Written Off After 55. What Does The Future Hold?
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- In this video, I discuss my thoughts on ageism experienced after 55 and why employers need to stop being ageists because of the challenges of an ageing population.
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What has been your experience of ageism?
I have to admit that the greatest amount of ageism has come from inside me, I'm the culprit. I would have an idea and automatically think "I should have done that years ago".
Now that I have accepted the fact that I still have a lot to offer life is easier because I just forge ahead now. It was just a matter (for me) of changing my attitude about myself.
At some level it’s real. Many companies need people in leadership positions they know will be around for a longer time so they have to go younger. They can’t be blamed for this really.
@@NotOnTheScrapHeap thanks for sharing.
@@davegenetthanks for sharing
@@nickjmaher When I worked for a large company, younger people would be disdainful, especially if you weren’t up to speed with IT. The older crowd would be disdainful about your lack of experience in the profession. But this is all part of a dominant hierarchy and its often as an excuse to give lower wage rises, not promote or to disrespect a manager. The corporate world doesn’t benefit from this but it’s rife
I was in that position in my fifties and my wife and I started an online education business offering courses in my area of expertise. Didn’t make us rich but has helped give us a very comfortable retirement.
Every generation has a different culture, a different perspective, it isn’t a matter of keeping up with the technology, I do that at age 79, but my mindset is different. The idea of taking selfies or sharing my life on TH-cam is alien to me, nothing to do with the technology, it’s the very idea. That is the real barrier.
Thanks for sharing your story and offering your viewpoint.
I remember walking around downtown San Francisco with two of my workmates during a lunch break in the early 2000's. We were all in our mid to late 30s at the time. There were a lot of people walking around and I commented "Where are the older workers?" I knew the answer, there really weren't any. Everyone downtown was young. I told my workmates, "people need to save and invest while they're young because the reality is what we see here downtown - very few older people are in the corporate workforce". The truth is you need to get other things going at some point while you're working for someone else, be it a side business, real estate, save and invest big, etc...
And dont become bankrupt.
I appreciate you sharing your story and advice.
If you can be the boss/owner of a business, you call the shots so its not a problem.
It's really interesting hearing your experience.
I'm about the same age as you, and about a decade ago, I packed in a high-pressure office/factory based job and set up a gardening/landscape business. Less money, but a great way to keep fit and active.
The main thing is having a purpose in life. A reason to get up in the morning. Being useful. I have fun with a motorcycle theme TH-cam channel and am lucky that I can pick and choose my jobs and take more time off during the winter.
Thanks for sharing your story. I appreciate you taking the time to write this comment. You are spot on about purpose.
Great video. I’ll be 60 in March 2025, I retired from my career job in 2017 at age 52, I’ve taken up more local unskilled partime employment since to have that schedule and organisation in my life plus some additional income. I’ve been lucky in getting employment in my 50s but I’ve experienced ageism especially in my current job… there’s a lack of respect for older people that I’ve never had or would have practised when I was younger. Fortunately I can retire for good soon and I’m ready and planning to do so. I find your videos very helpful and thought provoking. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate your endorsement. Thanks for sharing your story.
I think older people should go into politics. We need people with cool heads, experience and wisdom running the country.
And other leadership roles
I respect your opinion.
They should go to public sector. There is no point for young people to go to many public sector it or other jobs. But people over 50 just what the public sector needs. Dependable with 30years of free market experience.
@@nickjmaher Unfortunately, the older I get, the more I (think I) know. So I’ll stay retired (as a 67 yr old) and not seek employment.
Even public service is ageist though. Make your fortune and enjoy it.
Really honest and relevant video. I'm 59 and working in the care sector. Experience is everything, and I'm still learning. It's not age but attitude. I just wish employers would see this, it's about approach to life and being open-minded. Great to hear you being frank and open. I'd like to think I can still contribute as much as I can. There's not much talk about reflective work practice really, more could be done to encourage teams of all ages out there working together.
Thanks for your endorsement. I’m pleased it resonated with you. I appreciate you sharing your viewpoint.
Could not agree more - I'm 57, worked in IT Software since 23(!) - mainly presales at the sharp end, and now enablement where thankfully my experience is still valued by the SW company I work for - but there does seem an "attitude" not so much at work, but elsewhere of "do you get it granddad?" At the moment I find it amusing given my knowledge but planning to retire in around 3 years and will be glad to get "out of it" .....
Thanks for your support. Best of luck with your retirement plans.
I retired at 56 last year and felt the same way. Most of the younger people I worked with kinda brushed me off a bit and didnt really include me to much in their social gatherings after work after I hit around 50. When younger people get irritated at me now, I just tell them to be a little bit kinder and to enjoy their life of servitude. Maybe it's a little arrogant of me but I feel like I have MUCH more to offer them than they have to offer me. Carl Jung said that once one gets older, its time to develop those parts of yourself that you had to neglect when you were working and raising a family. Thats what Im doing now with no apologies :-)
Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences and views.
I started going to the gym at 53, now I'm in better shape then most people in my age bracket and half the people younger then me. I'm only getting better and the fitness gap is getting wider 😊 When you are in shape, people look and think about you differently. ❤
You’re never too old to start working out. Thanks for sharing.
I'm with you Nick. The current ageist attitude of employers is simply not sustainable. The younger generation will likely have more choice of roles, but they're also going to have a lot more pressure as they currently have, to carry the weight unless AI really can make a dent in the so-called universe and prove its worth.
Thanks for the endorsement. I appreciate you taking the time to share your views.
Thank you for the video. Your view on ageism is on point. Let me tell you, as I reached my senior age and still have to find a job, I found a lot of dumb young adult HRs and bosses that were dumber than me (even in terms of modernized mindset), but I still have to beg them for a job. Such an unfortunate societies we live in.
I appreciate your endorsement and you sharing your experience and viewpoint.
Anyone who looks down at an older person doesn’t realize that he will soon be there too.
Good point. Thanks for sharing.
I am a fit retired 62 year old. Presented at a medical clinic with a damaged hand from an accident in a small forest I own. When I told the nurse I was on zero medications, she said how lucky I was "for a person of my age". I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. She was in her 30's so I opted for crying. My wife of the same age has often tried to explain her invisibility to me too. 😂
Thanks for sharing your story. I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
@@nickjmaher you don't miss what the never had.
I’m now the oldest person in our department. The company isn’t ageist towards people who grew old in the job, but I don’t think they’d hire older people.
I don’t remember being introduced to a newly hired employee who was over 60, ever in my entire 44 year career. It just doesn’t happen. Not in my line of work anyway.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
The Job Centre says "There is no such thing as ageism" But it's everywhere.
Lots of companies want to do Zoom interviews, so they easily spot the older candidates.
Sure is. I didn’t notice until my late 50s.
You are so correct, sadly. I am a similar age to you now, 55.
Twenty years ago working in customer service, I working with many graduates in their early 20's. One confided in me why he was not interested in the work. He begrudged having to serve people our age now as he said "They have had their time" Other older people I worked with thought he was spoilt.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
I work for the city as a supervisor. I try to keep up with the technology devices and new computer programs. But I have to admit, I feel less and less motivated learning new things, taking courses, developing myself. And on a side bar, I have noticed that I find it difficult to remember the names of new musicians and bands... So at 56 I´m leveling out lookingforward to retireing at 64.
Thanks for sharing! It can be daunting with the pace of change. It seemed slower in the 80s/90s. Good luck with your retirement plans.
It depends what kind of work that you do. I worked in what you call old industry, and worked till i was made redundant at 64, it was the best thing that ever happened, I'm coming up to 80 in January, and enjoyed every second of it, the company i worked for is still around, I'm glad to say they've just gotten a big order to supply components for nuclear subs. There biggest problem is, that young people dont want that type of work, i recently had to go to a young colleague's funeral, he had an accident while at work, that he didn't survive, i was shocked by the amount of young guys who no longer work their, they don't want it, one now works on the post, delivering parcels, too much responsibility for very small wages i guess, plus dangerous work at times. When i see people working from home, who wants to work at old factories, this day and age, for less money. And yes, there are still factories left, in this changing world..
I appreciate you taking the time to share your story and viewpoint.
great watch, cheers for this.
Thanks for watching! I appreciate the endorsement.
I am in my 50's now. I am self employed. I luckily am always busy. I have a lot of experience and so am confident in my position. I think we need older people in leadership and management roles. Lets be honest certain physical aspects and mental agility do decline as you get older but there are skills and experience you can offer still.
mental agility declines in your late 70s in some.
Thanks for sharing your story and viewpoint.
First encountered ageism at 42. Was told that whereas I was qualified and had passed all the tests and interviews that I wouldn’t be taken on because it was felt that I wouldn’t fit in with the younger people that I would be working with. It was a very large well known multi national IT based company. So since then I conceal or flat out lie about my age. Seventy two now and still keeping pace with or occasionally out performing my colleagues. Invest in yourself by embracing new skills and actively learning emerging technologies. AI? NP!!
I appreciate you sharing your story and advice.
I am 62 and still working (government sector). IMO young managers feel threatened by older workers. Companies also want older workers off of their health insurance plans (in the U.S.). I will be grateful if I can remain working until 65, without being pushed out. But if I am offered an early retirement package, I will take it and not look back.
I appreciate you sharing your views.
You totally identify. After 50, you start becoming "invisible" to society at large...and that gets progressively worse the older you get. In my 60s now. I sometimes try to remember how I treated older people in the street when I was in my 20s and 30s. I fear I might have also not "seen" them as anything other than old people. BUT, I sure did treat them with respect. That is sorely lacking today.
I appreciate you sharing your viewpoint.
I quit working 5 years ago at 50 and decided to live life. Still learning but on things that matter like myself
Thanks for sharing your story.
@redgatecrt congratulations on retiring early May I ask how you did it? did you save enough money before 50 to maintain your current lifestyle at the time, or did you downsize/cutback to an easier/cheaper life? or both?
@@gittin_funkymy last job was a casual bus driver in a remote town of Australia. Couldn’t find work for many years due to my physical injuries from my trade. Spent a lot less than I earned which is not a great amount by social standards Stayed away from debt, drove a cheap car, Got rid of my toxic friends which was basically all of them, understood the concept of being flexible for my benefit. Researched the financial and economic and tax system, research the history of empires, understanding assets and liabilities, took notice of all government policies and laws and their motivations , research human behaviour researched who am I, why I feel and do the the things I do. Understand my ego. Understanding the concept of going broke trying to look rich. Understanding freedom and security Understand the the value of everything, cut back on my alcohol intake drastically, stopped taking prescription medication but I still smoke. Threw out my TV. I don’t do social media
And more
I follow their rules, their laws and learned how to play their game, I learned it’s not about what is right and wrong, it’s about what the law is, just wish I knew what I know now when I was a young adult entering life. This education is not taught in our education system and it’s for a reason but you can get it for free if you really want it.
PS, I only have a year 10 education, I’m not rich by societies standards but I’m rich by my standards, I blend in making sure I’m not a target. I do many other things for enjoyment but you get my drift
@@gittin_funkyone other important thing.
Never save in fiat
Greetings from Denmark
I am 52 years old and saving up to retire myself when I turn 60, (I can only retire when I turn 71 if I don't have to pay myself) I am an electrician and here in Denmark our government has gradually destroyed our pension options by raising the age at which you can retire by about 10 years.
And other pension schemes have either been closed down or greatly deteriorated.
So it has become a kind of hobby for me that when I talk to people I have not met before, I ask them when they intend to retire, and many answer me that they themselves are saving up to retire early .
So the result will probably be that here in Denmark people want early retirement even if they have to pay for it themselves, so our government has probably miscalculated if they think they will receive extra tax payments by people staying longer in the labor market, because it will they don't do.
My best colleague has just retired on a self-paid pension at the age of 62 and his wife has also just left the labor market at the age of 59.
I appreciate you sharing your story and concerns.
Took up a new line of work at 70...front of house in a hotel chain serving food and drink. I bring a positive friendly welcome to all guests, arrive on time do a variety of jobs within the role. Plus I can chat with those who like to chat and I can recall many tales of adventures across four continents as a diver sailor pilot jungle explorer phtographer and more! Still travelling now its UK and Europe.
Thanks for taking the time to share your story.
Everyone needs to plan to be retired by early 50s. After that, any job might be your last. So if you can't retire by say 55 ... you either need to save more or earn more. Too many people just coast along pay check to pay check thinking it will never end. It will. All at once. Before you expected it. ... I'll add if you got to your 50s and you aren't an expert in whatever you do, able to contract as self employed ... then what on earth have you been doing for 30 years? You can't just sit about mid-level PAYE your whole life.
I appreciate you taking the time to share your views.
As an ex-cop I was told I had ‘valuable transferable skills’ but in reality nobody in the ‘real world’ recognises any of these skills!
Much tougher for the youngsters nowadays. I can see why some have given up. Governments will have to make policy here - but they won't because of lack of lobbying by current older folks
@@pigsinpyjamas9410become a driving instructor like all the other ex cops
59 here. Here is So California USA, I got hired for 5 or 6 jobs in last 4 years. All entry level. All with pension. Play your cards right. Keep fit. Be in good job market.
I appreciate you taking the time to share your experience.
I 55 in walking group. Well travelled, carer for dad and event work when 17 always liked older people's. A few online hustles etc
I appreciate you sharing your story.
Agree with you, I have experienced this on the job front and the recruiter end. I just started my own business in York. So we could be neighbours 😅
Thanks for the endorsement. We must have a coffee sometime. What business are you in?
@@nickjmaher I have just set up a recruitment company so very interested in that coffee :)
@@TheIconTalent drop me an email and we’ll co-ordinate diaries. Contact details are in the channel description.
@@TheIconTalent I've added my email address to the channel description if you want to get in touch.
In France when they changed the pension law, they also changed employment law and companies were required to hire a certain percentage of over 50's.... In the UK... Well it's the every man for himself law of the jungle isn't it?
France often seems better than Britain
@@skyblazeeterno
It has its own problems for sure, but workers are definitely better protected.
Thanks for sharing this fact.
I don’t call it age discrimination, I call it experience discrimination. It is so difficult to find work in a less responsible position for lifestyle reasons, people decide for you that you’ll get bored and leave or they don’t want to supervise someone with more experience than them.
I appreciate you taking the time to comment and share your opinions.
I'm 55. Since I was 53 I've found it quite hard to get a new job, even at companies I have worked for in the past and now have more experience. My wife was recently made redundant at 59 and can't get a job. Ageism is definitely out there.
I appreciate you sharing your experience.
I've started noticing agism after applying for hundreds of jobs after being laid off 12 months ago. I'm only 50!
I appreciate you sharing your experience.
I think the older I get the more freedom I need out of life . I've been thinking that since my mid thirties. That's why I ended up leaving a comfortable full time job to become a mature aged student. I think I still have alot to offer but I find employers are closed minded , only seeing things from their own perspective. Instead of trying to come up with Win/ Win scenarios. Ie be flexible in their approach to employment. They just want robots . That's at the level I'm at anyway . So I just work now to pay the bills and wait for my Bitcoin to appreciate 😂
I appreciate you sharing your viewpoint.
F the digital generation
I can see how they’re turning out
🤔
61 this year and work in BioTech. I enjoy my job but it's taken so long to get here and build these skills. No way could I have retired in my 40's or early 50's I was still learning.
Thanks for sharing your story.
If you were written off for being Islam then Starmer would have them all in prison, but being written off for being 50+ is seemingly ok. On top of this, Starmer thinks you should retire at 71.
I respect your viewpoint.
He's wrong
You shouldn't "retire" in the traditional sense.
Change down sure.
But stay busy working at something.
You achieved long before what most people will never do long before the average age for retirement.
Thus where most of us think that retirement is decades away, you took that step much earlier in life.
I made the opposite mistake, made lot's of money in my younger years and never gave retirement a thought
until it was forced onto me.
At least you have been wiser than most, and can hopefully enjoy life for a long time to come.
All i can say is that life doesn't begin at 40, by then you are starting to age, by your mid 50's
you are pushing your luck if you have not saved for the future.
Thanks for commenting once again Barbara. I appreciate your support. I decided to cash in my chips early (many don’t) and concentrate on my family and being a good Dad.
@@nickjmaher Your video's are always well worth watching, you are honest enough to share
with us what worked and what didn't for your circumstances.
These are the things in life that are never taught in schools, leaving us to make our own way
through lifes obstacles.
@@Barbarapape Thank you. I appreciate that.
It depends what business you’re in really. I’m 57 and work with older people than me and none of us feel written off. In fact we don’t know if we will ever retire.
I appreciate you sharing your viewpoint.
You make some good points, especially about demographics. It seems like employers haven't caught up to the fact, that quite soon they'll struggle to find young people to work for them.
And where is it all going. Low growth for the foreseeable future.
I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
I can see that a personal brand after 45 is not a runner.
Why not?
I didn't develop a personal brand until 45. Done a TEDx talk since, and regularly offered high paying work.
in canada working construction they call us old guys bedshitters
😳
I 55 met a 37 year old abroad just texting for a year twice a week, well travelled and recently this individual sd can't text anymore brcause im too old? I replied no problem but replied to him
'We all get old including you' a few week s later he texted 'apology ' i decided to not text than. Im in a walking group 45 to 76 we all energetic and fit. Tnis year went 5 countries abroad and 4 places uk in work and 5 place's uk adventures and seen 140 live music acts, do house updates. I do a bit of event work and a small online bit and sell scrap. I can pleasr myself
I appreciate you sharing your story.
It’s annoying that employers still ask for date of birth! Many people think I look 7-10 years younger so I might be able to blag it! 😂
Good luck with that!
No offence to you, but you really should be thinking beyond work as the meaning to life - it is not once beyond a certain age. I am just a pensioner but considered myself retired 5/6 years ago and never regretted it as I had to use my mind/ingenuity to survive and by that get a more fulfilling life.
We should be doing that all our lives.
I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
There is an ageing population, and there are also millions of people entering the country and at the same time destroying the economy and infrastructure, in other words, the elderly are not needed but they are expected to work until they drop!
It’s a challenge.
If you have to claim benefits expect to be pushed into trying for obviously unsuitable jobs
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Lol, the ageists don't realize that their time is coming too.
😅
Is there ageism after 50?
You bet, lots of it.
Don't be out of work after 45
👍
I appreciate you sharing your viewpoint.
Have you researched Klaus Schwab and co, the WEF and their plan/agenda for 2030? Many answers are there.
I appreciate the recommendation.
Move to where you’re treated best
I appreciate you commenting.
Give Chance To Young People.
Younger people need money to raise their young families.
Give the opportunities to young people 🙏🏻
Thank you
It is not about taking away opportunities for young people. That is rather an immature way at looking at it. Would you sooner have an older man retired or contributing to the productivity of society. They still have experience to offer. I would say what you just said is ageism. Can I ask how old are you? What is your background?
Yes . If jobs are scarce.
So old age become less human than young now? Come on...
Everyone needs a chance regardless of age.
If you retired early, someone will have to retire later.
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