The people of America have the absolute authority and obligation to govern what happens in our nation with very few exception. Truly the AYN RAND leave it to the marketplace ideas have failed miserably. Alan Greenspan actually apologized to Congress and the American people for following her idea. The PEOPLE get exactly the government that they deserve. SO rather than complain get involved and force the changes that you know are necessary for survival of America.
We'll get to see if Thom's timeline and prediction come true. Judging from the port shape of most national and international economies he could be spot on.
" In a country of people who are properly governed , poverty is something to be ashamed of . In a country of people who are improperly governed , being rich is something to be ashamed of ". - Confucius .
Thom is an amazingly knowledgeable man, he clearly studied the US system thoroughly and he genuinely wants to find solutions to make it work but I think he dismisses the devastating impacts that the profit motivations have on our hypothetical survival and the environmental factors that may make that survival possible or not. Profits don't give a damn about the Amazonian forest, or the levels of air and water pollution, in fact profits don't even carte about us, our well being and our chances of survival, they couldn't be happier when we murder each other by the millions or create bugs that could wipe us out completely and now those profits are used to protect more profits and to buy those who actually could do something about it and they convinced the citizens that anything else is communism and we're all gonna die... Capitalism has gone insane, it has been allowed to regulate itself but the words enough, human, sustainability, survival, hope, regulations and long term planning had all previously been removed from the language and consequential factors by a team of pros paid with the profits to protect the profits, communism failed in a few weeks, we could watch it agonize and die on TV but it didn't kill millions, capitalism is dying too but it is so pernicious and genocidal it will kill millions or all of us but so slowly, we won't realize it until it's too late, just like the frog in cold water. Well my friends, we have failed, the human experiment was doomed from the beginning by the stupidity, gullibility and greed genes, I hope next time we can do better, if we went so far as to knowingly cause the destruction of the only environment capable of sustaining life, we weren't worthy of it so goodbye my friends, maybe in some other cycle.
we must stop this tragedy from happening it's so horrible what these people are doing so despicable they are. it is absolutely disgraceful that we are not doing so much more to stop this bullshit corruption.
I don't understand why Thom Hartmann talks about the rich trying to establish an oligarchy when that seems to have already happened. The question is how to tear that down and establish democracy.
being a blackman i never bought into the system, couldnt find a living wage job, i was homeless and saw a book on home repair, so i went to the library read books on home building and building codes, a drunk driver totaled my car[my home]and i used the money to build a 1 bedroom home...moral of the story dont give the federal reserve[rothchild bank] interest debt..buy a used car no debt...live within your means.all you need is 5 million people standing together in the streets and you can force the government to bring back industry to america...CAPITALISM doesnt work because of GREED!!!!!!!!!!
Thom: Wonderful ideas. I especially enjoy your use of the term 'Commons'. A much needed concept! We seem to be reaching the top of a debt cycle. What do you think is the right direction for the monetary system to go? Public banking. Jubilee? Print our own money? Gold based? End fractional reserve banking?
Conspiracy theories so often come true when more information is ferreted out on the issue. I like the idea of "if there is any doubt, there is no doubt". Hartmann certainly seems to know his stuff. I think we will have to go through the upheaval of another financial/social collapse before the pitch forks get dusted off again. Too bad. I read from the words of a philosopher who once said, "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. " or words such as these. Glass-Steagle, Sherman anti trust, etc. are the things that keep the Koch's up at night and let the rest of us sleep peacefully.
How long are the people going to tolerate this. I mean come on dude, seriously. Trickle Down Economic! Really!! You believe that.How stupid are you.I guess greed doesn't exist. And the desire for power is an innate thing.
it would make more sense to have someone who actually knows how to invest to lead decision making when it comes to money. If not you have what we have now: Trillions of dollars in debt with budget cuts still adding to our debt and unrestricting foreign aid to countries that don't even like us while our own infrastructure needs to be improved. We need to invest in our own country before we give billions in foreign aid to others.
So a 1-2% budget cut is painful but a financial crash caused by the inability to service our debt is fine? I don't understand that "logic". The idea that a society can live beyond its means forever makes no sense economically or mathematically. And why not start with small cuts rather than take a meat axe when the SHTF.
The US Government is not a household - money is created by computer keystrokes. yes, there are potential inflationary constraints, but there is not a financial constraint. Where do you think the $29 trillion used to back the financial system during the crisis came from?
I didn't think it possible! you know less about persuasion than you do about how the monetary system operates! But, hey, I guess opposable thumbs are not a prerequisite for using a keyboard.
It is so tiresome to hear again and again the credit given to Dwight Eisenhower for his empty rhetoric in the last days of his office about the "military, industrial complex." The man had eight years in office in which he served as a flunky for the Dulles brothers' CIA and the Pentagon. He did nothing to stem the tide of US militarism. Then, at the end of his presidency, to bolster his shabby legacy, he gave a warning that George Washington gave almost two hundred years earlier, in his farewell address!
How can this clip of your own show Democracy Now be blocked for copywrite infringement when you, Democracy Now, are the one who uploaded it? Kinda fishy.
UPDATE SEPT. 2014: various news sources report that 110 MILLION Americans now receive government assistance. This total EXCEEDS those in full-time private sector jobs. We now have approx. 1/3 of the population engaged in PRODUCTIVE labor (sorry, public sector is NOT considered "productive"), who are supporting 1/3 on welfare. Oh, the last 1/3 includes government employees, military, retirees, & kids. So, the ACTUAL TOTAL receiving ALL FORMS of government payments is EVEN HIGHER ! For this reason alone, the Federal debt will CONTINUE TO CLIMB beyond $18 TRILLION !
Not to belittle her intelligence and her work but I have always found Amy goodman to be such a pretty lady in a distinguished Intellectual way. Awesome stuff love thom :p
I just wonder how much one can take the word of people who still appear to take terms like "republican" and "democrat" seriously. I don't miss amy or dn, gave them up years ago when they were clearly defending the official stories of 9/11 and refusing to do their jobs. They are useless. But I consider this the mainstreaming of the coming crash
Every time load it on my phone it said it was blocked in my country. Very odd... It was posted from my phone and still won't play on it with the same error that it has been blocked? I don't get it.
I agree the there will be a depression soon. My life saving are in an IRA. What stocks and bonds do you recommend to weather the coming economic storm?
***** I was asking for THOM'S advise. There are strategies for investing in a prerecession environment; these are well known. I was wanting Thom's particular slant.
1disaffected Please let me know what the strategies are because by keeping all in cash with inflation, even if it is claimed not to exist, will make you slowly poorer.
1disaffected Get Peter Schiff's book, "Crash Proof". Soon! Once the Bernake bond bubble bursts and the USD is no longer the world's reserve currency, it'll be too late to dump dollars. You can consider transferring all or part of your IRA to Perth gold certificates which are backed by gold. Gold and silver just made a major correction and are much cheaper than a couple years ago. Commodity prices and utilities will go way up. ETF's and stock in companies that benefit from these higher commodity prices should do well. The oil sector is cheap now because of the correction in oil prices. Swiss Francs is an option. Many of the world's currencies may deflate, but none as bad as ours. Good luck> Also, when the stock mkt crashes, the bond mkt may rally and seem like the best and safest option, because it always has been in the past. Don't do it! When the bond bubble bursts, it will fall too fast to exit, unless you're a day trader. These are some ideas you may want to explore.
We do NOT need to tax ANYONE more. The reason the 1% got so disparately rich is because of the existence of a government and central banking. The 1% have a lot of excess money to invest YES/TRUE. Central banks artificially fix interest rates very low and print a whole lot of money to keep the housing bubble and stock bubbles going, it also allows governments to deficit spend to infinity and promise the world with retirement schemes paid for with the colateral of generations unborn. Governments can fund big wars without needing to even ask for taxes they just erode the purchasing power away from everyone by stealth of quantitative easing. Governments pass so many regulations such as requirements for packaging, FDA regulations etc that only the large multinational corporations have the capital to roll with the punches and stay functioning, it shuts out small businesses from entry. Governments create the monopolies and IS ITSELF A MONOPOLY on the use of force, schools, healthcare, the court system it forces people through an imaginary "social contract" to pay taxes to all of these services that we all have no choice over better alternatives. Without a government there would be a true competitive market that would rely on retaining good workers therefore wages would be in line with productivity. Blame big governement DO NOT advocate for more of the same CANCER / BIG GOVERNMENT! PLEASE! - 2 cents from a libertarian
The US Dollar is no longer the default currency for oil transactions globally, why? Is it because the U$ Dollar is worthle$$? That's a really fundamental change and it's from the theft of real value to such an extreme there is no recovery for the worst Depression ever, my mom lived through the first one and rural areas did ok because everybody grew their own food. The cities had the soup lines, to her today's Depression is worse because it affects everyone. Consider that what's going on in the USA under criminal control is called "Austerity" in Europe, eh?
Byron Jones Look the "facts"? what facts are you looking at you stupid fool? I am not an American, but do you even know why the founding fathers fought for this country? they rebelled against Great Britain because they were slaves to the empire ie big government, and they were slaves because of all the heavy taxation, which meant they kept very little of what they earned. Why did you think all the early immigrants left their respective countries in Europe and Asia to risk it all on America? it was because they had freedom, they were free to keep what they earned and capitialism allowed the country to thrive and made America the wealthiest nation on earth, with very limited government. I bet you don't even know how to define capitalism, pick up any book by an Austrian economist like Henry Hazlitt or Murray Rothbard instead of being programmed by the mainstream media you sheep.
Yet look at the state of capitalism in the US today. They're in a worse state than us. But you don't want to know that...as long as a tiny few can make themselves very rich at the expense of the hard work of others...and avoid billions in taxes. The mainstream media are owned by no more than 6 capitalist magnates. Or did you not know that. You embarrass yourself by your comments....grow a pair, will you
If people stick together, none of this will happen. People must go back to the fundamentals, the way this country formed, (of, by and for the people). Sadly, the word 'People' has been replaced by the word 'Business.' There must be a rudimental common denominator that all Americans can feel and understand. Imagine if people refused to shop, work, or do anything for a week, what would happen? They must suffer for a little while to get what they want, nothing comes easy, certainly not change. No rich person will ever feel the poor person's pain.
I like Amy. Think she does a good job. But she stepped on Thom’s toes quite a bit in this interview, asking her next question as he was finishing his statement. Sone of the ends of his statements had very important words which needed to be heard.
The waste isn't in big corporations that need to be broken up. Unless our gov't deems them too big to fail and bails them out. That's not free mkt capitalism. It's corporatism. But the bulk of the waste that will cause the collapse is in a big centralized government that needs to be broken up. It is far less efficient than the worst of the corporatists. Gov't bails itself out every month by printing more money. Increasing the money supply 400% in the last 6 years, the federal reserve has sunk us on purpose. It's the Bernake bond bubble. And the central banks have done the same to much of the rest of the world. It is part of their plan to enslave us and set up a new world order that Bill Clinton and George Bush have openly supported. The solution, although probably too late, would be a return to free markets. A return to the constitution. And a severe recession or depression that allows the mkt to correct. A return to gold backed money as well, which means we would have to burn trillions, which we can't because we owe too much to be able to remove money from circulation. Want to survive? Dump dollars and buy gold and silver and pray that the gov't doesn't confiscate it as in 1929. Swiss francs is another option. The USD is a bubble. It will collapse as soon as it is replaced as the world's reserve currency, which is already happening.
Heard this free market apologia too many times to count - it's not the system, it's corruption. Ever allow yourself to consider the seeds for corruption, oligopoly and corporatism are an inherency of free market capitalism?
The seeds of corruption are indeed inherent in human nature. Add to that nature power, and you find that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Right now the federal government has consolidated and expanded its power to a point where there is no accountability. No longer checks and balances. Prosecutorial misconduct from the leaders in the Justice Dept. is a particularly scary development as laws are only enforced against political dissidents. The corporatism we both oppose begins and ends with government and politician. If they were not willing participants, it could not occur. Our government can not solve the problem until it first acknowledges that it is the problem. Until then, we're all in denial if we expect things to get better. Like you said, 'It's not the system.'
the only way we can stop this cycle is to dismantle and decentralise government. building our own lives and communities away from those who can't wake up.
Thom Hartman's statement that Hoover did nothing to avert the great depression is factualy incorrect and totally misleading - In four years of Hoover's government till FDR took over the administration increased the government spending level by 48% as well as funding financial institutions and broadening the hand of federal government. It also substantially raised import duties on thousands of imported goods.
He does fix that but when does say it was on the last 2 years of his terms but it was already full out depression no thanks to Calvin Coolidge who practiced Reaganomics before it existed.
Juan Lopez The statement tat the depression was caused by reaganomics is a wild one. Just how did this happen? The big issues in the economy were the actions of government mainly the policy of restricting credit, interfering in the natural prices particulaly gold prices when gold was a world wide currency. The government outlawed the holding of gold by US citizens and compulsorary acquisition of gold at a government determined US dollar price and then a relaxation of the restrictions at a price higher than what it was conficated at. That is a tax in itself. That massive interference caused massively increased unemployment which had actually been dropping from it's high point but then reversed to continue higher.. ! One only has to question why a government which has it's own currency would want to outlaw it citizens from holding or trading in gold. It points to a failure of its own monetary policy if it has to outlaw a competing money. Totalitarianism action by a so called democratic government. No wonder the depression went on for almost another decade in the US. And now you want to blame reaganomics which essentially resulted in lower taxes and increased revenue for the government from expanded growth.
Rob Mews Talk about distorting the record of the great satan Reagan. So half the voting public has been hoodwinked to believe in REAGAN SOCIALISM that has been giving the 1% all our money. And they want the 1% to have even more. They believe in ReaganVooDooTrickleDownGoldenShowerPizzOnYou economics 101. And they do not want someone in the Senate who will fight for the interests of the 99%. Reagan increased the size of govt 191%,, He increased spending to match .. All it takes to dispell the GOP myth of Republicans spending less is to do a little reading , a little history. 1945-1980 the bottom 90% of US grew our incomes by 75% (adjusted). Next 28 years of Reaganomics? 1% The history of Ronald Reagan should be written that he was nothing more than a tool to harm the nation. He tripled our debt, he sold weapons to enemies and he started the war against the nation by bringing in trickle down. The man is a disgrace. Since Reagan the Americans have suffered. Republicans and those who vote Republicans are nothing more than tories, red coats, the buffoons and suckers who kissess rich man's ass and exist for no other reason than to kiss rich man's ass. It's obscene and it's worse than pornography. Dispel the Reagan myth. Multiple tax increases, a balloted budget, giant increase to government and deficits. Reagan beyond being a failure as a President was someone that should have been arrested for crimes against humanity for what he did in central america. Reagan was the first president to politicize the CIA. He told the CIA to lie to Congress by telling Congress that the Soviet Union was a very wealthy country, so he can con money out of Congress. The Soviet Union was on it's way to a collapse long before Reagan took office. Kurschev already told Nixon the model in the Soviet Union was not working. Mikhail Gorbachev spoke in a US community, one of only two communities he gave a speech at in the United States. At the speech, Gorbachev blew the Reagan myth out of the waters. Gorbachev blamed himself for not acting quick enough to transform the former Soviet Union into a new model. The Cold War was long gone and over before Reagan came onto the scene. The Soviet Union knew it was a matter of time. It was Reagan who lied, nothing new there, lied about the economic conditions in the former Soviet Union. Did I miss anything?
Rob Mews Reagan a steaming pile Ronald Reagan represents all of the worst elements of the American political experience of the last 50 years. All of them. He was, and always will be, nothing but a steaming hot pile of filthy hyena puke. Intellectually, Reagan gave chimpy a run for his money. He was vacuous. He was shallow. He was incurious. He was a puppet and a door stop for a group of sick ideologues who really ran the country. He was a bad actor and foolish tool. Ideologically, he was a hater and an imperialist and far-right loony-tune. He hated the poor. He hated gays. He hated leftists. He hated communists - and he was pretty sure you were one if you disagreed with him. He hated and he hated and he hated. Just ask his own kids. He hated them and himself and his ex-wife. Ronald Reagan was a twisted unrepentant closed-minded waste-bag hate monger. And that's just for starters. The foreign policy of Ronald Reagan did more to impoverish and kill the poor and helpless humans of the world than any world leader before or since - with the possible exception of our Bush. Reagan just didn't give a hoot. He was going to defeat communism (which was already falling of its own weight) and he didn't care how many children were burned alive or how many people starved to death on the way. Let em die. Reagan was a friggen dirtbag. On Reagan's watch the military budget of the U.S. grew to the proportions of a heaping pile of 10,000 week-old dead and bloated Blue Whales. And it stunk just as bad. The practice of rewarding incompetent cronies with gigantic useless contracts for unneeded military hardware was elevated to art form under Reagan. Reagan's legendary megalomania, hubris and abject ignorance led him to believe the tales of any crackpot who managed to slither past the goons who comprised his inner circle. Star-wars missiles, atomic shields, space-age death rays. You name it - that loon would fall for it - and blow billions of your tax dollars on it. And on the domestic front - holy crap the domestic front. Ronald Reagan was a force for the rampaging evil of anti-human destructiveness. He never met a social program he didn't scorn. He never met an American in need he didn't have a bowel movement directly upon. His response to the AIDS epidemic is one of the most sickening cold-blooded expressions of pure murderous political evil in the history of the earth. Genghis Khan could only dream of such depravity and indifference to human suffering. There is so much more, but, hell, if you don't already know about this crap, then go read a book or two. Then there was Iran-Contra - the infamous orgy of unfettered criminality at the heart of the Reagan legacy. Again, look it up. Rogues, liars, crooks, murderers and ignorant heartless scum surrounded Reagan at all times. Ali Babba would've been shamed. But Ronald Reagan was shameless. Oh, did I mention The War on Drugs and it's ballooning of the prison/criminal industrial complex and the rise of brainless goon-like authoritarianism? Or the destruction of the modern labor movement including the cowardly firing of the Air Traffic Controllers? Or the beginnings of the current trend of packing the Judiciary with corrupt freakish pseudo-fascist stoolies? Or the repugnant rapes of Lebanon and Grenada? Or the dim-witted goofball junk science that came to known as "Reaganomics?" Or grant rigging at the Department of Housing and Urban Development? Or James Watt and the whole-hearted attempt to destroy the earth and all its inhabitants at the expense of greed mongers and corporate whores? Or the largest white collar theft in the history of planet Earth - the Savings and Loan Bailout? And on and on and on and on. So let me conclude, Ronald Reagan will forever be remembered as one of the most idiotic, vile, worthless leaders of any any nation in any era. He presently occupies a special place in Hell beside Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. And I promise you, they all think he's an idiot too. Screw Ronald Reagan. And then screw him again.
The privatization of government services is to gain government corruption for private enterprise. The efficiency of private enterprise is corruption. We need the government, though corrupt, as competition to the efficiency of private enterprise.
Hartman is wrong about unemployment in the depression. Hoover's action in spending did not reduce unemployment by his direct recruitment policy anounced in 1933. The unemployment statistics show that the rate in 1928 was 4.2 % then 8.9 in 1930 and 23.6% in 1932 then 21.7 % in 1934 then 16.9% in 1936 and up agin in 1938 to 19%. After that war in Europe greatly affected the unemployment rate with manpower being required for contracted and then armies. That does not show that Hoover's policies would work again or did work then. In fact it points to a gross failure if you compare it to the policies of the early 1920's.
I think there are two parts of the table being feed and eating everything - this includes the very base of the system and the very stop of this system - agree the middle is getting squeezed.
Today there are a documented 155 million Americans "in the workforce." There are a documented 102 million working-age, able-bodied Americans "out-of-the-workforce." Another 58 million Americans are too old, too young or unwilling to work. Divide 102 by 257 (155 + 102) and you get a 40% unemployment rate.
The "arctic methane bomb" theory is now widely disputed and discredited even by members of the IPCC. But I love how they sneak in AGW nonsense in with some real truth about politics and the economic situation strangling us all.
History's Algebra: The Pendulum. The tragedy (1936) and the farce (2016). [Mussolini+Hitler+Franco] + [80 years] = [Netanyahu+Trump+(Putin/Assad)] respectively. Aleppo as Guernica before 80 years. ("Anatomy of a Tragedy" 1985.)
Thom, most libertarians are not Republicans, so it is irresponsible to lump the two together. The federal government is bad at everything. I can't think of one thing they are good at, other than taxing the shit out of the middle class and job creators. They are also great at letting the Federal Reserve and the banking system destroy our currency. You don't need the government to regulate. Those regulations are written by the same people they are supposed to protect us from, so what good does that do? You have to let the market regulate it. Don't bring back Glass Steagal, just don't bail the banks out when they crash this next time. Maybe if some depositors lose their deposits, they might pay attention to what the banks are doing with their money, or not put their money in banks at all. The one place I worry about not having any regulations is the environment. Technically, if you enforce strict property right laws, then you wouldn't be able to pollute someone else's property, but I don't know how that would work with the arctic drilling that you talked about. I suppose we would just have to hope that the people doing the drilling would listen to reason if the science is clearly pointing the direction you are going. I know that a good government would be great, but we don't have that now. Both the republican and democratic parties are full of corrupt, self serving douche bags. Libertarians are the only people saying anything that makes sense. I can listen to a Ron Paul speech and agree with every word of it. When Barack Obama or John McCain are on the TV I want to smash something.
Federal Reserve pumped the market up to crash it. THat's what happens with Keynesian economics, it has booms and bust cycles and the Federal Reserves gets to determine when they want the market to crash.
The crash will occur in 2017, or else 2018. If not 2018, then 2019 or 2020. It may occur in 2021 or 2022. If it does not occur by 2023 or 2024, then it will just have to wait until 2025 or 2026. If it occurs between 2017 and 2026, then I get all the credit for predicting it without guessing.
It is good that Ms. Goodman is questioning the JFK assassination. She must be among the 10 percent of Americans who have not. Now if she would look at the 9-11 attacks in the same open-minded light I might be willing to believe that she is more intelligent and less a corporate media disinformant than she seems.
BRAD Blinkered. Thats a fine definition of arrogance you``ve just outlined . Somebody "hates America " because they disagree with you, then on the unshakeable principle that America (you) cannot be wrong, the critic must be wrong or bad. Yes it explains US behaviour a lot. Nice circular logic too. Well done.
"In the 20's it was the DuPonts, Morgans and Rockefellers" Who does this guy think supported the "Progressive" movement he supports? The DuPonts, Morgans and Rockefellers all supported the "Progressive" movement. So much for the "Big Picture"
Americans, we should send homeless people to all major international airports to let the world know about our real economy contrasting scams Wall St marketing now.
Perhaps this very thing--the crash of 2016--is just what is needed to forestall a much worse outcome, namely runaway methane-mediated global warming. Maybe we better not stop it.
Amy Goodman and Thom Hartman together now that's one hell of a combination
TAX. THE. CORPORATIONS.
What happens when you allow rampant monopolisation and tax avoidance? This.
Yep. Still this.
The political will you describe can be found in the Bernie Sanders campaign. Let's hope it lasts.
+Ted Apelt you are being inept...
+Ted Apelt Too big to fail, one hopes!
Oh, it's lasting all right!
Probably the only un biased channel in the US. Keep it up!!
The people of America have the absolute authority and obligation to govern what happens in our nation with very few exception. Truly the AYN RAND leave it to the marketplace ideas have failed miserably. Alan Greenspan actually apologized to Congress and the American people for following her idea. The PEOPLE get exactly the government that they deserve. SO rather than complain get involved and force the changes that you know are necessary for survival of America.
The Sherman Act also forbade Banks engaging in the equities business. If it had been honored the last crash would not have happened.
Thank you Thom Hartmann once again for making the facts clear and sharing solutions!
We'll get to see if Thom's timeline and prediction come true. Judging from the port shape of most national and international economies he could be spot on.
Don't underestimate the importance of NAFTA and similar agreements in contributing to this
Can we pre-order "The Crash of 2017" yet from Mr Hartmann?
How about the belly up situation we are in now...2022??? United Corporations of America equals 'populationist rage'
" In a country of people who are properly governed , poverty is something to be ashamed of . In a country of people who are improperly governed , being rich is something to be ashamed of ". - Confucius .
Thom is an amazingly knowledgeable man, he clearly studied the US system thoroughly and he genuinely wants to find solutions to make it work but I think he dismisses the devastating impacts that the profit motivations have on our hypothetical survival and the environmental factors that may make that survival possible or not. Profits don't give a damn about the Amazonian forest, or the levels of air and water pollution, in fact profits don't even carte about us, our well being and our chances of survival, they couldn't be happier when we murder each other by the millions or create bugs that could wipe us out completely and now those profits are used to protect more profits and to buy those who actually could do something about it and they convinced the citizens that anything else is communism and we're all gonna die... Capitalism has gone insane, it has been allowed to regulate itself but the words enough, human, sustainability, survival, hope, regulations and long term planning had all previously been removed from the language and consequential factors by a team of pros paid with the profits to protect the profits, communism failed in a few weeks, we could watch it agonize and die on TV but it didn't kill millions, capitalism is dying too but it is so pernicious and genocidal it will kill millions or all of us but so slowly, we won't realize it until it's too late, just like the frog in cold water.
Well my friends, we have failed, the human experiment was doomed from the beginning by the stupidity, gullibility and greed genes, I hope next time we can do better, if we went so far as to knowingly cause the destruction of the only environment capable of sustaining life, we weren't worthy of it so goodbye my friends, maybe in some other cycle.
this video was uploaded 3 yrs back...unbelieveable...this is happening. now
we must stop this tragedy from happening it's so horrible what these people are doing so despicable they are. it is absolutely disgraceful that we are not doing so much more to stop this bullshit corruption.
"Predator class" is an apt term.
Well said Mr. Hartman. We have been warned!!
last hours of ancient sunlight is excellent book by thom, as is Prophets Way.
I don't understand why Thom Hartmann talks about the rich trying to establish an oligarchy when that seems to have already happened. The question is how to tear that down and establish democracy.
There has been a recession for some of us since the early 90's! I,m 50 this year and I have been working poor all of my life!
thank you, I want this book.
being a blackman i never bought into the system, couldnt find a living wage job, i was homeless and saw a book on home repair, so i went to the library read books on home building and building codes, a drunk driver totaled my car[my home]and i used the money to build a 1 bedroom home...moral of the story dont give the federal reserve[rothchild bank] interest debt..buy a used car no debt...live within your means.all you need is 5 million people standing together in the streets and you can force the government to bring back industry to america...CAPITALISM doesnt work because of GREED!!!!!!!!!!
Amazing how truth ages so well...
Just learned Hartmann is in his 60s... he does look younger!
Thom: Wonderful ideas. I especially enjoy your use of the term 'Commons'. A much needed concept! We seem to be reaching the top of a debt cycle. What do you think is the right direction for the monetary system to go? Public banking. Jubilee? Print our own money? Gold based? End fractional reserve banking?
KOCH BROTHERS WILL GIVE AMERICA THE BEST GOVERNMENT MONEY CAN BUY
Unless a better candidate comes along, I hope Bernie Sanders becomes president.
Conspiracy theories so often come true when more information is ferreted out on the issue. I like the idea of "if there is any doubt, there is no doubt". Hartmann certainly seems to know his stuff. I think we will have to go through the upheaval of another financial/social collapse before the pitch forks get dusted off again. Too bad. I read from the words of a philosopher who once said, "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. " or words such as these. Glass-Steagle, Sherman anti trust, etc. are the things that keep the Koch's up at night and let the rest of us sleep peacefully.
REPEAT THIS SHOW!
The Panic of 1905 preceeded WW1 as well. The 1905 Panic was artificially created by JP Morgan--the person.
Thom is brilliant!
Interesting
How long are the people going to tolerate this. I mean come on dude, seriously. Trickle Down Economic! Really!! You believe that.How stupid are you.I guess greed doesn't exist. And the desire for power is an innate thing.
it would make more sense to have someone who actually knows how to invest to lead decision making when it comes to money. If not you have what we have now: Trillions of dollars in debt with budget cuts still adding to our debt and unrestricting foreign aid to countries that don't even like us while our own infrastructure needs to be improved. We need to invest in our own country before we give billions in foreign aid to others.
So a 1-2% budget cut is painful but a financial crash caused by the inability to service our debt is fine? I don't understand that "logic". The idea that a society can live beyond its means forever makes no sense economically or mathematically. And why not start with small cuts rather than take a meat axe when the SHTF.
We have fiat currency - the government can *always* service its debt. Where do you think the $29 trillion bailout for the financial sector came from?
The US Government is not a household - money is created by computer keystrokes. yes, there are potential inflationary constraints, but there is not a financial constraint.
Where do you think the $29 trillion used to back the financial system during the crisis came from?
I didn't think it possible! you know less about persuasion than you do about how the monetary system operates! But, hey, I guess opposable thumbs are not a prerequisite for using a keyboard.
It is so tiresome to hear again and again the credit given to Dwight Eisenhower for his empty rhetoric in the last days of his office about the "military, industrial complex." The man had eight years in office in which he served as a flunky for the Dulles brothers' CIA and the Pentagon. He did nothing to stem the tide of US militarism. Then, at the end of his presidency, to bolster his shabby legacy, he gave a warning that George Washington gave almost two hundred years earlier, in his farewell address!
It is so over for us.
THE QUESTION: Are the Koch brothers rich enough yet?
not until they can buy the moon
Gene C not until we (the bottom 99 percent) are in serfdom
How can this clip of your own show Democracy Now be blocked for copywrite infringement when you, Democracy Now, are the one who uploaded it? Kinda fishy.
It is now march of 2016, so far this guy is WRONG
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Is this the beginning of the end?
I sure hope so! : )
And then people elected someone to drain the swamp who is king of the swamp. Lol
UPDATE SEPT. 2014: various news sources report that 110 MILLION Americans now receive government assistance. This total EXCEEDS those in full-time private sector jobs. We now have approx. 1/3 of the population engaged in PRODUCTIVE labor (sorry, public sector is NOT considered "productive"), who are supporting 1/3 on welfare. Oh, the last 1/3 includes government employees, military, retirees, & kids. So, the ACTUAL TOTAL receiving ALL FORMS of government payments is EVEN HIGHER ! For this reason alone, the Federal debt will CONTINUE TO CLIMB beyond $18 TRILLION !
The EPA has done nothing but drive our businesess away with overzealousness!!!
Not to belittle her intelligence and her work but I have always found Amy goodman to be such a pretty lady in a distinguished Intellectual way. Awesome stuff love thom :p
I just wonder how much one can take the word of people who still appear to take terms like "republican" and "democrat" seriously.
I don't miss amy or dn, gave them up years ago when they were clearly defending the official stories of 9/11 and refusing to do their jobs. They are useless.
But I consider this the mainstreaming of the coming crash
Why is this blocked?
It isn't blocked.
Every time load it on my phone it said it was blocked in my country. Very odd... It was posted from my phone and still won't play on it with the same error that it has been blocked? I don't get it.
Brian Haner
Oh well then it is your country blocking it.It's blocked in America. I don't know
I agree the there will be a depression soon. My life saving are in an IRA. What stocks and bonds do you recommend to weather the coming economic storm?
***** I was asking for THOM'S advise. There are strategies for investing in a prerecession environment; these are well known. I was wanting Thom's particular slant.
1disaffected Please let me know what the strategies are because by keeping all in cash with inflation, even if it is claimed not to exist, will make you slowly poorer.
1disaffected First get your money OUT of the BANK!
Mary Wilder then out of the dollar.
1disaffected Get Peter Schiff's book, "Crash Proof". Soon! Once the Bernake bond bubble bursts and the USD is no longer the world's reserve currency, it'll be too late to dump dollars. You can consider transferring all or part of your IRA to Perth gold certificates which are backed by gold. Gold and silver just made a major correction and are much cheaper than a couple years ago. Commodity prices and utilities will go way up. ETF's and stock in companies that benefit from these higher commodity prices should do well. The oil sector is cheap now because of the correction in oil prices. Swiss Francs is an option. Many of the world's currencies may deflate, but none as bad as ours. Good luck> Also, when the stock mkt crashes, the bond mkt may rally and seem like the best and safest option, because it always has been in the past. Don't do it! When the bond bubble bursts, it will fall too fast to exit, unless you're a day trader. These are some ideas you may want to explore.
"Says not available in your country" Strange ! Normally all Demcocracy now videos are available in UK?
It's working in the UK now
That's odd...
Or at least it was, it's working for me through a laptop, not working/available in our area, on my mobile. go figure? go fuck yourself google-tube
Yes same here available on PC but not mobile phone ?! Strange ?
Get Hola Unblocker. As a Canadian, this is insanely helpful.
We do NOT need to tax ANYONE more. The reason the 1% got so disparately rich is because of the existence of a government and central banking. The 1% have a lot of excess money to invest YES/TRUE. Central banks artificially fix interest rates very low and print a whole lot of money to keep the housing bubble and stock bubbles going, it also allows governments to deficit spend to infinity and promise the world with retirement schemes paid for with the colateral of generations unborn. Governments can fund big wars without needing to even ask for taxes they just erode the purchasing power away from everyone by stealth of quantitative easing. Governments pass so many regulations such as requirements for packaging, FDA regulations etc that only the large multinational corporations have the capital to roll with the punches and stay functioning, it shuts out small businesses from entry. Governments create the monopolies and IS ITSELF A MONOPOLY on the use of force, schools, healthcare, the court system it forces people through an imaginary "social contract" to pay taxes to all of these services that we all have no choice over better alternatives. Without a government there would be a true competitive market that would rely on retaining good workers therefore wages would be in line with productivity. Blame big governement DO NOT advocate for more of the same CANCER / BIG GOVERNMENT! PLEASE! - 2 cents from a libertarian
delusional
how about learning about history before sharing your poorly thought out opinions?
It's clear Thom has never had a proper job in his life, because he would never come out with some of those egregious things.
The US Dollar is no longer the default currency for oil transactions globally, why?
Is it because the U$ Dollar is worthle$$?
That's a really fundamental change and it's from the theft of real value to such an extreme there is no recovery for the worst Depression ever, my mom lived through the first one and rural areas did ok because everybody grew their own food.
The cities had the soup lines, to her today's Depression is worse because it affects everyone.
Consider that what's going on in the USA under criminal control is called "Austerity" in Europe, eh?
Blame big government and socialism, NOT capitalism
That's exactly what they want you to believe, idiot! Look at the facts
Byron Jones
Look the "facts"? what facts are you looking at you stupid fool? I am not an American, but do you even know why the founding fathers fought for this country? they rebelled against Great Britain because they were slaves to the empire ie big government, and they were slaves because of all the heavy taxation, which meant they kept very little of what they earned. Why did you think all the early immigrants left their respective countries in Europe and Asia to risk it all on America? it was because they had freedom, they were free to keep what they earned and capitialism allowed the country to thrive and made America the wealthiest nation on earth, with very limited government. I bet you don't even know how to define capitalism, pick up any book by an Austrian economist like Henry Hazlitt or Murray Rothbard instead of being programmed by the mainstream media you sheep.
TheTraveler
I guess as long as you were White anglo you got rich eh?
Yet look at the state of capitalism in the US today. They're in a worse state than us. But you don't want to know that...as long as a tiny few can make themselves very rich at the expense of the hard work of others...and avoid billions in taxes. The mainstream media are owned by no more than 6 capitalist magnates. Or did you not know that.
You embarrass yourself by your comments....grow a pair, will you
History does repeat itself.
The horror of not having GMO food?
If people stick together, none of this will happen. People must go back to the fundamentals, the way this country formed, (of, by and for the people). Sadly, the word 'People' has been replaced by the word 'Business.' There must be a rudimental common denominator that all Americans can feel and understand. Imagine if people refused to shop, work, or do anything for a week, what would happen? They must suffer for a little while to get what they want, nothing comes easy, certainly not change. No rich person will ever feel the poor person's pain.
I like Amy. Think she does a good job. But she stepped on Thom’s toes quite a bit in this interview, asking her next question as he was finishing his statement. Sone of the ends of his statements had very important words which needed to be heard.
The waste isn't in big corporations that need to be broken up. Unless our gov't deems them too big to fail and bails them out. That's not free mkt capitalism. It's corporatism. But the bulk of the waste that will cause the collapse is in a big centralized government that needs to be broken up. It is far less efficient than the worst of the corporatists. Gov't bails itself out every month by printing more money. Increasing the money supply 400% in the last 6 years, the federal reserve has sunk us on purpose. It's the Bernake bond bubble. And the central banks have done the same to much of the rest of the world. It is part of their plan to enslave us and set up a new world order that Bill Clinton and George Bush have openly supported. The solution, although probably too late, would be a return to free markets. A return to the constitution. And a severe recession or depression that allows the mkt to correct. A return to gold backed money as well, which means we would have to burn trillions, which we can't because we owe too much to be able to remove money from circulation. Want to survive? Dump dollars and buy gold and silver and pray that the gov't doesn't confiscate it as in 1929. Swiss francs is another option. The USD is a bubble. It will collapse as soon as it is replaced as the world's reserve currency, which is already happening.
Heard this free market apologia too many times to count - it's not the system, it's corruption. Ever allow yourself to consider the seeds for corruption, oligopoly and corporatism are an inherency of free market capitalism?
The seeds of corruption are indeed inherent in human nature. Add to that nature power, and you find that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Right now the federal government has consolidated and expanded its power to a point where there is no accountability. No longer checks and balances. Prosecutorial misconduct from the leaders in the Justice Dept. is a particularly scary development as laws are only enforced against political dissidents. The corporatism we both oppose begins and ends with government and politician. If they were not willing participants, it could not occur.
Our government can not solve the problem until it first acknowledges that it is the problem. Until then, we're all in denial if we expect things to get better.
Like you said, 'It's not the system.'
the only way we can stop this cycle is to dismantle and decentralise government. building our own lives and communities away from those who can't wake up.
Thom Hartman's statement that Hoover did nothing to avert the great depression is factualy incorrect and totally misleading - In four years of Hoover's government till FDR took over the administration increased the government spending level by 48% as well as funding financial institutions and broadening the hand of federal government. It also substantially raised import duties on thousands of imported goods.
He does fix that but when does say it was on the last 2 years of his terms but it was already full out depression no thanks to Calvin Coolidge who practiced Reaganomics before it existed.
Juan Lopez The statement tat the depression was caused by reaganomics is a wild one. Just how did this happen? The big issues in the economy were the actions of government mainly the policy of restricting credit, interfering in the natural prices particulaly gold prices when gold was a world wide currency. The government outlawed the holding of gold by US citizens and compulsorary acquisition of gold at a government determined US dollar price and then a relaxation of the restrictions at a price higher than what it was conficated at. That is a tax in itself. That massive interference caused massively increased unemployment which had actually been dropping from it's high point but then reversed to continue higher.. ! One only has to question why a government which has it's own currency would want to outlaw it citizens from holding or trading in gold. It points to a failure of its own monetary policy if it has to outlaw a competing money. Totalitarianism action by a so called democratic government. No wonder the depression went on for almost another decade in the US. And now you want to blame reaganomics which essentially resulted in lower taxes and increased revenue for the government from expanded growth.
Rob Mews Talk about distorting the record of the great satan Reagan.
So half the voting public has been hoodwinked to believe in REAGAN SOCIALISM that has been giving the 1% all our money.
And they want the 1% to have even more.
They believe in ReaganVooDooTrickleDownGoldenShowerPizzOnYou economics 101.
And they do not want someone in the Senate who will fight for the interests of the 99%.
Reagan increased the size of govt 191%,, He increased spending to match .. All it takes to dispell the GOP myth of Republicans spending less is to do a little reading , a little history.
1945-1980 the bottom 90% of US grew our incomes by 75% (adjusted). Next 28 years of Reaganomics? 1%
The history of Ronald Reagan should be written that he was nothing more than a tool to harm the nation. He tripled our debt, he sold weapons to enemies and he started the war against the nation by bringing in trickle down. The man is a disgrace.
Since Reagan the Americans have suffered.
Republicans and those who vote Republicans are nothing more than tories, red coats, the buffoons and suckers who kissess rich man's ass and exist for no other reason than to kiss rich man's ass. It's obscene and it's worse than pornography.
Dispel the Reagan myth. Multiple tax increases, a balloted budget, giant increase to government and deficits. Reagan beyond being a failure as a President was someone that should have been arrested for crimes against humanity for what he did in central america.
Reagan was the first president to politicize the CIA. He told the CIA to lie to Congress by telling Congress that the Soviet Union was a very wealthy country, so he can con money out of Congress.
The Soviet Union was on it's way to a collapse long before Reagan took office. Kurschev already told Nixon the model in the Soviet Union was not working.
Mikhail Gorbachev spoke in a US community, one of only two communities he gave a speech at in the United States. At the speech, Gorbachev blew the Reagan myth out of the waters. Gorbachev blamed himself for not acting quick enough to transform the former Soviet Union into a new model.
The Cold War was long gone and over before Reagan came onto the scene. The Soviet Union knew it was a matter of time. It was Reagan who lied, nothing new there, lied about the economic conditions in the former Soviet Union.
Did I miss anything?
Rob Mews
Reagan a steaming pile
Ronald Reagan represents all of the worst elements of the American political experience of the last 50 years. All of them. He was, and always will be, nothing but a steaming hot pile of filthy hyena puke.
Intellectually, Reagan gave chimpy a run for his money. He was vacuous. He was shallow. He was incurious. He was a puppet and a door stop for a group of sick ideologues who really ran the country. He was a bad actor and foolish tool.
Ideologically, he was a hater and an imperialist and far-right loony-tune. He hated the poor. He hated gays. He hated leftists. He hated communists - and he was pretty sure you were one if you disagreed with him. He hated and he hated and he hated. Just ask his own kids. He hated them and himself and his ex-wife. Ronald Reagan was a twisted unrepentant closed-minded waste-bag hate monger. And that's just for starters.
The foreign policy of Ronald Reagan did more to impoverish and kill the poor and helpless humans of the world than any world leader before or since - with the possible exception of our Bush. Reagan just didn't give a hoot. He was going to defeat communism (which was already falling of its own weight) and he didn't care how many children were burned alive or how many people starved to death on the way. Let em die. Reagan was a friggen dirtbag.
On Reagan's watch the military budget of the U.S. grew to the proportions of a heaping pile of 10,000 week-old dead and bloated Blue Whales. And it stunk just as bad. The practice of rewarding incompetent cronies with gigantic useless contracts for unneeded military hardware was elevated to art form under Reagan. Reagan's legendary megalomania, hubris and abject ignorance led him to believe the tales of any crackpot who managed to slither past the goons who comprised his inner circle. Star-wars missiles, atomic shields, space-age death rays. You name it - that loon would fall for it - and blow billions of your tax dollars on it.
And on the domestic front - holy crap the domestic front. Ronald Reagan was a force for the rampaging evil of anti-human destructiveness. He never met a social program he didn't scorn. He never met an American in need he didn't have a bowel movement directly upon. His response to the AIDS epidemic is one of the most sickening cold-blooded expressions of pure murderous political evil in the history of the earth. Genghis Khan could only dream of such depravity and indifference to human suffering. There is so much more, but, hell, if you don't already know about this crap, then go read a book or two.
Then there was Iran-Contra - the infamous orgy of unfettered criminality at the heart of the Reagan legacy. Again, look it up. Rogues, liars, crooks, murderers and ignorant heartless scum surrounded Reagan at all times. Ali Babba would've been shamed. But Ronald Reagan was shameless.
Oh, did I mention The War on Drugs and it's ballooning of the prison/criminal industrial complex and the rise of brainless goon-like authoritarianism? Or the destruction of the modern labor movement including the cowardly firing of the Air Traffic Controllers? Or the beginnings of the current trend of packing the Judiciary with corrupt freakish pseudo-fascist stoolies? Or the repugnant rapes of Lebanon and Grenada? Or the dim-witted goofball junk science that came to known as "Reaganomics?" Or grant rigging at the Department of Housing and Urban Development? Or James Watt and the whole-hearted attempt to destroy the earth and all its inhabitants at the expense of greed mongers and corporate whores? Or the largest white collar theft in the history of planet Earth - the Savings and Loan Bailout? And on and on and on and on.
So let me conclude,
Ronald Reagan will forever be remembered as one of the most idiotic, vile, worthless leaders of any any nation in any era. He presently occupies a special place in Hell beside Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot. And I promise you, they all think he's an idiot too. Screw Ronald Reagan. And then screw him again.
silat13 it's so refreshing to read others who didn't fall for the Reagan mystique...patriot my ass!
The privatization of government services is to gain government corruption for private enterprise. The efficiency of private enterprise is corruption. We need the government, though corrupt, as competition to the efficiency of private enterprise.
Hartman blaming Republicans, surprise, surprise.
During FDR's 1932 campaign he criticized Hoover for doing * too much* during the Great Depression. Dang, Hoover can't get a break!
Hartman is wrong about unemployment in the depression. Hoover's action in spending did not reduce unemployment by his direct recruitment policy anounced in 1933. The unemployment statistics show that the rate in 1928 was 4.2 % then 8.9 in 1930 and 23.6% in 1932 then 21.7 % in 1934 then 16.9% in 1936 and up agin in 1938 to 19%. After that war in Europe greatly affected the unemployment rate with manpower being required for contracted and then armies. That does not show that Hoover's policies would work again or did work then. In fact it points to a gross failure if you compare it to the policies of the early 1920's.
OBAMA IS THE HALF TIME SHOW IN THE GOP SECOND DEPRESSION !!!
Wicked.
I think there are two parts of the table being feed and eating everything - this includes the very base of the system and the very stop of this system - agree the middle is getting squeezed.
Well public property would be treated like private property so they couldn't just put smoke stacks everywhere.
Today there are a documented 155 million Americans "in the workforce." There are a documented 102 million working-age, able-bodied Americans "out-of-the-workforce." Another 58 million Americans are too old, too young or unwilling to work. Divide 102 by 257 (155 + 102) and you get a 40% unemployment rate.
Very Pink
Which party controlled both houses of the Govt. in 2007...
The "arctic methane bomb" theory is now widely disputed and discredited even by members of the IPCC. But I love how they sneak in AGW nonsense in with some real truth about politics and the economic situation strangling us all.
Thom Hartman=Limousine Liberal.
No way ! He makes a tiny amount compared to the far-right wacko haters. Rush Limbaugh = Limousine Liar.
History's Algebra: The Pendulum.
The tragedy (1936) and the farce (2016).
[Mussolini+Hitler+Franco] + [80 years] = [Netanyahu+Trump+(Putin/Assad)]
respectively. Aleppo as Guernica before 80 years.
("Anatomy of a Tragedy" 1985.)
Thom, most libertarians are not Republicans, so it is irresponsible to lump the two together. The federal government is bad at everything. I can't think of one thing they are good at, other than taxing the shit out of the middle class and job creators. They are also great at letting the Federal Reserve and the banking system destroy our currency.
You don't need the government to regulate. Those regulations are written by the same people they are supposed to protect us from, so what good does that do? You have to let the market regulate it. Don't bring back Glass Steagal, just don't bail the banks out when they crash this next time. Maybe if some depositors lose their deposits, they might pay attention to what the banks are doing with their money, or not put their money in banks at all. The one place I worry about not having any regulations is the environment. Technically, if you enforce strict property right laws, then you wouldn't be able to pollute someone else's property, but I don't know how that would work with the arctic drilling that you talked about. I suppose we would just have to hope that the people doing the drilling would listen to reason if the science is clearly pointing the direction you are going.
I know that a good government would be great, but we don't have that now. Both the republican and democratic parties are full of corrupt, self serving douche bags. Libertarians are the only people saying anything that makes sense. I can listen to a Ron Paul speech and agree with every word of it. When Barack Obama or John McCain are on the TV I want to smash something.
AMERICA HAS SOCIALISM FOR THE RICH ! FREE ENTERPRISE FOR THE POOR !!!
money will not save them.
Government per se is not bad. Our government is bad and getting worse by the day.
Eisenhower was the last Republican!
So it’s 2018...
Federal Reserve pumped the market up to crash it. THat's what happens with Keynesian economics, it has booms and bust cycles and the Federal Reserves gets to determine when they want the market to crash.
Dooms day I don't believe it. My net worth increases annually.
The crash will occur in 2017, or else 2018. If not 2018, then 2019 or 2020. It may occur in 2021 or 2022. If it does not occur by 2023 or 2024, then it will just have to wait until 2025 or 2026. If it occurs between 2017 and 2026, then I get all the credit for predicting it without guessing.
What happened was steady growth, lower unemployment, higher GDP , then We learned who Fauci was......
. . . and this was recorded before the USA intervention in Ukraine!
Not only did we not stop it, but it's been accelerated under Trump.
Bumpy ride ahead.
It is good that Ms. Goodman is questioning the JFK assassination. She must be among the 10 percent of Americans who have not. Now if she would look at the 9-11 attacks in the same open-minded light I might be willing to believe that she is more intelligent and less a corporate media disinformant than she seems.
BRAD
Blinkered.
Thats a fine definition of arrogance you``ve just outlined . Somebody "hates America " because they disagree with you, then on the unshakeable principle that America (you) cannot be wrong, the critic must be wrong or bad. Yes it explains US behaviour a lot. Nice circular logic too. Well done.
"In the 20's it was the DuPonts, Morgans and Rockefellers"
Who does this guy think supported the "Progressive" movement he supports? The DuPonts, Morgans and Rockefellers all supported the "Progressive" movement. So much for the "Big Picture"
The Predator class !
the harvest is great,the workers are few
Understand the attack on Surfs in Russia. They would like to send us back to serfdom.
Thom you have so many great points and you're analysis is well researched. You fall flat by turning around with overwhelming support of Hillary.
WAIT..WHAT?
ROOOAAAR! I am the Kochtopus!!!!
Americans, we should send homeless people to all major international airports to let the world know about our real economy contrasting scams Wall St marketing now.
Thomm's blatantly copying Peter Schiff ideas. Cmon Thomm
Perhaps this very thing--the crash of 2016--is just what is needed to forestall a much worse outcome, namely runaway methane-mediated global warming. Maybe we better not stop it.
George is living in 2076AD - a world we are creating today. See the future of America and share what you would do. Watch: 2076AD.
No mention of the Bilderberg Group or the Federal Reserve.......Hmmmm
Sailboat gun seeds water family love life... Let it burn and the truth will stand.