Amazing thing about Mariano's cutter is that it wasn't intended, it's something that just started happening to his fastball that they couldn't work out. It's funny that when he'd play catch with Ramiro Mendoza (one of the best long-relievers of the era), Mendoza was getting annoyed as if Mariano was trying to mess with him with that late movement, and Mariano wasn't. Just something about his natural finger pressure on what's supposed to be a straight 4-seamer. At a certain point they couldn't get it not to happen so he decided to just keep it since it was consistent....and then a dead-straight fastball thrower who would get lit up as a starter became the greatest reliever of all time.
Cutter salvaged Kershaw’s career. Now he’s just as effective as he was 8 years ago, which is incredible. Definitely a good pitch to throw for a sinker baller, as Jake was mentioning. Throwing front door sinkers at lefties’ front hip that scoots over the inside corner, then starting the cutter off the outside edge, making the hitter give up on the pitch, then it hits the outer edge. The cutter surprisingly is not a huge horizontal movement type of pitch. It’s more vertical movement than anything. Only an inch or two of side to side movement, which I thought was interesting.
5 minutes in and i started looking for Mariano Rivera comments... dude blew my mind throwing 1 pitch and dominating, gave up 1HR in 107ing in 1996 to jumpstart Yankees dynasty (+14 homerless innings in playoffs)... fax!!!
@@Galactic123 i'm not debating who's first. just saying that the amount of no-hitters (or close to it) that Halladay had, with the cutter being his main pitch, is very very impressive. Haven't seen those numbers since then. And Blue Jays sucked back then, also didn't get any media coverage, so a lot of it went unnoticed. Stats don't lie though.,
Just here to say that seeing Peavy again was great. I'm a big Giants fan and although Peavy was only with us for a short while it was always fun seeing his energy on the mound.
Where I recommend adding a cutter is if you have no 2-seamer because you struggle to get tail on the ball and then you can use it as your groundball double play pitch OR if you can't for the life of you figure out how to throw a consistent slider, then you can add a cutter in its place. There are ways to slow it down enough to be slider speed like tucking your thumb all the way, or spiking the grip. Now, I am a lefty, My fastball has an elite spin rate, and i can control it to all parts of the plate, however my favorite pitch is my cutter because... for some reason if i am behind in the count 2-0, 2-1, 3-1, & 3-0... the only pitch i can guaranteed get a strike on everytime is my cutter. I honestly recommend throwing one. You can set up sliders with it, you can set it up with a 2-seam, if you struggle getting your fastball in to an opposite handed hitter you can use it to open up that area of your game, and you can backdoor righties with it, frontdoor lefties with it(vice versa for a Right handed pitcher). While I get most my strikeouts on high fastballs.. about 30%+ of them come from throwing cutter followed by a slider. because you can throw a low and in cutter, then throw a slider aimed at the same spot and the hitter thinks they see it GREAT because the spin and location looks the same, but at the same point where the cutter cut, the slider cuts and drops 8-12 more inches than the cutter and they miss TERRIBLY because they swung at the location of the previous pitch.. its GLORIOUS. for example see trevor bauers video on the pitch combo of cutter/slider. and a true hard cutter is rare in every level except the MLB so you can reliably use it to get double plays because the hitter reads 4-seam and it cuts and they get jammed or swing on the top of it and roll over. And so if you throw it 25% of the time, you can really avoid hitters barrelling it up. Especially if they begin to read your 4-seam well, you can throw that wrinkle in and all of a sudden you have them in the palm of your hand.
This is like discussing the skyhook but not mentioning kareem lol. All due respect to the players that have incorporated that pitch into their repertoire, but one man threw it like no other. MO RIVERA
Ted Williams - first two strikes, look for the pitch you want to swing at. After that swing at anything close Great hitters are looking for a certain trajectory and swinging for death like a shark rolling it's eyes back at the moment of strike. Too many pitchers overthink their strategy. Just throw hard and keep a fast pace. Don't stand on the mound like Gandhi on a hunger strike. Pitch fast, make the batter discombobulated
Having a forced cutter will never be as effective as the 4-seam cutter. Just move your hands a little to the right from your fastball grip, press lightly on the seam with your middle finger, and have your thumb close to the seam without touching. Follow the later with the ring and pinky. Mo’s cutter that a lot of pitchers use today.
I think the cutter is popular because pitchers are regularly throwing 98-101… you need something for the guys that throw 93-95… a simple 4 seam just doesn’t work as well as a nice moving cutter
Yes, I am Roger Beshens. LOL I just talked with Musgrove and Clevinger June 28 vs dbacks in centefield 2 hours before game, and July 10 told Rockies scout Steve Foster about it the Marquez Gilbert game behind the plate.
They say something in here late in the video that they kinda brush over but it’s actually so true atleast in mlb “You throw down and away in todays game, if it’s not perfectly executed that ball is right there for full extension and you’re getting taken yard” Kinda crazy to see now pitchers are throwing cutters and sliders 90+ mph that starts AT batters and run in for strikes. Would be interesting if that’s a factor in the increase in hit batters we see now
Original cutter should be very close to the same speed as your fastball. You simply apply more pressure with one finger than the other instead of equal pressure. You can 'cut' the ball the opposite direction by switching which finger you are applying more pressure with. This guy is talking about a change up curve.
Give me a break. All this 8 minute talk about cutters and you fail to mention the name of the pitcher that made the cutter one of the most lethal pitches? Mariano Rivera, who BY THE WAY, thought Roy Halladay how to throw it.
There is no gyro ball or Sweeper. Inside the lines it's called the Roger Beshens influenced Football Slider. It's thrown like a football, stiff wrist with an on center grip. The seam shifted BS is a joke. A football slider can be shaped by the neutral or slightly cupped wrist, therefore seam orientation is meaningless. A pitcher any given game can use 2 or 4 seam, whichever feels best. How you like those apples? LOL Detherosa
love Peavys enthusiasm and willing to have fun explaning
Amazing thing about Mariano's cutter is that it wasn't intended, it's something that just started happening to his fastball that they couldn't work out. It's funny that when he'd play catch with Ramiro Mendoza (one of the best long-relievers of the era), Mendoza was getting annoyed as if Mariano was trying to mess with him with that late movement, and Mariano wasn't. Just something about his natural finger pressure on what's supposed to be a straight 4-seamer. At a certain point they couldn't get it not to happen so he decided to just keep it since it was consistent....and then a dead-straight fastball thrower who would get lit up as a starter became the greatest reliever of all time.
Really good breakdown by peavy, great addition to the network
Yeah he's really good at breaking it down
Peavy was always fun to watch! Miss seeing him pitch
Cutter salvaged Kershaw’s career. Now he’s just as effective as he was 8 years ago, which is incredible. Definitely a good pitch to throw for a sinker baller, as Jake was mentioning. Throwing front door sinkers at lefties’ front hip that scoots over the inside corner, then starting the cutter off the outside edge, making the hitter give up on the pitch, then it hits the outer edge. The cutter surprisingly is not a huge horizontal movement type of pitch. It’s more vertical movement than anything. Only an inch or two of side to side movement, which I thought was interesting.
It did the same thing to burnes… he went from a high 8 era to a cy young award in a year or 2
5 minutes in and i started looking for Mariano Rivera comments... dude blew my mind throwing 1 pitch and dominating, gave up 1HR in 107ing in 1996 to jumpstart Yankees dynasty (+14 homerless innings in playoffs)... fax!!!
Mariano Rivera and Roy Halladay took the cutter to that next level, as a must-pitch-to-have for right-hand pitchers.
Why not lefty pitchers?
@@kylergoodson1961 because there are more right handed batters than left handed
How do you have a conversation about the cutter and not mention the GOAT cutter Mariano Rivera?
This whole history of the cutter was an absolute joke. The song you are looking for is Enter Sandman. Wtf!🤣
I was thinking the exact same thing and it wasn't even half over
Or Roy Halladay, potentially GOAT of the cutter aswell
@@ImpulsiveWandering Halladay actually learned his cutter from Mariano
@@Galactic123 i'm not debating who's first. just saying that the amount of no-hitters (or close to it) that Halladay had, with the cutter being his main pitch, is very very impressive. Haven't seen those numbers since then. And Blue Jays sucked back then, also didn't get any media coverage, so a lot of it went unnoticed. Stats don't lie though.,
Clase’s 101 mph cutter is scary AS!
103 mph cutter
Just here to say that seeing Peavy again was great. I'm a big Giants fan and although Peavy was only with us for a short while it was always fun seeing his energy on the mound.
Honored to say I homered off Peavy back in the day…MLB the Show 2011
Where I recommend adding a cutter is if you have no 2-seamer because you struggle to get tail on the ball and then you can use it as your groundball double play pitch OR if you can't for the life of you figure out how to throw a consistent slider, then you can add a cutter in its place. There are ways to slow it down enough to be slider speed like tucking your thumb all the way, or spiking the grip.
Now, I am a lefty, My fastball has an elite spin rate, and i can control it to all parts of the plate, however my favorite pitch is my cutter because...
for some reason if i am behind in the count 2-0, 2-1, 3-1, & 3-0... the only pitch i can guaranteed get a strike on everytime is my cutter. I honestly recommend throwing one. You can set up sliders with it, you can set it up with a 2-seam, if you struggle getting your fastball in to an opposite handed hitter you can use it to open up that area of your game, and you can backdoor righties with it, frontdoor lefties with it(vice versa for a Right handed pitcher).
While I get most my strikeouts on high fastballs.. about 30%+ of them come from throwing cutter followed by a slider. because you can throw a low and in cutter, then throw a slider aimed at the same spot and the hitter thinks they see it GREAT because the spin and location looks the same, but at the same point where the cutter cut, the slider cuts and drops 8-12 more inches than the cutter and they miss TERRIBLY because they swung at the location of the previous pitch.. its GLORIOUS. for example see trevor bauers video on the pitch combo of cutter/slider.
and a true hard cutter is rare in every level except the MLB so you can reliably use it to get double plays because the hitter reads 4-seam and it cuts and they get jammed or swing on the top of it and roll over. And so if you throw it 25% of the time, you can really avoid hitters barrelling it up. Especially if they begin to read your 4-seam well, you can throw that wrinkle in and all of a sudden you have them in the palm of your hand.
Sacrilegious to talk about the best cutter and not mention the GOAT 🐐
Never have seen a cutter until college ball, and damn it’s effective. Just requires yet another level of focus at the plate
Thought the opposing pitcher was a fuckin sorcerer first time I saw one 😂😂😂😂
It's awesome what a mental game pitching is, and all of the best pitchers are hyper aware of other pitcher's techniques and throwing mechanisms.
loved peavy on the giants
Great insights from Jake
This is like discussing the skyhook but not mentioning kareem lol. All due respect to the players that have incorporated that pitch into their repertoire, but one man threw it like no other. MO RIVERA
Ted Williams - first two strikes, look for the pitch you want to swing at. After that swing at anything close
Great hitters are looking for a certain trajectory and swinging for death like a shark rolling it's eyes back at the moment of strike.
Too many pitchers overthink their strategy. Just throw hard and keep a fast pace. Don't stand on the mound like Gandhi on a hunger strike. Pitch fast, make the batter discombobulated
That’s why I liked about scherzer
I really miss Mark Buehrle.
Love these types of videos! Hope to add some more pitching knowledge to my channel!
Having a forced cutter will never be as effective as the 4-seam cutter. Just move your hands a little to the right from your fastball grip, press lightly on the seam with your middle finger, and have your thumb close to the seam without touching. Follow the later with the ring and pinky. Mo’s cutter that a lot of pitchers use today.
The cutter is my favorite pitch and probably my best pitch when I was pitching in high school.
Mo had the best cutter in history.
Best pitch in the show
Yeah 2007 it was fairly new, yet Rivera was using it since the late 1990’s 🧐
Yes the cutters origins date back over 50 years but until the 2000’s it was a very uncommon pitch. Mo discovered his cutter accidentally lol
Mariano's cutter is KING👑
I think the cutter is popular because pitchers are regularly throwing 98-101… you need something for the guys that throw 93-95… a simple 4 seam just doesn’t work as well as a nice moving cutter
Yes, I am Roger Beshens. LOL I just talked with Musgrove and Clevinger June 28 vs dbacks in centefield 2 hours before game, and July 10 told Rockies scout Steve Foster about it the Marquez Gilbert game behind the plate.
Great having Peavy now
Love Jake Peavy ☺️
They should have definitely shown clase with his 102 cutter
Nobody competed harder than Peavy.. wish we could’ve had his prime year on the southside..
They say something in here late in the video that they kinda brush over but it’s actually so true atleast in mlb
“You throw down and away in todays game, if it’s not perfectly executed that ball is right there for full extension and you’re getting taken yard”
Kinda crazy to see now pitchers are throwing cutters and sliders 90+ mph that starts AT batters and run in for strikes. Would be interesting if that’s a factor in the increase in hit batters we see now
ayye as a short stunt w the phillies loved it when he slipped Roy Holladay in there RIP HOF Pitcher fs
What jordan 1's is Peavy waring ?
How do you not include Emmanuel Clase’s cutter in this video
Nice video! I guess it just is "the MLB" now, cause the NFL is the NFL and the NBA is the NBA.
He looks and kind of sounds like Phil Labonte from All That Remains
What shoes are those peavy has?
great
Cortes?
Peavy has a great speaking voice
Is anyone going to mention the whole starting pitchers for the Yankees
Eh Cole lately has scrubbed his cutter but Cortes yeah
Literally missing the best cutter this season w nasty Nestor
Mariano had a filthy cutter
Love it, but ……. How do you have a Cutter segment and not mention Rivera ??? Lol even from a historical perspective
Because these two clowns don’t know anything about baseball 😊
Mo had the best cutter ever
why no bartolo?
def put the B Team on the editing for this one
kids... master the 2 seam/cutter/change combo and your arm will thank you later in life
Great advice, don’t force your wrist and elbow at young age. Stick with changing the grip en the ball.
Original cutter should be very close to the same speed as your fastball. You simply apply more pressure with one finger than the other instead of equal pressure. You can 'cut' the ball the opposite direction by switching which finger you are applying more pressure with. This guy is talking about a change up curve.
Hated seeing Tyler Anderson dominate the Cards lol
Jake reminds me of Dave from Barstools lol
0:19 heh eh eh eh eh eh
What does Hawkeye know about cutters?
Emanuel Clase?
That thing is so far beyond a normal cutter. Good call.
Peavy doesn't like latin guys. Never mencioneded Mariano Rivera 🤔
Give me a break. All this 8 minute talk about cutters and you fail to mention the name of the pitcher that made the cutter one of the most lethal pitches? Mariano Rivera, who BY THE WAY, thought Roy Halladay how to throw it.
How could you talk about cutter without mentioning MO smh
Hello
POV u watched the video live
Ima knuckleball guy myself…lol
No mention of Mo. WTF
How do you talk about the cutter without talking about Mo
The outright disrespect to Rivera best cutter ever
if you're talking cutters....there's only one man who is the master of it... one man, one pitch.....Mr. Sandman...Mariano Rivera
cutters dont rise?
This segment better pray to Mariano Rivera for forgiveness
0:18 who is laughing here
I used to love throwing a cutter in high school. 97 4 seamer and follow it up with an 85 mph cutter. Impossible to hit
DeRosa needs to stop interrupting Peavy.
Dude cut off peavy way too much.
There is no gyro ball or Sweeper. Inside the lines it's called the Roger Beshens influenced Football Slider. It's thrown like a football, stiff wrist with an on center grip. The seam shifted BS is a joke. A football slider can be shaped by the neutral or slightly cupped wrist, therefore seam orientation is meaningless. A pitcher any given game can use 2 or 4 seam, whichever feels best. How you like those apples? LOL Detherosa
This was great up until the stupid ending
I like the breakdown, but these two feel like they're constantly trying to interrupt each other...just relax a bit
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MLB goes emo
Melancons cutter is horrible
Nobody cares about MLB anymore. Too 'woke.'