanks!
I never knew these were so advanced for their time! Very cool, will be great to follow, hopefully it’s worth saving!
Good chase scene with an xm in the film “ ronin”.
I had a 12V and it was awesome...here in Padborg it would cross the speed bumps with more than 80 km/h.
Fantastic, cant wait to hear that V6 running. Maybe you should also change the timing belt before starting.
it´s chain driven if remember correctly
Chain... (YAY)
@@SeasideGarage lucky you! So this is an easy one :-)
nice project/ looking forward to this one
A couple of years ago a mint XM came up for sale here near me in Perth, Australia. They were never sold here so this one was a personal import from the UK. It was cheap too. However I don't have the mechanical knowledge for such a complicated car and without that it would be a nightmare to look after properly so I let the opportunity go sadly as I have always loved XMs and it was such a stroke of luck even to find one here let alone in such good condition and for such a good price.
Last real big Citroen is the C6. I'd love an XM but keeping it on the road is a full time job.
C6 is closer to Peugeot. Its hydraulic system is cheap (no LHM, separation of brake and suspension circuits [which is a big mistake]...). Unfortunately, this car announces the end of the real Citroëns.
XM and Xantia remain the last real Citroëns
The fan noise above you is the climate control fan puling air around a temp sensor to get the cab temp.
Wonderful! Peak France.
Totally!
luxury motor,, that armrest is so needless being electric,,but fabulous
I test-drove a XM when I first came to Australia almost twenty years ago. I quite liked it but the seller basically said I should not buy it because it was not reliable. That is a strangest seller ever.
I was also interested of couple of XMs I saw at the garage in England where I got my Xantia maintained but the mechanic told me to keep the Xantia. 😂
The zantia also had that security code system .
It was a pain in the arse. My alarm kept going off despite inputting the code on the keypad. There was a socket on the windscreen scuttle that disabled the alarm thank goodness.
I love Citroens from those days. It is such a shame the current model range is so ordinary.
The bx 4x4 is a fantastic car I was lusting after a D reg Red 19rd wagon but all all this extra stuff comes at a cost people are looking for the most car for the least cost. Everyone around me are looking and buying Dacia now because compared with other cars ford vauxhall mazda etc they are so much cheaper.
Wow, what a car!!
The prices for the V6 XM here in the UK have gone through the roof, they went through the dirt cheap phase relatively recently (around 10ish years ago), but shot right back up again, so even if it was a complete shed, it'd still be worth buying (so long as it's cheap!) just to flip after a good wash and polish like this one got, but of course, running and driving makes it more valuable for sure... :)
Interesting! they are not worth much here... yet... but I can see the prices rise in the rest of Europe for sure!
Don’t forget a lot of this cars interior was also a Peugeot 605 .
i had a 1990 2.0 liter xm 80.000km got it for spares in 1999, had engine on bench started to turn over engine by hand timing belt snapped
The last big real Citroën? For me that’s the C6…
Tend to agree!
I grew up in Citroen family since a little kid with 2CVs, BXs etc. My first own car was Peugeot 406 with that code thingy on left hand side of the steering column that was on secret flap down compartment...you felt a bit of a James Bond or Jason Statham in Transporter to dial in that code and your friends would ask wtf is that haha
Nice rare car, don't forget to check there isn't a mouse nest in the air filter intake Seppo.
Hahah! Will do Shaun! Fool me once! stupid mice...
@@SeasideGarage Once bitten twice shy.
"we have a button and some wires left over. What shall we do? "
"Is that arm rest manually raised and lowered.....................................? "
Haha Yes exactly! It would be faster and easier to use with just a regular hand operated one.. but No!... le button!
How do you manage to find all those cool cars i Danmark? Crazy
Denmark is a farm country!... not so much anymore though... but all the barns.... they are not empty!
Great video
Gauges showing stuff like oil temp have an habit of generating unnecessary worries. While Idiot lights make people just drive without any worries. No lights flashing.. pedal to the metal. 😄😄
but used right you can catch stuff so early! like overheating, coolant air pockets and so on.... Im a gauge man....
that really was a surprise. an XM? with working electrics??
1st series XMs have the best look. I had a 1990 V6 Si (with cloth interior) and while it was a nice car when it was running well, it was plagued with all sorts of problems from noisy camshafts, regular hydraulic leaks, electrical glitches. It got written off when a car ran into the back of me and tore the bumper off. Even though it was repairable, the insurance company deemed it uneconomical to repair as that's what they're like. and I got a 2.0SEi which was automatic, then for it's third gearbox change I had it converted to manual. The funny thing with the air con on the SEi model is it's NOT running when the light is ON.
RHD models don't have DIRAVI which is a shame - I was expecting it as I had a CX 25 GTi Turbo 2 before the XM which was a much nicer car.
I've only ever seen one 24v XM - it was the same dark blue metallic as my V6 Si and the owner was on the same ferry from Le Harve to Portsmouth and told me to park it in the ferry on the lorry deck as that has a flat floor. The ferry port never even mentioned I needed to do that. Once we got off the ferry at Portsmouth, we raced each other up the M275.
Such a shame they didn't care to make the DIRAVI work in right hand drive.... and very french
Was the CX a much nicer car overall or maintenance wise?
The CX is a much simpler car than the XM as most of its features are still mostly mechanical rather than electronically or computer controlled. Although when it comes to the body, the CX has the front wings welded on as part of the structure of the bodywork rather than them being detachable and the steel panels aren't treated to be as rust resistant as the XM.
@@chrisperyagh And if it wasn't for maintenance which one would you prefer?
CX for definite as they have the better comfort, ride and handling, even though the XM is more practical being a hatchback and has better ventilation.
The XM's headlights are dreadful as switching from full beam to dipped is almost like driving with just the sidelights which is marginally better than driving without the headlights on at all. And visibility when reversing in the XM isn't great compared to the CX.
There was a service setting for the keypad immobiliser so the owner wouldn't have to give the garage their code.
This was generally 1111.
Hopefully when it was parked it was put into service mode.
Upndown did do a video on how to disable the keypad immobiliser on the Tractiva.
If I remember correctly you can use code 0001 as well, but it's been a while since I had to deal with a Peugeot/ Citroen with that keypad immobiliser!!
Thanks!!
Super spændende, jeg håbede bilen ville ende hos dig. Glæder mig til at følge med.
Det er helt vildt spændende!
Lovely cars, but they broke so easily. I used to work at a dealer but all we saw were XM's breaking all the time!
Another Citroën! 😅 i see a pattern here and I like it 😊
haha yes!!... I am actually trying to NOT get more citroens because this is turning into a citroen show... but I am not very good at avoiding them apparently!...
@@SeasideGarage It's a virus, a french one There's no cure, ask me.... 😂
That’s the rarest 3.0 24v
wow!
There is a small fan above your head
It has probably got dust in it
Citroen like a box of chocolates you never know what flavour you’re going to get next, by the great prophet Forrest Gump
True!
You have my attention.
I need myself some sweet, sweet XM-loooove
Wow - vildt at se bilen komme i live igen. Det var min farfars gamle vogn.
Får selv snart en af hans gamle 2cv’er, som jeg skal prøve at sætte i stand efter 12 år stillestående!
Han har jo ca 25 gamle 2cver derude, dog i meget varierende stand.
Havde været vildt sjovt at se dig prøve at få liv i en!
Quist! :D
Jeg har netop for et par uger siden købt lidt dele fra jer til min Mehari... !
Det er sgu en ære at få lov at skrue på den her bil... det er virkelig en særlig bil med en særlig historie..
Jeg kommer gerne og laver en Will it run video på et eller andet sjovt i har stående! gerne noget af det helt gamle! :D
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If the engine is toast, I know where there is an abandoned XM V6 on Als.
Uuuuuh.... also 24v?
Hele vejen rundt en mega fed bil.. Men jeg skruer kun selv i mine biler. Og derfor vil jeg aldrig eje sådan en😂😂
Men 100p en af kongerne i citroen 👌
Oooh yes, splendid. Hope its a runner with that easily compromised engine.... Too bad it isn't yours to keep. Or luckily as it would stress your wallet seriously with running costs....
Y'know. Your stealing Hubnut's dinner money :-D
Who? 🤭
Haha I am so far behind on him... Loves all of his car reviews... what a database of knowledge!
hey jeg er nød til at skrive på dansk denne gang 😀
først vil jeg sige, flot XM 😀
kører selv i min nr 3 XM. har haft haft en 2,1td fra 1990, som var bygget om til diesel fra en 2,0i benzin og synet og godkendt med det. og en 3,0v6 aut. fra 1993, den jeg kører i til dagligt er en y4 (serie 2) 2,5 td fra 1999 en af 2 indreg. i DK.
den du har der er en y3 (serie 1) ses tydeligt på det panel under vinduesvisker, det er "lige" hvor det på y4 har en helt anden form.
koden på tastaturet er typisk 1111. og er til startspærre. det er den/var den på min. er ikke 100% om det også er det på y3, men det mener jeg.
den kan dog kobles fra, når bilen er startet kan man pille stikket på undersiden af tastaturet.
fun fact. det er den eneste bilmodel jeg har mødt hvor der er varme i ALLE sæder, for OG bagsæder 😁
har faktisk en XM mere til at stå, også en 2,5td fra 1997, med 120xxx km på uret, dog med tyske papirer.
gad virkelig godt se den og de andre citroéner i virkeligheden
deler gerne den smule viden jeg har 😀
Hvor fedt!
Har aldrig selv kørt i en XM endnu... eller jo som passagere som barn men ellers ikke..
Tak for infoen! det hjælper alt samme...
Jeg viser gerne samlingen frem ved nærmere aftale. :)
I'd comment but I'm drooling all over the keyboard
Ha!
The C6 is bigger actually.
It is...
Its an old car so you can see which numbers have been pressed.... the shiny/dirty ones.
32 possible combinations is all.
Mopeds...
I want one! Beautifull car!
The C6 also fits the profile though!