Hi everyone. You have no idea how happy I am that I finally finished this video! I'm watching and crying). This is quite a complex topic for a video, so if you liked it, don't forget to give it a like. Enjoy the video!
I love the detail that Khorasan became Muslim faster than Fars. You should keep in mind that Zoroastrianism was still relevant in the 11-12th centuries in Iran.
This is speculative since there is not enough evidence. Some people say Zarathushtra himself was alive arround 600BC so if there is something before its not Zoroastrianism, you can say they shared some traditions that originated arroud 1500~2000BC but it was not Zoroastrianism since there is no Zaratustra, and if this is true they got incorporated or converted. Just like Ancient Egypt can be separated into shorter periods.
Ancient Persian fire worship is predecessor to Zoroastrianism not the religion itself. Like Second Temple Judaism is much different than Ancient Israelite Religion.
misconception/propaganda created by ottomans Iran was Shia since 850 ( Buyid Empire, Safarid empire ) all Shia dynasties and if you look at the Persian scholars (Al khwarizmi, jabir ibn hayan, Al biruni, ibn sina) they were all Shia
As an historian i see an error…the Egyptian tradition religion was eliminated in 542…by the emperor Giustiniano, when the last temples was closed in south Egypt
@Fredrick-The-Great it doesn't have to be. A jihad is any struggle. An internal struggle with disbelief would also be a jihad, but it's most commonly used in the same context as crusade.
@@karar_YT@ismailselmi4628 Druzism orgininated in rafidhism but they are not Muslims. Babists and bahaists are also rafidhis but they are not Muslims.
A historical fact - we don't see that there are Turks in all the maps, but we see that there were Armenians. Now the Turks are taking Armenian lands and killing them. We still haven't forgotten the Armenian genocide by the Turks.
I am an Iranian, and Islam is being eliminated in Iran, I don't know why, but Iranian people are no longer interested in Islam, do you know the reason?
5:07 Southern Iraq was indeed Shiite from the era of Mukhtar, and indeed most of the emirates in southern Iraq were Shiite, such as Bani Mazyad and the Emirate of Al-Bathaha.
3:30 as a historian, I'm always impressed by the work people put into videos like these, yet I am equally disappointed every time when I see people make the same mistake over and over again, that being that Islam quickly became the majority religion in Persia and the fertile crescent within the span of a single human lifetime, when that simply couldn't be further from the truth. It was a process that took centuries. With around 5% of the population being Muslim by the end of the Umayyad dynasty, 10-15% being Muslim around a century later, with Muslims only becoming a majority in the greater middle east at some point around the year 1000CE.
Alexander the Great actually had plans in mind to send an expeditionary force into Arabia, specifically the coastal areas and if the expeditionary force was successful, there's a good chance he would've decided to conquer those Arabian territories, but unluckily death decided to welcome him into its doorstep at just 32 years of age. If Alexander had lived for at least 15-20 more years and actually conquered Arabia. There's a big chance Islam might not even exist today because the population would've been too hellenised culturally and religiously for a monothesitic religion like Islam to sprout out. Its just mind blowing how many things could've been different if he had lived just a little longer. There will never be another like him. He truly is the Great.
The fact that if he conquered Arabia, chances are incredibly tiny that: 1- Hellenistic culture takes hold in Arabia more than it did in real life 2- In the very likely event of his kingdom’s dissolution there are no chances that any diadochi keeps control over Arabia Also: 3- Christianity, which for all intent and purposes is 95% similar to Islam compared to other religions, spread around a Latin and Hellenic pagan Mediterranean 4- Arabia at the time of prophet Muhammad was home to several Jewish and Christian tribes, the Christian Roman Empire and Abyssinia as well as Zoroastrian Persia did exert a heavy influence on those tribes. 5- If you want a scenario where Islam doesn’t exist, you need a scenario where Jesus and Christianity never emerged
@@nonamelenina1046 Not really. If you don't want Islam to emerge, just get rid of Muhammad. Even a 50 year halt between new religious movements would make the situation too difficult for any new force to conquer and replace like Islam did
@@nonamelenina1046 No wrong 5 is false, you don't need a scenario in which Christianity doesn't exist in order to have a scenario in which islam doesn't exist because simply islam came after Christianity ( this scenario was true for the years 30-600 approximately)
@@xsfsdsdhen1739 I disagree. Islam as we know it would have never emerged if Christianity never existed as Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet. Moreover if Christianity didn't become the dominant religion in the Roman Empire I doubt an Abrahamic religion like Islam would emerge in Arabia. At best that religion would be much closer to Hebrew rites
I am Yazidi from Shingal(Sinjar) we practise Yazidism and we have old Mesopotamian practices too and also mithrasim. But you did not include it after 12th century yazidism formed differently. Sad 😐
As a Turk/Greek Muslim, Zoroastrizm is much more older religion than whole Abrahamic religions (Jew, Christian, İslam) and should be respected as first monoteist belief. I love BC Persian culture so much ♥️
@@hugo3031 No they did not, the Middle East was thriving after the Islamic Conquests. Making new discoveries, science, technology, mathematics, inventions, Ever heard of the Islamic Golden Age? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
@@hugo3031 No, The Middle East was flourishing with new discoveries, science, math, and technology after Islam spread, Ever heard of the Islamic Golden Age? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
No from 1920 to 1930 and from 1970 to 1980. In 1922 Greek and Armenian Christians in modern day Turkey suffered genocides. And in 1974 Turkey illegally invaded Cyprus occypied half and then the Turkish-Cypriots who were and are Muslims moved to the North part
@@Ilovemarvelll Do you think Christians didnt do genocides to turks/muslims? In fact,the turks invaded cyprus bcs the Christians were doing massacres to the turks living in cyprus!
Knock knock it's the Assassins (The videos have English subtitles) Muslim crimes: th-cam.com/video/1AALZ0HIg40/w-d-xo.htmlsi=P7A_VMhdsjfgIJ4a The crimes of the fourth caliph Rashidun: th-cam.com/video/2MFRGTTaMA8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=SWqO45GfTLYczQz6
Its really strange, how did some nomads in the Arabian desert mange to take over these empires so easily. Its remarkable if you think about it. But also remember, Romans already ruined the whole region and made each and every coutry weak and easy to conquer.
Wahhabism is not Muslims and has nothing to do with Islam. It is a dissident religion from the Sunnis and was established from Britain by the English General Johnny Philip and Percy Cox. Wahhabism is Kharijites even they blaspheme all Muslims who are contrary to their ideology and worship a God who is sixty cubits long and wears cat fur A religion similar to Judaism-Christianity.... All Muslims are the Sunnah of Shafi'I, Ahaf and Malikiyah
Great video keep,up the great work I gave this one a like :) only mistake is saying Iran was majority Shia for the first 900 years of islam when that’s not the case it was majority Sunni and then became majority Shia under the Safavids in the 1500s and 1600s other than that great work.
I thing central asia was also buddhist specially during kushan empire it became the base of buddhism. Most greeks also followed buddhism in the region.
Is crazy to think how just one man, from the Arabian desert just change the geographical view on what we see on the middle east now, true words from God only can make results like that.
Shouldnt Christianity, be far more prevalent in Arabia by the rise of islam? I mean the Lakhmids, and Ghassanids were both Christian and ruled those regions for centuries and theres evidence that the Christian populations there resisted conversion for decades following the rise of Islam. As well as churches that have been excavated in the UAE and Bahrain, as well as sources indicate there was less-than insignificant populations of Christians in the region As well as there should be atleast a minority presence of the Church of the East in Central Asia (specifically modern Turkmenistan) as the Sassanids really enjoyed exiling Christians there under their less accepting Shahs.
How about the Yazidis who are an ancient ethno-religious group with roots that trace back thousands of years. Their faith, Yazidism, incorporates elements of pre-Islamic Mesopotamian religions, Zoroastrianism, Christianity, and Islam. Their religious traditions are believed to be at least several millennia old, dating back to ancient Mesopotamia.
3:05 You know, I would have assumed that there'll be a Jerusalemite Church for a while before being absorbed by the Syriac Church as East of the Major Churches but for the Church of the East and Armenian Church, corresponds to a patriachal bishopric, Copts to Alexandria, Syriacs to Antioch, Eastern Chalcedonians(Eastern Orthodox) to Constantinople and Western Chalcedonians(Catholic Church) to Rome. So it seems weird Jerusalem never had a phase of being its own Church. Nicene Christianity made it into Nubia earlier. In Nobatia, by 500 its King had converted and as for Alodia, by 340s it was conquered for a time by Aksum. Yeah, it would be further cemented with the Byzantine embasies of Justinian's era but it was well established before then. Similarly, Islam grows too fast(But you did capture exactly where Zoroastrianism retained dominance). Until the Umayyads Muslims proper were a minority, in part cus the Umayyads didn't want more converts and in parts cuz many took up the name but not the beliefs. Its with the Abbasids(starting even with the process of their rebellion) that the religion started to tip over 50% in large areas(only some cities scattered strategically around the empire would have already been majority muslim)
As an Iranic kurd Muslim, I can feel the anger and disappointment of our Zoroastrian ancestors, they are disappointed in modern Iranians because of converting to Islam, now I’m not saying anything bad about Islam, Islam is my religion and it is a religion of peace, but it’s early followers were ruined it all, yes I am a Sunni who is against early Muslim caliphs, they were nomads and didn’t know one thing: peace, they didn’t know that they could spread Islam PEACEFULLY in Sassanid Iran, an empire which let its people practice their religion peacefully, curse the early caliphs! Enforcing their religion and culture upon us! Unlike North Africa, we were strong enough to survive these policies.
The early Caliphs built an empire. They didn't force everyone to become Muslims, in fact they outright forbade most conversions and simply taxed everyone with jizya to maximise the sum of the state treasury
I read about zoroastrianism and was fascinated by how close it was to modern thinking. in it heaven/utopia is a country based on order and the purpose of life is to develop this country and to make yourself and others happy but not to make yourself happy at the expense of others. I always wonder how could we possibly go from that to what we had for the past 1400 years...
@Canopus-z-o They ruled *parts* of India for 500 yrs.(warlord periods). Prior to that halted Caliphate Invasion for 500+yrs, when Byzantine declined & Persia Turks fell under Izlem. They are properly educated.
3:27 Soundtrack plays feels like pilgrimes rushing towards the the kaaba shrine and great wise men giving sermons in mosques meanwhile empires expanding and fighting eachother it is was the Medieval Era in middle east.
Wahhabism and Sufism aren't different kinds of Islam. Wahhabism is a reformist religious movement, while Sufism is a mystical movement. Wahhabis are exclusively Sunnis, while Sufis can be either Sunnis or Shias.
@@iroquoianmapperYou aren't wrong, in fact there is no city with Zoroastrian majority in Iran. Today, with the increase of differences between the people and the Islamic Republic, some thought of changing their religion. However, there is no city with a Zoroastrian majority in Iran, and a society with a new religion has not been formed yet
@@Rockyrock511 None of these belong to Muslims, they are not achievements, basically what they did was to have the Orthodox Aramaic people translate Greek books and add some things to them, that's all, algebra emerged in Egypt long before Islam
Zoroastrianism started around 1500 to 1000 BCE in Afghanistan as the society of the Avesta is one of pre-literate pastorialists and barely familiar with metal. It did not start in Southern Iran.
Fools that are crying should know the face that Islam is the only religion that restored peace in mIddle east, from the bloodshed of Sassasinds, and Christains, they had made middle east a battle ground for thousand years, middle east only saw propensity and its golden age, under islamic rule.
because islam dont force people to accept it . depend upon a person to freely accept it if islam forces people to accept by sword everyone in india would be muslim then
Because of local resistance from maratha who almost conquered all of india. Rajputs sikhs ahoms also had an impact and south india was mostly ruled by hindu kings.
@@User_47536 what ? Source I study history that muslim invaders destroy 200k hindu temple just 600years Or they destroy 500+ ancient Universities Example:- nalanda University have 9Million books but muslim general baithiye Khilji destroy University or burn books 9Million just month's and killed students or teachers I don't think muslim really tolerate in India
The timeline is wrong given that the Arabian peninsula and Ethiopia mostly adhered to abrahamic religions by the fourth century such as Judaism, Christianity and hybrids.
I don't know if the pagans had "tensions" the way pagan vs monotheism, Abrahamic religions vs 1 another (Christian, Muslim, Jewish), or inter-Islamic tensions played out (Shia vs Sunni). Pagans often accepted each other's gods as just another change or addition to what they already worshipped, the names, lore, and specific forms of worship were relatively interchangeable, and the enemy "god" would be symbolically defeated and statues/shrines destroyed, but often worship was tolerated afterward conquest. In certain cases this changed, such as the Romans killing all druids, but in general, submit and your gods would be tolerated. In the pagan world, this happened all the time, from when Babylonians conquered Assyrians, Romans the Greeks, Persians the Egyptians, Greeks the Egyptians and Persians, ad infinitum. The Romans and Greeks also tolerated monotheism amongst the Jews unless it suggested defiance of Imperial rule, as with the Romans per Josephus' account of the legionary eagle in the Temple, or destruction of any statues of the Emperor in Jerusalem. One theory as to why pagans tolerated each other's gods might be that the worship was simply of forces of nature, and god names, concepts, and lore were all pretty flexible. Additionally, when the other gods were destroyed by a conquering force, it could be due to the national will of one "god over the other", like with Ashur, or Marduk, or Jupiter or Zeus vs the god of the Hebrews, etc.
Pagans did not always tolerate eachother. We know this from Roman history. The Romans generally didn't mind most religions but they actively hated the followers of Isis and it was made illegal at times. The religion of emperor Egalubus was also not liked. The greeks were not fond of Zoroastraianism or Judaism with the Selucids even Sacrificing pigs in the temple of God and forcing the Jews to worship Zeus. In the roman empire Sacrificing to the emperor's genus (a powerful spirit looking over the emperor) was mandatory in times of crisis. The Romans had no respect for the druids either or the gods of their mortal enemies carthage. In mesopotamia destroying the idols of foreign gods was a thing after defeating enemies.
I think the acceptance of other religions by the "pagans" of Greece and Rome compared to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is not due to 'pagan' gods being forces of nature, but due to Judaism believing in only 1 God, and treating all other gods as evil demons and forbidding the worship of other gods. Also an obsession on having the correct beliefs not just practices. This practice was common among the neighbours of the Jews too. These beliefs trickled down into the offshoots of the Jewish religion; Christianity and Islam. For the greeks and Romans they by and large believed every god was a real god or was simply a form of their own god. The Greeks and Romans often talk about gods like thoth and odin as being a form of hermes/mercury or of Yahwey or amun as being Zeus/Jupiter. They also had a practice of inviting the gods of their enemies to join the pantheon.
As Holland wrote in Dominion, sometimes the same God was understood to ensure relations and avoid wars based on religion differences, for example to Pompeii the Great it was basic that Zeus = Jupiter = Jahwe to make the Roman Republic work, it was what today many says "Allah and the Christian God is the same". Actually wrong, but politically correct.
Good video (like the accurate depiction of Circassia) but I don't understand: - Why Hejaz is shia in 640 - Why are Sufi orders a seperate sect while they were considered mainstream sunni for most of history (until the salafi/wahhabi influence spread)
the Qaramatians with their Leader Abu Tahir Al Janabi who sacked Mecca and massacre the Muslims in mecca. They plucked out the black stone and breaked it into piece. He torned Quran while reciting the verses where it says no non muslim will ever enter mecca and allah will send birds to protect it. He mocked the Islam.
Hoped to see Manicheanism on the list, and Early Islam categorized as something different (e.g. believers movement) from 690s onwards "Islam" because that would be more accurate historically. Good job though! 😇😉
I am Iranian Iranian people have forgotten superstitions and most of them are not Muslims anymore This can be understood from congregational prayer and women's hijab Despite the many propaganda of the Islamic government
@@iroquoianmapper In Europe, they (Christians) destroyed the legendary Roman and Greek cultures, replacing them with an alien culture and faith coming from the desert, something that doesn't even make sense, apart from all the deaths that this religion caused in Europe and America because of its totally blind faith. Islam, on the other hand, destroyed the Zoroastrians, but I still see them as less worse than European Christians, that is, these religions brought misfortune and deaths wherever they went, I'm not one of those types of people who only say the bad part, they heard the good parts. , but the bad side stands out when it comes to religions that come from a certain people
@@Iovi_Magno For thousands of years, people have continually conquered and killed each other. Romans erased the Etruscans, Iberians, Phoenicians, Gauls, and the Greeks assimilated the Anatolians, Phrygians, Minoans and many others. I think that it is stupid and pointless to unequivocally assess the role of any civilization/religion in history.
@@iroquoianmapper The point is that none of them conquered to "eliminate" or "annihilate", they even assimilated these people, but the Christians really wanted to annihilate, really end, because the other people did not match what they thought or followed
Hi everyone.
You have no idea how happy I am that I finally finished this video! I'm watching and crying). This is quite a complex topic for a video, so if you liked it, don't forget to give it a like.
Enjoy the video!
I can tell you put a lot of work into this. Amazing job! 👏
Video Is Good And Proto Greek Religion Theory Is False, Proto Is Not Older Term, Greeks Called (Hellenes,Achaeans,) Not Proto Greek Term.
Thank you! This is quality work!
islam didn't replace Hinduism to majority until the 8th or 9th century
Vast Majority of Iranians are not Muslim any more 😂😂😂
said as an iranian
I love the detail that Khorasan became Muslim faster than Fars. You should keep in mind that Zoroastrianism was still relevant in the 11-12th centuries in Iran.
Khorasan is part of Persia.
@@Abolfazl-pf6yg No it isn't. Fars is the region west of Kerman and east of Basra.
@@ishakrahuya huh? I'm Iranian
@@Abolfazl-pf6yg I am also Iranian. What's your point?
No it wasnt relevant. Most zorastrians fled towards India and Nepal when Islam slaughtered them all. So in Iran itself it has lost all followers.
After 2500 years BC, we Zoroastrians still remain in this pure land
I wish Jews could say the same :(. But we can come back now
Judaism was founded way earlier like 500-1000 years
@@averyjudd1281go back and find out
@@megandrawlerstories1821 Zoroastrianism was founded in 1700 BCE that's nearly 3700 years from today.
No, 90% parsi(Zororastians) living peacefully High freedomly in India.. many Neighbours are Zororastians friendly Neighborhood
Zoroastrianism is much, much older from what is shown in the video.
true
Evidence ?
@@TeesPring-u7e are you dumb
This is speculative since there is not enough evidence. Some people say Zarathushtra himself was alive arround 600BC so if there is something before its not Zoroastrianism, you can say they shared some traditions that originated arroud 1500~2000BC but it was not Zoroastrianism since there is no Zaratustra, and if this is true they got incorporated or converted. Just like Ancient Egypt can be separated into shorter periods.
Ancient Persian fire worship is predecessor to Zoroastrianism not the religion itself. Like Second Temple Judaism is much different than Ancient Israelite Religion.
during early islamic Iran era it was sunni it was later the Iranian safavid dynasty which forcefully converted everyone to shiism
True
is there evidence for this? could you cite sources?
misconception/propaganda created by ottomans Iran was Shia since 850 ( Buyid Empire, Safarid empire ) all Shia dynasties and if you look at the Persian scholars (Al khwarizmi, jabir ibn hayan, Al biruni, ibn sina) they were all Shia
ngl but shiiaism is better than sunni (sunni arabs are crazy)
Propaganda
I Armenian Christian✝️
Barev, Hayastan!🇦🇲
@@iroquoianmapper Barev dses
I've been in armenia last year it's beautiful
It's a province of iran that got separated by the Soviets so no such thing as armenian you are persian
@@Jerald_radanian That's Azerbaijan not Armenia
As an historian i see an error…the Egyptian tradition religion was eliminated in 542…by the emperor Giustiniano, when the last temples was closed in south Egypt
You showed the Taliban movement in the video as "Wahhabist",which is not accurate;they are in fact Deobandi.Other than that the video was great!
its a ideology not sect
@adnan_honest_jihadist5775 you honestly jihad instead of secretly tiptoeing to jihad?
@@Granochereal You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does.
@@michaireneuszjakubowski5289 a jihad is a Islamic religious war.
@Fredrick-The-Great it doesn't have to be. A jihad is any struggle. An internal struggle with disbelief would also be a jihad, but it's most commonly used in the same context as crusade.
Zoroastrians of ancient Iran.😢😭 I am a Zoroastrian.🙂
جدی؟
@@amirx-yk3yc آره. من زرتشتی هستم.
@@SHAHRAM.parsi347 زرتشتی به دنیا اومدی، یا چسی چسی داری می گی زرتشتیم؟راستشو بگو
@@amirx-yk3yc خودم زرتشتی به جهان چشم گشودم.
Better than Islam.@@SHAHRAM.parsi347
Ethiopian church: I still standing.
It's crazy to witness how many Zoroastrians are here together (I didn't expect that much)
90% larpers or diaspora. not actual iranians in iran.
They probably aren't really Zoroastrians but pretend to be so, like all those neo-pagans in Europe.
Druze aren’t Muslims they are their own thing.
Yes, it is, and I marked it with a separate color.
@@iroquoianmapperyou place Druze in Islam cathegory
@@iroquoianmapper
They're branch of shia Islam according to Wikipedia
The Druze belong to islam in particular to the Ismaili Shiaa from which they split
@@karar_YT@ismailselmi4628 Druzism orgininated in rafidhism but they are not Muslims. Babists and bahaists are also rafidhis but they are not Muslims.
this video is completely wonderful bro continue like this
Thank you!
A historical fact - we don't see that there are Turks in all the maps, but we see that there were Armenians. Now the Turks are taking Armenian lands and killing them. We still haven't forgotten the Armenian genocide by the Turks.
Doesn't matter if Armenians don't fight back.
How about the genocide of Christians by Armenians? Armenian traders supplied the Turks with Christian slaves for centuries.
Good.
@@shroob636 Defending genocide is what backwards people do.
@@shroob636 Israel❤❤
I am an Iranian, and Islam is being eliminated in Iran, I don't know why, but Iranian people are no longer interested in Islam, do you know the reason?
Because since the 15th century they have been forced to learn the wrong Islam, i.e. Shia
However I hope that true Islam returns to greater Persia and that all Persians appreciate it, amin
@@JackGroon Go pray for yourself, Arab
@@JackGroonnope! HAHA.😅
@@dingbat999 ?
saying this as a türk , wish we could stay in our own religion.
@@samisky35 yes
I wish Manichaeism was shown or Mazdakism
And Zurvanism
@@raggie1778 They were just different sects of Zoroastrianism.
@@ShahanshahShahin Normal Zoroastrianism Call "Mazdayasna", And Yes Zurvanism Sect Of Zoroastrianism (Non-Mazdayan Sect)
5:07 Southern Iraq was indeed Shiite from the era of Mukhtar, and indeed most of the emirates in southern Iraq were Shiite, such as Bani Mazyad and the Emirate of Al-Bathaha.
3:30 as a historian, I'm always impressed by the work people put into videos like these, yet I am equally disappointed every time when I see people make the same mistake over and over again, that being that Islam quickly became the majority religion in Persia and the fertile crescent within the span of a single human lifetime, when that simply couldn't be further from the truth. It was a process that took centuries. With around 5% of the population being Muslim by the end of the Umayyad dynasty, 10-15% being Muslim around a century later, with Muslims only becoming a majority in the greater middle east at some point around the year 1000CE.
Thank you very much!
But history says this, as Omar bin Al-Khattab, may God be pleased with him, conquered Persia, and you cannot deny this.
@ameeralfayyadh9222 conquer the land is different from changing faith of the whole land
@@BringJoyNow I agree with you, Islam spread gradually, but I thought he was talking about conquering the land.
Alexander the Great actually had plans in mind to send an expeditionary force into Arabia, specifically the coastal areas and if the expeditionary force was successful, there's a good chance he would've decided to conquer those Arabian territories, but unluckily death decided to welcome him into its doorstep at just 32 years of age. If Alexander had lived for at least 15-20 more years and actually conquered Arabia. There's a big chance Islam might not even exist today because the population would've been too hellenised culturally and religiously for a monothesitic religion like Islam to sprout out. Its just mind blowing how many things could've been different if he had lived just a little longer. There will never be another like him. He truly is the Great.
The fact that if he conquered Arabia, chances are incredibly tiny that:
1- Hellenistic culture takes hold in Arabia more than it did in real life
2- In the very likely event of his kingdom’s dissolution there are no chances that any diadochi keeps control over Arabia
Also:
3- Christianity, which for all intent and purposes is 95% similar to Islam compared to other religions, spread around a Latin and Hellenic pagan Mediterranean
4- Arabia at the time of prophet Muhammad was home to several Jewish and Christian tribes, the Christian Roman Empire and Abyssinia as well as Zoroastrian Persia did exert a heavy influence on those tribes.
5- If you want a scenario where Islam doesn’t exist, you need a scenario where Jesus and Christianity never emerged
We couldn’t be that lucky
@@nonamelenina1046 Not really. If you don't want Islam to emerge, just get rid of Muhammad. Even a 50 year halt between new religious movements would make the situation too difficult for any new force to conquer and replace like Islam did
@@nonamelenina1046 No wrong 5 is false, you don't need a scenario in which Christianity doesn't exist in order to have a scenario in which islam doesn't exist because simply islam came after Christianity ( this scenario was true for the years 30-600 approximately)
@@xsfsdsdhen1739 I disagree. Islam as we know it would have never emerged if Christianity never existed as Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet. Moreover if Christianity didn't become the dominant religion in the Roman Empire I doubt an Abrahamic religion like Islam would emerge in Arabia. At best that religion would be much closer to Hebrew rites
you didn't added Hinduism in starting of video because it had already started in 4000 Bce and reached till Indus till 2500 Bce
As usual an another great video from this channel
Thank you!
I am Yazidi from Shingal(Sinjar) we practise Yazidism and we have old Mesopotamian practices too and also mithrasim. But you did not include it after 12th century yazidism formed differently. Sad 😐
Please forgive me, when I remembered about the Yezidis, it was already too late. I think this is a topic for a separate video.
Namaste from Bharat🇮🇳 bro,
I am a hindu and after researching about yazidi religion, I think that yazidis have origin in hinduism. Whatever stay safe.
@@tirmAralihKchal phli furasat m nikl😂😂😂narangi santre 😂😂😂inko konsi caste m rakhega
Respekt from Christians to you
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As a Turk/Greek Muslim, Zoroastrizm is much more older religion than whole Abrahamic religions (Jew, Christian, İslam) and should be respected as first monoteist belief. I love BC Persian culture so much ♥️
Hz. Adam was Muslim too. Islam is oldest.
@samisky35 As historical proof, there is no evidince for that.
@@SedaYudumAlkan u said ur muslim isnt that enough...
@@samisky35 On my belief yes it's enough. But I don't look that way on religions.
Good video! Hope this gets lots of likes
Amazing video man.
Thank you!
Yeaaa. Its incredible to see how islamism destryed middle east.
@@hugo3031 No they did not, the Middle East was thriving after the Islamic Conquests. Making new discoveries, science, technology, mathematics, inventions, Ever heard of the Islamic Golden Age? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
@@hugo3031 No, The Middle East was flourishing with new discoveries, science, math, and technology after Islam spread, Ever heard of the Islamic Golden Age? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
@@hugo3031oh no human sacrifice was abolished
From 1890 to 1980 you see how much Christianity dissapeared over in Anatolia and Cyprus?
No from 1920 to 1930 and from 1970 to 1980.
In 1922 Greek and Armenian Christians in modern day Turkey suffered genocides.
And in 1974 Turkey illegally invaded Cyprus occypied half and then the Turkish-Cypriots who were and are Muslims moved to the North part
@@Ilovemarvelll exactly.
Christians in Anatolia went to donkey heaven😂😂😂
@@Ilovemarvelll
Do you think Christians didnt do genocides to turks/muslims?
In fact,the turks invaded cyprus bcs the Christians were doing massacres to the turks living in cyprus!
ottoman ethnic cleansing, they went after Armenians and Greeks which were the two Christian ethnicities that lived then
Knock Knock its Rashidun caliphate
Knock knock it's the Assassins (The videos have English subtitles)
Muslim crimes:
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The crimes of the fourth caliph Rashidun:
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And the rashiduns have a bit of ideas It would like to share
@@Zakariyahjelmi-g6f $$$
im zoroasterian and i love my religion
Are you from India ?
@@mithridatesi9981 no he works for hasbara
@@Rockyrock511 yup.
Its really strange, how did some nomads in the Arabian desert mange to take over these empires so easily. Its remarkable if you think about it. But also remember, Romans already ruined the whole region and made each and every coutry weak and easy to conquer.
Why didn’t you include Buddhism in Bactria or Sogdiana?
Why do these videos keep showing whabbism? Its a political movement not a sect
@@urduft8687 it's not a sect, they are still sunnis
@@insectilluminatigetshrekt5574Najdis are kharijis.
@@insectilluminatigetshrekt5574Najdis are not Sunni even though many of them claim to be.
@@urduft8687 религиозное политическое движение, а не отдельная ветвь религии
Wahhabism is not Muslims and has nothing to do with Islam. It is a dissident religion from the Sunnis and was established from Britain by the English General Johnny Philip and Percy Cox. Wahhabism is Kharijites even they blaspheme all Muslims who are contrary to their ideology and worship a God who is sixty cubits long and wears cat fur A religion similar to Judaism-Christianity.... All Muslims are the Sunnah of Shafi'I, Ahaf and Malikiyah
Great video keep,up the great work I gave this one a like :) only mistake is saying Iran was majority Shia for the first 900 years of islam when that’s not the case it was majority Sunni and then became majority Shia under the Safavids in the 1500s and 1600s other than that great work.
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3:22
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I thing central asia was also buddhist specially during kushan empire it became the base of buddhism.
Most greeks also followed buddhism in the region.
Is crazy to think how just one man, from the Arabian desert just change the geographical view on what we see on the middle east now, true words from God only can make results like that.
And the sword
@@diegovilla9773 least violent muslim fr
@@diegovilla9773 and cleansing
satan did that. Muhammad was hearing satan and spread Islam with the sword. The true God is Jesus.
@@diegovilla9773 applying this reply will is more suitable for the crusades.
Shouldnt Christianity, be far more prevalent in Arabia by the rise of islam? I mean the Lakhmids, and Ghassanids were both Christian and ruled those regions for centuries and theres evidence that the Christian populations there resisted conversion for decades following the rise of Islam. As well as churches that have been excavated in the UAE and Bahrain, as well as sources indicate there was less-than insignificant populations of Christians in the region
As well as there should be atleast a minority presence of the Church of the East in Central Asia (specifically modern Turkmenistan) as the Sassanids really enjoyed exiling Christians there under their less accepting Shahs.
How about the Yazidis who are an ancient ethno-religious group with roots that trace back thousands of years. Their faith, Yazidism, incorporates elements of pre-Islamic Mesopotamian religions, Zoroastrianism, Christianity, and Islam. Their religious traditions are believed to be at least several millennia old, dating back to ancient Mesopotamia.
3:05 You know, I would have assumed that there'll be a Jerusalemite Church for a while before being absorbed by the Syriac Church as East of the Major Churches but for the Church of the East and Armenian Church, corresponds to a patriachal bishopric, Copts to Alexandria, Syriacs to Antioch, Eastern Chalcedonians(Eastern Orthodox) to Constantinople and Western Chalcedonians(Catholic Church) to Rome. So it seems weird Jerusalem never had a phase of being its own Church.
Nicene Christianity made it into Nubia earlier. In Nobatia, by 500 its King had converted and as for Alodia, by 340s it was conquered for a time by Aksum. Yeah, it would be further cemented with the Byzantine embasies of Justinian's era but it was well established before then.
Similarly, Islam grows too fast(But you did capture exactly where Zoroastrianism retained dominance). Until the Umayyads Muslims proper were a minority, in part cus the Umayyads didn't want more converts and in parts cuz many took up the name but not the beliefs. Its with the Abbasids(starting even with the process of their rebellion) that the religion started to tip over 50% in large areas(only some cities scattered strategically around the empire would have already been majority muslim)
3:20 the begin of the horror💀
Yes worker of Satan, your nightmare has arrived! 🏴
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No that’s actually 2:37.
As an Iranic kurd Muslim, I can feel the anger and disappointment of our Zoroastrian ancestors, they are disappointed in modern Iranians because of converting to Islam, now I’m not saying anything bad about Islam, Islam is my religion and it is a religion of peace, but it’s early followers were ruined it all, yes I am a Sunni who is against early Muslim caliphs, they were nomads and didn’t know one thing: peace, they didn’t know that they could spread Islam PEACEFULLY in Sassanid Iran, an empire which let its people practice their religion peacefully, curse the early caliphs! Enforcing their religion and culture upon us! Unlike North Africa, we were strong enough to survive these policies.
Lol this has to be a troll
@@cooldude05940 I think so 👍
Sure you're not sunni !!!
Yap all you want, I am Sunni and will always be
The early Caliphs built an empire. They didn't force everyone to become Muslims, in fact they outright forbade most conversions and simply taxed everyone with jizya to maximise the sum of the state treasury
Zoroastrianism just spawned immediately lmao
Hinduism in whole video 🕉🗿🧘♂️
@@darthvader6110 but the major india is still hindu
Average hindu-indian kid:
@@Emiric-Mapper true,,, keep crying 🧘♂️
You are not middle Eastern what are you here.
@@TeesPring-u7e for getting knowledge
There is no Wahabism they Are to Sunnis
Actually, there are "wahhabis" or how they actually should be called: najdis. And they are kharijis even though many of them claim to be Sunni.
@@muhammedgullu3103Khawarij Is Not Majority In Najd Deserts.
I love this! Keep it up!
Thank you!
you should start citing sources in your videos
It looks pretty legit
I read about zoroastrianism and was fascinated by how close it was to modern thinking. in it heaven/utopia is a country based on order and the purpose of life is to develop this country and to make yourself and others happy but not to make yourself happy at the expense of others.
I always wonder how could we possibly go from that to what we had for the past 1400 years...
We Hindu still fallow our Culture
Long live hindusam
Didn't Muslims ruled india for over 800 years??
@Canopus-z-o 800 🤣🤣🤣
No
@Canopus-z-o 😆 lol haahaa
800 year 🤣🤣
@@Gjdsgsgshvvh Is education ban in india?? I can provide source if u want?
@Canopus-z-o They ruled *parts* of India for 500 yrs.(warlord periods). Prior to that halted Caliphate Invasion for 500+yrs, when Byzantine declined & Persia Turks fell under Izlem.
They are properly educated.
3:27 Soundtrack plays feels like pilgrimes rushing towards the the kaaba shrine and great wise men giving sermons in mosques meanwhile empires expanding and fighting eachother it is was the Medieval Era in middle east.
Zoroastrianism forever 💪🦁
No.
As European Christian. I am mostly impressed by Zoroastrianism.
Wahhabism and Sufism aren't different kinds of Islam. Wahhabism is a reformist religious movement, while Sufism is a mystical movement. Wahhabis are exclusively Sunnis, while Sufis can be either Sunnis or Shias.
This is very accurate.
Thank you!
Zoroastrianism: Your encircling the holy
Muslim: idc
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Go read what is Written about jesus in the talmud, you are welcome
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Good video❤ can you do central asia and china?
This is actually really accurate, but Shi'a muslims never became relevant in iran until the advent of the Safavids.
They became relevant with the Buyids, Safavids is when they completely dominated Iran
Inaccurate. Zoroastrians were there about 1300 BC. It is a very old religion
This is partly true, but the modern form of Zoroastrianism appeared around the 6th century BC.
@@iroquoianmapper wdym modern form? Idioacy.
@MountainFalls23101 study, ignorant
@@jojopipefanfics1899 muslim?🤓
@@MountainFalls23101 i'm more jewish/hindu than muslim, Hinduism dates back to 3000 B.C. and Judaism to 1400 B.C.
Zoroastrianism is alive in center of IRAN
why you didn't mention it on the map?
I forgot about it, I'm sorry.
@@iroquoianmapperYou aren't wrong, in fact there is no city with Zoroastrian majority in Iran. Today, with the increase of differences between the people and the Islamic Republic, some thought of changing their religion. However, there is no city with a Zoroastrian majority in Iran, and a society with a new religion has not been formed yet
کصخلی الکی دروغ میگی؟
I met a Zoroastrian at my university!
Great job. The region that gave birth to the greatest religions
Thank you!
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The Shia one especially from the beggining is really inaccurate.
3:29 is a bad time for zoroasterian. 😢
Its a tragedy for all humankind actually
@@Giggty266 lol keep crying. dont use camera, universities, optics and al gebra since these were created by that tragedy
@@Rockyrock511 None of these belong to Muslims, they are not achievements, basically what they did was to have the Orthodox Aramaic people translate Greek books and add some things to them, that's all, algebra emerged in Egypt long before Islam
Just cry about it
@@Giggty266 yeah sure buddy, why didnt europeans have optics since they already discovered all of this?
religion of peace moment
- little Timmy, born in 2014
@ I know you people like kids, but I’m not one of them
3 in 1 moment
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Zoroastrism - Freddy Mercury's religion! ))))) ....Well, technically his parents'! ))))
Amazing video, kinda sucks that a lot of sect and cult exist instead of the true one
the map is not true and not right iran wasnt shia untill 1500 and the shia in levant wasnt there before 1500
You accidentally captured at least a couple genocides
Great video, glad that we can see such a masterpiece 😅
Thank you!
Zoroastrianism started around 1500 to 1000 BCE in Afghanistan as the society of the Avesta is one of pre-literate pastorialists and barely familiar with metal. It did not start in Southern Iran.
Fools that are crying should know the face that Islam is the only religion that restored peace in mIddle east, from the bloodshed of Sassasinds, and Christains, they had made middle east a battle ground for thousand years, middle east only saw propensity and its golden age, under islamic rule.
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@@the4thindustrialrevolution225 I can smell you from comment section
Who raided the Kaaba?
Why would we raid our own pilgrimage site
@iCodeStuff69 Bathe with a Shampoo, you won't smell.
In your thumbnail: Greece doesn't use the Slavic cross.
💚🏳لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله🏴💚
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. mUhammad is killer.
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@@playersigma56789 *cure
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Let's not talk about the Thirty Years War ☺️
*boom*
Amazing!
Thank you!
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Do u live in Canada or US?
No, I live in Russia.
@@iroquoianmapper ah, based bro
Allahu akbar, proud i'm muslim and turk 🤲🏻
Is that a good Thing, that your culture and Real religion of your ancestors got demolished?
Lol.
Shia has never been this exaggerated.
3:20 Iraq was Christian, with the exception of its large Iranian minority
really interesting and cool to watch! however, keep in mind that sindh and even qawm-e-pashtun wasn't fully islamized til much later
Why india is not islamic after mostly islamic invasion in sindh to panipat
because islam dont force people to accept it . depend upon a person to freely accept it if islam forces people to accept by sword everyone in india would be muslim then
Because of local resistance from maratha who almost conquered all of india.
Rajputs sikhs ahoms also had an impact and south india was mostly ruled by hindu kings.
Because Muslims were religiously tolerant and didn’t forcefully converted locals, lower caste hindus accepted islam in great numbers
@@well_art
Maratha bandits could not do shit, they are greatly known for their grape culture which hindu extremists still follow till this day
@@User_47536 what ? Source
I study history that muslim invaders destroy 200k hindu temple just 600years
Or they destroy 500+ ancient Universities
Example:- nalanda University have 9Million books but muslim general baithiye Khilji destroy University or burn books 9Million just month's and killed students or teachers
I don't think muslim really tolerate in India
The timeline is wrong given that the Arabian peninsula and Ethiopia mostly adhered to abrahamic religions by the fourth century such as Judaism, Christianity and hybrids.
3:23 best moment
I don't know if the pagans had "tensions" the way pagan vs monotheism, Abrahamic religions vs 1 another (Christian, Muslim, Jewish), or inter-Islamic tensions played out (Shia vs Sunni).
Pagans often accepted each other's gods as just another change or addition to what they already worshipped, the names, lore, and specific forms of worship were relatively interchangeable, and the enemy "god" would be symbolically defeated and statues/shrines destroyed, but often worship was tolerated afterward conquest. In certain cases this changed, such as the Romans killing all druids, but in general, submit and your gods would be tolerated.
In the pagan world, this happened all the time, from when Babylonians conquered Assyrians, Romans the Greeks, Persians the Egyptians, Greeks the Egyptians and Persians, ad infinitum. The Romans and Greeks also tolerated monotheism amongst the Jews unless it suggested defiance of Imperial rule, as with the Romans per Josephus' account of the legionary eagle in the Temple, or destruction of any statues of the Emperor in Jerusalem.
One theory as to why pagans tolerated each other's gods might be that the worship was simply of forces of nature, and god names, concepts, and lore were all pretty flexible. Additionally, when the other gods were destroyed by a conquering force, it could be due to the national will of one "god over the other", like with Ashur, or Marduk, or Jupiter or Zeus vs the god of the Hebrews, etc.
Pagans did not always tolerate eachother. We know this from Roman history. The Romans generally didn't mind most religions but they actively hated the followers of Isis and it was made illegal at times. The religion of emperor Egalubus was also not liked. The greeks were not fond of Zoroastraianism or Judaism with the Selucids even Sacrificing pigs in the temple of God and forcing the Jews to worship Zeus. In the roman empire Sacrificing to the emperor's genus (a powerful spirit looking over the emperor) was mandatory in times of crisis. The Romans had no respect for the druids either or the gods of their mortal enemies carthage. In mesopotamia destroying the idols of foreign gods was a thing after defeating enemies.
I think the acceptance of other religions by the "pagans" of Greece and Rome compared to Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is not due to 'pagan' gods being forces of nature, but due to Judaism believing in only 1 God, and treating all other gods as evil demons and forbidding the worship of other gods. Also an obsession on having the correct beliefs not just practices. This practice was common among the neighbours of the Jews too. These beliefs trickled down into the offshoots of the Jewish religion; Christianity and Islam. For the greeks and Romans they by and large believed every god was a real god or was simply a form of their own god. The Greeks and Romans often talk about gods like thoth and odin as being a form of hermes/mercury or of Yahwey or amun as being Zeus/Jupiter. They also had a practice of inviting the gods of their enemies to join the pantheon.
As Holland wrote in Dominion, sometimes the same God was understood to ensure relations and avoid wars based on religion differences, for example to Pompeii the Great it was basic that Zeus = Jupiter = Jahwe to make the Roman Republic work, it was what today many says "Allah and the Christian God is the same". Actually wrong, but politically correct.
@@BringJoyNow Allah and the Christian God ARE the same God
@@BringJoyNow it has nothing to do with politics but common sense
Good video (like the accurate depiction of Circassia) but I don't understand:
- Why Hejaz is shia in 640
- Why are Sufi orders a seperate sect while they were considered mainstream sunni for most of history (until the salafi/wahhabi influence spread)
Was gonna argue abouy the second one but hi patlichan !!!
@@bodycornflower Hi, do I know you?
Because it was Shia in 640
No bro. That was the time of Abu Bakrs khilafa
the Qaramatians with their Leader Abu Tahir Al Janabi who sacked Mecca and massacre the Muslims in mecca. They plucked out the black stone and breaked it into piece. He torned Quran while reciting the verses where it says no non muslim will ever enter mecca and allah will send birds to protect it. He mocked the Islam.
Zoroastrianism 🔥🔥🔥
The levant wasn’t all Canaanite only the south was
630 AD ☠️☪️
C'est juste magnifique à voir ❤
Bientôt l'Europe deviendra musulmane ❤
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Oh here we go a war 💀
where is mithraism
This is a mystical cult and it became more widespread among the Roman army in the west of the Empire than in the Greek east.
@@iroquoianmapper mithraism was Iran's religion before Zoroastrianism, and yeah it get to ROME from IRAN.
Armenian religion called hetanism before Christianity
Thank you!
Seeing the, “poof you gone” to the Jews in 140 AD was sad
Druze is it's own religion, It's not Islam.
Hoped to see Manicheanism on the list, and Early Islam categorized as something different (e.g. believers movement) from 690s onwards "Islam" because that would be more accurate historically. Good job though! 😇😉
Anatolia was almost full muslim in after the 1600s
Except coastline.
Can u make of south asia.
Yes.
I am Iranian
Iranian people have forgotten superstitions and most of them are not Muslims anymore
This can be understood from congregational prayer and women's hijab
Despite the many propaganda of the Islamic government
It's sad what Abrahamic religions have done to the world 😔
What exactly?
@@iroquoianmapper In Europe, they (Christians) destroyed the legendary Roman and Greek cultures, replacing them with an alien culture and faith coming from the desert, something that doesn't even make sense, apart from all the deaths that this religion caused in Europe and America because of its totally blind faith. Islam, on the other hand, destroyed the Zoroastrians, but I still see them as less worse than European Christians, that is, these religions brought misfortune and deaths wherever they went, I'm not one of those types of people who only say the bad part, they heard the good parts. , but the bad side stands out when it comes to religions that come from a certain people
@@Iovi_Magno For thousands of years, people have continually conquered and killed each other. Romans erased the Etruscans, Iberians, Phoenicians, Gauls, and the Greeks assimilated the Anatolians, Phrygians, Minoans and many others. I think that it is stupid and pointless to unequivocally assess the role of any civilization/religion in history.
@@iroquoianmapper The point is that none of them conquered to "eliminate" or "annihilate", they even assimilated these people, but the Christians really wanted to annihilate, really end, because the other people did not match what they thought or followed
@@Iovi_Magno ignorant, nonsense guy