@@johnsanabria3279 it had the same vulnerable points as a Spitfire - engine, pilot, coolant & oil systems, fuel systems, control systems, except it had inferior performance. It did however protect pilots in crash landings (which it had to do often because of lack of performance) because of its heavy steel tube frame. It also burned well due to an unprotected header tank.
I had the dubious honour of working with the Black Watch out in Belize in the late seventies. Whatever I thought of them and their early morning bagpipes, I'm glad that they are on our side.
South Africa punched way above their weight in both world wars. Most RAF aces where South African. Leader of the great escape was South African. South Africa also provided the Allies their first victory of WW2 when we demolished the Italians in East Africa. Outstanding considering our population was even smaller than New Zealand's
@@PhansiKhongoloza = One of our local stars & powerful leaders was South Afrikaans (I'm English BTW) - His name is Adolph Gysbert 'Sailor' Malan & commanded 74 Sqdn RAF I lived near RAF Hornchurch, his very famous Spitfire base & East London town. He was portrayed in the famous 1969 film "The Battle of Britain" by magnificent actor Robert Shaw
His story sounds similar to the Canadian ace George Beurling aka the "Falcon of Malta" fighting away from the main European theatre. He had incredible eyesight able to see planes other pilots in his squadron couldn't see and his deflection shooting was spectacular. He could down planes with minimal rounds of ammunition.
" Bayonet equiped rifle in a biplane ?" I'm sure Paddle was quite a fighter pilot but that bayonet charge at the retreating enemy sounds a bit unbelievable.
^ His name is/was/is PATTLE with two 'T's - Not "Paddle" = He's not a F'kn oar for canoes... (F.F.S) Much in the same way that Hitler is not Spitler, not Stalin even 'starving' - Got it ?
THAT WAS NO SIDE SHOW you die then you die there is no second chance and he proved he could fly and survive , I would say he was fatigued and weak and should have been grounded. Respect to that man.
He Pattle actually WAS 'Grounded' & 'Grounded officially' (it's a fact) by his own Sqdn Medical officer Pattle actually disobeyed his M.O's official orders & jumped out of a window of a locked room He ran to a spare Hurricane & grabbed a chute, despite Malaria & ridiculously high temperature I agree with what you've said, but he knew the risks & took them, despite being ill (on that very day)
@@hawnyfox3411 it was difficult to sit idle when your mates were outclassed and overwhelmed by the enemy. They fought to protect their mates & it was a strong loyal bond that the MO underestimated.
The Hurricane also had a wide base undercarriage that folded into the body unlike the Spitfire and 109 12:45 that folded up into the wings. Hence the reason why the Hurricane could taxi better than the Spit on take off and landing.
^ His own Squadron's M.O officially "ordered" him to be locked in a room with several beds & lie down Pattle took it upon himself to climb out of that locked room via fanlight windows to make his escape His keenness to 'not let down his mates' cost him his life - Remember, the B.E.F were in Greece My Grandad's Brother was there too (Gordie) & was eventually evacuated via HMS Hotspur to Crete (!) Latter eventually would've been captured @ Sphakia, but his squad decided to drive their truck along the Southern Cretan coast, to a bay where just one lone Royal Navy launch was waiting for TWO top-brass Army officers Told they had 'No chance' of being evacuated, the Naval Lt. said... "Come back @ 17:15" adding... "If they've not turned up by then, we'll smuggle you & your squad aboard" Brass didn't show & so Gordie's squad went aboard the smallish launch, only to find as they went out into the bay & drew closer, Gordie swore & said "F**k me, LOOK, it's HMS Hotspur again !!!!" Fate was kind to him & after Alexandria, he got outfitted into the new 8th Army & served in Libya, Tunis & finally on the drive thru Siciliy & finished up in Italy fighting towards 'The Gustav line' It's been said that the 'Ill feted Greek campaign' WAS Churchill's [quote] "Ill advised folly" Churchill meant well, but the logistics side of keeping our troops & RAF supplied "At the Ar$e End of the Mediterranean Sea" was never gonna end well, esp' at THAT early stage of the war That's as to WHY Pattle & other wounded & sick were not evacuated more than anything locally. End of the day, Pattle CHOSE to 'disobey orders' & jumped out the window of a deliberately locked room That's ultimately (along with his temporarily $hit health condition & fever), regrettably decide his fate.
As I've explained elsewhere, above, to another guy who also (understandably) asked that same question Pattle's Squadron M.O "ordered" him to be locked in a room with two beds (Malaria / High Temp's) When locked in & left alone, Pattle climbed out the locked room's upper fanlight window. So he actually disobeyed orders, ran to a spare Hurricane (not his regular) & alas, fate decided the rest
They fight to protect their brothers in combat. Its a bond that most don't understand. He was a tough hombre. Having had malaria, I can't imaging flying let alone flying combat.
thankyou for the information - I’m sure that at least 5% of the aircraft footage was accurate, but not shot in the location stated - as for the jumbo assortment of wrong aircraft, why not add a few hawker hunters and a TSR 2 ?
😂”Are you doing this for fun or do you wanna lift? They don’t make men like they used to. It just really something what the human mind and body are capable of, especially when they work in unison.
All this debate about the Hurricane what about the Gloster Gladiator the last biplane fighter to serve with the RAF and the Mk.2 was faster than the Mk.1. The Mk.2 had a three bladed propeller in latter models and was one of the best British biplane fighters in WW2 and could turn a tighter circle than a Spitfire as could the Hurricane but they both were not as fast and good not dive and climb as quick. However the Mk.2 Hurricane was armed with 4 cannons 2 in each wing and no machine guns unlike the Spit that kept it machine guns when only two cannons were added one in each winge.
All biplanes could turn tighter, but the higher speed was the more important design criterion even in the early 30's. The Hurricane IIC was slowed down by the weight of the cannon and in Malta was no faster than the Mk.IIB and was slower than the IIA. Malta was finally saved by Spitfires with the Hurricanes being mostly wiped out.
My understanding is that parts of the wing were made of wood on early models but most of the plane was metal. Hurricane was a great plane all the same ☮️
@ 0:15+ the narrator said the pilot had his head “smashed into the dashboard, but that is quite impossible, there is not a dashboard in aircraft, it is an “instrument panel” a dashboard is in a car or any other type of vehicle that is driven on the road, there a a few exceptions to that but not that many to make any difference to the basic facts. Wow, @ 3:44+ the narrator said “instrument panel” I think that is the quickest correction in the history of TH-cam, Lol 😂, but it is strange that he got it wrong first time and then miraculously right second time 🕰️, surely it would not have taken long to go back and edit it get it right from the beginning????. Now I am really confused, crashing into the desert floor burying the nose of the aircraft into the sand would have destroyed any of the delicate radio equipment, so I have to wonder what it meant by “Keying his coordinates”, unless the RAF in 1938 were using a morse code key or an iPad/iPhone lol 😝 , I don’t think he would have been able to pass his coordinates to anyone via radio, or maybe the crash was not as bad as we are being told, modern aircraft and communications equipment are very resilient but even then a crash that causes major damage is still likely to effect the equipment, and without electricity they don’t work at all, and in this case I would speculate that the only electrical power would have come from a generator driven by the engine, no engine power means no electrical power which means no radio equipment.
Once again you take no care with your selection of footage. Two clearly different bi planes are identified as Gladiators. Hurricanes are called all metal when they were mainly wood and fabric. Half the Huricanes shown are clearly Spitfires. You do the man a disservice.
The only wood on a Hurricane wwere some stringers and formers in the rear fuselage. The structure was heavy steel tubing, which made it about 900 lb heavier than the Spit with the same engine.
Excellent video. A lesser known chapter of aerial warfare. Pattle is regarded by informed sources as the highest scoring Allied ace of WW2.
Imagine how much higher his score would've been had he flown spitfires.
The story of this unsung hero is full of adventures... for sure it would be a fantastic movie.
No one would believe it
🍿i believe it would to.😟
The Hurricane was fabric covered from behind the cockpit to the tail.
That's why it could take so much damage--the bullets would pass thru the fabric covering and still fly!
Correct.
Yes, makes me wonders who wrote the narrative... "all-metal monoplane". Yeah right.
Someone who doesn’t really know their aircraft must have written the script
@@johnsanabria3279 it had the same vulnerable points as a Spitfire - engine, pilot, coolant & oil systems, fuel systems, control systems, except it had inferior performance. It did however protect pilots in crash landings (which it had to do often because of lack of performance) because of its heavy steel tube frame. It also burned well due to an unprotected header tank.
He just never quit. Strong man.
I had the dubious honour of working with the Black Watch out in Belize in the late seventies. Whatever I thought of them and their early morning bagpipes, I'm glad that they are on our side.
This was great, thanks!
One hell of a tuff and rough South African pilot! A disabled US Army Veteran 😃
South Africa punched way above their weight in both world wars.
Most RAF aces where South African.
Leader of the great escape was South African.
South Africa also provided the Allies their first victory of WW2 when we demolished the Italians in East Africa.
Outstanding considering our population was even smaller than New Zealand's
As another ( reserves ) vet I thank you for your contribution.
@@PhansiKhongoloza = One of our local stars & powerful leaders was South Afrikaans
(I'm English BTW) - His name is Adolph Gysbert 'Sailor' Malan & commanded 74 Sqdn RAF
I lived near RAF Hornchurch, his very famous Spitfire base & East London town.
He was portrayed in the famous 1969 film "The Battle of Britain" by magnificent actor Robert Shaw
The Saffers are still quite tough.
His story sounds similar to the Canadian ace George Beurling aka the "Falcon of Malta" fighting away from the main European theatre. He had incredible eyesight able to see planes other pilots in his squadron couldn't see and his deflection shooting was spectacular. He could down planes with minimal rounds of ammunition.
13:18 - Yes, the same Roald Dahl who wrote Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
A legend in his own right.
Danny the Champion of the World is one of my favourite Dahl reads.😊
@@AdmRose Don't forget "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang"
Pattle is not well known, now the theatre he fought so har in. Thank you for anyone well done piece of important aviation history.
He was a brave amazing pilot.......Thank you.....
Old F-4 Phantom pilot Shoe🇺🇸
Excellent vid!
Good story, I never knew about this bloke
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Where do you get the historic footage??
That is classified 🛑
Excellent.
" Bayonet equiped rifle in a biplane ?"
I'm sure Paddle was quite a fighter pilot but that bayonet charge at the retreating enemy sounds a bit unbelievable.
^
His name is/was/is PATTLE with two 'T's - Not "Paddle" = He's not a F'kn oar for canoes... (F.F.S)
Much in the same way that Hitler is not Spitler, not Stalin even 'starving' - Got it ?
THAT WAS NO SIDE SHOW you die then you die there is no second chance and he proved he could fly and survive , I would say he was fatigued and weak and should have been grounded.
Respect to that man.
He Pattle actually WAS 'Grounded' & 'Grounded officially' (it's a fact) by his own Sqdn Medical officer
Pattle actually disobeyed his M.O's official orders & jumped out of a window of a locked room
He ran to a spare Hurricane & grabbed a chute, despite Malaria & ridiculously high temperature
I agree with what you've said, but he knew the risks & took them, despite being ill (on that very day)
@@hawnyfox3411 it was difficult to sit idle when your mates were outclassed and overwhelmed by the enemy. They fought to protect their mates & it was a strong loyal bond that the MO underestimated.
1:18 richard attenborough?
A Matter of Life and Death, 1946, starring Sir David Niven (and Baron David Attenborough).
Pattle was eventually shot down and killed, in Greece, in April, 1941
His Hurricane couldn't outdive an Me110, sadly.
Surprised the section on the Gloucester Gladiators made no mention of the defence of Malta by Faith, Hope and Charity!
6:01 "Both of his guns", really? Gladiators were armed with four .303 machine guns.
1:21....a young Dick Attenborough in "Journey Together" (1944)
And a few seconds later, Mr. Banks.....All we need now is Mary Poppins 😊
The Fat Electrician should have got this!!!
Hurricanes weren't all metal.
The wings were wood & canvas
Late model Hurris had metal wings.
There will be plenty of errors in all of his documentaries, nevertheless they are entertaining.
You beat me to it.@@AttillatheHun-ph5eu
No wood in the wing construction. Some wooden stringers and formers on the rear fuselage, covering the steel tube structure.
The Hurricane also had a wide base undercarriage that folded into the body unlike the Spitfire and 109 12:45 that folded up into the wings. Hence the reason why the Hurricane could taxi better than the Spit on take off and landing.
Sadly, its inferior performance meant that too many young lads never RTB to enjoy that landing or taxiing.
The commentayor had me believing this pilot's name was 'Paddle'. Ah, the dying letter 't'.
Hurricane...all metal???? Ugh... i guess it wouldn't be a Dark Docs episode without a glaring inaccuracy or two.
In all warfare violence of action wins
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No one thought to send him home for two weeks? That much recovery might’ve changed his fate.
^
His own Squadron's M.O officially "ordered" him to be locked in a room with several beds & lie down
Pattle took it upon himself to climb out of that locked room via fanlight windows to make his escape
His keenness to 'not let down his mates' cost him his life - Remember, the B.E.F were in Greece
My Grandad's Brother was there too (Gordie) & was eventually evacuated via HMS Hotspur to Crete (!)
Latter eventually would've been captured @ Sphakia, but his squad decided to drive their truck along the Southern Cretan coast, to a bay where just one lone Royal Navy launch was waiting for TWO top-brass Army officers
Told they had 'No chance' of being evacuated, the Naval Lt. said... "Come back @ 17:15" adding...
"If they've not turned up by then, we'll smuggle you & your squad aboard"
Brass didn't show & so Gordie's squad went aboard the smallish launch, only to find as they went out into the bay & drew closer, Gordie swore & said "F**k me, LOOK, it's HMS Hotspur again !!!!"
Fate was kind to him & after Alexandria, he got outfitted into the new 8th Army & served in Libya, Tunis & finally on the drive thru Siciliy & finished up in Italy fighting towards 'The Gustav line'
It's been said that the 'Ill feted Greek campaign' WAS Churchill's [quote] "Ill advised folly"
Churchill meant well, but the logistics side of keeping our troops & RAF supplied "At the Ar$e End of the Mediterranean Sea" was never gonna end well, esp' at THAT early stage of the war
That's as to WHY Pattle & other wounded & sick were not evacuated more than anything locally.
End of the day, Pattle CHOSE to 'disobey orders' & jumped out the window of a deliberately locked room
That's ultimately (along with his temporarily $hit health condition & fever), regrettably decide his fate.
Near ten minutes, in typical dark fashion, the canvas hurricane is an all metal monoplane 😂
There's always some glaring error. I swear, after years of watching him, it's just his theme now. 🤣
They did get metal wings but i thing the aft fuselage remained linen covered.
Just how much footage do you think there is? Give you head a shake.
Pretty close, the airframe did contain a lot of steel tubing...🤣
@guidor.4161 tube frame with fabric covering.
Why was he allowed to fly when he was obviously ill and not in shape to operate a plane, especially in a combat situation.?
As I've explained elsewhere, above, to another guy who also (understandably) asked that same question
Pattle's Squadron M.O "ordered" him to be locked in a room with two beds (Malaria / High Temp's)
When locked in & left alone, Pattle climbed out the locked room's upper fanlight window.
So he actually disobeyed orders, ran to a spare Hurricane (not his regular) & alas, fate decided the rest
They fight to protect their brothers in combat. Its a bond that most don't understand. He was a tough hombre. Having had malaria, I can't imaging flying let alone flying combat.
...Hurricanes were NOT all-metal...
thankyou for the information - I’m sure that at least 5% of the aircraft footage was accurate, but not shot in the location stated - as for the jumbo assortment of wrong aircraft, why not add a few hawker hunters and a TSR 2 ?
Why say something in a sentence when a whole chapter will cover it!
Great video. keep em up.
Todays seven words, because you are awesome 😁😁😁
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Usuthu?
What?? "Allies' Wildebeest"??? WTF is that???
0:32 I don't think that word means what you think it means. Seems to me that outside of the island they live on the British were the insurgents.
😂”Are you doing this for fun or do you wanna lift? They don’t make men like they used to. It just really something what the human mind and body are capable of, especially when they work in unison.
Named by the Romans so jew would forget they had home land
??
I Agree with Patrick
Wow!
All this debate about the Hurricane what about the Gloster Gladiator the last biplane fighter to serve with the RAF and the Mk.2 was faster than the Mk.1. The Mk.2 had a three bladed propeller in latter models and was one of the best British biplane fighters in WW2 and could turn a tighter circle than a Spitfire as could the Hurricane but they both were not as fast and good not dive and climb as quick. However the Mk.2 Hurricane was armed with 4 cannons 2 in each wing and no machine guns unlike the Spit that kept it machine guns when only two cannons were added one in each winge.
All biplanes could turn tighter, but the higher speed was the more important design criterion even in the early 30's. The Hurricane IIC was slowed down by the weight of the cannon and in Malta was no faster than the Mk.IIB and was slower than the IIA. Malta was finally saved by Spitfires with the Hurricanes being mostly wiped out.
I don't think I have ever been this early in the comments
Congratulations you have earned yourself a worm.🪱
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Did you mean to say German Pilots? No need to display your bias.
The name 'St. John' is pronounced 'Sin gin',
Birds could be Nazis too?
Why call people who are protecting their home from foreigners insurgents?
The Hurricanes were made of wood not metal
That was the misquote
My understanding is that parts of the wing were made of wood on early models but most of the plane was metal. Hurricane was a great plane all the same ☮️
Canvas covered tent material. @@daviswall3319
@ yes you are correct
@@paulgeorge7557yes the mozzy was made of wood but the Hurricane was made of wood too. The spitfire was metal
@ 0:15+ the narrator said the pilot had his head “smashed into the dashboard, but that is quite impossible, there is not a dashboard in aircraft, it is an “instrument panel” a dashboard is in a car or any other type of vehicle that is driven on the road, there a a few exceptions to that but not that many to make any difference to the basic facts.
Wow, @ 3:44+ the narrator said “instrument panel” I think that is the quickest correction in the history of TH-cam, Lol 😂, but it is strange that he got it wrong first time and then miraculously right second time 🕰️, surely it would not have taken long to go back and edit it get it right from the beginning????.
Now I am really confused, crashing into the desert floor burying the nose of the aircraft into the sand would have destroyed any of the delicate radio equipment, so I have to wonder what it meant by “Keying his coordinates”, unless the RAF in 1938 were using a morse code key or an iPad/iPhone lol 😝 , I don’t think he would have been able to pass his coordinates to anyone via radio, or maybe the crash was not as bad as we are being told, modern aircraft and communications equipment are very resilient but even then a crash that causes major damage is still likely to effect the equipment, and without electricity they don’t work at all, and in this case I would speculate that the only electrical power would have come from a generator driven by the engine, no engine power means no electrical power which means no radio equipment.
Hunting defenceless animals makes him a coward
in 1920 that was where meat came from. If you didn't hunt your family died! Wake up and get an education.
Maybe those Arabs wouldn’t be against the Allies if the Entente hadn’t betrayed them after WWI!
Once again you take no care with your selection of footage. Two clearly different bi planes are identified as Gladiators. Hurricanes are called all metal when they were mainly wood and fabric. Half the Huricanes shown are clearly Spitfires. You do the man a disservice.
The only wood on a Hurricane wwere some stringers and formers in the rear fuselage. The structure was heavy steel tubing, which made it about 900 lb heavier than the Spit with the same engine.
Don't you mean Jerusalem in Palestine as it was back then? Got to get history correct as the country was called Palestine.
Palestine was a British construct and never a country.
These days our college grads can't tell you what country Oregan is in!! 😂
@@davidkarick3543Or spell Oregon? 😊
@@davidkarick3543Oregan?