Amazing! A NO B.S. actual comparison between not only CAMS, but with a couple of INTAKES.... All before your eyes ON THE DYNO, by a gent that loves getting up in the morning...lol! THIS is how they should be done, KUDO'S to the crew at S.D.! Earned my sub! Thank you, Seth
The NNBS/TBSS intake still is fine... I wouldn't swap back if you have already done it. It was virtually the same as the old style intake. But like he said. If you plan on camming you will see gains from the NNBS or TBSS intake.
I have a LS2 crate engine with LS3 CNC ported heads that was purchased in 2008 from SDPC it has a single plane intake a Holley 850 hp carberator and 1 7/8 longtube headers it has a hydraulic roller cam that the SDPC tech recommend it has duration in the upper middle 230s and 600 lift in my 1984 Monte Carlo SS it's still in the car runs as good or better than when first installed 13 years ago I've had many performance engines through out my life none have been as reliable or have performed close to this engine this engine cruises good from idle to 3000rpm from 3000rpm to 7200rpm it is a absolute beast these tech guys at SDPC are in my opinion the absolute best these guys know what they are doing and they would be my #1 choice if needing LS performance parts or crate engines I've been more than happy with the engine they sold me for 13 years now they are highly recommend by me another thing l noticed with this engine is there doesn't seem to be a tapering or a dramatic falloff of power or struggling between 6000rpm to 7200rpm it pulls hard and revs fast to the 7200rpm rev limiter with absolutely no power falloff every old style small block I've ever had even with a solid cam seem to struggle or the power fell off sharply above 6000rpm this LS engine absolutely does not
Ironic. I just received a re grind, and I have never heard of you guys before. It's actually really close to the last cam you used. Interesting to find out. Thanks, great video.
Been driving a couple months now with the ls6 max plus cam and loving it! Still haven't re-tuned. No drivability issues yet. Hunts idle in FL cold weather (40s outside) after warmed up and restart after going to store etc but smoothens back out. Car is 98 ws6 t56 4.10s, 243 heads, z06 ls6 cam, fast 78mm intake and all the bolt ons and tune. Made low 390s and 386wtq on dynojet. With max plus cam swap, I ported my 243s. I def broke 400whp mark! Again, haven't retuned. Still tuned with z06 ls6 top end. Again, max plus is a great mid level cam for a DD with a nice chop in idle!
Great video. Great display of data. Thank you. At stock the intake doesnt seem to make a huge different. The TBSS shows it colors with the cam upgrade. .
Good work guys. The old LM7/LR4 heads, the 706 and 862 castings have always been overlooked and regarded as junk because they don't make a giant number on the flow bench. Most folks don't understand head flow dynamics and just listen to their buddies or advertisements and choose the biggest number they can get their hands on. Velocity and overall port design is far more important than flow rate at .700" Those early heads, 706/862 design work pretty good on a 6.0, a co-worker used a set on a 6.0 on an old pickup with a 220 degree cam and LM7 intake and the torque spread is fantastic. Pulls really good in the low and middle, torque you can actually feel mashing us into the seat and it still doesn't feel choked off in upper rpm range
Thanks for doing this video. I will be doing a similar build as tested here. Putting a fresh 5.3 LM7 in my 2000 GMC Yukon 5.3 4wd. Going to do the LS6 powermax cam with TBSS intake/92mm tb, Circle D 300mm converter, 1 3/4" LT headers into stock cat back. It's currently running a 2002 flex fuel OS and flex sensor, so it will be drinking 2.49 a gallon E85 instead of 4.00 premium. It's not a daily, I just use it to pull my fishing boat and occasional trips where I need more room.
Just wanted to update. So we did a stock baseline on my Yukon with E fans and E85 it made 239whp/269wtq on a Mustang dyno in 2nd gear. With the upgrades I mentioned above, power jumped to 321whp/313wtq. So we picked up 82whp/44wtq through the Circle D 2800 stall. The Circle D converter is still really tight. It only shows about 150rpm of slip up top, so likely not costing very much power up top and it actually acts like a 2500 stall in the Yukon. Drives similar to a 2500HD truck. It still has great low speed torque and much stronger pull through the midrange and up top. Power peaks at 5900rpm and holds flat to 6400rpm if you want to rev it out that far.
Great job on this comparison from my home town peeps. I bought two of the 0053 cams . One is in a 6.0 LQ4 with the TBSS intake and 706 5.3 heads. I’m considering stepping up to the next level but it’s in a 72 one ton dually and I don’t want to lose drivability! I’m probably gonna try it but this one I buy in person with a trip back to my home town!
Any dyno #s for the hot truck tq cam? I was looking at the ht1 cam for my lq9 with 243 or 823 head build for my 04 Tahoe after already buying the ls6 max cam for my ls6 top end ws6. But went with the bigger max plus cam. So now I have the ls6 max cam laying around, should be interesting to see final outcome. I think I'm going to run the 823 heads for my truck (since will locwer comp ratio) and factory l92 intake mani vs the 243s thst I hand ported. Not looking for max effort. Just nice lil mild cam. Tho the ls6 max plus is deceiving. Feels much bigger than you'd expect. Hence the 88hp and 40tq gains on a 5.3 coming close to 450hp. Which Holdner's 5.3 factory cam shootout, the LS6 cam was just under 410hp with factory lm7 intake. Tbss might have help to make 420hp. The factory ls7 cam made 422hp/395tq and peaking at 6300 rpms just like these SDPC LS6 cams. And the Ls7 cam is like a "cheater" cam from the factory with 211/230 duration. I haven't gotten a chance to retune and dyno my 98 ws6 since I ported the 243s and swappes the factory Z06 LS6 cam with SDPC LS6 Power Max Plus cam. But my old #s were 392whp/386wtq on a dynojet. Porting my 243s alone would push me over 400whp. But I think factory LS6 cam vs. SDPC LS6 power max plus cam is good for 25whp. But the new 6L gen3 crate that GMPP has out comes with rect port heads and the 02-04 LS6 cam and is rated at 452hp flywheel. It is a remanned lq9 shortblock being its flattop piston's. So with the SDPC LS6 power max cam would be closer to 480hp flywheel. I'd be very happy if I hit 400whp in my truck. So that is why I'm very interested in what you made with truck cam.
Do you have any dyno runs on the " tow power plus" cam that you also sell the 202 / 207 ? would like to see how that cam compares to the stock lm7 cam and the hot truck torque 205 / 210 cam ?
I just received my pro max plus in the mail. I can’t wait to put it in the motor. Thanks for a great in depth video. It’s not easy to go to performance shop and ask 1000 questions about the cams I was considering. This cam is exactly what I was looking for. I have a mild build going on for my 94 mustang. I’m putting the cam in a l33. Thanks again
The only thing I see is in the last dyno pull showing the NNBS/TBSS intake on the pull. I can see the thick cast/join line clearly across the intake, that is not found on the old style 99-06 intake. So that confuses me...What I was watching? Or am I going crazy? The intake that I see at 16:27 is the NNBS intake.
if you don't have 35K to through at an engine, this info. is helpful. The stock engine (358 HP) in a light car, would be a good start for a bracket car. A set of custom race headers may be worth, as much as, 20 HP. Cool video. Thanks for posting.
how you animate the dyno graphs and recap each result and also how you mapped out all three cam results on on still frame with icons and descriptions talking about good supporting mods and best use scenario is great. Ive never seen that. Also how you did a final definitive test in the intake and TB gains swapping back to stock intake to see the HP and TQ from the trailblazer SD intake. 👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍
Would have like to have seen what constitutes too much cam. Kind of expensive to keep upping the lift until you find the limit on your own. And it must be somewhat subjective. Some are willing to run higher idles if necessary. And is there a formula for sizing throttle bodies? Can you have too much TB?
Great video! I just picked up a wrecked Chev 2wd L59 5.3 and this is my first vehicle that will run on E85 so im trying to figure out a good combo while its at the frame shop, then im gonna finish up the paint and she'll be ready.
I have the powermax plus in a 2000 ext Silverado with an LS1 and I really like it. I had a tsp s2 truck and it was lazy in comparison. The 4L60 lasted 8 days after I installed it. For comparison, the tsp was in for 5k miles.
How would the ls6 power max lus cam work with a lsa blower? I know its not made for a blower. But i think it should work pretty good. As is. I really want to keep it with my upcoming lsa build.
what would have happened if you took the "truck torque cam" and ground another one with say 112 lsa. Wouldn't it put thee peak lower in the rpm? there by getting the stock converter and rear gear closer to optimum? I would tend to think the truck would respond better.
If you're using a Holley they should have base calibrations. If you're looking for HP Tuners based calibrations, I believe the guys at sloppy mechanics have a solid library of base cals that can get you started.
That's a good cam and intake comparison! Sure like the middle cam for my 6.0 2500 2 wheel dr tow truck! I was wondering how much torque and horsepower it would gain and get that dod delete off I would have a real truck then!
Oh, we must not have been clear enough in a description somewhere but the Hot Truck Torque cam was with the TBSS intake. We kept the TBSS intake on there through all the other cams and then switch back to the stock intake to see how much it lost which was a drop in ~25hp and 25tq. Sequence was: All stock 1) TBSS Intake only 2) Hot Truck Torque/TBSS 3) LS6 Power Max/TBSS 4) LS6 Power Max Plus/TBSS 5) LS6 Power Max Plus/Stock intake
Just bought this(because of this video) 204/222,going in a tahoe,waiting on machine shop bore 5.3 to 5.7,going stock 862 heads.Anyone do this combo?Anything close?
Dur: 220 int 222 exh, Lift: 0.570" int 0.570" exh, LSA 112(+2) The dip is just something that exists on LS intake design. The way it was explained to me is that some dynos just seem to show it more than others.
@@Sdpartscenter ah ok, so someone like me who would dyno tune it with a wideband and some premium fuel and mess with timing could expect a little more power numbers and possibly smooth out the curves.
Idk.. but in my 98 WS6 t56 4.10s.. i went from my LS6 top end making SAE (not STD) on dynojet 392whp & 387wtq. I ported my 243s while they were off and swapped the 02-04 LS6 cam for the sdpc LS6 max plus cam.. feels like an extra 50whp. Haven't retuned it yet. Have just the ole fast 78mm intake with all the goodies
1. Need a graph of, Ignition Timing. 2. Need graph of, Fuel Cruve. OR Factory Computer set up for this Engine/cam combination. These parts are paper weights, WITHOUT the fuel curve maps & ignition timing map.
Fuel curve and timing is going to be different over the range of vehicles and combinations the customers might be using. We used a Holley Dominator as it simplifies our setups on the engine dyno with the various harness needs. Base calibrations on a factory pcm just isn't in the best interest for us, or the customer since we don't perform tuning services. These aren't wild camshaft combos, any competent tuner should be able to get their base map for these ironed out with their eyes closed.
The TBSS was about 10 hp & 13 torque better LS6 on an engine dyno per the engine used in the Hot Rod article linked in this LS1Tech thread below: ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/1845169-ls6-vs-tbss-intake.html#post19397715
You said the power max plus wasn’t recommended for a 4wd or a heavier pickup What is the training for that? What about a 3200 lbs 4wd with all upgraded drive train and deep gears 5.38’s Also how do y’all think the power max plus would do with changing the LSA to 109-110
358 hp 359 - 389 SD 350 401 hp 99 - 06 manifold LS 6 power max 433 torque 422 hp 70 over stock Yankton SD mental hospital 204-222 430HP 220-222 exh 449 HP
Looking for camshaft option for my 2007 LY5. Driveability being the main factor as woul dbe my daily driver. Only mods I have so far is headers, tune and intake. Would the 205/210 work for me?
With the bigger cam you’re going to lose some low and torque so with the extra weight of the drivetrain and most likely bigger tires of a four-wheel-drive you would feel it more. If you use your truck like a truck baby cams are the way to go.
These were 42lb injectors, more than what was necessary for the run, but 28lb/hr is the bare minimum starting with the powermax plus cam unless you're running E85 then you might consider something higher.
i watched this video with the 5.3 cam swaps i like the max plus outcome but you never gave all the details about that cam in lift and duration . i putting together a 87 s10 5.3 with turbo 400 3500 stall and 373 gear would you recommend the plus for this build . Thanks any info will be much appreciated thanks again Brian
Hi Brian, Cam specs are in the link here: sdparts.com/i-24138755-sdpc-ls6-power-max-plus-camshaft-upgrade-for-5-7l-6-0l-6-2l.html As far as if it is a good option for your build, it could be, depends on what you plan to do with the S10 if it is strictly strip duty, or street with a little drag racing here and there. I can get some better info from our guys on Monday.
got a question for u my brother....i got 1990 k5 blazer 5.7 just got the enging rebuild still have the swirl port heads on it and its pretty mush stock i have high perfomace intake im eliminating the computing trying to make my mine up if im going to go with a carb or some efi sniper..i have 700r4 trans and 4.10 gears and up graded my torque convert to a 2000 to 2400 stall ..it has a up grade cam in it howard cams ratter 188005-09 lift .525/530 and duration .050 ; 227/235 centerline 103 i want to no is that a good cam to go with them swirl port heads and would i be able to hear the cam..i dont no to mush about cams..i no the vortec or aluminum heads would have been better but the engine was already build already..i do have headers 3 inche pipes all the way back
This video is great! Great content and info!! I really like the drivability aspect! I got a LM7 from an 03 tahoe, and really like the power max cam. Does that require a higher stall tc?? Thanks for the video! New subscriber here!
Excellent video guys, I have built and help build several 5.3 combos, for the money the tbss intake sure seems to be worth it! I’m about to put a fast intake on my 370 cubic inch ls swapped bmw, I’m on a Ls1 throttle body and ls6 intake, so I know there will be a good difference
Yes, it should have enough vacuum for power brakes. If you are doing aftermarket brakes make sure your master and pedal to pivot ratio is properly spec'd to your brake system. It can make a world of difference in pedal feel.
Finally, a NO BS camshaft video.
Amazing! A NO B.S. actual comparison between not only CAMS, but with a couple of INTAKES.... All before your eyes ON THE DYNO, by a gent that loves getting up in the morning...lol!
THIS is how they should be done, KUDO'S to the crew at S.D.! Earned my sub! Thank you, Seth
@@luisavelar9883 No doubt!
Best thing ever going back to the old intake. Thanks a ton.
The NNBS/TBSS intake still is fine... I wouldn't swap back if you have already done it. It was virtually the same as the old style intake. But like he said. If you plan on camming you will see gains from the NNBS or TBSS intake.
You will lose some power due to intake velocity since the 706 heads are smaller.
@@taylormade4049 It's been dyno tested and it loses nothing on a stock cam LM7 but it doesn't gain anything either.
@@joemeyers1016 yeah richard holdner has a million videos on stuff like this
This is exactly the info I need . I will be calling you guys when I get this motor pulled. Thanks for the video and great info
Just ordered my SD0053. Excited to get this engine built this winter when It’s cold and snowy out. Thanks guys!
I have a LS2 crate engine with LS3 CNC ported heads that was purchased in 2008 from SDPC it has a single plane intake a Holley 850 hp carberator and 1 7/8 longtube headers it has a hydraulic roller cam that the SDPC tech recommend it has duration in the upper middle 230s and 600 lift in my 1984 Monte Carlo SS it's still in the car runs as good or better than when first installed 13 years ago I've had many performance engines through out my life none have been as reliable or have performed close to this engine this engine cruises good from idle to 3000rpm from 3000rpm to 7200rpm it is a absolute beast these tech guys at SDPC are in my opinion the absolute best these guys know what they are doing and they would be my #1 choice if needing LS performance parts or crate engines I've been more than happy with the engine they sold me for 13 years now they are highly recommend by me another thing l noticed with this engine is there doesn't seem to be a tapering or a dramatic falloff of power or struggling between 6000rpm to 7200rpm it pulls hard and revs fast to the 7200rpm rev limiter with absolutely no power falloff every old style small block I've ever had even with a solid cam seem to struggle or the power fell off sharply above 6000rpm this LS engine absolutely does not
Now procharge it and you won’t believe the power
I know you bud! You used to ride along with me on some Mexico runs back in the day! Glad your still in the ls scene. This is TonyLs2.
Thanks dude, how are things?
Ironic. I just received a re grind, and I have never heard of you guys before. It's actually really close to the last cam you used. Interesting to find out. Thanks, great video.
Been driving a couple months now with the ls6 max plus cam and loving it! Still haven't re-tuned. No drivability issues yet. Hunts idle in FL cold weather (40s outside) after warmed up and restart after going to store etc but smoothens back out. Car is 98 ws6 t56 4.10s, 243 heads, z06 ls6 cam, fast 78mm intake and all the bolt ons and tune. Made low 390s and 386wtq on dynojet. With max plus cam swap, I ported my 243s. I def broke 400whp mark! Again, haven't retuned. Still tuned with z06 ls6 top end. Again, max plus is a great mid level cam for a DD with a nice chop in idle!
And that's why we do business with you guys. You shoot it straight!
Great video. Great display of data. Thank you. At stock the intake doesnt seem to make a huge different. The TBSS shows it colors with the cam upgrade. .
I have the hot truck cam in my truck and love it!! Good power and torque for pulling my car trailer.
Good work guys. The old LM7/LR4 heads, the 706 and 862 castings have always been overlooked and regarded as junk because they don't make a giant number on the flow bench. Most folks don't understand head flow dynamics and just listen to their buddies or advertisements and choose the biggest number they can get their hands on. Velocity and overall port design is far more important than flow rate at .700" Those early heads, 706/862 design work pretty good on a 6.0, a co-worker used a set on a 6.0 on an old pickup with a 220 degree cam and LM7 intake and the torque spread is fantastic. Pulls really good in the low and middle, torque you can actually feel mashing us into the seat and it still doesn't feel choked off in upper rpm range
Thanks for doing this video. I will be doing a similar build as tested here. Putting a fresh 5.3 LM7 in my 2000 GMC Yukon 5.3 4wd. Going to do the LS6 powermax cam with TBSS intake/92mm tb, Circle D 300mm converter, 1 3/4" LT headers into stock cat back. It's currently running a 2002 flex fuel OS and flex sensor, so it will be drinking 2.49 a gallon E85 instead of 4.00 premium. It's not a daily, I just use it to pull my fishing boat and occasional trips where I need more room.
Just wanted to update. So we did a stock baseline on my Yukon with E fans and E85 it made 239whp/269wtq on a Mustang dyno in 2nd gear. With the upgrades I mentioned above, power jumped to 321whp/313wtq. So we picked up 82whp/44wtq through the Circle D 2800 stall. The Circle D converter is still really tight. It only shows about 150rpm of slip up top, so likely not costing very much power up top and it actually acts like a 2500 stall in the Yukon. Drives similar to a 2500HD truck. It still has great low speed torque and much stronger pull through the midrange and up top. Power peaks at 5900rpm and holds flat to 6400rpm if you want to rev it out that far.
Great job on this comparison from my home town peeps. I bought two of the 0053 cams . One is in a 6.0 LQ4 with the TBSS intake and 706 5.3 heads. I’m considering stepping up to the next level but it’s in a 72 one ton dually and I don’t want to lose drivability! I’m probably gonna try it but this one I buy in person with a trip back to my home town!
Any dyno #s for the hot truck tq cam? I was looking at the ht1 cam for my lq9 with 243 or 823 head build for my 04 Tahoe after already buying the ls6 max cam for my ls6 top end ws6. But went with the bigger max plus cam. So now I have the ls6 max cam laying around, should be interesting to see final outcome. I think I'm going to run the 823 heads for my truck (since will locwer comp ratio) and factory l92 intake mani vs the 243s thst I hand ported. Not looking for max effort. Just nice lil mild cam. Tho the ls6 max plus is deceiving. Feels much bigger than you'd expect. Hence the 88hp and 40tq gains on a 5.3 coming close to 450hp. Which Holdner's 5.3 factory cam shootout, the LS6 cam was just under 410hp with factory lm7 intake. Tbss might have help to make 420hp. The factory ls7 cam made 422hp/395tq and peaking at 6300 rpms just like these SDPC LS6 cams. And the Ls7 cam is like a "cheater" cam from the factory with 211/230 duration. I haven't gotten a chance to retune and dyno my 98 ws6 since I ported the 243s and swappes the factory Z06 LS6 cam with SDPC LS6 Power Max Plus cam. But my old #s were 392whp/386wtq on a dynojet. Porting my 243s alone would push me over 400whp. But I think factory LS6 cam vs. SDPC LS6 power max plus cam is good for 25whp. But the new 6L gen3 crate that GMPP has out comes with rect port heads and the 02-04 LS6 cam and is rated at 452hp flywheel. It is a remanned lq9 shortblock being its flattop piston's. So with the SDPC LS6 power max cam would be closer to 480hp flywheel. I'd be very happy if I hit 400whp in my truck. So that is why I'm very interested in what you made with truck cam.
Do you have any dyno runs on the " tow power plus" cam that you also sell the 202 / 207 ? would like to see how that cam compares to the stock lm7 cam and the hot truck torque 205 / 210 cam ?
I just received my pro max plus in the mail. I can’t wait to put it in the motor. Thanks for a great in depth video. It’s not easy to go to performance shop and ask 1000 questions about the cams I was considering. This cam is exactly what I was looking for. I have a mild build going on for my 94 mustang. I’m putting the cam in a l33. Thanks again
Make sure to post the dyno with wheel hp numbers
I figured they would be expensive and msrp on their site is 400 but they are on sale for like $238 so real good price
The only thing I see is in the last dyno pull showing the NNBS/TBSS intake on the pull. I can see the thick cast/join line clearly across the intake, that is not found on the old style 99-06 intake. So that confuses me...What I was watching? Or am I going crazy? The intake that I see at 16:27 is the NNBS intake.
Great video. Thanks for explaining every swap without making my eyes glaze over, usually I get lost. Good shite…
Great video guys ! The Scoggin-Dickey Performance Posse , the boys from Lubbock Texas
if you don't have 35K to through at an engine, this info. is helpful. The stock engine (358 HP) in a light car, would be a good start for a bracket car. A set of custom race headers may be worth, as much as, 20 HP. Cool video. Thanks for posting.
Good test. I like the low rpm start all the way up to 6500!
This video is 🔥 great info, well presented and amazing attitude!!
Just now seeing this, but as a Jeep with a 5.3 LM7 swap this was super helpful. Been considering a cam and TBSS intake for my next motor.
just ordered my cam , waiting on yall to ship it to me lol , paid a week ago
how you animate the dyno graphs and recap each result and also how you mapped out all three cam results on on still frame with icons and descriptions talking about good supporting mods and best use scenario is great. Ive never seen that. Also how you did a final definitive test in the intake and TB gains swapping back to stock intake to see the HP and TQ from the trailblazer SD intake. 👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the kind words! It was fun putting the video together.
Would love to see how the z+ cam compares. I just put one in my ls1 project.
Would have like to have seen what constitutes too much cam. Kind of expensive to keep upping the lift until you find the limit on your own. And it must be somewhat subjective. Some are willing to run higher idles if necessary. And is there a formula for sizing throttle bodies? Can you have too much TB?
I managed to get my hands on an aluminum block envoy XUV engine. I was stoked
I have one too from a trailblazer. Getting it ready for my S10😎
@@redhackershittycoder funny you say that becuz mine is an S10 blazer Xtreme😂
Great video! I just picked up a wrecked Chev 2wd L59 5.3 and this is my first vehicle that will run on E85 so im trying to figure out a good combo while its at the frame shop, then im gonna finish up the paint and she'll be ready.
Please do a video like this on the 6.2
I want more out of my silverado but nervous about doing anything
It's an LS.. It can take abuse! Go for it
@@Over_Taxed_USA 😂😂😂😂not sure what you’re smoking but it must be good
I own a 6.2 my neighbor owns a new 5.0 and I kill him everytime we race
Love the video. Hope to see more from yal.
The torque curve between 3k and 4k has a pretty decent drop. Why?
You guys doing anything for the LS4 5.3L engines?
Not at this time. Check out Furches Performance though, he has been doing LS4 kits for awhile now.
www.LS4king.com
Great video! I have your 205/210 cam for my 5.3 suburban (tuned, cai, dt tri-y longtubes).
More information.
Does it run smoothly?🤔
What M.P.G.
1. PULL A BASS BOAT ?🤔
2. PULL A SKI BOAT ?🤔
3. PULL A TRAVEL TRAILER ?🤔
How do you like the cam?
Cool vid , best part was swapping back to original intake
08:03 whats up with that dip in TQ from 3000-3500??
I want to see the numbers on a 6.0 lq4 with 706 heads the LS6 power max plus cam
Great video!
Just for curiosity how much power do you think it takes to run the accessories?
Thanks Scott
I have the powermax plus in a 2000 ext Silverado with an LS1 and I really like it. I had a tsp s2 truck and it was lazy in comparison. The 4L60 lasted 8 days after I installed it. For comparison, the tsp was in for 5k miles.
Great video! Awesome job.
One variable is missing here, stock truck manifolds with stock style cats.
When will the ls6 cam plus b back in stoc
How would the ls6 power max lus cam work with a lsa blower? I know its not made for a blower. But i think it should work pretty good. As is. I really want to keep it with my upcoming lsa build.
Your doing a great job. Look forward to the next one.
Ive always wanted a 6.0 but maybe i should consider a 5.3 with a cam upgrade. Idk its still 325 cubic inches. I like bigger motors like 364 cubic inch
Great video using GM parts..well except for the Pac valve springs,but this is close enough..helped me a lot !
We need you to do this shootout with lq4 ly6 6.0 liter ls
Not me with a 23x/23x .6xx/.6xx lift camshaft in my 5.3 😂 very good video!
what would have happened if you took the "truck torque cam" and ground another one with say 112 lsa. Wouldn't it put thee peak lower in the rpm? there by getting the stock converter and rear gear closer to optimum? I would tend to think the truck would respond better.
I would really like to pick up the power Max cam, can somebody provide me a link?
Yup, it's in the description but here's the link!
sdparts.com/i-24132276
I wonder if they adjust the Tune each time or if they just slap the parts on and just floor it to see the Dyno results
Is there anywhere that these tunes might be available for use as base tunes for different applications?
If you're using a Holley they should have base calibrations. If you're looking for HP Tuners based calibrations, I believe the guys at sloppy mechanics have a solid library of base cals that can get you started.
Awesome Research and development
That's a good cam and intake comparison! Sure like the middle cam for my 6.0 2500 2 wheel dr tow truck! I was wondering how much torque and horsepower it would gain and get that dod delete off I would have a real truck then!
I know you can’t test everything but I would’ve liked to see the trailblazer intake with the smallest of the upgraded cams.
Oh, we must not have been clear enough in a description somewhere but the Hot Truck Torque cam was with the TBSS intake. We kept the TBSS intake on there through all the other cams and then switch back to the stock intake to see how much it lost which was a drop in ~25hp and 25tq.
Sequence was:
All stock
1) TBSS Intake only
2) Hot Truck Torque/TBSS
3) LS6 Power Max/TBSS
4) LS6 Power Max Plus/TBSS
5) LS6 Power Max Plus/Stock intake
Just bought this(because of this video) 204/222,going in a tahoe,waiting on machine shop bore 5.3 to 5.7,going stock 862 heads.Anyone do this combo?Anything close?
Live this I want to upgrade my cam on my gen 5 5.3 and like to know what works.
Will the 205/210 cam work on a 4.8L if so can I leave everything else on the engine stock ?
You can run it in a 4.8, but it is on the very limit of what a stock converter can handle. everything else can be stock.
I was thinking the same thing..my 07' GMC Sierra 1500 has the 4.8L and came with the 243 heads stock..wanting to experiment a little.
Nice video my friend: the best of the best
Do you need to change to push rods on the sd0053
Would love to see what the difference on dyno between ls6 max plus vs z+221 cam. Do you have a dyno reading for the z+221 cam?
Thanks
Didn’t see a spec on lift for ls6 power max plus also what’s the dip in torque from 3100-3500?
Dur: 220 int 222 exh, Lift: 0.570" int 0.570" exh, LSA 112(+2)
The dip is just something that exists on LS intake design. The way it was explained to me is that some dynos just seem to show it more than others.
Why did the torque go flat and even dip between 3000 - 3700 RPM? That to me looks like it could be tuning related.
We didn't do any timing adjustments, just the base pump gas calibration and kept it that way for each cam.
@@Sdpartscenter ah ok, so someone like me who would dyno tune it with a wideband and some premium fuel and mess with timing could expect a little more power numbers and possibly smooth out the curves.
Great video, I wonder how that super max cam will do and sound on a stroked 5.3 to 363cc?
I'd like to see the LS6 PM Plus cam in a 6.0 L.. I bet that might get close to 475 at the crank..
Idk.. but in my 98 WS6 t56 4.10s.. i went from my LS6 top end making SAE (not STD) on dynojet 392whp & 387wtq. I ported my 243s while they were off and swapped the 02-04 LS6 cam for the sdpc LS6 max plus cam.. feels like an extra 50whp. Haven't retuned it yet. Have just the ole fast 78mm intake with all the goodies
@@charliecadaver666 Nice.. the PM Plus is a bit hotter for sure.
Question where can i buy aftermarket parts like cams superchargers all that good stuff?
Could I use the Max Plus cam in a 2006 GMC Sierra Denali all wheel drive with a 6.0 engine?
1. Need a graph of, Ignition Timing.
2. Need graph of, Fuel Cruve.
OR
Factory Computer set up for this Engine/cam combination.
These parts are paper weights, WITHOUT the fuel curve maps & ignition timing map.
Fuel curve and timing is going to be different over the range of vehicles and combinations the customers might be using. We used a Holley Dominator as it simplifies our setups on the engine dyno with the various harness needs.
Base calibrations on a factory pcm just isn't in the best interest for us, or the customer since we don't perform tuning services. These aren't wild camshaft combos, any competent tuner should be able to get their base map for these ironed out with their eyes closed.
Would the LS6 springs be OK to run with the PowerMax PLUS cam?
Yes, those will be fine to run with the powermax plus.
@@Sdpartscenter would there be less chance of breakage or any other benefit with the 1218/1219 springs?
Good stuff
what's the part number on the VALVE SPRING
Pac1218, looks like we mentioned it but didn't link to it. Sorry bout that!
sdparts.com/i-24140272
Great video. Thanks 👍👍
What would it make with a ls6 intake manifold
The TBSS was about 10 hp & 13 torque better LS6 on an engine dyno per the engine used in the Hot Rod article linked in this LS1Tech thread below:
ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/1845169-ls6-vs-tbss-intake.html#post19397715
You said the power max plus wasn’t recommended for a 4wd or a heavier pickup What is the training for that? What about a 3200 lbs 4wd with all upgraded drive train and deep gears 5.38’s
Also how do y’all think the power max plus would do with changing the LSA to 109-110
I just ordered your power max plus but im curious as in to how well its going to work with a 5 speed.
Should work perfectly fine!
I can’t find that 220/222 cam for sale
Link is in the description above, but here ya go!
sdparts.com/i-24138755-sdpc-ls6-power-max-plus-camshaft-upgrade-for-5-7l-6-0l-6-2l.html
How do the cams fit a 5.3 if the description says for 5.7
Design is relatively the same, it was originally targeted for use in the LS1 and LS6, but works exceptionally well in a 5.3.
Great video!
Thanks!
Just found your videos,lots of good information, what about a 6.0 cam
Just ordered this and springs today
358 hp 359 - 389 SD 350 401 hp
99 - 06 manifold LS 6 power max
433 torque 422 hp 70 over stock
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204-222 430HP
220-222 exh 449 HP
I'm putting together a 86 Buick regal w/ 5.3 swap and a 3000 converter w/ 373 gears. For Strip/Street what cam would you recommend and why.
Sounds like the open ended questions on tests, only thing you left out was asking them to show their work 😂
Great vid ,,What would be a good overall cam across the board for a 5.3 swap in a IROC with stock converter ?
The Hot Truck Torque would work fine. The LS6 Powermax might as well since it's in a car and not a truck.
@@Sdpartscenter ,,What would be the HP gains with the 2
Looking for camshaft option for my 2007 LY5. Driveability being the main factor as woul dbe my daily driver. Only mods I have so far is headers, tune and intake. Would the 205/210 work for me?
That cam is designed for exactly what you want. You will need these:
sdparts.com/i-20089467
sdparts.com/i-22747975
What's it do with a carb?
Wonder if anyone noticed how the huge split cam picked up impressive power but then the close split was more like “meh”
Why would you recommend that the bigger cam not be used in a 4wheel drive?
With the bigger cam you’re going to lose some low and torque so with the extra weight of the drivetrain and most likely bigger tires of a four-wheel-drive you would feel it more. If you use your truck like a truck baby cams are the way to go.
What size injectors you running?
These were 42lb injectors, more than what was necessary for the run, but 28lb/hr is the bare minimum starting with the powermax plus cam unless you're running E85 then you might consider something higher.
i watched this video with the 5.3 cam swaps i like the max plus outcome but you never gave all the details about that cam in lift and duration . i putting together a 87 s10 5.3 with turbo 400 3500 stall and 373 gear would you recommend the plus for this build . Thanks any info will be much appreciated thanks again Brian
Hi Brian,
Cam specs are in the link here:
sdparts.com/i-24138755-sdpc-ls6-power-max-plus-camshaft-upgrade-for-5-7l-6-0l-6-2l.html
As far as if it is a good option for your build, it could be, depends on what you plan to do with the S10 if it is strictly strip duty, or street with a little drag racing here and there. I can get some better info from our guys on Monday.
Will the last cam work on my 99 4.8 vortec I gotta have that touch sound if not which one would u recommend?
got a question for u my brother....i got 1990 k5 blazer 5.7 just got the enging rebuild still have the swirl port heads on it and its pretty mush stock i have high perfomace intake im eliminating the computing trying to make my mine up if im going to go with a carb or some efi sniper..i have 700r4 trans and 4.10 gears and up graded my torque convert to a 2000 to 2400 stall ..it has a up grade cam in it howard cams ratter 188005-09 lift .525/530 and duration .050 ; 227/235 centerline 103 i want to no is that a good cam to go with them swirl port heads and would i be able to hear the cam..i dont no to mush about cams..i no the vortec or aluminum heads would have been better but the engine was already build already..i do have headers 3 inche pipes all the way back
Will there be a video for the sdpc ls9 plus cam with a of blower?
We'd love to get a chance to do it, the engine dyno right now is occupied full time for the next few months with customer orders.
This video is great! Great content and info!! I really like the drivability aspect! I got a LM7 from an 03 tahoe, and really like the power max cam. Does that require a higher stall tc?? Thanks for the video! New subscriber here!
2000-2200 rpm.
Nick breaks it down a bit more on components towards the end @18:28
Will I need a tune if I put this in a 4.8? I will be ordering a converter to match this cam as well.
Yes, you'll need a proper tune.
How about a cam with a tighter LSA? Say 108-109
Excellent video guys, I have built and help build several 5.3 combos, for the money the tbss intake sure seems to be worth it! I’m about to put a fast intake on my 370 cubic inch ls swapped bmw, I’m on a Ls1 throttle body and ls6 intake, so I know there will be a good difference
Supposedly the Doman LS2 intake provides nearly identical numbers to the TBSS intake in case you ever need another option.
@@natemoothart6967 price jumped to 900 dollars for those.
@@metalmanipulations7137 Jesus lmao they were like 1/4 of that price🤣
What a tremendous video!
Did you tune the engine between cams?
Yes we did
Does the LS6 Powermax PLUS cam have enough vacuum for power brakes?
Yes, it should have enough vacuum for power brakes. If you are doing aftermarket brakes make sure your master and pedal to pivot ratio is properly spec'd to your brake system. It can make a world of difference in pedal feel.
Would it work for a 5.3 L33?
Yes it will!