What I hate the most about this plot twist is that it retroactively turns the moment in chapter 1 where he tells Midoriya that he can’t work as a quirkless hero since it’s far too dangerous for regular people into him somehow being wrong? The entire reason he gave Deku OFA was BECAUSE he realized that’s all he was missing to be a pro hero, since he stepped into action when no one else (even pros and himself) would, having support items be good enough to fight any villains kinda ruins that message
But it was wrong since day one? Mineta's quirk, for example, can be entirely replaces by a support item, and as a demerit he is a little person. Quirkless people should have an advantage over him.
@@maokamui Who’s to say Mineta can’t just get a support item to amp his? This is literally what Bakugo’s gauntlets do. They store his SPECIFIC nitroglycerin sweat to recreate his blast at their strongest without down side of recoil damage. The thing is Bakugo CAN still opt into do it naturally. The story never delves into the possibility of support item type heroes. Giving the impression that quirk users are just a whole another level. Support gear is made in mind of existing quirk to amp or “support” the user. Despite that All Might made a point to not rely on solely support gear regardless. What support item replicates what Mineta’s quirk? His quirk is actually decently versatile.
@@Jaymizuband yeah being a weak hero doesn't put you under a quiekless person. At the end of all a material like mineta grapes don't exist that can glue things with perfect stickiness for day and you would need to go around carrying a giant cartridge since you don't produce them in your body
Also if you can make a suit that can stop the strongest character in the verse for a few seconds no matter how expensive you could do the same to 90% of the villains in the series. Especially since most of them only have human level durability
While I am 1000% against All Might dying at all, if he had to die, I'd much rather have him die saving someone's life on his own. No gear, no nothing. Just a man showing his students that true heroism is about who you are and not what you can do. Granted, half the final arc has been hammering home this message to the point that I'm tired of it, but if making All Might's death suck less I can deal with hearing it one more time.
Can we get a video on how mha ruined quirks? They went from genetic abilities that were similar to muscles to be trained, to literally whatever the plot needs
@@twicejaeger6997 I think you can easily fill 10 minutes with people like toga or even worse shigaraki getting a prime all might body QUIRKLESS and the making an Akira reference later on
@@raskult the problem is not the situation but the fact that we went from I have to train myself for a month in the forest to become a little harder or to control a bit more electricity to I'm mad so I can burn an entire city and manifest a new quirk on the fly
Yeah, I also noticed the passing of the torch being undone three times now. Hori wanted to do it but not really so gave each of the characters half. All Might and Midoriya AFO and Shigaraki Endeavor and Shouto. I guess the old generation isn't really done.
Slight Disagreement on shoto and Endeavor. Shoto did eclipse his pops in regards to be able to stop dabi. So in a sense, he did succeed in finding a successor to being a more well rounded hero than himself.
@@TheYoungGeninSasuke I was supporting your point infact. Shoto arc basically ended in the sport festival to accept himself and then had a few good interaction with his father but everything with dabi after that is more endeavour problem than his since it's him that drove the boy to madness
More like Hori wants them all to go out in a blaze of glory... instead of accepting that their time in the limelight was done and it was time for the next generation to take the stage, taking their final bow as the curtain falls on their parts in this story... But why do that when we can get EXPLOSIONS, DESTRUCTION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY, DEATH, ANARCHY, AND ALL THE OTHER EDGY BULLSHIT THAT KIDS LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
I honestly always expected this because of nighteye's prophecy. I never once considered AFO and All might to take a back seat from the story, especially AFO considering his selfish personality to just "give" shigaraki everything is a contridiction. I do agree though that iron man all might is pretty damn stupid. I expected a quirkless all might trying to protect someone one last time, reiterating deku from chapter one, ending his life as a sacrifice. All might being a selfless mentor helping deku and AFO'S selfish, clinging to his life to remain relevant through shigiraki's body was where I thought this going. Afo vs all-might round 3 is kinda the opposite of the whole mentor thing from all might's side of the coin.
@@Chaospirex looking back it wasnt really Deku changing fate, it was Eri who continuously rewinded his injuries which kept him alive and strong. Either way, changing fate doesn't seem like something that could be easily done and with All Might recklessly going into battle in his state im pretty sure no one is trying to make sure the prophesy doesnt happen. its sad, really
The prophecy was always a Chekhov's gun to me since the whole message in the first few sagas were suppose to be about fighting against your own fate, that no matter how set in stone your worth in the eyes of society is you can still rise above it and change you destiny that had been forced upon you at birth. To me this was the great oath that All Might and Deku made to each other, that no matter what the two of them would change their fates and in doing so become men better than their predecessors... But Hori decided that that message meant as much as the rest of the messages he threw away in pursuit of this anti-climactic... climactic confrontation between All Might and All For One.
Maybe All Might could have gotten on an intercom and told people to hold out hope. As a sort of rallying cry for people to stand in AFO's way to stall him. I think that would be a better way for him to use his status. Or maybe he could have had professional connections to some of the pros who quit, and he could have asked them personally. I agree, once I think of Iron Might in that light, it is disappointing
We had him request foreign heroes for help at the start of the SNS arc (offscreen) having him do it on this arc to rally heroes into aiding Japan could have been a great moment
I thought it was a pretty great approach tbh. He had to hold back one for all, and he's the only one who OFA would be dumb enough to waste time trying to kill. Allmight had to come up with some realistic way to stop him, hence the iron man suit. The entire time you see Allmight getting wrecked and smiling and finally tries to blow himself up. He essentially took decades off OFAs life through his personality
If you actually read the story you’d know Deku is the one who inspired the retired heroes and if u think all might was gonna go get civilians murdered you are a dumbass!
So if they had iron man power armor then why is no one using them? The quality of one's quirk, or lack thereof, becomes pointless since anyone can put on a suit to make up for such limitations.
Tbf we haven't even seen what the suit can do yet and how well it can even keep up with AFO. For all we know this is the only suit that exists and they might not have enough materials to make one for everyone. We've already seen instances of quirkless people attempt to keep up with those with quirks by using support items, so I think it makes sense for the series to showcase the "ultimate support item". Plus, it follows the original theme of still being able to be a hero even without a quirk
@@waltz4life it invalidates that theme because it makes the whole matter pointless. The fact is that the suit does exist so why aren't there iron men flying about? Why hasn't the military made this as part of their standard equipment? Why aren't there companies building, developing, and selling these suits? With the existence of I-island, U.A. being turned into Autobot city, a flying battlefield, and stealth fighters with lasers and force fields there is really no good reason why these suits are not wide spread and why there was such a focus on flashy quirks when anyone can invalidate that by putting on a suit.
@@andresmarrero8666 like I said, maybe it's the only suit that's available or that can be made. We've yet to get any details about the suit so it doesn't really invalidate anything until we get an explanation. You're jumping the gun a bit imo. It could be a prototype and they haven't gotten around to making more of it yet. Even if more of the suit did exist, it doesn't invalidate flashy quirks but rather allows quirkless people a way to keep up in a quirk-centric society. And that's assuming the suit will even stand a chance against AFO
@@waltz4life and why are there no one doing that? If anyone can put on such a suit then the focus on flashy quirks shouldn't have been such a societal factor. You keep saying that the suit has limitations but that presumption has little traction due to what has been shown at this point. Makeshift self altering fortresses and flying battlefield very much invalidates the logistics of power armor. At the very least there is little reason as to why such technology is not held and utilized by the military and places like U.A.
To add oil to the fire, AM dying here would go against the lesson he learned in Kamino. Because back then he had the chance to permanently kill AFO but at the cost of his life. But AM remembered that Izuku still needed him in his life as a mentor and father figure and opted to stay alive for Izuku's sake. Dying at Kamino or now in the final arc would traumatize Izuku, reaffirm his belief that he should stayed alone to protect his loved ones. Also AM dying would come at the worst time for Izuku whose willpower could break making it easier for AFO or Shigaraki to steal OFA forever.
Problem is if he doesn’t do this (as far as all might’s knowledge goes) Shigi&Afo would jump Deku stealing Afo.Keep in mind All Might doesn’t even know now that Shigi is against Afo as well now and still thinks they are on the same side.So All Might is pretty much doing “It’s either basically my son getting his quirk stolen and dying or I die” knowing all might’s character which one do you think he would choose?As for the Iron suit we don’t even know what it is we just assuming Issa suit
It doesn’t go against the lesson he learned from Kamino and I think you missed multiple points here. Yes back than he knew Izuku still needed him, but now after all the training and guidance, All Might himself knows Deku has become more independent and doesn’t look back at him for approval anymore. At this point, it’s reassuring All Might that Deku can handle himself just fine now on his own. And true, All Might still opted to stay alive for Izuku’s sake and knew he still needed his guidance. But you also missed when All Might said these exact words, “I will protect your son! Even if it cost me my life!” And that’s exactly what he’s doing here. All Might had two options, either 1, stand back and do nothing while AFO and Shigaraki jump Deku, take OFA and kill him or Risk his life in order to protect him and keep AFO from interrupting his students fight. Now if we truly know All Might as a character and what he’s said in the past, which option do you think he would’ve chosen?
You know what's embarrassing? I didn't even notice All Might had a suit made entirely of support gear in that last panel of Ch 386. I legit thought All Might was just walking out to Talk no Jutsu AFO, to be followed by him failing miserably.
The suits all fun until afo uses the radio waves quirk and disables the electronics in allmights suits. Unless afo is excited to fight allmight like madara, since both made a sinister smile when they met their nemesis
@@jeffali5157 only the body is rewinding not the quirk. Real question should be does the copied afo quirk has all the stolen quirks or not? but I think it is there since he has search
The way my two favorite characters (Shigaraki and Twice) came back months ago on” hype cliffhanger” and have yet to do a single substancial thing because we kept focusing on AFO drives me insane
Yeah i know but what i mean is that his character (or well, his quirk) is currently playing a role in the narrative but it hasn’t been explored nearly as much as it should
But he was for a second, when he saved Baku from the mud villain, he showed he had some heroism inside of him, or at least prooved something. That impacted All Might, and now he shows what he learnt from that event.
@planet Birthday, I think about this all the time. I would’ve hated deku too if he was always whining about wanting to become a hero but doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to make that dream possible. If he had just gone the support route and worked out a ton, he could’ve been a quirkless hero, but instead he just sat there studying heroes instead of actually doing something. I know we wouldn’t have a plot without OFA but it’s still something I think about all the time, especially when characters like Shinso are able to be heroes, despite not having quirks with crazy combat abilities.
I've been waiting for good All Might content in the manga for ages and this is what I have been given... well at least the art is gonna be fire. Also, when was the last time he and Midoriya had an actual mentor-mentee conversation? Like... have they had a meaningful conversation at all since just after the lone wolf Deku arc??? I miss their little heart to heart moments.
They haven’t and it sucks so bad, all we got was their reunion on 327 which was SO lame cause neither of them addressed what led them to where they currently are
the twist for the sake of twist and because "it's damn cool !". What a bad author not caring about his manga anymore and themes in it. Clearly either he doesn't care about it or doesn't know how a story works (themes, what characters acted and thinks, contrary behavior...etc).
That’s a fair argument, but do keep in mind that manga authors are usually treated pretty horribly and have terrible working schedules. I’m definitely disappointed with how the series is going too, but I can also understand why Horikoshi would want nothing but to just get the series over with so he can finally rest properly. Mangaka schedules sound like straight hell, and is almost always horrible for both physical and mental health. As an artist myself I can’t even imagine😀
The only reason horikoshi is making all might fight prime AFO is to make sure nighteye's foresight comes true about All might's death in a gruesome battle. Although i'm 70% sure All Might wont die and will be saved by Eri's reverse quirk making it so that the only way to challenge a future nighteye saw was through Eri's ability. I mean the whole reason AFO is even able to fight right now after having lost against Endeavor is because of Eri's quirk so i feel like its gonna be her quirk to save them all post war end
My big issue with all might and this moment is that he’s barely had any presence in this story post kamino and I get it he can’t fight anymore in a battle shonen but even when he didn’t in seasons 1-3 he still had a notable presence in guiding midoriya to new possibilities about hero work and or revealing stuff about this past that will become integral later, after kamino he’s just kinda there to occasionally talk about a plan for midoriyas quirks or the war and can I just say I never liked how in less than a year of his retirement the worlds on the verge of the apocalypse, nearly all his fellow heroes and students have repeatedly failed to subdue and or defeat the same villains they’ve been dealing with for years when they should by all means have more resources and had the element of surprise thanks to hawks? It just feels like all might was right the whole time, that the world did need him to be a nigh invincible demi god because everything post my villain academia has proven the world’s thoroughly screwed without him. Why trust this new generation of heroes? They suck and can’t do anything right because horikoshi keeps stacking the villains with off screen plot armor crap because we desperately want to be dragon ball z’s freeza fight and the giant war of naruto, I’m not mad it’s just depressing seeing a clever, simple yet subversive shonen just become a very generic, confusingly silly, wannabe db/naruto :(
@@jeffali5157 Exactly, because he’s not there bakugo dies (except he doesn’t? Because this arc has literally lost its mind) and everyone absolutely fails sure the non protag characters not finishing the job is normal for shonens but that doesn’t work either because midoriyas barely had any focus and hardly feels like a character anymore my hero is not dbz. It needs to stop acting like it is 😐
@@kingkirby1394 it sucks cause it had so much potential throughout the start and now we get this mess among other issues really makes it more and more dissatisfied and disappointing.
@@fightingmedialounge519Maybe not subversive, but season 1-4 was setup to not be just a shooty-punchy anime. We start in a world where people have powers, and we see a societal setup that works to keep that chaos minimal, but with its flaws more than hinted at. We follow a bunch of starry eyed kids wanting to burst into the world, save the day and continue on. Slowly, the complexities stack on. We see at USJ that villains may not be the easy targets we think. We see at the sports festival, first presented to just be a normal thing, might be a decently messed up aspect of Hero society. Then stain (hypocrite that he is) point blank brings up some issues with Heroes efficiency, and public perception. As villain backstories start dropping, major issues like quirk discrimination, hands off civilians, heroes getting away with abuse and crimes, lacks if safeties for children coming in with superpowers, and a lack of help for "off" or "bad" quirks suddenly isn't a people slipping through the cracks problem, it's all a LARGE SCALE problem. The Overhaul arc was the last breath before the plunge. He's a clear cut villain, nothing to feel bad for, but even with such clean cut morales at play, getting a mission together and Eri out is a complex, convoluted process. Immediately after we meet Hawks, and his backstory and situation make it clear as day. Government forces, backed by societal expectation, are causing these issues or ignoring them in favor of keeping face and gaining personal power , setting a stage for selfish or anguished people to lash out. This story was going to be subversive and convoluted, at the least touching on a variety of interpersonal and cultural problems, with the setup of everyone, from heroes to business class to civilians, needing to be Heroes to help the world as much as they could. It was about needing everyone, from All mightean power to the hackers to the office workers needing to work together abd do their best The older generation gave a framework for peace, and the youth (hopefully at graduation and not all in their 15th year) now needed to fill the wall with intricatly cut stone. Instead the torch never gets passed, the government is killed in 1 day before they answer for anything, and everyone is thrown into punchy-shooty fights with one of the most plot deviced villains I've ever heard of. Themes get repeated (bakugo "dies" twice, we delay Shiggy in the war arc, with stars and stripes abd continually again with AFO, Hawks loses his feathers and almost dues, gets it back, an illusion of him dies, he comes back, and then his wings are finally taken, Deku keeps having to go rogue, All Might keeps repeating his arc, and I could go on) and more because Horikoshi completely abandoned his setup and had nowhere to go.
After finding your channel I started a reread of the series to see if your critics were on point. Damn I can't believe how bad it got and ruined all it's good points
All for One should've died at Kamino and just manipulated Shigaraki through the vestige realm. Him being alive and still doing practically nothing important besides taking Hawks' quirk bothers me
And Hawks could have easily lost his quirk on PLW 🤷🏻♂️ yeah the series would have been better off if we actually moved past AFO and let the conflict be completely Deku vs Shigaraki
@@nutellaninja4667 he has so much power and could have reasonably imposed himself as a villain so much more. He has done important things but he's just such a disappointment to me
@@3dsmaster537 Well I guess if you’re disappointed by him I can’t really argue against that. It’s just that AFO has been carrying the villain side of things since the Tartarus breakout and I feel he has earned his status as the top villain
So coming back after reading through the whole Iron Might battle All Might does face AFO in the new suit and fights him. He's kinda winning until he isn't. Then Stain arrives to help and they're kinda winning until AFO pulls another quirk out of his ass to counter Stain's quirk. He then kills (allegedly) Stain and steals his quirk. AFO arrives with All Might to where Deku and Shigaraki are and he's about to rip All Might in half. Right before he can, Bakugo gets revived and now he's gonna fight AFO. Yes, All Might survives by sheer fucking luck There's a lot more to talk about before and after the fight but regardless, wtf
If all might dies here (in which would be the worst thing to happen), then all for one should fall also by deku shortly after as they are both connected
How tf is the iron might suit created? So you can artificially mjmic quirks with pure technology, then why tf was there no iron man like character in mha?
Money + tech like that is probably completely new and wasn't known to exist even by heroes. For all we can tell, this may be the first time tech was used like this.
Honestly, we can't say that the armor ruins his message until we see whether it can even contend with prime AFO or not. If it can then the message is indeed ruined. You have very logical points though.
@@twicejaeger6997I think the series has always had a problematic tone with ideas of self sacrifice. From Deku to Kirishima to Bakugo to All Might to Nana, the series always touches on the idea of supreme self sacrifice being a bad thing, but never fully commits to it. However, as for this being "out of nowhere regression", I don't think thats the case. 326 and 327 completely reoriented All Might's character back to being on this path. In 327, it wasn't just one line of dialogue which indicated he planned to get back into action, it was his entire internal. Literally all of it was about how he was going to become a piece on the board again and reach the same heights as his pupils. This is a very different direction from Aizawa's speech to All might, which the series sort of thoroughly condemns as being kind of worthless advice by the time that he encounters stain. Funnily enough, Aizawa's advice is shown to be completely inadequate at relieving All Might's anxiety about his self worth.
Now that this event is basically over, I WISH hologram-All Might would‘ve been a thing. Hearing this, I literally blurted out „That would be amazing“ immediately. It would‘ve been so cool
This video was very well made, as for the events that were shown in Chapter 386 I have split feelings on, it was pretty much guaranteed that if All Might was to fight one more time it would be in the Finale though I was always worried that if it came to that it would be slanted plot wise being that A.) it would over shadow the importance of Kamino’s Fight being that it would be epic but not that story crucial/impactful. Or B.) it would be really underwhelming and All Might would most likely die and it would seem pointless or worthless with the exception that it was used to kill All Might. I’m not really sure how this one will turn out though currently it looks like it might be a weird mix of the two. On another note I think this is some kind of Plot Loaded Gun being that back in the School Festival arc we had All Might tell Midoriya not to over rely on Support Items being that he himself has seen many pro heroes fail because they had to much reliance on Support Items, so it seems that if they call back to that he’ll probably die. Also as for Support Items bolstering someone, with how they brought back the Gauntlets from Two Heroes I thought it would have been more likely that All Might’s Suitcase would’ve had Dave’s Masterpiece (a rebuilt version) being that they said it itself can make someone and their Quirk 20 Times Stronger then what they once were and since it was All For One in his Prime accentually they could of had Pseudo Prime All Might thanks to that Support Item. Though those are just my thoughts. =]
I'm actually willing to defend All Might in this regard in that despite his presence alone being enough, for someone like him who once acted because he felt powerless, being a pedestal wouldn't sit right with "Toshinori Yagi". Just as some actual veterans would heroically take up arms once more for the sake of defending the country they once protected, Toshinori wants to do more than sit on his ass. At the same time, while I still agree that a lot of MHA's themes and plots have long since been thrown out the window, All Might probably believe that a relic like himself isn't needed anymore since people like Midoriya and the rest of Class A (because shounen reasons) "are there". But that still doesn't mean he can sit and do nothing. AT THE VERY BEST, both of them die in their fight to try and symbolize the inevitable death of the old so the conflict can actually focus on Shigaraki and Midoriya. Also, I don't want to put any blame on Horikoshi because I feel like it's more his editor's fault than anything. In that the decline in MHA's pacing and storytelling started to be noticeable after Horikoshi's previous editor was replaced with an infamously strict one. The previous editor oversaw the Festival Arc, the MVA Arc, the Endeavor Arc, and half of the War Arc, which we know is the height of MHA's worldbuilding, pacing, AND storytelling. Of course, some of those arcs ended up covering some controversial topics to the Japanese audience... like to them, they were REALLY controversial. So it would be reasonable for the publisher to try and stave off any further controversy and "punish" the culprit but continue the popular series by sticking them with an incredibly strict editor that's been known to tailor stories to his own ideals causing the axe the fall on 3 very promising series in the past. But news flew around that that editor got replaced a short while ago, and the first thing that Horikoshi really did (as in it was almost literally 1-2 chapters after the news was released) was kill Bakugou. A fan favorite character and something that's not really practiced by very popular mainstream shounen anymore. So chances are, they put Horikoshi on a leash during the War arc, and when they decided to loosen it, Horikoshi immediately pissed them off. I don't want to throw Horikoshi under the bus if it's possible that multiple controversies basically led to management intervening. And Horikoshi probably can't do anything because of his contract. So if anything, I blame his editor instead of him. Because no person can honestly just bust out the levels of detail in storytelling found in MVA and then proceed to follow up with Villain Hunt. It's too sharp of a fall and too drastic of a change, it just doesn't happen without a reason. All Might should've died at Shigaraki's hands, but I can see that Horikoshi is trying to deal with the hand he's been dealt. Because it'd be even more ridiculous if All Might showed up in the middle of Shigaraki's fight. Edit: One more thing I want to add, is that at the very least I want to say that Horikoshi has managed to nearly perfect character development with "progression through regression". And Shigaraki and All Might are the best examples of that practice, while Midoriya kind of falls a little flat in this regard. What I mean by this, is that sometimes a great character isn't "complicated" but can also be simple. So there are times when characters are trying hard to be engaging through "complexity" when at times it can be as simple as returning to the basics. For Shigaraki, he had tried to hard before MVA to be some schemer/mafia boss type of villain. The kind of villain with a strong motive that "justifies" his actions allowing for a morally gray conflict. But the issue was that that wasn't Shigaraki's style. Justification is only an excuse, underhanded tricks are only proof of weakness, in the end, everything was just a mask for one's inherent desire to destroy, and no one truly needs "justification" to do whatever they want. So Shigaraki destroyed that mask, seeking to destroy simply because he wants to destroy, and he won't lie about that anymore. And just like that, all that "complexity" is thrown out the window and what takes its place is a truly ruthless and unstoppable force of death and destruction, acting purely out of satisfaction. There is no reason. With All Might, having become quirkless once more, is now an older reflection of his past self. In the same regard, he's "regressed" to his reckless youth and driven by his desire to do something rather than nothing, even if he has no power at all. In a way, his stand here is further proof of his unwavering spirit and metaphorical return to true heroism. In a sense, all his experience and views as a professional hero is now "regressed" back to its origin, the burning desire to help. And to be honest, it just fits All Might. But I won't lie though, I know this same thing was what was attempted for Midoriya, what with the whole "I want to save the crying Shigaraki", but it _really_ didn't land. At least it worked for Shigaraki and All Might.
Even before there were issues, but there were some good things as well and the issues were never to this extent. I also blame a lot of outside interference for the most part from the bad editors to the higher ups to the toxic fanbase that kept on twisting his arm, and sadly his health is getting worse and worse.
@@jeffali5157 If I were Horikoshi, I would completely understand killing a fan-favorite character the moment the publishers took off the muzzle. A huge "F U" to the "fans" that forced his work to be altered and the publishers who listened to those "fans" and made it happen. I won't blame the audience too much though, considering that even they complained about how MVA was treated during the airing of Season 5. Even some of the people working in production complained showing that while the cause might be due to some cultural issues that'd take way too long to analyze, it might just be more "controversial" to the higher-ups, who might not approve of what's being published for the audience.
Frankly that's a very petty thing to do. Angering both the consumers and managers just because the story was altered instead of making the most out of the altered story is a really bad decision.
@@nobuffer101 it’s a shame cause while act 1 and 2 weren’t spectacular, there were still great moments and much higher potential and yet this final act squandered so much to the point where I just don’t care about the series anymore aside from at least the Todoroki family plotline.
To be fair, if you wrote a story that was essentially a cautionary tale of the duality of heroism and villainy, but then audience reception and management don't like the in-depth story you're trying to write, so after you've established everything, you're forced to throw it out the window because there's no such thing as "grey" in the black and white of heroes and villains. Everything is now somehow AFO's fault and _definitely_ not caused by the inevitable consequences of their superhero society, sideline the best character (Shigaraki) for the final arc, over-glorify heroism, and essentially just support the message your story was actually against. Anyone would be mad if they couldn't be allowed to write the story they wanted to write. Seriously, the whole message of MHA was that heroes create villains, and a society that exploits heroism by extension, creates villains. And a society that blindly allows this to happen, or even worse, ignores the problems it creates and only offers solutions that makes things worse, probably isn't one worth protecting. Their "superhero society" generated a "supervillain society". That entire message gets thrown out the window because "Everything was all part of AFO's plan." Society isn't at fault, AFO is. The heroes are always right because they are "heroes". Realistic problems cannot be solved by naive ideals. But now the story says otherwise. There is no longer a gray line that puts the heroes and villains on equal ground, which made the entire conflict incredibly engaging. Now the story, and by extension, the anime, want to focus and glorify the very same heroic actions that gave birth to the villains. Because management won't let Horikoshi focus on the villains and instead glorify heroism, the cycle only ever continues. MHA, by an ironic twist of fate, became a victim of its own "heroism". Edit: Don't get me wrong though, there are most likely plenty of times that Horikoshi probably did the best with his situation. Nagant, Toga's house, even Bakugou's apology, there are plenty of times where that really human side of Horikoshi's writing is present. But when management is basically breathing down you're neck for years because the audience wants you to glorify the heroes and encourage what you were warning against, and there's no escape. The stress can build up, and the moment you get a second of freedom you express your frustrations knowing full well it'd be undone, by killing a fan favorite character, and then bringing him back. Horikoshi can't write the intense story he wants to write but is forced to continue writing a mediocre one. The only moments of creative freedom he probably gets now is few and far between. So I can understand giving it your all in those brief moments. Because there really seems to be a drastic difference in expression and narrative for certain chapters, and the ones that shine seems more akin to the kind of detail and passion Horikoshi had during MVA. But again, those moments rare, but surprisingly noticeable.
I like seeing everyone crap on one scene that has no story to it yet. People, he is clearly not trying to stop AFO, he’s trying to buy time. And we don’t know how this fight will play out, so maybe give it some time before hating on it. Also, it is BETTER FOR HIM TO DIE NOW and complete OFA to support Deku in the vestige world than give a sappy, probably cheesy, “I believe in you” speech.
my biggest problem is there’s an easy fix to this if the writer I’m not even going to try and say his name for voice to chat had just gotten rid of all for one win. Oh my lost one for all narratively. This scene would not be necessary at all, and it would fit with the theme of the younger generation, fixing the problems that the older generation fucked up. Unfortunately, the writer could not let go of all for one.
All Might fight def is there to kill him off, If I want to cope and say this fight is only going to further solidify the “Not all are born equal” statement they make since the beginning then I can. But this final fight is probably going to act as the final candle of old ideologies dying out and these characters finally coming to a end. Hope to god that All Might doesnt do anything significant but dying because if a SUPPORT ITEM does damage to the demon lord then we’re fucked story wise
@cokelover-nb1qz Money. Neo technology. (That suit is probably not even a year old) Resources. The war is going on. That makes it difficult to mass produce.
@@luizmarinho6138 I agree… but that means “your final villian” is not intimidating. And idc if you like or love the series as an author myself, there is no hype or build up to any of this as he explained. The war is so rushed. The Hetromorph racism came of nowhere and ended. Lizard guy off screened got turned into that dummy and he was one of the cool ones. Idk. I’ll see how this all ends, but yes Iron Might is not hype or built up either
Nothing will stop all might from trying to buy time when the fate of the world depends on it no matter if he’s in a mech i don’t think you know who all might is
3)this chapter brings too many questions now:why on earth didnt they used it before? And why only all might should use it? This makes military looks dumb.
Hori is the master of bringing up complex conflicts and falling on his face with resolutions. It seems his moral resolutions all center around "because it's cool".
You know what's funny? All might arc of studying to support these children even without his quirk was the PERFECT beginning for an arc about him unveiling the corruption that was happening in the hero association but he was too busy or focused to see it previously. For fuck sake, he even have a COP best friend that could work with him in this task.
I would agree with everything in this video if All Might just has a straight up slugfest with AFO here with no further nuance to it. But this video feels a bit premature. I'd wait and see how this plays out before I released this video if I were you. This doesn't feel wreckless to me yet like his earlier work as AM. They hammer home how important it is AFO doesn't meet up with shiggy and that there's no one around who's capable of fighting atm. And this is the final battle, not a meaningless bank robbery. If AM holds AFO here for a few extra minutes and buys time for other heros to rally then that's an incredibly wise and meaningful action, not a foolhardy throwing away of all his development like you frame it as.
I think you've missed the point of the video drastically. All Might going in front of the strongest man in the world with a suit of tin foil armor is bad for his character for every reason I listed throughout the 11 minute long video. It's reckless, it's suicidal, and goes against every bit of progression Toshinori has had in the story. There is almost no outcome here that makes this justifiable unless he's literally a hologram. They hammer home how important it is for AFO not to meet Shiggy, yet he's in warp range of Shiggy. There is no one around capable of fighting because Horikoshi made that the case to justify having All Might come here. The point is, I do not like the foundation. I don't like that Hori made the only choice All Might, because I don't want him to be here. I think this event happening in 99% of scenarios is a fundamental failure of his character. It feels even more reckless than All Might's previous work, because he is literally powerless against prime All for One. This to me DOES throw away all of his development.
The thing i hate most about him is that he said deku can't be a hero without a quirk, then all might literally fights the strongest villain without a quirk. Hypocrite
@@kenz3612 your second point is obvious af, a child would know that, I never said it wasn't expensive, however plenty of people are born rich or other pro heroes should have more than enough. especially during a war, more people should be using it if it exists. and with your third point, he's still a hypocrite regardless of if he said a few nice words after. and if it didn't exist, first of all, why's it just SUDDENLY exist? I refuse to believe the first version of the armor would put up even a 1 second fight against the strongest villains. and you can't say it was worked on for awhile, because if it was, it would have been mentioned, or we would have seen earlier, far weaker versions. and no, people never gave quirkless people a single thought, very clear from all might. so there's no reason to work on something to fix a problem nobody knows exists. so your points make no sense
@@Mido-shonun The suit got made in between both wars and it was so expensive All might could only make one of them. An average quirk less person wouldn't be rich enough to afford one component of that shit. Not to mention the suit had limited use so it's not profitable at all. In a capitalist society, there is no way the government would go to lengths this far to not gain anything
@@kenz3612 nobody said "average" person, idiot. so don't say something that is completely unrelated. and no, it was destroyed by all for one. he's the strongest villain, of course it was destroyed. and actually, they would profit from it. if you know anything about money, how shit is more expensive than what the cost to make it was. and in between wars would not be enough time to make something THAT powerful, but yeah it doesn't have to make sense. but if they can make it that strong, they could make it stronger with more time. and they'd get more heroes, or at least stronger heros. it benefits everyone and the original comment was about him being a hypocrite, not the armor. so if you wanna keep arguing, go to a different comment. I'm not replying to you anymore
@Mido-shonun All Might makes it a point in season 4 that relying too heavily on support gear would render one unable to act if it got disabled somehow during a fight. I imagine e.m.ps (like the ones used by Shigaraki) and similar devices would definitely do the job, and if quirkless suits began retal manufacture villans would definitely begin producing them. Secondly, immediately after All-Mights defeat at the hands of A.f.o, Bakugo swoops in to finish the job. Considering how one sided the previous fight was, we can assume that Bakugo is considerably more strong than the iron might suit. With Quirk doomsday, why bother investing in something that can be shown up by a highschool freshmen? When most people already have quirks, spending so much money to compensate for one doesn't make sense. Not to mention, All-Might was only able to buy and pilot the thing since hes been a pro for 30 odd years. Lastly, being a Hero isn't about a fancy mech suit or quirk for whatever, its about your will and desire to help others. Sure, a rich guy could commision a suit like what all might did, but when face with insurmountable odds he'll only be a Hero wether or not he does the right thing.
Not agreed but opinions exist after all. Sorry if my English isn't the best, not native speaker, but here I go: The reason for his arrival on the battlefield is simple: During the villain hunting arc, All Might feels useless because he can't help the apprentice he swore to protect, but when he meets Stain, he shows him how he cannot give up after everything he represented to many people, and what was All Might going to do, stand idly by? Of course not! It was clear that after that emotional encounter he had to act, not just reflect in silence, that would have felt really uncooked (that's the exact same situation Rei had in number 387). Also, during the villain hunt arc (again) He acts like a true hero without realizing it, since at the moment he faces 2 delinquents, alone and without QUIRK, he still shows his heroism and bravery despite everything. Stain served to show him that what he was doing was still worthy of admiration, as our favourite killer was embarrassed to see All Might like that and he indirectly explains to him that he's still a reference due to his efforts (or in other words, he shows him he still is an AMAZING hero) but he (All Might) cannot realize it due to the young man's situation.This encounter with Stain basically motivates him to keep getting better despite his state. I know that the series does not deal with this so directly, but we are not stupid and we do not need to be told ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING in our faces, because there are things that are simply deep, like this character, All Might. Also, when Deku saved Baku from the mud villain, he definetly prooved that quirkless people can be an admirable heroes. That impacted All Might, and now he shows what he learnt from that event. AND, this series has shown US multiple times quirkless characters being really heroic, like Mirio when fought Overhaul with 0 super powers, or how quirks can destroy lifes, just like Tenko Shimura's situation, so quirks are not always what their general image represents. These last 2 points may be silly, but damm, when I think about them, makes me admire how DEEP (again) this series is, so cool!
I feel like doing this kind of just makes it pointless. I get he shouldn’t just stand idly by, but there are better ways than to have an iron man moment against prime AFO. And besides a few things, the series really isn’t that deep dude especially nowadays with everything tossed aside for the most part so don’t get ahead of yourself
@@jeffali5157 Well I get your point, but I like the fact that All Might had to collaborate with the UA electrical accessories team for creating his iron armor, because it creates a certain situation, which is that so different people help each other, In addition, All Might claimed to work and support himself along the young ones of the academy, which causes secondary characters to have their own importance even in the final arc. That is one of the reasons why I love this series, the secondary characters shine a lot, they are really worth it and contribute a lot to the story, especially in the last arcs, and being able to see All Might collaborating with this people shows how much things have changed and how willing he is to work alongside the people who inspires every day and also to complete his goal, end this once and for all. Oh, and I'm saying it's deep for multiple reasons, not just because of this, as there are plently of plot conflicts that get really deep, like for an example: how Deku wants to save Tomura, is explained by himself, but still there are some other reasons that are beyond those words like their plot parallelism and such.
@@frontiersmodel4781 the secondary characters barley shine at all throughout the series aside from a few stand outs like endeavor. Having one moment doesn’t necessarily mean they are so important if the next part shows it’s all for nothing much less worth it cause again, they dont do much if at all except at the very end which is pretty shallow and lazy if you’re not gonna do much with them. And some parallels and themes are good but others needed a lot more workarounds.
Well this is the guy who ended his 100th chapter with a boob joke so clearly Horikoshi the mad ladss writing has reached such heights that us mortals can't comprehend it anymore.
I have complicated thoughts on this twist. I don’t really mind Iron Might itself. I think it could work as one final All Might hurrah (even though he did already have one). I think it’ll be fine in the anime. However most of your points in the video absolutely still stand. It’s quite confusing that they’d do this even if I won’t mind is that much. It’s one of those things we’re I don’t dislike it but I’m not really ok with it ether. It’s one of those “this is ok whatever but why?” Moments.
I started reading the manga after season 6's exciting cliff hanger only to be met with some of the worst twists and reveals in the series, i did like some things though, gentle's return was great in my opinion
Iron might would only make sense if he's just waiting him in a UA training field and uses random bots maybe with the principal help to stall him while he's blind with rage. They fight a little with all might escaping all the time and then AFO leaves before giving him the final blow cause shiragaki body is calling him for help
Thank you, I been following this from Season 1 all the way till 6 and after Season 5, I started wondering what was going on. I read the Star fight in the manga and then I wondered if it could get worst and... yeah... you saved me a lot of time here. I really do appreciate that.
Honestly, Season 5 was supposed to be good, but the directors of the anime ruined that season by swapping arc placements, cutting content, a dip in animation quality etc. the manga for that season is 100x better.
I have a question though. You mention all these are people and the different methods of heroism. Yet when looking at it I realized that they all did it to the best of their abilities. They utilized their skills and connections to perform acts of heroism. Did all might not do the same? I get that the whole passing of the torch is close to the story and what toshinori had as a teacher was another form of heroism, but was he wrong?
@@M.W.2 I'm sorry but that's incorrect. The new ground is coming from several heroes and students using their quirks and skills together to replace a technically complex series of separate blocks (as to stall Shigaraki's Quirk) and is very much not permanent (it's running off of Yaoyorozu's quirk and others, which will eventually exhaust the heroes), and there is no forcefield to my knowledge except the pumped up quirk of Gentle which is helping to hold it in the air. It *is* a rather sudden reveal, seeing as there was only a few chapters of buildup to it's usage, but it simply represents a new development in the technological capability of the society, maybe as they reach the Quirk Singularity point.
The further you get into the story the more you start to realise the only reason All Might didn't die in Kamino is because of Hori's allergy to killing the good guys
All Might is the best thing that ever happend in this anime, i dont really like this anime, but I fucking love All Might, it's mine 2nd fav character in all anime, and MHA is not even my like anime, but God damn how sad to see All Might getting ruined by it... It would be just better if Erie recovered him to his prime state, but he was without quirk, it would be so much better...
Probably would have been a far better anime if it kept AllMight as the main character with stories based around his leading the younger heroes and continuing to fight impossible odds/scenarios thought up by AFO.
@@GomZomNom I'm not talking One piece I'm talking about My hero academia. Look we all love All might who dose not. But he is not the MC Deku is. if you hate the MC you hate the whole show. And how did the show ruined All might.
6)if all for one loses,it makes the dark time that he controlled the society illogical, cause how is he weak now when in the past he was the strongest?
god i hope it is hologram might, not only it would kinda thematicly fit with all might's character arc, it could also be a really good reference to star wars the last jedi *spoilers* where luke uses a force projection to trick kylo ren, luke still dies, but i think that if all might could live would be a good twist on the reference and not just being a copy and paste
All might did not wore the Iron might armor to become all might again he wore that armor because without power he returned into the same child he was before . Toshinori's presence doesnt inspire greatness to the people araound him like how it was with all might . Because toshinori doesnt stand against the odds and says " i am here " if he just stand still he wouldnt achive a big thing , if he just went as a human he wouldnt achive anything . Him going with an armor that at least can hold him for few minutes is "he tried his best but failed" moment for all might . Reminding the world and himself that until you die its not over yet.
the worst part about it is, if you removed iron might and replaced it with a shot of endevour, dabi and shoto+iida as cliffhanger, it would’ve been a much better chapter. but sadly what we got instead was garbage
People randomly appearing on battlefield cause family issues lol. Half of this work it's the details on the distance and the importance of a warp quirk and she's just there randomly lol
I read the chapter the day it came out and it looks like to me that all for one looks excited to fight all night because he lost to him twice and is going to win this time for sure yeah it may kill all might but Deku would still be able to talk to him through one for all and might be able to use the buff mode which would be cool just saying
If All Might died, it absolutely should have happened at Kamino. Pass on the torch, while also supporting the theme of not just rushing in head-on - he did and he died, so in order to live, Deku has to find another way. MHA in general seems to be very reluctant about killing off characters, which really neuters any sense of stakes... plus, the cast is too big as is, we could stand to lose a few characters to give more space to develop the surviving ones.
I think all might is gonna die in this fight and join the one for all vestige world and give deku the boost to defeat shigaraki so thats prob why hes fucking all for one
Absolute banger of a video! The fact that AM from Chapter 1 told Izuku he couldn’t be a “Pro Hero” yet he as a quirkless a shell of a man can somehow use technology to face off against Prime AFO is just ridiculous and like you said spits in the face of not only Ch 1, but all of AM’s character from throughout acts 1 and 2 (plus VH Toshinori)
This is actually a fine take based on not knowing the whole story, I think that one thing you failed to do is look at the possibilities. This one instance is to define and resolve the questions "Can you be a hero with out a quirk." This also could help the story in SEVERAL different directions. One if all powers are lost this one fight shows that people don't have to despair. This also allows the second moment where if no quirk almighty can fight one of the strongest enemies with out a quick then literally anyone could and no one directly needs external heroes but to be a hero for themselves. Also you mention support gear shouldn't be able to do much? However what your failing to recognize is the truth that its not that "Support gear is trash" but that generally speaking there was no reason to use massive amounts of support gear as quirks were a massive power that was easy to access. Anytime in history that something is proven to be equal to or greater than the current best weapon or advancement, the old way is shelved. I see your frustration but I feel like this whole point boils down to "This isn't my hero academia, it didn't work out how I wanted it to and what I think is best." Cool, you can have that opinion, but it not our story. There are lots of interesting conclusions this could have but when you only focus on the negatives it gives little room for the story that could be.
@@dflaming1371 Disagree, but we will just have to see how the story plays out. I think Almights situation still elevated the story and easily gave bokugo a strong developmental point. Not to add it can still just be hinting to the fact you dont need a quirk to be a hero. Deku right now is losing all of his abilities and being brought back to a quirkless user. So at the end this still wasn't a horrible scene and the negative complaining in this video is still unwarranted.
I have to disagree with you on one thing: All Might winning this fight isn't the worst outcome. It is him dying. Yes, beating AFO or giving him trouble with that mecha suit is silly. But once that's done, All Might can go back to living a quiet life with new purpose. That way, his character arc still can be salvaged.
Yeah we spend months praying it wasn’t for this kind of bullshit and it turned out it was, and the tech wasn’t setup besides the briefcase… existing on a few panels so it’s still an asspull 👏🏻👏🏻
This manga like many others, grows beyond the rules it tries to establish early on and creates artificial relationships in some cheap attempt to stir the reader (Ochako and Toga, your relationship was ass). I don't expect much from this arc as it has been the worst of it, but there is in fact always a chance that the writer has something decent stored up for the reader that encompasses the growth of a character. He's done it before, Bakugo's team exercise comes to mind where he appears to not have learned from his past mistakes of working alone, only for the reader to later see that he's not only grown, he's putting it into practice and ends up shinning wonderfully. This could be a similar situation, fingers crossed at least.
This anime has honestly been a disappointment since S3 ended. Deku sucks, so much Deus Ex Machina, nothing of substance really happens, and the entire thing drags on FAR TOO LONG. They've been fighting the same fight in the manga now for over a year of our real life. But the story started to shit itself with all that crap about the rot in hero society (not stain's stuff who had a point) and so much underground whatever. It undermines All Might being a symbol of peace at all. I wish All Might became an actual mentor to Deku, but I can't recall one good thing Deku has learned either in philosophy, heroism, technique, strategy, etc. Deku keeps getting asspulls of powerups. Deku should have never had his stupid emo moment.
Bro they ruined whole Mha. Worst ending in my opinion. *Spoilers Ahead* Deku at the end becomes quirkless. I have seen so many people say he has a suit but the thing about that suit is any rich dude can get an exact replica or better version of that suit since he isn't iron man and didn't make it himself. With that he would hardly get in the top 100s in Japan only. Obviously this is just theory since this isn't real but honestly they should have made him quirkless from the start but with an actual spirit to do something about it. He just stood still and wanted to be a hero while being quirkless. He honestly didn't give quirkless people hope that they too can become a hero when he had to take power from someone else and when it was gone. He became that dude who peaked in highschool and he didn't even get uraraka and became a quirkless UA teacher whose friends won't even spare time to meet him.
Bad reading comprehension, half the heroes from his class were in the top 10(Bakugo, kirishima, todoroki, tokoyami etc) and THEY STILL TOOK 8 YEARS TO BUY THE SUIT, NO NORMAL "RICH GUY" WOULD EVEN DREAM OF BUYING IT Keep in mind that endeavor on his own was already rich AND HIS FRIENDS WERE LITERALLY BUSY, WHO ONLY ONE WHO HAD THE TIME TO TALK TO DEKU WAS BAKUGO, LEARN HOW TO READ FOR GODS SAKE And deku probably did get uraraka, we don't have conformation
@@suneethalankipalli8643 Bro he still not making it to top 10 and do you really think top money is in the hero profession? Obviously not. If there exists a suit that can rival the top ten in a realistic scenario the government would have its military be equipped with this shit and it's a suit it can be turned off or stolen it's basically a shit way to make him get back in the hero game. And by normal rich dude I mean any one half as wealthy as Momo's family will be able to buy one since she herself didn't contribute much. Also multiple villains can steal these suits if they are being mass produced in some factory so yea bud but he ain't making it he gonna be McDonald's cashier. Anyways it's still fiction at the end of the day, believe what you wanna believe. If you wanna believe he gonna be top 1 then go ahead. The ending is trash because it is where everyone makes their own cannon all this bullshit about him becoming the greatest hero but not getting fame, money and worse of all no partner bro became bitchless
God the amount of plot points that could of been solved lowkey right away, but were never used “to fix this let’s fix that” Personally let’s use eri as an example, her quirk is truly OP, let’s change her quirk a bit, instead of being a time goddess Her quirk is trigger essentially “we would also get an answer on where the duck trigger origins are from” Overhaul in this au found a way for trigger instead of powering up someone it instead does the polar opposite, gets rid of the quirk permanently But she can use her quirk to power up someone just like a certain someone Idk, just an example, probably a WAY better quirk that could suit her that’s not OP and can easily solve a plot point
Honestly it’s a shame, horokoshi didn’t make a new genre Where someone or something can instantly stop the new plot and a new one is born from it like a butterfly effecf
Goated video loved it asa 🔥 I felt that All might be a comparision to Ussop he is the is the same guy without a devil fruit just by being brave I taught something would go same with All might and show heroism
10 bucks says it really is just a distraction and AFO will drag All Might to Midoriya and Shigaraki, and will about to strike All Might down and it’ll trigger Bakugou to come back to life and he’ll rejoin the fight
I still find it funny how Captain America decided to become Iron Man.
It's more like Superman became Iron Man. Captain America ain't changing the weather with punches.
So... Iron Patriot, then? 😂
@@DankBlitzwing That is Norman Osborn usually, isn't it?
@@mr.p215 Yes.
What I hate the most about this plot twist is that it retroactively turns the moment in chapter 1 where he tells Midoriya that he can’t work as a quirkless hero since it’s far too dangerous for regular people into him somehow being wrong?
The entire reason he gave Deku OFA was BECAUSE he realized that’s all he was missing to be a pro hero, since he stepped into action when no one else (even pros and himself) would, having support items be good enough to fight any villains kinda ruins that message
But it was wrong since day one? Mineta's quirk, for example, can be entirely replaces by a support item, and as a demerit he is a little person. Quirkless people should have an advantage over him.
@@maokamui Who’s to say Mineta can’t just get a support item to amp his? This is literally what Bakugo’s gauntlets do. They store his SPECIFIC nitroglycerin sweat to recreate his blast at their strongest without down side of recoil damage. The thing is Bakugo CAN still opt into do it naturally.
The story never delves into the possibility of support item type heroes. Giving the impression that quirk users are just a whole another level. Support gear is made in mind of existing quirk to amp or “support” the user. Despite that All Might made a point to not rely on solely support gear regardless. What support item replicates what Mineta’s quirk? His quirk is actually decently versatile.
@@Jaymizuband yeah being a weak hero doesn't put you under a quiekless person. At the end of all a material like mineta grapes don't exist that can glue things with perfect stickiness for day and you would need to go around carrying a giant cartridge since you don't produce them in your body
Also if you can make a suit that can stop the strongest character in the verse for a few seconds no matter how expensive you could do the same to 90% of the villains in the series. Especially since most of them only have human level durability
It’s called learning lol
While I am 1000% against All Might dying at all, if he had to die, I'd much rather have him die saving someone's life on his own. No gear, no nothing. Just a man showing his students that true heroism is about who you are and not what you can do. Granted, half the final arc has been hammering home this message to the point that I'm tired of it, but if making All Might's death suck less I can deal with hearing it one more time.
Can we get a video on how mha ruined quirks? They went from genetic abilities that were similar to muscles to be trained, to literally whatever the plot needs
I doubt that’s enough for an entire video but i can definitely see him adress it on the inevitable act III retrospective
@@twicejaeger6997 I think you can easily fill 10 minutes with people like toga or even worse shigaraki getting a prime all might body QUIRKLESS and the making an Akira reference later on
@@M.W.2 that’s true it’s terrible but it represents how out of control things can get in a lot of situations.
It’ll never not be funny that quirks range from having…a tail to literal fucking reality manipulation 😂
@@raskult the problem is not the situation but the fact that we went from I have to train myself for a month in the forest to become a little harder or to control a bit more electricity to I'm mad so I can burn an entire city and manifest a new quirk on the fly
Yeah, I also noticed the passing of the torch being undone three times now. Hori wanted to do it but not really so gave each of the characters half.
All Might and Midoriya
AFO and Shigaraki
Endeavor and Shouto.
I guess the old generation isn't really done.
Endeavour ended up being a more relevant and developed character than his son and the protagonist lol
Slight Disagreement on shoto and Endeavor. Shoto did eclipse his pops in regards to be able to stop dabi. So in a sense, he did succeed in finding a successor to being a more well rounded hero than himself.
@@M.W.2 My point still stands tho. The passing of the torch is ass in this show.
@@TheYoungGeninSasuke I was supporting your point infact. Shoto arc basically ended in the sport festival to accept himself and then had a few good interaction with his father but everything with dabi after that is more endeavour problem than his since it's him that drove the boy to madness
More like Hori wants them all to go out in a blaze of glory... instead of accepting that their time in the limelight was done and it was time for the next generation to take the stage, taking their final bow as the curtain falls on their parts in this story... But why do that when we can get EXPLOSIONS, DESTRUCTION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY, DEATH, ANARCHY, AND ALL THE OTHER EDGY BULLSHIT THAT KIDS LOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
I honestly always expected this because of nighteye's prophecy. I never once considered AFO and All might to take a back seat from the story, especially AFO considering his selfish personality to just "give" shigaraki everything is a contridiction.
I do agree though that iron man all might is pretty damn stupid. I expected a quirkless all might trying to protect someone one last time, reiterating deku from chapter one, ending his life as a sacrifice.
All might being a selfless mentor helping deku and AFO'S selfish, clinging to his life to remain relevant through shigiraki's body was where I thought this going.
Afo vs all-might round 3 is kinda the opposite of the whole mentor thing from all might's side of the coin.
I just assumed he twisted fate just like deku
@@Chaospirex looking back it wasnt really Deku changing fate, it was Eri who continuously rewinded his injuries which kept him alive and strong. Either way, changing fate doesn't seem like something that could be easily done and with All Might recklessly going into battle in his state im pretty sure no one is trying to make sure the prophesy doesnt happen. its sad, really
@@vronji too bad that's not the narrative MHA took
The prophecy was always a Chekhov's gun to me since the whole message in the first few sagas were suppose to be about fighting against your own fate, that no matter how set in stone your worth in the eyes of society is you can still rise above it and change you destiny that had been forced upon you at birth.
To me this was the great oath that All Might and Deku made to each other, that no matter what the two of them would change their fates and in doing so become men better than their predecessors... But Hori decided that that message meant as much as the rest of the messages he threw away in pursuit of this anti-climactic... climactic confrontation between All Might and All For One.
@SleepyWolf Passing the torch is ass in this show man.
Maybe All Might could have gotten on an intercom and told people to hold out hope. As a sort of rallying cry for people to stand in AFO's way to stall him. I think that would be a better way for him to use his status. Or maybe he could have had professional connections to some of the pros who quit, and he could have asked them personally. I agree, once I think of Iron Might in that light, it is disappointing
We had him request foreign heroes for help at the start of the SNS arc (offscreen) having him do it on this arc to rally heroes into aiding Japan could have been a great moment
I thought it was a pretty great approach tbh. He had to hold back one for all, and he's the only one who OFA would be dumb enough to waste time trying to kill. Allmight had to come up with some realistic way to stop him, hence the iron man suit. The entire time you see Allmight getting wrecked and smiling and finally tries to blow himself up. He essentially took decades off OFAs life through his personality
If you actually read the story you’d know Deku is the one who inspired the retired heroes and if u think all might was gonna go get civilians murdered you are a dumbass!
So if they had iron man power armor then why is no one using them? The quality of one's quirk, or lack thereof, becomes pointless since anyone can put on a suit to make up for such limitations.
Yup, it’s really really stupid
Tbf we haven't even seen what the suit can do yet and how well it can even keep up with AFO. For all we know this is the only suit that exists and they might not have enough materials to make one for everyone.
We've already seen instances of quirkless people attempt to keep up with those with quirks by using support items, so I think it makes sense for the series to showcase the "ultimate support item". Plus, it follows the original theme of still being able to be a hero even without a quirk
@@waltz4life it invalidates that theme because it makes the whole matter pointless. The fact is that the suit does exist so why aren't there iron men flying about? Why hasn't the military made this as part of their standard equipment? Why aren't there companies building, developing, and selling these suits? With the existence of I-island, U.A. being turned into Autobot city, a flying battlefield, and stealth fighters with lasers and force fields there is really no good reason why these suits are not wide spread and why there was such a focus on flashy quirks when anyone can invalidate that by putting on a suit.
@@andresmarrero8666 like I said, maybe it's the only suit that's available or that can be made. We've yet to get any details about the suit so it doesn't really invalidate anything until we get an explanation. You're jumping the gun a bit imo. It could be a prototype and they haven't gotten around to making more of it yet. Even if more of the suit did exist, it doesn't invalidate flashy quirks but rather allows quirkless people a way to keep up in a quirk-centric society. And that's assuming the suit will even stand a chance against AFO
@@waltz4life and why are there no one doing that? If anyone can put on such a suit then the focus on flashy quirks shouldn't have been such a societal factor. You keep saying that the suit has limitations but that presumption has little traction due to what has been shown at this point. Makeshift self altering fortresses and flying battlefield very much invalidates the logistics of power armor. At the very least there is little reason as to why such technology is not held and utilized by the military and places like U.A.
To add oil to the fire, AM dying here would go against the lesson he learned in Kamino. Because back then he had the chance to permanently kill AFO but at the cost of his life. But AM remembered that Izuku still needed him in his life as a mentor and father figure and opted to stay alive for Izuku's sake. Dying at Kamino or now in the final arc would traumatize Izuku, reaffirm his belief that he should stayed alone to protect his loved ones. Also AM dying would come at the worst time for Izuku whose willpower could break making it easier for AFO or Shigaraki to steal OFA forever.
Problem is if he doesn’t do this (as far as all might’s knowledge goes) Shigi&Afo would jump Deku stealing Afo.Keep in mind All Might doesn’t even know now that Shigi is against Afo as well now and still thinks they are on the same side.So All Might is pretty much doing “It’s either basically my son getting his quirk stolen and dying or I die” knowing all might’s character which one do you think he would choose?As for the Iron suit we don’t even know what it is we just assuming Issa suit
It doesn’t go against the lesson he learned from Kamino and I think you missed multiple points here. Yes back than he knew Izuku still needed him, but now after all the training and guidance, All Might himself knows Deku has become more independent and doesn’t look back at him for approval anymore. At this point, it’s reassuring All Might that Deku can handle himself just fine now on his own. And true, All Might still opted to stay alive for Izuku’s sake and knew he still needed his guidance. But you also missed when All Might said these exact words, “I will protect your son! Even if it cost me my life!” And that’s exactly what he’s doing here. All Might had two options, either 1, stand back and do nothing while AFO and Shigaraki jump Deku, take OFA and kill him or Risk his life in order to protect him and keep AFO from interrupting his students fight. Now if we truly know All Might as a character and what he’s said in the past, which option do you think he would’ve chosen?
@@zhavierbrown4422 I think their issue isn't the internal logic but rather the situation happening at all.
You know what's embarrassing?
I didn't even notice All Might had a suit made entirely of support gear in that last panel of Ch 386. I legit thought All Might was just walking out to Talk no Jutsu AFO, to be followed by him failing miserably.
That means you are blind, it was soo clear and obvious. MHA really has lame fans that dont deserve this work
I know I originally wanted a Quirkless Hero but not like this
Not like this...not like this 😞
The suits all fun until afo uses the radio waves quirk and disables the electronics in allmights suits.
Unless afo is excited to fight allmight like madara, since both made a sinister smile when they met their nemesis
i forgor to mention this in the video. all for one literally can disable electronics 💀
Does he still have them in his prime form?
@@jeffali5157 only the body is rewinding not the quirk. Real question should be does the copied afo quirk has all the stolen quirks or not? but I think it is there since he has search
This man ain’t hating, he’s just suffering from seeing a good series nosedive into a garbage fire
That's too logical for 'em to fathom.
Any criticism to them means hating
@@jeffali5157 to any anime fan in general
Nah he's just dumb
MHA was never that good to begin with, but the downfall is still insane. Horikoshi's stupidity is really generational
- Be strongest hero in mha
- Beat strongest villain in mha
- Become quirkless
-???
- Die
Wait wasn't all might the one to tell midoriya not to rely on support gear too much?
Extremely sad that MHA has just become "Keys Jingling ASMR: The Manga" at this point.
The way my two favorite characters (Shigaraki and Twice) came back months ago on” hype cliffhanger” and have yet to do a single substancial thing because we kept focusing on AFO drives me insane
@@twicejaeger6997 I don't think Twice came back though? I'm pretty sure that was just Toga using her quirk to turn into Twice
Yeah i know but what i mean is that his character (or well, his quirk) is currently playing a role in the narrative but it hasn’t been explored nearly as much as it should
Deku really could have been a hero while quirk less, he just needed lots of money, or somehow meet hatsume way earlier to get his Iron Deku suit
@DON'T VOTE FOR PEDRO!!! oh yeah, Melissa would be cool as well Quirkless izuku meeting someone else who is Quirkless would be interesting
But he was for a second, when he saved Baku from the mud villain, he showed he had some heroism inside of him, or at least prooved something. That impacted All Might, and now he shows what he learnt from that event.
@DON'T VOTE FOR PEDRO!!! lmao
@planet Birthday, I think about this all the time. I would’ve hated deku too if he was always whining about wanting to become a hero but doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to make that dream possible. If he had just gone the support route and worked out a ton, he could’ve been a quirkless hero, but instead he just sat there studying heroes instead of actually doing something. I know we wouldn’t have a plot without OFA but it’s still something I think about all the time, especially when characters like Shinso are able to be heroes, despite not having quirks with crazy combat abilities.
Deku being quirkless is a terrible idea because his gadgets would get destroyed by villains such as Shigaraki and Dabi
I've been waiting for good All Might content in the manga for ages and this is what I have been given... well at least the art is gonna be fire.
Also, when was the last time he and Midoriya had an actual mentor-mentee conversation? Like... have they had a meaningful conversation at all since just after the lone wolf Deku arc??? I miss their little heart to heart moments.
They haven’t and it sucks so bad, all we got was their reunion on 327 which was SO lame cause neither of them addressed what led them to where they currently are
the twist for the sake of twist and because "it's damn cool !". What a bad author not caring about his manga anymore and themes in it.
Clearly either he doesn't care about it or doesn't know how a story works (themes, what characters acted and thinks, contrary behavior...etc).
That’s a fair argument, but do keep in mind that manga authors are usually treated pretty horribly and have terrible working schedules. I’m definitely disappointed with how the series is going too, but I can also understand why Horikoshi would want nothing but to just get the series over with so he can finally rest properly. Mangaka schedules sound like straight hell, and is almost always horrible for both physical and mental health. As an artist myself I can’t even imagine😀
The only reason horikoshi is making all might fight prime AFO is to make sure nighteye's foresight comes true about All might's death in a gruesome battle. Although i'm 70% sure All Might wont die and will be saved by Eri's reverse quirk making it so that the only way to challenge a future nighteye saw was through Eri's ability. I mean the whole reason AFO is even able to fight right now after having lost against Endeavor is because of Eri's quirk so i feel like its gonna be her quirk to save them all post war end
My big issue with all might and this moment is that he’s barely had any presence in this story post kamino and I get it he can’t fight anymore in a battle shonen but even when he didn’t in seasons 1-3 he still had a notable presence in guiding midoriya to new possibilities about hero work and or revealing stuff about this past that will become integral later, after kamino he’s just kinda there to occasionally talk about a plan for midoriyas quirks or the war and can I just say I never liked how in less than a year of his retirement the worlds on the verge of the apocalypse, nearly all his fellow heroes and students have repeatedly failed to subdue and or defeat the same villains they’ve been dealing with for years when they should by all means have more resources and had the element of surprise thanks to hawks? It just feels like all might was right the whole time, that the world did need him to be a nigh invincible demi god because everything post my villain academia has proven the world’s thoroughly screwed without him. Why trust this new generation of heroes? They suck and can’t do anything right because horikoshi keeps stacking the villains with off screen plot armor crap because we desperately want to be dragon ball z’s freeza fight and the giant war of naruto, I’m not mad it’s just depressing seeing a clever, simple yet subversive shonen just become a very generic, confusingly silly, wannabe db/naruto :(
This pretty much makes Deku’s point as well when he told the class they couldn’t keep up and low and behold, they really couldn’t.
@@jeffali5157 Exactly, because he’s not there bakugo dies (except he doesn’t? Because this arc has literally lost its mind) and everyone absolutely fails sure the non protag characters not finishing the job is normal for shonens but that doesn’t work either because midoriyas barely had any focus and hardly feels like a character anymore my hero is not dbz. It needs to stop acting like it is 😐
@@kingkirby1394 it sucks cause it had so much potential throughout the start and now we get this mess among other issues really makes it more and more dissatisfied and disappointing.
@@kingkirby1394wouldn't my hero was ever really subversive.
@@fightingmedialounge519Maybe not subversive, but season 1-4 was setup to not be just a shooty-punchy anime. We start in a world where people have powers, and we see a societal setup that works to keep that chaos minimal, but with its flaws more than hinted at.
We follow a bunch of starry eyed kids wanting to burst into the world, save the day and continue on.
Slowly, the complexities stack on. We see at USJ that villains may not be the easy targets we think. We see at the sports festival, first presented to just be a normal thing, might be a decently messed up aspect of Hero society. Then stain (hypocrite that he is) point blank brings up some issues with Heroes efficiency, and public perception.
As villain backstories start dropping, major issues like quirk discrimination, hands off civilians, heroes getting away with abuse and crimes, lacks if safeties for children coming in with superpowers, and a lack of help for "off" or "bad" quirks suddenly isn't a people slipping through the cracks problem, it's all a LARGE SCALE problem.
The Overhaul arc was the last breath before the plunge. He's a clear cut villain, nothing to feel bad for, but even with such clean cut morales at play, getting a mission together and Eri out is a complex, convoluted process.
Immediately after we meet Hawks, and his backstory and situation make it clear as day. Government forces, backed by societal expectation, are causing these issues or ignoring them in favor of keeping face and gaining personal power , setting a stage for selfish or anguished people to lash out.
This story was going to be subversive and convoluted, at the least touching on a variety of interpersonal and cultural problems, with the setup of everyone, from heroes to business class to civilians, needing to be Heroes to help the world as much as they could. It was about needing everyone, from All mightean power to the hackers to the office workers needing to work together abd do their best
The older generation gave a framework for peace, and the youth (hopefully at graduation and not all in their 15th year) now needed to fill the wall with intricatly cut stone.
Instead the torch never gets passed, the government is killed in 1 day before they answer for anything, and everyone is thrown into punchy-shooty fights with one of the most plot deviced villains I've ever heard of.
Themes get repeated (bakugo "dies" twice, we delay Shiggy in the war arc, with stars and stripes abd continually again with AFO, Hawks loses his feathers and almost dues, gets it back, an illusion of him dies, he comes back, and then his wings are finally taken, Deku keeps having to go rogue, All Might keeps repeating his arc, and I could go on) and more because Horikoshi completely abandoned his setup and had nowhere to go.
After finding your channel I started a reread of the series to see if your critics were on point. Damn I can't believe how bad it got and ruined all it's good points
All for One should've died at Kamino and just manipulated Shigaraki through the vestige realm. Him being alive and still doing practically nothing important besides taking Hawks' quirk bothers me
What do you mean by "nothing important"? AFO's done tons of stuff and is literally the forefront antagonist.
And Hawks could have easily lost his quirk on PLW 🤷🏻♂️ yeah the series would have been better off if we actually moved past AFO and let the conflict be completely Deku vs Shigaraki
@@nutellaninja4667 he has so much power and could have reasonably imposed himself as a villain so much more. He has done important things but he's just such a disappointment to me
@@3dsmaster537 Well I guess if you’re disappointed by him I can’t really argue against that.
It’s just that AFO has been carrying the villain side of things since the Tartarus breakout and I feel he has earned his status as the top villain
@@twicejaeger6997 Why?
Deku and Shigaraki’s conflict boils down to just punching.
So coming back after reading through the whole Iron Might battle
All Might does face AFO in the new suit and fights him. He's kinda winning until he isn't. Then Stain arrives to help and they're kinda winning until AFO pulls another quirk out of his ass to counter Stain's quirk. He then kills (allegedly) Stain and steals his quirk. AFO arrives with All Might to where Deku and Shigaraki are and he's about to rip All Might in half. Right before he can, Bakugo gets revived and now he's gonna fight AFO. Yes, All Might survives by sheer fucking luck
There's a lot more to talk about before and after the fight but regardless, wtf
If all might dies here (in which would be the worst thing to happen), then all for one should fall also by deku shortly after as they are both connected
How tf is the iron might suit created? So you can artificially mjmic quirks with pure technology, then why tf was there no iron man like character in mha?
Money?
Money + tech like that is probably completely new and wasn't known to exist even by heroes. For all we can tell, this may be the first time tech was used like this.
@@narindercatt2230and it makes sense that the number one hero would be the only person who could fund something like that
Honestly, we can't say that the armor ruins his message until we see whether it can even contend with prime AFO or not. If it can then the message is indeed ruined. You have very logical points though.
5:04
Bro, tons of people who read that line in 327 thought "he is probably going to do something that will get himself killed".
So… tons of people think All Might is unable to change and were proven right, yippee 🎉🎉 i love when characters refuse to develop
@@twicejaeger6997I think the series has always had a problematic tone with ideas of self sacrifice. From Deku to Kirishima to Bakugo to All Might to Nana, the series always touches on the idea of supreme self sacrifice being a bad thing, but never fully commits to it.
However, as for this being "out of nowhere regression", I don't think thats the case.
326 and 327 completely reoriented All Might's character back to being on this path.
In 327, it wasn't just one line of dialogue which indicated he planned to get back into action, it was his entire internal. Literally all of it was about how he was going to become a piece on the board again and reach the same heights as his pupils.
This is a very different direction from Aizawa's speech to All might, which the series sort of thoroughly condemns as being kind of worthless advice by the time that he encounters stain.
Funnily enough, Aizawa's advice is shown to be completely inadequate at relieving All Might's anxiety about his self worth.
@@twicejaeger6997 it's Naruto with Neji all over again
4:05 Ilda does heroism by also having a brother
All might would have been better off pulling a Hercule(DBZ) and galvanizing the people and restoring faith.
"iron might" lmfaoooo
You actually did the all might video nice!
Now that this event is basically over, I WISH hologram-All Might would‘ve been a thing. Hearing this, I literally blurted out „That would be amazing“ immediately. It would‘ve been so cool
And it would have been such an FU to AFO, too
This video was very well made, as for the events that were shown in Chapter 386 I have split feelings on, it was pretty much guaranteed that if All Might was to fight one more time it would be in the Finale though I was always worried that if it came to that it would be slanted plot wise being that
A.) it would over shadow the importance of Kamino’s Fight being that it would be epic but not that story crucial/impactful.
Or
B.) it would be really underwhelming and All Might would most likely die and it would seem pointless or worthless with the exception that it was used to kill All Might.
I’m not really sure how this one will turn out though currently it looks like it might be a weird mix of the two.
On another note I think this is some kind of Plot Loaded Gun being that back in the School Festival arc we had
All Might tell Midoriya not to over rely on Support Items being that he himself has seen many pro heroes fail because they had to much reliance on Support Items, so it seems that if they call back to that he’ll probably die.
Also as for Support Items bolstering someone, with how they brought back the Gauntlets from Two Heroes I thought it would have been more likely that All Might’s Suitcase would’ve had Dave’s Masterpiece (a rebuilt version) being that they said it itself can make someone and their Quirk 20 Times Stronger then what they once were and since it was
All For One in his Prime accentually they could of had Pseudo Prime All Might thanks to that Support Item.
Though those are just my thoughts. =]
I'm actually willing to defend All Might in this regard in that despite his presence alone being enough, for someone like him who once acted because he felt powerless, being a pedestal wouldn't sit right with "Toshinori Yagi". Just as some actual veterans would heroically take up arms once more for the sake of defending the country they once protected, Toshinori wants to do more than sit on his ass. At the same time, while I still agree that a lot of MHA's themes and plots have long since been thrown out the window, All Might probably believe that a relic like himself isn't needed anymore since people like Midoriya and the rest of Class A (because shounen reasons) "are there". But that still doesn't mean he can sit and do nothing. AT THE VERY BEST, both of them die in their fight to try and symbolize the inevitable death of the old so the conflict can actually focus on Shigaraki and Midoriya.
Also, I don't want to put any blame on Horikoshi because I feel like it's more his editor's fault than anything. In that the decline in MHA's pacing and storytelling started to be noticeable after Horikoshi's previous editor was replaced with an infamously strict one. The previous editor oversaw the Festival Arc, the MVA Arc, the Endeavor Arc, and half of the War Arc, which we know is the height of MHA's worldbuilding, pacing, AND storytelling. Of course, some of those arcs ended up covering some controversial topics to the Japanese audience... like to them, they were REALLY controversial. So it would be reasonable for the publisher to try and stave off any further controversy and "punish" the culprit but continue the popular series by sticking them with an incredibly strict editor that's been known to tailor stories to his own ideals causing the axe the fall on 3 very promising series in the past.
But news flew around that that editor got replaced a short while ago, and the first thing that Horikoshi really did (as in it was almost literally 1-2 chapters after the news was released) was kill Bakugou. A fan favorite character and something that's not really practiced by very popular mainstream shounen anymore. So chances are, they put Horikoshi on a leash during the War arc, and when they decided to loosen it, Horikoshi immediately pissed them off.
I don't want to throw Horikoshi under the bus if it's possible that multiple controversies basically led to management intervening. And Horikoshi probably can't do anything because of his contract. So if anything, I blame his editor instead of him. Because no person can honestly just bust out the levels of detail in storytelling found in MVA and then proceed to follow up with Villain Hunt. It's too sharp of a fall and too drastic of a change, it just doesn't happen without a reason.
All Might should've died at Shigaraki's hands, but I can see that Horikoshi is trying to deal with the hand he's been dealt. Because it'd be even more ridiculous if All Might showed up in the middle of Shigaraki's fight.
Edit: One more thing I want to add, is that at the very least I want to say that Horikoshi has managed to nearly perfect character development with "progression through regression". And Shigaraki and All Might are the best examples of that practice, while Midoriya kind of falls a little flat in this regard.
What I mean by this, is that sometimes a great character isn't "complicated" but can also be simple. So there are times when characters are trying hard to be engaging through "complexity" when at times it can be as simple as returning to the basics. For Shigaraki, he had tried to hard before MVA to be some schemer/mafia boss type of villain. The kind of villain with a strong motive that "justifies" his actions allowing for a morally gray conflict. But the issue was that that wasn't Shigaraki's style. Justification is only an excuse, underhanded tricks are only proof of weakness, in the end, everything was just a mask for one's inherent desire to destroy, and no one truly needs "justification" to do whatever they want. So Shigaraki destroyed that mask, seeking to destroy simply because he wants to destroy, and he won't lie about that anymore. And just like that, all that "complexity" is thrown out the window and what takes its place is a truly ruthless and unstoppable force of death and destruction, acting purely out of satisfaction. There is no reason.
With All Might, having become quirkless once more, is now an older reflection of his past self. In the same regard, he's "regressed" to his reckless youth and driven by his desire to do something rather than nothing, even if he has no power at all. In a way, his stand here is further proof of his unwavering spirit and metaphorical return to true heroism. In a sense, all his experience and views as a professional hero is now "regressed" back to its origin, the burning desire to help. And to be honest, it just fits All Might. But I won't lie though, I know this same thing was what was attempted for Midoriya, what with the whole "I want to save the crying Shigaraki", but it _really_ didn't land. At least it worked for Shigaraki and All Might.
Even before there were issues, but there were some good things as well and the issues were never to this extent. I also blame a lot of outside interference for the most part from the bad editors to the higher ups to the toxic fanbase that kept on twisting his arm, and sadly his health is getting worse and worse.
@@jeffali5157 If I were Horikoshi, I would completely understand killing a fan-favorite character the moment the publishers took off the muzzle.
A huge "F U" to the "fans" that forced his work to be altered and the publishers who listened to those "fans" and made it happen.
I won't blame the audience too much though, considering that even they complained about how MVA was treated during the airing of Season 5. Even some of the people working in production complained showing that while the cause might be due to some cultural issues that'd take way too long to analyze, it might just be more "controversial" to the higher-ups, who might not approve of what's being published for the audience.
Frankly that's a very petty thing to do. Angering both the consumers and managers just because the story was altered instead of making the most out of the altered story is a really bad decision.
@@nobuffer101 it’s a shame cause while act 1 and 2 weren’t spectacular, there were still great moments and much higher potential and yet this final act squandered so much to the point where I just don’t care about the series anymore aside from at least the Todoroki family plotline.
To be fair, if you wrote a story that was essentially a cautionary tale of the duality of heroism and villainy, but then audience reception and management don't like the in-depth story you're trying to write, so after you've established everything, you're forced to throw it out the window because there's no such thing as "grey" in the black and white of heroes and villains. Everything is now somehow AFO's fault and _definitely_ not caused by the inevitable consequences of their superhero society, sideline the best character (Shigaraki) for the final arc, over-glorify heroism, and essentially just support the message your story was actually against.
Anyone would be mad if they couldn't be allowed to write the story they wanted to write.
Seriously, the whole message of MHA was that heroes create villains, and a society that exploits heroism by extension, creates villains. And a society that blindly allows this to happen, or even worse, ignores the problems it creates and only offers solutions that makes things worse, probably isn't one worth protecting. Their "superhero society" generated a "supervillain society". That entire message gets thrown out the window because "Everything was all part of AFO's plan." Society isn't at fault, AFO is. The heroes are always right because they are "heroes". Realistic problems cannot be solved by naive ideals. But now the story says otherwise. There is no longer a gray line that puts the heroes and villains on equal ground, which made the entire conflict incredibly engaging. Now the story, and by extension, the anime, want to focus and glorify the very same heroic actions that gave birth to the villains. Because management won't let Horikoshi focus on the villains and instead glorify heroism, the cycle only ever continues.
MHA, by an ironic twist of fate, became a victim of its own "heroism".
Edit: Don't get me wrong though, there are most likely plenty of times that Horikoshi probably did the best with his situation. Nagant, Toga's house, even Bakugou's apology, there are plenty of times where that really human side of Horikoshi's writing is present. But when management is basically breathing down you're neck for years because the audience wants you to glorify the heroes and encourage what you were warning against, and there's no escape. The stress can build up, and the moment you get a second of freedom you express your frustrations knowing full well it'd be undone, by killing a fan favorite character, and then bringing him back. Horikoshi can't write the intense story he wants to write but is forced to continue writing a mediocre one. The only moments of creative freedom he probably gets now is few and far between. So I can understand giving it your all in those brief moments. Because there really seems to be a drastic difference in expression and narrative for certain chapters, and the ones that shine seems more akin to the kind of detail and passion Horikoshi had during MVA. But again, those moments rare, but surprisingly noticeable.
I like seeing everyone crap on one scene that has no story to it yet. People, he is clearly not trying to stop AFO, he’s trying to buy time. And we don’t know how this fight will play out, so maybe give it some time before hating on it. Also, it is BETTER FOR HIM TO DIE NOW and complete OFA to support Deku in the vestige world than give a sappy, probably cheesy, “I believe in you” speech.
8)afo after seeing all might in action again be like:you took the torch from you successor too? Lets go.
I ran out of comments.
Unpopular opinion: Mha was *always* bad.
my biggest problem is there’s an easy fix to this if the writer I’m not even going to try and say his name for voice to chat had just gotten rid of all for one win. Oh my lost one for all narratively. This scene would not be necessary at all, and it would fit with the theme of the younger generation, fixing the problems that the older generation fucked up. Unfortunately, the writer could not let go of all for one.
All Might fight def is there to kill him off, If I want to cope and say this fight is only going to further solidify the “Not all are born equal” statement they make since the beginning then I can. But this final fight is probably going to act as the final candle of old ideologies dying out and these characters finally coming to a end. Hope to god that All Might doesnt do anything significant but dying because if a SUPPORT ITEM does damage to the demon lord then we’re fucked story wise
All might:"you can not be a hero without a quirk"
Also all might: I will now be a hero without a quirk
@cokelover-nb1qz
Money.
Neo technology. (That suit is probably not even a year old)
Resources.
The war is going on. That makes it difficult to mass produce.
This rematch is not exciting…. For one you beat All for One twice: and once on panel already
All Might has a perfect score against All For One. I don't want that to be ruined by an unnecessary defeat.
@@luizmarinho6138 I agree… but that means “your final villian” is not intimidating. And idc if you like or love the series as an author myself, there is no hype or build up to any of this as he explained. The war is so rushed. The Hetromorph racism came of nowhere and ended. Lizard guy off screened got turned into that dummy and he was one of the cool ones. Idk. I’ll see how this all ends, but yes Iron Might is not hype or built up either
Nothing will stop all might from trying to buy time when the fate of the world depends on it no matter if he’s in a mech i don’t think you know who all might is
i actually got beers with him last week so...
3)this chapter brings too many questions now:why on earth didnt they used it before? And why only all might should use it? This makes military looks dumb.
Hori is the master of bringing up complex conflicts and falling on his face with resolutions.
It seems his moral resolutions all center around "because it's cool".
You have said in 27 words what I have spent essays saying.
You know what's funny? All might arc of studying to support these children even without his quirk was the PERFECT beginning for an arc about him unveiling the corruption that was happening in the hero association but he was too busy or focused to see it previously. For fuck sake, he even have a COP best friend that could work with him in this task.
I would say it supposed to represent that he's still sticks to his ideals in the end, but then it would've destroyed his development
I would agree with everything in this video if All Might just has a straight up slugfest with AFO here with no further nuance to it. But this video feels a bit premature. I'd wait and see how this plays out before I released this video if I were you. This doesn't feel wreckless to me yet like his earlier work as AM. They hammer home how important it is AFO doesn't meet up with shiggy and that there's no one around who's capable of fighting atm. And this is the final battle, not a meaningless bank robbery. If AM holds AFO here for a few extra minutes and buys time for other heros to rally then that's an incredibly wise and meaningful action, not a foolhardy throwing away of all his development like you frame it as.
I think you've missed the point of the video drastically.
All Might going in front of the strongest man in the world with a suit of tin foil armor is bad for his character for every reason I listed throughout the 11 minute long video. It's reckless, it's suicidal, and goes against every bit of progression Toshinori has had in the story. There is almost no outcome here that makes this justifiable unless he's literally a hologram. They hammer home how important it is for AFO not to meet Shiggy, yet he's in warp range of Shiggy. There is no one around capable of fighting because Horikoshi made that the case to justify having All Might come here. The point is, I do not like the foundation. I don't like that Hori made the only choice All Might, because I don't want him to be here. I think this event happening in 99% of scenarios is a fundamental failure of his character.
It feels even more reckless than All Might's previous work, because he is literally powerless against prime All for One. This to me DOES throw away all of his development.
The thing i hate most about him is that he said deku can't be a hero without a quirk, then all might literally fights the strongest villain without a quirk. Hypocrite
1. The suit didn't exist back then.
2. it's expensive asf.
3. Deku had changed all might's mind
@@kenz3612 your second point is obvious af, a child would know that, I never said it wasn't expensive, however plenty of people are born rich or other pro heroes should have more than enough. especially during a war, more people should be using it if it exists. and with your third point, he's still a hypocrite regardless of if he said a few nice words after. and if it didn't exist, first of all, why's it just SUDDENLY exist? I refuse to believe the first version of the armor would put up even a 1 second fight against the strongest villains.
and you can't say it was worked on for awhile, because if it was, it would have been mentioned, or we would have seen earlier, far weaker versions. and no, people never gave quirkless people a single thought, very clear from all might. so there's no reason to work on something to fix a problem nobody knows exists. so your points make no sense
@@Mido-shonun The suit got made in between both wars and it was so expensive All might could only make one of them. An average quirk less person wouldn't be rich enough to afford one component of that shit. Not to mention the suit had limited use so it's not profitable at all. In a capitalist society, there is no way the government would go to lengths this far to not gain anything
@@kenz3612 nobody said "average" person, idiot. so don't say something that is completely unrelated.
and no, it was destroyed by all for one. he's the strongest villain, of course it was destroyed.
and actually, they would profit from it. if you know anything about money, how shit is more expensive than what the cost to make it was.
and in between wars would not be enough time to make something THAT powerful, but yeah it doesn't have to make sense. but if they can make it that strong, they could make it stronger with more time.
and they'd get more heroes, or at least stronger heros. it benefits everyone
and the original comment was about him being a hypocrite, not the armor.
so if you wanna keep arguing, go to a different comment. I'm not replying to you anymore
@Mido-shonun All Might makes it a point in season 4 that relying too heavily on support gear would render one unable to act if it got disabled somehow during a fight. I imagine e.m.ps (like the ones used by Shigaraki) and similar devices would definitely do the job, and if quirkless suits began retal manufacture villans would definitely begin producing them.
Secondly, immediately after All-Mights defeat at the hands of A.f.o, Bakugo swoops in to finish the job. Considering how one sided the previous fight was, we can assume that Bakugo is considerably more strong than the iron might suit. With Quirk doomsday, why bother investing in something that can be shown up by a highschool freshmen? When most people already have quirks, spending so much money to compensate for one doesn't make sense. Not to mention, All-Might was only able to buy and pilot the thing since hes been a pro for 30 odd years.
Lastly, being a Hero isn't about a fancy mech suit or quirk for whatever, its about your will and desire to help others. Sure, a rich guy could commision a suit like what all might did, but when face with insurmountable odds he'll only be a Hero wether or not he does the right thing.
Not agreed but opinions exist after all.
Sorry if my English isn't the best, not native speaker, but here I go:
The reason for his arrival on the battlefield is simple: During the villain hunting arc, All Might feels useless because he can't help the apprentice he swore to protect, but when he meets Stain, he shows him how he cannot give up after everything he represented to many people, and what was All Might going to do, stand idly by? Of course not! It was clear that after that emotional encounter he had to act, not just reflect in silence, that would have felt really uncooked (that's the exact same situation Rei had in number 387). Also, during the villain hunt arc (again) He acts like a true hero without realizing it, since at the moment he faces 2 delinquents, alone and without QUIRK, he still shows his heroism and bravery despite everything. Stain served to show him that what he was doing was still worthy of admiration, as our favourite killer was embarrassed to see All Might like that and he indirectly explains to him that he's still a reference due to his efforts (or in other words, he shows him he still is an AMAZING hero) but he (All Might) cannot realize it due to the young man's situation.This encounter with Stain basically motivates him to keep getting better despite his state. I know that the series does not deal with this so directly, but we are not stupid and we do not need to be told ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING in our faces, because there are things that are simply deep, like this character, All Might.
Also, when Deku saved Baku from the mud villain, he definetly prooved that quirkless people can be an admirable heroes. That impacted All Might, and now he shows what he learnt from that event.
AND, this series has shown US multiple times quirkless characters being really heroic, like Mirio when fought Overhaul with 0 super powers, or how quirks can destroy lifes, just like Tenko Shimura's situation, so quirks are not always what their general image represents. These last 2 points may be silly, but damm, when I think about them, makes me admire how DEEP (again) this series is, so cool!
I feel like doing this kind of just makes it pointless. I get he shouldn’t just stand idly by, but there are better ways than to have an iron man moment against prime AFO. And besides a few things, the series really isn’t that deep dude especially nowadays with everything tossed aside for the most part so don’t get ahead of yourself
@@jeffali5157 Well I get your point, but I like the fact that All Might had to collaborate with the UA electrical accessories team for creating his iron armor, because it creates a certain situation, which is that so different people help each other, In addition, All Might claimed to work and support himself along the young ones of the academy, which causes secondary characters to have their own importance even in the final arc. That is one of the reasons why I love this series, the secondary characters shine a lot, they are really worth it and contribute a lot to the story, especially in the last arcs, and being able to see All Might collaborating with this people shows how much things have changed and how willing he is to work alongside the people who inspires every day and also to complete his goal, end this once and for all.
Oh, and I'm saying it's deep for multiple reasons, not just because of this, as there are plently of plot conflicts that get really deep, like for an example: how Deku wants to save Tomura, is explained by himself, but still there are some other reasons that are beyond those words like their plot parallelism and such.
@@frontiersmodel4781 the secondary characters barley shine at all throughout the series aside from a few stand outs like endeavor. Having one moment doesn’t necessarily mean they are so important if the next part shows it’s all for nothing much less worth it cause again, they dont do much if at all except at the very end which is pretty shallow and lazy if you’re not gonna do much with them. And some parallels and themes are good but others needed a lot more workarounds.
Well this is the guy who ended his 100th chapter with a boob joke so clearly Horikoshi the mad ladss writing has reached such heights that us mortals can't comprehend it anymore.
I have complicated thoughts on this twist. I don’t really mind Iron Might itself. I think it could work as one final All Might hurrah (even though he did already have one). I think it’ll be fine in the anime. However most of your points in the video absolutely still stand. It’s quite confusing that they’d do this even if I won’t mind is that much. It’s one of those things we’re I don’t dislike it but I’m not really ok with it ether. It’s one of those “this is ok whatever but why?” Moments.
I started reading the manga after season 6's exciting cliff hanger only to be met with some of the worst twists and reveals in the series, i did like some things though, gentle's return was great in my opinion
The last 3 episodes were rushed and underwhelming, but I felt they could bounce back a bit and yet it just nosedived even further
Mha still delivers a few good MOMENTS here and there, but the core is dead
Iron might would only make sense if he's just waiting him in a UA training field and uses random bots maybe with the principal help to stall him while he's blind with rage. They fight a little with all might escaping all the time and then AFO leaves before giving him the final blow cause shiragaki body is calling him for help
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Thank you, I been following this from Season 1 all the way till 6 and after Season 5, I started wondering what was going on. I read the Star fight in the manga and then I wondered if it could get worst and... yeah... you saved me a lot of time here. I really do appreciate that.
Honestly, Season 5 was supposed to be good, but the directors of the anime ruined that season by swapping arc placements, cutting content, a dip in animation quality etc. the manga for that season is 100x better.
yes please stop reading MHA, you don't deserve it
If he did the hologram thing he’d be pulling a megamind
More like a Luke Skywalker form The last jedi.
Megamind came out before and has higher writing quality
5)this suit is not a quirk and technology is a new power system in the story. Now,in the final arc they are going to use mechanics?
I have a question though. You mention all these are people and the different methods of heroism. Yet when looking at it I realized that they all did it to the best of their abilities. They utilized their skills and connections to perform acts of heroism. Did all might not do the same? I get that the whole passing of the torch is close to the story and what toshinori had as a teacher was another form of heroism, but was he wrong?
Honestly this combine with floating sky island whats with MHA shudden jump in technological investment
Floating sky island? What did I miss?
@@andresmarrero8666 the battlefield with shigaraki is a floating city with a forcefield and can permanently make new ground
@@M.W.2 where were they hiding that?
@@andresmarrero8666 Idk it probably came out of nowhere and nobody questions it whatsoever
@@M.W.2 I'm sorry but that's incorrect. The new ground is coming from several heroes and students using their quirks and skills together to replace a technically complex series of separate blocks (as to stall Shigaraki's Quirk) and is very much not permanent (it's running off of Yaoyorozu's quirk and others, which will eventually exhaust the heroes), and there is no forcefield to my knowledge except the pumped up quirk of Gentle which is helping to hold it in the air. It *is* a rather sudden reveal, seeing as there was only a few chapters of buildup to it's usage, but it simply represents a new development in the technological capability of the society, maybe as they reach the Quirk Singularity point.
The further you get into the story the more you start to realise the only reason All Might didn't die in Kamino is because of Hori's allergy to killing the good guys
Oof
3:33 no get Todoroki because that burn was even hotter than Dabi’s flames
“B-b-but Asa man it’s raw tho you’re just a hater and nitpicking.”
Anyways I’m a #REALALLMIGHTFAN GRAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
4)you can be a hero,as long as you have money.
All Might is the best thing that ever happend in this anime, i dont really like this anime, but I fucking love All Might, it's mine 2nd fav character in all anime, and MHA is not even my like anime, but God damn how sad to see All Might getting ruined by it... It would be just better if Erie recovered him to his prime state, but he was without quirk, it would be so much better...
Probably would have been a far better anime if it kept AllMight as the main character with stories based around his leading the younger heroes and continuing to fight impossible odds/scenarios thought up by AFO.
If you like the show only for All might than this show is not for you
@@SullivanDLuffy Yeah, One Piece is for me(Best Masterpiece of all time) , but All Might still one of my favorite characters.
@@GomZomNom I'm not talking One piece I'm talking about My hero academia. Look we all love All might who dose not. But he is not the MC Deku is. if you hate the MC you hate the whole show. And how did the show ruined All might.
@@SullivanDLuffy Yeah, I know. Just saying that its like that for me, I'm free to share my opinion, right?
Here's how to solve the problem with act 3. Just stop and instead turn breaking bad into a manga
TRUE
My Mid Academia vs Breaking Peak
Bakugo, we need to COOK
6)if all for one loses,it makes the dark time that he controlled the society illogical, cause how is he weak now when in the past he was the strongest?
god i hope it is hologram might, not only it would kinda thematicly fit with all might's character arc, it could also be a really good reference to star wars the last jedi *spoilers* where luke uses a force projection to trick kylo ren, luke still dies, but i think that if all might could live would be a good twist on the reference and not just being a copy and paste
Considering he was carrying the same suitcase as before and is in the middle of transforming, I really don’t think that’s gonna happen
@@jeffali5157 i know, but a man can hope for a better future
And new chapter they focus on dabi AGAIN! and give him an ice quirk for no reason and for false hype….mha got so bad dude
Actually the Dabi thing was ok. Even Asa said that on his twitter.
Nah the dabi stuff is actually really good
Nah.
I mean this is sad and all, I'm honestly sorry for your loss.
All might has an iron Man suit.
All might did not wore the Iron might armor to become all might again he wore that armor because without power he returned into the same child he was before . Toshinori's presence doesnt inspire greatness to the people araound him like how it was with all might . Because toshinori doesnt stand against the odds and says " i am here " if he just stand still he wouldnt achive a big thing , if he just went as a human he wouldnt achive anything . Him going with an armor that at least can hold him for few minutes is "he tried his best but failed" moment for all might . Reminding the world and himself that until you die its not over yet.
the worst part about it is, if you removed iron might and replaced it with a shot of endevour, dabi and shoto+iida as cliffhanger, it would’ve been a much better chapter.
but sadly what we got instead was garbage
People randomly appearing on battlefield cause family issues lol. Half of this work it's the details on the distance and the importance of a warp quirk and she's just there randomly lol
The show went from peak quality to throw-away.
I read the chapter the day it came out and it looks like to me that all for one looks excited to fight all night because he lost to him twice and is going to win this time for sure yeah it may kill all might but Deku would still be able to talk to him through one for all and might be able to use the buff mode which would be cool just saying
Would all might really be able to talk to deku cuz the one only reason the other can is cuz those quirk is connect to one for all
@@Lok1.1 He made the quirk his own which has been said in the anime and manga so yeah
If All Might died, it absolutely should have happened at Kamino. Pass on the torch, while also supporting the theme of not just rushing in head-on - he did and he died, so in order to live, Deku has to find another way. MHA in general seems to be very reluctant about killing off characters, which really neuters any sense of stakes... plus, the cast is too big as is, we could stand to lose a few characters to give more space to develop the surviving ones.
Well i dont think he is ruined but lets see whats gonna happen
Holo Might _better_ be real Hori I'm _begging_ you. This is the only time I'm asking you to ripoff Star Wars again🙏
I think all might is gonna die in this fight and join the one for all vestige world and give deku the boost to defeat shigaraki so thats prob why hes fucking all for one
Absolute banger of a video! The fact that AM from Chapter 1 told Izuku he couldn’t be a “Pro Hero” yet he as a quirkless a shell of a man can somehow use technology to face off against Prime AFO is just ridiculous and like you said spits in the face of not only Ch 1, but all of AM’s character from throughout acts 1 and 2 (plus VH Toshinori)
Bro you sound like penguinz0/ moist critical
I am glad I am not the only one who thinks that!
@@greatrieck 🥲
Thank you for cooking. People need to understand
This is actually a fine take based on not knowing the whole story, I think that one thing you failed to do is look at the possibilities. This one instance is to define and resolve the questions "Can you be a hero with out a quirk." This also could help the story in SEVERAL different directions. One if all powers are lost this one fight shows that people don't have to despair. This also allows the second moment where if no quirk almighty can fight one of the strongest enemies with out a quick then literally anyone could and no one directly needs external heroes but to be a hero for themselves.
Also you mention support gear shouldn't be able to do much? However what your failing to recognize is the truth that its not that "Support gear is trash" but that generally speaking there was no reason to use massive amounts of support gear as quirks were a massive power that was easy to access. Anytime in history that something is proven to be equal to or greater than the current best weapon or advancement, the old way is shelved.
I see your frustration but I feel like this whole point boils down to "This isn't my hero academia, it didn't work out how I wanted it to and what I think is best." Cool, you can have that opinion, but it not our story. There are lots of interesting conclusions this could have but when you only focus on the negatives it gives little room for the story that could be.
I am from the future. Mha didn't use any of the cool ideas you used here, and all the negatives from the video came true
@@dflaming1371 Disagree, but we will just have to see how the story plays out. I think Almights situation still elevated the story and easily gave bokugo a strong developmental point. Not to add it can still just be hinting to the fact you dont need a quirk to be a hero. Deku right now is losing all of his abilities and being brought back to a quirkless user. So at the end this still wasn't a horrible scene and the negative complaining in this video is still unwarranted.
Iron Might has abilities inspired by class 1-A and is fending off All For One. This isn’t good.
Nice super in depth analysis of All Might’s character, themes, and narrative. Unfortunately, that isn’t raw. However, Iron Might is raw!!🥸
I have to disagree with you on one thing: All Might winning this fight isn't the worst outcome. It is him dying.
Yes, beating AFO or giving him trouble with that mecha suit is silly. But once that's done, All Might can go back to living a quiet life with new purpose.
That way, his character arc still can be salvaged.
Yeah better to destroy the powerscaling than the character arc of one of the best characters in modern shonen
@@M.W.2 You're damn right. I don't give a fuck about the powerscaling. It is All Might I care about.
ANYONE with half a brain knew all might was carrying that briefcase around for a reason.
Yeah we spend months praying it wasn’t for this kind of bullshit and it turned out it was, and the tech wasn’t setup besides the briefcase… existing on a few panels so it’s still an asspull 👏🏻👏🏻
Alright, but consider: Mightbot.
This manga like many others, grows beyond the rules it tries to establish early on and creates artificial relationships in some cheap attempt to stir the reader (Ochako and Toga, your relationship was ass). I don't expect much from this arc as it has been the worst of it, but there is in fact always a chance that the writer has something decent stored up for the reader that encompasses the growth of a character.
He's done it before, Bakugo's team exercise comes to mind where he appears to not have learned from his past mistakes of working alone, only for the reader to later see that he's not only grown, he's putting it into practice and ends up shinning wonderfully. This could be a similar situation, fingers crossed at least.
Yooo Iron Might is so fire, 10/10 Arc Horikoshi cooking
This anime has honestly been a disappointment since S3 ended. Deku sucks, so much Deus Ex Machina, nothing of substance really happens, and the entire thing drags on FAR TOO LONG. They've been fighting the same fight in the manga now for over a year of our real life.
But the story started to shit itself with all that crap about the rot in hero society (not stain's stuff who had a point) and so much underground whatever. It undermines All Might being a symbol of peace at all.
I wish All Might became an actual mentor to Deku, but I can't recall one good thing Deku has learned either in philosophy, heroism, technique, strategy, etc. Deku keeps getting asspulls of powerups. Deku should have never had his stupid emo moment.
"there are other ways of being a hero..... But like not really tho"
Bro they ruined whole Mha. Worst ending in my opinion.
*Spoilers Ahead*
Deku at the end becomes quirkless. I have seen so many people say he has a suit but the thing about that suit is any rich dude can get an exact replica or better version of that suit since he isn't iron man and didn't make it himself. With that he would hardly get in the top 100s in Japan only. Obviously this is just theory since this isn't real but honestly they should have made him quirkless from the start but with an actual spirit to do something about it. He just stood still and wanted to be a hero while being quirkless. He honestly didn't give quirkless people hope that they too can become a hero when he had to take power from someone else and when it was gone. He became that dude who peaked in highschool and he didn't even get uraraka and became a quirkless UA teacher whose friends won't even spare time to meet him.
Bad reading comprehension, half the heroes from his class were in the top 10(Bakugo, kirishima, todoroki, tokoyami etc) and THEY STILL TOOK 8 YEARS TO BUY THE SUIT, NO NORMAL "RICH GUY" WOULD EVEN DREAM OF BUYING IT
Keep in mind that endeavor on his own was already rich
AND HIS FRIENDS WERE LITERALLY BUSY, WHO ONLY ONE WHO HAD THE TIME TO TALK TO DEKU WAS BAKUGO, LEARN HOW TO READ FOR GODS SAKE
And deku probably did get uraraka, we don't have conformation
@@suneethalankipalli8643 Bro he still not making it to top 10 and do you really think top money is in the hero profession? Obviously not. If there exists a suit that can rival the top ten in a realistic scenario the government would have its military be equipped with this shit and it's a suit it can be turned off or stolen it's basically a shit way to make him get back in the hero game. And by normal rich dude I mean any one half as wealthy as Momo's family will be able to buy one since she herself didn't contribute much. Also multiple villains can steal these suits if they are being mass produced in some factory so yea bud but he ain't making it he gonna be McDonald's cashier. Anyways it's still fiction at the end of the day, believe what you wanna believe. If you wanna believe he gonna be top 1 then go ahead. The ending is trash because it is where everyone makes their own cannon all this bullshit about him becoming the greatest hero but not getting fame, money and worse of all no partner bro became bitchless
It forshadowed in Black Hero Arc when he had the briefcase. If you are going to make bad faith analysis, at least pay attention to the story
Its interesting seeing you here😭
True!!!!!
Yup that's why in chapter 1 is foreshadowed with him telling deku he can't be a hero without using his quirk. Pay attention to the story lol
chill on bubba yall he's trolling 💀
@Roberto The Super Mutant wasn't that literally brought up in recent chapter itself?
God the amount of plot points that could of been solved lowkey right away, but were never used “to fix this let’s fix that”
Personally let’s use eri as an example, her quirk is truly OP, let’s change her quirk a bit, instead of being a time goddess
Her quirk is trigger essentially “we would also get an answer on where the duck trigger origins are from”
Overhaul in this au found a way for trigger instead of powering up someone it instead does the polar opposite, gets rid of the quirk permanently
But she can use her quirk to power up someone just like a certain someone
Idk, just an example, probably a WAY better quirk that could suit her that’s not OP and can easily solve a plot point
Honestly it’s a shame, horokoshi didn’t make a new genre
Where someone or something can instantly stop the new plot and a new one is born from it like a butterfly effecf
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Goated video loved it asa 🔥 I felt that All might be a comparision to Ussop he is the is the same guy without a devil fruit just by being brave I taught something would go same with All might and show heroism
honestly at this point mha has become has become a mess to read every chapter i read i feel more like wtf is happening
10 bucks says it really is just a distraction and AFO will drag All Might to Midoriya and Shigaraki, and will about to strike All Might down and it’ll trigger Bakugou to come back to life and he’ll rejoin the fight
2)All for one's face was: lets go. Im wasting more time.
I agree with everything here, but also, iron might is low key kinda cool to me