I have the same diesel engine in a generator and did the same thing as your mini excavator did it was the fuel filter and passed some water from condensation in the fuel tank. I put a better fuel filters on it and it solved it no more smoke and rough running. Food for the though.
Hey there, I have also had this issue a couple of times, but I was able to stop the engine by throttling down, what I found is that if I start the engine with to low rpm/throttle the engine may be forced by the first fire to run backwards, you can hear it, it sounds different starting up and running. this might be what happend here as well, but you let it run for longer then me, causing it to smoke like this. just a theory :-) happy friday
There's this story of a guy that goes to his dealer to repair his car engine. Dealer looks at it, whacks it with a hammer and car runs fine again. "That'll be 501 dollars please" "WHAT?! 501, for a whack with a hammer?!" "No, 1 dollar for the whack, 500 for knowing where."
Digger look like to me that the piston rings had gone oh stem seals burning its own oil Engine oil new digger to me looks and comfy with the roll cage going through the seat what's that all about that all about 👍👍
Mine did this today, while wife was digging some cable trench. I ran out and pulled the decomp-lever and it finally died. Will probably do nothing but try to restart it tomorrow. Thanks for the video.
@@georgesanderson8050 Started just fine. Now it happened again yesterday, almost right after cold start. Turn off and restart again without issues. Hmm...?
Hej, jag kollar på din sida o tycker den är bra,, jag har en Cx10t från Hemfint är nästan samma maskin, ditt problem med al rök och att trotteln i te funka kan vara att motorn gick baklänges kan hända med dieselmotorer när man startar dom,, bara en tanke. Mvh Kurre
Check the blow-by and the crank case ventilation, if the motor oil vapours come that way and cause the engine runaway. At runaway, the diesel engine does not use much oil at all for burning. So the oil level in the sump is not telling you much. Blue smoke is a sign of oil burning. The oil is entering the combustion chamber one way or another.
Glad you got the replacement. I hear nothing good about the ChangChai 499cc diesels that come standard with the Xiniu XN08. When I imported mine into the US 2y ago, I installed my own 420cc gasoline engine and it works great. The L100 China-clone diesels are not legal here due to emissions restrictions. As for your failure, it could be a bad governor as you said, but I suspect engine oil may be getting into the air intake thru the crankcase breather.
There are several videos on TH-cam of people building their own excavator and some people build a backup but they call it an excavator cuz they don't know the difference. An excavator can take 360° around itself without moving to tracks. A backhoe only does half of that range.
Great job sir, way to go on getting them to replace the machine. Though when doing that, you should have paid the difference and got the Kubota. Way better engine
The replacement digger was likely one that had been swapped on another warranty claim and repaired in their regional workshop. That's how most "Light machinery" is deal with for warranties these days. If this particular replacement digger WAS new, It's probably just because they didn't have any suitable like for like used machines to swap it with. MM's old one will most definatly end up going into warranty swap stock once fixed. It works out cheaper in the long run to have five mechanics repairing stuff for their whole shift in a clean workshop with all the parts and tools they might need, and paying minimum wage to couriers to exchange the faulty units. The alternative is to hire fifteen qualified mechanics, buy/rent 15 vans for them, buy 15 identical sets of tools and buy a stock of spare parts to fill those vans. Then deal with insurance, fuel cards, vehicle maintenance, and accident/breakdown contingency's (In short, set up a transport department). Then pay the mechanics industry standard wages while they spend two thirds of their working day just driving all over the country, so they can spend that remaining third of the day actually doing the work that pays the bills. Doing simple "like for like" swaps also means that if a mechanic finds that a returned machine requires replacement parts that aren't on hand, they can just start repairing another customers returned machine while they wait for parts to arrive (The customers already got a replacement machine, they don't care that their old one may take an extra 2 weeks to get fixed. They're unlikely to ever see it again anyway). If, on the other hand the mechanic had drove 2 hours to get to the faulty machine they may only have the choice of abandoning the repair, driving to the next job and rebooking that work for another day, Or having to wait around for half the day while the parts are same day couriered to them. Neither choice gives the customer a warm fuzzy feeling toward the company. It's a system that usually sounds uneconomical, but once you crunch the numbers, it can offer a lot of cost and customer benefits over the classic "Repairman in a van" way of doing things.
@@metalmusings What do you think about it? I mean is it good or bad? I also have an idea to buy one.How do you feel about that? It's very important to me, because you are an expert on this.
@@rogmeonrn719 I like it a lot. When this one failed I got a choise. Return the digger and get the money back or get another one. I got another one so it seems the options around are not better. It is small. It uses old technology - direct operated valves - so movements are a bit jerky. But it is mighty strong and does what a mini-digger should do. It saved my back when working with ton after ton of stones and boulders. I like it a lot. It is small, it is noisy and makes big impressions in the lawn when driving there. I had jobs for it for a year. I have done those and added a few more. There are still a few jobs left to do and then what? Sell it? The obvious problem with the digger is the spare parts supply. I fear the day something breaks down since it takes so long time to find th spare part and then to get it shipped. See how much work you have for a mini-digger and check the rental alternative.
seems awfully familiar to an engine running on its own oil. Either because it gets too hot, a leaking piston ring, or too much oil, or a combination of these. Would've been a relatively simple repair I would think. But anyway, you fixed it another way.
from the colour of the smoke it's very likely running on its own oil. I was't that lucky and blew up mine 3 weeks ago. i have had tripped it over on a hill side, almost upside down, and started to rev like hell on its own oil. cylinder head gone, valves gone, decompression assy gone either. So as a result `i plan to add a solenoid shut off valve on the air admission and an emergency switch
I say he got a darn good deal! can't beat the dealer just giving you a new machine. You could easily buy several of these new for the price of a used popular branded machine. It doesn't matter what brand you buy, they are all made in china
sounds like he got several hundred hours of very heavy use for Im guessing under 10k. Sounds like a great deal to me, even if he bought another one for the same price he would still be money ahead of a beat to hell name brand one.
The mill is so quiet with the new serve motors! Nice!
Always a good story. Glad it went before the warranty.
Happy ending! Good for you! Some of your other videos look cool also. Going to sub right now 👍
I have the same diesel engine in a generator and did the same thing as your mini excavator did it was the fuel filter and passed some water from condensation in the fuel tank.
I put a better fuel filters on it and it solved it no more smoke and rough running. Food for the though.
Love seeing a German man tools and I admire your precision. Very good videos, looks like a productive machine.
I think he's Swedish
@@bakeredwards he was speaking in general i believe... not about this video
Hey there, I have also had this issue a couple of times, but I was able to stop the engine by throttling down, what I found is that if I start the engine with to low rpm/throttle the engine may be forced by the first fire to run backwards,
you can hear it, it sounds different starting up and running.
this might be what happend here as well, but you let it run for longer then me, causing it to smoke like this.
just a theory :-)
happy friday
Yeah, have the same issue with mine. But it works with throttling down and restarting with more throttle
Is the engine burning its own Engine oil🇬🇧
The whole video is pleasing to the eye, a good medicine to cure obsessive-compulsive disorder
Nice! I have the same! Did you know any site for parts? Thanks!
There's this story of a guy that goes to his dealer to repair his car engine. Dealer looks at it, whacks it with a hammer and car runs fine again.
"That'll be 501 dollars please"
"WHAT?! 501, for a whack with a hammer?!"
"No, 1 dollar for the whack, 500 for knowing where."
Was that a chengchai engine or Koop engine? I had a chengchai engine and it hand grenade on me aft 150 hours of use.
Digger look like to me that the piston rings had gone oh stem seals burning its own oil Engine oil new digger to me looks and comfy with the roll cage going through the seat what's that all about that all about 👍👍
I was going to offer suggestions on what to try next, but it seems to be a moot point now you've got a replacement. :D
Is the XN10 an upgrade?
Mine did this today, while wife was digging some cable trench. I ran out and pulled the decomp-lever and it finally died. Will probably do nothing but try to restart it tomorrow. Thanks for the video.
Outcome?
@@georgesanderson8050 Started just fine. Now it happened again yesterday, almost right after cold start. Turn off and restart again without issues. Hmm...?
Did they take the other one back?
There's engine oil being dragged in lower the sump level try 20 mm less then it might work
It's called runaway. Cover the air intake.
Hej, jag kollar på din sida o tycker den är bra,, jag har en Cx10t från Hemfint är nästan samma maskin, ditt problem med al rök och att trotteln i te funka kan vara att motorn gick baklänges kan hända med dieselmotorer när man startar dom,, bara en tanke.
Mvh Kurre
Check the blow-by and the crank case ventilation, if the motor oil vapours come that way and cause the engine runaway. At runaway, the diesel engine does not use much oil at all for burning. So the oil level in the sump is not telling you much. Blue smoke is a sign of oil burning. The oil is entering the combustion chamber one way or another.
Glad you got the replacement. I hear nothing good about the ChangChai 499cc diesels that come standard with the Xiniu XN08. When I imported mine into the US 2y ago, I installed my own 420cc gasoline engine and it works great. The L100 China-clone diesels are not legal here due to emissions restrictions.
As for your failure, it could be a bad governor as you said, but I suspect engine oil may be getting into the air intake thru the crankcase breather.
Hello ,we have Japanese Kubota engine for option, it is EPA 4 engine.
What were import duties? Total cost? Where did you order from? I'm looking to get a minin excavator as well :)
is this a copy of the yanmar 10hp diesel
Every videos about excavators i see the owner could practically build one themselves,
There are several videos on TH-cam of people building their own excavator and some people build a backup but they call it an excavator cuz they don't know the difference.
An excavator can take 360° around itself without moving to tracks.
A backhoe only does half of that range.
@@TF856 what i mean is that they can all work on them from top to bottom.
Has a two-stroke engine!
the engine broke a ring.
Great job sir, way to go on getting them to replace the machine. Though when doing that, you should have paid the difference and got the Kubota. Way better engine
Lol. They replaced the entire thing rather than just doing the repair? Damn, not sure how I feel about that.
these things are so cheap, would probably cost the same to diagnose and repair to just replace lol
The replacement digger was likely one that had been swapped on another warranty claim and repaired in their regional workshop. That's how most "Light machinery" is deal with for warranties these days. If this particular replacement digger WAS new, It's probably just because they didn't have any suitable like for like used machines to swap it with. MM's old one will most definatly end up going into warranty swap stock once fixed.
It works out cheaper in the long run to have five mechanics repairing stuff for their whole shift in a clean workshop with all the parts and tools they might need, and paying minimum wage to couriers to exchange the faulty units. The alternative is to hire fifteen qualified mechanics, buy/rent 15 vans for them, buy 15 identical sets of tools and buy a stock of spare parts to fill those vans. Then deal with insurance, fuel cards, vehicle maintenance, and accident/breakdown contingency's (In short, set up a transport department). Then pay the mechanics industry standard wages while they spend two thirds of their working day just driving all over the country, so they can spend that remaining third of the day actually doing the work that pays the bills.
Doing simple "like for like" swaps also means that if a mechanic finds that a returned machine requires replacement parts that aren't on hand, they can just start repairing another customers returned machine while they wait for parts to arrive (The customers already got a replacement machine, they don't care that their old one may take an extra 2 weeks to get fixed. They're unlikely to ever see it again anyway). If, on the other hand the mechanic had drove 2 hours to get to the faulty machine they may only have the choice of abandoning the repair, driving to the next job and rebooking that work for another day, Or having to wait around for half the day while the parts are same day couriered to them. Neither choice gives the customer a warm fuzzy feeling toward the company.
It's a system that usually sounds uneconomical, but once you crunch the numbers, it can offer a lot of cost and customer benefits over the classic "Repairman in a van" way of doing things.
its a 4000 dollar machine. he probably paid 15k for it. its cheaper to just swap it out and sell the broke machine at half off
It's either auto fogging for mosquitoes or putting up smoke screen ,so the Russians can't make a direct shot on you?
The engine ran away
How long after use did it break?
After some 10 months. I did use it a lot, I think several hundred hours.
@@metalmusings What do you think about it? I mean is it good or bad? I also have an idea to buy one.How do you feel about that? It's very important to me, because you are an expert on this.
@@rogmeonrn719 I like it a lot. When this one failed I got a choise. Return the digger and get the money back or get another one. I got another one so it seems the options around are not better.
It is small. It uses old technology - direct operated valves - so movements are a bit jerky. But it is mighty strong and does what a mini-digger should do. It saved my back when working with ton after ton of stones and boulders. I like it a lot. It is small, it is noisy and makes big impressions in the lawn when driving there. I had jobs for it for a year. I have done those and added a few more. There are still a few jobs left to do and then what? Sell it?
The obvious problem with the digger is the spare parts supply. I fear the day something breaks down since it takes so long time to find th spare part and then to get it shipped.
See how much work you have for a mini-digger and check the rental alternative.
@@rogmeonrn719 it's Chinese. It has to be junk!
Especially at that price! 😁
Mosquito control at its best.
seems awfully familiar to an engine running on its own oil. Either because it gets too hot, a leaking piston ring, or too much oil, or a combination of these. Would've been a relatively simple repair I would think. But anyway, you fixed it another way.
from the colour of the smoke it's very likely running on its own oil. I was't that lucky and blew up mine 3 weeks ago. i have had tripped it over on a hill side, almost upside down, and started to rev like hell on its own oil. cylinder head gone, valves gone, decompression assy gone either. So as a result `i plan to add a solenoid shut off valve on the air admission and an emergency switch
I am disappointed. Based on your accent I was not expecting VW in your drive way. Where is the Volvo?
It just wanted some attention.
There is a saying in Sweden - "Norway and Norwegians are the best".
There is a saying in sweden - ”Norweigans are morans” :D
@@adamnilsson9210 Thanks. Nothing beats Tulip bacon.
И что умного в технологии этого крепежа??? Они бы ещё под газовый ключ сделали...... Олухи!
You get what u pay for
I say he got a darn good deal! can't beat the dealer just giving you a new machine. You could easily buy several of these new for the price of a used popular branded machine. It doesn't matter what brand you buy, they are all made in china
sounds like he got several hundred hours of very heavy use for Im guessing under 10k. Sounds like a great deal to me, even if he bought another one for the same price he would still be money ahead of a beat to hell name brand one.