I once flew in a 1930s biplane with an open cockpit and the parachute was embedded in the backrest. When you buckle up, you're actually buckled into the parachute at the same time.
@EsteemedMortal According to the TSA "You may transport parachutes, either with or without Automatic Activation Devices, in carry-on or checked bags" so you wouldn't even need another ticket
This channel is specially designed to answer all those questions that I had when i were a kid and nobody could answer. Thank you a lot for the effort and the love that you put in all these videos, I love them!
@@DebunkedOfficial you feel that good lying to people for fake content? How about you pay for an engineers opinion before you make a video that limits people's perspective. TH-cam creators take zero responsibility for falsly leading the ignorant.
Great video. From a licensed skydiver, I see one flaw. Yes, it takes 25 supervised jumps to get certified to be a recreational skydiver, but there are much less complicated emergency parachute rigs which may be able to be used in an emergency. For example, both George HW Bush and John McCain bailed out of their planes and without any prior parachute jumps. Still would be impractical to implement on the scale described in this video.
Are you sure, they didn't have even jumps from tower? I guess, these are not recorded. Being naval aviators, I think, they had at least some basic training. But I have another story, told by bomber pilot and former parachute instructor. How helpless he felt, while bailing out at night. And ended up with broken legs and heavy concussion. Ironically his plane landed itself safely and was repaired before crew recovered from injuries.
A few things comes to mind. In Military industry, pilots would have to jump with their own parachutes in case of being shot down. But it got replaced by seats with parachutes that shoot themselves out of the plane. And then we have Airborne. Yes, makes sense why they are considered elite. Not only they have all this training, and have to do it in active combat zones, I remember that you need to be able to use the right landing position to avoid breaking your legs, and there's a risk of getting your parachute all messed up on itself if you let it fail the controls, plus there's the risk of it getting stuck with another person's parachute, and it can end up stuck in a tree and let you hanging there. And then again, Airborne are trained to jump out of good planes, and when it's going down like the video says, they mostly always die, either by fire or getting shoot by the AA guns, or by a failed landing or parachute. So yeah, if even the military had to make it so pilots have a easier way to eject than to take lessons with Airborne, which normally carries about some dozens paratroopers, imagine training the millions of people who probably will fly 6 times in their lifetime.
Can you imagine the human crush that would occur when the pilot gave the order to abandon? A plane would have to hold under 180kn at a reasonable altitude for quite a while with incredibly cool customers as passengers to have a successful evac. But if the plane is THAT controllable, it is also controllable enough to land safely.
@@hixta If the airplane can glide, the crash is evitable. What parachute WILL do is giving the crew an option "B) F* it, take the parachute and ditch the plane"
I don't mean to be rude, but wouldn't 20 seconds of thought make it clear that putting all the passengers into chutes and getting them to jump *would never happen* ?
Was a skydiving instructor for 25 years and this is a great and funny video that explains why parachutes are not practical. Have been explaining this to many people over the years. Sensory overload on exit is another reason people can not be trusted to use one even if supplied.
did not mention the fact that you would need hire people to pack, check, and certify the chutes as a miss packed or faulty chute would also equal certain doom.
Also: 1. Parachutes only work if you are properly attached to them and for obvious reasons this should be done _before_ the emergency occurs so you'll spend an extra 15 minutes at check-in being fitted with a 5-point harness that will be digging it's way into your naughty bits for the duration of the flight. You can't even do a #2 with that thing on so diapers are probably in order. 2. Random people cannot be trusted to pull the cord when they are hurtling out of the plane at a gazillion miles an hour so they will have to be tethered to a line that pulls the cord for them. Again; no time to do that as the plan is crashing down so you have to be attached before take-off. 200-300 people. Try it. 3. Disembarkation will take minutes and during that time the plane will still be doing several hundred miles an hour so the passengers will be landing in a long string of several dozen miles of... well wherever the plane happens to be flying. If you are lucky it's water near a shoreline with lifeguards but it's most likely you'll end up in the ocean with resque several hours away. If you are unlucky you crash on the motorway and get run over, or land in a jungle and never be seen again, or get tangled in powerlines or just get hanged by a twirly landing in a tree. You may even get a short expedition on a mountaintop, hey at least you got to see snow! 4. Danger #1 in parachuting is breaking limbs when you land the wrong way and we're not talking a gently "ouch", we're talking bones sticking out. There *willI* be no ambulance waiting for you, you're just one of 200 others that have landed in the middle of nowhere so you're going to bleed out. A quick splat in the plane would be a much mode dignified way to go.
Not to mention that to empty a large and uncontrollable airliner before it hits the ground that gives you about 3 minutes to evacuate some 400 or so people. That is over 2 per second, so suffice it to say almost all of them would likely end up tangled in each others chutes. This would of cause result in improper deployment of the same and certain death. You would somehow need to co-ordinate each wave leaving from the doors of the aircraft around the same time to deploy at different altitudes to make sure they have room for their chutes not to interfere. This is simply not practical. Then again if the aircraft is so badly damaged that it is unable to make a much more survivable emergency landing it is fairly unlikely the forces involved would allow egress anyway. Trying to move around in a crowded plane where everyone is effectively weightless would be tricky enough and probably needs some additional training. Trying to do the same in the more likely scenario where you are immediately pinned to the floor, sides, ceiling, or front/rear bulkhead by a force several times your own weight would be near impossible. Especially with the injuries you would likely sustain when removing your seatbelt and immediately being flung into the above by that g-force. If the plane can't fly and land there is after all something catastrophically wrong with the aircraft flight controls so it being in the sort of unusual attitude that will cause this is likely.
@@traveonramey2474 You'd never get out the door of the plane anyway. You're far more likely to choke and die on the cookie that you were served on the flight anyway. Flying is already miserable and expensive enough. You want to make it worse?
Highly trained and disciplined military personnel take 1 second per person per door to exit an aircraft in flight. And, that is only after they are rigged and inspected for a parachute jump. Imagine 100 untrained and panicked people trying to rig their own parachutes and jump out of a tightly packed and cramped airplane. Half of those people couldn’t even properly put on the currently used oxygen masks during an emergency. And, all of these people would be impeding your way. How long do you think it would take the average person to exit the airplane from the start of the emergency?
So if you manage not to: - get chopped in half by plane parts - get eradicated by the planes engine - keep your lungs intact - don't freeze to death during the jump - remain conscious in the thin atmosphere - manage to reach the surface safely you're probably going to freeze to death in the cold waters of the ocean
@@KraytTheGreat So if only some rich people and corporations managed to: -design new planes with this emergency in mind -don't take hundreds of peoples per flight to be able to afford the ceo's monthly electricity bill -design special parachutes easy to use -design it in a way that it also acts as a life preserver -make it so the equipment comes with a jacket -make it mandatory to wear it during travel also, surface temperature of the oceans on average is 20c the oceans are rarely in a state like jack sparrow is going through some serious shit nearby. I would prefer taking my chances. The alternative is watching people shit themselves in panic, crash into the ocean and drown not knowing where is the exit or where is up or down, that is obviously if I'm still alive after the crash.
Thinking outside the box, the commercial plane itself could have parachute-like devices to slow it down if in freefall. Those could help to reduce speed to a somewhat survivable one, in an emergency. Space capsules and some military jets already use similar devices.
@@squirrelhallowino29 It's already being done on other flying machines. You can get the same effect with several smaller parachutes placed in strategic places, like airbags in a car. It doesn't need to be heavy or bulky to be effective.
@@energyflowswhereattentiongoeswhat is THE MOST important thing the flight attendants tell you not to do in the case of an evacuation? DO NOT retrieve your hand luggage. Can you guess why? Now imagine 300 or more people all doing the one thing that is most dangerous in an evacuation. Just give it 5 seconds’ thought and you’ll see why hundreds of people retrieving and donning backpacks will kill far more people than it could ever possibly save.
If the plane was actually in danger of an imminent crash, people would be rioting and pushing others and trampling them just to get to the door. Keeping a parachute under the seat should be fairly easy to get on, but getting out would not be
Long to put on properly, lack of training to operate and land, lack of oxygen at altitude, crowd panic, and you may simply be fairly safe trusting the pilot. Also I love the style of this channel the animation is amazing!!!
Good explanation and I like the animations. As a solution to all of this, I envision a passenger jet with a detachable passenger section. Something along the lines of the cargo plane from the old Thunderbirds kids show. I could be one big container, or split into smaller sections, with parachutes on the container and perhaps inflatable bottom to make it a life raft if it lands in water. Or, for a more technological future, the container itself could be a self-landing drone.
If the plane was still controllable enough to execute a controlled evacuation I think I would take my chances on the emergency landing. Most aviation accidents with total loss happen so fast that there would be no time for an evacuation.
I’m surprised you didn’t compare the average non lethal injury from an airplane crash and skydiving. Assuming the severity is similar, first responders would find you much more easily if you stick with the group. And there’s a good chance that the other passengers could provide some kind of first aid
Great video. Adding to your cost factor would be not just the size of the equipment, but even if you could get that into a seat somehow. It would bring the total empty weight of the aircraft up, needing more fuel or reducing passengers to offset.
Your videos are cool I can see the effort and care put into the script, the visuals and research. Not only that, but Stu is also really charismatic, and seems to enjoy what he's doing. Keep it up!
I shall throw a bit of logic into this conversation. 1 no one survives a plane crash. 2 a risk of death by parashute is much better then certian death. 3 it would be expensive for the airline. This is the main reason. 4 bringing your own is bad advertising and fights would breakout from people trying to take it. So yes weight is an issue 60lbs of parashute times 200+ shutes per flight is a lot of extra fuel and money plus all the preflight training that would be mandated. More money. It is more cost effective to let you crash and burn as the plane is insured. That train that takes twice as long but will certainly deliver you alive should be looking a lot better now.
The only reason is cost. That's it, nothing else preventing it. If a fighter jet can parachute, so can normal planes. Every issue mentioned in the video can be fixed, as most passengers would prefer "injury" over "being dead".
One thing you forgot: wenn people jump from great night's and with 500 mph of speed, the jumpers will be dispersed in much bigger area than it's feasible to search with helicopters or planes. Above water the chances of survival will be much less.
At that speed you practically instantly die. There are crash sites where aircraft disintegrated at great height, where the bodies they found were all without clothes and body hair. Basically scrubbed clean by the airflow during the "egress".
That seems unlikely given the tensile strength of hair and the 6 or 7 G deceleration for a couple of seconds is not unsurvivable. Flail injuries are possible, but I doubt it would remove body hair unless this is caused by entering a cloud of burning kerosene.
@@MGZetta No, I'm saying that the people are much harder to find in the sea. They are drifting away, drowning, going under, being nibbled on by sharks, etc. On land there are only animals to nibble on them. They won't move much if they are dead or wounded. And since they jumped off by parachute, the crashing part of the plane is of no concern.
@@moranjackson7662 A complete stick of military paratroopers drowned because they were dropped 5 minutes too early and not retrieved in time. So imagine civilians.
I’ve brought my Skydiving Rig on a commercial flight many times(traveling to skydive elsewhere). And every time people would ask me about this. I’d explain basically everything in this video and assure them that if the plane goes down I’ll be just as dead as everyone else :) and that my Rig is about as useful as their neck pillow in an emergency… probably less so, not as soft you see ;)
My son used to ask me the sorts of questions this channel answers. "Why is the sky blue?" "What do rockets push against?" "Who is Mandy and why did Barry Manilow send her away?"
Its very sad cars are so dangerous. They, in North america, are killing similar amounts of people to guns. Its sad we(More specifically North america), live in such a a car-centric world.
If the plane is at a high enough altitude to make parachutes a lifesaving option, the plane has altitude enough to buy time to remedy the issue or choose another runway to land on.
If a passenger plane is at a high enough altitude to make parachuting an option, then the cabin is pressurised and you're NOT opening the door without a small explosive.
Simply because most accidents happen at takeoff or landing when a parachute would be useless and stuff that does happen at altitude usually happens very quickly.
People are also vastly different sizes. Imagine going through all those hoops to implement something that probably wouldn't work when ultimately only a percentage of passengers would be able to don such a suit. Children, big and tall people, pregnant women, etc would likely not end up with something that fits so trying to put them on whether it fits or not would essentially be a gamble.
An interesting video! Though I think with a few changes you could make it something that people would pay for. It's the illusion of safety we're talking about here. You'd just need a door that can be ejected, and procedures to get the quickly plane down below to where the oxygen is, and then all you'd need is a simple parachute per passenger. I think perhaps you're overthinking the vital need for training, in an emergency situation someone hands you a parachute it's going to be better than nothing, and you just pull the handle when you're falling and hope for the best. Assuming you can fight your way to the exit through a crowd of desperate people. Perhaps that's something people would pay extra for, to have that reassurance of potential survival in a situation that usually you're completely at it's mercy. But even then I'd still have to agree it's really rather pointless, perhaps something for you to ponder while you find yourself pinned to the back of a falling plane by extreme G-Forces. 😆
The chute could easily be designed with an automatic release so no one had to pull any handles. Biggest problem I see is getting a planeload of passengers out 4-6 doors in a reasonable amount of time. I bet 90% of them will freeze when they are in the doorway (to be then shoved out energetically by the people behind them whose trousers are starting to smolder).
I can totally see something like this being a thing if plane crashes were likely. But they're such one-in-a-million scenarios that, you know, it will always be a waste for the airlines. It's not like seatbelts, which are necessary because car accidents do happen to people throughout their lives.
Informative and fun. Provide parachutes for commercial airlines really cost huge amount of money... And... More risky(more than 90% passengers are likely lack of knowledge in parachuting).
One thing not mentioned is the recovery of passengers. Imagine if all 350 passengers onboard A350 or a 787 would be able to jump from a plane travelling even at 200km/h at 10000 feet, that would cover an area of small country. Good luck finding injured people from the area. Even if they jumped on land and not an ocean. And like mentioned before, if a plane can fly at 10000 feet and stable speed, that plane is capable to land and no-one has to jump.
the idea is survival...finding them later is easy...actually as per your numbers and assuming every person will take 5 seconds to jump then they will be spread in an area of 3.9km diamtre, Definitely not a small country...a busted old helicopter can find them
@@mizzorian You're assuming that all of them jumped from the same spot in the matter of seconds. Truth is, if such a case were to happen, you'd be more likely to have the first person jumping about 3 minutes & like at least 10 kilometers away from the very last guy in the plane, due to the fact that the plane is still flying at a speed comparable to an f1 car on the track, when these passengers jump. With that said, your spread would be more likely to be well above 30km in diameter, than within 3.9km.
@@FalconWindblader actually we are both wrong...I dont remember my initial calculations, but running my numbers again gave me a diametre of 98km...that is huge area
@@mizzorian I wasn't wrong. i did note that the numbers i came up with was conservative right from the start, & the actual numbers could be way bigger.
@@mizzorian Plane flying even at low speed of 300km/h, and lets say it takes 5 seconds for one passenger to exit the plane, that would be 0,4km per passenger, multiple that by 300 passengers, that would be 120km. And as we know, five seconds is never gonna happen per person, counting the winds and other factors, I'd say all 300 passengers would spread in area about the same as Slovenia.
This video needs to be Debunked. Need more statistics. His logic could also be applied to fire extinguishers in a house ( not trained, not home, fire expands to fast). Remember "if it would only save one life" thing. Even if the plane could not descend to a safe altitude to jump. The affects of high altitude would be worth the risk, and a good portion of people would live (depending how high). The parachutes would just have auto-open features (that already exist). The plane can equalize pressure to open the door at any altitude. The main reasons why there is no parachutes would be expense, liability of training, and the probability of its benefit.
Alternative is put parachutes on the plane. Or, allow passengers with proper parachute training and qualifications to bring their own parachute, temperature suit, gas tank, and modify each passenger plane with access to a lowered back door to parachute out. But, that's a lot. Lol
Some small planes are installed with parachute systems capable of supporting the whole aircraft in a slow and survivable descent back to Earth. In theory, it could be possible to simply scale this technology up and apply it to larger planes. Though there are critics who have some serious concerns with the feasibility of attaching parachutes to massive airliners.
@@DebunkedOfficial It's been researched. An airliner is a fragile beast, you'd need to have many attachment points, and the weight of the system would greatly inhibit passenger capacity and range. Then you'd have to slow down to a speed that would destroy the parachutes. But airliners no longer fall out of the sky as they did in decades past, so it's moot anyway. All Cirrus airplanes, including their little jet, have parachutes, as do many light sport and experimental aircraft.
Most things in this video is correct. However commercial planes can slow down to 300 km/h as long as the flaps are working. Planes while normally cruising at 30k feet can go down to 10k feet. If there is a cabin decompression event pilots are trained to glide down to 10k feet
But what if the airliner has pilots? They could lower the altitude to sub 14,000 feet, slow the speed down and depressurise the cabin so that the doors open? The passengers may not have any training but if the pilots are convinced that a safe landing isn't possible then the passengers may wanna fancy their chances anyway, rather than just dying in their seats.
If they have enough control of the plane to do all of that, then they probably have enough control for an emergency landing on water or in an open field.
So in order to successfully parachute jump from a jet liner, you not only need extensive training, but also need to have the plane fly at conditions in which it is already performing a likely very safe emergency landing at the nearest suitable runway.
Why would captain order them to jump if he is landing it safely? Lmao. Why would you need licence to jump to save your life? You ain't collecting points, you're trying to save your life. Lol. If you fail, that's a fucking good try instead of those died in the plane because they don't have a licence to pull a rope. Lol.
Plus, when a plane is plummeting toward the ground your are either pulling multiple Gs or are essentially weightless, making even the evacuation of a SEAL team unlikely to impossible.
A lot of these points can easily be challenged. Speed of 500 mph and altitude of 36,000 ft is a healthy plane. One that is struggling to stay in the air is likely slower and lower. I've been trained on skydiving and they're right, about six hours is appropriate for individual jumps, but in life and death, I think most would take their chances with a parachute rather than surviving a crash. Getting people out of the plane on time would certainly be the biggest challenge and not hitting anything upon exit would be a challenge as well. However, saving a few people is better than saving zero people. Another huge challenge that they didn't mention is the terrain below. Landing a parachute in the forest or mountains could easily mean death on impact. A water landing might result in a slower more painful death than dying in a crash. I tell you what though, if I'm about to crash over Kansas, I'll take that parachute every single time!
I don’t have to imagine. I’ve been there and done that in a military transport C-141 over the Pacific Ocean. It’s not as scary as it seems. A little unnerving. But, not scary. Then again, I was a paratrooper. I was also probably still groggy from being asleep on a pallet of parachutes. Isn’t that ironic? Don’t cha think? A little too ironic, I really do think.
@@tiagobordin6580 - You may be right. I think it is more about the personality and less about the training. I was that way before the training. It was because of that personality that I went through the training in the first place. Heights, speed, big crowds, public speaking, etc don’t scare me. However, the things that do frighten me would probably make you laugh. 🤭
I think the most realistic is ejectable seats,so the passenger straps on the seat,oxygen supply is on the seat aswell,and they get ejected below the plane
Wouldn’t work, the plane would be falling faster than you at the time of ejection and you would slam into the under belly. The amount of force to eject you fast enough downward would likely snap your neck.
Cost of an ejection seat is about $140k. That's ignoring the cost of engineering a way to install them all. We'll roll that into the cost of your ticket, not mine. Also the weight added by the ejection seats would be more than half of what the plane can carry. So I'm guessing you're the one who will take one for the team and leave your stuff behind?
It would also depend on the fall; I doubt passengers like on AirFrance would have the ability to get out of their seats because of the intensity of the fall. The descent would need to be steady to where the G forces would even allow them off.
Although I agree that your best best is staying with the plane (the vanishing small risk that anything will happen on your flight, PLUS, the pilots are trained to make the best go of the least destructive landing). That being said, if the plane is bad off enough that it can't stay up, chances are that it's air speed HAS dropped to the 100-150 mph level. Proof of this would be apparent by watching how quickly the plane is plummeting. Many planes have status monitoring displays on the seat screens, so if the speed was low enough, you'd definitely want to make the jump.....particularly because the best pilot in the world can't keep the plane up once stall speed is reached. Also, stalled/dropping planes tend to spin (not certain, but very likely) and that would throw the skydiver clear of hull impacts...assuming he made it to a rear exit to begin with.
BUT WHAT ABOUT HAVING SOME SPECIALIZED TUBES INTO WHICH 3-5 PEOPLE WOULD GO IN AND THE TUBE WOULD BE PARACHUTED INSTEAD? I wrote in caps to ensure visibility of my comment as i'm quite curious
Many of what has been discussed here can be solved easily, the high altitude problem for oxygen and temperature is really not a problem because a crashing or falling airplane eventually drops altitude intentionally or not, second fast and high-pressured air can be solved by slowing down the airplane especially if it runs out of fuel and glide, the only things needed are parachutes and a big openable section in the back, which I think is not that hard to achieve.
That one probably bugged me more than anything else in the video. If you're gonna say "can't parachute out because they lock the doors" then you might as well say "can't parachute out because they don't give you parachutes" They're really not exploring the hypothetical
The issue is as he said, is due to high speed and air pressure, which is not the case when the airplane slows down, especially if the door is in the back where air drag is much less and the risk of passengers hitting the airplane is zero.
In fairness, most commercial airliner crashes that have happened throughout history which killed everyone on board happened in seconds. With a lot happening on take off or landing, or because two planes crashed into each, or a sudden electrical fault, or because an idiot Russian captain decided to let his son pilot the plane. Either way, you'll be lucky to make it to the door, let alone skydive out.
This is a stupid argument, because it's totally impractical to give parachutes to passengers. That said, you can slow an airliner down to a speed that would not be fatal. You can also lower the planes altitude, so their lungs won't explode. Obviously, if the captain had no other choice but to parachute out all the passengers, he would NOT do it at 35,000 feet, going 500 miles per hour.
@@nulious Pilot-to-be here. Well, that's not quite right. There are several ways to reduce the altitude and speed of an aircraft, but they do not guarantee that you will be able to land the aircraft safely. For example, you can throttle down the engines and pull up the nose. This lowers the aircraft and reduces its speed. But that alone does not guarantee a safe landing.
@@10cu7u5 But still way more likely scenario is to land than have all passengers jump out and survive. Even in the best case, I'd say 30% of people would survive, 70% would die jumping.
Having done sky diving a few times , there are a few reasons why there wont be any Parachutes on commercial planes , first is cost would be ridiculously high not mention the chutes will need to be checked regular , two if for example the aircraft was a airbus a 380 which can hold between 400-500 passenger the panic that would ensue would be ridiculous a lot of chutes would be twisted with each other if they all jumped at the same time and may create unnecessary deaths. Not to mention that passengers would need oxygen tanks if they are to jump above 14000 ft (hypoxia above the 14000 ) so the chute would only been used at that height and below. Then there's the weight all this would add to the payload, which intern would maybe affect what passengers can carry on board . There would also need training , and what if passengers have kids ? , truth of the merry is planes are still the most safety way of transport in the world and crashes etc are rare.
Every argument made here is nullified by the reality that parachutes would make at least a couple people more likely to survive. Oh, no one would know how to use them, jumping out would be difficult, evacuation would be chaotic, etc.... so? The alternative is certain death. Plane's too high? Not for long, it's going down. At the end of the day the cost is all that's relevant. Mid debunk.
I was never nervous about flying until I was in Europe and I flew on Roman Airlines and the first announcement from the pilot was "we who are about to die salute you"
there totally should be a way for the whole roof of any plane to get removed while the seats in sets would be ejected out as a pod (pod being self contained meaning has a bit of air and you woudent freeze) with parachute to all passengers and flight crew which would land safely to the ground and if its on sea then make it botany essentially guaranteeing survival incase the worse happens 35000 feet in the air yeah it would cost a lot more money to implement this into every airplane but ild rather a way to guarantee survival then the plummet to the earth
And that's not even mentioning that you have no idea/control over where you land. Might end up in an ocean, lake, desert, mountaintop, ravine... wilderness filled with dangerous animals...
Come oguys, what happened to your imaginations? How about it's in an uncontrollable spin (pick any direction) , pinning everything to the roof, sides or front to back...
Its simple, it would take too much space and add weight = less room for passengers and higher cost. If there is anything airlines hate its cost, got to keep the profits.
Despite the potential issues this is the only feasible solution. It takes far too long to evacuate the passengers in the event of an emergency. I believe the system could be designed so the tail would break off and parachutes would be deployed.
Simply because commercial airliners are too heavy. Aircraft parachutes do exist, but only for small aircraft. I remember reading once that for a 747 you'd need something like dozens of parachutes, each the size of a football field, to slow the rate of descent enough for the impact to be survivable.
@@xyz__________7218no. It’s not the space and weight for the shutes. It’s that you would need to build separate pods that could have independent shoots. The logistics of building a jet and attachments for shutes are different. Better to just make the planes not crash.
I bet when airliners get in enough trouble that jumping out looks appealing, they are no longer traveling at 400+ mph. Also, the door openings could be equipped with a wind deflector that can go out in the slipstream and allow you to start your drop straight down (with respect to the fuselage). As far as the breathing kit, there is already an oxygen mask for every seat on board, just make them removable.
So you are trying very hard to undo something like 10 years of commertial airliner aerodynamic development (needs more engine power, decrease gliding range) for barely any help during unlikely event of emergency during cruise. How about advance aerodynamics further so during the same event plane just glides further, potentially reaching airport. Also during normal flight - save fuel so airline is profitable and can actually perform all required maintenance.
If the emergency happens at a high enough altitude and in a steady enough trajectory (eg. you're not being violently thrown around the cabin or sujected to extreme g forces) that you have the time and ability to rig up a parachute and removable oxygen mask and successfully evacuate, then there would more chance the plane could make a successful emergency landing giving you a much greater chance of survival. Especially compared to throwing yourself out haphazardly into air that is freezing and you cannot breathe. Plane crashes don't always have 100% fatalities you know.
The installation of trap doors under each seat would increase the weight of the aircraft so much that it probably couldn't get the aircraft to leave the ground. That will insure maximum safety for sure!!!!
You see there's one problem that you failed to mention in this video. I'm simply built different and half of these things don't affect me. So I would be able to use a parachute and survive 😎
But it's still more chances to survive with parachute than without it when your plane is falling, right? They could add an emergensy doors, show a short instruction to passengers... it's still would be better than just sitting there, waiting to be smashed
This is stupid! If you can't get out of a plane, then design it to have an emergency hatch for parachuets. Also who the F cares about 35.000 ft! The plan can just glide to a safe altitude. The ONLY reason this wont be implemented is because of MONEY! Dont fool your self. It is not economically viable to secure passengers.
Yeah I was thinking If the plane is going down, then the problems of cold and lack of breathable air will solve themselves pretty soon. Still has some logistical issues but a lot of the flaws don't seem as huge as they made them out to be.
If you have enough control of the plan to safely bring it down to jump altitude then you are very likely to have enough control to safely land it so the risk of a parachute jump is still too high on balance
If the pilot can control the plane to lower altitude or lower speed, its very likely that the pilot can do safely landing, instead of letting the passanger do jump alone without experience even in lower altitude/speed
I thought that planes were designed to glide (relatively calmly) back to safety, much like Flight 143 (8:20). I want to know more about Fight 447 now (8:03).
So it’s cheeper to die with no parachutes then to give them one well that sucks guess anyone who is going on a plane trip today and beyond better make sure they have their will sorted out before hand?😓🤔🤨😳😑😓
I've got to be honest... if I board a plane that has an emergency parachute for every passenger, I'm probably getting right back off and finding a different plane that doesn't think it's going to crash.
Aesop's moral to the story is, if men were meant to fly they would have wings. Also, if you are on a troubled plane going down, you are going to die. Enjoy your flight.
IS SOOOO UNDERRATED the fact that we figured out how to get a bunch of metal to bend every law of physics in our favor, made it accessible, and even economical… So underrated. That’s crazy! 😝
The only solution I ever came up with that makes parachutes feasible would be a static line system hidden in the void above the passenger cabins with access points at each door. Weight is still an issue but not as much, people get to the door, put on a harness and jump followed by their already open chute. Of course people would just panic and it wouldn’t work because of this but this I think is the best solution should airlines ever start using them.
It's simply a matter of looking at what type of landing the plane will make: If it's got wings and attitude control, stay with the plane as the well-trained Pilot landing is your best bet. HOWEVER, if there's terminal damage to the plane (such as wing loss) and you're below stall speed, you ARE going to crash in an uncontrolled manner. At that point, Pilot expertise is irrelevant and if you have a 'chute...use it. Make your way to the rear exit and...exit. Planes have all sorts of handholds so it can be done. Harrowing, perhaps, but it can be done. Furthermore, if the plane fuselage is spinning, a rear exit will help toss you away from the plane and prevent hull impacts. Watch out for old ladies on the way out as they are really grabby/clingy in an emergency......(kidding).
Be honest, did anyone else think the equipment under their plane seat was a parachute?
Yea
I know someone who did.
I think not unless you're not listening to the Cabin Crew's instruction before boarding.
Not scientific though... but how about give the plane a parachute big enough to break its fall
I once flew in a 1930s biplane with an open cockpit and the parachute was embedded in the backrest. When you buckle up, you're actually buckled into the parachute at the same time.
Here’s the thing, not everyone needs the specialist skydiving equipment. Just me.
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“What do you mean I need to buy a ticket for my emotional support tandem sky diver???”
@EsteemedMortal According to the TSA "You may transport parachutes, either with or without Automatic Activation Devices, in carry-on or checked bags" so you wouldn't even need another ticket
That’s what I’m talking about!
@@redhood5074 he meant for his tandem skydiver(human) not for the equipment
This channel is specially designed to answer all those questions that I had when i were a kid and nobody could answer.
Thank you a lot for the effort and the love that you put in all these videos, I love them!
Thank you so much for that comment 😊
The answers he provides are not the ones adults need. However these videos are great for small children with adhd.
@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again What even are you talking about lol. They're perfectly explained for "adults"
He didn't answer anything, an engineer with an associate's degree could have told you he's wrong.
@@DebunkedOfficial you feel that good lying to people for fake content? How about you pay for an engineers opinion before you make a video that limits people's perspective. TH-cam creators take zero responsibility for falsly leading the ignorant.
Great video. From a licensed skydiver, I see one flaw. Yes, it takes 25 supervised jumps to get certified to be a recreational skydiver, but there are much less complicated emergency parachute rigs which may be able to be used in an emergency. For example, both George HW Bush and John McCain bailed out of their planes and without any prior parachute jumps. Still would be impractical to implement on the scale described in this video.
Solution, design commercial plane with with hatch at the back and gets certified for parachute jumps. Have a backpack w oxygen gas inside.
Are you sure, they didn't have even jumps from tower? I guess, these are not recorded. Being naval aviators, I think, they had at least some basic training. But I have another story, told by bomber pilot and former parachute instructor. How helpless he felt, while bailing out at night. And ended up with broken legs and heavy concussion. Ironically his plane landed itself safely and was repaired before crew recovered from injuries.
@@trex2621 death or broken legs, what sounds better?
@@Vanadium In these conditions either of us would have died anyway.
A few things comes to mind. In Military industry, pilots would have to jump with their own parachutes in case of being shot down. But it got replaced by seats with parachutes that shoot themselves out of the plane.
And then we have Airborne. Yes, makes sense why they are considered elite. Not only they have all this training, and have to do it in active combat zones, I remember that you need to be able to use the right landing position to avoid breaking your legs, and there's a risk of getting your parachute all messed up on itself if you let it fail the controls, plus there's the risk of it getting stuck with another person's parachute, and it can end up stuck in a tree and let you hanging there. And then again, Airborne are trained to jump out of good planes, and when it's going down like the video says, they mostly always die, either by fire or getting shoot by the AA guns, or by a failed landing or parachute.
So yeah, if even the military had to make it so pilots have a easier way to eject than to take lessons with Airborne, which normally carries about some dozens paratroopers, imagine training the millions of people who probably will fly 6 times in their lifetime.
Can you imagine the human crush that would occur when the pilot gave the order to abandon? A plane would have to hold under 180kn at a reasonable altitude for quite a while with incredibly cool customers as passengers to have a successful evac. But if the plane is THAT controllable, it is also controllable enough to land safely.
At least a chaotic brawl might provide some level of distraction during an otherwise emotionally distressung time.
@@SofaKingShit It's the little things...
Imagine the number of panicked people pulling the cord IN the plane and huge parachutes and lines tangling everyone up.
It doesn't matter how controllable it is if the landing is in a bad area your cooked
@@yungblade7If you control the plane, you also control the landing area. Unless you're running out of fuel that is.
Even if it's 1 percent chance of survival, I would jump with that parachute rather than staying in the plane and watch myself dying
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This video editing was one of the most fun I've ever found on youtube!
Hmm strange
Thanks 😊
If a crash is inevitable, but the plane can still glide to a lower altitude and still have air brakes, are parachutes still not a good option?
@@hixta If the airplane can glide, the crash is evitable. What parachute WILL do is giving the crew an option "B) F* it, take the parachute and ditch the plane"
please step outside today.
The guy who jumped into the jet turbine was just tragically hilarious.
Thats my favorite part
4:29
Quick grab the parachute! You ready!?
"Yeah I got this! Alright I'm ready!!!"
Okay jump!
"gerani-NOOOOOOOOO!" (Splat)
"Uh... Okay next exit!"
the guy who gets split in 2 tops the list for me
Propeller guy from Titanic has nothing on him
This question has been on my mind for at least 20 years now.
Well I hope we put that one to rest? 🙂
I don't mean to be rude, but wouldn't 20 seconds of thought make it clear that putting all the passengers into chutes and getting them to jump *would never happen* ?
@@pkz420 Install a chute on the plane itself.
Was a skydiving instructor for 25 years and this is a great and funny video that explains why parachutes are not practical. Have been explaining this to many people over the years. Sensory overload on exit is another reason people can not be trusted to use one even if supplied.
It’s gonna be a scary experience
did not mention the fact that you would need hire people to pack, check, and certify the chutes as a miss packed or faulty chute would also equal certain doom.
What's better 100% death rate with a crashed plane, or 50% with some dying on parachutes?
Idiotic take. Lots of people would gladly buy their own chutes if there were a proper way to exit. .
@@garrysekelli6776 still they would need to be checked and certified even if it was byod.
@@stewarde17 nah. It would be up to the passenger to check his own chute.
@@garrysekelli6776 sure if the airline wanted to be found liable for lawsuits
Also:
1. Parachutes only work if you are properly attached to them and for obvious reasons this should be done _before_ the emergency occurs so you'll spend an extra 15 minutes at check-in being fitted with a 5-point harness that will be digging it's way into your naughty bits for the duration of the flight. You can't even do a #2 with that thing on so diapers are probably in order.
2. Random people cannot be trusted to pull the cord when they are hurtling out of the plane at a gazillion miles an hour so they will have to be tethered to a line that pulls the cord for them. Again; no time to do that as the plan is crashing down so you have to be attached before take-off. 200-300 people. Try it.
3. Disembarkation will take minutes and during that time the plane will still be doing several hundred miles an hour so the passengers will be landing in a long string of several dozen miles of... well wherever the plane happens to be flying. If you are lucky it's water near a shoreline with lifeguards but it's most likely you'll end up in the ocean with resque several hours away. If you are unlucky you crash on the motorway and get run over, or land in a jungle and never be seen again, or get tangled in powerlines or just get hanged by a twirly landing in a tree. You may even get a short expedition on a mountaintop, hey at least you got to see snow!
4. Danger #1 in parachuting is breaking limbs when you land the wrong way and we're not talking a gently "ouch", we're talking bones sticking out. There *willI* be no ambulance waiting for you, you're just one of 200 others that have landed in the middle of nowhere so you're going to bleed out. A quick splat in the plane would be a much mode dignified way to go.
Not to mention that to empty a large and uncontrollable airliner before it hits the ground that gives you about 3 minutes to evacuate some 400 or so people. That is over 2 per second, so suffice it to say almost all of them would likely end up tangled in each others chutes. This would of cause result in improper deployment of the same and certain death. You would somehow need to co-ordinate each wave leaving from the doors of the aircraft around the same time to deploy at different altitudes to make sure they have room for their chutes not to interfere. This is simply not practical. Then again if the aircraft is so badly damaged that it is unable to make a much more survivable emergency landing it is fairly unlikely the forces involved would allow egress anyway. Trying to move around in a crowded plane where everyone is effectively weightless would be tricky enough and probably needs some additional training. Trying to do the same in the more likely scenario where you are immediately pinned to the floor, sides, ceiling, or front/rear bulkhead by a force several times your own weight would be near impossible. Especially with the injuries you would likely sustain when removing your seatbelt and immediately being flung into the above by that g-force. If the plane can't fly and land there is after all something catastrophically wrong with the aircraft flight controls so it being in the sort of unusual attitude that will cause this is likely.
I would rather be hurt, lost, and waiting for help than dead. So i will take my chances.
@@traveonramey2474if you would parachute out of a commercial plane, you would be dead even before than touching ground.
@@traveonramey2474 You'd never get out the door of the plane anyway. You're far more likely to choke and die on the cookie that you were served on the flight anyway. Flying is already miserable and expensive enough. You want to make it worse?
Highly trained and disciplined military personnel take 1 second per person per door to exit an aircraft in flight. And, that is only after they are rigged and inspected for a parachute jump.
Imagine 100 untrained and panicked people trying to rig their own parachutes and jump out of a tightly packed and cramped airplane. Half of those people couldn’t even properly put on the currently used oxygen masks during an emergency. And, all of these people would be impeding your way. How long do you think it would take the average person to exit the airplane from the start of the emergency?
There's also the fact that a lot of air routes travel largely across vast expanses of ocean or arctic where a parachute wouldn't do you much good.
So if you manage not to:
- get chopped in half by plane parts
- get eradicated by the planes engine
- keep your lungs intact
- don't freeze to death during the jump
- remain conscious in the thin atmosphere
- manage to reach the surface safely
you're probably going to freeze to death in the cold waters of the ocean
They can show the old Air corp winter and desert type survival training films while in flight Like how to make a tent from a parachute etc
Better than crashing into ocean at mach 1. Lmao. Would take the chance any day than just dying.
sooo how about the plane having space shuttle-like parachuts then?@@KraytTheGreat
@@KraytTheGreat
So if only some rich people and corporations managed to:
-design new planes with this emergency in mind
-don't take hundreds of peoples per flight to be able to afford the ceo's monthly electricity bill
-design special parachutes easy to use
-design it in a way that it also acts as a life preserver
-make it so the equipment comes with a jacket
-make it mandatory to wear it during travel
also, surface temperature of the oceans on average is 20c
the oceans are rarely in a state like jack sparrow is going through some serious shit nearby.
I would prefer taking my chances. The alternative is watching people shit themselves in panic, crash into the ocean and drown not knowing where is the exit or where is up or down, that is obviously if I'm still alive after the crash.
All I'm seeing is a choice between 100% death likelihood in a crashing plane or 99% death likelihood by jumping out.
Thinking outside the box, the commercial plane itself could have parachute-like devices to slow it down if in freefall. Those could help to reduce speed to a somewhat survivable one, in an emergency. Space capsules and some military jets already use similar devices.
correct, this should be the question everyone asking
Cirrus jets come with a chute
A parachute strong enough to hold a n airbus a320 for example would use all the storage capacity of the plane and probably be too heavy to fly anyways
@@squirrelhallowino29 It's already being done on other flying machines. You can get the same effect with several smaller parachutes placed in strategic places, like airbags in a car. It doesn't need to be heavy or bulky to be effective.
Yes i know that, but an airliner is a ginourmous fully loaded plane, there's no space for a parachute that can hold an airliner@@SevenSixTwo2012
Imagine you hardly have space to move your arms but suddenly 300 people are supposed to get changed into this equiptment at the same time.
equipment?..a backpack with straps in a rare occurance to try to save ur lives...what a inconvenience...lol oh boy.
someone didn't watch the video
@@energyflowswhereattentiongoeswhat is THE MOST important thing the flight attendants tell you not to do in the case of an evacuation? DO NOT retrieve your hand luggage. Can you guess why? Now imagine 300 or more people all doing the one thing that is most dangerous in an evacuation. Just give it 5 seconds’ thought and you’ll see why hundreds of people retrieving and donning backpacks will kill far more people than it could ever possibly save.
If the plane was actually in danger of an imminent crash, people would be rioting and pushing others and trampling them just to get to the door. Keeping a parachute under the seat should be fairly easy to get on, but getting out would not be
This video is good at making minor inconveniences look impossible
Long to put on properly, lack of training to operate and land, lack of oxygen at altitude, crowd panic, and you may simply be fairly safe trusting the pilot. Also I love the style of this channel the animation is amazing!!!
Good explanation and I like the animations. As a solution to all of this, I envision a passenger jet with a detachable passenger section. Something along the lines of the cargo plane from the old Thunderbirds kids show. I could be one big container, or split into smaller sections, with parachutes on the container and perhaps inflatable bottom to make it a life raft if it lands in water. Or, for a more technological future, the container itself could be a self-landing drone.
I dig it, but the construction of such a thing would be very heavy. It would cut into airline revenue, and we can't have that...
Parachute the plane itself with a top hatch that greatly reduce the drop speed of the craft itself
If the plane was still controllable enough to execute a controlled evacuation I think I would take my chances on the emergency landing. Most aviation accidents with total loss happen so fast that there would be no time for an evacuation.
Emergency landing on top of a city sky rise?? I think I'll jump out
I’m surprised you didn’t compare the average non lethal injury from an airplane crash and skydiving. Assuming the severity is similar, first responders would find you much more easily if you stick with the group. And there’s a good chance that the other passengers could provide some kind of first aid
5:10 hahaha those poor passengers slamming onto the fuselage had me in tears.... i feel bad now
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Indeed some large banging nosie there 🤔
Great video. Adding to your cost factor would be not just the size of the equipment, but even if you could get that into a seat somehow. It would bring the total empty weight of the aircraft up, needing more fuel or reducing passengers to offset.
Your videos are cool
I can see the effort and care put into the script, the visuals and research.
Not only that, but Stu is also really charismatic, and seems to enjoy what he's doing.
Keep it up!
Thank you Davi 👍
I shall throw a bit of logic into this conversation. 1 no one survives a plane crash. 2 a risk of death by parashute is much better then certian death. 3 it would be expensive for the airline. This is the main reason. 4 bringing your own is bad advertising and fights would breakout from people trying to take it. So yes weight is an issue 60lbs of parashute times 200+ shutes per flight is a lot of extra fuel and money plus all the preflight training that would be mandated. More money. It is more cost effective to let you crash and burn as the plane is insured. That train that takes twice as long but will certainly deliver you alive should be looking a lot better now.
The only reason is cost.
That's it, nothing else preventing it.
If a fighter jet can parachute, so can normal planes.
Every issue mentioned in the video can be fixed, as most passengers would prefer "injury" over "being dead".
The story of the Gimli Glider is so incredible, I will never forget that!
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There is a movie about it, but I think it could do with a big budget remake 🤔
One thing you forgot: wenn people jump from great night's and with 500 mph of speed, the jumpers will be dispersed in much bigger area than it's feasible to search with helicopters or planes. Above water the chances of survival will be much less.
At that speed you practically instantly die. There are crash sites where aircraft disintegrated at great height, where the bodies they found were all without clothes and body hair. Basically scrubbed clean by the airflow during the "egress".
That seems unlikely given the tensile strength of hair and the 6 or 7 G deceleration for a couple of seconds is not unsurvivable. Flail injuries are possible, but I doubt it would remove body hair unless this is caused by entering a cloud of burning kerosene.
So you're saying crashing into land double the speed has much higher survival chance? lmao.
@@MGZetta No, I'm saying that the people are much harder to find in the sea. They are drifting away, drowning, going under, being nibbled on by sharks, etc. On land there are only animals to nibble on them. They won't move much if they are dead or wounded.
And since they jumped off by parachute, the crashing part of the plane is of no concern.
@@moranjackson7662 A complete stick of military paratroopers drowned because they were dropped 5 minutes too early and not retrieved in time. So imagine civilians.
I’ve brought my Skydiving Rig on a commercial flight many times(traveling to skydive elsewhere). And every time people would ask me about this. I’d explain basically everything in this video and assure them that if the plane goes down I’ll be just as dead as everyone else :) and that my Rig is about as useful as their neck pillow in an emergency… probably less so, not as soft you see ;)
😆 brilliant comment, thanks!
I've also brought mine, but when people give me funny looks, I like to say, "just in case"
just jump when the plane is about to crash
@@Uranatis the speed wouldn’t be by slower, quite the opposite.
@@Uranatis Ah, yes. The Bugs Bunny jump.
My son used to ask me the sorts of questions this channel answers. "Why is the sky blue?" "What do rockets push against?" "Who is Mandy and why did Barry Manilow send her away?"
id rather take my chances w a parachute than staying in a nosediving plane
I've seen that most plane crashes happen so low and within 5-20 seconds that you probably won't have time in 90% of plane crashes
Flying is the safest way to travel. Far Safer than driving and even walking.
Flying via Squirell suit roof top BASE jumping IS NOT safer bruh!
Flying is the second most safe form of travel. Only lifts are safer. (Or so I have heard)
Its very sad cars are so dangerous. They, in North america, are killing similar amounts of people to guns. Its sad we(More specifically North america), live in such a a car-centric world.
If the plane is at a high enough altitude to make parachutes a lifesaving option, the plane has altitude enough to buy time to remedy the issue or choose another runway to land on.
Such a comment could only be produced by a mind with extremely low IQ
If a passenger plane is at a high enough altitude to make parachuting an option, then the cabin is pressurised and you're NOT opening the door without a small explosive.
not if youre flying over a mountain range
@@aetheriality The cool thing about mountain ranges is you can navigate away from the highest elevation.
@@syndrome5372 That's why i always bring small explosives everytime I travel
Simply because most accidents happen at takeoff or landing when a parachute would be useless and stuff that does happen at altitude usually happens very quickly.
People are also vastly different sizes. Imagine going through all those hoops to implement something that probably wouldn't work when ultimately only a percentage of passengers would be able to don such a suit. Children, big and tall people, pregnant women, etc would likely not end up with something that fits so trying to put them on whether it fits or not would essentially be a gamble.
An interesting video! Though I think with a few changes you could make it something that people would pay for. It's the illusion of safety we're talking about here. You'd just need a door that can be ejected, and procedures to get the quickly plane down below to where the oxygen is, and then all you'd need is a simple parachute per passenger. I think perhaps you're overthinking the vital need for training, in an emergency situation someone hands you a parachute it's going to be better than nothing, and you just pull the handle when you're falling and hope for the best. Assuming you can fight your way to the exit through a crowd of desperate people. Perhaps that's something people would pay extra for, to have that reassurance of potential survival in a situation that usually you're completely at it's mercy. But even then I'd still have to agree it's really rather pointless, perhaps something for you to ponder while you find yourself pinned to the back of a falling plane by extreme G-Forces. 😆
The chute could easily be designed with an automatic release so no one had to pull any handles. Biggest problem I see is getting a planeload of passengers out 4-6 doors in a reasonable amount of time. I bet 90% of them will freeze when they are in the doorway (to be then shoved out energetically by the people behind them whose trousers are starting to smolder).
I can totally see something like this being a thing if plane crashes were likely. But they're such one-in-a-million scenarios that, you know, it will always be a waste for the airlines.
It's not like seatbelts, which are necessary because car accidents do happen to people throughout their lives.
The real simple solution would be to put 4 to 6 giant parachute on the top of the plane. If you save the plane you definitively save people inside.
Informative and fun. Provide parachutes for commercial airlines really cost huge amount of money... And... More risky(more than 90% passengers are likely lack of knowledge in parachuting).
One thing not mentioned is the recovery of passengers. Imagine if all 350 passengers onboard A350 or a 787 would be able to jump from a plane travelling even at 200km/h at 10000 feet, that would cover an area of small country. Good luck finding injured people from the area. Even if they jumped on land and not an ocean. And like mentioned before, if a plane can fly at 10000 feet and stable speed, that plane is capable to land and no-one has to jump.
the idea is survival...finding them later is easy...actually as per your numbers and assuming every person will take 5 seconds to jump then they will be spread in an area of 3.9km diamtre, Definitely not a small country...a busted old helicopter can find them
@@mizzorian You're assuming that all of them jumped from the same spot in the matter of seconds. Truth is, if such a case were to happen, you'd be more likely to have the first person jumping about 3 minutes & like at least 10 kilometers away from the very last guy in the plane, due to the fact that the plane is still flying at a speed comparable to an f1 car on the track, when these passengers jump. With that said, your spread would be more likely to be well above 30km in diameter, than within 3.9km.
@@FalconWindblader actually we are both wrong...I dont remember my initial calculations, but running my numbers again gave me a diametre of 98km...that is huge area
@@mizzorian I wasn't wrong. i did note that the numbers i came up with was conservative right from the start, & the actual numbers could be way bigger.
@@mizzorian Plane flying even at low speed of 300km/h, and lets say it takes 5 seconds for one passenger to exit the plane, that would be 0,4km per passenger, multiple that by 300 passengers, that would be 120km. And as we know, five seconds is never gonna happen per person, counting the winds and other factors, I'd say all 300 passengers would spread in area about the same as Slovenia.
This video needs to be Debunked. Need more statistics. His logic could also be applied to fire extinguishers in a house ( not trained, not home, fire expands to fast). Remember "if it would only save one life" thing. Even if the plane could not descend to a safe altitude to jump. The affects of high altitude would be worth the risk, and a good portion of people would live (depending how high). The parachutes would just have auto-open features (that already exist). The plane can equalize pressure to open the door at any altitude. The main reasons why there is no parachutes would be expense, liability of training, and the probability of its benefit.
Great animations. I laughed through most of this and love that it’s both entertaining and very informative. Keep up the good work!😂😂
That smooth transition to the sponsor was, well, smooth. Bravo!
😆 thanks Melissa
Alternative is put parachutes on the plane. Or, allow passengers with proper parachute training and qualifications to bring their own parachute, temperature suit, gas tank, and modify each passenger plane with access to a lowered back door to parachute out. But, that's a lot. Lol
What about equipping the whole plane with several parachutes like the ones for them spacecrafts
Some small planes are installed with parachute systems capable of supporting the whole aircraft in a slow and survivable descent back to Earth. In theory, it could be possible to simply scale this technology up and apply it to larger planes. Though there are critics who have some serious concerns with the feasibility of attaching parachutes to massive airliners.
@@DebunkedOfficial It's been researched. An airliner is a fragile beast, you'd need to have many attachment points, and the weight of the system would greatly inhibit passenger capacity and range. Then you'd have to slow down to a speed that would destroy the parachutes.
But airliners no longer fall out of the sky as they did in decades past, so it's moot anyway.
All Cirrus airplanes, including their little jet, have parachutes, as do many light sport and experimental aircraft.
@@DebunkedOfficial Cannot be done, because metal fatigue.
@@UncleKennysPlace thanks for the extra info 👍
@@andromaxbse6459 How does metal fatigue figure into a one-time event?
Most things in this video is correct. However commercial planes can slow down to 300 km/h as long as the flaps are working. Planes while normally cruising at 30k feet can go down to 10k feet. If there is a cabin decompression event pilots are trained to glide down to 10k feet
I don’t need a license to jump out of a plane that’s going to kill me anyway, I’ll take my chances with a parachute
But what if the airliner has pilots?
They could lower the altitude to sub 14,000 feet, slow the speed down and depressurise the cabin so that the doors open?
The passengers may not have any training but if the pilots are convinced that a safe landing isn't possible then the passengers may wanna fancy their chances anyway, rather than just dying in their seats.
If they have enough control of the plane to do all of that, then they probably have enough control for an emergency landing on water or in an open field.
@@dexteradams6515That would be my thought as well.
@@dexteradams6515but the plane going below 14,000 feet will happen in absolutely every situation.
@@MrHarumakiSensei Not if it crashes on a high mountain.
@@RobertR3750 OK, you got me there!
So in order to successfully parachute jump from a jet liner, you not only need extensive training, but also need to have the plane fly at conditions in which it is already performing a likely very safe emergency landing at the nearest suitable runway.
Indeed 😆
This is the best reason why not have parachutes.
Why would captain order them to jump if he is landing it safely? Lmao. Why would you need licence to jump to save your life? You ain't collecting points, you're trying to save your life. Lol. If you fail, that's a fucking good try instead of those died in the plane because they don't have a licence to pull a rope. Lol.
@@MGZettaYou are a child and you don't know what you're talking about.
Plus, when a plane is plummeting toward the ground your are either pulling multiple Gs or are essentially weightless, making even the evacuation of a SEAL team unlikely to impossible.
A lot of these points can easily be challenged. Speed of 500 mph and altitude of 36,000 ft is a healthy plane. One that is struggling to stay in the air is likely slower and lower. I've been trained on skydiving and they're right, about six hours is appropriate for individual jumps, but in life and death, I think most would take their chances with a parachute rather than surviving a crash. Getting people out of the plane on time would certainly be the biggest challenge and not hitting anything upon exit would be a challenge as well. However, saving a few people is better than saving zero people. Another huge challenge that they didn't mention is the terrain below. Landing a parachute in the forest or mountains could easily mean death on impact. A water landing might result in a slower more painful death than dying in a crash. I tell you what though, if I'm about to crash over Kansas, I'll take that parachute every single time!
Very well crafted ad, good job!
Just take the time to try and imagine how everyone felt sitting in that Jet gliding for 17 minutes with no engine noise.... 😮
There’s a pretty good mayday episode on that crash where they do interviews with some of the crew and passengers
I don’t have to imagine. I’ve been there and done that in a military transport C-141 over the Pacific Ocean. It’s not as scary as it seems. A little unnerving. But, not scary. Then again, I was a paratrooper. I was also probably still groggy from being asleep on a pallet of parachutes. Isn’t that ironic? Don’t cha think? A little too ironic, I really do think.
@@deanfowlkes No scary for someone like you who are trained, but imagine hundreds of women crying and screaming all the time
@@tiagobordin6580 - You may be right. I think it is more about the personality and less about the training. I was that way before the training. It was because of that personality that I went through the training in the first place. Heights, speed, big crowds, public speaking, etc don’t scare me. However, the things that do frighten me would probably make you laugh. 🤭
Great video, learned all sort of interesting facts.
Thanks to Stu and all the team for their efforts.
Thank you for this message. We really appreciate it!
I think the most realistic is ejectable seats,so the passenger straps on the seat,oxygen supply is on the seat aswell,and they get ejected below the plane
Wouldn’t work, the plane would be falling faster than you at the time of ejection and you would slam into the under belly. The amount of force to eject you fast enough downward would likely snap your neck.
@@nightmarekanna2922 yeah, i dont get the downwards
Cost of an ejection seat is about $140k. That's ignoring the cost of engineering a way to install them all. We'll roll that into the cost of your ticket, not mine. Also the weight added by the ejection seats would be more than half of what the plane can carry. So I'm guessing you're the one who will take one for the team and leave your stuff behind?
@@claytonberg721not that serious lol 😂
300 ejectable seats? You'll likely die by hitting another passengers
Good breakdown. This is why it shows that u need to go depth to analyze something instead of assuming that an idea is good just cuz it sounds good.
It would also depend on the fall; I doubt passengers like on AirFrance would have the ability to get out of their seats because of the intensity of the fall. The descent would need to be steady to where the G forces would even allow them off.
Now do the video showing why you can't jump from a helicopter right before it crashes and survive.
That's actually one I've been thinking of doing 😉
Although I agree that your best best is staying with the plane (the vanishing small risk that anything will happen on your flight, PLUS, the pilots are trained to make the best go of the least destructive landing). That being said, if the plane is bad off enough that it can't stay up, chances are that it's air speed HAS dropped to the 100-150 mph level. Proof of this would be apparent by watching how quickly the plane is plummeting. Many planes have status monitoring displays on the seat screens, so if the speed was low enough, you'd definitely want to make the jump.....particularly because the best pilot in the world can't keep the plane up once stall speed is reached. Also, stalled/dropping planes tend to spin (not certain, but very likely) and that would throw the skydiver clear of hull impacts...assuming he made it to a rear exit to begin with.
BUT WHAT ABOUT HAVING SOME SPECIALIZED TUBES INTO WHICH 3-5 PEOPLE WOULD GO IN AND THE TUBE WOULD BE PARACHUTED INSTEAD?
I wrote in caps to ensure visibility of my comment as i'm quite curious
Could you imagine 100+ u trained terrified passengers trying to put on a parachute and jump out of a plane successfully
Many of what has been discussed here can be solved easily, the high altitude problem for oxygen and temperature is really not a problem because a crashing or falling airplane eventually drops altitude intentionally or not, second fast and high-pressured air can be solved by slowing down the airplane especially if it runs out of fuel and glide, the only things needed are parachutes and a big openable section in the back, which I think is not that hard to achieve.
But don't forget: they lock the doors! There's no possible way around that issue. Completely unsolvable problem there…
That one probably bugged me more than anything else in the video. If you're gonna say "can't parachute out because they lock the doors" then you might as well say "can't parachute out because they don't give you parachutes"
They're really not exploring the hypothetical
@@douglaswolfen7820 well, open the locks first, problem solved. :)
The issue is as he said, is due to high speed and air pressure, which is not the case when the airplane slows down, especially if the door is in the back where air drag is much less and the risk of passengers hitting the airplane is zero.
In fairness, most commercial airliner crashes that have happened throughout history which killed everyone on board happened in seconds. With a lot happening on take off or landing, or because two planes crashed into each, or a sudden electrical fault, or because an idiot Russian captain decided to let his son pilot the plane.
Either way, you'll be lucky to make it to the door, let alone skydive out.
😂😂😂OMG I should not have laughed so hard at the little people plinking off the plane! I'm weak af 😭😭
Titanic. 😉
This is a stupid argument, because it's totally impractical to give parachutes to passengers. That said, you can slow an airliner down to a speed that would not be fatal. You can also lower the planes altitude, so their lungs won't explode. Obviously, if the captain had no other choice but to parachute out all the passengers, he would NOT do it at 35,000 feet, going 500 miles per hour.
If the pilot has that much control of the plane they could just land it.
@@nulious Pilot-to-be here. Well, that's not quite right. There are several ways to reduce the altitude and speed of an aircraft, but they do not guarantee that you will be able to land the aircraft safely. For example, you can throttle down the engines and pull up the nose. This lowers the aircraft and reduces its speed. But that alone does not guarantee a safe landing.
I would!
@@nulious no
@@10cu7u5 But still way more likely scenario is to land than have all passengers jump out and survive. Even in the best case, I'd say 30% of people would survive, 70% would die jumping.
Having done sky diving a few times , there are a few reasons why there wont be any Parachutes on commercial planes , first is cost would be ridiculously high not mention the chutes will need to be checked regular , two if for example the aircraft was a airbus a 380 which can hold between 400-500 passenger the panic that would ensue would be ridiculous a lot of chutes would be twisted with each other if they all jumped at the same time and may create unnecessary deaths. Not to mention that passengers would need oxygen tanks if they are to jump above 14000 ft (hypoxia above the 14000 ) so the chute would only been used at that height and below. Then there's the weight all this would add to the payload, which intern would maybe affect what passengers can carry on board . There would also need training , and what if passengers have kids ? , truth of the merry is planes are still the most safety way of transport in the world and crashes etc are rare.
Every argument made here is nullified by the reality that parachutes would make at least a couple people more likely to survive.
Oh, no one would know how to use them, jumping out would be difficult, evacuation would be chaotic, etc.... so?
The alternative is certain death.
Plane's too high? Not for long, it's going down.
At the end of the day the cost is all that's relevant.
Mid debunk.
Amazing video as always.
I was never nervous about flying until I was in Europe and I flew on Roman Airlines and the first announcement from the pilot was "we who are about to die salute you"
So what happened?
LOL 🤣
That would be pretty expensive
there totally should be a way for the whole roof of any plane to get removed while the seats in sets would be ejected out as a pod (pod being self contained meaning has a bit of air and you woudent freeze) with parachute to all passengers and flight crew which would land safely to the ground and if its on sea then make it botany essentially guaranteeing survival incase the worse happens 35000 feet in the air yeah it would cost a lot more money to implement this into every airplane but ild rather a way to guarantee survival then the plummet to the earth
And that's not even mentioning that you have no idea/control over where you land. Might end up in an ocean, lake, desert, mountaintop, ravine... wilderness filled with dangerous animals...
Indeed!
He hasn’t even mentioned the fact that g forces probably won’t allow you to even get up from your seat when the plane is falling from the sky 😂
It depends on how it's falling, planes have wings, they don't just fall out of the sky like a rock, they usually glide.
@@norma8686 did you see the most recent Chinese airline crash?
@@studymapai he said "usually"
Meh. Einstein 2nd law of motion says that you are moving the same with plane. And you could stand. Sort of...
Come oguys, what happened to your imaginations?
How about it's in an uncontrollable spin (pick any direction) , pinning everything to the roof, sides or front to back...
I’ve always wondered why planes don’t have giant parachutes for the whole plane
Its simple, it would take too much space and add weight = less room for passengers and higher cost. If there is anything airlines hate its cost, got to keep the profits.
Do you realize just how big and complicated a parachute for a commercial jet would have to be? That's not something you could just plop on.
Despite the potential issues this is the only feasible solution. It takes far too long to evacuate the passengers in the event of an emergency. I believe the system could be designed so the tail would break off and parachutes would be deployed.
Simply because commercial airliners are too heavy. Aircraft parachutes do exist, but only for small aircraft.
I remember reading once that for a 747 you'd need something like dozens of parachutes, each the size of a football field, to slow the rate of descent enough for the impact to be survivable.
@@xyz__________7218no. It’s not the space and weight for the shutes. It’s that you would need to build separate pods that could have independent shoots. The logistics of building a jet and attachments for shutes are different.
Better to just make the planes not crash.
@6:15 even heard the sound of the lungs going out 😂 appreciate the details in this bro, had a good laugh.
The sponsor hook in was so smooth I nearly slid off my chair 😂 Great vid, mate.
Thank you very much ☺️
I bet when airliners get in enough trouble that jumping out looks appealing, they are no longer traveling at 400+ mph. Also, the door openings could be equipped with a wind deflector that can go out in the slipstream and allow you to start your drop straight down (with respect to the fuselage). As far as the breathing kit, there is already an oxygen mask for every seat on board, just make them removable.
So you are trying very hard to undo something like 10 years of commertial airliner aerodynamic development (needs more engine power, decrease gliding range) for barely any help during unlikely event of emergency during cruise.
How about advance aerodynamics further so during the same event plane just glides further, potentially reaching airport. Also during normal flight - save fuel so airline is profitable and can actually perform all required maintenance.
how do you like the idea of turning a 12h+ international flight into a 24h+ flight?
If the emergency happens at a high enough altitude and in a steady enough trajectory (eg. you're not being violently thrown around the cabin or sujected to extreme g forces) that you have the time and ability to rig up a parachute and removable oxygen mask and successfully evacuate, then there would more chance the plane could make a successful emergency landing giving you a much greater chance of survival. Especially compared to throwing yourself out haphazardly into air that is freezing and you cannot breathe.
Plane crashes don't always have 100% fatalities you know.
Wonder how expensive it would be to install trap door under every seat and have every seat installed with parachutes inside them.
Not quite the same, but ejector seats in fighter jets cost around $250,000. Thanks for watching
The installation of trap doors under each seat would increase the weight of the aircraft so much that it probably couldn't get the aircraft to leave the ground. That will insure maximum safety for sure!!!!
You see there's one problem that you failed to mention in this video. I'm simply built different and half of these things don't affect me. So I would be able to use a parachute and survive 😎
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95 mph is relatively slow to me then again im a static line jumper so i jump out of planes going 115-150 knots
But it's still more chances to survive with parachute than without it when your plane is falling, right? They could add an emergensy doors, show a short instruction to passengers... it's still would be better than just sitting there, waiting to be smashed
Exactly right.
This is stupid! If you can't get out of a plane, then design it to have an emergency hatch for parachuets. Also who the F cares about 35.000 ft! The plan can just glide to a safe altitude. The ONLY reason this wont be implemented is because of MONEY! Dont fool your self. It is not economically viable to secure passengers.
Yeah I was thinking If the plane is going down, then the problems of cold and lack of breathable air will solve themselves pretty soon. Still has some logistical issues but a lot of the flaws don't seem as huge as they made them out to be.
THIS
If you have enough control of the plan to safely bring it down to jump altitude then you are very likely to have enough control to safely land it so the risk of a parachute jump is still too high on balance
If the pilot can control the plane to lower altitude or lower speed, its very likely that the pilot can do safely landing, instead of letting the passanger do jump alone without experience even in lower altitude/speed
If you can glide to a safe altitude, safe speed and keep the plane level - YOU DON' HAVE TO JUMP. The plane can land.
I thought that planes were designed to glide (relatively calmly) back to safety, much like Flight 143 (8:20). I want to know more about Fight 447 now (8:03).
So it’s cheeper to die with no parachutes then to give them one well that sucks guess anyone who is going on a plane trip today and beyond better make sure they have their will sorted out before hand?😓🤔🤨😳😑😓
I started this video with such confidence that I'll have better PRO arguments but this guy went thru them all....one by one, good job, sir.
Thank you for answering a question that was lingering in my head for so many years.
Glad to have answered it 👌 Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
So because it’s unlikely to survive we shouldn’t even try and be provided with parachutes? 🤔
They'd much rather you die in a crash, no lawsuits.
Very interesting, I actually had that question on my first (and so far last) flight
Glad to have answered it! Thanks for watching and commenting!
I've got to be honest... if I board a plane that has an emergency parachute for every passenger, I'm probably getting right back off and finding a different plane that doesn't think it's going to crash.
No such airplane that is completely safe. Planes are not immortal gods. Your life is at risk at all times to some extent.
@@GamingTechReviewAnd yet it's still a thousand times safer the the PoS old car I have to drive to work and back everyday.
LMAO!!!! The people dinging off the wings I CANT 😂😂😂
Aesop's moral to the story is, if men were meant to fly they would have wings. Also, if you are on a troubled plane going down, you are going to die. Enjoy your flight.
IS SOOOO UNDERRATED the fact that we figured out how to get a bunch of metal to bend every law of physics in our favor, made it accessible, and even economical… So underrated. That’s crazy! 😝
It’s not really underrated…maybe by some stupid people I guess? But most normal intelligent people appreciate the miracle of air travel…
The smoothest transition to an ad in the history of TH-cam!
The only solution I ever came up with that makes parachutes feasible would be a static line system hidden in the void above the passenger cabins with access points at each door.
Weight is still an issue but not as much, people get to the door, put on a harness and jump followed by their already open chute.
Of course people would just panic and it wouldn’t work because of this but this I think is the best solution should airlines ever start using them.
well and what about a big parachute for the plane instead of 100 small parachutes?
Boeing is on it....The blown out door is the event ...and the means of escape all in one. Now you know what to bring for your carry-on.
It's simply a matter of looking at what type of landing the plane will make: If it's got wings and attitude control, stay with the plane as the well-trained Pilot landing is your best bet. HOWEVER, if there's terminal damage to the plane (such as wing loss) and you're below stall speed, you ARE going to crash in an uncontrolled manner. At that point, Pilot expertise is irrelevant and if you have a 'chute...use it. Make your way to the rear exit and...exit. Planes have all sorts of handholds so it can be done. Harrowing, perhaps, but it can be done. Furthermore, if the plane fuselage is spinning, a rear exit will help toss you away from the plane and prevent hull impacts. Watch out for old ladies on the way out as they are really grabby/clingy in an emergency......(kidding).
These animations are fantastic I don’t know how you did it
Id rather try my luck and jump out then wait and see. The odds have to heavily favor the guy jumping. They just dont wanna pay for them
They could wait until 18k ft.. its just they wont spend $ for parachute
Well done. Thank you for this! Love the animation too 😁
Thank you for watching and commenting 😊