Jason. As always, thank you for this timely and educational video. You are truly an inspiration to anyone interested in Horticulture. I review many of you videos over and over again. I appreciate all of your suggestions, advice and gadgets. Thanks so much! Warren
Ha, this is great - I'm at the level of carrrying around the 3 gallon watering containters - very bad for my wrists. I was just wondering whether I could put the fish emulsion in the miracle grow feeder - apparently I can! Thats enough of an improvement for me for now - THANKS JASON!!!!!!!
Thanks Jason, going to use your reccomendation for a shorter hose. My green house is about 100 feet from the bib. I am having trouble getting my syphon to perform consistently. I may move the connection further away from the bib....to be continued
I use the NewTry brand injector (an Amazon startup company). Don't notice any meaningful pressure drop. For pre-mixed liquid fertilizers can simply select the concentration needed by adjusting a valve, drop the siphon into the fertilizer and start watering. For water-soluble fertilizers, need to do the necessary calcs to apply correct pre-mix concentration.
Interesting... I was just thinking about how to incorporate fertilizer into my automated watering system, and had wondered if there was a way to do something like the dispenser at the start of the video. Hmm.
Nice detailed presentation Jason, as usual. I've been using a brass HOZON injector at home for about 40 years, 1:16 dilution, it requires 35PSI minimum water pressure. Does the DRAMM have a minimum PSI requirement? We used a huge adjustable GEWA at work, we always strained the concentrate through cheesecloth or muslin just to be on the safe side.
Thanks Rich. Yes, 35psi is the minimum for the Dramm siphon as well. They also recommend an output hose no longer than around 50ft because of that pressure drop I talked about.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks for the reply, I always take my concentrate bucket to where it's needed. Too long a hose is like too long an extension cord...increased resistance/decreased pressure.
You made this video starting a new system. To consider making the video for a while or perhaps you could give us an update if this is an out your standard fertilization set up and if you’ve had any issues with the system. A significant number of people who purchased the same siphon on Amazon. We’re not happy with how are the products performed. My primary purpose for using this is to acidophile city water to a pH just below seven. My tapwater is chlorinated to a pH of around nine. The pH of my soil is still healthy, but I think my plants are going to absorb nutrients better if watered with neutral water and unfortunately, I don’t have access to and chlorinated water for irrigation Best, Mats H
Well I've tried a few things, but no siphon is entirely trouble-free. The brass siphons tend to back-flow on me pretty severely. This plastic siphon is reasonable. It has a little plastic backflow preventer in the supply tube that it liable to break apart over time or with handling, but I've applied some superglue to the outer edge which helps to keep it together. The siphon also really does work better with a 50ft hose max and the smaller diameter breaker provided in the kit (it needs the back pressure to engage the siphon). I get pretty consistent result when used under those conditions.
Hi Jason. I’m new to gardening this year and I planted 5 hybrid tea roses in the yard in early May. They are doing really well! But we just found out we have to move suddenly to a new home about fifteen minutes away in about a month. Will I be able to take these young roses with me? From what I read online, it sounds possible but I would need to keep as much soil as possible around the root ball and wrap in burlap to protect the roots during the journey. What do you suggest?
Yes, it's doable. When you get to the new place, (depending on how hot it is) you might consider potting the roses for a bit and keeping them in a semi-shaded location to reduce stress. Or, if you put them straight in the ground just be sure to stay on top of watering.
Love the idea for sure! But I’m still confused about the mixing ratios. For instance if I wanted to use liquid kelp or fish emulsion, would t it be to watered down? First in the bucket and then by the added water from the hose? So who knows what the correct ratio should be? Less is always better than more for fertilizers but I more than likely won’t use 100 gallons of water when doing my veg garden. I do like the gadget!
Hi Denise. The correct ratio in the "stock solution" bucket (whichever size bucket you use) is 20x the rate you want as your final rate. For the sake of simplicity, let's say you mixed in a 1 gallon milk jug instead. If your fertilizer instructions said "1 tsp" per gallon, you would multiply that by 20 = 20tsp (I can't help but jump over to metric for ease of calculations, but that's 5ml x 20 = 100ml) in one gallon of stock.
Is my math right..? Would I add 6 cups of 20-20-20- dry fertilizer in the 5 gallon bucket, then add water if I wanted to fertilize on the "normal" side? I am just starting to grow some mums. Thank you for such a great video!!!
Hello, thanks for the video. Just wondering if you have a problem with water flowing back into the mixing bucket when you shut off your valve at the watering end of the hose.
Yes. There's a little plastic check valve on the clear supply tube to the siphon. On 2 of the 3 siphons I've installed, this check valve popped apart, losing the little spring that stops it from backflowing. The third one I dabbed with superglue so that it's held together and is still working fine. It seems like a design weakness to me. In any case, I now need to shut off the supply water if I'm going to pause watering for any significant time, otherwise the stock tank will fill up with water and become diluted (or even overflow, wasting the nutrients).
Hi Pat. I backing off rose fertilization here in the lower mainland for September - just letting them coast on what's already in the soil as we get into cooler temps. The risk is too much lush growth that won't harden off before winter. I see that dahlia growers also usually stop in August.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you very much. So many buds, I think it has been a confusing growing season for the plants, I mean for a while I think they thought they had awakened in Florida 😉😉😉
Question: Does it help to fertilize small (thin stems) rose plants Miracle Grow for roses? That's what I have on hand for the adult roses. Make it a weak dilute?
Not so much. Because of all the drippers, they usually work on a pretty low pressure. This system requires a decent amount of "back pressure" (whatever that is) to make the syphon work properly.
Hello, I have 100 square metres of green house. It says to mix 50ml to 5l of water per week to fertilize. Obviously I can't water that area with only 5L of water . Should I irrigate the plants first until the soil is wet, then apply the solution through drip with this system? I dont want to over dilute it.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm However, 5l of solution im not sure it will go to every plant. Should water more at the end to ensure all the substance is out of the drip lines?
I could be wrong, but I think the listing said these siphons can work reliably down to around 35psi supply. Drip irrigation can be a problem because if you're trying to feed to many emitters, the back pressure on the valve will be too low to pull the fertilizer. It might work okay with a short length and a small number of emitters
I kind of doubt it. The siphon requires a certain amount of pressure to work properly. Drip systems tend to drop to low pressure once you have a large number of drippers.
Thanks Dennis. In the video I think I said you shouldn't use "too long" of a hose - but I wasn't very specific. Since then I looked at the suppliers info, and they say around 50ft.
Do you sell rose seeds, from hips at a cheap price? I don't use slow release, starts with a 'G". I just use miracle grow rose food. with discretion. Can I buy rose hips off you for a good price? On my bucket list is fill world with roses! I don't care if they are from China like with the Rugosa rose. My belief is roses make people happy. I want happy people.
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Thank you Jason for the demonstration and reminding me that it's time to fertilize my plants as well :)
Jason. As always, thank you for this timely and educational video. You are truly an inspiration to anyone interested in Horticulture.
I review many of you videos over and over again. I appreciate all of your suggestions, advice and gadgets.
Thanks so much! Warren
Thanks Warren
@FraserValleyRoseFarm how has it worked for you since you started using it?
I really appreciate your ingenuity and the cost effective approaches you show us, fantastic, thank you!
This is exactly what I was looking for to attach to my sprinkler thank you. You gave earned a new subscriber just with this video
Funny. I was just thinking about this while installing a new drip line followed by fertilizing my containers. I wasn't sure if it was a thing.
Does it work well with drip system?
What a timely video, I have been looking for an easier way to fertilize.
Thanks for the succinct easy-to-follow video, Jason.
Ha, this is great - I'm at the level of carrrying around the 3 gallon watering containters - very bad for my wrists. I was just wondering whether I could put the fish emulsion in the miracle grow feeder - apparently I can! Thats enough of an improvement for me for now - THANKS JASON!!!!!!!
Thank you.. I love this idea. I will probably use a splitter on my hose and just turn on that side to fertilize and off for just watering...
Thanks Jason, going to use your reccomendation for a shorter hose. My green house is about 100 feet from the bib. I am having trouble getting my syphon to perform consistently. I may move the connection further away from the bib....to be continued
Good information. Thanks for demonstrating the whole process. Very helpful.
Very informative. I have too many flowers to fertilize by watering can. This is a great alternative!! Thank you!
Very cool option, I’ve only seen huge types that look super complicated.
I use the NewTry brand injector (an Amazon startup company). Don't notice any meaningful pressure drop. For pre-mixed liquid fertilizers can simply select the concentration needed by adjusting a valve, drop the siphon into the fertilizer and start watering. For water-soluble fertilizers, need to do the necessary calcs to apply correct pre-mix concentration.
Thanks for the update! I was looking for a way to fertilize.... I will check this out.
Kia Ora from NZ - Brilliant Jason 👏 you are such a great source of information loved the video 👍
Thanks so much - and I envy your rose-growing climate!
Interesting... I was just thinking about how to incorporate fertilizer into my automated watering system, and had wondered if there was a way to do something like the dispenser at the start of the video. Hmm.
Nice detailed presentation Jason, as usual. I've been using a brass HOZON injector at home for about 40 years, 1:16 dilution, it requires 35PSI minimum water pressure. Does the DRAMM have a minimum PSI requirement? We used a huge adjustable GEWA at work, we always strained the concentrate through cheesecloth or muslin just to be on the safe side.
Thanks Rich. Yes, 35psi is the minimum for the Dramm siphon as well. They also recommend an output hose no longer than around 50ft because of that pressure drop I talked about.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thanks for the reply, I always take my concentrate bucket to where it's needed. Too long a hose is like too long an extension cord...increased resistance/decreased pressure.
As always, very thoughtful and educational content. Such an easy to follow presentation. Thank you, Jason. One question, do I need a back-flow valve?
No, I don't think so.
Thanks for showing it. Brilliant!
Awesome..love that..thank you blessings
You made this video starting a new system. To consider making the video for a while or perhaps you could give us an update if this is an out your standard fertilization set up and if you’ve had any issues with the system.
A significant number of people who purchased the same siphon on Amazon. We’re not happy with how are the products performed.
My primary purpose for using this is to acidophile city water to a pH just below seven. My tapwater is chlorinated to a pH of around nine.
The pH of my soil is still healthy, but I think my plants are going to absorb nutrients better if watered with neutral water and unfortunately, I don’t have access to and chlorinated water for irrigation
Best,
Mats H
Well I've tried a few things, but no siphon is entirely trouble-free. The brass siphons tend to back-flow on me pretty severely. This plastic siphon is reasonable. It has a little plastic backflow preventer in the supply tube that it liable to break apart over time or with handling, but I've applied some superglue to the outer edge which helps to keep it together. The siphon also really does work better with a 50ft hose max and the smaller diameter breaker provided in the kit (it needs the back pressure to engage the siphon). I get pretty consistent result when used under those conditions.
Hi Jason. I’m new to gardening this year and I planted 5 hybrid tea roses in the yard in early May. They are doing really well! But we just found out we have to move suddenly to a new home about fifteen minutes away in about a month. Will I be able to take these young roses with me? From what I read online, it sounds possible but I would need to keep as much soil as possible around the root ball and wrap in burlap to protect the roots during the journey. What do you suggest?
Yes, it's doable. When you get to the new place, (depending on how hot it is) you might consider potting the roses for a bit and keeping them in a semi-shaded location to reduce stress. Or, if you put them straight in the ground just be sure to stay on top of watering.
Love the idea for sure! But I’m still confused about the mixing ratios. For instance if I wanted to use liquid kelp or fish emulsion, would t it be to watered down? First in the bucket and then by the added water from the hose? So who knows what the correct ratio should be? Less is always better than more for fertilizers but I more than likely won’t use 100 gallons of water when doing my veg garden. I do like the gadget!
Hi Denise. The correct ratio in the "stock solution" bucket (whichever size bucket you use) is 20x the rate you want as your final rate. For the sake of simplicity, let's say you mixed in a 1 gallon milk jug instead. If your fertilizer instructions said "1 tsp" per gallon, you would multiply that by 20 = 20tsp (I can't help but jump over to metric for ease of calculations, but that's 5ml x 20 = 100ml) in one gallon of stock.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm thank you! That made it easier in my brain! I speak metric! 😂 I’m in northern AB!
Is my math right..? Would I add 6 cups of 20-20-20- dry fertilizer in the 5 gallon bucket, then add water if I wanted to fertilize on the "normal" side? I am just starting to grow some mums. Thank you for such a great video!!!
Sorry for the late reply - seems a bit on the high side to me. I'm using less than 2 cups total on roses, which are relatively heavy feeders
Hello, thanks for the video. Just wondering if you have a problem with water flowing back into the mixing bucket when you shut off your valve at the watering end of the hose.
Yes. There's a little plastic check valve on the clear supply tube to the siphon. On 2 of the 3 siphons I've installed, this check valve popped apart, losing the little spring that stops it from backflowing. The third one I dabbed with superglue so that it's held together and is still working fine. It seems like a design weakness to me. In any case, I now need to shut off the supply water if I'm going to pause watering for any significant time, otherwise the stock tank will fill up with water and become diluted (or even overflow, wasting the nutrients).
Would this setup work for fixed drip lines? Minus the hose nozzle of course.
Not so far as I can tell: drip systems work at slower pressures, and this syphon requires a fair bit of back pressure to work.
How long of a hose is too long? I normally run 100' lengths. Thank you.
AT my water source water pressure (around 40-50psi) 100ft is working fine.
Great info! 👍
Since it is now September in the LMD and the rose bushes and dahlias all have buds, can they be given a bloom feeding fertilizer?
Hi Pat. I backing off rose fertilization here in the lower mainland for September - just letting them coast on what's already in the soil as we get into cooler temps. The risk is too much lush growth that won't harden off before winter. I see that dahlia growers also usually stop in August.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Thank you very much. So many buds, I think it has been a confusing growing season for the plants, I mean for a while I think they thought they had awakened in Florida 😉😉😉
Question: Does it help to fertilize small (thin stems) rose plants Miracle Grow for roses? That's what I have on hand for the adult roses. Make it a weak dilute?
Thanks Brian. Yes, smaller/younger plants can usually take a 1/2 strength solution if they don't have fertilizer in the soil already.
Aren't you concerned about fertilizer contamination into the well, which is why in AG systems you need to use a backflow preventer by law.
My pumphouse already has backflow control.
Jason, would this work on a drip irrigation system?
Not so much. Because of all the drippers, they usually work on a pretty low pressure. This system requires a decent amount of "back pressure" (whatever that is) to make the syphon work properly.
Hello, I have 100 square metres of green house. It says to mix 50ml to 5l of water per week to fertilize. Obviously I can't water that area with only 5L of water . Should I irrigate the plants first until the soil is wet, then apply the solution through drip with this system? I dont want to over dilute it.
Yes - never a problem to start with a wet soil in the pot.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm However, 5l of solution im not sure it will go to every plant. Should water more at the end to ensure all the substance is out of the drip lines?
Hi. Hats the best way to fight insects infestation in roses. I love mine but thy keep getting sick.
Different pests will call for different solutions. You can click through to my channel's library of videos, and I've covered most of the major pests.
Thank you.
This would not work on a drip irrigation?
No, apparently it has something to do with back pressure for the venturi valve to work
Johnnie seeds sells a brass one 16:1 req 35psi
Is there something like this for drip irrigation with the lower pressure?
I could be wrong, but I think the listing said these siphons can work reliably down to around 35psi supply. Drip irrigation can be a problem because if you're trying to feed to many emitters, the back pressure on the valve will be too low to pull the fertilizer. It might work okay with a short length and a small number of emitters
Could this be used in a drip irrigation system?
If it maintains sufficient pressure with your number of drippers.
Can I attach this to my auto sprayer?
Depends on the pressure you need - the injector does drop pressure by a bit, so just make sure you're getting the flow you need.
Can you use this with drip irragation
I kind of doubt it. The siphon requires a certain amount of pressure to work properly. Drip systems tend to drop to low pressure once you have a large number of drippers.
Thanks Jason, didn't know that was out there but I'm going with that set up for sure.
Thanks Dennis. In the video I think I said you shouldn't use "too long" of a hose - but I wasn't very specific. Since then I looked at the suppliers info, and they say around 50ft.
Hello sir please send me purchase link for Amazon
Thanks. It's on this list: www.amazon.com/shop/fraservalleyrosefarm?listId=C9CR2E7X5JZ
It’s a Mazzei injector.
Do you sell rose seeds, from hips at a cheap price? I don't use slow release, starts with a 'G". I just use miracle grow rose food.
with discretion. Can I buy rose hips off you for a good price? On my bucket list is fill world with roses! I don't care if they are from China like with the Rugosa rose. My belief is roses make people happy. I want happy people.
Thanks Brian. Sorry, we don't sell rose seeds.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Do it yourself; I get it.
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