A Great interview! I've never seen this one. Jerry in his prime. Every time that I would meet up with Jerry, his first question would always be, "Johnny, how's your Mom?" I thought that was very cool. He has got to be one of the most sincere, giving, and unselfish people that I have ever been lucky enough to know. If it wasn't for my Dad Neal, I probably would have never met any of my heroes, musicians or otherwise. It's a long list, but I say, "Thanks Again, Dad!" He and Jerry were great friends, even before the infamous "Acid Tests." Someday I'll share Jerry's stories that he told me about Neal's driving. For example, Jerry would say, "Neal would know instinctively, as if by telepathy, when a truck was coming up the hill on a blind turn, so he would scoot back into the right lane, in front of the line of cars that he had just passed. I never asked him how he did it, but it was truly remarkable!" We all miss you, Jerry and Neal, and I'll see you on The Other Side. It's a date, so don't be late. I'll pick you on up in my "88," (Dad's favorite Buick). Till then, "Keep The Beat." JC
Thanks Mr Cassady! I would beg to differ about Garcia being in his "prime" though...it was actually one of the darker periods of his life as evidenced by the black tar on his fingers that are visible whenever he would turn his hands over. But still, an incredible interview, one of the greatest conversationalists ever, and even during this period, an amazing musician. A genuine genius.
@@davidstone53 I don't know that is an instant conviction of anything though. Maybe the drugs were still working for him instead of against him, at this point. Seems to be radiating clarity, warmth and real engagement, IMO. And as far as musically, it's certainly a fantastic era.
Jerry Garcia was not only an extordinary musical talent and artist, he had an extordinary mind. I think he could have accomplished anything he wanted. I pray he is resting peacefully.
Thank you Jerry for being with us all and spreading love and joy through your voice and guitar that touched my soul in such a way that no other artist ever has. You gave me hope in humankind and the inspiration to make the most of my adventure through this life. 💎🙏😇
I adore the way he handles interviews. He will chuckle and scoff at the question or premise usually with an “oh jeez …”but then launch into 5-7 mins of a completely eloquent, intelligent, deep and honest exploration and answer. Even that for Frets ? where he is at his lowest point doing lines mid interview, he is so engaging and insightful.
Jerry definitely had the gift of gab and was very articulate in communicating his perspective. This is honestly somewhat rare quality and no other member really comes close except Phil Lesh perhaps. I really wish Jerry had gotten his health together and we could enjoy some new music. I imagine he could be doing alot of acoustic and he is absolutely one of my favorite acoustic players. Thankfully there are plenty of interviews and I thought I had seen them all but this indicates there may be a few more out there.
I agree. Gosh it seems like he should of been in like an “ICU” setting there at the end like under a strict watch in a hospital, I believe he would be alive today if that were the case. Maybe 🫤
I love his comments about expectations. He really dives into the mindset it takes for the Dead to succeed. (By the way, I think this interview was done by Paul Grushkin.) Thanks for posting!
Thanks for posting this, it’s a nice little vid with two distinct segments, the official interview in the first 2/3rds followed by the casual hanging out in the final part. Happy to come across this since I’ve never seen the interview part of this, and have only seen a portion of the hanging out. So thanks again, this gives a great glimpse into 1983 Garcia and Dead worlds, both fascinating during this period and there were some spectacular performances on stage from 1980 to 85, including 83.
There's a parallel between being an eloquent communicator verbally and being an effective communicator in another language known as music. It's almost as if the facility with the spoken word and the ability to effectively convey information in a non-verbal language such as music use similar operating systems of the human mind, and, boy, did Jerry have a gift for both.
By now he was well aware, that they became even too big to stop. The poor guy knew hundreds of employees counted on the tours and millions of fans as well. The Dead will always be an historic phenomenon!
bought that book at our local Safeway when it came out. was my introduction to the dead. wore it out so bad that i threw it away eventually. need another one.
He was brilliant. It seemed like he was having trouble expressing himself early in this interview, and yet, you could see the wheels turning in his head, his struggle to find the right word or description to explain his take on a given matter or concept, and despite his struggles, he succeeds in digging down and conveying his thoughts/feelings on all he was asked. I think he was a really complex man whose life choices led him to both amazing, unforeseen from his initial perspective, professional/artistic successes, but also ironically, led to increasingly challenging and burdensome commitments he was too responsible for his own personal good/health for and would have been better off not having had to shoulder. At his core, my take on Jerry is he was given to deep contemplation of all sorts of phenomena we all recognize as that which comes from being alive, and yet, he genuinely loved it when “it” could be boiled down to living a simple, straightforward, uncomplicated life. Along with the obvious, Jerry’s love for the music, it was so clear at least for me how much he loved being alive, exerting himself in his passions, and enjoying a good laugh.
Not convinced. Jerry was onto most/all things bogus, inauthentic, fraudulent from the git go. He was too perceptive not to see where it was all heading, and astute enough to concern himself with those things his own heart, head, and hands could make sense out of. Jerry was a mensch who knew intuitively to stay clear of all things stench. Just a really remarkable human being.
There are a handful of people who have passed on that, if I had a wish come true, it would be to have a long conversation with; Abraham Lincoln, John Steinbeck, and Jerry Garcia
What he gets into starting at the 9:00 mark and going on for the next several minutes is 🤌 The respect he has for the music is always on display but here we get a peek into his mind on how it works for him internally. At 11:15 he says it's tough to talk about, and he kinda shakes it off. No wonder he hated the hero worship. You get the sense that the only hero to him was the music. And that is the magic of Jerry Garcia.
I think Jerry, having lost his father very young, had a strong appetite for tearing down the normal order of things. Somewhere in there was a scared, hurt little boy screaming "my dad is gone! things are NOT normal!"
I think everyone has had that moment where they think the performers have made eye contact with them or that in some way they have cosmically enhanced the performance.
@@richierugs6544 Yeah I remember a magnetic locking of his gaze with mine when on orange sunshine once (early 90's variety). It was like some sort of electrical conduit had been created. He probably didn't perceive it as such, but it was clear to me that the Holy Spirit was being poured out (or at least a very good facsimile of the Holy Spirit) and that something very profound and beautiful was taking place.
its amazing how i understood everything he's saying or not saying about it, the music. how it's alive an exists somewhere else. he treads lightly about his words, like as to not jinx it or do or say something that could possibly diminish it in some way. by not, defining it. i believe, is literally what made the music a formless art in some way.
Can someone name the title of the book to which they refer? Incredible story about the disappearance of that Dude at the Cap; wonder if he ever turned up?
Pretty sure his basement / apartment. There are other interviews from there. Certainly pics of him in that very room. The Frets magazine interview was conducted there. The one where Jer breaks out the blow mid interview.
@@worldmusicnashvillepodcast8280 the frets magazine interview was conducted in the basement of a female fan/friend where garcia was "living"/hiding out/getting high in between tours. This is documented. While it my be the same address, he is 100% not in a basement, as the view from the window shows.
@MainOffenderMike thanks ✌ They try showing at the end but Jerry doesn't oblige...lol Had it many years ago. Loved it because it showed the scene pre 85 explosion 🤯
These interviews from this period are awful. Like the infamous 85 Relix interview and cover. This one is as bad as that. His hands clearly have heroin tar on them. His mustache brown from smoking heroin. He’s was such a smart man as anyone who hears him talk can clearly see. Wish he figured out how to keep off those hard drugs and just as important quit smoking cigs and exercise. His heart blocks is what killed him. It’s crazy but 83 he was playing amazing on guitar. 83-86 he was using so much but still was tearing it up on stage.
Why awful? For the amount of drugs he was consuming probably at the time, he’s very articulate. I understand what you’re saying, I wish he could have gotten off dope too. Unfortunately this was Jerry Garcia, good bad or indifferent.
Not that I've had any experience with drugs, (ha ha), but a junkie needs a "maintenance dose " every day or they get really sick without one. It's sad but true. That's why Jerry's heart stopped in rehab. But he was trying! Bless his finger-pickin' heart. John Allen Cassady
@@newusernamehere4772 it goes without saying, but I’m glad you did. Maybe the smartest guy in rock-n-roll altogether? Not out of the question. Our Jerry was flat out brilliant.
A Great interview! I've never seen this one. Jerry in his prime. Every time that I would meet up with Jerry, his first question would always be, "Johnny, how's your Mom?" I thought that was very cool. He has got to be one of the most sincere, giving, and unselfish people that I have ever been lucky enough to know. If it wasn't for my Dad Neal, I probably would have never met any of my heroes, musicians or otherwise. It's a long list, but I say, "Thanks Again, Dad!" He and Jerry were great friends, even before the infamous "Acid Tests." Someday I'll share Jerry's stories that he told me about Neal's driving. For example, Jerry would say, "Neal would know instinctively, as if by telepathy, when a truck was coming up the hill on a blind turn, so he would scoot back into the right lane, in front of the line of cars that he had just passed. I never asked him how he did it, but it was truly remarkable!" We all miss you, Jerry and Neal, and I'll see you on The Other Side. It's a date, so don't be late. I'll pick you on up in my "88," (Dad's favorite Buick). Till then, "Keep The Beat." JC
That's really cool. Thank you for sharing that. I very much enjoyed it.
Thanks for that info. I’m feeling a cowboy Neal/Jerry book would wonder and happiness in these “dark days.”
Thanks Mr Cassady! I would beg to differ about Garcia being in his "prime" though...it was actually one of the darker periods of his life as evidenced by the black tar on his fingers that are visible whenever he would turn his hands over. But still, an incredible interview, one of the greatest conversationalists ever, and even during this period, an amazing musician. A genuine genius.
@@davidstone53 I don't know that is an instant conviction of anything though. Maybe the drugs were still working for him instead of against him, at this point. Seems to be radiating clarity, warmth and real engagement, IMO. And as far as musically, it's certainly a fantastic era.
Epic. Your dad was Neil Cassidy. Let's be friends!
Jerry and bear and your dad are my heros
I thought I saw every interview ever, I watched everything 100,000 times. Never saw this!!
Totally, this is a gem.
Same, I thought I had seen every Jerry interview.
Me three! 😁
Me FOUR!
Sameeee
Jerry Garcia was not only an extordinary musical talent and artist, he had an extordinary mind. I think he could have accomplished anything he wanted. I pray he is resting peacefully.
Awe man I couldn’t agree more🙏
Thank you Jerry for being with us all and spreading love and joy through your voice and guitar that touched my soul in such a way that no other artist ever has. You gave me hope in humankind and the inspiration to make the most of my adventure through this life. 💎🙏😇
I adore the way he handles interviews. He will chuckle and scoff at the question or premise usually with an “oh jeez …”but then launch into 5-7 mins of a completely eloquent, intelligent, deep and honest exploration and answer. Even that for Frets ? where he is at his lowest point doing lines mid interview, he is so engaging and insightful.
Jerry definitely had the gift of gab and was very articulate in communicating his perspective. This is honestly somewhat rare quality and no other member really comes close except Phil Lesh perhaps. I really wish Jerry had gotten his health together and we could enjoy some new music. I imagine he could be doing alot of acoustic and he is absolutely one of my favorite acoustic players. Thankfully there are plenty of interviews and I thought I had seen them all but this indicates there may be a few more out there.
I agree. Gosh it seems like he should of been in like an “ICU” setting there at the end like under a strict watch in a hospital, I believe he would be alive today if that were the case. Maybe 🫤
I like when live music and musicians get the funky and jazzy jams and songs going and when the sound in the venue is really clean and sharp
Always love Jerry’s interviews.
I could listen to him all day😊
I love his comments about expectations. He really dives into the mindset it takes for the Dead to succeed. (By the way, I think this interview was done by Paul Grushkin.) Thanks for posting!
Very fun and interesting interview. Thank you...
There are people that structure their life around the Grateful Dead. We certainly do- Garcia. Love it miss it Grateful for the memories ❤
Thank You.
Thanks for posting this, it’s a nice little vid with two distinct segments, the official interview in the first 2/3rds followed by the casual hanging out in the final part. Happy to come across this since I’ve never seen the interview part of this, and have only seen a portion of the hanging out. So thanks again, this gives a great glimpse into 1983 Garcia and Dead worlds, both fascinating during this period and there were some spectacular performances on stage from 1980 to 85, including 83.
Love this interview. Music is like an archaic form of quantum computing.
Just the coolest dude
❤⚡️💙love you Jerry G
Miss his live in concert music greatly!
The music is what it is. The Dead like playing music together and the rest is just living the life.
Soulful musician
Great interview. Sad to see how his health started to decline around that year
There's a parallel between being an eloquent communicator verbally and being an effective communicator in another language known as music.
It's almost as if the facility with the spoken word and the ability to effectively convey information in a non-verbal language such as music use similar operating systems of the human mind, and, boy, did Jerry have a gift for both.
Well said! 👍🏽
@MrWallybones Thanks
By now he was well aware, that they became even too big to stop. The poor guy knew hundreds of employees counted on the tours and millions of fans as well. The Dead will always be an historic phenomenon!
thanks
bought that book at our local Safeway when it came out. was my introduction to the dead. wore it out so bad that i threw it away eventually. need another one.
What year was that book? What was it called?
@@chinuaumano "the official book of the deadheads"
Garcia would no doubt deny it but he was obviously, clearly a Genius.
He was brilliant. It seemed like he was having trouble expressing himself early in this interview, and yet, you could see the wheels turning in his head, his struggle to find the right word or description to explain his take on a given matter or concept, and despite his struggles, he succeeds in digging down and conveying his thoughts/feelings on all he was asked. I think he was a really complex man whose life choices led him to both amazing, unforeseen from his initial perspective, professional/artistic successes, but also ironically, led to increasingly challenging and burdensome commitments he was too responsible for his own personal good/health for and would have been better off not having had to shoulder. At his core, my take on Jerry is he was given to deep contemplation of all sorts of phenomena we all recognize as that which comes from being alive, and yet, he genuinely loved it when “it” could be boiled down to living a simple, straightforward, uncomplicated life. Along with the obvious, Jerry’s love for the music, it was so clear at least for me how much he loved being alive, exerting himself in his passions, and enjoying a good laugh.
Jerry would be so disappointed with America today.
Not convinced. Jerry was onto most/all things bogus, inauthentic, fraudulent from the git go. He was too perceptive not to see where it was all heading, and astute enough to concern himself with those things his own heart, head, and hands could make sense out of. Jerry was a mensch who knew intuitively to stay clear of all things stench. Just a really remarkable human being.
Well, he was part of the 60s counterculture so I'm sure he wasn't all that thrilled with America to begin with
❤ Jerry ❤ is the King ,
He makes my heart happy.
"It [Grateful Dead] has the property of exceeding my own imagination pretty regularly. That's one of the things that's fun about it." 😍
Great interview!!
The Anticipation of Expectations 🎉😁💛🎵✌️🏞
There are a handful of people who have passed on that, if I had a wish come true, it would be to have a long conversation with; Abraham Lincoln, John Steinbeck, and Jerry Garcia
What he gets into starting at the 9:00 mark and going on for the next several minutes is 🤌
The respect he has for the music is always on display but here we get a peek into his mind on how it works for him internally. At 11:15 he says it's tough to talk about, and he kinda shakes it off.
No wonder he hated the hero worship. You get the sense that the only hero to him was the music.
And that is the magic of Jerry Garcia.
I think Jerry, having lost his father very young, had a strong appetite for tearing down the normal order of things. Somewhere in there was a scared, hurt little boy screaming "my dad is gone! things are NOT normal!"
I would think this is real early '83, he looked way different by the end of the year.
I would love to hear Jerry’s take on today’s social climate,I’m sure he’d have some interesting things to say.
I’d bet the even/under he’d find almost all of it trumped up even if that wasn’t the precise descriptive he’d use in describing it.
Jerry is very Catholic. He would've made a wonderful priest.
I think everyone has had that moment where they think the performers have made eye contact with them or that in some way they have cosmically enhanced the performance.
when you're trippin hard and he looks at you with that 'i know' look
@@richierugs6544 Yeah I remember a magnetic locking of his gaze with mine when on orange sunshine once (early 90's variety). It was like some sort of electrical conduit had been created. He probably didn't perceive it as such, but it was clear to me that the Holy Spirit was being poured out (or at least a very good facsimile of the Holy Spirit) and that something very profound and beautiful was taking place.
its amazing how i understood everything he's saying or not saying about it, the music. how it's alive an exists somewhere else. he treads lightly about his words, like as to not jinx it or do or say something that could possibly diminish it in some way. by not, defining it. i believe, is literally what made the music a formless art in some way.
Yes✌
Humble as hell, music is the focus.
Well said!
Speak it jer!
Nice one
He was 41 years old here.
Sad. I love that guy
And how old are you, here?
Crazy, he looks so much older. Poor guy looks tired. And high😇
@@howardrobinson4938nice😏🙄
It is what it is,drug use is a personal choice.
how cool would it be to be there when they listen back to a show they just did?
The guy is so damn interesting and intelligent.
thank a taper
Can someone name the title of the book to which they refer? Incredible story about the disappearance of that Dude at the Cap; wonder if he ever turned up?
Date of interview?
I’m the one that makes music that nobody likes😂😂😂😂 he is lucky that his massive talent was accepted
You can rely on it being unreliable.
Can anyone verify where this interview took place
I think his home? He’s smoking inside so i would imagine it’s somewhere where he’s comfortable or something like that? Idk just guessing
Pretty sure his basement / apartment. There are other interviews from there. Certainly pics of him in that very room. The Frets magazine interview was conducted there. The one where Jer breaks out the blow mid interview.
@@worldmusicnashvillepodcast8280 the frets magazine interview was conducted in the basement of a female fan/friend where garcia was "living"/hiding out/getting high in between tours. This is documented. While it my be the same address, he is 100% not in a basement, as the view from the window shows.
@@george.s.8491 in 1983 people smoked everywhere and anywhere. Garcia in particular literally smoked everywhere he was.
@ yeah you’re right. Especially back then. Who knows. He looks very at home and comfortable.
What book are they referencing?
The Official Book of the Deadheads
@MainOffenderMike thanks ✌
They try showing at the end but Jerry doesn't oblige...lol
Had it many years ago. Loved it because it showed the scene pre 85 explosion 🤯
The gentle giant
For someone so intelligent and astute he was very humble and would say, "I don't know" quite a bit. That's a refreshing combinaton.
What is this guy blathering about?
How terrible Nameless Nameless is! 😅
Fairly easy to follow.
Which guy? Jerry or the interviewer?
Ice cream and Owsley acid
If you have to ask...
Next stop, the sphere with dead $$$$ co…
Exactly, I was just thinking, "there's an interview that John Mayer might want to see".
These interviews from this period are awful. Like the infamous 85 Relix interview and cover. This one is as bad as that. His hands clearly have heroin tar on them. His mustache brown from smoking heroin. He’s was such a smart man as anyone who hears him talk can clearly see. Wish he figured out how to keep off those hard drugs and just as important quit smoking cigs and exercise. His heart blocks is what killed him. It’s crazy but 83 he was playing amazing on guitar. 83-86 he was using so much but still was tearing it up on stage.
Yeah, people really slam those 83-85 shows but his playing was exceptional. Singing, not so much.
Why awful? For the amount of drugs he was consuming probably at the time, he’s very articulate. I understand what you’re saying, I wish he could have gotten off dope too. Unfortunately this was Jerry Garcia, good bad or indifferent.
Still a genius ❤💙
Not that I've had any experience with drugs, (ha ha), but a junkie needs a "maintenance dose " every day or they get really sick without one. It's sad but true. That's why Jerry's heart stopped in rehab. But he was trying! Bless his finger-pickin' heart. John Allen Cassady
Maaan, I know that opiate sweat and skin tone….
look how blackened the tips of my man's fingers are. dragon = chased
Yes, you can tell he's smacked out here, from the eye contact or lack thereof.
He was working in the garden behind him before the interview 🤔
@@raygunner2437 of course he was!
God he looks awful.
You would too if you were the smartest person around you for 20 years
@@newusernamehere4772 it goes without saying, but I’m glad you did. Maybe the smartest guy in rock-n-roll altogether? Not out of the question. Our Jerry was flat out brilliant.