Dr Robin Collins Philosopher Physicist, is the fine tuning reason to believe in a designer
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another nice guy who likes the idea of heaven. more hot air. you will never talk god into being real.
Can you imagine studying something your whole life which you can’t prove?.. what a waste of time
The underlying problem with this argument is the premise that `life,` or as he defines it, an "in-body conscious agent," which wouldn't even encompass all "life," is so objectively special that it being here begs the question. In reality, it's breaking down an arbitrary object, or in this case a category of objects into as many variables as we can, regarding what it is, where it is and when it is, and then determining the odds that such a thing would happen without a conscious agent directing it. You could do the same thing with a random rock. The more accurate framing of this argument would be `If the past did not unfold exactly as it did, the present would be different in direct proportion.` Err, okay, and? How does that imply a conscious agent directing it?
Classic "If things were different, they wouldn't be the same"
Never trust someone who appears with a bunch of books and papers on shelves behind him.
Why would an all powerful being have to balance all these forces precisely ? He could just make it all work magically.
Who says He "had to"?
It kind of seems like they're saying he did make it magically.
Given only the paramaters at the start of this universe, we couldnt predict if it would be life permitting or not. Therefore, given any other set of parameters, we can't predict what outcome we would have after billions of years either.
I don't see how a probability statement comes out of this.
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TJump: “Who designed the designer?”
Physicist with friend in the sky:
“Well if we saw a painting of a person, we can know that it is improbablethat nature/or an ink spill done dunnit, so therefore a mind because there is either a god or not a god”.
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Imma just say it.
I empathise with the University faculty that gave this guy his qualifications, cringing pretty hard right now.
You tell em, keyboard warrior.
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Thanks fellow keyboard warrior
Yeh I can never get how such flawed thinkers get PhDs. . They need to start taking these degrees back. 😂
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Exactly (I can’t talk though as I have a PhD and I know so many PhD recipients that have bat sh*t crazy ideas, including myself who used to subscribe to a sky daddy)
Those who do comedy really impress me as far as practical intelligence
Lmao my face was like t jump throughout this whole thing 🤦 so many contradictions lol we apply meaning to things but these people never know how to make imagination relevant to reality . He's trying to talk God into existence . Lol all his attempted reasoning and he can't get that the reasoning he uses is limited by everything he claims e.g( he likes this one so it makes sense to him specifically. Very subjective and just a rabbit whole of nothing . Thnx again for your patience Tom. Enjoyed this with my morning coffee 😇🙂
God needs motivation? Maybe we should play him the theme song to Rocky!
special pleading with obfuscating layers
Finally, someone gives the obvious response! I've been waiting for someone to say what seemed so obvious to me: moral goodness is already known _separately_ as intrinsically motivating. It wasn't concocted for this argument.
Also, TJump just punting to the SEP is not the same as _arguing for_ his position that "Naturalistic Pantheism" is somehow different from mere Naturalism and yet nothing more than mere Naturalism at the same time. Especially when TJump cites SEP as comparing it to the Stoic view, which Collins knew has consciousness everywhere, and then TJump just retreats to "no, no consciousness, and I don't really know about the Stoics at all, but just... SEP says so, so...".
And STILL!!!!! No evidence for a ‘God’ 😂
And STILL….
You beat him to it 😂
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@@rockbark2137Only just. 🤣😂🤣
terence mckenna
Quiero hablar con alguien que entienda que he redescubierto la naturaleza de Dios para la humanidad, para generaciones futuras, para todo y todos. Si existes eres literalmente Dios y tú decides cómo es la realidad. ¿Quieres paz o guerra? Yo soy una vida como la tuya y quiero vivir lo mejor posible tranquilo en paz. Estoy censurado y muy solo y no soy un charlatán buscando atención ni un problemático. El Dios verdadero es el Dios de Spinoza y tu vida es eterna, y si tu Dios no existe te han engañado. Si tu Dios no existe tu infierno es haber sido engañado. Dios es necesario porque lógicamente la creación no puede existir sin el creador. De la nada no puede ser creado algo. La inteligencia se crea de inteligencia. Dios creó todo de si mismo y esa es la verdad. El panteismo es la verdad y damos cuenta de cómo tratamos a la realidad. Cuanto mejor persona seas es mejor para ti, para la eternidad. El planeta Tierra es nuestra casa, nuestro paraiso terrenal, y lo será hasta que dure. La prioridad es preservar el planeta Tierra saludable para que viva lo máximo posible. Estoy cansado y sigo tirando malamente como puedo. Hasta la victoria siempre, hasta la esperanza siempre, hasta lo que se pueda. Se hace lo que se puede con lo que se tiene sin matarse y ya está. Se vive para disfrutar de existir. ¿Existes?, pues entonces a pasarlo lo mejor que se pueda y te dejen. Estes donde estés puedes hacer de tu existencia la mejor experiencia posible. Imagina todos los deportes sin cometerse una falta voluntaria. ¿Y por qué no? Tú decides si jugar limpio o sucio. Tú lo puedes conseguir cambiandote a tí mismo para cambiar el mundo. Soy un poeta y artista buscando la belleza y tranquilidad en un mundo horrible. ¡Emergencia! Para no desperdiciar este poema de amor digo una vez más el ateísmo es una falacia lógica que asume Dios es la idea religiosa del creador de la creación y concluye erróneamente que el creador no existe porque una idea particular de Dios no existe. Necesito que se publique una frase para que se me recuerde para siempre. Estoy siendo torturado psicológicamente. Si Dios existe no se puede seguir siendo ateo como si nada. Si el universo fue creado por algo inteligente como dijo Spinoza entonces el ateísmo es mentira. La verdad importa porque la realidad horrible y alienante que venden los ateos no existe. La realidad es lo que es. Cuando una molécula se divide literalmente Dios se divide. El ateísmo y la religión son malentendidos de la realidad dañinos a Dios. No puedo hablar más claro. Emergencia como siempre. Gracias.
Wow! This is soo bad in soo many layers… Just the ”goodness” itself debunks his whole argument, when the God creates creatures that have desires. And the God must have desires if he want to create humans.