Why This Supersonic Plane Will Never Work - Concorde
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The Concorde was going to change the way we fly.
But the Concorde actually had far more orders beyond the two carriers British Airways and Air France.
Who were these other airlines, where would they have flown the plane and why did these deliveries never happen?
On a brisk winter morning in 1972, the Concorde and the future had arrived down under. Officials at Qantas lined up, to place at this point a no brainer order.
So far the plane had been ordered by both British Airways and Air France, whose parent countries had spent billions developing the Concorde. But no other airline had managed yet to receive the aircraft. Both airlines had 7 aircraft each.
The first option agreement after these two airlines was Pan Am, who optioned six aircraft in 1963, and then optioned another two in 1966. Pan Am would have used these like Air France and BA to cross to Europe over the ocean.
Contential followed with an option for three, as well as TWA who optioned six. American Airlines also had options, for six aircraft but seemingly only after Rival Pan Am made the first move.
Near the end of the first year, middle eastern carrier MEA optioned four aircraft from France. They would operate the plane from Beruit to New York, landing in Toulouse - and a two hour trip to London.
In 1964, Qantas would option four aircraft. they would have used the plane for flights over the outback to Singapore.
Air India with two options
Japan Airlines with three.
Eastern airlines with 8 options,
United with 6
Braniff with 3
Lufthansa with 3
Sabena with 2
Air Canada with 4
There was also an option for three aircraft from the Chinese government.
FedEx with a fleet of ten aircraft.
The last airline that had options for the Concorde was Iran Air.
It seemed that the Concorde dream was in full swing, with 44 options across 10 airlines, short of the 150 needed for the program to break even, but a good start.
In 1973, rising oil prices led to the Concorde becoming increasingly unprofitable, and the sonic boom became a political football. The plane was also growing too expensive, its price going $20 million US to $60 million US, $349 million today.
This led launch customer Pan Am to cancel. The carrier wasn't doing well at the time, and it wasn't able to secure finance to go forward with the orders if it wanted to.
American Airlines, Continental, United Airlines and Air Canada TWA, and Braniff would follow suit.
Sir George Edwards, chairman of British Aircraft Corp, which along with France’s Aerospatiale was building the Concorde: “We should not describe this as a fatal blow, but it’s a hell of a setback.”
Japan not ordering it, China canceled.
Boeing and others like Russia were working on their own version of the Concorde, the Boeing 2707, dubbed the second-generation supersonic jet, that would deal with the issues with a sonic boom and also have much better performance.
The Qantas order for four supersonic jets is still on the books. Although we all know that will never happen. Qantas would go on to instead buy 747s for its pacific aspirations.
The Concorde would go on to serve a unique slice of the market through carrier British Airways and Air France. It would be rented by the carriers above for special routes now and again, like Singapore who would even paint half of the plane operating it across Asia. , as well as Pepsi - yes the soft drink, who would use the plane as a promotional billboard.
In 2003, Richard Branson tried to acquire the Concorde jets from British Airways following the crash of Air France 4590 and the downturn of the aviation industry following 9/11.
He claimed that a special requirement in British Airways’ privatization agreement back in the 80s said that “if BA no longer wanted Concorde, then another British airline should be allowed to operate the supersonic fleet.”
When BA dismissed the offer, he offered million pounds and five million pounds per aircraft. The planes would have remained on the New York to London route for Virgin Atlantic.
If Pan Am had kept its order and been financially solvent, then North America would have been a key investor in the Concordes' success. Other carriers in North America would have at least followed on and the Boeing 2707 would have been built.
If Iran Air had kept its order, we could have seen the rest of Asia follow suit, like Qantas.
With smaller and faster jets, the Boeing 747 would have been regulated to cargo operations and likely the A380 would never have been built.
Today's video skipped over India and Malaysia banning the pane, as well as a high-profile crash of the Russian Tu-144.
But thanks so much for making it this far, and learning that the Concorde really was about to become a huge success - if only for a few very interesting twists of history.
Can you spot the hidden mistake in this video! I sure did, but I'll keep the video up all the same! enjoy and thanks for putting up with my slightly sloppy editng!
Media offline.
The media offline still frame after the Chinese Concorde
Prices of concorde are first told to be 260M and later 46M while comparing to 747
9:38 "With France's equivalent..." ?
You mean Sud-aviation / Aérospatiale which became EADS the mother company of Airbus.
No matter Concorde's commercial failure, she turned out to be the success of what is Airbus today.
Concorde is a technological wonder and was the first commercial aircraft to feature full electrical fly-by-wire commands, the first thrust-by-wire engines (ancestor of FADEC), low tire pressure active monitoring...
Concorde featured so many innovations: full hands off auto-throttle and dual autopilot from climb to landing, ILS full autoland system (CAT 3A), dual weather radar screens, electrically controlled hydraulic light ABS breaking system with ventilated carbon discs (3 breaking laws), composite flight control surfaces (ailerons/elevons, rudder), INS navigation system, IDG/GCU managed hydraulics and electrics, triple hydraulic system, on-the-fly center of gravity (CG) adjustment with fuel displacement, AU2GN/RR58 alloy light fuselage and wing, Teflon coated surfaces, electronically controlled shape shifting engine air intakes and exhaust, artificial feel pilot's commands...
Also, Snecma began building (with Rolls-Royce) aircraft engines for Concorde's Olympus 593 and later joined forces with General Electric to form CFM International and create the CFM56 that equipped the Boeing 737 classic and NG, Airbus A320 family, A340-200/300, DC-8-70, and Boeing C-135 & E-3 (under the name F108, CFM56 military version).
The offsprings of Concorde's innovations are today's aviation standards and stemmed Airbus backbone.
At 2:42, you say 8 hours instead of 14 but the infographic shows 8 hours instead of 16 😉
Concorde’s top speed is actually limited by temperature, not power. At Mach 2.0, the friction from moving through the air heats the aluminum skin almost to the point at which it begins to soften.
That is realy fast😅😅
Amazing!
How fast it has flown?
2,179 km (1,354 miles) per hour
As fast as fighter jet
The sonic boom wasn’t really a huge issue. I used to live in Dorset in the UK. We used to hear it twice a day, the British Concorde heading out down the Bristol Channel to the North, and the French one heading down the English Channel to the South. The sonic boom was literally no more than a rapid triple rumble of distant thunder.Concorde wasn’t a failure as an aircraft, it was a huge success technologically, it was the first supersonic aircraft with the ability to super cruise, I.E. the ability to cruise at twice the speed of sound without using afterburners, this years before the likes of the F-22 could finally do the same. Commercially, both the Air France and British airways aircraft were nearly always overbooked,and flying Concorde was always very popular. People who flew in them always spoke very highly of the smoothness and comfort of the aircraft. It should also be remembered that US politicians and indeed Boeing, set about a massive campaign of disinformation to turn the flying public against Concorde, presumably to shutdown a rival aircraft builder, and to push their own SST project and the 747 Jumbo project. Had some of the other American airlines taken up their options for the trans Atlantic and other oversea routes the Concorde would have been a much more successful aircraft commercially. Even today, there are a number of companies who are trying to bring scaled down Concorde projects to market, it will be interesting to see how much bad publicity will be aimed at them.
Plus every fighter plane of now a days have sonic boom snd if it was that bad then ground every single one of those planes
Haha you would of heard it 4 times a day bc it had two sonic booms salt I never got to see Concorde bc I am too young :( but I enjoyed reading this though
*_@stallagiardino7877_*
Far from sabotaging Concorde, the Americans helped. By special concession, for no benefit to themselves, they did allow Britain and France's noisy SST to overfly their country subsonically and use their airports, despite a public outcry. FAA data shows 120dB on take off, compared to 104dB for a Boeing 707, which itself was the subject of previous noise protests.
American airline companies also supported Concorde by taking out 38 options to buy. In addition, the American SST Program and NASA provided technical assistance. When Concorde started flying, 50% of the passengers were American. From 1977 to 2003, Concorde's main scheduled flights were between London or Paris and New York or Dulles.
America's SST Program shared data on the ogival wing with the European designers. NASA assisted by modifying a Douglas F5D Skylancer to mimic the ogival wing and, in 1965, the NASA test aircraft successfully flew the wing. On top of that, many technical reports, standards, and procedures are American or American based. The same goes for material, sub assemblies, instrumentation, electronics, production equipment, and test equipment.
Americans think that Concorde is a phenomenal aircraft and, far from being jealous, admire it. Why would they be, jealous when you think of all their aviation achievements? In any case, Concorde was no threat to their dominance in passenger air transport.
America certainly could have made a Mach 2 airliner, had they wished. In fact, they started studying SST in 1950, and had been working on the much bigger and more advanced Boeing 2707 Mach 3 SST since 1967. They already had the Mach 2 B58, and Mach 3 Valkyrie bombers flying, along with about 15 supersonic reconnaissance and fighter aircraft, and they were experts in jet technology.
For all of its technical excellence, Concorde was hampered by sonic boom, subsonic noise, limited passenger capacity, and limited range. Concorde was also thirsty, especially at slower speeds. The cabin was 'cosy' and noisy and baggage capacity was extremely limited. Maintenance was costly and availability was poor. Concorde was also difficult to fly, requiring specially selected pilots to attend a six-month intensive conversion course. The development program overran, and the costs, which were all borne by the UK and French tax payers, were astronomical. There was also an on going history of undercarriage problems, and tyre blow outs, leading to punctured fuel tanks, causing a near crash and a fatal crash.
But sonic boom was the showstopper. Amazingly, the SST study groups of the 1950s just assumed that sonic boom wouldn't be a problem at 60,000 feet so, in 1962, the Concorde development program went ahead, seemingly oblivious. This was one of the biggest blunders in aviation history.
Many objections to SST are fanciful, not so for sonic boom. In 1964, when USAF aircraft flew supersonic near Oklahoma City, 9,600 people complained. There were similar outcries in 1967, when RAF aircraft made supersonic flights over Somerset. Finally, in the face of public outcry, the FAA banned commercial supersonic flights in 1973, and other countries soon followed, including the UK and France. This ban made most of Concorde's planned routes nonviable.
The Labour Party of 1964 tried to pull out of Concorde, but were tied by a condition of the agreement, which ironically the UK had insisted on. With costs escalating and the program overrunning, the Conservative Party of 1970 also wanted to leave, but were prevented by politics. Likewise, British Airways and Air France didn't want to fly Concorde, but were forced by their respective governments to accept 7 aircraft each.
Although the Boeing 2707 SST had technical issues, two prototype 2707-300s were being built and the program was back on track, when it was cancelled by senate in 1971, because the concept of SST was thrown into doubt. There was also strong pressure from the environmental lobby, who were the most vocal. It turns out that the cancellation, which was very unpopular at the time as it caused 6,500 layoffs, was fortuitous in the long run, because it saved the US a mint, and eliminated a potential Concorde competitor.
Sadly, Concorde's last commercial flight was the return trip from JFK to Heathrow on 24 October 2003. In 2004 Concorde was retired because Airbus Industries declined to supply spare parts, and neither British Airways, or Air France wanted to fly it any more.
9:38 "With France's equivalent..." ?
You mean Sud-aviation / Aérospatiale which became EADS the mother company of Airbus.
No matter Concorde's commercial failure, she turned out to be the success of what is Airbus today.
Concorde is a technological wonder and was the first commercial aircraft to feature full electrical fly-by-wire commands, the first thrust-by-wire engines (ancestor of FADEC), low tire pressure active monitoring...
Concorde featured so many innovations: full hands off auto-throttle and dual autopilot from climb to landing, ILS full autoland system (CAT 3A), dual weather radar screens, electrically controlled hydraulic light ABS breaking system with ventilated carbon discs (3 breaking laws), composite flight control surfaces (ailerons/elevons, rudder), INS navigation system, IDG/GCU managed hydraulics and electrics, triple hydraulic system, on-the-fly center of gravity (CG) adjustment with fuel displacement, AU2GN/RR58 alloy light fuselage and wing, Teflon coated surfaces, electronically controlled shape shifting engine air intakes and exhaust, artificial feel pilot's commands...
Also, Snecma began building (with Rolls-Royce) aircraft engines for Concorde's Olympus 593 and later joined forces with General Electric to form CFM International and create the CFM56 that equipped the Boeing 737 classic and NG, Airbus A320 family, A340-200/300, DC-8-70, and Boeing C-135 & E-3 (under the name F108, CFM56 military version).
The offsprings of Concorde's innovations are today's aviation standards and stemmed Airbus backbone.
You're right. Its important to not regard this a failure. Airbus is now the gold standard of the aerospace sector long replacing that less trustworthy Boeing
Hahaha, I live in Australia 2KM away from Sydney Airport. If Qantas order the Concorde now, I guess I will shift my house or else I will never sleep.
It would have gone quiet over the houses for sure!
@@FoundAndExplained :D
@@keeran2101 On s'en branle marcel de tes insomnies! Et puis en plus, je causepas aux kangourous!
@@hectorberlioz2634 Haha, Ok no worries it's fine, I just shared :).
@@FoundAndExplained rubbish, you didn’t find anything and you explained by making stuff up....... did you do ANY research???? Ever Bering nearby when a Concorde took off....... it can’t “go quiet”. Why do you think New York mandated it take off and turn immediately because of the extreme noise....
Here’s a tip pal, I have 40 years in aviation, you can’t just throw a baseball cap on and bullshit when you don’t know any facts. Go amd make videos about stuff you know about, otherwise you’re just generating uninformed misinformation.
Concorde is not the most hated aircraft ever. Its most likely the most loved aircraft and the plane every aviation enthousiast likes or loves. Its to me the most beautiful object and plane ever made !
Given the fuel consumption, the Concorde was a bad idea from the very beginning. If I lived near an airport where it flew from I would have hated it...
@@davidhollenshead4892 and as a pilot i would have loved to hear those amazing RR snecma olympus 589-602 engines wake me up in the morning. Also, Concorde was built in the 60s when fuel efficiency wasn’t a huge concern just like for cars. Just before the crash they actually started to develop new engines that were to be more fuel efficient and more powerful to have less need for afterburners. Concorde could already make a full flight without afterburners take off included.
@@davidhollenshead4892 it was only fuel inefficient if it flew at Subsonic speed. At supersonic speed it was actually pretty efficient, especially when flaying at Mach 2. At the time it was developed, SST was seen as the future and fuel was widely available and prices were fairly low. It was not until the oil embargo following the Yom Kippur War when prices skyrocketed and thus made SST unviable. It wasn't a bad idea from the start.
Also the whole too noisy over houses is a bit of a misconception. It was noiser than average, but it wasn't that much noiser. Certainly it did not trigger noise levels anywhere near unacceptable levels when Concorde did the noise meter tests in JKF or LHR
Concord is still the most beautiful bird that ever flew the skies.
Nah. 747. Concorde just looks like paper airplane.
@@jimreuss NEVERRRRR!!!!!!
@@jimreuss If the 747 is the Queen of the Skies, why is the Concorde the one moving all the way across the board in one turn?
@@AubriGryphon I'll give you that the concorde was faster but what looked better?
@@AubriGryphon and what's still in the skies?
Beautiful plane. Was so lucky to live in Queens and hear and see when these babies land and take off. FYI, at home you would know when this baby was departing. Loved it.
Concorde has ever since changed our lives, and now its old but gold!
Lucas...
Didn't change my life!
"Pan Am cancelled their Concordes? Guess we'll be a good friend and cancel ours too."
Thanks for the video! Concorde remains amazing & I was even lucky enough to fly on her before she retired. It was a dream come true.
Concorde didn't need its afterburners on in cruise mode.
It took the USA years to be able to super cruise like the Concorde. I remember thay made a big song and dance about the fact the F-22 could super cruise!
@@stallagiardino7877 The F104 could supercruise before the term was invented.
@@phonicwheel933 The F-104 could supercruise but only at lower altitudes.. circa 20/22,000 feet. Like Concorde it required after burner to transit through Mach 1.. interestingly at higher altitudes.. 35/37,000. Even with AB the F-104 could not transit Mach 1. It had to transit to Mach 1 at lower altitudes, then with full AB could head on up to 48,000 feet .. but was very range limited because it always required AB at higher altitudes. Concorde, used AB to transit Mach 1, then shut down the ABs and climbed to 60,000 feet and supercruised at Mach 2.04 across the Atlantic. So Concord was able to supercruise at 38,000 feet higher than the F-104 could supercruise whos supercruise ceiling was 22,000 feet.
@@martinsaunders2942 Thanks for info Martin. I was just responding, tongue in cheek, to @stallagiardino. The comparison between a fighter and Concorde is invidious, but the F-104 first flew in 1954 and supercruised on one engine, not four like Concorde.
BTW, for any one who doesn't know, supercruise is a seductive term, but all it means is that an aircraft can fly above Mach 1 without afterburners.
Concorde's performance, being able to supercruise at Mach 2 at 60,000 feet, where the air is so thin, is a fantastic feat of engineering, even by today's standards. The variable inlet ducting was the secret, and required a digital, rather than analogue computer for control to get the required accuracy.
I remember seeing one take off from LHR in 1976 and being hugely impressed by the speed and grace of the take-off, not to mention the roar of those Olympus engines! Finally got to sit in one at the Imperial War Museum collection at Duxford.
Wow, I didn’t notice this video at first, but I’m lucky that I found it now. It’s an amazing video and I was hoping you would do a Concorde video soon. Also good job on getting that audible sponsorship!
Somebody said Concorde? I run like a rabid dog and I'm excited like a bedbug on a spring break hostel mattress!
I hope this video lives up to your expectations!
@@FoundAndExplained It already does!
I'm a Concorde freak, flew it for years in FS. In real life I had the opportunity to hug her wheels, sit at the commands, enjoy an extensive tour by pilots and see her from the apron do touch and go's and circle flights at Châlons-Vatry (LFOK/XCR) airport in 2001 during recertification campaign last flight.
And it's also the cruelest missed opportunity of my lifetime : I came from Paris for the occasion, joining my father there who was promoting a champagne special aviation themed "cuvée". After the tour of the plane I talked (interrogated, harassed with questions to be honest) with an experienced Air France purser flight attendant. She was there with her husband and children and was supposed to fly back alone as a passenger to Paris on this Concorde then go back home. But seeing the sparkle in my eyes she offered to give me her seat as she preferred to drive home with her family directly and I had to go back to Paris anyway. The return flight to Paris included a supersonic loop over the Atlantic and Channel. I still beat myself up for not having the self confidence to ask her if there was any room for me onboard that flight. We talked for an hour and when she offered to give me her seat she went to talk with the ground and company crew and came back with a sad face : passenger manifest was already closed and sent to HQ and I had just missed my only opportunity to fly supersonic onboard Concorde.
To this day I still ache of that missed opportunity. I was too polite to ask / beg for a seat and since then I'm bold and do not hesitate to take my chances! I would have asked 15 minutes before she offered and I would have flown on a special ferry / supersonic loop flight back home, that would have been the classiest moment of my life.
There are no words to describe my face on the train back home, I'm still pissed at me 20 years later.
@@brucemaliga791 Yeah sorry but when it's Concorde it's never long enough! She was the Empress of the sky, pioneer of automation and mother of Airbus, with technologies 20 years ahead that are today's standards.
I wasn't aware of the JAL option before, it's rather sad they didn't go through with it.
Sure, it wouldn't have saved the program, but having the only Tokyo-Honolulu-Los Angeles route in less than 12 hours would have been a powerful market tool while it lasted.
Or they might have used it for domestic routes
The issue with that is that Concorde didn't have enough range to make it to Honolulu. Concorde Model B would've addressed this issue, but by that point there was no political incentive to continue the program
0:15 You can't dislike this livery on this plane!
You sort of skipped over one (or two) major order cancellations: British Airways and Air France. Part of the reason they got the planes for a pound was because they wanted to back out as well, but since their governments had invested so much into the plane, they refused to let them out.
Also, rumor at the time that part of the reason why Airbus canceled the parts for the plane was because they didn't want the competition for the A380.
The irony is, if they had held on even just a year, more powerful engines that don't even require afterburners to go supersonic became available. Granted, it was military technology, but so was the Olympus engines the plane was using to begin with.
The Olympus turbojets only needed afterburn for initial climbout and the early part of the acceleration to Mach 2 and climb to 50000 feet. Once at cruising speed and altitude, it could maintain that without afterburners.
Only one word to describe this video: AMAZING!!!
I'd use the same word to describe you! have a great day :)
Nice channel you have going here. Video format is really nice and relaxing. I shared your channel in a group of aviation/flight sim fanatics. Be safe and thanks for the cool content.
great video, it's always amazing to think about how a single decision may have prevented an era from happening
I can just imagine the Qantas CEO pulling out a machete and going 'My Concordes, Hand 'em ovah.'
The Boing 747 began development as a pure cargo plane
That's why some are still in service. Far easier and faster to load and unload. If it's full, it's far more efficient than anything else.
But only if it's full
The route from DC to London went right over the area I grew up in. I remember when these things went overhead, even if I couldn't see them I could hear them.
EPIC vid. This was very interesting!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Nice video like always!
Thanks again!
Only been subed for a day or two but this channel is quickly becoming a joy to watch. Also if you haven't watch this guy's train videos there great to.
the sonic boom objections is a rubbish. the boom is produced by entering mach. or breaking the sound barrier. i.e. it is speed related. which also mean it's controllable. it would only mean waiting until, you have left British or American airspace, over water ideally. and obviously, the reverse coming into land.
That's just it - no country other than Australia would allow Cocordes to fly supersonic over land (a supersonic corridor was established through central Australia, presumably using parts of the Woomera exclusion zones).
You're missing the point, there were other far more efficient means to go across a continent. A 747 will cruise at 0.92 Mach. It's thirsty at that speed, but not thirstier per passenger mile than a Concord. Combined with Concords limited range there are no routes that make sense taking it far inland.
A bit late, but no, the boom isn't produced only when entering mach, it's produced continuously as long as you're faster than sound.
When 'The' accident happened in France, and investigation had been made, modifications to the Concordes fuel tanks were made, a brief restart of flights, and then the ban.... Richard Branson, offered to take on the fleet of British Airways Concordes, he said that he would fully strip, rebuild/renovate the ageing airframes and update all components to make them fully airworthy again and maintain all costs, he was refused... It was known at the time that British Airways complained to the then government that they would rather see the end of Concorde than see the Virgin logo on its tail as it was their plane (their co-op with Air France). Some back hand behind closed doors deals were done and Branson was screwed over. He KNEW that the Concorde WAS one of the great British designs/Engineering marvels and should be kept flying. Yet again, dirty business tactics screwed Branson out of something he wanted to take over for the British pride and the British people he wanted to be proud of (he got screwed over with Camalot/the Government with the UK Lotto too). 😒
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I flew on a Concorde. It was an unpleasant buzzy experience, not the gentle feeling of a cruise or a long drive. You knew outside that the elements were sanding down the fuselage, it was so fast and hot. What was really shocking was the jet. It looked like the giant B70 in pictures, but the Concorde was incredibly small. From a 747, you had a problem seeing it, you had to look down.
In the sky you actually had to look way DOWN to see a much slower 747.
I would love to spend time getting a flight on the cramped Concorde 🍀💪💪
Nice video!
It’s a beautiful aircraft
So clean and slim
I'll never forget the first time I saw one. I was at Heathrow in about 1975 (so, before they entered service) and I saw a plane coming in which was basically a white speck with smoke all around it!
Beautiful aircraft though-3rd behind the SR-71 and the XB-70 IMO.
This video is expecially good!
I Love the video/live stream keep it up
will do!
Hmm...Nick, looks like I've found and interesting fact, this video has the longest duration out of the others, doesn't it?
Never been this early, great video aswell! Never knew that many airlines were gonna buy concord!
I love this channel
In another twist to this tale, did you know that the Air France Concorde that was involved in that awful accident actually 'went down' twice? Air France Concorde F-BTSC was also the aircraft used in the film Airport 79
Its not "The Concorde" just Concorde. Why can't people get it correct?
If your talking about a plane type then it’s correct to say “the Boeing 747”
Concord had a tremendous operating cost per seat. Also, could only go supersonic over open waters. Overland it would have flown same airspeed as Airbus/Boeing.
I wonder if we'll ever see another supersonic passenger plane. It used to seem inevitable but with climate change and an emphasis on cheap ticket prices over speed I'm starting to think Concorde was a bit of an anomaly
A Pan Am Concorde would be a joy to behold; what a gorgeous paint scheme.
American Airlines, Continental, Pan Am, Eastern, Braniff, United Airlines and TWA Concordes? Yes please. Wish it would’ve happened.
They just needed one American airline to order it
@@FoundAndExplained I did if these would’ve made it and it came out to 2,762
@@FoundAndExplained Boeing put the fix in again. Teamed up with their marketing arm, better known as the FAA. They then trailed their own "version" which they never had any intention of building, to muddy the waters as much as possible. They do it every time somebody else has a decent plane. I worked on certifying the A320 in the USA, was a nightmare.
When Concorde’s time passed air travel technology moved in reverse.
I used to be a despatch rider in the 80s and we had a contract to collect cheques from the Midlands and take them down to dhl (i think) on skyport drive by heathrow where a seat was booked for them so they could get to New York for an extra days interest, i think any dhl staff who wanted a free flight could use that seat.
That's Australia for you!
Their offer to New Zealand to join Australia was never withdrawn.
Still technically on the table.
Neither side pays any attention to it
@illmind tybahza That's WHY they ignore it!
Love your humor
Its easy to comment in 2021 but in the 70’s there was uncertainty with US airlines.....We had two economic recessions/fuel hikes while introducing 747s late 1969, We were struggling with scheduling and marketing to a wide body market that didn’t yet exist and L1011’s/DC10’s coming as well, On top of that was the spectre of Deregulation in 1978 and impact on major airlines (now called Legacy) and our linear route systems. On top of all this we had new automated res systems and management oriented to a regulated environment and this is what Concorde was up against besides the activists suddenly finding their voice on sonic booms etc etc... Despite all that I didn’t know anyone that didn’t admire (and continue to admire Concorde).
The range wasn't long enough for a Concorde to service any profitable Australian routes. The most profitable Australian route is Melbourne to Sydney, which takes about 45 minutes on a 767. There's not enough profit in Sydney or Melbourne to New Zealand, you need wealthy clientele in both cities. The other problem is that many who can afford to use Concorde regularly can also afford private planes, which, while slower than Concorde, can save time by flying direct to local airports instead of going straight between Heathrow and New York.
And, of course, the capacity is dreadful. A concorde would have to cross the ocean many times a day to equal one 747
2:42 :Nick:8 hours instead of "14"
My ears:Did I just hear that?
Is the error that the caption said 16?
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That Concorde landing was butter
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the audible a380 livery is so nice
Would've loved to see it in the Qantas Livery
Kinda wish it were still around from NY to London. But because of sonic booms over populated areas, don't see it being brought back.
Concorde was an amazing airplane
The sound is a bit too muddy. I suspect you have too much middle frequency. You definitely need more higher EQ.
thank you sir, i'll try to improve nextime
was the caac Concorde for commercial or for a private transport?
Actually I think the Virgin airline is the one most possible to run the SST in the future, because they already attempt to develop the passenger spacecraft.
Virgin Airlines tried to buy Concorde from Air France and British Airways, but they refused to budge.
Could someone help how these animated videos are created. I mean which all softwares?
Very pretty bird
I was just as fast as a Concorde when I seen this video about it
Funny that Richard Branson tried to buy BA’s Concordes for such a low price. 🤣
Just publicity
They were going to scrap them, £1 was generous ...
This was a beautiful aircraft
Wow.
I have seen the concord on display at Paris Charles de gal airport
To think there’s nothing like Concorde now!
They pushed technology to its absolute limit back then without anything like the help of computers.
When you sat up front what struck me was it was so 1950's in its look, feel, layout. Felt a bit like a V Bomber ...
Can u do video about battleship next?
9:08 haha mini 747 go nyooooom
The audible a380 was pretty funny. excellent way to advertise if it was real
Honestly at this point they should buy one!
Really enjoying binging (on YT, it's healthy 😬) your videos - I think your models and animations are excellent (not everyone knows how much effort goes into this).
Really hope you start to see a bigger hike in subs, well-deserved 👍
Yes maybe if those events haven't happened the supersonic planes would be flying but this pandemic or the inflation may e would have brought efficiency or 747 and 380 in anyway
The 1973 Oil Crisis and also the sonic boom
$20,000 For a round trip. Not to many people can buy tickets.
The reason the US companies abandoned Concorde was primarily political pressure (not invented here) plus rocketing fuel prices. As a point of interest we had designed a second gen engine which would've been around 60% quieter than the original engines.Sadly this engine was cancelled. Overall the killing factor was fuel prices. Ironically commercial airliners are only getting slower. The fastest subsonic passenger aircraft was the Vickers VC10 which was used on the transatlantic route. As for power, Concorde could do something the F-35 cannot do... supercruise. This means it flew at Mach 2.05 without reheat (which was only used for takeoff). Our new engine design completely dispensed with the need for reheat and would've cut overall fuel consumption almost in half. Mostly, America was pissed they hadn't made a supersonic jet, so as with the TSR-2 they embarked on carrot-and-stick tactics to discourage purchases of Concorde. It was frustrating.
Sounds like it would have been far more viable from an economic point of view. As you say though, it was political. I don't think it would have made a difference if it flew on hot air, Boeing would still have lobbied the US Government to keep it banned. Could we not have licensed Boeing to make their own? Always struck me as a massive leap backwards when these were cancelled, all the effort that went into the production of the worlds only supersonic aircraft thrown away.....thanks to Boeing, their shady shenanigans, manipulation of the media and the pitchfork brigade........some things never change.
It's now on display
The video is great and i love the ideas and presentation styles but theres so many mistakes and the editing has room for improvement.
Concorde is the e most loved plane in the world
3:09 remember when audible owned an airline? yeah me neither
I don't think there's any realistic alternative history where the Concorde succeeded. Sonic booms turned out far more annoying than they had anticipated, and even without oil prices spiking, the airlines were clearly not enthusiastic -- they all put in just a handful of options to keep up with the Joneses and dropped them as soon as they weren't necessary to keep up appearances.
The economics of the situation just doesn't work -- it's essentially taking the first class cabin out of each airliner and cramming them together onto one single plane's schedule -- fast but inconvenient and expensive to maintain. Meanwhile, the plebs continue flying subsonic and bring in consistent, efficient revenue.
“Hate” is such a strong word, especially for (among other things) aircraft. Even if a plane has poor performance and/or other negative qualities, that wouldn’t cause me to feel any hostility toward the aircraft. I will say the 767-200(ER) gives me bad vibes only because it was used on 9/11 for the attacks on the twin towers but that’s beside the point.
Pity the was no Emirates then; they would have bought some Concordes!
PS: The Tu-144 was never equivalent to Concorde.
the Concorde looked amazing in other airlines' liveries. too bad they didnt
With all the progress made in the 60´s, one might think we merely benefited from its inertia decades after.
Or should I say the 40´s? Jets, semi-conductors...
You should probably mentioned as soon as PanAm announced their intention of buying Concorde, US presidential office summoned them and asked what their needs. Kicking off the American SST project. The American orders will most likely get cancelled if American SST was on rails, and oil crisis didn’t happen.
There is one missing. The Brazilian Panair had an option to buy the 3 supersonic aircraft then named Super-Caravelle by Sud Aviation (which was the basis for Concorde with BOAC and Nord Aviation so the plane was renamed ). Panair was immensely and built several airports still in use today. Unfortunately, there as a Cout d'Etat in 1964 and the new regime persecute Panair until bankruptcy for political reasons. A Few enthusiasts create an image of Concorde with the layout of Panair.
www.airway.com.br/quando-o-brasil-quis-comprar-o-supersonico-concorde/
I think it was because there was headaches because of the plane
OK video... but it's "Concorde", not "The Concorde" ;)
C'est un Concord relifté !! Vergin est plus grande que ça ..🙂
Fuel was never that cheap. If adjusted for inflation the fuel was not much cheaper inte 60tys than in the 2010. The diffrance was that flying was a lot more expensive in general.
The problem with concorde is that it was designen to rival the 707 but when it launched the 747 as well as the tristare and dc10 was alreddy a fact.
While fuel economy might not be that importat when the diffrance is 20-50%.... when it is 3-4 Times it becomes a factor even if fuel would be cheap
A name change...
Singapore got a concorde but only for a limited time
And it was only painted for Singapore Airlines on its left side.
@@JBofBrisbane yes because he was sharing it with british airways
If only airbus didn't end the concorde and gave it another chance as an upgraded concorde for the 21st century.
Can you also do the Lockheed l 2000 SST
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@@FoundAndExplained sorry actually it only has double decker and it's longer and it has 6 engines
@@funnycommenter6969 what
Iran Air order is really a joke to hear right now.
A 240-250 seat plane could move the same amount pf people at a much lower price, more comfortably
The Concorde was much better on the comfort, all 1st Class, spectacular food for an airplane and no turbulence at its cruising height ...
Me:lets see where my cargo at oh its breaking speed of sound