One MOVE from META - STARTER EDITION | Analyzing Upcoming Starter Community Day Pokémon

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    At the world pokemon championship, a huge move update was announced. This includes nerfing super strong moves like wing attack, counter, and steel wing. It also reduces the switch clock from 60 to 50 seconds.
    This week is Master League and Psychic Cup. Psychic Cup is a single typing great league that only allows pokemon with a psychic typing to complete.
    In this video we are looking at whether the starter pokemon getting their community day move will cause them to become meta in the great league

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  • @andersthew1se
    @andersthew1se หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    The reason sceptile doesn't use frenzy plant: leaf blade is the most broken move in the game with 35E 70D.

    • @danwg3368
      @danwg3368 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Fun fact: way back in gen 3, when Sceptile first came out, Leaf Blade was actually its signature move. But it's been 21 years since then, and Sceptile has been gracious enough to share its skills with all kinds of other grass-types throughout the last couple decades

    • @jessicamendoza9407
      @jessicamendoza9407 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would love to see a nerf to virizion

    • @aaronconlin
      @aaronconlin หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danwg336821 years??? Holy fuck.

    • @danwg3368
      @danwg3368 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaronconlin actually, they were first released in 2002, not 2003. I was too lazy to double check earlier lol. So gen 3 is actually 22 years old, which is way older than it feels like it is, IMO. I was still a single-digit age when I picked my first Torchic lol

    • @aaronconlin
      @aaronconlin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@danwg3368 Yeah come to think of it I think I was in 5th or 6th grade when I pulled my Team Magma’s Aggron from a pack. Everything after Gen. 1 still feels “new” somehow

  • @alfiesmullet1311
    @alfiesmullet1311 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Skeledirge also gets a signature move in the main game called torch song, which is a bit less power than flamethrower but boosts it's special attack, that might be better for it that blast burn in pogo.

    • @jaysongoldsborough9889
      @jaysongoldsborough9889 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All starters get a signiture move you silly

    • @jaysongoldsborough9889
      @jaysongoldsborough9889 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All starters from gen 8*

    • @jaysongoldsborough9889
      @jaysongoldsborough9889 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And 9

    • @alfiesmullet1311
      @alfiesmullet1311 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@jaysongoldsborough9889 ya but they don't all translate to pogo.. like what would flower trick do in this game where crits don't exist?

    • @jaysongoldsborough9889
      @jaysongoldsborough9889 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alfiesmullet1311 boost your attack as well maybe? Just like scald lowers your opponents attack

  • @davidfwooldridge3430
    @davidfwooldridge3430 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Torterra can learn Mud Slap, which would definitely make it useable.

    • @dacubanmofo
      @dacubanmofo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Give the boy respect. Torterra shouldn’t be stuck with only razor leaf

  • @Drengen10
    @Drengen10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Blastburn might not be prefered on skeledirge, because it means you can't do a bait + shadow ball with 100 energy.

  • @davidsk6567
    @davidsk6567 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Considering the cup going on right now, if girafarif gets astonish (does in main series) it could go crazy.

    • @xdifficultviper9916
      @xdifficultviper9916 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Astonish plus psychic fangs would make it a monster especially shadow

  • @brukguasasa8954
    @brukguasasa8954 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Karate chop Quaquaval would be insane

    • @philke30
      @philke30 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Came here to say this

    • @dacubanmofo
      @dacubanmofo หลายเดือนก่อน

      With aqua step to give a guarantee + 1

  • @TheRealMrAndrew
    @TheRealMrAndrew หลายเดือนก่อน

    If the future starter com days follow the trend of the last two years, an additional move will be added on to them, which could make them even better. For example, sparkling aria got added, spirit shackle, etc.

  • @CaseyBradshaw-xo7ig
    @CaseyBradshaw-xo7ig หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Niantic should hire you Dan to analyze movesets for all Pokemon to make it more balanced, seriously. It would be great to have some actual great grass and even electric.
    When I started playing POG in August, in PVP battles I was always wondering why there’s no good electric Pokemon since I quickly saw that GL was dominated by water types and I still don’t get how they don’t have anymore good electric options even if there is Togedmaru and Stunfisk for instance. It would be way more fun with more types of Pokemon to actually use against the top meta.

  • @nicoleg9979
    @nicoleg9979 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in depth analysis is dope. Learning so much and starting to be able to see this stuff myself!

  • @AgusLearnsPvP
    @AgusLearnsPvP หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Quaquaval has a signature type that is based on speed. If they translate that to a fast charging fast attack, it could get very interesting!

    • @omarholder9036
      @omarholder9036 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It needs it now that wing attack is nerfed. Like Greninja. Give it Aqua Step

    • @absolutelyunepic3072
      @absolutelyunepic3072 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bad fast move=unusable Pokemon. Everything depends on fast moves

  • @ky03tmoses18
    @ky03tmoses18 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meganium can learn mud slap and body slam. It'd basically make it a grass type Gastrodon. That might make up for EQ being so expensive. Mid slap, body slam, frenzy plant Meganium would probably be interesting.

  • @kitten8444
    @kitten8444 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    TLDR; gen 8 and 9 are the only starters who don’t have their moves yet. Skeledirge is the only Pokemon that will have play with the comm day move as it will become less bait dependent than disarming voice. Everyone else is just too glassy. There, saved everyone 30 minutes.

  • @coreywade1045
    @coreywade1045 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Dan! Check out Quaquaval if you give it Karate Chop and Hydro Cannon with Close Combat. It’s erm.. interesting to say the least.

  • @jacobvasquez6787
    @jacobvasquez6787 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey dan, in pvp poke to eliminate baiting in sims just get rid of the bait move and have it with one move so it goes straight that move

    • @kitten8444
      @kitten8444 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There’s a bait on/off/selective option. No idea what selective is.

  • @menandroplan1554
    @menandroplan1554 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Id argue Skeledirge doesnt need Blast Burn...its moveset already is damn good and has great coverage

    • @xdifficultviper9916
      @xdifficultviper9916 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the dark and dragon coverage is nice

  • @khaos288
    @khaos288 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the other creators "one move from meta" videos are interesting because they show things that are one move from meta. They don't spend a lot of time on "one move from still not being meta".

    • @gm-zf8nq
      @gm-zf8nq หลายเดือนก่อน

      They probably don't intend to make a lasting series from it. He's said this is going to be multiple videos.

    • @kitten8444
      @kitten8444 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah agreed. This video could have been 8 minutes by just glossing over Pokemon which are not 1 community day move away.

    • @connormartin1322
      @connormartin1322 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Disagree. I think there’s value in seeing and understanding why something doesn’t work.

  • @nait5340
    @nait5340 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "like, why woud you use anything other than feraligatr? i think that's what it comes down to."
    yep, true. niantic did a big mistake giving it claw.
    little fact at the side: in the base game feraligatr is considered one of the worst water starters of all time.

    • @Drippy_Blerd
      @Drippy_Blerd หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its always been my favorite water starter. Sheer Force is good on it. Makes Waterfalls hit hard af.

    • @ThomasoElg
      @ThomasoElg หลายเดือนก่อน

      and then you nerf counter to it....

  • @gm-zf8nq
    @gm-zf8nq หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quack might have ML Premier play as a shadow. Not that anyone is waiting around for that. That attack might hydro cannon palkia down with a good fast move.

  • @chaz9997
    @chaz9997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally get a better understanding of the stats... thank you

  • @EthanS151
    @EthanS151 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think your pronunciations are Meowtastic

  • @raymondocool694
    @raymondocool694 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Blastoise could benefit from Bubble, but it seems TPC removed it from the move pool 2 generations ago…

    • @barokmeca
      @barokmeca หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shouldn't matter, Karate Chop is no longer in the game.

    • @raymondocool694
      @raymondocool694 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@barokmeca oh really?! Interesting

  • @ThomasoElg
    @ThomasoElg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you can turn off bait when doing the sims. it does give you more accurate, but not 100%

  • @COZY_MONKE
    @COZY_MONKE หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love running skelderge it very weird to use but it’s quite fun but i haven’t ran it since the new season

  • @hibachikarp4707
    @hibachikarp4707 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hydrocannon will most likely be nerfed to 45 or 50 energy within a year due to feraligator dominance

    • @jaysongoldsborough9889
      @jaysongoldsborough9889 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hydro cannon wont be nerfed, as far as i know they have never changed these moves but what they can nerf is shadow claw

    • @jonathanclancy3059
      @jonathanclancy3059 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@jaysongoldsborough9889 hydro cannon was nerfed from 90 power to 80. According to Bulbapedia it was back in December 2019, I think mainly due to Swampert with old Mud Shot.

    • @jaysongoldsborough9889
      @jaysongoldsborough9889 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanclancy3059 damn lol

    • @ThomasoElg
      @ThomasoElg หลายเดือนก่อน

      i wouldnt say its Hydro cannon thats broken. Its fast move of the pokemon who has it thats broken.
      Shadow Claw, Water Shurkien, And Hydro was way more broken before current hydro cannon pokemon came into game

    • @mustardtigerbaaaaaam
      @mustardtigerbaaaaaam หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hopefully they just buff some counters to it

  • @joaquinnavajo3939
    @joaquinnavajo3939 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ninact should buff Blast burn and frenzy plant to be hydrocannon clones.
    And hydrocannon needs a nerf to 50 cost and increased damage to a 100.

  • @renehartmann1116
    @renehartmann1116 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sucker punch meowscarada would be interesting to take a look at 🤔

  • @holondrix3949
    @holondrix3949 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been trying to make Decidueye work for a while, and was ecstatic about the Astonish buff. But it just seems to go down too quickly sometimes. Could it possibly get better with an energy buff on Spirit Shackle?

  • @Kassul42
    @Kassul42 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shame about most of these.
    I have a greninja in the ultra league i love(don't have much on my UL roster though) and it's still pretty squishy there. Water Shuriken is amazingly fun, night slash bait, boost, and then hitting a hydro feels fantastic

  • @SameerAhmed-kn5dy
    @SameerAhmed-kn5dy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just wish they introduced some bulky mon coz we are getting com day for those mon who are very squishy recently we only got one thats clodsire and we know he is ranked1 now so they should introduced something like that

    • @davidsk6567
      @davidsk6567 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Corviknight should be coming soon. Same typing as skarmory and will get drill peck to have a cheaper move to pair with brave bird

    • @SameerAhmed-kn5dy
      @SameerAhmed-kn5dy หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@davidsk6567 we dont know the correct moveset yet what move can he get if he got steel wing than its waste so lets hope it will get a better fast and charge move

    • @davidsk6567
      @davidsk6567 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SameerAhmed-kn5dy we already know it's going to come with steel wing and air slash as fast moves. And then drill peck, brave bird and iron head as charge moves. Corviknight is in the game, just unreleased.
      While steel wing isnt great, at least it will actually have a move it can get to with drill peck. The typing and supposed stay product is really what might make it good. Irregardless it would be a single move away from being good.

  • @Duelerama90
    @Duelerama90 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Give Skeledirge a STAB fast attack (sClaw/hex). Give Cinderace double kick/trailblaze or something. Quaquaval...; I dunno, feather dance?

    • @somerandomyoutubeuser1232
      @somerandomyoutubeuser1232 หลายเดือนก่อน

      incinerate is a stab fast attack

    • @Duelerama90
      @Duelerama90 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@somerandomyoutubeuser1232 STAB **ghost fast attack, I meant. Ghost FA, burn & disarming, which is needed for dragons & dark.

  • @fujinowaka89
    @fujinowaka89 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Might sounds ludicrous but I hope I'll never have to use this thing as a meta pokemon as I find its design absolutely nightmarish

  • @Pokebattleleague
    @Pokebattleleague หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These new mons are no power creepers that's for sure lol

    • @nait5340
      @nait5340 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well, intelion has a higher attacks stat than mewtwo. guess you coud say they are power creeping when it comes to raids lol (at least compared to other starters).

    • @Pokebattleleague
      @Pokebattleleague หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nait5340 yeah I guess you could say it's kinda power creep just in a bad way

    • @nait5340
      @nait5340 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Pokebattleleague shadow intelion with hydro cannon woud be interesting. woud it oneshot most things? woud it survive long enough to even get there?

  • @tomleary4709
    @tomleary4709 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you keeping IVs for level 60? For example Umbreon and Talonflame max out below 2500 CP with perfect IVs. If there is level 60, maybe 5 15 15 would be 2500 CP.

    • @DanOttawaPOGO
      @DanOttawaPOGO  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tomleary4709 I usually keep stuff with zero attack and high defense and stamina so yes but it's not like I am planning for level 60, I just keep that stuff naturally

  • @ThomasoElg
    @ThomasoElg หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rillaboom need a really good fast move to be decent in ML

    • @davidsk6567
      @davidsk6567 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless niantic makes a new fast move, the best it has in the main series would be mud shot

    • @ThomasoElg
      @ThomasoElg หลายเดือนก่อน

      it learn some fast move that are in the game already, unless you say introduce a new move of thoase other move it can learn.

  • @ZakaryHandy
    @ZakaryHandy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why don’t you make this a series on the channel and have us do research and be like “hey analyze this mon, in the main series it learns x, y, and z”

  • @bryce37521
    @bryce37521 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ya know watching this blows my mind why are there not tools for this in the game it’s nuts like the main series always has a stats page to see each individual mons stats and everything god this game is a slack ass man lag everywhere all kinds of glitches gets hacked by a discord app nerfs remote raids plus raids are just straight broken right now like wtf do they not have money to pay programers like wtf is actually going on they treat this ip like a joke and they just continue to get to do whatever what the actual hell man

    • @bryce37521
      @bryce37521 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lolol mind you the main series games can be played on a toaster (ds series) holy like the longer I think the more things don’t add up whatsoever

  • @MrSinister718
    @MrSinister718 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Niantic should add another low cost NORMAL type move to the game to replace Body Slam. They have a pretty large pool to draw from. Slash, Retaliate, Double Hit, Fury Attack etc.
    That could help Samurott, and a lot of others who need to attack fast before dying.

  • @haryantowicaksono7026
    @haryantowicaksono7026 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Blastoise need shadow claw

    • @ThomasoElg
      @ThomasoElg หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      cant learn that in main series and GO is follow main series....

    • @ky03tmoses18
      @ky03tmoses18 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It can learn mud shot, but they nerfed it 😅

  • @tylerf6583
    @tylerf6583 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey

  • @tylero2112
    @tylero2112 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nerfing razor leaf was absurdly stupid

    • @bryce37521
      @bryce37521 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Na victreebell was insanely stupid

    • @absolutelyunepic3072
      @absolutelyunepic3072 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bryce37521victreebel never needed razor leaf after it got magical leaf. So it just screwed all of the other pokemon that were just okay with razor leaf.

    • @ky03tmoses18
      @ky03tmoses18 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@absolutelyunepic3072They need better fast moves. Old razor leaf was BS. Should've been nerfed sooner 🤷‍♂️