Succession’s Real Inspirations: What’s the Same and Different
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Succession has a knack for finding Shakespearean drama and dark hilarity in an honest reflection of today’s billionaires and media ecosystems. But how much of it is directly inspired by specific facts? It’s long been noticed that the Roy family's story seems to have some overlap with the real-life happenings of the Murdoch and Redstone families. Obviously, "Succession" is a work of fiction that goes far beyond these inspirations, and the creators have stated that the show isn't directly based on any one particular family, but let’s take a look at some of the interesting parallels.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Who inspired the Succession story?
01:27 Logan & Rupert Murdoch
02:20 Kendall & James/Lachlan Murdoch
03:45 Shiv & Elisabeth/Shari
05:38 Roman & James Murdoch
06:02 Connor & Prudence Murdoch
06:15 Frankli
07:47 The buyout attempts
08:40 The divorces
09:36 The scandals
12:13 The Roys & The Kennedys
12:36 Selling to an outsider
CREDITS
Executive Producers: Debra Minoff & Susannah McCullough
Chief Creative Director: Susannah McCullough
Associate Producer: Tyler Allen
Writer: Susannah McCullough
Narrator: Jessica Babineaux
Video Editor: Dan Wolff - บันเทิง
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iOS only..? No, just no. 🙄
you missed the astrology of the scorpion
Ios lol for the bots
The irony of Connor Roy and his Murdoch adjacent having only a few seconds dedicated to them in this video
Connor "less than 1%" Roy
Idk why anyone was surprised none of the kids got the company. Logan dangled it like a carrot in front of those kids. And they were constantly battling for his love, approval. They couldn’t stand him but as he lay dying they reverted right back to scared children..He was a broken man who turned around and broke everyone in his life. His kids, his wives, his employees, his mistresses…and that’s the legacy his kids will carry on.
I havent spoken with anyone who was surprised at that
Why are Fox so devoid of integrity, does it start at the top. What is it about billionaires, D Trump, R Murdoch, Ex Sir R Brierley, Jeffrey Edward Epstein, What have these guys got in common ?
Fun Fact: Director Adam McKay successfully advocated for shooting the series on 35mm film instead of digitally to give a more classical look
it was probably easier to just go with film, but the look can be replicated through settings. Nikon has it pretty good with their picture control, but thats "just" photography...
HBO has a couple of other shows shot on film Euphoria and The Idol. I really love the grainy look it just looks so much more iconic. They had to find creative ways to hide reels of film over the set for episode 3 it just shows how effortless they make it look when it’s very calculated down to the second.
@@kahaneckit is most definitely not easier to go with film. Aside from being very expensive, you have to be strategic in reloading your camera for filming, especially tricky during extended cuts (think the funeral scene).
I read that they run 3 cameras simultaneously to buy them time when one needs new film...in order to run a long sequence w/o interruption.
@milenabianca9787 just stop. The 2 "shows" you listed are glorified music videos that have zero reason to be involved in a discussion over Succession
I got a feeling that this real world families are far more despicable and scary than our lovely Roys
Did you see the documentary on Armie Hammer's family?
Chilling stuff.
You should've gone further:: The Pierce family mirrors the Sulzbergers who own the New York Times. Nan Pierce is Arthur Sulzberger.
The Take forgot another family comparison to the Roys: The Bluths from Arrested Development 😅
Saw the connections immediately
This show is a great study on narcissism and other personality disorders. Bunch of unhappy people
"Technology driven software" is a fascinating boomerang phrase.
What a tautology 😂
This show is all about growing up in a dysfunctional family where the head of the family has a psychological disorder called Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or NPD. The Roy children show all of the signs of generational trauma. The parent passes down insecurity and dysfunction to their children by grooming them for abuse through normalizing the abuse. Children rely upon their parents for safety and sustenance and cannot leave the abuse. Generally speaking, they develop coping mechanisms to deal with the abuse until they grow to adults when they internalize the abuse as a truth and repeat the abuse to the families they create. The children of NPD parents desperately yearn for approval and love from their parent, while the abusive parent uses conditional love to create a psychologically addictive pattern of acceptance and rejection. The show is called Succession not because of the question of who will run the media empire, but to point to the major theme of how NPD abuse gets passed from one generation to the next. It's the best show I've ever seen on this topic with King of the Hill being second best. If you are focused on liberals vs conservatives or specific sources of inspiration for characters or plot then you are missing the most impactful themes.
The take loves succession, they did mention in one of their videos that succession is about inheritance of generational trauma not company
You know that it can be both right lol
Perhaps you are still missing the big picture, does it not also work dialectically, ie in reverse to real life comparisons?
Is the show not also saying that the ruling elite are just people like us, dealing with the same family issues many of us deal with, the only difference is that due to their wealth, generational trauma from a specific family is now generational trauma for everyone.
@@SOLOcan Thanks. I'm not missing anything. But I do appreciate your point of view.
Cotton Hill?
I'll really miss this show, it's my favourite from 2023 so far, next to "The Last of Us." The acting and writing were definitely tremendous, all across the board.
SAME TOP 2!!!!!
@@inidaonedance yeah succession is one of the best shows ever. But the last of us?🤦♂️was awful in my opinion
I absolutely loved The Last Of Us, but I've only watched this through social media reaction. I think this is good too.
@@raymondsims7042it’s was ight but i see why you would feel that way
@@RamensFiasco yeah I’ll give it alright at best
The comparisons are absolutely insane. I should have noticed the 20th Century Fox thing but GoJo was a streaming service so they trickily made it so you wouldn't think of Fox that way.
From the "after episode", it's crazy that they didn't use some real life examples BECAUSE they thought people would find it too unbelievable!? Crazy lol
It's actually not very realistic in regards to how corporations work in America. CEO positions are rarely, if ever, passed down from one family member to another. That's because there's no reason for shareholders to assume that a person's children will be as good as their parent.
It's interesting, as I watch Knives Out again, I noticed so parallels between The Roy's and The Thrombey's.
This was phenomenal! Great show and video :)
I'M THE ELDEST BOY!!
I like how the real people look. Goes to show that yes, you may be profitting from capitalism the most but living in that competitive, abusive upper echelon of constantly putting out fires and keeping who knows what inhumane scandals from coming to the surface to apease shareholders and keeping the market stable has to be the most stressfull shit imaginable. No amount of money and plastic surgery will stop you from looking like a gargoyle in that environment.
4:00 Shine is huge btw. They produced Black Mirror.
I still stand by what I’ve said all along; that the Roys were HBO’s attempt to put the Lannisters in a modern context.
@@scottystcloud7086they are both not competent lmao, especially Cersei is hilariously dumb
Roman as Tyrion is quite fitting
@@scottystcloud7086the only power hungry in the Lannisters aside from Tywin was Cersei and I wouldnt call her competent Jamie never wanted to be king and neither did Tyrion i dont think the Lannister children cared for the family legacy as much as the Roys
@@supermodelwannaberoman is a bastard tyrion was noble. Don't you dare compare
@@supermodelwannabeAlthough I don’t know if I would exactly call Tyrion power hungry, he wants power and relinquish on it, unlike others (like Ned). He is used to the political and court life, so he thrives on it. He desperately wants to gain his father’s approval too, although he acts like he doesn’t want it, because he wants to succeed as lord of Casterly Rock and head of the Lannister name.
Was the Connor section cut short?
Nobody ever cares about Connor😂😂
The 1% of conheads will be furious 😡
Correction: The Roman Roy and James Murdoch comparison has an issue. You're talking about Lachlan Murdoch, not James.
No, Lachlan is the serious one who is now CEO of Fox
James didn’t own Rawkus Records but he was involved in the beginning as an investor.
What is the music playing during all the video?
Are any of Rupert’s kids as sympathetic as Kendall?
Thanks!
wait... i think you guys cut Connors section... wtf...
Everyone forgets Connor 😂😂😂😂😂
Best show ever
RELAX a bit mate. It’s one of the best without question. But the best show ever is reserved for only one show. And that’s THE WIRE. As great as succession issues it’s not even close to the wire
I would add two more media families in to the influences, both named Thomson: first there was DC Thomson, the Scottish media mogul based in Dundee (!), who famously clashed with Winston Churchill, then a MP for Dundee, in the 1922 general election.
Then there was Roy (!) Thomson, the Scots-Canadian who started his media empire in Scotland and expanded it to include over 200 newspapers including the Globe & Mail, the Times and Sunday Times. His son Kenneth sold the Times titles to Rupert Murdoch, and his son David acquired Reuters to form Thomson Reuters and is the richest person in Canada today.
At 5:39 you say James Murdoch but then put 2 photos up of Lachlan
And at 6:06 that’s Elizabeth, not Prudence 🙂
The part where you talk about Roman and James is showing Lachlan....so who is it?
8:55 this is too wild 😭😂
"well of course it's a fvcking minus!" 🤣 That Always cracks me up!
8:20
Theres no way those women were in that relationship for anything other than true love 😂
Her name was Mary Jo Kopechne and she was definitely not one of Ted Kennedy's "employees." She had worked on his late brother's presidential campaign.
Yep. they sort of stretched there.
It's Lock-lan lady.
I thought Succession is inspired from Mcmahon family
The football player that brought back long hair before all the black guys started rocking dreads?
@@troyevitt2437 no
I thought that at first too
The whole family is just plain terrible 😂
Roger Isles?
Logan was Scottish-Canadian 😅
Man, i still feel for my Kendall boy 😭
God they are just cruel evil people
It's pronounced Lock-lan not Lack-lan, do Americans not have the name Lachlan? It's very common here in Australia
WTF “lack-lin “ this Aussie LOL
But Lachlan did end up taking over after Murdoch stepped down.
This is pretty typical of some generational wealth.
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0:23 I don’t know who that old white man is but it sure ain’t Rupert Murdoch
6:07 and that’s Elisabeth, not Prudence :/ the forgotten child
Dystopian ass ad
lacklan LOL
I cannot get over your mispronunciation of “Lachlan”. Lock-lan, not lack-lan. It’s wild that you would even think that’s how it’s said, especially because you sometimes say it correctly
Warner is an inspiration for Royco. They own CNN & HBO. Any guess why the creators only mention Murdoch, founder of Fox and never Turner, founder of CNN?
Because Jesse Armstrong was not inspired by Warner. He was inspired by the story of the Murdoch family. It is not a biopic and he clearly followed the news and added elements in about other wealthy people in recent news stories.
Great job guys. Really miss your days of just reviewing content and not your take on various pop movements. Go back to that! :)
Lock-lin not Lack-lin
As an Australian, I can confidently speak on behalf of my country when I say sorry. Just sorry. To everyone. BUT, there is an enormous difference between the kids. eg While Lachlan Murdoch is a hard conservative, James Murdoch donated over half a million to the Biden campaign.
I don’t know the details on the Murdochs but furthering the Succession comparisons the Roys also worked with the Democratic candidates in case they won
People, just freaking google. Jesse Armstrong said it out loud many times: IT IS INSPIRED IN THE MURDOCH FAMILY.-
chill
The Shiv/Logan and Sandy/Sandi dynamics are heavily inspired by the relationship between the late Sumner Redstone and his daughter Shari. Armstrong has mentioned Redstone’s life being an inspiration for this show.
horrible ad at the middle of the video
Horrible? Horrible is a human corpse decomposing and getting slowly eaten by its pet cat. An ad isnt horrible
@@bigmanjesus8881okay edgelord
Berlusconi literally died today. He's Logan Roy, but he's also a funny clown and also the most important politician of the past 30 years
Not really
He's also the one who changed Italy for the worse.
@@DrGregoryHouseITthat really says something considering that was the country that gave us Mussolini
No, he's not 😂😂😂
Wow way to drop spoilers with very little time to stop the video
Any connection with Soros?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Kinda disappointing to find out all the drama was just a mishmash of real life people and scandals. Thought the writers were pretty clever until now.
At least I got to finish the series before realizing it was just a chatgpt prompt, "write me a script featuring the murdochs"
Another superficial take about Succession which is simply about wealthy families, all media outlets and not just one in particular. I think to stick Succession to the Murdochs does a great deservice to people who haven't seen the show. Succession is not about the Murdock, it is a masterpiece.
Yes it is. The writer wrote the first script called Murdoch and with years made modifications and renamed it succession.
Jesse Armstrong used to work for powerful people as part of their communications team. He worked in politics a lot. That’s why he can write about all sorts of powerful people. But the Murdoch family was his inspiration for this series. Being a journalist it only makes sense that he’d hate him hehe
@@bigsistahtips my point is that the show doesn't make it a point to make a biopic of this family and it's a lazy shortcut to make about the show. You said it, he scratched the original idea to make it into something that's not loosely based on some family because it can't stand on its own then. It would simply be referred to as the "Murdochs biopic".
I think to ignore the real-life parallels, and just call it a broad show, does Succession even more disservice. The great thing about a masterpiece, any masterpiece, is what it says about who people are.
@@robchuk4136 Bringing real life parallels creates a need to compare. "Is the show accurately depicting this?" Is the writer related to X, in philosophy of art class, we talked about how knowing more about an author makes the mind rationalize elements in the work of art but deteriorates our opinion of the work itself. We naturally want to think of it as some rendition of reality instead of seeing it as the work of art it is on its own. That's my 2 cents about this show, making it about the Murdochs is pointless when Succession has elements from Shakespeare, The Godfather, The Sopranos, and so many works of art. We saw in the last episode that the media empire serves as nothing but backdrop to a torn family like the millions of torn families we can relate to.
@@MJ-py7dm nothing in this video is incompatible with those other sources of inspiration. Art draws inspiration from many sources, so comparing the show to the Murdochs doesn't even preclude the Godfather or Shakespeare. The video simply focuses on a specific topic, the way one is expected to do in an essay. This channel has many videos about Succession that also mention the parallels to King Lear, for instance, so I really don't see what the problem is. They've never claimed that the show is nothing but a fictionalization of the Murdoch family, just that there are some similarities.
Succession is actually more inspired (if not based on) a mini-series from Austrian TV for Netflix in 2015 called "Altes Geld" (Old Money). The Murdock family just wished they had such intrigue...more under- than overwhelming, just like Succession the show. Well acted but overrated. 😂
How many seasons did it air for?
ATN in succession is a parody of ALL news outlets, not just FOX news. ATN pokes fun at MSNBC, CNN, etc.
The Roy family is a parody of ANY family dynasty: the karsdashians, royal family, etc
Not really, the inspiration for the Roy family and ATN were Fox News and the Murdoch's.Even Jesse Armstrong said that.
ATN is supposed to be a conservative or more right leaning cable news channel. That would mean in this story it would represent FOX.
No ATN is pretty clearly FOX news
Obviously this show draws inspiration from the Trump Fambly of which there are too few Marys. I'm Liberal Democrat but proudly buy my guitar strings and cables from Mitt Romney...well, from Guitar Center and Music & Arts, which are owned by Senator Romney's Bane Capital.
When he ran against Mr. Obama in 2012, I obviously supported POTUS' reelection, but I felt kinda bad for the Senator...Christian Conservatives were saying that they backed Mr. Romney so that the GOP could take back the White House, "But he follows a made-up religion"...pot, meet kettle.
Well, yes, we can think critically and see how Mormonism was invented in the USA by a convicted grifter, but how is MAINSTREAM Christianity any less "made-up"?
Wtf are you on about 😂
@@baxoutthebox5682 The showrunner said in an NPR interview on All Things Considered that "Succession" draws inspiration from the Trump fambly, and mentioned the fact that the Michael Douglas character in "Wall Street" did likewise.
Have you been following the Righteous Gemstones? Again, a show inspired by a famous fambly, this time the long-term plans of the Bakker family of the PTL club.
You need to look into how real events inspire shows. "There Will Be Blood" is rooted in the Teapot Dome Scandal.
Discontinue the lithium!!!