Pete Cater's guide to Big Band Drumming. Part 3: timekeeping, fills and solos

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  • In a new series for Rhythm Magazine, UK Big Band drummer Pete Cater presents everything you need to know to become an authentic Big Band drummer.
    Pete covers everything from the history of the genre and key players like Buddy Rich, 'Papa' Jo Jones and Gene Krupa, to the quintessential Big Band drum sound and key techniques every drummer should know.
    In part 3, Pete talks through more essential techniques required to play with a Big Band, looking specifically at timekeeping, fills and solos.
    For the full feature you can pick up the new issue from bit.ly/rhythmlatestissue or take advantage of our print, digital and print/digital bundle subscription offers at bit.ly/rhythmsubscription
    Videos shot at Bell Studios: www.bellstudios.co.uk/
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  • @allardbuising32
    @allardbuising32 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    One of the greatest tips I ever got as a drummer from a conducter was that a single hit on a snare before an accent in the blowersection is also a build up. Especially in fast charts one might tend to play the same fill as one would in a medium tempo tune. The effect you might get is, that the tune will slow down because the amount of notes being played by the drummer will push forward the designated accent. As said by you, you are in a large ensemble and not on your own.

  • @DanLoFat
    @DanLoFat 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The sick part is, even when you overplayed the fills, I could still feel the time and come in confident!

  • @kennetheveritt7450
    @kennetheveritt7450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Pete myself revisited this again, love big band,its finding the timing to get the hits.
    Great work of explaining the technique.

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Ken. Hope you are well.

  • @drummad7268
    @drummad7268 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All four parts to this insightful instruction lesson would make a great DVD. Where's DCI when you need them? Absolutely brilliant Pete. Bravo.

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Drummad72 I've got years and years of methods and concepts, probably enough to fill 50 DVDs. Thanks for your positive comments.

  • @drumcentral
    @drumcentral 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent series Pete Cater. Very useful indeed.

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drum Central Thanks very much.

  • @Blastfence1
    @Blastfence1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent!

  • @franquitonavarro901
    @franquitonavarro901 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your videos are a great introduction to big band drumming for me, thank you!

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Franco Navarro Thanks Franco. Glad you like the stuff.

  • @jimbarcelona1078
    @jimbarcelona1078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much Pete this is exactly what I was looking for ,most excellent!

  • @graduator14
    @graduator14 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love big band! So glad you're doing this!

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      graduator14 So do I and I'm glad too!

  • @richppreston
    @richppreston 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoyed this series, thank you!

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Richard Preston Pleasure. Glad to hear it.

  • @robertstrobel7237
    @robertstrobel7237 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes.

  • @SP35640SNAKE
    @SP35640SNAKE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Extremely helpful to someone new to big band jazz drumming. My band director laughed at me when I just played what was written on the chart lol

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sean P yeah, knowing how to interpret what's on the chart is a big part of the deal. Listen to the legendary masters, imitate and then innovate.

  • @jimbarcelona1078
    @jimbarcelona1078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Checked out entire 1 thru 4, thanks so much again!

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome, thank you too.

  • @georgewillo4230
    @georgewillo4230 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    NICE ONE PETE, BRILLIANT MATE.

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      George Willo Hey George, thanks man!

  • @heloworld1000
    @heloworld1000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awsome

  • @Neverokful
    @Neverokful 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great playing and advice and I did rather like your busier fills to be honest haha. They sounded great!

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neverokful Haha, thanks. I liked them too, and I did strive to make them accurate.

  • @GregLikesJelly
    @GregLikesJelly 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Big Swing Face? I recognize that beat

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      GregLikesJelly Haha! Well spotted!

  • @PeteCaterdrums
    @PeteCaterdrums 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My two hour DVD is now available covering technique, rhythm section duties, brushes, big band playing and improvisation. Details here.... petecater.org/store/

  • @j.acedrums
    @j.acedrums 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for everything you teach in these videos, I've progressed greatly as a percussionist thanks to you. I've been looking into upgrading my cymbals (I've got a set of Zildjian ZBT) And while most jazz drummers settle on the darkest cymbals they can find, you mainly play Zildjian A's, and they fit quite nicely. Could I know what model those are?

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much for your comments, sincerely appreciated and I'm delighted you have benefited from the content. I chop and change my cymbals frequently according to the demands of the music. For mainstream big band playing I'm still using this exact same set of cymbals. As a rule I go for K rides and A crashes. I prefer brighter hi hats though will occasionally use a pair of 15" Keropes. My favourite hi hats in a small band setting are an old pair of 13" A Custom Mastersound believe it or not. These days mu go to ride in smaller groups is a 22" Kerope with a chain. It weighs about 2250 gms and is just the greatest.

  • @billvinett341
    @billvinett341 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these, Pete. Thanks so much. I've had a very hard time locating back issues for these four (March, April, May and June 2015?) Can you suggest where to look? Or might there be PDFs I can purchase? I'd love to have the sheet music that you describe. Thanks.

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bill Vinett I'm unsure if back issues are available. Send me a private message Bill and I might be able to fix something up.

  • @jimryan1735
    @jimryan1735 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video, Pete. Do you tune your drums starting with the BD? Then use intervals for the toms? (3rds, 5ths etc?)

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jim Ryan yes I do, always listening for good relative pitch across the drums. I often tune the toms higher for small group stuff but bass drum is always way down.

  • @tykeller5946
    @tykeller5946 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:37

  • @PeteCaterdrums
    @PeteCaterdrums 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My new book, Stickings, Dexterity and Orchestration is exclusively available from www.petecater.org/store

  • @Lightseeber
    @Lightseeber 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the snare head used in this video? It’s awesome!

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Remo Renaissance Ambassador.

  • @brianbrooks6349
    @brianbrooks6349 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Pete just retired a few months ago getting back at the drums love big band the most start to practice reading charts again with a teacher question do you use your bass drum on all 4 beats i do find it easier to count that way when you play are you counting in your head if so how are you doing it? Example 1234 /2234/3234/4234 ect or count in triplets

    • @PeteCaterdrums
      @PeteCaterdrums ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Brian, thanks for the question. I do tend to 'feather' the bass drum 4 in a bar, unless it's a particularly contemporary type of chart when that doesn't feel like the right thing to do. I don't consciously count at all except for when a piece of music has especially unusual structure, such as phrase lengths with atypical numbers of bars.

    • @brianbrooks6349
      @brianbrooks6349 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PeteCaterdrums Thank you Pete i do find once i have the chart memorized i can do it by feel and also my relaced

    • @brianbrooks6349
      @brianbrooks6349 ปีที่แล้ว

      Relaxed

  • @Jimmythedrumteacher
    @Jimmythedrumteacher 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brill.

  • @PeteCaterdrums
    @PeteCaterdrums 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    My crowdfunding campaign to produce a technique and concepts dvd can be found here www.indiegogo.com/projects/pete-cater-drum-instruction-dvd-music-jazz/x/15946557#/backers

  • @jimryan1735
    @jimryan1735 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also, I like the fact that you don't use felts on top of your ride, crashes and splash.

  • @bluesky6449
    @bluesky6449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an angry/serious face for such a well known drummer. Try smiling when on film :)
    Clapping and sticks hitting is way too loud for the video in such an open resonant room as well.

  • @PeteCaterdrums
    @PeteCaterdrums 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    All sorts of exciting live performances coming up. Visit www.petecater.org/events for more information.