@@philliproberts6137 From what I can research, yes it is, some of the well rated mitre gauges such as the INCRA brand have gauges for 19mm width. I would of course, double check with whichever you are looking at buying first
Every single mitre gauge on both budget and more expensive tools is not good, unless you go for something like a Felder, most people get an aftermarket gauge or fettle the old one to suit. These Jobsite saws are never great on dust extraction.
Being French, it's very nice to have an equipment review with a nice English accent instead of an American one. And to hear you give measurements in the metric system: priceless!
Being American, I find it annoying when French people leave completely irrelevant comments within a table saw review. Of course, this is my personal opinion which means nothing, similar to your own.
@@genesishep Looks like someone need to take a minute haha. Perhaps go stand outside for a while and take a few deep breaths. Don't worry it's okay, people can prefer different accents than American, no need to spit your dummy out over it. 🤡🤡
@@DannysGalaxyTab Honestly? I don't believe there is a person in these comments who could raise a welt on my ass much less get me upset. I just felt like sharing my opinion similar to the OP. Just as they had the right to declare what sounds pleasing to their ear I had the right to state what annoys me. Was it particularly kind or polite? No, but considering they had already tossed politeness out the window why should I be responsible for retrieving it? Am I being too blunt? It's aggressive American thing. You see, I simply can't help myself. 🙄 Your little giggle party was "cute" though, even if the wit is a bit dull.
What a fantastic and comprehensive review/set up guide. Easily the best I've seen for any table saw on TH-cam. This saw is now definitely on my shortlist for my first DIY table saw along with the very similar looking Excel and Evolution alternatives thanks to this review. Your channel deserves to be so much larger.
I shall look forward to that so I'll hold off from making a decision just yet. Just thought I'd give you one example of why I found your review so useful; Mitre Gauge. All the reviews I've seen agree the stock ones are basically next to useless. Most just say buy a better one, the end! You didn't just write it off. Instead you offered ways to mitigate it's obvious flaws and possibly make it usable for a newbie like I am who isn't going to use it often (at least at first) and so doesn't want to spend a small fortune on a better one until I know it's worth spending on one.
Brilliant review, no time wasting, and thanks for doing a comprehensive job. You obviously planned this well in advance. You should do more reviews, you’re a natural.
Great to see a nice in-depth review of this saw. Thanks very much for taking the time to do this, it's helped me out enormously. I'll be sticking around for your other content :)
Excellent review. I purchased this saw, together with the stand 4 months ago after some careful research and agree with all your pro's and con's. I have found the saw very stable when using the fold-up stand and would recommend buying. Great quality saw for the price.
I bought this table saw after reading comments about it after watching a UK review of the SKIL table-saw that’s coming to the UK, it’s remarkably similar and so far I’m not disappointed!
This video provides a very good start for your channel. Well presented, clearly defined and thorough. I am interested to see how the channel develops. Good Luck!
I’m sold! Was almost certainly getting this saw and the review has made up my mind. The rack and pinion is such a plus for a saw of this price point. Cheers for a thorough review 👍🏻
Yeah, I'm of the same opinion. I was looking at the dewalt but you can have this one with a 255mm blade compered to the dewalt 210mm for £100+ less. My only gripe and it's not the saw but the lack of a mobile stand, like the dewalt. I am trying to find a compatible mobile stand, if anyone has any ideas?
Great review and demonstration. It's really good you have taken the time to explain the table saw set-up and workings, with specific measurements and how to make adjustments etc. Thank you for a very enjoyable presentation.
I bought one about 2 months ago, i love it. I also ordered their sliding compound mitre saw which you can place against a wall and ideal for a small workshop! A lot of their stuff has been brilliant and at a very reasonable price!
This is the first rutlands product I've bought and it seems very good quality for what it is, a lot of people spoke about rutlands customer service is poor, have you had any experience you'd share with us?
Just got this saw, the video came at the right time. I now know how to tweek and adjust the saw, because the manual isn't great. Huge thanks, extremely helpful.
Brilliant, I've been mulling over getting this table saw and your review has been an absolute godsend. Cheers for the smashing and comprehensive breakdown, mate. Just a small note - when you go for a more budget-friendly model like this one, you usually need to swap out the blade and also invest in a better miter gauge to get the most out of it. But overall, this seems like fantastic value for money. I really appreciate you taking the time to walk us through all the nitty-gritty details. Spot on!
Thanks mate, and yes totally agree with you, I already had a better blade ready to swap out after this video was made, still thinking of getting a decent 3rd party mitre gauge though
Top notch review buddy. One of the best, most comprehensive reviews I’ve seen. I’m seriously considering buying this saw as a result of your review. Great stuff
A very good and impartial review mate of a saw that has had very little media coverage and is ,what seems a very good budget saw..weldone on the review and bringing this saw into the light.
A thorough review. Thanks. I was looking at this machine the other day. Didn't take the plunge but might now 🙂. Excel also do a similar one but it's only 1800W but it's £229.99
Thanks for the review - really great honest review. I was actually looking at a second-hand Dewalt, or a budget Evolution r255 - but I think this trumps both options. I agree with the mitre fence, so looks like another £90 from Rutlands or a third party one. Even so, at 295 this is still a good deal. Thanks for the content, good stuff.
The Excel is well reviewed and actually on sale on amazon atm for £169. I was researching the various options but at that price why even bother, I just went ahead and bought the Excel
Thanks and no thanks at the same time ! I spent hours watching table saw reviews, mainly US based, settled on the Skil table saw and... it's not available anywhere in Europe. Gave up and bought a Scheppach table saw. Well, I just refused the package and waiting for my Rutlands. 😅
Thanks for the review. Torn between this and the new Evolution table saws. Reckon this, the new Excel table saw and the Evolutions might all have come out of the same factory.
I hadn't noticed this until people started pointing this out, you might be right, apparently a "Skil" table saw is coming to the UK which is also identical to this machine so it'll be interesting to see other people's reviews
Excellent review, thank you, but please stop spreading the ‘no dado blades in the UK’ myth. If you want to buy a dado set, they’re freely available. Extended arbour saws aren’t as freely available, but that’s because these saws would struggle to meet other EU (UK) Regulations (braking and guarding), NOT because ‘dado sets (or groove cutters) are illegal’. 👍
It isn't a myth, dado sets are in practice almost impossible to use with our health and safety laws, even if you could somehow manage to satisfy all the health and safety requirements relating to the dado itself you would only be allowed to use it if you have no other possible way of cutting the dado. I had the HSE round to my workshop, he went through all the things I would need to do to make using the dado 'legal' he then said you have a router table and as that is safer and available to you you must use that instead.
@@thomasbroker69 it only applies to commercial use, you can do what you like in a home workshop, in a commercial setting you cannot by law remove or interfere with safety equipment and that applies to riving knife and guards, but you can buy a dado compatible table saw.
I've had mine now for about four months and it hasn't missed a beat. There has been quite a bit of talk about the differences between this and the DeWalt and the only thing anyone has given me is that the gearing screws for the height adjustment are plastic on the Rutlands and metal on the DeWalt. I don't see the price difference being justified by that! It's a cracking saw. I got a mitre gauge from Banggood and shoved the other one in a drawer with all the other standard issue ones. Never had a good one!
Thank you for the brilliant Review matey! I don’t know if you have seen the New Table Saw for Site by Evolution as that is seems the same copy of this one except the Riving Knife as you can remove it so if you prefer use the Dedo Blades (I think that is what they cal) you can do that. I guess they done that so it can be used other side of the pond. I got their Rage 5-S but having a few issues which I’m waiting to hear from Evolution. Oh, they Dust collection is also good and got Slow Start Technology. Nevertheless, thank you for your detailed review as I believe, *_Our World_* is a *_Shared Experience_* … Remember, *_Life_* is *_Short_* so, *_Live Long_* and *_Prosper_* … 🖖 Cheers matey!!!
Yep agree with all the comments - excellent review delivered in an easy but professional manner. I have bought the Rutlands mitre gauge which is very much like the Incra one I have on my bandsaw. My very budget Workzone saw has actually served me well and is surprisingly accurate for a £100 saw. Unfortunately the pressed tin table has non standard mitre grooves so I snapped up the Rutlands mitre gauge offer and am looking for a saw which was going to be a Dewalt but what a price. I think you have convinced me and I assume the Rutlands upgraded mitre gauge will fit the slots which I also assume are standard 19mm.
Thanks for your comment. Annoyingly I forgot to add the dimensions of the mitre slot in the video, but yes the mitre slot width is 19mm. Mines reading 19.2mm which may or may not be that slight wobble in the video which I was referring to. I'd like to assume the upgraded fence from Rutlands is compatible but you'd have to check from their website
What a great review and super thorough and well presented video. Subbed and looking forward to more videos. About the rubbish mitre gauge, it’s possible to use a punch or nail set to make a dimple at a few points along the bar which (by displacing material) makes the bar a little wider, works better on a steel bar of course, but may help. For the vertical angle it would need shimming. Best of luck with your channel, I am sure you’ll do fantastically well!
Excellent review! I bought this saw too because of its price and its features and have also bought the Rutland Mitre fence to be sure it would fit. It makes a world of difference with the adjustable slides to take out the wobble. The flip stop works well with no movement when making repeat cuts. It has locking points every 5 degrees and you can set it anywhere in between by locking it manually. It’s a really solid piece of kit. Do you know if there is an industry standard for mitre slots in table saws?
Annoyingly, I forgot to film the part where I gave measurements of the mitre slot itself. I checked it and its approx 1cm deep x 2cm width. I googled it and that seems to be the typical standard size, but I don't have any other mitre gauges to try it so can't confirm. I think I know the mitre gauge you have, that looked like a good peice of kit 👌 thanks for your comment
A very fair accurate and Informative video. But you did give me a scare when it came to cutting the plywood. At the very start of your cut. You had your arm right over the top of the saw blade You scared the living Daylights out of me. Then you quickly corrected yourself and changed arms thank God. One slip standing the way you were, and you would of been in serious trouble. At least you realised it. All in all a great video. and very fairly done This saw seems to be very similar to the new evolution range. I think not released yet. Did see a video yesterday on youtube of an early release. model. They seem to have corrected their miter gauge Problems. All in all, I think the evolution model R255 is a bit better having the slide in Table Stand options. including mobile trolley.
I brought a cheap titan table saw. The blade cuts fine it does what a saw should do. The biggest problem are the guides they are cheap and flimsy. But if money towards new ones or make something a little more sturdy and it would be fine
Great review. Very comprehensive and informative. Next purchased decided - thank you! Your style is good and talking speed is spot on. Great future I think 👍 Next videos - would be interesting to hear your thoughts on your thinknesser and planer. Are they any good? Do you use them enough to justify the outlay? Well done 😊
Thank you, I think my dewalt thicknesser is great, I can't really fault it it's definately worth the extra bit of money because it produces small shavings rather than strips of wood that clog up the machine like my old Triton thicknesser did. My Scheppach planer is okay, it's getting old (approx 5 years). It's not been used tons in that time but I've found the dust extraction pretty poor and the fence likes to move a tad. It does produce a nice clean/flat cut but I think for the price I paid (£400) I'd rather get a sturdy 2nd hand cast iron top planer.
This looks great. I notice Evolution have just released a new table saw with rack and pinion fence too. In fact it’s very similar right down to the push stick storage
With the 90 degree mitre you could use aluminium shims where the thread of the two bolts with wing nuts clamp to it. Just a strip a few millimetres think would do it.
@@Litehamer It's only £30 cheaper than the base Evolution model. And the Evo has more and better features too. Sliding table, Steel blade throat not flimsy plastic, Geared micro adjust bevel, Better mitre gauge and bigger cut capacity right of blade
@@alexcurmi7412 Looks like Rutland dropped their price a bit, presumably because the (slightly better) Evolution came out? The two machines are very similar and are quite likely made in the same factory. I guess the choice comes down to if you need the Evolution features enough to pay the extra, but for a DIY user they are both excellent for the money.
Thanks, quite a few people said the same thing, I also noticed this looks even more identical to the Skil table saw which I believe is coming to the UK at some point
Deffo need a TS with a fence that can be locked on both sides. I've found that work can slide off line and ride up as well if you your fence isn't solid.IMO.
The new Evolution job site saw looks almost identical to the Rutlands unit in so many respects that I assume they both come from the same source. There are some significant feature differences which may explain the extra cost of the Evo unit and makes choice a matter of personal choice. However, having had dealings with Rutlands in the past over an issue with their router and router lift, I found their insistence on conducting a dialogue via email and refusing to talk to me on the phone (try finding a phone number for them) very frustrating and unhelpful so that I would think very long and hard about spending my money at Rutlands on anything more than a cheap set of chisels - expensive machinery - most unlikely. Evolution on the other hand were very helpful and via the phone sorted a problem out for me very quickly and with little debate, and I have no link to Evolution. That's my experience of the two companies.
As many have said, it does look very similar to the evolution. I cant fault either company, I've got the new generation cordless mitre saw from evolution and I love it. I did notice that evolutions table saw has less power than this table saw though
It all looks like so much plastic and thin metal though, but I like the lightness, the throat plate won’t last very long, but even wood ones need replacing, be good if manufacturers left a copy template to make it easier to make your own. Having a locked riving knife is good idea, though I occasionally take mine off when doing rebates but that’s only because it’s too tall. The horrible brittle plastic blade guard is awful. Be good to see if the fence moves with the machine locked to the floor, but that looks good especially for that kind of money, is there an extending fence? I still use an old ELU which is great with extending rods for the fence so I can rip 8x4’s but not the most accurate thing in the world mind you it’s nearly 30 years old!
It does have a few plastic parts to it, although the parts that are necessary like the surface and fence seem to be strong enough (at least for what I need). To be honest, I have no clue if there is an extendable fence for this or not but can say the fence and adjustability of it hasn't failed me yet
Just to make you aware the UK lifted the ban on Dado stacks back in 2019, you can purchase the online... I was actually looking at some on amazon the otherday..
odd one bit with the way the way the ends of the mitre guage are bevelled does the plate fit the other way up? looks like the mitre fence would pass over a 45 cut if on the fence side of the blade fitted the other way up? Might help with the lean back.
This might be a dumb question, but can the riving knife be lowered much below the height of the blade? I've been considering buying this saw for cutting fret slots using a crosscut sled and a specialist fret slotting blade, in other words making multiple non-through cuts. The thing is, those blades have a tiny 0.6mm kerf, so the riving knife would completely block the cut if it can't be lowered out of the way. I'm assuming that others who use table saws for this purpose simply remove the riving knife completely, though I note that you say this model doesn't seem to allow that. Excellent review, by the way!
Very good question, the riving knife can only go to the 2 heights as shown in the video, as far as I'm aware you aren't able to take the Riving knife out. For me, I have had the worst budget saws possible and they even include the ability to take it out so I think it is a small flaw you cannot do it with this saw. Although I do like the ease of adjusting it
@@SplitbarkStudio thanks for the reply! I actually got a response from Rutlands as well after asking them the same question, they said: "The thickness of the riving knife should always be slightly thinner than the kerf of the blade, as you mention, if the riving knife is thicker than the kerf then the wood will not pass by the knife. The riving knife can be removed but for safety reasons we would never recommend this, it is an important safety feature of the saw." So apparently the riving knife *can* be removed (no idea how, as I don't have the saw yet) but good to know it seems to be possible. And whilst I commend Rutlands for their adherence to full health and safety/liability guidelines, for the purpose I'm looking to use it for, there is virtually zero risk of kickback etc, as may otherwise be the case when using the saw without this feature. Think I might just go for it!
Nice review. Not many Rutland reviewers out there. Which is a shame really as they do some good stuff and are a uk supplier. A lot of reviews are for more American tools.
I dont think it's on Amazon I'm afraid. Rutlands are UK based and I bet international shipping would be huge to go to Australia. I've seen that the "Skil" table saw is almost identical to this though, maybe that's available near you? Thanks for your comment
I have bought a few Rutland tools in the past, while they are cheap the customer service when things break (which they do) is horrific. There is literally no phone numbers to actually speak to someone it's all done through a slow tortuous email exchange that days when a 10 minutes phone call would have done the same. You often can't get a replacement as they only buy limited stock so just offer you a partial refund when really what you wanted was a replacement. You need to do a follow up 6 month review & I am certain you will have had issues by then.
So there’s no way of removing the riving knife? You couldn’t then make a zero clearance insert plate eh. Do you know if there’s a zero clearance insert plate available to buy for this saw? Love your channel.
Doesn't look like you can pull it out, don't get me wrong there's probably a way you can but I wouldn't be comfortable in doing that. Doesn't look like they do zero clearance inserts either. Been thinking of making my own out of wood. A lot of people have been comparing this to the new evolution table saw, that might have a removable riving knife?
Very nice overview ! How noisy it is ? If you've worked with other saw how is it on the noise level compared to others? I ordered it yesterday but I'm still not sure if I can use it in the garden of my house or should I rent a space to work on it ? Thanks anyway
It is quite loud, but any table saw with this type of motor is gonna be like that, its just one of them unavoidable issues I'm afraid. I used to have a cheap titan table saw and it was louder than this however
It would stop small slithers of wood falling down the gap, but I don't think a 0 clearance insert would help much with dust. The blade guard would help reduce the spray of the dust and keep it contained but I don't like using a guard especially cause it has no hole for extraction aswell. I think you'd either have to set up a vac that hovers over the table/wood or buy a 3rd party blade guard which comes with a dust extraction hole
This is almost the same as the Evolution R255TBL @ £329.99 but that has a sliding portion for the mitre and has the Evolution multi material blade (which I can attest, does cut through anything!)
Hi! Thanks for the video and the review. Was wondering: what makes this one better than the Evolution R255TBL or the Bosch GTS 635-216 (both slightly cheaper than this Rutlands)?
Funny you should ask, I'm going to be reviewing the new evolution R255TBL+ in my next video so I'll make some comparisons between that and the rutlands. Until then I wouldn't be able to say which is better
Rutlands - are they the ones who only allow five star reviews on their site? One of several clones at various prices, including the new Evolution which is strikingly similar.....
I havent purchased a 3rd party mitre gauge for a table saw yet so haven't got any recommendations sorry. The slot for this saw is 19mm wide x 11mm deep if that helps with your searches
I am looking to replace my cheap SIP table saw. I have built it into a workbench but the top is warped. I use a sled and other jigs. Do you use a sled on this as if you can't remove the riving knife I can see it causing issues
I havent made a sled for this yet, although I don't think it would cause too much of an issue proving that you make the blade gap slightly thicker to accommodate for the riving knife. A lot of people have spoken about the new Evolution table saw being better than this, I'm not sure if the riving knife can be taken out but worth a look 👍
@@SplitbarkStudio I was looking at the Evolution one as well. The only drawback with those is the bore size of the blade as they have a non standard bore size so you have to buy their blades. Unless of course there is something on the market to adapt
With all the reviews of table saws I’ve seen none give the width and depth of the miter slot as after market mitre slide bars are a certain size and may not fit like the Evolution Rage 5s the slot isn’t deep enough
got one of these today ,,,its proving hard to retract the blade all the way back down before it makes a big clicking sound then it retracts anyone else have that problem???
Not had that problem so far, have you double checked there's nothing obstructing the blade in the chamber? And you've taken off the cable ties that were holding up the motor?
I'd buy the new Evolution, which is a very similar saw. It has been my experience recently that Rutlands don't stand by their warranty and consider the longevity of key parts of their machines (bearings in particular) to be unimportant. I recently had their router motor bearings fail well within teh warranty after light home use, they told me to replace them myself as they consider them "wear items". I had a lathe from them with bearings that failed within a month, they supplied new bearings and a new headstock casting due to poor machining but the headstock was cast with an upward tilt and the bearing pockets too large. Had loads of their other tools break also. In most cases they did replace or refund the ones that I bothered to complain about, but they will no-longer respond regarding the router. Avoid, not worth the hassle.
MITRE SLOT - Mitre slot is 11mm deep x 19mm wide. (Forgot to add)
Is this the standard that all the major saws use ???
@@philliproberts6137 From what I can research, yes it is, some of the well rated mitre gauges such as the INCRA brand have gauges for 19mm width. I would of course, double check with whichever you are looking at buying first
Every single mitre gauge on both budget and more expensive tools is not good, unless you go for something like a Felder, most people get an aftermarket gauge or fettle the old one to suit. These Jobsite saws are never great on dust extraction.
Exact same mitre gauge as evolution, take the protractor off and rub the raised plastic nub off on a bit sand paper, now mine sits perfect 90.
Being French, it's very nice to have an equipment review with a nice English accent instead of an American one. And to hear you give measurements in the metric system: priceless!
Being American, I find it annoying when French people leave completely irrelevant comments within a table saw review. Of course, this is my personal opinion which means nothing, similar to your own.
@@genesishep Looks like someone need to take a minute haha. Perhaps go stand outside for a while and take a few deep breaths. Don't worry it's okay, people can prefer different accents than American, no need to spit your dummy out over it. 🤡🤡
@@DannysGalaxyTab Honestly? I don't believe there is a person in these comments who could raise a welt on my ass much less get me upset. I just felt like sharing my opinion similar to the OP. Just as they had the right to declare what sounds pleasing to their ear I had the right to state what annoys me. Was it particularly kind or polite? No, but considering they had already tossed politeness out the window why should I be responsible for retrieving it?
Am I being too blunt? It's aggressive American thing. You see, I simply can't help myself. 🙄 Your little giggle party was "cute" though, even if the wit is a bit dull.
What a fantastic and comprehensive review/set up guide. Easily the best I've seen for any table saw on TH-cam. This saw is now definitely on my shortlist for my first DIY table saw along with the very similar looking Excel and Evolution alternatives thanks to this review. Your channel deserves to be so much larger.
Thank you, through popular demand I'll be reviewing the Evolution table saw TBL+ in my next video and comparing it to this
I shall look forward to that so I'll hold off from making a decision just yet.
Just thought I'd give you one example of why I found your review so useful; Mitre Gauge.
All the reviews I've seen agree the stock ones are basically next to useless. Most just say buy a better one, the end! You didn't just write it off. Instead you offered ways to mitigate it's obvious flaws and possibly make it usable for a newbie like I am who isn't going to use it often (at least at first) and so doesn't want to spend a small fortune on a better one until I know it's worth spending on one.
Brilliant review, no time wasting, and thanks for doing a comprehensive job. You obviously planned this well in advance. You should do more reviews, you’re a natural.
Great to see a nice in-depth review of this saw. Thanks very much for taking the time to do this, it's helped me out enormously. I'll be sticking around for your other content :)
Excellent review. I purchased this saw, together with the stand 4 months ago after some careful research and agree with all your pro's and con's. I have found the saw very stable when using the fold-up stand and would recommend buying. Great quality saw for the price.
I bought this table saw after reading comments about it after watching a UK review of the SKIL table-saw that’s coming to the UK, it’s remarkably similar and so far I’m not disappointed!
I noticed that, they look pretty much identical, wonder how much it'll cost when it arrives?
This is Skil only without legs. The Skil is more comfortable to use thanks to the legs.
This video provides a very good start for your channel. Well presented, clearly defined and thorough. I am interested to see how the channel develops. Good Luck!
I’m sold! Was almost certainly getting this saw and the review has made up my mind. The rack and pinion is such a plus for a saw of this price point. Cheers for a thorough review 👍🏻
Yeah, I'm of the same opinion. I was looking at the dewalt but you can have this one with a 255mm blade compered to the dewalt 210mm for £100+ less. My only gripe and it's not the saw but the lack of a mobile stand, like the dewalt. I am trying to find a compatible mobile stand, if anyone has any ideas?
Great review and demonstration. It's really good you have taken the time to explain the table saw set-up and workings, with specific measurements and how to make adjustments etc. Thank you for a very enjoyable presentation.
I bought one about 2 months ago, i love it.
I also ordered their sliding compound mitre saw which you can place against a wall and ideal for a small workshop!
A lot of their stuff has been brilliant and at a very reasonable price!
This is the first rutlands product I've bought and it seems very good quality for what it is, a lot of people spoke about rutlands customer service is poor, have you had any experience you'd share with us?
Rutland seem to have really raised their game. Good effort Dude.
surprised to see this is a small channel. hopefully this will grow, great review 👍
That was a very helpful video, thank you. I had already purchased this saw but had not fully adjusted it - now I will! Cheers
A brilliant and honest review and persuaded me to go for this saw over the Evolution TBL version that is hard to get. Nice job.
Let me know how you get on, my next video I'll be reviewing the new evolution R255TBL+ model and making comparisons between the 2
Just got this saw, the video came at the right time. I now know how to tweek and adjust the saw, because the manual isn't great. Huge thanks, extremely helpful.
Glad it helped
Excellent review of a great piece of kit. No instruction manual required now!!
Brilliant, I've been mulling over getting this table saw and your review has been an absolute godsend. Cheers for the smashing and comprehensive breakdown, mate. Just a small note - when you go for a more budget-friendly model like this one, you usually need to swap out the blade and also invest in a better miter gauge to get the most out of it. But overall, this seems like fantastic value for money. I really appreciate you taking the time to walk us through all the nitty-gritty details. Spot on!
Thanks mate, and yes totally agree with you, I already had a better blade ready to swap out after this video was made, still thinking of getting a decent 3rd party mitre gauge though
this vid is worth a sub on its own.. cheers 👍
Top notch review buddy. One of the best, most comprehensive reviews I’ve seen. I’m seriously considering buying this saw as a result of your review.
Great stuff
Thank you
production quality, audio clarity and depth of coverage, wow, awesome, instantly sub'd, you're going to do very well
Thank you
just had my saw delivered today with the stand. thanks for the video made the setup a breeze for a table saw newbie
Thank you
A very good and impartial review mate of a saw that has had very little media coverage and is ,what seems a very good budget saw..weldone on the review and bringing this saw into the light.
Just taken delivery of mine and your video was very helpful as the instruction manual isn't very good. Rutlands should link your video in their blurb.
Thank you, yeah their manual is terrible
Excellent review and setup, if only all reviews were this good!
Yeah after this video I'm buying one. Fantastic review and great breakdown on pre work checks for amateur woodworkers. Look forward on more videos.
A thorough review. Thanks. I was looking at this machine the other day. Didn't take the plunge but might now 🙂. Excel also do a similar one but it's only 1800W but it's £229.99
Thanks for the review - really great honest review. I was actually looking at a second-hand Dewalt, or a budget Evolution r255 - but I think this trumps both options. I agree with the mitre fence, so looks like another £90 from Rutlands or a third party one. Even so, at 295 this is still a good deal. Thanks for the content, good stuff.
Bought the Excel equivalent at £185. Really pleased with it. Slight differences but essentially the same saw.
The Excel is well reviewed and actually on sale on amazon atm for £169.
I was researching the various options but at that price why even bother, I just went ahead and bought the Excel
Just a cracking review mate, you should consider doing reviews as a solid option.
Thanks and no thanks at the same time ! I spent hours watching table saw reviews, mainly US based, settled on the Skil table saw and... it's not available anywhere in Europe. Gave up and bought a Scheppach table saw. Well, I just refused the package and waiting for my Rutlands. 😅
You can use shim washers to level up the mitre gauge.
Thanks for the review. Torn between this and the new Evolution table saws. Reckon this, the new Excel table saw and the Evolutions might all have come out of the same factory.
I hadn't noticed this until people started pointing this out, you might be right, apparently a "Skil" table saw is coming to the UK which is also identical to this machine so it'll be interesting to see other people's reviews
A great review - I can see lots of similarities to the new Evolution R255TS saw launched last week.
very cool review. very useful and informative!!
Thank you :)
Great review fella. I’m looking for a budget saw and this seams to tick all the right box’s for me. Keep em coming 👍🏼
Excellent presentation.Clear,concise and informative. At £200+ I wouldnt call it budget
Thank you
Reminds me of the Skil table saw I bought but that is a good thing. This one looks good too.
Excellent review, thank you, but please stop spreading the ‘no dado blades in the UK’ myth. If you want to buy a dado set, they’re freely available. Extended arbour saws aren’t as freely available, but that’s because these saws would struggle to meet other EU (UK) Regulations (braking and guarding), NOT because ‘dado sets (or groove cutters) are illegal’. 👍
Every day's a school day, I thought it was the same rule for all saws, thanks for letting me know
It isn't a myth, dado sets are in practice almost impossible to use with our health and safety laws, even if you could somehow manage to satisfy all the health and safety requirements relating to the dado itself you would only be allowed to use it if you have no other possible way of cutting the dado. I had the HSE round to my workshop, he went through all the things I would need to do to make using the dado 'legal' he then said you have a router table and as that is safer and available to you you must use that instead.
@@richmiller540which is why table saws for UK have a shorter arbour, to prevent you fitting dados!
I did not know this, not used a dado set in a long time, is there a good reason why this H&S is in place? What was wrong with using a dado set?
@@thomasbroker69 it only applies to commercial use, you can do what you like in a home workshop, in a commercial setting you cannot by law remove or interfere with safety equipment and that applies to riving knife and guards, but you can buy a dado compatible table saw.
Great review thanks, Rutland do sell a “premium mitre gauge” which looks like a good option to avoid the issues you highlighted.
Put shims (paper) between the mitre gauge fence and black plastic to cant out the top of the fence to make it 90 degrees.
I've had mine now for about four months and it hasn't missed a beat. There has been quite a bit of talk about the differences between this and the DeWalt and the only thing anyone has given me is that the gearing screws for the height adjustment are plastic on the Rutlands and metal on the DeWalt. I don't see the price difference being justified by that! It's a cracking saw. I got a mitre gauge from Banggood and shoved the other one in a drawer with all the other standard issue ones. Never had a good one!
What mitre gauge did you go for?
@Goodness_hey The Enjoywood one, a bit cheaper than the Hongdui and good enough for me.
Great review, if they put an induction motor in this table saw, it would be a best seller.
Thank you for the brilliant Review matey! I don’t know if you have seen the New Table Saw for Site by Evolution as that is seems the same copy of this one except the Riving Knife as you can remove it so if you prefer use the Dedo Blades (I think that is what they cal) you can do that. I guess they done that so it can be used other side of the pond. I got their Rage 5-S but having a few issues which I’m waiting to hear from Evolution. Oh, they Dust collection is also good and got Slow Start Technology. Nevertheless, thank you for your detailed review as I believe, *_Our World_* is a *_Shared Experience_* …
Remember, *_Life_* is *_Short_* so, *_Live Long_* and *_Prosper_* … 🖖 Cheers matey!!!
Yep agree with all the comments - excellent review delivered in an easy but professional manner. I have bought the Rutlands mitre gauge which is very much like the Incra one I have on my bandsaw. My very budget Workzone saw has actually served me well and is surprisingly accurate for a £100 saw. Unfortunately the pressed tin table has non standard mitre grooves so I snapped up the Rutlands mitre gauge offer and am looking for a saw which was going to be a Dewalt but what a price. I think you have convinced me and I assume the Rutlands upgraded mitre gauge will fit the slots which I also assume are standard 19mm.
Thanks for your comment. Annoyingly I forgot to add the dimensions of the mitre slot in the video, but yes the mitre slot width is 19mm. Mines reading 19.2mm which may or may not be that slight wobble in the video which I was referring to. I'd like to assume the upgraded fence from Rutlands is compatible but you'd have to check from their website
What a great review and super thorough and well presented video. Subbed and looking forward to more videos. About the rubbish mitre gauge, it’s possible to use a punch or nail set to make a dimple at a few points along the bar which (by displacing material) makes the bar a little wider, works better on a steel bar of course, but may help. For the vertical angle it would need shimming. Best of luck with your channel, I am sure you’ll do fantastically well!
Excellent review! I bought this saw too because of its price and its features and have also bought the Rutland Mitre fence to be sure it would fit. It makes a world of difference with the adjustable slides to take out the wobble. The flip stop works well with no movement when making repeat cuts.
It has locking points every 5 degrees and you can set it anywhere in between by locking it manually. It’s a really solid piece of kit.
Do you know if there is an industry standard for mitre slots in table saws?
Annoyingly, I forgot to film the part where I gave measurements of the mitre slot itself. I checked it and its approx 1cm deep x 2cm width. I googled it and that seems to be the typical standard size, but I don't have any other mitre gauges to try it so can't confirm. I think I know the mitre gauge you have, that looked like a good peice of kit 👌 thanks for your comment
Very good practical guide, so thanks for taking the time to make the video.
Thank you
Thanks for this.
A very fair accurate and Informative video. But you did give me a scare when it came to cutting the plywood. At the very start of your cut. You had your arm right over the top of the saw blade You scared the living Daylights out of me. Then you quickly corrected yourself and changed arms thank God. One slip standing the way you were, and you would of been in serious trouble. At least you realised it. All in all a great video. and very fairly done This saw seems to be very similar to the new evolution range. I think not released yet. Did see a video yesterday on youtube of an early release. model. They seem to have corrected their miter gauge Problems. All in all, I think the evolution model R255 is a bit better having the slide in Table Stand options. including mobile trolley.
My fingers thank you for next time
I brought a cheap titan table saw. The blade cuts fine it does what a saw should do. The biggest problem are the guides they are cheap and flimsy. But if money towards new ones or make something a little more sturdy and it would be fine
My first table saw was actually the cheapest titan I could get, the power was pretty good but I agree the fence/guides weren't so good.
Great review. Very comprehensive and informative. Next purchased decided - thank you!
Your style is good and talking speed is spot on. Great future I think 👍
Next videos - would be interesting to hear your thoughts on your thinknesser and planer. Are they any good? Do you use them enough to justify the outlay?
Well done 😊
Thank you, I think my dewalt thicknesser is great, I can't really fault it it's definately worth the extra bit of money because it produces small shavings rather than strips of wood that clog up the machine like my old Triton thicknesser did.
My Scheppach planer is okay, it's getting old (approx 5 years). It's not been used tons in that time but I've found the dust extraction pretty poor and the fence likes to move a tad. It does produce a nice clean/flat cut but I think for the price I paid (£400) I'd rather get a sturdy 2nd hand cast iron top planer.
This looks great. I notice Evolution have just released a new table saw with rack and pinion fence too. In fact it’s very similar right down to the push stick storage
I was just going to say the same thing
A lot of people have mentioned the same thing, they look very similar. I did notice evolutions motors are weaker though
I find the easiest way to adjust the stock mitre gauge is to throw it in the bin and buy a new one.
Excellent review.
Thank you
Great review, thank you!
Thank you
Excellent 👍
Great review, thanks
Thank you
With the 90 degree mitre you could use aluminium shims where the thread of the two bolts with wing nuts clamp to it. Just a strip a few millimetres think would do it.
Great idea, might try that
Looks remarkably like the evolution R255 available later this month!
But almost £100 cheaper
@@Litehamer It's only £30 cheaper than the base Evolution model. And the Evo has more and better features too. Sliding table, Steel blade throat not flimsy plastic, Geared micro adjust bevel, Better mitre gauge and bigger cut capacity right of blade
@@willholt100where are you seeing this price? When I look online, the Rutlands is £295 and the evolution is £379.99.
@@alexcurmi7412 Looks like Rutland dropped their price a bit, presumably because the (slightly better) Evolution came out? The two machines are very similar and are quite likely made in the same factory. I guess the choice comes down to if you need the Evolution features enough to pay the extra, but for a DIY user they are both excellent for the money.
Excellent, very thorough review, seems to be a cheaper version of the recently released Evolution range.
Thanks, quite a few people said the same thing, I also noticed this looks even more identical to the Skil table saw which I believe is coming to the UK at some point
excrlent review best regards nuno portugal
Aluminium or cast iron table, and the first thing to change is the blade and you have a great saw.
This has a cast aluminium top, the stock blade on this thing isn't too bad, but I have opted for a 40 tooth blade for a smoother finish
Deffo need a TS with a fence that can be locked on both sides. I've found that work can slide off line and ride up as well if you your fence isn't solid.IMO.
The new Evolution job site saw looks almost identical to the Rutlands unit in so many respects that I assume they both come from the same source. There are some significant feature differences which may explain the extra cost of the Evo unit and makes choice a matter of personal choice. However, having had dealings with Rutlands in the past over an issue with their router and router lift, I found their insistence on conducting a dialogue via email and refusing to talk to me on the phone (try finding a phone number for them) very frustrating and unhelpful so that I would think very long and hard about spending my money at Rutlands on anything more than a cheap set of chisels - expensive machinery - most unlikely. Evolution on the other hand were very helpful and via the phone sorted a problem out for me very quickly and with little debate, and I have no link to Evolution. That's my experience of the two companies.
As many have said, it does look very similar to the evolution. I cant fault either company, I've got the new generation cordless mitre saw from evolution and I love it. I did notice that evolutions table saw has less power than this table saw though
It all looks like so much plastic and thin metal though, but I like the lightness, the throat plate won’t last very long, but even wood ones need replacing, be good if manufacturers left a copy template to make it easier to make your own. Having a locked riving knife is good idea, though I occasionally take mine off when doing rebates but that’s only because it’s too tall. The horrible brittle plastic blade guard is awful. Be good to see if the fence moves with the machine locked to the floor, but that looks good especially for that kind of money, is there an extending fence? I still use an old ELU which is great with extending rods for the fence so I can rip 8x4’s but not the most accurate thing in the world mind you it’s nearly 30 years old!
It does have a few plastic parts to it, although the parts that are necessary like the surface and fence seem to be strong enough (at least for what I need). To be honest, I have no clue if there is an extendable fence for this or not but can say the fence and adjustability of it hasn't failed me yet
Just to make you aware the UK lifted the ban on Dado stacks back in 2019, you can purchase the online... I was actually looking at some on amazon the otherday..
Every day's a school day, I didn't know they did this until someone pointed it out, cheers
odd one bit with the way the way the ends of the mitre guage are bevelled does the plate fit the other way up? looks like the mitre fence would pass over a 45 cut if on the fence side of the blade fitted the other way up? Might help with the lean back.
This might be a dumb question, but can the riving knife be lowered much below the height of the blade? I've been considering buying this saw for cutting fret slots using a crosscut sled and a specialist fret slotting blade, in other words making multiple non-through cuts. The thing is, those blades have a tiny 0.6mm kerf, so the riving knife would completely block the cut if it can't be lowered out of the way. I'm assuming that others who use table saws for this purpose simply remove the riving knife completely, though I note that you say this model doesn't seem to allow that.
Excellent review, by the way!
Very good question, the riving knife can only go to the 2 heights as shown in the video, as far as I'm aware you aren't able to take the Riving knife out. For me, I have had the worst budget saws possible and they even include the ability to take it out so I think it is a small flaw you cannot do it with this saw. Although I do like the ease of adjusting it
@@SplitbarkStudio thanks for the reply! I actually got a response from Rutlands as well after asking them the same question, they said:
"The thickness of the riving knife should always be slightly thinner than the kerf of the blade, as you mention, if the riving knife is thicker than the kerf then the wood will not pass by the knife.
The riving knife can be removed but for safety reasons we would never recommend this, it is an important safety feature of the saw."
So apparently the riving knife *can* be removed (no idea how, as I don't have the saw yet) but good to know it seems to be possible. And whilst I commend Rutlands for their adherence to full health and safety/liability guidelines, for the purpose I'm looking to use it for, there is virtually zero risk of kickback etc, as may otherwise be the case when using the saw without this feature. Think I might just go for it!
Nice review. Not many Rutland reviewers out there. Which is a shame really as they do some good stuff and are a uk supplier. A lot of reviews are for more American tools.
You might be right, someone mentioned earlier about the Skil saw that's coming to the UK and that looks identical too
Seeing you how you try to tighten the screw from 90degree stop block... omg, really ? 😳
It is a real good vedio to watch with, thanks. Perhaps it is available from Amazon in Sydney Australia. Please confirm thank you in advance
I dont think it's on Amazon I'm afraid. Rutlands are UK based and I bet international shipping would be huge to go to Australia. I've seen that the "Skil" table saw is almost identical to this though, maybe that's available near you? Thanks for your comment
Evolution saw also has the sliding mitre attachment!
I do like the look of that sliding mitre attachment on the evolution, very unique design for its price range too
I have bought a few Rutland tools in the past, while they are cheap the customer service when things break (which they do) is horrific.
There is literally no phone numbers to actually speak to someone it's all done through a slow tortuous email exchange that days when a 10 minutes phone call would have done the same.
You often can't get a replacement as they only buy limited stock so just offer you a partial refund when really what you wanted was a replacement.
You need to do a follow up 6 month review & I am certain you will have had issues by then.
You're not the first to mention this, I haven't had problems yet but that's definately something to consider
Hi, you say you will change the blade for future use, what did you change to
From amazon - TCT25540T Saxton TCT Circular Wood Saw Blade 255mm x 30mm Bore x 40T. Good all rounder for ripping/Cross cuts
It's the same as the Skil saw even down to the push stick. Only big diffence is the Skill has a 4 legged stand.
Really enjoyed this useful video, thanks. Is the rack & pinion mechanism made from plastic or is it metal?
Appears to be plastic but i could be wrong
So there’s no way of removing the riving knife?
You couldn’t then make a zero clearance insert plate eh.
Do you know if there’s a zero clearance insert plate available to buy for this saw?
Love your channel.
Doesn't look like you can pull it out, don't get me wrong there's probably a way you can but I wouldn't be comfortable in doing that. Doesn't look like they do zero clearance inserts either. Been thinking of making my own out of wood. A lot of people have been comparing this to the new evolution table saw, that might have a removable riving knife?
@@SplitbarkStudio thanks for your reply buddy.
That’s the only thing bugging me about this saw.
Great channel.
Yes we do have access to dado blades.
Every day's a school day, thanks for the update
Very nice overview ! How noisy it is ? If you've worked with other saw how is it on the noise level compared to others? I ordered it yesterday but I'm still not sure if I can use it in the garden of my house or should I rent a space to work on it ? Thanks anyway
It is quite loud, but any table saw with this type of motor is gonna be like that, its just one of them unavoidable issues I'm afraid. I used to have a cheap titan table saw and it was louder than this however
This is a cool video thank you. Would a 0 clearance cut thing help with the sawdust on top?
It would stop small slithers of wood falling down the gap, but I don't think a 0 clearance insert would help much with dust. The blade guard would help reduce the spray of the dust and keep it contained but I don't like using a guard especially cause it has no hole for extraction aswell. I think you'd either have to set up a vac that hovers over the table/wood or buy a 3rd party blade guard which comes with a dust extraction hole
@@SplitbarkStudio thank you, have you got any idea if this saw can be built into a workbench? I’m tempted to buy it :)
Mitre gauges on all these jobsite saws are only fit for the bin, best bet is make your own or get a decent 3rd party one
I moved the screws for fence now i will have to align them?
If you're referring to the screws the fence sits on then yes, you'll need to make your fence parallel to the blade, i also do this in the video
This is almost the same as the Evolution R255TBL @ £329.99 but that has a sliding portion for the mitre and has the Evolution multi material blade (which I can attest, does cut through anything!)
I must admit, I do like the look of the sliding table on the evolution, I'm interested in seeing someone making a comparison
@SplitbarkStudio I have the Rage 5s and it is very useful!
where are you seeing this price? When I look online, the Rutlands is £295 and the evolution is £379.99.
First rate video. The throat plate I found the end of the spanners removing the blade is the same size as the slot for lossening the plate.
That's useful I didnt actually notice that, cheers
Seems very much like the new evolution R255TBLX+
It’s also the same as Bosch which is £588
Hi! Thanks for the video and the review. Was wondering: what makes this one better than the Evolution R255TBL or the Bosch GTS 635-216 (both slightly cheaper than this Rutlands)?
Funny you should ask, I'm going to be reviewing the new evolution R255TBL+ in my next video so I'll make some comparisons between that and the rutlands. Until then I wouldn't be able to say which is better
@@SplitbarkStudio Right, looking forward!
Rutlands - are they the ones who only allow five star reviews on their site? One of several clones at various prices, including the new Evolution which is strikingly similar.....
I'm not sure, this is my first rutlands product and haven't had any grief from them, I probably would rate this saw 4.5 stars if I had to though
evolution have a new table saw just out, very close to thus rutland ,and with a folding stand. . can you recomand a mitre gauge for this saw.
I havent purchased a 3rd party mitre gauge for a table saw yet so haven't got any recommendations sorry. The slot for this saw is 19mm wide x 11mm deep if that helps with your searches
I am looking to replace my cheap SIP table saw. I have built it into a workbench but the top is warped. I use a sled and other jigs. Do you use a sled on this as if you can't remove the riving knife I can see it causing issues
I havent made a sled for this yet, although I don't think it would cause too much of an issue proving that you make the blade gap slightly thicker to accommodate for the riving knife.
A lot of people have spoken about the new Evolution table saw being better than this, I'm not sure if the riving knife can be taken out but worth a look 👍
@@SplitbarkStudio I was looking at the Evolution one as well. The only drawback with those is the bore size of the blade as they have a non standard bore size so you have to buy their blades. Unless of course there is something on the market to adapt
you aligned the fence so y not just move the fence to the blade to check how parallel they are
That works too, I've seen loads of different ways to adjust it, this is just what I found works for me
With all the reviews of table saws I’ve seen none give the width and depth of the miter slot as after market mitre slide bars are a certain size and may not fit like the Evolution Rage 5s the slot isn’t deep enough
Good point, I just checked and its 1cm deep and 2cm wide, hope this helps
@@SplitbarkStudio thanks for replying in that case the after market mitre bar will fit 👍
I should point out I could not get parts for an older DeWalt at all
can you compare it with dewalt for £500?
I could be wrong but I thought both the Dewalt 7492 and the £500 version were the same except slightly larger with the 7492 being a 250mm blade
@@SplitbarkStudio I do think that Rutlands table saw is better quality than those way too expensive dewalts anyways...
got one of these today ,,,its proving hard to retract the blade all the way back down before it makes a big clicking sound then it retracts anyone else have that problem???
Not had that problem so far, have you double checked there's nothing obstructing the blade in the chamber? And you've taken off the cable ties that were holding up the motor?
Hello does anyone know how to adjust the blade angle so it cuts at 90 degrees please?
You can either use a square and place it against the blade or you can use a digital angle reader like I used here
Thank you very much. And thank you for the really useful video.
Tested the saw and it is so hard and loud on start as when starting I need to hold the saw not to jump of the table.
It is loud but I havent had any issues with it moving though
@@SplitbarkStudio I am putting soft start module to it.
2 x 4? Pine. What next? 4 x 8 sheets, 1 1/2 x 3 rough. I thought the convention in uk is big measurement first.
Does it matter? No, it doesn't, get a life.
I'd buy the new Evolution, which is a very similar saw. It has been my experience recently that Rutlands don't stand by their warranty and consider the longevity of key parts of their machines (bearings in particular) to be unimportant. I recently had their router motor bearings fail well within teh warranty after light home use, they told me to replace them myself as they consider them "wear items". I had a lathe from them with bearings that failed within a month, they supplied new bearings and a new headstock casting due to poor machining but the headstock was cast with an upward tilt and the bearing pockets too large. Had loads of their other tools break also. In most cases they did replace or refund the ones that I bothered to complain about, but they will no-longer respond regarding the router. Avoid, not worth the hassle.
I've heard a lot about rutlands customer service being sub-par. That's an interesting insight from yourself