@@connerkass8552 I've seen so many times this comment in so many grand finals in competitions, and people still get mad when they get spoiled scrolling the comments, with the same answer of everyone saying never to read comments if you don't want to get spoiled. Here I am hiding in the replies, and this comment still follows me.
As a bit of criticism, it would’ve been nice to show who was playing (for example in the Plup section the only Ult player I could figure out that was playing was Coney on Ren & Stimpy). Apart from that, great video!
@@thebakery3802 The Ult roster was Esam, Sparg0, Aaron, Maister, Marss, Larry Lurr, Dabuz, MkLeo, Void, and Coney. For the Plup section, Maister was the SpongeBob, Marss was the April, Coney was R&S, and Dabuz was the Zim to finally take him down. (the reason most of the Ult player's tags was #TEAMULT was because almost all of them were playing on one setup from Super Smash Con, which was taking place at the same time) Also Esam was the Oblina to take down Plup in the beginning, Aaron was CatDog and Sparg0 was Leonardo, both to lose to Wizzrobe.
For those who didn't watch the live stream, after the crewbattle, Albert and Void had a best of 5. In the first game, Albert won. Void then went on to 4 stock Albert the next 2 games and 3 stock him in the final game to win the set. Personally, I think this indicates Void would not have taken 4 stocks from Albert as the first game is what's most important in my mind, but it is up to you to guess how fate could have gone.
The first game of the best of 5 and the hypothetical game are not the same game. So the first game of the best of 5 doesn’t say anything about the hypothetical game. Because he 4 stocked Albert 2 out of 5 times, it just mean’s that he’d have a good chance of doing that in the hypothetical game. Basically, the order of the gathered data doesn’t matter. Thanks for the extra info though.
Ok you sound like a maths major but the first game is practically the same as adaptation from void after the first game is probably why he 4 stocked him. If he can't adapt like he did in the bo5 (which he can't cause it's one match) he probably doesn't 4 stock him. Not saying there's no scenario which he doesn't but you can't ignore the fact that playing even just one game against someone gives you experience against that person.
@@willdouglas3202 fair, I’m not a sport analysts expert or anything along those lines nor do I watch any esports. I didn’t think about adapting speed and experience. And I would have no idea how to account for that, so you’re probably right. P.s. not maths, but just started engineering
There is also the mental pressure factor of having to carry your whole crew and being exhausted, void probably felt less pressure on himself in the Bo5 than in a hypothetical last game after getting idk how many stocks and being the last one of his team
It does make sense, nick brawl is much closer to melee than ultimate in how it plays, but also ultimate players are much more likely to switch games than melee players because melee is literally almost 20 years old now.
That's just not true. Leffen is competitive in 3 other fighting games including ultimate. Wizrod made top 8 for ultimate, plup is pretty good at ultimate, m2k plays a lot of ultimate, and Hbox mostly streams ultimate. When was the last time an Ultimate player gave melee some rep or even made top 16 at a tourney?
@@wemakeasiansurveys4U you're listing players who play both melee and ultimate, therefore that's a whole list of ultimate players who place well at melee. But yeah, my comment was a bit awkwardly worded, obviously melee players aren't stuck with just melee, but I suspect the ones who didn't branch out to ultimate as well as continuing to play melee, also wouldn't branch out to other fighters.
@@jblen I'm not taking that, calling them Ultimate players that place well in Melee is a disrespect to their very successful melee careers. They're all melee pros who are good at ultimate on the side. Your broad generalizations just suck and your framing is dishonest.
Johnny has to be one of my favorite top smashers of all time. The dichotomy of his personality to play-style is hilarious. He's so relaxed, but is one of the most HYPE DUDES IN THE SCENE
i agree but you should have SEEN the ultimate community on twitter say that ultimate players would have the advantage lmao. no logic on that website at all
Nick Brawl definitely seems like it fits Melee players better. Ultimate just moves much slower in comparison to the almost instantaneous moves of that game
I wouldn’t mind a PlayStation all stars 2 Didn’t even play the first one but there’s so many characters I can imagine fighting each other like Joel vs Kratos 😂
Soul Calibur being the one fighting game you mention is so funny to me It's a cool game though and I'd love to see a platform fighter crew battle like this in an actual fighting game
NOOO CONEY MY BOOY! Didn't know he was concidered one of the best of ultimate, I thought he stopped playing a while ago to comentate... but still, I'm so happy to see him Pop up everywhere these days. I rlly like him!
While I agree w Ludwig I also think who ever picked the Ultimate line-up did not go based on who was schmovin in NASB. But I'm a Melee boy anyway so I'm happy 😊
I wish videos like these, with stakes so high, and with so many notable people, were longer and more hype thrown into them. But anyways Great vid!! this was one hell of a video.
There's a reason Ultimate players and Melee players don't play the other game. they're both effectively so different that they may as well be two entirely separate games
Halo CE: Pro Overwatch players vs. Pro Valorant players. I think it would be fun to see pros from current day FPS shooters face off in the classic OG game.
Nah this was like when ultimate first came out and the smash 4 players were dominant over the melee players because the games were similar. Same thing here, all stars is very similar to melee when it comes to the mechanics so it makes sense that melee players would be overall better
I don't know if Nickelodeon all-stars was a neutral battlefield here though. Seeing how melee is kind of old-school janky and ultimate is more modernized (or polished if you wanna call it that). I'd say nickelodeon all-stars is more towards the janky side of things, giving the melee crew a sort of home-advantage.
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Void gonna need a 100 year nap after carrying his crew that hard
void can take 20 stock EZ Copium , Coney will be a high value competitor for Ultimate Copium
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@@connerkass8552 I've seen so many times this comment in so many grand finals in competitions, and people still get mad when they get spoiled scrolling the comments, with the same answer of everyone saying never to read comments if you don't want to get spoiled. Here I am hiding in the replies, and this comment still follows me.
@@connerkass8552 oh no the comment section of this video is discussing the contents of this video who could've seen this coming
@@princiedv Dumbass TH-cam shows the top comment directly under the video, tho. There's literally no way to avoid seeing it.
So void on his own is as good as his 9 team mates combined
I'm starting to agree with EE saying Void was the best in the world right now.
@@AxxLAfriku SURE
@@AxxLAfriku Who
To be fair though, most of his team combined was just dabuz
@@AxxLAfriku so youre mormon?
Coney being a “top 10 ult player” is really funny
STEEEMPY, bro!
@@Mishinowo STEEEEEMPY
I was thinking the same thing when he said it about Larry, Larry's great, but top 10??? 🧐
Whenever someone used Aang he always dominated. He is definitely a s tier character
True, but void is also absolutely cracked
No wonder why they recently nerfed Aang
You ignoring the work put in by Reptar
Can’t tell if Aang is top tier or Void is just goated, just like Sheik isn’t good but Void makes it work.
aang, as coney said, is in the "broke the geneva convention" tier.. but god damn void hits different with his aang
“both top 10, maybe top 5 in their respective games” bro larry hasnt even been ranked top 50 in ultimate 😭😭😭
I was like "LARRY is WHAT????"
CONEYS ON THE ULT TEAM BRO FUCKEN COMMENTATOR LMAO
@@jamesdrain7801 yea but he was cracked as fuck at NASB for a moment
@@jamesdrain7801 Yeah, but he's just as good as any of the Ult kids at NASB.
Ludwig didn't even know Maister's name let alone Larry's rank
As a bit of criticism, it would’ve been nice to show who was playing (for example in the Plup section the only Ult player I could figure out that was playing was Coney on Ren & Stimpy). Apart from that, great video!
I would also like to know who else besides coney and larry he considers to be a top 10 ultimate player.
@@thebakery3802 The Ult roster was Esam, Sparg0, Aaron, Maister, Marss, Larry Lurr, Dabuz, MkLeo, Void, and Coney. For the Plup section, Maister was the SpongeBob, Marss was the April, Coney was R&S, and Dabuz was the Zim to finally take him down. (the reason most of the Ult player's tags was #TEAMULT was because almost all of them were playing on one setup from Super Smash Con, which was taking place at the same time)
Also Esam was the Oblina to take down Plup in the beginning, Aaron was CatDog and Sparg0 was Leonardo, both to lose to Wizzrobe.
lmao coneys a top ultimate player
Let’s get some respect for Larry Lurr, became a top five ultimate player just for this crew battle. That’s dedication
this seems like such a fun game to play with "friends"
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Ludwig pretending like he ain’t the goat of the BROS
Atrioc is the only one that has been the pro in one of the vids
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You mean Big A?
@@rowdq Big A is also a goat, was more making a funny haha
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For those who didn't watch the live stream, after the crewbattle, Albert and Void had a best of 5. In the first game, Albert won. Void then went on to 4 stock Albert the next 2 games and 3 stock him in the final game to win the set.
Personally, I think this indicates Void would not have taken 4 stocks from Albert as the first game is what's most important in my mind, but it is up to you to guess how fate could have gone.
The first game of the best of 5 and the hypothetical game are not the same game.
So the first game of the best of 5 doesn’t say anything about the hypothetical game.
Because he 4 stocked Albert 2 out of 5 times, it just mean’s that he’d have a good chance of doing that in the hypothetical game.
Basically, the order of the gathered data doesn’t matter.
Thanks for the extra info though.
Ok you sound like a maths major but the first game is practically the same as adaptation from void after the first game is probably why he 4 stocked him. If he can't adapt like he did in the bo5 (which he can't cause it's one match) he probably doesn't 4 stock him. Not saying there's no scenario which he doesn't but you can't ignore the fact that playing even just one game against someone gives you experience against that person.
@@willdouglas3202 fair, I’m not a sport analysts expert or anything along those lines nor do I watch any esports. I didn’t think about adapting speed and experience. And I would have no idea how to account for that, so you’re probably right.
P.s. not maths, but just started engineering
There is also the mental pressure factor of having to carry your whole crew and being exhausted, void probably felt less pressure on himself in the Bo5 than in a hypothetical last game after getting idk how many stocks and being the last one of his team
Y'all also forgetting that Albert had just as much time to adapt as Void did, and yet still lost those next 2 games as bad as he did.
It does make sense, nick brawl is much closer to melee than ultimate in how it plays, but also ultimate players are much more likely to switch games than melee players because melee is literally almost 20 years old now.
Facts
Yeah void actually plays other games at a high level too. Pretty sure for a while he was tearing up Strive too
That's just not true. Leffen is competitive in 3 other fighting games including ultimate. Wizrod made top 8 for ultimate, plup is pretty good at ultimate, m2k plays a lot of ultimate, and Hbox mostly streams ultimate. When was the last time an Ultimate player gave melee some rep or even made top 16 at a tourney?
@@wemakeasiansurveys4U you're listing players who play both melee and ultimate, therefore that's a whole list of ultimate players who place well at melee.
But yeah, my comment was a bit awkwardly worded, obviously melee players aren't stuck with just melee, but I suspect the ones who didn't branch out to ultimate as well as continuing to play melee, also wouldn't branch out to other fighters.
@@jblen I'm not taking that, calling them Ultimate players that place well in Melee is a disrespect to their very successful melee careers. They're all melee pros who are good at ultimate on the side. Your broad generalizations just suck and your framing is dishonest.
"the 10 greatest ultimate players in the world" Larry and Coney just sittin there like uhhhh
i was gonna say lmao, Coney is a commentator
every time lud does a youtube intro i just hear slime saying “SO I JUMPED OUT OF AN AIRPLANE”
Almost 2 million!! Congrats “friend”
yeah
SHEEEEEESHHHHHH
When Ludwig throws slang around he sounds like a grammatical correct gangster.
grammatically correct gangster?
Ludwig : Top 10 melee players of the world
Leffen : .... Am I a joke to you ?
EU ping, we haven't forgetten about him we just gotta wait for the next big one where he can come back.
"his aang moves like"
Me immediately: A fox main going back and forth.
Void to Ultimate team is what Goku is to the whole Z fighters
HARD FUCKING CARRY
Johnny has to be one of my favorite top smashers of all time. The dichotomy of his personality to play-style is hilarious. He's so relaxed, but is one of the most HYPE DUDES IN THE SCENE
Fan of both games, melee players just have more experience for one, and two this game is based more off of melee so they definitely had the advantage
i agree but you should have SEEN the ultimate community on twitter say that ultimate players would have the advantage lmao. no logic on that website at all
these weren’t even the top ultimate players bruh larry lurr and coney 😭😭
The anime music was so hype for Void’s run. Great event
Nick Brawl definitely seems like it fits Melee players better. Ultimate just moves much slower in comparison to the almost instantaneous moves of that game
I wouldn’t mind a PlayStation all stars 2
Didn’t even play the first one but there’s so many characters I can imagine fighting each other like Joel vs Kratos 😂
The first one was an absolute blast to play with friends. Desperately waiting for a port or a sequel on PS5.
Soul Calibur being the one fighting game you mention is so funny to me
It's a cool game though and I'd love to see a platform fighter crew battle like this in an actual fighting game
This video does a phenomenal job of explaining exactly why it's only 11 minutes lol
NOOO CONEY MY BOOY!
Didn't know he was concidered one of the best of ultimate, I thought he stopped playing a while ago to comentate...
but still, I'm so happy to see him Pop up everywhere these days. I rlly like him!
My man Lud uploading at 3 am just to keep up with the schedule, thats some respect
I was gonna say the mustache and hosting a smash tournament isn’t a good combo, pedwig.
Glad you rectified that
I would love to see Armada on the melee side for the next event. Amazing job to both teams.
I love luds commentary video and the story arc of this video makes it amazing
Void is such a gamer
when talking about albert, you forgot to mention that in the money match against void, albert literally won the first game
Congrats on 2 million “friend” 🎉🎉
This was awesome. Wish it was a longer cut
Melee didn't even need the supernatural force in all fighting games known as TSM Leffen
void was always my favorite smash player with his adderall eyes lmao. i swear hes the most focused man on the planet when he decides he wants to win
I figured Melee would have an advantage from how similar the two games' speeds are compared to ultimate
Those sheik, pichu, and mythra chops payed AWF.
A soul calibur crewbattle with custom characters would actually be GOATed
While I agree w Ludwig I also think who ever picked the Ultimate line-up did not go based on who was schmovin in NASB.
But I'm a Melee boy anyway so I'm happy 😊
Can't wait for the rematch when WB releases their Smash game "Multiversus"
I watched the alpharad and coney auction pick tournament, that was fun!
if ult had kirbykid they cleared no cap on a stack
I wish videos like these, with stakes so high, and with so many notable people, were longer and more hype thrown into them. But anyways Great vid!! this was one hell of a video.
Dabuzz took as many lives as Plup, I feel like he's an unsung hero of Ultimate's crew
Should have had Plup faking playing an instrument during the Plup montage, give him the true Korean DJ treatment
I'm just waiting for that Soulcalibur crew battle now.
Yet again catching a Ludwig upload at 3am cuz I can't sleep
Crew battle for Soulcalibre actually sounds pretty cool.
I like how lud got 20 elite esport gamers and a real commentator just to say things like, “oooooo sheeesh” during a match
luwdwig could do a 20k competition every month for the rest of his life and hed still have money left over
void smacked the op ones on their team like it was nothing. like they were steam rolling then got whooped
There's a reason Ultimate players and Melee players don't play the other game. they're both effectively so different that they may as well be two entirely separate games
Definitely need a crew battle in play station all stars now to round it out
I feel like melee players vs ultimate players in brawlhalla could be kinda lit
Halo CE: Pro Overwatch players vs. Pro Valorant players. I think it would be fun to see pros from current day FPS shooters face off in the classic OG game.
That Gerudo Valley time-lapse was lit 🔥
This idea was dope. You should just do it with all different kidnds of fighting games.
Editor(s) really going all in recently and I’m enjoying this
I LOVE HOW THIS IS EDITED LIKE THE DOC!
Holy shit that sponsored transition actually has me reeling, smooooooth lud, smooth
Next you should do a daily hygiene contest since Nick uses a lot of melee mechanics and daily hygiene uses a lot of ultimate mechanics
if void had made that comeback he would need to split the prize money evenly still
Mang the unsung hero taking void stocks
For some reason I feel like Ludwig knows what it is like to yoink and twist
Nah this was like when ultimate first came out and the smash 4 players were dominant over the melee players because the games were similar. Same thing here, all stars is very similar to melee when it comes to the mechanics so it makes sense that melee players would be overall better
I gotta say, this new upload schedule/strategy is working perfectly.
So basically while melee is a balanced good team ultimate is just void and some extras
Woah, the Melee players succeeded in the game designed to be legally distinct Melee.
Kinda mad Nairo got left out considering he's top 10 ultimate player and has a big following too.
Probably due to his controversy
I think they would get banned from twitch if they had nairo playing on their stream since nairo is banned on twitch
GOTTA have a rematch on LAN. Spectator lag did CONEY dirty.
I don't know if Nickelodeon all-stars was a neutral battlefield here though. Seeing how melee is kind of old-school janky and ultimate is more modernized (or polished if you wanna call it that). I'd say nickelodeon all-stars is more towards the janky side of things, giving the melee crew a sort of home-advantage.
So close to 2 mil! Congrats!
Ludwig could of said Aang moves around the map like Minato Namikaze 😂
This is an incredible video. Surely this is enough to get lud to 2Mil
We gonna hit 2M within the next two weeks, hopefully this vid pushes it over :0
Void also was a Melee player at one point in time
He didn't bring in Brawl players becasue he knew it'd be too easy for them
You NEED to do this with multiversus!
Would love to see a rematch in Tekken 7. I'd love to see how smash players play Tekken
Cool to see this game can actually be very competitive, and isn’t just some shitty cash grab
feels great to hear BOYS again
Greatest smash/ultimate comeback
Thanks for cheering me up today
Currently watching this video in my car between class breaks.
Edit. It started pouring rain and now I gotta go back in like 5 minutes
Ludwig, you the goat at being Ludwig.
Do a crew battle for rush down revolt! Very combo driven platform fighter that would be awesome
happy to know i’m not the only one awake
I think League streamer 1v1s would be sick
Ludwig is the goat of being a short king
Ultimate players versus melee players in multiversus
Good to see lud using the sunbathing money again
People hate on playstation allstars but it was cool from the point of view dbeing able to use nathan drake combos on kratos XD
The current ad lasted longer than the ultimate players stocks
the description promoting smash bros. is so funny to me
Y’all subscribe to this man!! He is so freakin close to 2 Mil. He deserves it more than anybody!!
nah ludwig the goat at storytelling
What type of Smash Bros does this play like more? Original, Melee, Brawl, Ultimate?
It plays most like melee by a long shot
@@buggus1173 Damn, my least favorite. Might refund.
@@primal9238 lol, give it a try first. If you don't like it refund it. Don't just buy something and ask a random person if you should refund it
ludwig accidentally admitted that hes the goat of the participation award.