Hi Shannon, I love your videos and have been a long time subscriber and fan of your work!! I know you plan your videos in advance but I’d love to see you rank the top 10 forward lines so far this season in a video! Thanks for all you do!!
5:50 It's interesting: I actually wondered what if the NHL-WHA merger had gone like the NFL-AFL merger, where the AFL became the AFC and needed only a few NFL teams added to balance them. The WHA teams absorbed were far fewer, but I figure we could've ended up with a National Hockey Conference and a World Hockey Conference if some things had played out differently. So in 1979, conferences I figure with the 21 teams would neatly fit the then 11 teams from the Surviving Six (not Original--don't erase numerous early teams) and the 1967 expansion for the NHC, with the subsequent expansion teams joining WHA clubs in the WHC as follows: NHC East: Boston, Montreal, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Toronto West: Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minnesota, St. Louis WHC East: Buffalo, Hartford, New York Islanders, Quebec, Washington West: Atlanta*, Colorado, Edmonton, Vancouver, Winnipeg *Recall that Atlanta moved to Calgary within a year, anyway, which fits perfectly. If we assume teams locked to their conferences as the NFL's teams have, along with movement and expansion teams exactly the same, then we could've ended up with these conferences and divisions along the timeline: *1982-83* East: Boston, Montreal, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Toronto West: Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minnesota, St. Louis WHC East: Buffalo, Hartford, New Jersey*, New York Islanders, Quebec, Washington West: Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Winnipeg *Thanks, Mickey Mouse. *1992-93* NHC Atlantic: New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay (NEW) East: Boston, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto West: Chicago, Los Angeles, Minnesota, St. Louis WHC East: Hartford, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Washington North: Buffalo, Ottawa (NEW), Quebec, Winnipeg West: Calgary, Edmonton, San Jose (1991-92), Vancouver *1993-94* NHC Atlantic: New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay East: Boston, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto West: Anaheim (NEW), Chicago, Dallas (RELOCATED), Los Angeles, St. Louis WHC East: Florida (NEW), Hartford, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Washington North: Buffalo, Ottawa, Quebec, Winnipeg West: Calgary, Edmonton, San Jose, Vancouver *1996-97* NHC same WHC East: Florida, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Washington North: Buffalo, Colorado (RELOCATED 1995-96), Hartford (REALIGNED), Ottawa West: Calgary, Edmonton, Phoenix (RELOCATED AND REALIGNED), San Jose, Vancouver *1997-98* NHC same WHC South: Carolina (RELOCATED AND REALIGNED), Colorado (REALIGNED), Florida, Washington Northeast: Buffalo, New Jersey (REALIGNED), New York Islanders (REALIGNED), Ottawa West: Calgary, Edmonton, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver *1999-2000* NHC Atlantic: Atlanta (NEW), New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay East: Boston, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto West: Anaheim, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, St. Louis WHC South: Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Nashville (1998-99), Washington Northeast: Buffalo, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Ottawa West: Calgary, Edmonton, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver *2000-01* NHC Atlantic: Atlanta, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay North: Boston, Detroit, Minnesota (NEW), Montreal, Toronto West: Anaheim, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, St. Louis WHC South: Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Nashville, Washington Northeast: Buffalo, Columbus (NEW), New Jersey, New York Islanders, Ottawa West: Calgary, Edmonton, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver *2011-12* NHC Atlantic: Boston (REALIGNED), New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay North: Detroit, Minnesota, Montreal, Toronto, Winnipeg (RELOCATED AND REALIGNED) West: Anaheim, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, St. Louis WHC South: Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Nashville, Washington Northeast: Buffalo, Columbus, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Ottawa West: Calgary, Edmonton, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver *2021-22* NHC East: Boston, Detroit, Montreal, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Toronto West: Anaheim, Chicago, Dallas, Las Vegas (2018-19), Los Angeles, Minnesota, St. Louis, Winnipeg WHC East: Buffalo, Carolina, Columbus, Florida, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Ottawa, Washington West: Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Nashville, Phoenix (AZ, yes, yes), San Jose, Seattle (NEW), Vancouver I also like to imagine a 4x4 alternative to the most recent realignment: NHC North: Boston, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto Atlantic: New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay Central: Chicago, Minnesota, St. Louis, Winnipeg Southwest: Anaheim, Dallas, Las Vegas, Los Angeles WHC Northeast: Buffalo, Ottawa, New Jersey, New York Islanders Southeast: Carolina, Columbus (like the nearby Colts in NFL, haha), Florida, Washington South: Colorado, Nashville, Phoe-Glen-Ari-tah, San Jose Northwest: Calgary, Edmonton, Seattle, Vancouver
@@closethockeyfan5284 1996 - Dainius Zubrus (15th pick, traded to Philly) GP - 1293 G - 228 P - 591 1997 - Roberto Luongo (4th pick, traded to NY Islanders) GP - 1044 W - 489 SO - 77 2001 - Michael Cammalleri (49th pick, traded to LA) GP - 906 G - 294 P - 642 2002 - Matthew Lombardi (90th pick, traded to Calgary) GP - 536 G - 101 P - 262 2003 - Mark Stuart (21st pick, traded to Boston via San Jose) GP - 673 G - 26 P - 93 2007 - Lars Eller (13th pick, traded to STL via San Jose) GP - 754 G - 132 P - 294 2008 - Colin Wilson (7th pick, traded to Nashville via NY Islanders) GP - 632 G - 113 P - 286 - Roman Josi (38th pick, traded to Nashville via Phoenix) GP - 632 G - 109 P - 413 2009 - Craig Smith (98th pick, traded to Nashville via NY Islanders) GP - 661 G - 162 P - 330 2010 - Tyler Seguin (2nd pick, traded to Boston) GP - 741 G - 279 P - 635 2011 - Dougie Hamilton (9th pick, traded to Boston) GP - 552 G - 96 P - 299 - John Gibson (39th pick, traded to Anaheim) GP - 287 W - 139 SO - 19 - Josh Manson (160th pick, traded to Anaheim) GP - 385 G - 21 P - 97 2014 - Marcus Pettersson (38th pick, traded to Anaheim) GP - 175 G - 5 P - 51
I’m happy for you utah. It seems that after we called up that new goalie from our AHL affiliate Things have turnaround in a positive way… we don’t have a problem putting points on the board, and now we have a goalie who doesn’t let many in. ( also wondering if these players are playing to their highest caliber since they are now treated like the professional athletes they deserve to always have been treated but Phoenix could not do that…So it’s like a rebirth for everybody
As I joked when Wahlstrom was on waivers; I said Sweeney would pick him up because he's a local boy. Being a Bruins GM is so easy: scout HockeyEast and local talent, and call it a day.
Hmmm... The Colorado Avalanche had an 8 game winning streak in their "Inaugural Season". If they are going to count this as Utah's inaugural season, then every team's records should start from when they are moved. (Not that I really want Colorado to lose their Quebec history, was just more of making a point.)
The problem with that is Arizonas history stayed with Arizona because their franchise is deactivated so it's not technically a relocation. Colorado and others have their franchises history while Utah does not
@@justjohnny420 Except it is a relocation. They kept all of the same players. They can say that they don't have the franchise history, but in all of the videos (both THGs and any other Hockey bloggers on the internet), they talk about how they have changed since last season. If the NHL had really wanted this to be a "New Team", they should have dissolved all of the existing Coyote player contracts (making them all free agents), and then had an expansion draft like Seattle and Vegas had. They didn't do that, so they aren't an Expansion Team. Because they didn't do that, it is just a relocation with the NHL trying to put a spin on it.
@@soulknife20 The NHL considers them an expansion team. Regardless of all the "technicalities" fans like us like to use. Arizona lost a team dropping the NHL to 31 teams. Utah gained one increasing the NHL back to 32. The NHL has the final say and they say Expansion team. So that's that.
@@kurtwpg Name and logos: The NHL transferred the Jets' name, logos, and trademarks to the new Winnipeg Jets when the Coyotes became the Utah Hockey Club in 2024. Records: The original Jets' records followed the franchise to Arizona. Everything in Utah is brand new. New town, new owner, new name, new records, new history.
The Vancouver media keeps telling us the Canucks are an elite team. Their highest paid player, Elite Pete just dominated the Boston Bruins last night....lol
Meh .. I watch all the games too. He's gonna wind up like Teemu Pulkkinen, all that hype in GR but nothing in the big show. My money is he'll be out of the league in 3 years.
Thanks for the video! Cheap shot fines should start high ($50K) and double with repeat offenses. Drop the gloves if you want to go after someone. When the fines get into the millions, the cheap shots will end. Wahlstrom is a feel good claim. We'll see if it helps. Oh, good, the Islanders will be stronger versus the Blackhawks. I wonder if the Blackhawks can get another early lead to give up. Good for Mrazek. Bolts need a break. Huzzah for MacKinnon and Utah!
I can’t edit on my version.. but I think it should be 50k or 5% of your annual salary whatever is more. And then 7.5 and 10%. with a 3 strikes you’re out for the remaining time of the season.
Ovi is the 'Chuck Norris' of the NHL. I once saw a replay of him taking an errant puck to the side of the jaw while standing up at the bench, then shook it off like it was nothing They don't make crazy Russian men like Ovi anymore. So I'm not surprised that he's ahead of schedule with his recovery 😅😅😅
What about this, what about this, what about that
Yeah, and what about this and what about that? Unbelievable
He didn’t even mention that!!
What are you talking about? You didn't even mention the other. Are you even a fan?
Utah sets road record
Meanwhile the Sabres have been setting records in futility since 2011
10 in a row today
@@BenBowman97 I won't be surprised if this ages poorly. But leafs usually lose against the struggling teams that should be a given win
@@justjohnny420 we will see. Starting Levi wreaks of desperation
Ovi returning early is the least surprising surprise one can imagine.
"We are not going to let Oliver Wahlstrom go and get nothing in return" - Lou Lamoriello.
The waiver seemed like a bit of a tantrum. That young with a $1m contract I'm surprised he made it as far as Boston.
Mack Attack baby
Hi Shannon, I love your videos and have been a long time subscriber and fan of your work!! I know you plan your videos in advance but I’d love to see you rank the top 10 forward lines so far this season in a video! Thanks for all you do!!
I second this.
5:50 It's interesting: I actually wondered what if the NHL-WHA merger had gone like the NFL-AFL merger, where the AFL became the AFC and needed only a few NFL teams added to balance them. The WHA teams absorbed were far fewer, but I figure we could've ended up with a National Hockey Conference and a World Hockey Conference if some things had played out differently.
So in 1979, conferences I figure with the 21 teams would neatly fit the then 11 teams from the Surviving Six (not Original--don't erase numerous early teams) and the 1967 expansion for the NHC, with the subsequent expansion teams joining WHA clubs in the WHC as follows:
NHC
East: Boston, Montreal, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Toronto
West: Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minnesota, St. Louis
WHC
East: Buffalo, Hartford, New York Islanders, Quebec, Washington
West: Atlanta*, Colorado, Edmonton, Vancouver, Winnipeg
*Recall that Atlanta moved to Calgary within a year, anyway, which fits perfectly.
If we assume teams locked to their conferences as the NFL's teams have, along with movement and expansion teams exactly the same, then we could've ended up with these conferences and divisions along the timeline:
*1982-83*
East: Boston, Montreal, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Toronto
West: Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Minnesota, St. Louis
WHC
East: Buffalo, Hartford, New Jersey*, New York Islanders, Quebec, Washington
West: Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Winnipeg
*Thanks, Mickey Mouse.
*1992-93*
NHC
Atlantic: New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay (NEW)
East: Boston, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto
West: Chicago, Los Angeles, Minnesota, St. Louis
WHC
East: Hartford, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Washington
North: Buffalo, Ottawa (NEW), Quebec, Winnipeg
West: Calgary, Edmonton, San Jose (1991-92), Vancouver
*1993-94*
NHC
Atlantic: New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay
East: Boston, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto
West: Anaheim (NEW), Chicago, Dallas (RELOCATED), Los Angeles, St. Louis
WHC
East: Florida (NEW), Hartford, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Washington
North: Buffalo, Ottawa, Quebec, Winnipeg
West: Calgary, Edmonton, San Jose, Vancouver
*1996-97*
NHC same
WHC
East: Florida, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Washington
North: Buffalo, Colorado (RELOCATED 1995-96), Hartford (REALIGNED), Ottawa
West: Calgary, Edmonton, Phoenix (RELOCATED AND REALIGNED), San Jose, Vancouver
*1997-98*
NHC same
WHC
South: Carolina (RELOCATED AND REALIGNED), Colorado (REALIGNED), Florida, Washington
Northeast: Buffalo, New Jersey (REALIGNED), New York Islanders (REALIGNED), Ottawa
West: Calgary, Edmonton, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver
*1999-2000*
NHC
Atlantic: Atlanta (NEW), New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay
East: Boston, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto
West: Anaheim, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, St. Louis
WHC
South: Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Nashville (1998-99), Washington
Northeast: Buffalo, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Ottawa
West: Calgary, Edmonton, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver
*2000-01*
NHC
Atlantic: Atlanta, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay
North: Boston, Detroit, Minnesota (NEW), Montreal, Toronto
West: Anaheim, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, St. Louis
WHC
South: Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Nashville, Washington
Northeast: Buffalo, Columbus (NEW), New Jersey, New York Islanders, Ottawa
West: Calgary, Edmonton, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver
*2011-12*
NHC
Atlantic: Boston (REALIGNED), New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay
North: Detroit, Minnesota, Montreal, Toronto, Winnipeg (RELOCATED AND REALIGNED)
West: Anaheim, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, St. Louis
WHC
South: Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Nashville, Washington
Northeast: Buffalo, Columbus, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Ottawa
West: Calgary, Edmonton, Phoenix, San Jose, Vancouver
*2021-22*
NHC
East: Boston, Detroit, Montreal, New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, Toronto
West: Anaheim, Chicago, Dallas, Las Vegas (2018-19), Los Angeles, Minnesota, St. Louis, Winnipeg
WHC
East: Buffalo, Carolina, Columbus, Florida, New Jersey, New York Islanders, Ottawa, Washington
West: Calgary, Colorado, Edmonton, Nashville, Phoenix (AZ, yes, yes), San Jose, Seattle (NEW), Vancouver
I also like to imagine a 4x4 alternative to the most recent realignment:
NHC
North: Boston, Detroit, Montreal, Toronto
Atlantic: New York Rangers, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay
Central: Chicago, Minnesota, St. Louis, Winnipeg
Southwest: Anaheim, Dallas, Las Vegas, Los Angeles
WHC
Northeast: Buffalo, Ottawa, New Jersey, New York Islanders
Southeast: Carolina, Columbus (like the nearby Colts in NFL, haha), Florida, Washington
South: Colorado, Nashville, Phoe-Glen-Ari-tah, San Jose
Northwest: Calgary, Edmonton, Seattle, Vancouver
god bless your effort
@@YANILLIONAIRE Thanks! It's really just a fun thought exercise that I enjoy--guess I'm weird like that.😉
@@closethockeyfan5284 i did this recently with all the draft picks the leafs traded away in the 2000's 😂
@@closethockeyfan5284 1996 - Dainius Zubrus (15th pick, traded to Philly)
GP - 1293 G - 228 P - 591
1997 - Roberto Luongo (4th pick, traded to NY Islanders)
GP - 1044 W - 489 SO - 77
2001 - Michael Cammalleri (49th pick, traded to LA)
GP - 906 G - 294 P - 642
2002 - Matthew Lombardi (90th pick, traded to Calgary)
GP - 536 G - 101 P - 262
2003 - Mark Stuart (21st pick, traded to Boston via San Jose)
GP - 673 G - 26 P - 93
2007 - Lars Eller (13th pick, traded to STL via San Jose)
GP - 754 G - 132 P - 294
2008 - Colin Wilson (7th pick, traded to Nashville via NY Islanders)
GP - 632 G - 113 P - 286
- Roman Josi (38th pick, traded to Nashville via Phoenix)
GP - 632 G - 109 P - 413
2009 - Craig Smith (98th pick, traded to Nashville via NY Islanders)
GP - 661 G - 162 P - 330
2010 - Tyler Seguin (2nd pick, traded to Boston)
GP - 741 G - 279 P - 635
2011 - Dougie Hamilton (9th pick, traded to Boston)
GP - 552 G - 96 P - 299
- John Gibson (39th pick, traded to Anaheim)
GP - 287 W - 139 SO - 19
- Josh Manson (160th pick, traded to Anaheim)
GP - 385 G - 21 P - 97
2014 - Marcus Pettersson (38th pick, traded to Anaheim)
GP - 175 G - 5 P - 51
@@YANILLIONAIRE absolutely amazing, and I don't even see Kessel on the list, haha
I think wahlstrom could be a good add albeit his breakout has been expected for awhile
Nate , always MacKinnon it l👀k easy ! ❤ 👏
What about everybody is jealous of THG closet! His hats
This, that ...and the other thing.
Go Kings!!!
I’m happy for you utah.
It seems that after we called up that new goalie from our AHL affiliate Things have turnaround in a positive way… we don’t have a problem putting points on the board, and now we have a goalie who doesn’t let many in.
( also wondering if these players are playing to their highest caliber since they are now treated like the professional athletes they deserve to always have been treated but Phoenix could not do that…So it’s like a rebirth for everybody
As I joked when Wahlstrom was on waivers; I said Sweeney would pick him up because he's a local boy. Being a Bruins GM is so easy: scout HockeyEast and local talent, and call it a day.
Hmmm... The Colorado Avalanche had an 8 game winning streak in their "Inaugural Season".
If they are going to count this as Utah's inaugural season, then every team's records should start from when they are moved. (Not that I really want Colorado to lose their Quebec history, was just more of making a point.)
The problem with that is Arizonas history stayed with Arizona because their franchise is deactivated so it's not technically a relocation. Colorado and others have their franchises history while Utah does not
@@justjohnny420 Except it is a relocation. They kept all of the same players. They can say that they don't have the franchise history, but in all of the videos (both THGs and any other Hockey bloggers on the internet), they talk about how they have changed since last season.
If the NHL had really wanted this to be a "New Team", they should have dissolved all of the existing Coyote player contracts (making them all free agents), and then had an expansion draft like Seattle and Vegas had. They didn't do that, so they aren't an Expansion Team. Because they didn't do that, it is just a relocation with the NHL trying to put a spin on it.
@justjohnny420 that is such a ridiculous semantics argument lol
I'd love to see more of that out of Johnny Burgers, if he could add some sandpaper to his game, it would go a long way to keeping him in the national
Sharp Jersey!
OVI is unreal
Great video
Also, Sabres gettin' worked. Can that be a headline at this point?
Utah isn't an expansion team.
Wrong
@@FalconFBDT64Technically right. It isn't a new team. Just a relocated team. Expansion suggests a brand new team, like Vegas or Seattle.
@@soulknife20 The NHL considers them an expansion team. Regardless of all the "technicalities" fans like us like to use. Arizona lost a team dropping the NHL to 31 teams. Utah gained one increasing the NHL back to 32. The NHL has the final say and they say Expansion team. So that's that.
Only things that changed were the location and the ownership. Wouldn't that make the current incarnation of the Jets an "expansion" team in 2011 then?
@@kurtwpg Name and logos: The NHL transferred the Jets' name, logos, and trademarks to the new Winnipeg Jets when the Coyotes became the Utah Hockey Club in 2024.
Records: The original Jets' records followed the franchise to Arizona.
Everything in Utah is brand new. New town, new owner, new name, new records, new history.
The Vancouver media keeps telling us the Canucks are an elite team. Their highest paid player, Elite Pete just dominated the Boston Bruins last night....lol
LETS GOOO MAKEEYYYY
Utah records like that aren’t even really records; they’re just a relocated team they’re calling an expansion team
Berggren must be frustrated that Lalonde will randomly put him on the 4th line after getting nothing but praise for his effort so far this season
He isn't as good as he thinks, that's the problem.
@jchristner82 he's one of our best playmakers, he can hit Fischer or Veleno with a perfect pass and watch them flub the shot
@darkphoenix2 one of your best playmakers? Blame the other guys for flubbing their shot all you want but he has 2 assists this year
@@justjohnny420 yeah there's this thing called eyes and I use them when I watch hockey
Meh .. I watch all the games too. He's gonna wind up like Teemu Pulkkinen, all that hype in GR but nothing in the big show. My money is he'll be out of the league in 3 years.
Weren't the Avs considered an expansion team when they moved from Quebec? The Rockies had been gone for many years at that point.
Nope, just relocated. It was still the same organization.
Whally comes home
Vancouver Canucks fans
Thanks for the video! Cheap shot fines should start high ($50K) and double with repeat offenses. Drop the gloves if you want to go after someone. When the fines get into the millions, the cheap shots will end. Wahlstrom is a feel good claim. We'll see if it helps. Oh, good, the Islanders will be stronger versus the Blackhawks. I wonder if the Blackhawks can get another early lead to give up. Good for Mrazek. Bolts need a break. Huzzah for MacKinnon and Utah!
Yes, and the majority of the fine should go directly to the player affected. Very simple
I can’t edit on my version.. but I think it should be 50k or 5% of your annual salary whatever is more. And then 7.5 and 10%. with a 3 strikes you’re out for the remaining time of the season.
Utah Hockey Club: The only "Expansion" team in NHL history to never have an actual Expansion draft, at least to my knowledge.
They did not as they acquired an entire team
So many "records" are pretty meaningless. The Coyot....ooops, my bad, the Utah Hockey Club being the latest.
Ovi is the 'Chuck Norris' of the NHL. I once saw a replay of him taking an errant puck to the side of the jaw while standing up at the bench, then shook it off like it was nothing
They don't make crazy Russian men like Ovi anymore. So I'm not surprised that he's ahead of schedule with his recovery 😅😅😅
Bruins jersey again. Why do you subject your subscribers to this??
With a -20 goal differential they are this year’s Washington Capitols.
But, you must admit it's a gorgeous jersey, and I'm nowhere close to a Bruins fan.
@ I grew up in Nova Scotia and there’s so many Bruins fans I’m sick of them!!!