All the time! It's so annoying. My gloves all have a wiper on the index finger and that is hitting the switch after a turn and using the clutch. I don't use the quick shifter in low rev and speed.
Having picked up my new one a few days ago, I wondered what the clatter was from the middle of the bike... Now you've let me know. Indicator button now works like normal on the 23 model with no issues.
I have a 2022 and I’ve about 5K miles on it now. For the first time I accelerated as hard as I could following a sport bike, holy shit did the handbars start shaking side to side, I had a 15 SDR and never had that issue. I assume it’s all the length and travel in the forks. Next time I’ll lean WAY forward to try and keep more weight on the front end!
It will still do it. I've put thicker oil in the steering damper, dropped your forks another 5mm both helped but it's still there. Next is tyres but I begrudge swapping them out until needed.
If you never go off-road, ignore the stated manual slack, you don't need that amount of slack. Hate that indicator switch. Yes, self cancel is too long- my old 1982 RD350LC had better self cancellers. Yup, cubby-hole is too small for a real phone. Not had your BT issues, mine has worked fine with iPhone, I get names\ numbers\ skipping tracks works fine (I also have a Cardo headset).
Great video mate I have a 21 plate sas 1 I’ve never experienced chain slap at all but I clean and lube often 2/3 indicator switch never had a problem I don’t use auto cancel just do it myself think it’s more a if you forget feature 4 the cubby hole is useless I plug the phone into the socket under the screen with an adapter and phone on quad lock 5 connectivity is average I use shockwave and I’ve found it better if set to corded headset and just connected to your phone not the screen Niggly little issues but Still a great bike tho never fails to make me smile every ride
A clean chain on 1190/1290 makes a huge difference in rolling resistance and sound. Riding without earplugs I can easily hear the difference of clean vs dirty chain.
Yep that chain can get real noisy on rough ground, but if your on good tarmac, its OK. A good trade off for the extended swingarm though as the handling is much better as a result. You can get your indicator self cancel time altered by the KTM guys at your next service - got mine down to 6 flashes.....Yes the indicator assembly is a pigs ear. Another thing you obviously dont have is the handbrake / hill hold... dont get me started and at £180.... The one on my H-D Pan Am was stunning...Maybe KTM need to look at their ' Is it fit for purpose department'...as a lot isnt inc that stupid cubby hole..... a wasted opportunity if ever. Hey ho - get the bike out on dry free flowing roads and all is forgotten (almost).... ride safe.
I have the hill start assist, I have the full tech pack, I tend to hold the brake regardless so it never entered my head but the fact it switches off before you move away is a pain to be fair.
Regarding Bluetooth , had similar problem but actually you don’t need to connect helmet and phone separately to the bike. Connect your helmet to your phone and then when you go the the myride Bluetooth option for the helmet, chose wired. It will connect much faster and solve audio issues and you can still control audio from the handlebar. At least worked for me with iPhone and Sena … ride safe!!
Have you ridden an Africa Twin? If so, is the AT worthy as it pertains to adequate power, good ride and handling? Would you consider an AT, or there is no comparison?
@@Dakar_Steve please keep me posted as to the cause and repaires , as it seems to be a frequent issue on these engines. My 28.000 mile 1190 Adventure also is starting to have a tick
@@Dakar_Steve The irony is that I sold my 2016 GS LC because I got crazy with paying so much money and having an engine that made such an awful rattle (ticking) at warm idle. So I got a very young 2nd hand LC8 and was very happy (also saw on youtube that the new 1250 gs also had the left cylinder racket problem) But now my LC8 has a ticking (rear cylinder) as well and my gut was pushing me towards the 2023 model, but hearing yours frightens me. All the bikes I'd want, have cam chain tensioner issues (or cam pulley slack issues) it seems. Are we to buy Africa Twins? And by the way, the 1190 adventure also has that chain slap issue. I didn't hear it on the 2022 Super Adventure S I rode as test bike, so I thought it was solved, but...no again.
Generally the mechanical noise from the 1290 Super Adventures is awful. My 2018 is clatery at best. Ear plugs help 😂. I can't understand why the 1290 Super Duke doesn't suffer the same awfulness.
I'm awaiting parts, there is a known issue so if it's noisy I suggest getting your dealer to check it out. Once mine is sorted there will be an update video.
@@Dakar_Stevetry restarting your phone...whereever you occur bluetooth problems it's time to restart your phone or other device. That's what i was told :)
You missed 5 things that are easily more annoying than the USB charge port location… 1. The “KTM wobble” between 30-40mph with a steady throttle or cruise control on… Mine is a lot better than it was with different tyres fitted, more preload and no top box, but it can be unruly to some! 2. Wind noise from the stock screen and mirrors! It’s almost unbearable even with earplugs in, a naked bike is better! 3. Relative lack of engine braking below about 4k rpm… For some reason KTM have engineered MSR to suddenly give you literally no engine braking as you slow down through about 4k, above this threshold engine braking is nice and predictable, but then suddenly the bike behaves like an old school 2 stroke and carries way too much momentum… 4. The brakes… They are just about adequate is all I can say about them, and nowhere near as good as Brembo M50’s or Stylema’s on the competition bikes… 5. The stock seats are woefully uncomfortable! The Powerparts ergo seats are better, but still not amazing, and they’re not cheap either. But the stock seats need resigning to the bin! I’m ignoring the lack of heated grips and tech pack as standard, as despite me believing they should come stock, I am assured by many owners that they don’t want them and/or at least want the choice to pay for them or not… 🤷🏻♂️ Despite all this… I wouldn’t change the bike for anything else! I am planning to buy the updated switchgear to get rid of the horrid indicator switch, and possibly a brake upgrade at some point in the near future though…
I do agree things like heated grips and rider modes should be included on a bike of this price. Personally I have no issues with the brakes, I had a SDR with stylemas before this and I didn't rate the brakes on that. I know what you mean about the MSR taking over but I suspect it's a safety thing to stop the rear wheel locking. I don't have any wind noise issues at all, it could be your helmet, I usually ride with an LS2 Explorer (wind does catch the peak) and sometimes with my HJC but not often. The HJC is noticeably louder.
@Dakar_Steve I had all the things you mentioned, on mine but they never bothered me. I absolutely loved mine until I realised I didn't need anything so heavy. Downsized to an 890 duke R
@Dakar_Steve ye, definitely not the bike to do offroad, unless you enjoy self punishment. For offroad, I'd go the 690 enduro route. Even the 890 adventure is too heavy for offroad, unless you're 6ft odd and 15 stone, which I am neither
My #1 complaint is the location of the high beam switch. When I wear winter gloves I often accidentally brush it and turn the highs on.
Yeah me too sometimes.
All the time! It's so annoying. My gloves all have a wiper on the index finger and that is hitting the switch after a turn and using the clutch. I don't use the quick shifter in low rev and speed.
@@hermannschmidt9788 yep. I usually notice when I start the bike on the next ride 🤣
Move the switch along the handlebars a bit, so its away from the grip, problem solved
@@bikerguy3339 First thing I tried! Not possible. The switch block is locked into a specific position. You cannot move it anywhere else.
Having picked up my new one a few days ago, I wondered what the clatter was from the middle of the bike... Now you've let me know. Indicator button now works like normal on the 23 model with no issues.
Switchgear was updated for '23 I believe
I have a 2022 and I’ve about 5K miles on it now. For the first time I accelerated as hard as I could following a sport bike, holy shit did the handbars start shaking side to side, I had a 15 SDR and never had that issue. I assume it’s all the length and travel in the forks. Next time I’ll lean WAY forward to try and keep more weight on the front end!
It will still do it. I've put thicker oil in the steering damper, dropped your forks another 5mm both helped but it's still there. Next is tyres but I begrudge swapping them out until needed.
If you never go off-road, ignore the stated manual slack, you don't need that amount of slack. Hate that indicator switch. Yes, self cancel is too long- my old 1982 RD350LC had better self cancellers. Yup, cubby-hole is too small for a real phone. Not had your BT issues, mine has worked fine with iPhone, I get names\ numbers\ skipping tracks works fine (I also have a Cardo headset).
Great video mate I have a 21 plate sas
1 I’ve never experienced chain slap at all but I clean and lube often
2/3 indicator switch never had a problem I don’t use auto cancel just do it myself think it’s more a if you forget feature
4 the cubby hole is useless I plug the phone into the socket under the screen with an adapter and phone on quad lock
5 connectivity is average I use shockwave and I’ve found it better if set to corded headset and just connected to your phone not the screen
Niggly little issues but Still a great bike tho never fails to make me smile every ride
They are a brilliant bike! Yes just niggling little issues but nothing that really takes away from the bike.
A clean chain on 1190/1290 makes a huge difference in rolling resistance and sound. Riding without earplugs I can easily hear the difference of clean vs dirty chain.
I usually slightly over tighten my chain.
Me too
what about crappy AFR and other EURO5 limitation, stalling at idle is ok?
I have no issues with emissions, stalling or anything to do with euro 5 regulations.
I have a number 6 Steve. When you stopped to put the phone in the pocket it sounded like a taxi lol. Good video pal. I'm waiting for the gen 3 GT
The noise is getting resolved. It was better when I picked it up but not 100%. Will see what the dealer comes back with
Yep that chain can get real noisy on rough ground, but if your on good tarmac, its OK. A good trade off for the extended swingarm though as the handling is much better as a result. You can get your indicator self cancel time altered by the KTM guys at your next service - got mine down to 6 flashes.....Yes the indicator assembly is a pigs ear. Another thing you obviously dont have is the handbrake / hill hold... dont get me started and at £180.... The one on my H-D Pan Am was stunning...Maybe KTM need to look at their ' Is it fit for purpose department'...as a lot isnt inc that stupid cubby hole..... a wasted opportunity if ever. Hey ho - get the bike out on dry free flowing roads and all is forgotten (almost).... ride safe.
I have the hill start assist, I have the full tech pack, I tend to hold the brake regardless so it never entered my head but the fact it switches off before you move away is a pain to be fair.
Regarding Bluetooth , had similar problem but actually you don’t need to connect helmet and phone separately to the bike. Connect your helmet to your phone and then when you go the the myride Bluetooth option for the helmet, chose wired. It will connect much faster and solve audio issues and you can still control audio from the handlebar. At least worked for me with iPhone and Sena … ride safe!!
Nice tip. I'll give it a try with my cardo.
Thank! Great advice!!! Are you using the Sena SC2?
@@Barolos I'm using a cardo packtalk bold
Have you ridden an Africa Twin? If so, is the AT worthy as it pertains to adequate power, good ride and handling? Would you consider an AT, or there is no comparison?
I've not ridden the AT, I like the look of them but once you've had that KTM engine it's hard to give it up.
nie masz czego porównywać AT jest odczuwalnie słabsze do turystyki we dwoje z bagażem w górach słabo
Your LC8 is quite noisy, valvetrain noise (timing chain?)
Yes. It's being looked at as we speak
@@Dakar_Steve please keep me posted as to the cause and repaires , as it seems to be a frequent issue on these engines. My 28.000 mile 1190 Adventure also is starting to have a tick
@@Westside7be will do. Once sorted there will be an update video. Mine only does it once the engine is upto temperature.
@@Dakar_Steve The irony is that I sold my 2016 GS LC because I got crazy with paying so much money and having an engine that made such an awful rattle (ticking) at warm idle. So I got a very young 2nd hand LC8 and was very happy (also saw on youtube that the new 1250 gs also had the left cylinder racket problem) But now my LC8 has a ticking (rear cylinder) as well and my gut was pushing me towards the 2023 model, but hearing yours frightens me. All the bikes I'd want, have cam chain tensioner issues (or cam pulley slack issues) it seems. Are we to buy Africa Twins? And by the way, the 1190 adventure also has that chain slap issue. I didn't hear it on the 2022 Super Adventure S I rode as test bike, so I thought it was solved, but...no again.
@@Westside7be funnily enough mine is also the rear cylinder. I don't think I could give up the KTM grunt to switch to another manufacturer.
Yes, need Apple Car play on KTM and all manufacturers ❤
1 - 4 I totally agree with ... got same probs with mine
Just niggly little things that could have been easily remedied. It's hard to pick fault with this bike.
Generally the mechanical noise from the 1290 Super Adventures is awful. My 2018 is clatery at best. Ear plugs help 😂. I can't understand why the 1290 Super Duke doesn't suffer the same awfulness.
I'm awaiting parts, there is a known issue so if it's noisy I suggest getting your dealer to check it out. Once mine is sorted there will be an update video.
I have no problems with the Bluetooth. Names come up . Possible problems with your phone?
My phone works fine on everything else, the biggest issue for me was the sound quality and choppy playback.
@@Dakar_Stevetry restarting your phone...whereever you occur bluetooth problems it's time to restart your phone or other device. That's what i was told :)
Spot on vid mate.
Ta. Thought I'd set it for Wednesday 🤣🤣🤦🤦
You missed 5 things that are easily more annoying than the USB charge port location… 1. The “KTM wobble” between 30-40mph with a steady throttle or cruise control on… Mine is a lot better than it was with different tyres fitted, more preload and no top box, but it can be unruly to some! 2. Wind noise from the stock screen and mirrors! It’s almost unbearable even with earplugs in, a naked bike is better! 3. Relative lack of engine braking below about 4k rpm… For some reason KTM have engineered MSR to suddenly give you literally no engine braking as you slow down through about 4k, above this threshold engine braking is nice and predictable, but then suddenly the bike behaves like an old school 2 stroke and carries way too much momentum… 4. The brakes… They are just about adequate is all I can say about them, and nowhere near as good as Brembo M50’s or Stylema’s on the competition bikes… 5. The stock seats are woefully uncomfortable! The Powerparts ergo seats are better, but still not amazing, and they’re not cheap either. But the stock seats need resigning to the bin!
I’m ignoring the lack of heated grips and tech pack as standard, as despite me believing they should come stock, I am assured by many owners that they don’t want them and/or at least want the choice to pay for them or not… 🤷🏻♂️
Despite all this… I wouldn’t change the bike for anything else! I am planning to buy the updated switchgear to get rid of the horrid indicator switch, and possibly a brake upgrade at some point in the near future though…
I do agree things like heated grips and rider modes should be included on a bike of this price. Personally I have no issues with the brakes, I had a SDR with stylemas before this and I didn't rate the brakes on that. I know what you mean about the MSR taking over but I suspect it's a safety thing to stop the rear wheel locking. I don't have any wind noise issues at all, it could be your helmet, I usually ride with an LS2 Explorer (wind does catch the peak) and sometimes with my HJC but not often. The HJC is noticeably louder.
nice one
So problems of 1st world!
Yes. It's an excellent bike and difficult to find faults.
Suppose if you try hard enough you can pick fault at everything. Maybe sit in your armchair to save disappointment...
I prefer to sit on the bike thanks.
Lol, so no actual issues
Just one.
@Dakar_Steve I had all the things you mentioned, on mine but they never bothered me. I absolutely loved mine until I realised I didn't need anything so heavy. Downsized to an 890 duke R
@@jammydoughnut I've considered it especially after doing some off road
@Dakar_Steve ye, definitely not the bike to do offroad, unless you enjoy self punishment. For offroad, I'd go the 690 enduro route. Even the 890 adventure is too heavy for offroad, unless you're 6ft odd and 15 stone, which I am neither