the crazy part is that she allegedly fell “face first “ in the ground and she had no bruises or no part on her face was broken and you could kinda hear a casual conversation in the back
@@sebastianahahaughah exactly and they the report said there were injuries inflicted after she was dead 🤨 and I understand she fell of the balcony but that many broken bones doesn’t add up to me. And all the footage was deleted and the man also happened to work in law enforcement who also supposedly knows the man in charge of her case.
He is a professional. I'm not screaming and panicking because I'm a professional and screaming and panicking makes it hard to understand what you are saying. Saves a lot of time to speak calmly. If you are panicking it doesn't mean everyone is panicking.
“She was the only smoker” .. only a guilty person would make an accusation about someone who was murdered. He’s trying to set the scene to make it look like an accident. No one is in shock. No one is hysterical. It’s just another day for these murderers. JUSTICE FOR TAMLA!!!
Agreed, they sound guilty asf. Like how are there gonna be 4 people the night of the murder then their all gone by the time they make the call and you can't even tell them what time time they left or names. It's sad this story is just now getting traction..An they had the nerve to try to blame it on smoking..smh they definitely trying to cover this up. Now if it was vise versa they would of had warrants for all the people there that night an they would of launched a full investigation ASAP. #JusticeForTAMLA
Eric Samperio And you are right to make those assumptions because this case is murky, and we should not automatically indict people. But it doesn’t mean that people involved in that case should be off the hook, and that includes Barrera and the girlfriend, because this case is so murky. And what saddens me the most is the lack of coverage this case is getting cause Tamla was a mother of 5 children! Those children aren’t going to see their mother again, and the least we could do is force these people to reopen the case and find out what the hell happened! And I could probably tell you how this murder angers me as a black woman seeing how Tamla was the only African American in an “all moms pajama party” considering the fact that she was the ONLY ONE with pajamas on and THREE MEN were there as well. But seeing how belligerent you seem to be when responding to all these other comments, you might not care about that.
recxys I made that comment having read other things about the case and this probably informed it. He was later fired from his county court job for illegally accessing files related to the case, among other things. A big thing for me though is that he is admitting to being the last one to see her alive. That’s telling I think. Just an opinion though.
They said she had Xanax in her system. Someone probably drugged her drink then they (probably the boyfriend and other woman) did something they had to cover up. 911 call is suspect as hell.
@@MambaMentality617 say for instance it was a rape attempt turned murder i.e. too much or too little xanax, the fact that one guest said in her police interview, and I quote "we left before *IT WENT DOWN* " unquote. The defensive wounds indicate Tamla fought for her life. While they certainly *p-l-a-n-ned* to do some type of harm to her...those defensive wounds reveal they did *NOT* plan, expect nor anticipate her being able to defend herself. *WHY* they killed her is related to WHY they drugged her. They didn't need to drug her in order to kill her. They needed to drug her to sexually assault her. I don't think her death was planned or carried out UNTIL Tamla realized what they we're planning to do to her. They hoped she'd pass out and not remember anything. SHAME ON THE MEDICAL EXAMINER for not processing rape kit or fingernail analysis.
Very casual and nobody went to turn her over they left her lying their like a piece of trash. If it was a dog they would have did everything to try and save it
I agree and it’s really hard to determine if it’s background if operator or of the people . But not running over and turning your friend over and checking for a pulse or even TRY to save her .
She wasnt beat up, didn't have marks saying so in autopsy. But the fact the homeowner boyfriend was fired for accessing court documents for the case is suspicious b/c why do you need to see the files??? The released the alarm notifications when doors where opened and closed but he mentioned there's a camera in back and I never seen or heard about and video being looked at
@@francoco.o she hasn’t gotten justice. They reopened it, but they said for people to call if they have new information instead of looking into the old information. They aren’t really doing anything
If I found my friend face down in the yard, possibly dead, I would be hysterical. I know everyone reacts to trauma and handles stressful situations differently, but if there’s one piece of damning evidence in this case that points to the fact that her death was NOT an accident, it’s this call. Both parties sound indifferent, like they could care less.
How come at first he was keeping her name confidential...what is that about? You don't know who you partied with..your girlfriend knows her. 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏾♀️
they don't want to solve it because tamla was black. from my experience Georgia is a racist state, i've seen many confederate flags around there. definitely a murder
@@Elalia. People have concluded this due to multiple evidence pointing to a cover up. Tamla body was said to be found at 7:30 the 911 call wasn't made until 9:30. Why? Her body had defensive wounds, why? The autopsy was not released, why? Her injuries were never t consistent with falling off a balcony to her death in fact the fall wasn't even high enough. There were 10 people there that night, and nobody knows what happened? Nobody saw or heard anything? Come on now.
I would be HYSTERICAL if I saw my friend lying face down on the grass thinking she fell from a balcony and is dead. The lack of emotion in their voices is insane.
Yeah and I would have immediately ran to her hoping and praying she maybe was still alive. They hardly wanted to check her and were pretty sure she was already dead while casually carrying out a normal conversation. Pathetic. The 911 call sounds like a causal call between friends. Idk why the man got on the phone but I wonder if it has to do with him being connected in that department.
They sound like children when they know they’re in trouble and trying to get their lies straight. First off, they gave too many details and are extremely calm for a 911 call in a situation such as this. It sounds like a rehearsed lie! In my opinion, she was definitely murdered.
They don't sound distraught or anything! That woman was murdered! Period! They know a whole lot more than what they are saying. Where is the 📷 camera feed from the deck?
@@Samestory_Newending Jesus fuck stop replying to everyone’s comments defending this sick folk. Literally nobody agrees with you, anyone with any type of sense would understand this is clearly a murder.
Red Sonja I wonder what was his financial status compared to his girlfriend. Was she taking care of him.. because why would he be the only male at a females gathering. Honestly, I feel that he killed her. I think he tried to make a pass while everyone was sleep. The victim was appalled and he was afraid that she’d tell her friend and he killed her..
Already stating she “probably” fell off the balcony is a huge ass red flag. Why would they already state how she died, how would they know it was the balcony already it’s just sus
@@treena777 The people at the house found her in the morning iirc, it's suspected she died late at night, meaning she was laying there for several hours.
Drunk people survive horrible impact in car incidents. The body is very relaxed/not tense when intoxicated. That makes any impact you sustain much less damaging to bones and organs. I dont think they decided to stay in for her birthday, i think they decided to invite someone they hadn't know too long and murder her. Why would 4 people leave the house when theres a dead body? Trying to get away from trouble? Remove themselves from the scene? Why cant we see the deck footage? Why was her wrist sliced? Why was there no pool of blood where she landed? Why do the medical examiners have 2 different scenarios of what happened? And very importantly, who the fuck were these 7 people at the sleep over? Why are they being shielded and protected by the police department? Sooo fishy. Need answers!
In the lawsuit Meyers et al v. Graves, Tatum states that his clients - Jeanne Meyers, Nichole Lawson, Stacy Smith, Thomas Smith, Bridget Fuller, Marcy Hardin and Jose Barrera ..Judge Smith not related to other 2 Smiths i hope!! but those racist County's every blue eye devils related! This is same as Kendrick Johnson murder coverup// culprits try to threaten ppl into silence, bribe them, or sue them or beat even kill them !! MichelleGraves should be suing Jose for accessing her and family info !!
@@tobygolding1893 good info! Thanks for sharing. Im wondering what the accused position is in the community (if they have power). Gonna have to look into it after work. I sure hope justice is served.
your right!! i've seen drunks sustain less ..my own brother jumped off 3 story building just broke ankle!! Tammla had blood on brain head trauma broke neck, sliced wrist, broken wrist.. how did she get her right heart ventricle punctured ? sounds like someone stabbed her, hit her in back of head w that propane tank which was cleaned off apparently ..then they stood on table to throw her off and broke her wrist after her death either dragging her down or throwing her.. Either Tamla came on to Jose or vice versa jealous Jean came out caught them, but why cops are helping ROSE said you gotta find out who owns that house before it's sold ..I can't seem to find who Jeanne Meyers parents are
Drunk people do die. Many them by falling because they have bad balance. And it's worse, when drinking and doing Xanax and weed all at The same time like she did.
@@principecaprincipeca2243 of course people die, I'm saying if one person is completely sober and then next person is wasted the sober person will be damaged more. It's your body's natural reaction to tense up, alcohol, being a depressant, makes your body slower to tense up, and the more stiff your body is durring impact the more damage and force you take. That why drunk drivers often kill others but not themselves in accidents.
There’s going to be a falling out or someone will “find God” and spill the beans. I hope the suspects are still harassed to this day because they deserve it.
0:24 “She was like, "he felt on my butt", and I was like, oh!" Whoever that was saying that had talked with Tamla before she was murdered. That being said, she probably has something to do with the murder. She also quoted "HE", so a guy, Jose. I was watching a video earlier explaining this case and they assumed Jose was trying to make a move on Tam but she resisted, which is where the broken neck and wrist came from (from the autopsy results), and obviously from this video that woman said "he felt on my butt". Then I would assume he probably choked her to death on the balcony because Tam always was always on the balcony, and then Jose claimed she fell off since he KNOWS she was always out there and used the alcohol and weed she was smoking as an excuse. Not sure where the murder actually took place but I know for one thing she was dead before she even hit the ground from "falling", or she was simply placed there to LOOK like she fell. She was completely faced down and no human wouldn't flich to falling off a balcony, nor land PERFECTLY flat down. If she was alive during the "fall", they would have been moving and flinching to try and protect themselves. Since the audio was edited and we didn't hear exactly where the blood was he "found" on her body at 1:33, I am assuming that the blood is from fractured places due to Jose- BEFORE THE FALL. If she had fell, AND DIED FROM THE FALL (meaning the whole allegation I'm presenting about Jose beating her for resisting is false, and never happened) she would have WAY WORSE FRACTIONS, WOUNDS AND POSSIBLE SEVERE BLEEDING, WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY BE BROUGHT UP IN THE AUTOPSY- which wasn't, which is why I suggest the "fall" incident is FAKE. If she had been thrown or simply placed on the ground after she had died, she would probably not be bleeding at all since after you die your body stops producing blood. Plus, since she also supposedly landed FACE FLAT on the ground, shouldn't her nose be broken??? Thats also something that wasn't presented in the autopsy results. Theres just so many errors in this call, its of course edited and even silenced some serious clues in this call, like where the blood location was? He went mute to check her bleeding? Even more, he seemed very sure this entire call, that this case was simply an accident, so he provided statements to support the allegation she "fell", like stating how she was the "only one who smoked" and how she drank much alcohol at the party, but when the officer asked simple questions too as like "did all the people that were there leave already?" Jose had to ask his girlfriend about it?? As if he didn't just sound like he knew everything about the case? Wasn't Jose also a police officer and got fired from his job for leaking information or either looking into hidden files or something about this case? Not sure but I also read somewhere that the main investigator of this case DID review the camera footage which showed NO ONE falling off the balcony, so why did they still go out of their way and interview every single person there if they knew any information about her jumping?? When it was just shown she DID NOT? Why was the girlfriend offering the officer dunkin donuts gift cards during her interview too??? This whole thing is HORRIBLY covered up. LOOK INTO IT MORE.
Finally someone is speaking of this! There was no way she was alive when she came down from that balcony, no human would fall face flat like that. This case is so simple, it’s so heartbreaking she never got justice.
Doesn’t Jose say he has a gf? Maybe the gf got jealous that he tried to hit on Tamla and her and some other girls at the party assaulted her and threw her off the balcony or killed her then got Jose to help 🤔
you are very clever. This all does make sense, I can actually sort of picture most things you were talking about and it was adding up. You’re a better detective than these people who were looking at this case.
I've listened to the audio several times an the lack emotion of these people is digusting makes me believe these people are following a script. Definitely They just declared her dead without even checking if she was breathing.. an why would everyone be going to bed early for a party or trying to get a ride home for a sleepover. You could obviously see he regretted mentioning the cameras when you could hear him sign then say it's hard to tell if she fell from there the balcony. Also when he's asked if the people of the night are still there he hesitates an looks for a answer an your telling me none of those all those people that night weren't involved in this murder? Crazy how these things get swept under the rug untill social media exposes it cruel.
I dont know anything about this case at all. I only just now heard the 911 call. So I'm assuming you havent ever been around a dead body fairly fresh to several hours. I have. There is a smell emitted within the 1st hour or so. The temp drops quickly. She was stiff they say so she was there more then 2 hrs. Most likely emitting gases that were noticeable and cold to the touch. Like a major difference to anyone else you touch at a normal temp. Its like an alert in your brain goes off.. In my case anyway it did. So i would not have rolled her either. Preserve the scene. I dont know enough to come the conclusion of murdered or accidentally fell. If i walked up on it id assume after a touch to see if the person is ok id jump back knowing its not right, too cold too stiff. Then other senses come in.
@@BC-rz7eg What the fuck dead bodies are you around? Body temperature starts to fall right after death but it's not like 98.6, dead, room temperature. It's more like 3-ish hours for the body to feel room temp. Then the gases? Sure immediately after you might let one out, but you might not. You might not, in fact, until after rigor mortis passes.
@@notgonnahappen5491 i was with my grandmother when she died. I had to wait from 9pm at night until around 11am the next morning. There was a smell very soon after. And i didnt say the body temp dropped to freezing or anything i said its a major difference from touching a normal temp to room or outside temp. It was shocking to me the when i felt it. I also worked in a motel in a summer party town. You'd be surprised how many people die in motel rooms. 1 killed herself alcohol/pills left a note. 1 heart attack, he was there for almost 3 days before we found him. 2 people over dosed found hours after in the morning for check out. There was also some one who choked on their own vomit. Im not talking about gases as in them just farting. Im talking about the air that comes out of every orifice. The sputum that comes from the mouth. The blood and air in 1 case that came from someones ass hole. I guess you can call that fart but ive heard a straight moan when they turned someone over. They popped the guy who was dead for 3 days. His belly looked as if someone shoved a beach ball inside of him. He was a pale white man whos face turned black with pooled blood bc of how he was positioned. That room had to be completely gutted.
@@BC-rz7eg Unfortunately I am not surprised by the amount of people who die in a motel, it is quite staggering. I can't tell you how many I've had to be around 1-2 hours waiting for coroner or funeral home or transport to take the patient away. Unless they die from C diff or pseudomonas in the lungs, there's not a smell that quickly. The scenarios you outline are more than a couple hours, and although what you experienced was definitely true it was not ~2 hours or so which was the amount of time purported that Tamla lay face down unattended.
The fact he said “shes a BLACK female” and the operator didnt even ask for race they dont need to know that race of the person unless its like a robbery or something but the fact thats one of the first things he said about her.. like it MATTERS. They know what they did
GIRL RIGHT I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED HIM SAYING “she’s a black female” like that matters tf… that’s what the Karen’s say when they call the cops and say “he’s a black male” it’s like it alerts them to be like oh okay so we don’t give a f because they are black
Earth Ghost I may be wrong, but I think that 911 dispatchers usually try to keep callers on the line until the police show up to get as much information as possible. Emergency services were most likely dispatched as soon as the address was given.
K LP you’re right. Dispatchers keep people on the phone to 1) keep them calm 2) get as much information as possible. Clearly they didn’t need any help staying calm 😒
I think the man talking and his girlfriend killed her, the fact he kept telling the 911 operator that “she’s the only smoker” and “was drinking” is a HUGE red flag. He’s trying to make it seam like she did this to herself. Not only that but he also set a story that she jumped off or fell off, AND he knew how tall the balcony is standing on the railing
Dear Lord please bring forth your truth Jesus. Please convict and condemn those who are responsible for her death...give them no peace and give her family comfort and truth. In Jesus mighty name. Amen
Right?? Cuz apparently she wasn’t friends with anyone there and like why would they invite someone who’s not friends with them?? That’s a big red flag to me, so obviously they had it all planned
Exactly. She had Xanax in her system as well. I guarantee she was drugged to make it easier to push her over AND to make it more believable that it was “an accidental fall”. Also, what ever happened to those security cameras he mentioned? They just so happen to not be working THAT exact night. Yeah ok.
Their story sounds rehearsed! And Jose’s tone sound’s nervous and deceitful! They are sticking to the script! No one tried cpr or nothing. I really hope the truth comes to the light! This was definitely a set up!
Is it just me or are people really having "normal conversations" in the background? This is truly sad!! & WHO host a house party/slumber party at their house & not make sure the people you invited are comfortable or good? I'm confused.. even if it was a stranger or a friend of a friend, I would still be traumitized in my home!! & WHY did 4 people leave? So many questions.
Even if, hypothetically speaking, they didn't kill her, I personally, sure as hell wouldn't want to go to someone's house who would treat the situation like this if I had an accident.
to explain: at the party, tamala was said to be the life of the party; she was the only one to smoke and she drank a lot of alcohol. this party was a bunch of women with kids so they had a lot to do so some of them did go home.
I would be having a panic attack if somebody dropped dead in my house. Why didn't they tell the husband what happened?? I hope he confronted her so called friends, she only knew them people for 2 months. That party was the first time the husband ever met Tamla
It amazed me how calm they are after finding someone dead in their home. Him saying that he wasn't sure if she came with someone is BS. He was there all night; he knew she was alone. So sad
He realized he messed up when he said that. Listen and you hear him try to back out of that statement because there is no footage of her accidentally falling off the balcony
Idk. You'd think they'd want to get their DNA on her so any questions later they could claim they did it during the 911 call. Who knows. This case is disturbing.
In the first few seconds after being asked if you need help, you give a narrative about the night before. Being sure to point out "she" was drinking. As opposed to immediately saying, please send an ambulance and the police, my just found my friend face down in the yard. 👀
No, that call was edited. How do you go from "can you see any blood?" To long pause. "So you know if she was suicidal?" What the hell was he saying to make her ask such a damn question?? He has been suggestive in the entire conversation. When a liar offers up information it's because their 🗣️lying and trying damn hard to convince the other person and themselves. He told the truth of what happened and said he is the suspect. Yet, she fell? This is ass even a 3rd grader can do better than that.
He said he tried to resuscitate her then took it back and said she was lying face down. Then he muted the call. People say he’s an officer but that’s not an excuse to sound so calm. I wanna say it’s shock, but he also told the other officers that HE would check the CCTV. Idk if the officers ever saw the CCTV.
Yeah wouldn't a normal person just leave it unmuted if they had nothing to hide because they weren't involved with her death? This is so scary and messed up...
The first lady admits they were all drinking last night but she somehow knows she’s not just passed out even tho she hasn’t checked on her yet..? She then passes the phone and the guy immediately knows her condition and admits she’s dead? That’s proof in the pudding that they’re lying lol
Did any else notice when the lady asked “how far is the balcony from the ground?” He responded “about 20ft from where your feet would be standing ON THE RAIL” a drunk / under the influence person could simply fall OVER the rail and not jump. Something is wrong here! #JusticeForTamla
How TF do you find someone possibly dead or dying and wait until two hours later to call the police? The story is fishy and they've reopened the case because she was killed by these monsters who call themselves parents. I hope they get the karma that's coming to them.
If she was stiff, she been there for a really long time. They sound like they lying! He sounds nervous af. Why so many questions dispatcher? Cameras should expose what happened...
The coroner's report said she passed away after midnight... From the time stamped notifications of the doors opening and closing you see the back door last opened at 1:57 AM and the body was discovered at 8:47 AM.... Nearly 7 hours is more than enough time for rigor mortis to set in as this process only takes 2-6 hours
If the alarm tells you. One major truth. Whoever went out that door. had to dis arm that alarm. When they came back in. They reset it. Only someone that knows this information. No wtf happened.
Okay I don’t know what to think about this case as a whole, but I don’t think this point matters. Of course you’d be nervous if you were standing in front of a dead person at your house...
She sounds like a hungover, guilty white lady. Also, it’s strange to me that she immediately knew EXACTLY how old Tamla was, sometimes I even forget exactly how old I am. Then hands the phone over to the “trusted” law enforcement boyfriend. This shit infuriates me to no end. Justice for the beautiful woman. ♥️
How is it weird that she knew hold on somebody was? I've had to call 9-1-1 for acquaintances before and knew their age right off the top of my head, despite being in a panicked state. I'll admit, these woman don't sound upset but I don't think the age thing is weird at all.
@@sadezem991 it is only weird because these people only allegedly met tamla once before and she answered very quickly as if it was scripted. you can tell a lot from response time that’s all :)
can you elaborate why its weird to know some ones age? age does seem to come up quite early in conversation when getting to know someone new, in my experience. what is "suspicious" about knowing some ones age?
@@forevermcgeee knowing someone’s age is not a red flag though, it could have come up in conversation recently, and if you know, you know, so of course you don’t have to think about it when someone asks.
They never found finger prints this case is closed buddy they have zero evidence to prove someone pushed her, dumb bitch fell off a balcony she was literally hammered, 0.2 that’s literally 3 times the legal limit
@UCWd9REKztYzbQe4V8GottgA the dummy is you if you really think a complete stranger that was around people she was just getting to know decided to pop pills and get sloppy drunk on a damn balcony. If she fell she would've had damage to her face and bones when its already been said she had defensive words and if she just fell then why hide the footage just another racist person
@@freddiebenson-_-926 because they did not conduct a rape kit exam or take fingernail clippings. They treated this like it was a piece of roadkill on the street. They still havent released the autopsy pics to the public because they know it will ignite outrage. There is no way in hell this woman simply died from a "fall". That guy on the phone probably beat her ass and tossed her off the balcony when she tried to fight him off from a sexual assault.
Had to get their story straight. Notice how they said everybody left.... AFTER SOMEONE DIED. I'm sorry they killed her. Planned it too! In 2019 I was attacked (or they tried hard to) in southwest VA after 2 YT neighbors lured me being nice to their property then turned around to attack me. Seeing Her story gave me flashbacks. Don't trust yt people in these parts. They can lie with a straight face too! Its in the DNA. They killed her. Beat her up. Both the female & 911 caller are involved. #TheMoreWeKnow
Who finds someone they know face down and don't assess to see if they are breathing? They are way too calm for me. This is so sad. They are saying too much about where she was and what she was doing the night before.
They killed her, this shit sounds like they're trying to be too careful, they don't even have emotion in their voices for the lady. They killed her, probably over a controversial conversation they engaged her in, and EVERYONE is letting them get away with it.
this whole call is them organizing a story. sick. “we can check the deck cameras ”…. ok well where’s that footage? also i looked up the first chicks name and first thing that came up was her interview about the “incident” . why when she first got to the police station she wanted to hand out gift cards…… very strange considering your friend just died in you backyard.
This is 100% not normal behavior in this situation. Working in health care, even though we see it all the time, and work with death regularly, when we are faced with emergency situations and people coding etc., our voices are not this calm. Not one bit.. I pray that the truth comes to light so that she and her family can get justice for her precious life.
They have found zero evidence to show she was pushed, y’all are so dumb just cuz she was the only black person there that they pushed her, she was literally hammered 3 times over the legal limit, and so was everyone else, she fell of off that balcony 1000%
@@freddiebenson-_-926 yea they were alllllll drunk but one lady got carried up to a room and put in a bed by the same people who “don’t know” what happened to Tamla?? Make that make sense.
they sound like they aren’t even concerned in the back..they still sound like nothing happened-there’s absolutely no sense of urgency in their voice during this call..
This is so hurtful knowing that this was someone wife, mother, daughter, friend etc. she had a husband and kids who needed her here more than ever. Everybody in the house is monsters bc no way in world I would hold a secret and rot in hell for anyone. They know exactly what happened to this lady. I hope all y’all reap Gods wrath in the worse way possible. on the phone like a regular conversation when you have a human DEAD on the ground. Everybody at the house need to be in jail and the police station need to be investigated bc ain’t no way!
It would kill me to be involved in something like this. I found out a guy I was friends with had committed a murder before I knew him and it shocked me so badly. I felt guilty for ever laughing with someone who had taken someone's baby away. He ended up shooting someone in broad daylight after that, too.
@2:14 They ask him to check her pulse. all this time you could her background noise until he checks pulse and says ahhhh, the the whole call goes completely mute no bg noise ( FOR A WHOLE 23 SECONDS ...meaning he literally covered the speakers and was asking the pple around what to say. when he gets back to report, you hear bg registry again... fishy af
If it were the other way around, we would have screamed at crime and jail time. Justice has never done its job in this world. Peace to his soul and may God protect his family
I disagree as long as the people had money it would be the same outcome. Whether a black girl in a house full of rich white people or a white person in a house full of rich black people. Money talks bullshit walks. It's extremely unfortunate I hope tam and her family gets justice. This story makes me so mad
@@xtradrizzle90 nah bruh if it was all black women and and a white woman got killed the police would be on the white people side. you can’t forget that the police/justice system is set up in a way to benefit white people and hurt minorities
The call sounds so rehearsed, they’re way to calm for this to be real. they’ve already seen this body, they placed it there, they murdered her. she needs fucking justice
He's obviously the killer he was the last one to see her well and alive . I'm assuming he made sexually advances at her and she denied him and he got aggressive and assaulted her and she fought that's why she has defensive wonds on her and he placed her down there to make it seem like she fell off the balcony that's why she has no broken bones or anything from falling
For someone who works in law enforcement you’d think he’d have more answers before taking the call. Who’s in the backyard? Name etc. whether or not he checked for a pulse. He’s playing dumb.
No autopsy photos? The scene isn't secured or even investigated for three days? And that barely scratches the surface of this ridiculous farce. There are details that've come to light that make me wish I could turn back time and roll up on that party, where I'd waste no time in making fast friends with Tamla and whisking her the hell away from those people. She deserved far more respect and human kindness than she was shown. Wherever she is now, I have no doubt she's enveloped in love and light.
Any INNOCENT person in this situation would simply call the police, give relevant information or whatever is asked, and leave the investigation to the authorities But no, they're painting a backstory with ease. They had it crafted and rehearsed, ready to go...
First girl got nervous and didn’t know what story to go with so she had him take the lead. He offered to check the cameras knowing damn well he would come back with “somehow the footage didn’t get saved” and he just wanted it to look like they weren’t hiding anything. If someone was dead in your backyard y’all would be checking footage right away not casually talking in the background while someone’s on the phone with 911 like oh I guess I couuuld check the cameras if you waaant. Nope y’all guilty asf
Ask yourself if you see a friend drinking,would you let her outside our would you lock if it's high up,also everyone couldn't be sleep it's a party I call bs.
Ask yourself if you see your friend drinking would you let them drive home? You'd think no, but yet still thousands of drunk drivers kill people on the road every year
Alyssa Brown ask yourself if it’s suspicious that one of the boyfriends of her “friends” attempted to get information about the case that was classified and got fired from his job at that police station!
here are the things that stick out me in this case (because i just discovered it). they are too calm, you find someone dead in your yard at 8am, you panic. right off the bat, 6 rich white women befriending a black women when racism is pretty natural in their area. a mother who was clearly happy and had no history xanx, which she had supposedly willingly taken. the constant reassurance of telling law enforcement that tamala kept going to the balcony to smoke, you don’t need to hound the concept that “she was the only smoker” unless you want to normalize something. cigs and lighter were just sitting around, most smokers, esp if you are the only smoker, will put their stuff in their pockets. jose works in law enforcement, and clearly isn’t very good at his job (also seemed to pretend like he didn’t know if he was supposed to touch the body or not), he may have slipped up when they said “we can watch the camera” and from what i know nothing came from that footage, if any was given up to the cops. jose said he saw tamala in the morning, which seems weird, that she would go unnoticed to being at the house, or weird that no one showed her out, she was also stiff. she was laying flat, which is possible but odd for a 20ft fall, because of the amount of substances i understand the fast death, tho where was the noise. the security system was set off so many times that’s the foot track doesn’t make sense.
Wow. They gave a whole alibi which is not normal and are unusually calm for finding a dead “friend” in their yard. Waiting for a ride? Why would she be waiting for a ride at a sleepover? No able bodied person dies from a 20 ft fall onto grass. He’s clearly lying. Incredibly disgusting. The 911 person can tell he’s lying by the questions she’s asking.
The visitor came in and called for an ambulance 2 hours after finding Tamla. Why would you even ask for an ambulance when someone is non responsive for 2 hours?
I want to know how she sustained postmortem injuries?! Like her broken wrist, they're saying it happened after her body was deceased. How?! Did they trample her or beat her after she was already dead? Or did it happen when they were throwing her over the balcony?! It is just crazy that it took her story being spread across social media for her family to even start getting answers! Forsyth County needs to be investigated. This beautiful woman was a mother of 6 children, a loving wife, sister and daughter. Her story needs to be spread far and wide, so these kinds of cover ups, and hidden truths will be forced into the light. This is NOT ok! #JusticeForTamla #SayHerName #TamlaHorsford For anyone interested, Amber loves Mysteries Yt channel has a video about this whole twisted case. I can post the link if it is ok with this channel.
Yeah, show me the CORONER'S report that says she sustained post mortem injuries... Oh wait you can't because the coroner's report says all of her injuries were consistent with a fall
I had a similar experience she did in the South in 2019. Yt neighbors tried to attack me on cue after being nice and luring me to their property. tried to attack me out of no where. They have the ability to lie with a straight face, work together and on cue. Going to court now to address these people. After that I will never be alone with any yt person. It happened. They killed her. Beat her. They have no emotion in their voice. #TheMoreWeKnow
Strange how the man added the height of the balcony rail, into the distance of her 20' fall, as if she stood on the 4' rail instead of just falling over it.
I order pizza with more panic in my voice then this 911 call. This is just sad
the crazy part is that she allegedly fell “face first “ in the ground and she had no bruises or no part on her face was broken and you could kinda hear a casual conversation in the back
@@sebastianahahaughah exactly and they the report said there were injuries inflicted after she was dead 🤨 and I understand she fell of the balcony but that many broken bones doesn’t add up to me. And all the footage was deleted and the man also happened to work in law enforcement who also supposedly knows the man in charge of her case.
Girl yess wtf
I order pizza with no panic 🤣🤦🏽♀️ so they get my order correct
He is a professional. I'm not screaming and panicking because I'm a professional and screaming and panicking makes it hard to understand what you are saying. Saves a lot of time to speak calmly.
If you are panicking it doesn't mean everyone is panicking.
“She was the only smoker” .. only a guilty person would make an accusation about someone who was murdered. He’s trying to set the scene to make it look like an accident. No one is in shock. No one is hysterical. It’s just another day for these murderers. JUSTICE FOR TAMLA!!!
Agreed, they sound guilty asf. Like how are there gonna be 4 people the night of the murder then their all gone by the time they make the call and you can't even tell them what time time they left or names. It's sad this story is just now getting traction..An they had the nerve to try to blame it on smoking..smh they definitely trying to cover this up.
Now if it was vise versa they would of had warrants for all the people there that night an they would of launched a full investigation ASAP. #JusticeForTAMLA
He made it look like she was on something but he could not say it at that time because it looked too convenient.
Eric Samperio And you are right to make those assumptions because this case is murky, and we should not automatically indict people. But it doesn’t mean that people involved in that case should be off the hook, and that includes Barrera and the girlfriend, because this case is so murky. And what saddens me the most is the lack of coverage this case is getting cause Tamla was a mother of 5 children! Those children aren’t going to see their mother again, and the least we could do is force these people to reopen the case and find out what the hell happened! And I could probably tell you how this murder angers me as a black woman seeing how Tamla was the only African American in an “all moms pajama party” considering the fact that she was the ONLY ONE with pajamas on and THREE MEN were there as well. But seeing how belligerent you seem to be when responding to all these other comments, you might not care about that.
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Totally AGREE !!
If someone died in my house I would be screaming
People can be shocked and don't scream. I was attacked by a man in my house and I couldn't scream
Rominder WKND that’s you being attacked . I’m sorry that happened to you btw. But why is everyone so calm? They’re still shocked ?
@@glowupjess sometimes reactions are weird I think they had a long night and they drank. I don't want to excuse them but anything is possible.
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I wouldn't. I don't understand screaming.
And maby they were on Xanax like she was.
Its a big red flag when someone starts explaining a cause of death on a 911 call.
i was literally just thinking this
@@Samestory_Newending right
Facts !
Instead of asking for help just instantly starts explaining
The man talking - he killed her. When he said ‘she was the last one I saw when everyone went to bed’ was a big flag.
Tbh I don’t get that vibe from him at all he didn’t make any accusations or anything like the girl/s but idk
recxys I made that comment having read other things about the case and this probably informed it. He was later fired from his county court job for illegally accessing files related to the case, among other things. A big thing for me though is that he is admitting to being the last one to see her alive. That’s telling I think. Just an opinion though.
They said she had Xanax in her system. Someone probably drugged her drink then they (probably the boyfriend and other woman) did something they had to cover up. 911 call is suspect as hell.
@@MambaMentality617 say for instance it was a rape attempt turned murder i.e. too much or too little xanax, the fact that one guest said in her police interview, and I quote "we left before *IT WENT DOWN* " unquote.
The defensive wounds indicate Tamla fought for her life.
While they certainly *p-l-a-n-ned* to do some type of harm to her...those defensive wounds reveal they did *NOT* plan, expect nor anticipate her being able to defend herself.
*WHY* they killed her is related to WHY they drugged her. They didn't need to drug her in order to kill her. They needed to drug her to sexually assault her. I don't think her death was planned or carried out UNTIL Tamla realized what they we're planning to do to her.
They hoped she'd pass out and not remember anything. SHAME ON THE MEDICAL EXAMINER for not processing rape kit or fingernail analysis.
I agree with you, he’s the same dude that was fired.
You can hear casual conversation in the back
Very casual and nobody went to turn her over they left her lying their like a piece of trash. If it was a dog they would have did everything to try and save it
@@jamoniecarter2699 she was stiff, gone. Why turn her over? Possible crime scene. Better not to mess that up.
I agree and it’s really hard to determine if it’s background if operator or of the people . But not running over and turning your friend over and checking for a pulse or even TRY to save her .
Principeca Principeca you can check for a pulse
Wow!!! They do not appear to be concerned at all!!!
They sound like they don't care.. Just fake. They beat that woman up
Eric Samperio Who cares what you see demon? Why are you here again? ARE you one of her murderers???
Eric Samperio you can’t lie there’s no sense of urgency in the phone call
@@Ekiawo some become very calm in these kind of situations. Not everyone get hysterical.
@@principecaprincipeca2243 easy for you to say, you probably been in a situation like dis bet you did the dirty work as Well 👀
She wasnt beat up, didn't have marks saying so in autopsy. But the fact the homeowner boyfriend was fired for accessing court documents for the case is suspicious b/c why do you need to see the files??? The released the alarm notifications when doors where opened and closed but he mentioned there's a camera in back and I never seen or heard about and video being looked at
They finally reopened her case- I hope to God poor Tamla gets justice
this was 4 months ago, did she get justice
@@francoco.o she hasn’t gotten justice. They reopened it, but they said for people to call if they have new information instead of looking into the old information. They aren’t really doing anything
@@laurasoto5508 cause forsyth county is still run by racists
They reopened again
@@arnoldogutierrez8045 any news?
“She was drinking.” They are already creating a story.
No, just told she had been drinking and was a smoker, as she was. She had was also Bern taking Xanax and marijuana.
@@principecaprincipeca2243 she was dead before "she fell"
@@idonttakebafs1968 was not.
@@principecaprincipeca2243 She was the only one partaking of marijuana and alprazolam at the party? Highly unlikely.
@@principecaprincipeca2243 Why don't you recreate the fall and if we are wrong we won't have to deal with you anymore anyway :)
She’s way to calm. This was no accident.
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"Get Out" wasn't just a movie...
He didn't say yes or no to the question do you see any blook he didn't answer her.
Blood
There's truth to alot of movies
True..
Sure wasn't, stay away from these white people.
She sounds like she's calling in sick to work.
💯😄👏
I call in to work more worry than this
Like even less urgency than a sick call in to work. Pretty clear they had something to do with it
If I found my friend face down in the yard, possibly dead, I would be hysterical. I know everyone reacts to trauma and handles stressful situations differently, but if there’s one piece of damning evidence in this case that points to the fact that her death was NOT an accident, it’s this call. Both parties sound indifferent, like they could care less.
The guy barely knew her. He was not her friend.
That !!!@!!!
Principeca Principeca she was fucking dead, you’d think that would shake up anyone?
@@principecaprincipeca2243 "Rectum? Damn near killed 'em" Principeca Principeca says
How come at first he was keeping her name confidential...what is that about? You don't know who you partied with..your girlfriend knows her. 🤦🏽♀️🤷🏾♀️
why is he speaking as if he’s applying for a new bank card, ridiculous
He thinks he is macho. Mr controller. Narci men are notorious for keep real frigid during emotional times. His kind is psycho
Right. And two, why is he doing all the talking? I thought it was a sleepover for women 🙄🤔🤔
Definitely not a hard case to solve. Smarter criminals with degrees were caught.
they don't wanna solve it. the racist ass police are friends with Jose, they wont lock him up and they're glad she's dead, they hate black people.
they don't want to solve it because tamla was black. from my experience Georgia is a racist state, i've seen many confederate flags around there. definitely a murder
They needs more proof to solve this, you can t conclude that she was murdered just because they were calm :/
@@Elalia. People have concluded this due to multiple evidence pointing to a cover up. Tamla body was said to be found at 7:30 the 911 call wasn't made until 9:30. Why? Her body had defensive wounds, why? The autopsy was not released, why? Her injuries were never t consistent with falling off a balcony to her death in fact the fall wasn't even high enough. There were 10 people there that night, and nobody knows what happened? Nobody saw or heard anything? Come on now.
@@catrinad2491 i know but it s still hypothesis not real proof. You can't send them to the jail, they need more proof and evidence.
I would be HYSTERICAL if I saw my friend lying face down on the grass thinking she fell from a balcony and is dead. The lack of emotion in their voices is insane.
right .
Yeah and I would have immediately ran to her hoping and praying she maybe was still alive. They hardly wanted to check her and were pretty sure she was already dead while casually carrying out a normal conversation. Pathetic. The 911 call sounds like a causal call between friends. Idk why the man got on the phone but I wonder if it has to do with him being connected in that department.
Literally
Doesn't even sound like she's talking about a friend
Not everyone reacts the same way. Sometimes people are in shock. Not saying that's the case here, but being calm doesn't mean anything honestly.
They sound like children when they know they’re in trouble and trying to get their lies straight. First off, they gave too many details and are extremely calm for a 911 call in a situation such as this. It sounds like a rehearsed lie! In my opinion, she was definitely murdered.
They don't sound distraught or anything! That woman was murdered! Period! They know a whole lot more than what they are saying. Where is the 📷 camera feed from the deck?
Libra Soul exactly
They murdered her they beat her to death
Why didn’t they attempt cpr or anything? You find someone faced down in the grass and you don’t even roll them over? And she’s still face down ?
Ashland Nicole cause they murdered her
@@bigashland great point!!!
They did a whole lot of explaining themselves immediately instead of just hey get here we need an ambulance
Yes
I’m sayin like wtf…..
I just said this too smh
That part!
@@Samestory_Newending Jesus fuck stop replying to everyone’s comments defending this sick folk. Literally nobody agrees with you, anyone with any type of sense would understand this is clearly a murder.
He just said he tried to resuscitate her... then retracted and said she’s laying face down..
Good catch..I caught that too...someone is lying. They are way too calm.
Red Sonja I wonder what was his financial status compared to his girlfriend. Was she taking care of him.. because why would he be the only male at a females gathering. Honestly, I feel that he killed her. I think he tried to make a pass while everyone was sleep. The victim was appalled and he was afraid that she’d tell her friend and he killed her..
@@BigAries1986 That was what I thought...he was so unemotional when he was on the phone with 911..no one seemed to be crying either.
Red Sonja exactly, he was also including information that wasn’t even asked.
@@BigAries1986 He definitely killed her.
Already stating she “probably” fell off the balcony is a huge ass red flag. Why would they already state how she died, how would they know it was the balcony already it’s just sus
ALSO, they didn't even call the police until 1 hour AFTER they found tamla
it was actually 14 mins that tiktok was capping but the whole case is still suspicious
@@abeln1167 it doesn’t MATTER how many minutes it was, you’re missing the point she was murdered and she deserves JUSTICE!
@@Luhkiiya He was simply correcting misinformation, which would definitely be more damning if true.
Without sounding rude how would she be stiff if she was only laying about an hour
@@treena777 The people at the house found her in the morning iirc, it's suspected she died late at night, meaning she was laying there for several hours.
tiktok made me aware of this case and this and im shook
Same here
same
Same I really feel bad
Same
Drunk people survive horrible impact in car incidents. The body is very relaxed/not tense when intoxicated. That makes any impact you sustain much less damaging to bones and organs. I dont think they decided to stay in for her birthday, i think they decided to invite someone they hadn't know too long and murder her. Why would 4 people leave the house when theres a dead body? Trying to get away from trouble? Remove themselves from the scene? Why cant we see the deck footage? Why was her wrist sliced? Why was there no pool of blood where she landed? Why do the medical examiners have 2 different scenarios of what happened? And very importantly, who the fuck were these 7 people at the sleep over? Why are they being shielded and protected by the police department? Sooo fishy. Need answers!
In the lawsuit Meyers et al v. Graves, Tatum states that his clients - Jeanne Meyers, Nichole Lawson, Stacy Smith, Thomas Smith, Bridget Fuller, Marcy Hardin and Jose Barrera ..Judge Smith not related to other 2 Smiths i hope!! but those racist County's every blue eye devils related! This is same as Kendrick Johnson murder coverup// culprits try to threaten ppl into silence, bribe them, or sue them or beat even kill them !! MichelleGraves should be suing Jose for accessing her and family info !!
@@tobygolding1893 good info! Thanks for sharing. Im wondering what the accused position is in the community (if they have power). Gonna have to look into it after work. I sure hope justice is served.
your right!! i've seen drunks sustain less ..my own brother jumped off 3 story building just broke ankle!! Tammla had blood on brain head trauma broke neck, sliced wrist, broken wrist.. how did she get her right heart ventricle punctured ? sounds like someone stabbed her, hit her in back of head w that propane tank which was cleaned off apparently ..then they stood on table to throw her off and broke her wrist after her death either dragging her down or throwing her.. Either Tamla came on to Jose or vice versa jealous Jean came out caught them, but why cops are helping ROSE said you gotta find out who owns that house before it's sold ..I can't seem to find who Jeanne Meyers parents are
Drunk people do die. Many them by falling because they have bad balance. And it's worse, when drinking and doing Xanax and weed all at The same time like she did.
@@principecaprincipeca2243 of course people die, I'm saying if one person is completely sober and then next person is wasted the sober person will be damaged more. It's your body's natural reaction to tense up, alcohol, being a depressant, makes your body slower to tense up, and the more stiff your body is durring impact the more damage and force you take. That why drunk drivers often kill others but not themselves in accidents.
Someone gonna slip up and tell the truth one day. Too many people involved to keep it a secret for long.
There’s going to be a falling out or someone will “find God” and spill the beans. I hope the suspects are still harassed to this day because they deserve it.
I hope they do and she gets justice 😥😥
that’s what i’m thinking. and as they should. she deserves justice
She fell. Nothing will happen
@succulent kool-aid don’t be stupid. She fell
0:24 “She was like, "he felt on my butt", and I was like, oh!"
Whoever that was saying that had talked with Tamla before she was murdered. That being said, she probably has something to do with the murder.
She also quoted "HE", so a guy, Jose. I was watching a video earlier explaining this case and they assumed Jose was trying to make a move on Tam but she resisted, which is where the broken neck and wrist came from (from the autopsy results), and obviously from this video that woman said "he felt on my butt".
Then I would assume he probably choked her to death on the balcony because Tam always was always on the balcony, and then Jose claimed she fell off since he KNOWS she was always out there and used the alcohol and weed she was smoking as an excuse. Not sure where the murder actually took place but I know for one thing she was dead before she even hit the ground from "falling", or she was simply placed there to LOOK like she fell. She was completely faced down and no human wouldn't flich to falling off a balcony, nor land PERFECTLY flat down. If she was alive during the "fall", they would have been moving and flinching to try and protect themselves.
Since the audio was edited and we didn't hear exactly where the blood was he "found" on her body at 1:33, I am assuming that the blood is from fractured places due to Jose- BEFORE THE FALL. If she had fell, AND DIED FROM THE FALL (meaning the whole allegation I'm presenting about Jose beating her for resisting is false, and never happened) she would have WAY WORSE FRACTIONS, WOUNDS AND POSSIBLE SEVERE BLEEDING, WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY BE BROUGHT UP IN THE AUTOPSY- which wasn't, which is why I suggest the "fall" incident is FAKE.
If she had been thrown or simply placed on the ground after she had died, she would probably not be bleeding at all since after you die your body stops producing blood. Plus, since she also supposedly landed FACE FLAT on the ground, shouldn't her nose be broken??? Thats also something that wasn't presented in the autopsy results.
Theres just so many errors in this call, its of course edited and even silenced some serious clues in this call, like where the blood location was? He went mute to check her bleeding?
Even more, he seemed very sure this entire call, that this case was simply an accident, so he provided statements to support the allegation she "fell", like stating how she was the "only one who smoked" and how she drank much alcohol at the party, but when the officer asked simple questions too as like "did all the people that were there leave already?" Jose had to ask his girlfriend about it?? As if he didn't just sound like he knew everything about the case?
Wasn't Jose also a police officer and got fired from his job for leaking information or either looking into hidden files or something about this case?
Not sure but I also read somewhere that the main investigator of this case DID review the camera footage which showed NO ONE falling off the balcony, so why did they still go out of their way and interview every single person there if they knew any information about her jumping?? When it was just shown she DID NOT?
Why was the girlfriend offering the officer dunkin donuts gift cards during her interview too??? This whole thing is HORRIBLY covered up. LOOK INTO IT MORE.
Yup I heard that too
Finally someone is speaking of this! There was no way she was alive when she came down from that balcony, no human would fall face flat like that. This case is so simple, it’s so heartbreaking she never got justice.
You’re a better detective than the ones who were looking at this case
Doesn’t Jose say he has a gf? Maybe the gf got jealous that he tried to hit on Tamla and her and some other girls at the party assaulted her and threw her off the balcony or killed her then got Jose to help 🤔
you are very clever. This all does make sense, I can actually sort of picture most things you were talking about and it was adding up. You’re a better detective than these people who were looking at this case.
I've listened to the audio several times an the lack emotion of these people is digusting makes me believe these people are following a script. Definitely They just declared her dead without even checking if she was breathing.. an why would everyone be going to bed early for a party or trying to get a ride home for a sleepover. You could obviously see he regretted mentioning the cameras when you could hear him sign then say it's hard to tell if she fell from there the balcony.
Also when he's asked if the people of the night are still there he hesitates an looks for a answer an your telling me none of those all those people that night weren't involved in this murder? Crazy how these things get swept under the rug untill social media exposes it cruel.
She was stiff. You say you have listened to this audio several times. You are then probably deaf If you didn't hear that part.
I dont know anything about this case at all. I only just now heard the 911 call. So I'm assuming you havent ever been around a dead body fairly fresh to several hours. I have. There is a smell emitted within the 1st hour or so. The temp drops quickly. She was stiff they say so she was there more then 2 hrs. Most likely emitting gases that were noticeable and cold to the touch. Like a major difference to anyone else you touch at a normal temp. Its like an alert in your brain goes off.. In my case anyway it did. So i would not have rolled her either. Preserve the scene. I dont know enough to come the conclusion of murdered or accidentally fell. If i walked up on it id assume after a touch to see if the person is ok id jump back knowing its not right, too cold too stiff. Then other senses come in.
@@BC-rz7eg What the fuck dead bodies are you around? Body temperature starts to fall right after death but it's not like 98.6, dead, room temperature. It's more like 3-ish hours for the body to feel room temp. Then the gases? Sure immediately after you might let one out, but you might not. You might not, in fact, until after rigor mortis passes.
@@notgonnahappen5491 i was with my grandmother when she died. I had to wait from 9pm at night until around 11am the next morning. There was a smell very soon after. And i didnt say the body temp dropped to freezing or anything i said its a major difference from touching a normal temp to room or outside temp. It was shocking to me the when i felt it. I also worked in a motel in a summer party town. You'd be surprised how many people die in motel rooms. 1 killed herself alcohol/pills left a note. 1 heart attack, he was there for almost 3 days before we found him. 2 people over dosed found hours after in the morning for check out. There was also some one who choked on their own vomit. Im not talking about gases as in them just farting. Im talking about the air that comes out of every orifice. The sputum that comes from the mouth. The blood and air in 1 case that came from someones ass hole. I guess you can call that fart but ive heard a straight moan when they turned someone over. They popped the guy who was dead for 3 days. His belly looked as if someone shoved a beach ball inside of him. He was a pale white man whos face turned black with pooled blood bc of how he was positioned. That room had to be completely gutted.
@@BC-rz7eg Unfortunately I am not surprised by the amount of people who die in a motel, it is quite staggering. I can't tell you how many I've had to be around 1-2 hours waiting for coroner or funeral home or transport to take the patient away. Unless they die from C diff or pseudomonas in the lungs, there's not a smell that quickly. The scenarios you outline are more than a couple hours, and although what you experienced was definitely true it was not ~2 hours or so which was the amount of time purported that Tamla lay face down unattended.
This has got to be the most incriminating 911 call I've ever hurd...
The fact he said “shes a BLACK female” and the operator didnt even ask for race they dont need to know that race of the person unless its like a robbery or something but the fact thats one of the first things he said about her.. like it MATTERS. They know what they did
This!!
nah g this ain’t it he’s not being racist
time stamp?
he’s an ex-officer that’s how they describe people
GIRL RIGHT I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED HIM SAYING “she’s a black female” like that matters tf… that’s what the Karen’s say when they call the cops and say “he’s a black male” it’s like it alerts them to be like oh okay so we don’t give a f because they are black
I don’t understand how they be talking on the phone for line 8 mins about A DEAD PERSON the police is just supposed to come
I just assumed this is how they do it in America, bet this call cost 1000$
Earth Ghost I may be wrong, but I think that 911 dispatchers usually try to keep callers on the line until the police show up to get as much information as possible. Emergency services were most likely dispatched as soon as the address was given.
K LP you’re right. Dispatchers keep people on the phone to 1) keep them calm 2) get as much information as possible. Clearly they didn’t need any help staying calm 😒
I think the man talking and his girlfriend killed her, the fact he kept telling the 911 operator that “she’s the only smoker” and “was drinking” is a HUGE red flag. He’s trying to make it seam like she did this to herself. Not only that but he also set a story that she jumped off or fell off, AND he knew how tall the balcony is standing on the railing
How is it odd to know the height of your own balcony?
@@gaila.9852he didn't live there, he was just the boyfriend. And I would need to bust out the measuring tape to tell you how high my balcony is.
Dear Lord please bring forth your truth Jesus. Please convict and condemn those who are responsible for her death...give them no peace and give her family comfort and truth. In Jesus mighty name. Amen
Amen Amen Amen 🙏Lord bless her husband and children
He doesnt care hon. Over 10,000 children starve to death everyday and he doesnt intervene. So what makes this case special???
Alcohol, Xanax and weed is the quilty ones here. Just like in Kenneka Jenkins case, drugs and alcohol.
Principeca Principeca You clearly don’t do your research... this case doesn’t make sense.
@@medulllaaa I have. This case is another Kenneka Jenkins. Booz + drugs and an accident. No crime here.
THEY killed her, IT'S SO MUCH MORE TO THIS. Their so Nonchalant about a woman dead in their yard
Most likely, Tamla was only invited just so they could kill her for some sick game
Right?? Cuz apparently she wasn’t friends with anyone there and like why would they invite someone who’s not friends with them?? That’s a big red flag to me, so obviously they had it all planned
@@dianakrueziu wait why did she go? I’m confused. Who did she know there? They killed that poor woman
@@jmemixx she knew the home owner who she was friends with
@@jmemixx i believe it was her sister that said she was just now getting to know them
@@dianakrueziu and it’s weird how all white woman left and she is the only one who slept there, as if they planned it that way
3.5 to 4 ft railing. Average woman is 5.5 ft. Doesn't add up. This was never properly investigated from the beginning. This was a struggle and murder.
Exactly. She had Xanax in her system as well. I guarantee she was drugged to make it easier to push her over AND to make it more believable that it was “an accidental fall”.
Also, what ever happened to those security cameras he mentioned? They just so happen to not be working THAT exact night.
Yeah ok.
@@Shelbsalexis right! I can't believe this was never looked into again and put every attendee under a fucking microscope.
I think one of the two men tried to make a pass at her and when she said no there was a struggle and she got pushed over. :(
Tegan Smith exactly this
sprained wrist?? and no broken nose falling face to the ground. it doesn’t add up
Then people laughing and talking in the background .
this sounds like a casual conversation
The officer didn’t even say the police is on the way 😭 if this lady was unconscious she probably was dying through this whole conversation
@@ethanstopic EXACTLYYY!!! Like damn. I've never knew 911 calls for almost 8 min long.🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
At the start you can literally hear casual conversation in the back
Their story sounds rehearsed! And Jose’s tone sound’s nervous and deceitful! They are sticking to the script! No one tried cpr or nothing. I really hope the truth comes to the light! This was definitely a set up!
Yes you are 100 percent right
They did a poor azzzz job of lying!
MindYo BusinessBitch he claims he tried go perform CPR
BS. They all had probably hangover or were still drunk
@@dejenaelatrice9364 yes, but noticed she was allready stiff. No use to do cpr at that point anymore.
Is it just me or are people really having "normal conversations" in the background? This is truly sad!! & WHO host a house party/slumber party at their house & not make sure the people you invited are comfortable or good? I'm confused.. even if it was a stranger or a friend of a friend, I would still be traumitized in my home!! & WHY did 4 people leave? So many questions.
Even if, hypothetically speaking, they didn't kill her, I personally, sure as hell wouldn't want to go to someone's house who would treat the situation like this if I had an accident.
to explain: at the party, tamala was said to be the life of the party; she was the only one to smoke and she drank a lot of alcohol. this party was a bunch of women with kids so they had a lot to do so some of them did go home.
They’re all so calm like they’re on a regular phone call. I would be screaming
I would be having a panic attack if somebody dropped dead in my house. Why didn't they tell the husband what happened?? I hope he confronted her so called friends, she only knew them people for 2 months. That party was the first time the husband ever met Tamla
It amazed me how calm they are after finding someone dead in their home. Him saying that he wasn't sure if she came with someone is BS. He was there all night; he knew she was alone. So sad
They have cameras. I heard him say they have cameras, check that footage.
He realized he messed up when he said that. Listen and you hear him try to back out of that statement because there is no footage of her accidentally falling off the balcony
They probably have, If there was footage of the balcony.
She was drunk as a skunk and fell.
Principeca Principeca you sound drunk as a skunk. She was murdered
@@niyawhite774 she was not. She was on mulible substances and fell. That's it.
Principeca Principeca I hope you fall and that’s it. Stop defending them bc you know they killed her
she didn’t fall. if she had fell face down her nose would have been broken
Sure her hand was fractured so she could’ve landed on her hands first
I am only learning about this story today ... WHY are they so calm ????
i am only learning about it today
I’ve been working customer service 10+ years and people sound more panicked calling about a $4.31 miscellaneous credit card charge 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😥😭😭😭😭
THEY MURDERED HER
JUSTICE FOR TAMLA ✊🏼
“The woman we believe to be deceased” WHAT?
If you’re not sure, find out and give assistance. Suspect AF
"I don't know if i should touch her." Perfect indication of someone afraid of being accused more than doing everything they can to help
Idk. You'd think they'd want to get their DNA on her so any questions later they could claim they did it during the 911 call.
Who knows. This case is disturbing.
Still can’t believe they said this was accidental.... they better reopen this damn case !!!! We need justice for this one . Enough is enough.
In the first few seconds after being asked if you need help, you give a narrative about the night before. Being sure to point out "she" was drinking.
As opposed to immediately saying, please send an ambulance and the police, my just found my friend face down in the yard. 👀
“Is she breathing?” “I don’t know” yeah this totally sounds like someone who’s very concerned that her own friend fell off a balcony at her house
She sounds like she’s ordering pizza…so calm.
Wonder what was said during that 20 second pause???
Yeah what was that?? Did he seriously mute the 911 call? Or did they censor something out on purpose?
The phone number was being recited .
Phone number
No, that call was edited. How do you go from "can you see any blood?" To long pause. "So you know if she was suicidal?" What the hell was he saying to make her ask such a damn question?? He has been suggestive in the entire conversation. When a liar offers up information it's because their 🗣️lying and trying damn hard to convince the other person and themselves. He told the truth of what happened and said he is the suspect. Yet, she fell? This is ass even a 3rd grader can do better than that.
@@WealthyMompreneur FACTSS
He said he tried to resuscitate her then took it back and said she was lying face down. Then he muted the call. People say he’s an officer but that’s not an excuse to sound so calm. I wanna say it’s shock, but he also told the other officers that HE would check the CCTV. Idk if the officers ever saw the CCTV.
2:14 "uhh" cut out for 20 seconds??? What was said in that phone call?
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
that’s where he muted himself in the call. suspicious
Yeah wouldn't a normal person just leave it unmuted if they had nothing to hide because they weren't involved with her death? This is so scary and messed up...
The first lady admits they were all drinking last night but she somehow knows she’s not just passed out even tho she hasn’t checked on her yet..? She then passes the phone and the guy immediately knows her condition and admits she’s dead? That’s proof in the pudding that they’re lying lol
Another red flag is him sighing at the questions being asked. He was definitely involved.
Did any else notice when the lady asked “how far is the balcony from the ground?” He responded “about 20ft from where your feet would be standing ON THE RAIL” a drunk / under the influence person could simply fall OVER the rail and not jump. Something is wrong here! #JusticeForTamla
He also said he “tried to resuscitate her” then switched to “I didn’t want to turn her around”
How do you resuscitate someone who is face down?
I absolutely heard that.Yes !! Definitely something is wrong .
I also heard him say she was the last person he saw on the kitchen .Twice .Whatever happened,started in the kitchen
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Thank god they reopened this case.
“She was drinking” first thing they was hype to say and they are too calm for me…
The gf stated tamla was on the balcony the bf stated she was in the kitchen waiting around for a ride 🤔
How TF do you find someone possibly dead or dying and wait until two hours later to call the police? The story is fishy and they've reopened the case because she was killed by these monsters who call themselves parents. I hope they get the karma that's coming to them.
Well there were 7 other peoples there, they probably all had a meeting to get their story straight. 😖
If she was stiff, she been there for a really long time. They sound like they lying! He sounds nervous af. Why so many questions dispatcher? Cameras should expose what happened...
The coroner's report said she passed away after midnight... From the time stamped notifications of the doors opening and closing you see the back door last opened at 1:57 AM and the body was discovered at 8:47 AM.... Nearly 7 hours is more than enough time for rigor mortis to set in as this process only takes 2-6 hours
If the alarm tells you. One major truth.
Whoever went out that door. had to dis arm that alarm.
When they came back in. They reset it. Only someone that knows this information. No wtf happened.
They always ask them a lot of questions.
That man was talking about her “stiff body” too calmly.
This dude really just said "I'm completely not sure" he sounds nervous...
Okay I don’t know what to think about this case as a whole, but I don’t think this point matters. Of course you’d be nervous if you were standing in front of a dead person at your house...
No one starts with telling a story when their friend could possibly be dead. It would’ve started with “my friend is unresponsive”
She sounds like a hungover, guilty white lady. Also, it’s strange to me that she immediately knew EXACTLY how old Tamla was, sometimes I even forget exactly how old I am. Then hands the phone over to the “trusted” law enforcement boyfriend. This shit infuriates me to no end. Justice for the beautiful woman. ♥️
How is it weird that she knew hold on somebody was? I've had to call 9-1-1 for acquaintances before and knew their age right off the top of my head, despite being in a panicked state. I'll admit, these woman don't sound upset but I don't think the age thing is weird at all.
@@sadezem991 it is only weird because these people only allegedly met tamla once before and she answered very quickly as if it was scripted. you can tell a lot from response time that’s all :)
can you elaborate why its weird to know some ones age? age does seem to come up quite early in conversation when getting to know someone new, in my experience. what is "suspicious" about knowing some ones age?
@@sleepwalking1554 they’re saying it’s how FAST she knew her age. She didn’t have to think about it.
@@forevermcgeee knowing someone’s age is not a red flag though, it could have come up in conversation recently, and if you know, you know, so of course you don’t have to think about it when someone asks.
what's disturbing is how calm they were. if it were me i would be screaming
it’s weird to me that they’re already trying to paint the picture..
They never found finger prints this case is closed buddy they have zero evidence to prove someone pushed her, dumb bitch fell off a balcony she was literally hammered, 0.2 that’s literally 3 times the legal limit
@UCWd9REKztYzbQe4V8GottgA the dummy is you if you really think a complete stranger that was around people she was just getting to know decided to pop pills and get sloppy drunk on a damn balcony. If she fell she would've had damage to her face and bones when its already been said she had defensive words and if she just fell then why hide the footage just another racist person
So, they have cameras? I'd like to see the footage to make sure she wasn't pushed.
They sound so... emotionless. Like theyre just having a typical conversation.
She was definitely murdered! They were so calm. And they were already making up a story.
Weird how they never found any evidence to show that even tho
@@freddiebenson-_-926 because they did not conduct a rape kit exam or take fingernail clippings. They treated this like it was a piece of roadkill on the street. They still havent released the autopsy pics to the public because they know it will ignite outrage. There is no way in hell this woman simply died from a "fall". That guy on the phone probably beat her ass and tossed her off the balcony when she tried to fight him off from a sexual assault.
They also took HOURS to call the police after the home owners aunt found the body
How did you find that out?
it was an hour but nonetheless very sketchy
@@keilajulissa4986 they said it
Had to get their story straight. Notice how they said everybody left.... AFTER SOMEONE DIED. I'm sorry they killed her. Planned it too! In 2019 I was attacked (or they tried hard to) in southwest VA after 2 YT neighbors lured me being nice to their property then turned around to attack me. Seeing Her story gave me flashbacks. Don't trust yt people in these parts. They can lie with a straight face too! Its in the DNA. They killed her. Beat her up. Both the female & 911 caller are involved. #TheMoreWeKnow
@UC2BLeonRzhO1h19_QWxAyyw bruh stfu u sound racist af
Who finds someone they know face down and don't assess to see if they are breathing? They are way too calm for me. This is so sad. They are saying too much about where she was and what she was doing the night before.
They killed her, this shit sounds like they're trying to be too careful, they don't even have emotion in their voices for the lady. They killed her, probably over a controversial conversation they engaged her in, and EVERYONE is letting them get away with it.
This call sounds like someone calling to make a Dr's appointment. Very casual and non urgent. WOW
this whole call is them organizing a story. sick. “we can check the deck cameras ”…. ok well where’s that footage? also i looked up the first chicks name and first thing that came up was her interview about the “incident” . why when she first got to the police station she wanted to hand out gift cards…… very strange considering your friend just died in you backyard.
This is 100% not normal behavior in this situation. Working in health care, even though we see it all the time, and work with death regularly, when we are faced with emergency situations and people coding etc., our voices are not this calm. Not one bit.. I pray that the truth comes to light so that she and her family can get justice for her precious life.
Well put
Also they didn’t call the police or do anything about it until an hour later that sure gives a lot of time to rehearse what to say to the police.
It was only 14 minutes. But same still applies. That's a long time to wait.
They have found zero evidence to show she was pushed, y’all are so dumb just cuz she was the only black person there that they pushed her, she was literally hammered 3 times over the legal limit, and so was everyone else, she fell of off that balcony 1000%
@@freddiebenson-_-926 yea they were alllllll drunk but one lady got carried up to a room and put in a bed by the same people who “don’t know” what happened to Tamla?? Make that make sense.
they sound like they aren’t even concerned in the back..they still sound like nothing happened-there’s absolutely no sense of urgency in their voice during this call..
They sure did take their time to chat
This is so hurtful knowing that this was someone wife, mother, daughter, friend etc. she had a husband and kids who needed her here more than ever. Everybody in the house is monsters bc no way in world I would hold a secret and rot in hell for anyone. They know exactly what happened to this lady. I hope all y’all reap Gods wrath in the worse way possible. on the phone like a regular conversation when you have a human DEAD on the ground. Everybody at the house need to be in jail and the police station need to be investigated bc ain’t no way!
It would kill me to be involved in something like this. I found out a guy I was friends with had committed a murder before I knew him and it shocked me so badly. I felt guilty for ever laughing with someone who had taken someone's baby away. He ended up shooting someone in broad daylight after that, too.
@2:14 They ask him to check her pulse. all this time you could her background noise until he checks pulse and says ahhhh, the the whole call goes completely mute no bg noise ( FOR A WHOLE 23 SECONDS ...meaning he literally covered the speakers and was asking the pple around what to say. when he gets back to report, you hear bg registry again... fishy af
If it were the other way around, we would have screamed at crime and jail time.
Justice has never done its job in this world.
Peace to his soul and may God protect his family
I disagree as long as the people had money it would be the same outcome. Whether a black girl in a house full of rich white people or a white person in a house full of rich black people. Money talks bullshit walks. It's extremely unfortunate I hope tam and her family gets justice. This story makes me so mad
@@xtradrizzle90 nah bruh if it was all black women and and a white woman got killed the police would be on the white people side. you can’t forget that the police/justice system is set up in a way to benefit white people and hurt minorities
@@xtradrizzle90 Money? This is about race.
The call sounds so rehearsed, they’re way to calm for this to be real. they’ve already seen this body, they placed it there, they murdered her. she needs fucking justice
He's obviously the killer he was the last one to see her well and alive . I'm assuming he made sexually advances at her and she denied him and he got aggressive and assaulted her and she fought that's why she has defensive wonds on her and he placed her down there to make it seem like she fell off the balcony that's why she has no broken bones or anything from falling
For someone who works in law enforcement you’d think he’d have more answers before taking the call. Who’s in the backyard? Name etc. whether or not he checked for a pulse. He’s playing dumb.
They probably thought she was totally wasted and tried to assault her, but she fought back and they accidentally killed her.
No autopsy photos? The scene isn't secured or even investigated for three days? And that barely scratches the surface of this ridiculous farce. There are details that've come to light that make me wish I could turn back time and roll up on that party, where I'd waste no time in making fast friends with Tamla and whisking her the hell away from those people. She deserved far more respect and human kindness than she was shown. Wherever she is now, I have no doubt she's enveloped in love and light.
Any INNOCENT person in this situation would simply call the police, give relevant information or whatever is asked, and leave the investigation to the authorities
But no, they're painting a backstory with ease. They had it crafted and rehearsed, ready to go...
First girl got nervous and didn’t know what story to go with so she had him take the lead. He offered to check the cameras knowing damn well he would come back with “somehow the footage didn’t get saved” and he just wanted it to look like they weren’t hiding anything. If someone was dead in your backyard y’all would be checking footage right away not casually talking in the background while someone’s on the phone with 911 like oh I guess I couuuld check the cameras if you waaant. Nope y’all guilty asf
Nah she said “I must have deleted it”
Ask yourself if you see a friend drinking,would you let her outside our would you lock if it's high up,also everyone couldn't be sleep it's a party I call bs.
Ask yourself if you see your friend drinking would you let them drive home?
You'd think no, but yet still thousands of drunk drivers kill people on the road every year
Right
Alyssa Brown ask yourself if it’s suspicious that one of the boyfriends of her “friends” attempted to get information about the case that was classified and got fired from his job at that police station!
um
Alyssa Brown Uber it’s 2018. But oh they took her phone...
here are the things that stick out me in this case (because i just discovered it).
they are too calm, you find someone dead in your yard at 8am, you panic.
right off the bat, 6 rich white women befriending a black women when racism is pretty natural in their area. a mother who was clearly happy and had no history xanx, which she had supposedly willingly taken. the constant reassurance of telling law enforcement that tamala kept going to the balcony to smoke, you don’t need to hound the concept that “she was the only smoker” unless you want to normalize something. cigs and lighter were just sitting around, most smokers, esp if you are the only smoker, will put their stuff in their pockets. jose works in law enforcement, and clearly isn’t very good at his job (also seemed to pretend like he didn’t know if he was supposed to touch the body or not), he may have slipped up when they said “we can watch the camera” and from what i know nothing came from that footage, if any was given up to the cops. jose said he saw tamala in the morning, which seems weird, that she would go unnoticed to being at the house, or weird that no one showed her out, she was also stiff. she was laying flat, which is possible but odd for a 20ft fall, because of the amount of substances i understand the fast death, tho where was the noise. the security system was set off so many times that’s the foot track doesn’t make sense.
Wow. They gave a whole alibi which is not normal and are unusually calm for finding a dead “friend” in their yard. Waiting for a ride? Why would she be waiting for a ride at a sleepover? No able bodied person dies from a 20 ft fall onto grass. He’s clearly lying. Incredibly disgusting. The 911 person can tell he’s lying by the questions she’s asking.
He’s clearly trying to cover up for someone .He mentioned twice that she was in the kitchen alone.The last one up .
The visitor came in and called for an ambulance 2 hours after finding Tamla. Why would you even ask for an ambulance when someone is non responsive for 2 hours?
I want to know how she sustained postmortem injuries?! Like her broken wrist, they're saying it happened after her body was deceased. How?! Did they trample her or beat her after she was already dead? Or did it happen when they were throwing her over the balcony?! It is just crazy that it took her story being spread across social media for her family to even start getting answers! Forsyth County needs to be investigated. This beautiful woman was a mother of 6 children, a loving wife, sister and daughter. Her story needs to be spread far and wide, so these kinds of cover ups, and hidden truths will be forced into the light.
This is NOT ok!
#JusticeForTamla
#SayHerName
#TamlaHorsford
For anyone interested,
Amber loves Mysteries Yt channel has a video about this whole twisted case. I can post the link if it is ok with this channel.
Yeah, show me the CORONER'S report that says she sustained post mortem injuries... Oh wait you can't because the coroner's report says all of her injuries were consistent with a fall
This is why you don’t party with the enemies.. This is the pure example of shouldn’t be so comfortable around ppl who hate your guts.. 😤😤😤
What is so sad is that she didn't know they were enemies until it was too late. So sad :(
I knew this as a child!
I had a similar experience she did in the South in 2019. Yt neighbors tried to attack me on cue after being nice and luring me to their property. tried to attack me out of no where. They have the ability to lie with a straight face, work together and on cue. Going to court now to address these people. After that I will never be alone with any yt person. It happened. They killed her. Beat her. They have no emotion in their voice. #TheMoreWeKnow
Strange how the man added the height of the balcony rail, into the distance of her 20' fall, as if she stood on the 4' rail instead of just falling over it.
It’s like everytime their asked a question their answer always changes like I thought it was a sleepover but now it’s a birthday party.?