***** I did think he was female, but I thought he seemed a little masculine, and when I was reading over some of his info, I did notice he was male. ( I reviewed the characters on the Wiki before I played the game )
Isn't this support, like, really creepy in japanese? I hear it's similar to her support with Ophelia in that she basically stalks him, and refuses to believe that he's really a boy, and actually demands he "prove it".
SuperZez That is the reason why I like this change. The original just makes Soleil sound like a jerk. I mean it would be kind of funny, but.... This one leading to them falling in love makes more sense.
"Prove it" ? Look its already weird enough that Forrest is more feminine than soleil. If she wants him to prove it does that mean she wants him to show her his eggplant ?
+Buetifull Persun Wht are you talking about man? She finds women cute and friend zones every guy she has an S Support with except Forrest who looks like a cute girl XD Also I can't believe it you're the guy from Etika's channel who used to comment "Eat Fried chicken and watermelon" XD
+Nintendo FTW23 I'm not the guy from Erika's channel I've never commented on him also my soleils stats were fucked I'm my play through so she never built any supports :(
+Nintendo FTW23 She's straight in the CANON original Japanese version, mate. Treehouse ruined all of FE: Fates, FE: Fates's basically a spin-off game with no correlation to the originals because so many characters where changed, mate. Also, she finds women cute like kittens and puppies but of course if that was in the 'Murican version then all the poor 'Homuricans would commit suicide by choking on dicks, so they just turned Soleil into a Tumblrette, Feminazi, SJWhore. I'm so pissed of right now that I can anally rape a bear! So, please accept my 100% scientific fact and never remind me of how Soleil, my fucking slutty waifu's such an piece of censorshit.
You should read the Japanese version. The localizers had to basically rewrite the whole chain because Japanese Soleil is a bit of a… creep, to say the least.
Nikki CTU I have a question: is trap an offensive term? I'm bi, but I am not a huge part of the LGBTQIAA+ community and I hear trap used a lot, but I've never heard an actual transgender person or crossdresser use it before. Just curious :)
Lyssa Tomlin it's more of an anime term, not something you'd use to discuss real people, and it's not ment to be offensive, but I'm sure there are people who aren't fans of the wording.
Tenebrio morio Thank you love :) I watch a fair amount of anime so I don't know how I missed that word being used in that context lol. I appreciate you taking the time to clarify!
Sure, let's change the support from Soleil refusing to believe Forrest is a boy (and going as far as suggesting they take a bath together, so she'll know the truth) to a support about hair...and all the while keeping the support between Ophelia and Soleil intact. Logic, what is that?
+CGrascal To be honest, the Japanese support had Soleil borderline raping Forrest up until the A-support. But I agree, they should've at least kept the Virion x Libra vibe for giggles.
CGrascal I actually like this one, because it is a genuinely tender moment between them, instead of soleil acting like a creepy stalker. I don't mind stalkers, heck I like Tharja and Rhajat, I just think this one makes more sense because it gives Forrest a more sensible reason for liking her. Although I understand why people were upset. I would've also liked to see the original as well. I think it would be genuinely hilarious to see Soleil say "You're a man? show me your dick to prove it then!" However I also think that would make Soleil look like a jerk. Which in turn would make me wonder why that would end up leading to them falling in love. All in all I like the change because this conversation seems a lot more plausible love wise.
My hair is naturally very curly (and it's gotten way curlier since I've begun straightening it. I don't know how), and when I was younger I actually used to have people ask me if they could touch/brush my hair
If this doesn't confirm Soleil to be Bisexual, then I don't know what will. I hear stupid "Corrections" that she's attracted to girls, but not in *that* way. That it's based on a niche following in Japan. I call bullshit on all of it! If Nintendo wanted her to have it more of an Hobby-esque interest, than they would've explained it in some fashion. Constantly leading people on that she's gay in some way, yet say that she's not actually gay is stupid, contradictory and confusing as hell. There is no arguing this fact. Unless there is evidence to support otherwise, than she is bisexual. End of discussion.
Guess I'd best clarify, in the NA/EU translation, Soleil was changed to be 100% bisexual, aside from supports (they wouldn't go that far). In the Japanese (original) version of the game, she did have that strange "into cute-girls but not lesbian" trend which was a major character trope.
XTheBlackSoulX No, I did. It's just that there was too many things contradicting one another that it was muddying the character's entire premise. As for the Japanese trope. It might be true in the Japanese version, but I've seen people try to go against what was implied in the NA/EU version. That's why it was confusing. It was the misinformation that I was getting so riled about. Thanks for clearing it up for me. :)
This is actually something that makes me legit annoyed with the translators. I'm perfectly okay with a character being bisexual but for god's sake, don't change a character's ENTIRE personality to adjust to your whims. The S-Support conversations with Soleil primarily turned from heartfelt confessions to moronic friendzoning and them blushing while going "I just want to like, hang out with you and stuff!" I don't understand how they came up with the conclusion that anybody would be happy with it.
+AFK Cyndiquil So Forrest acknowledges the fact that he's a male he just likes wearing dresses and accessories? That's okay I suppose just think I got picked on High School for being shy and having a Geek demeanor imagine what they would do to Forrest if he was real....poor guy :/......I still think he's interesting :)
Midget Dragon Indeed! Lovely aren't they? Although..... I think it needs to be mentioned that neither of them are either of those.... Forrest is a straight cis man who crossdresses as a hobby. Soleil is.... well it is uncertain whether she is les or bi, or even straight and just loves cute girls as a hobby, but it is known for certain that the only reason why she is able to fall in love with Forrest is specifically because of his feminine appearance. If anything this conversation has a very progressive message to it, namely "true love knows no gender or barriers" If the entire LBGT movement is about allowing anyone to love anyone else, wouldn't this be something they should agree with?
AH, well. Guess I wouldn't know if there's voices or not in the supports since I turned them off, hehe. My point still stands though, I Don't really like the English VA in Fates cuz their lines get annoying and I think many of the voices don't fit the characters. Plus, I like making up the voices in my head on my own.
Soleil: Oh my gosh she's so cute!
Forrest: You do know I'm a guy right?
Soleil: ... Even better.
Warboss West This conversation in a nutshell.
Soleil's skill is literally being homosexual, she's 1,000% a lesbian.
FabulousPinapple She literally refuses to like guys. Check her and Nina’s conversation
Best of both worlds
@@LanadelReysins *_ToO BAd tHE HOmOSExUAl S SUppOrT WAs NIlES AnD RhaTjat._*
Inigo's intense lust for women trasnfered over to his daughter. Amazing
*Other Supports*
lazlow's daughter****
+Bryan D Figueroa Ayala Same shit.
Meanwhile Niles' intense love for men was inherited by his daughter.
@@nintendosega100 Oh sh-
That explains a lot
"I wear this same headband every day."
You mean the headband that your grandma would wear? :3
sick burn
+Sonic Ice Wolf It's the headband that Olivia wore in FE: Awakening
+PrincessAnime 64 oh I've never played awakening. i thought you were making a good insult
but where and how did she get it, lol?
Azuro Ice Wolf I thought that made the insult better
'There are other things we could do besides hair.' Oh my...
Romeo Ngaei-Tou "Like our clothes next! Pretty dresses for us both!"
@@actualmadscientist Wholesome
"Like you"
@@nerothewateruser8030 Twosome
Do you have a video of that? Asking for a friend...
If Soleil likes girls and Forrest is a guy that looks like a girl, then it's a win/win for them both
Minus the dick
+Cancerous Weeaboo Maybe Soleil would be into that
David Mejia Jr. Probably lol
***** That makes zero sense, but alright.
***** I did think he was female, but I thought he seemed a little masculine, and when I was reading over some of his info, I did notice he was male.
( I reviewed the characters on the Wiki before I played the game )
Who else thinks this is the perfect match?
I ship it honestly
+VideoGameFan24 FTW It's definitely better than the original, where it just consists of Soleil chasing Forrest around the entire time.
Imagine them having kids together.
SayaKuro12 Lol...
+VideoGameFan24 FTW it would be quite a learning experience.
Isn't this support, like, really creepy in japanese? I hear it's similar to her support with Ophelia in that she basically stalks him, and refuses to believe that he's really a boy, and actually demands he "prove it".
Yes, it is.
pastebin.com/mPyG72CG
This is the script.
" Prove it "
Alright, it's dick time
....I can see why changes were made. This is intense sexual harassment jfc
SuperZez That is the reason why I like this change.
The original just makes Soleil sound like a jerk.
I mean it would be kind of funny, but....
This one leading to them falling in love makes more sense.
"Prove it" ? Look its already weird enough that Forrest is more feminine than soleil. If she wants him to prove it does that mean she wants him to show her his eggplant ?
Forrest being lowkey mad at Soleil not believing he does his own hair is really amusing
the closest thing we can get to a lesbian pairing with soleil
+SmartBored Unlike Soleil she isn't a Bisexual lol
+Nintendo FTW23 Soleil's straight, mate.
+Buetifull Persun Wht are you talking about man? She finds women cute and friend zones every guy she has an S Support with except Forrest who looks like a cute girl XD
Also I can't believe it you're the guy from Etika's channel who used to comment "Eat Fried chicken and watermelon" XD
+Nintendo FTW23 I'm not the guy from Erika's channel I've never commented on him also my soleils stats were fucked I'm my play through so she never built any supports :(
+Nintendo FTW23 She's straight in the CANON original Japanese version, mate. Treehouse ruined all of FE: Fates, FE: Fates's basically a spin-off game with no correlation to the originals because so many characters where changed, mate. Also, she finds women cute like kittens and puppies but of course if that was in the 'Murican version then all the poor 'Homuricans would commit suicide by choking on dicks, so they just turned Soleil into a Tumblrette, Feminazi, SJWhore.
I'm so pissed of right now that I can anally rape a bear! So, please accept my 100% scientific fact and never remind me of how Soleil, my fucking slutty waifu's such an piece of censorshit.
There is SO much blushing going on in these supports.
C A N O N
it's a trap for both of them.
Wow, an actual good support chain, C through S. Really funny at the start and ends in a sweet way. GG, localization team.
You should read the Japanese version. The localizers had to basically rewrite the whole chain because Japanese Soleil is a bit of a… creep, to say the least.
Can anyone elaborate on this?
@@HelloSayEm6 In brief, Soleil thinks Forrest is a girl and she eventually tries to force him to bathe with her.
@@quillion3rdoption Dear Lord, that's f***Ed up, glad they changed it. Heaven forbid how she would react if she saw LIbra.
Geez, I'm having flashbacks of Naoto and Kanji, except in reverse....
Tearonex That is also what I thought.
Now I want a persona fire emblem crossover....
@@actualmadscientist Tokyo mirage is the closest thing to get tho
Is it just me or does anyone else appreciate how they didn't give the trap a girly voice. It works and its different.
I appreciate that.
Nikki CTU I have a question: is trap an offensive term? I'm bi, but I am not a huge part of the LGBTQIAA+ community and I hear trap used a lot, but I've never heard an actual transgender person or crossdresser use it before.
Just curious :)
Lyssa Tomlin it's more of an anime term, not something you'd use to discuss real people, and it's not ment to be offensive, but I'm sure there are people who aren't fans of the wording.
Tenebrio morio Thank you love :) I watch a fair amount of anime so I don't know how I missed that word being used in that context lol.
I appreciate you taking the time to clarify!
Lyssa Tomlin no problem.
THATS A MAN!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
*boner you've betrayed me yet again...*
Didn't you see HIS paralogue, like elise says he's elegant
Gotham2298 a few days ago. Leo was the last man I got married
***** you and me both friend. Just don't lift his leg up XD
+gabriel victorino maka and soul
gabriel victorino finding out Ashuramaru from owari no seraph was a boy
The only reasonable pairing for Soleil.
Unless their parents are Leo and Camilla
Hands down this is the support that makes more sense for Soleil
This is my favourite pairing in the whole game.
I don't know about you guys, but this made me laugh so much!
Hold up... They said meet at five... They can tell time?! I always thought it was "get up at dawn" or something like that.
Angelic Rooster two words: Magic pocket watch.
@@actualmadscientist unless my intense mathematical studies have failed me, those were three words
Actually looking at the sun is a common way to tell the time, it may be confusing but once one' learns it its really easy.
@@actualmadscientist That's 3.
The boy that looks like a girl, and the girl that acts like a boy. Wow.
Yknow theres being lesbian
Anyone else like to imagine Forrest being super buff with a deep voice? Makes me chuckle everytime.
That ain't much imagination they made him buff in the springs
I imagine Forrest to have a super deep and gruff voice.
VulxaniSolas his voice actor actually has a distinctly male voice
Me too!
I like would have loved it if he dressed all feminine, but when he opened his mouth, he'd sound like the dude who sang 'Chocolate Rain'
Lady Starflower Forrest and his father, Leo, have the same voice actor, so that would explain why.
VulxaniSolas He actually does, no joke.
Look up some of his voice lines.
How Romantic! Most men get their lovers a ring, Forrest got his a bottle of shampoo!
I just realized... Max Mittelman (Itto in Genshin and Ryuji in Persona 5) also voiced Forrest
Sure, let's change the support from Soleil refusing to believe Forrest is a boy (and going as far as suggesting they take a bath together, so she'll know the truth) to a support about hair...and all the while keeping the support between Ophelia and Soleil intact. Logic, what is that?
+CGrascal To be honest, the Japanese support had Soleil borderline raping Forrest up until the A-support. But I agree, they should've at least kept the Virion x Libra vibe for giggles.
+CGrascal Well he does have a manly voice in english so...
+Americo Silva the Soleil/Forrest one? Here. pastebin.com/mPyG72CG
CGrascal I actually like this one, because it is a genuinely
tender moment between them, instead of soleil acting like
a creepy stalker. I don't mind stalkers, heck I like Tharja
and Rhajat, I just think this one makes more sense because
it gives Forrest a more sensible reason for liking her.
Although I understand why people were upset.
I would've also liked to see the original as well.
I think it would be genuinely hilarious to see
Soleil say "You're a man? show me your dick to prove it then!"
However I also think that would make Soleil look like a jerk.
Which in turn would make me wonder why that would end up
leading to them falling in love. All in all I like the change
because this conversation seems a lot more plausible love wise.
Ahh so you're a disgusting bitch.
They are both my favourite characters ❤️❤️❤️ thx for the video 💪✨
A feminine fellow and a Tomboy, a perfect match!
"Father, may I borrow Brynhildr so Soleil can bangin' hair?"
Interesting convo. This one is far better in english. Contrary to her supports with Corrin.
What is her support with Corrin like in Japanese?
my headcanon nina and soleil stalks forest together for a living.
Wow, first time I've seen Soleil take initiative or even confess to wanting something more from anyone besides the main character.
So cute! They both blush a lot in this support lol
I hope these 2 are back in a future title I love to see what their kids look like
I wish I had a bestfriend like Soliel!
Soleil literally heard the worst thing possible from a hairstylist: “oh dear”
Is it wrong that I think that was adorable? The A support was just really cute
I ship it hard.
This whole thing was a giant middle finger to gender roles.
I love it.
I didn't know Soleil had a thing for traps
"Sorry chad, this is real life. The tomboy gets the femboy."
7:02 Soliel’s hair is the only part like that
Just clicked on the video. Wondered, “oh crap, i think i know where this is going”
HOW DO THEY TELL TIME?!?!?!?! WHERES THE FUCKING ALARM CLOCK?!?!?!? IM SO CONFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSED
Sundials, pocketwatches, tracking the sun's position in the sky? Idk
Grandfather clocks most likely... Or even the little cuckoo clocks.
When soleil realised Forrest is a lucius archetype
As weird as it I've seen you around for years and wonder if you are still active.
hey dood, just letting you know you're a cool guy
***ADORABLE ADORER***
Perfect.
This type of trap would make Admiral Ackbar confused. Because they're both traps
Okay but the B support really is how I feel when random people ask about my hair ps.(I’m black so my hair is very curly and coily)
My hair is naturally very curly (and it's gotten way curlier since I've begun straightening it. I don't know how), and when I was younger I actually used to have people ask me if they could touch/brush my hair
When two traps clash
For someone who looks like a Trap, Forrest is one hell of a gentleman.
*sniff* *sniff*....I smell a romantic comedy.
This is exactly the same setup I have xD
If this doesn't confirm Soleil to be Bisexual, then I don't know what will. I hear stupid "Corrections" that she's attracted to girls, but not in *that* way. That it's based on a niche following in Japan. I call bullshit on all of it! If Nintendo wanted her to have it more of an Hobby-esque interest, than they would've explained it in some fashion. Constantly leading people on that she's gay in some way, yet say that she's not actually gay is stupid, contradictory and confusing as hell. There is no arguing this fact. Unless there is evidence to support otherwise, than she is bisexual. End of discussion.
you didn't do any research, did you
Guess I'd best clarify, in the NA/EU translation, Soleil was changed to be 100% bisexual, aside from supports (they wouldn't go that far). In the Japanese (original) version of the game, she did have that strange "into cute-girls but not lesbian" trend which was a major character trope.
XTheBlackSoulX No, I did. It's just that there was too many things contradicting one another that it was muddying the character's entire premise. As for the Japanese trope. It might be true in the Japanese version, but I've seen people try to go against what was implied in the NA/EU version. That's why it was confusing. It was the misinformation that I was getting so riled about. Thanks for clearing it up for me. :)
+RJTheHero there was never misinformation, only misinterpretations
This is actually something that makes me legit annoyed with the translators. I'm perfectly okay with a character being bisexual but for god's sake, don't change a character's ENTIRE personality to adjust to your whims. The S-Support conversations with Soleil primarily turned from heartfelt confessions to moronic friendzoning and them blushing while going "I just want to like, hang out with you and stuff!"
I don't understand how they came up with the conclusion that anybody would be happy with it.
I like the music.
"It's a TRAP!"
I have diabetes now...
I perfer thier supports in dub the rather than the sub version.
+Irais padron the jpn one can die in a fire.
Le Dom Thank you im not the only one.
what was wrong with the sub jpn version?
It's 10 minutes of ''sexual harassment is totally hilarious if it's girl on guy''
+Le Dom Oh god, poor Forrest. :(
Perfect Match
wait.............THAT'S A DUDE
He's my son
Sonic Ice Wolf Which one you referring to? XD
wait................ THAT'S A GIRL
Sorry Chad, but this is the real world
The tomboy gets the femboy
What the hell?
The worst part is that this is the closest we'll ever get to an S-Support with Soleil as the gay one
When Soleil’s mother was Azura in your playthrough
Is it bad that I can't tell which one is make and which one is female?
Forrest is a guy.
Soleil is a girl.
When you think that its progressive because its a non standard couple...but then you look closer and realize that it is actually pretty standrad...
How ?
Shipping a trap with the reverse trap. Could not get any better.
Wait a lesbian who is into guys that dress like a girl? THAT'S ILLEGAL!
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Jeez. I think forrest was listening to len. He's wearing dresses, he looks feminine in them... sigh.
What a disgrace!
In the end of the day he gets laid. I was quoting what Leo said when he met Forrest in the game.
I made a maid class character (Corrin) just for Leo.
Leo is main man, I got to hook him up with the best. But I don't like Forrest...
Leo of Nohr Then you van go eat shit. By the way, Felicia works better as a maid companion fer Leo.
Heheheh. The comments i'm reading about people realizing Forrest is a dude...priceless!
my beautiful lesbian and trans waifus
+AFK Cyndiquil I think he's an interesting character also he kind of is a Transexual since he feels that he belongs to the opposite gender lol
+AFK Cyndiquil So Forrest acknowledges the fact that he's a male he just likes wearing dresses and accessories? That's okay I suppose just think I got picked on High School for being shy and having a Geek demeanor imagine what they would do to Forrest if he was real....poor guy :/......I still think he's interesting :)
the Forrest & male Corrin support C has Corrin asking which way he swings, in which Forrest says "girls, exclusively."
yee.
All he does is wear women's clothing
Midget Dragon Indeed! Lovely aren't they?
Although..... I think it needs to be mentioned that neither
of them are either of those....
Forrest is a straight cis man who crossdresses as a hobby.
Soleil is.... well it is uncertain whether she is les or bi,
or even straight and just loves cute girls as a hobby,
but it is known for certain that the only reason why she
is able to fall in love with Forrest is specifically because
of his feminine appearance.
If anything this conversation has a very progressive message
to it, namely "true love knows no gender or barriers"
If the entire LBGT movement is about allowing anyone to love
anyone else, wouldn't this be something they should agree with?
Thank you so much for disabling the voices! I don't like the English voice acting, so I turned them off as well :T
There are no voices in the supports in Fates.
Why do you dislike so much?
AH, well. Guess I wouldn't know if there's voices or not in the supports since I turned them off, hehe. My point still stands though, I Don't really like the English VA in Fates cuz their lines get annoying and I think many of the voices don't fit the characters. Plus, I like making up the voices in my head on my own.
WTF?
+ddon47 FTW!
same
Forrest is a transbian lol queen
Fucking thank you YES SHE IS.
If forrest looked like a guy I wouldn't touch that glove
Ugh.....