To try everything Brilliant has to offer-free-for a full 30 days, visit brilliant.org/Wolfgang/ . You’ll also get 20% off an annual premium subscription. Links: Totem by GEISTGEIST: github.com/GEIGEIGEIST/TOTEM Totem (Tenting version) by Bert Plasschaert: github.com/BertPlasschaert/TOTEM-Tenting KLP Lamé Keycaps by braindefender: github.com/braindefender/KLP-Lame-Keycaps Soldering iron: pine64.com/product/pinecil-smart-mini-portable-soldering-iron/ Soldering tip cleaner kit: geni.us/xQ0L1c (Amazon) Batteries: www.ebay.de/itm/256408901266 Keymap Editor by Nick Coutsos: nickcoutsos.github.io/keymap-editor/
Great content! One note about battery life: you can enable ZMK deep sleep, which can extend battery life to 1-2 months. The tradeoff is that you'll need to wait a couple of seconds for the keyboard to wake up after it enters deep sleep.
I had to make a hard cut with keyboards for some time, for personal reasons (and unfortunately still need to pause), but it's so overwhelming to see such nice (and well produced) videos as yours featuring one of my boards. Feels kinda surreal to watch a "regular" youtube video where someone is talking about something I created and honestly didn't expect more than a handful of people actually build one. Thank you a lot for this!
Thank you so much for the mention! I've been watching your channel for a while and never expected this to happen. I'm happy you are enjoying the tenting mod :D As for the highest angle setting, you are correct this is not supported as I was unable to achieve the correct angle on the outer keys without altering the top case or making the bottom plate even thicker. Those were deal breakers for me unfortunately. The middle setting should work. Thanks for the feedback and have fun typing!
I have the exact same totem setup and using a thicker deskmat that absorbs some force it allows for the higher tenting settings to be stable enough for daily use! Great video and interesting keymap choices! :)
I've been thinking about making this one too. Custom keyboards have gotten to the point where I can finally make what I want, and now I'm starting to think about unnecessary niceties like an led array to show me the active layer
I've been using a split keyboard since 2020, and have switched to homerow mods in 2022. I only stuck with it on the 3rd attempt, so I can understand your frustrations with it. All I can say is that it's by far the best way to use a keyboard, but it requires some getting used to and A LOT of tweaking. I have dialed in the tap-hold timings exactly how I need them. I started really high, at like 300ms, and then went down in 10ms increments, until the keypresses started becoming ambigious. I also noticed that this point is different for different fingers, so I also started adjusting the timings on a per-key basis.
@@WolfgangsChannel yes, my home row mods are Win-Alt-Shift-Ctrl, in this order from left to right, on the left half. Mirrored on the right half, of course. I tried other orderings and found this one is superior by far, but again it's preference on one hand and highly dependent on the layout on the other hand. I use Colemak-DH, your experience on QWERTY will, of course, be different. Also, as a fellow german you HAVE to look into unicode input. If you're anything like me, you've hated the DE layout on normal keyboards back then and hate it even more now, but losing the ability to type umlauts on the US layout sucks. What you can do however is input any unicode character (including äöüß) directly using Compose on Mac, WinCompose on Windows or IBus on Linux. This feature should be coming soon in ZMK, but it's already there in QMK and KMK.
@@subrezon As yet another German: This actually sounds more like "I want a compose key" to me. Which works on Linux perfectly and for Windows there's the amazing WinCompose. I would never want a key for ü, I'd rather type compose + " + u and can also compose ① or ¢ or whatever else you can come up with, on a US international layout
@@darklajid I don't really want a compose key, I don't input any Unicode outside of the 4 umlauts, which I have space for in my layers. Compose is a neat thing though.
Changing to an ergo keyboard saved my hands (literally). I'm pretty hard on keypress (not that fast, but pretty heavy and consistent typing without rest) and have a bad habit of staying still for hours just for coding. So back then, using a normal keyboard would make my hands hurt so much that I had to get a complete half-day break to reset the pain. My journey to the ergo keyboard also didn't go that well. My first ergo is a fully customized PCB with a requirement of 4 keys per thumb. Besides the excellent functionality it brought, the build (3D printed case) was too shit that I wanted to get rid of the cover off and use acrylic instead (worse appearance but better in build quality overall). Now I settled with a MorErgo at home, and my first ergo keyboard I place it at my company (so I don't have to put a keyboard in my backpack when going to work). The journey to switch to the ergo keyboard was hard too-at least 2 months of getting familiar with/trying out multiple layouts-but I have no regrets, and surely, I never want to go back to the traditional keyboard again.
Nice video, I've been using Ferris Sweep for two years now and over time you get better at writing symbols. You can also use a Magsafe with magnets to tenting, it might be more stable.
I dont know how i wasnt aware of louis rossmanns video of reacting to jayztwocents soldering job, but it made my day. He hisses twice after that clip, lol. I would like to see you trying to build your own ergonomic mouse as well. Doesnt jlcpcb offer aluminium cnc or stainless steel 3d printing, i am not aware of their pricing, but if you are happy with the case, it might be worth it.
This was a very persuasive video, I think this is the model I'll be putting together this Christmas. Also, where's that desk mat from? It's absolutely adorable
Great video! Welcome to the world of split Keyboards ❤ I've got a 36 keys Piantor split keyboard for about a year now. Never going back to regular keyboards. As I had TKL boards before the switch Im used to writing the numbers on the regular places. But its an interesting thought to have them on a layer. No homerow mods either, but I guess it's woorth a try.
If you ever get a JLC sponsor print it in metal, probably would sound a lot better. I have the same switches on a ZSA voyager and they are much deeper.
I have been making the wired version of this for a while now and this board is amazing! If only I could figure out where I shorted/bridged the board as my middle row does not work...
I really really love the design of the totem, but would need around 20 more keys (~60%) for the shortcuts I use. Some 4 combo shortcuts use would need to be like 7 keys at once on the totem and remapping them would be difficult with the amount of shortcuts per application. I'm keeping a look out larger keebs with a similar design.
Yeah! I've also been looking around for a close to 60% split board that isn't a pre-built. If you ever find one that interests you let me know I'd love to take a look at it. Might have to tough it out and see if I can get by on the 38 on the TOTEM as it has a layout that I like.
For you living in the European union: the import fees for the Ergodox EZ will cost you around 70€. And UPS don't even provide you a receipt for paying it.
As for the resin prints from JLC... They differ from one resin to another. Look for «rigid» resin if you can. I printed my caps at home more than a 1.5 year ago and they haven't a single scratch by now. Also, don't know why it is popular to place tilted caps to the thumb cluster. Seems like a saddle ones would be just fine.
У меня ъ и х на отдельном слое. Жить можно, но не особо удобно. Думаю сделать правило для Karabiner, чтобы ъ можно было печатать с Option+ь, а х - Option+з
@@braindefender i think its pretty comfortable, i would also like to have tilted sadle side way on my keycaps, is there a file like that on your repo ? or maybe @WolfgangsChannel has it ?
@@zabejaga9489у меня на отдельном слое "хъэё", звучит угрожающе, мне нравится. Женщине как жертве смартфонов дал сплит с колонкой сбоку под х, ъ холдом на ь, ё холдом на е.
I love these type of vids. Innovative and ergo te h is so cool. We need more advanced input devices. Especially when uy comes to gaming controllers. I wonder what the next evolution of gaming controller will be 🤔
Split keyboards looks horrible to me... But that's the best thing about custom, it's not for me and that's okay, I hope you love it! I recently got a Keychron Q6 Max with a gorgeous purple keycap set, and put in some MX Blue switches, feels and sounds amazing. I'd love to properly build my own eventually though.
I love the idea, visuals and would be interested to giving this a try in spite of .. soldering being scary. Would you be open to disclose what you actually ordered and from where? Because the parts you did mention are rather high-level and it seems every single electronic part, switch etc are an exercise for the reader to locate.. which adds to the "I'm not all too sure about my soldering skills" angst
Keyboard sounds like having a squirrel digging in the roof, ;-) Interesting that you did this, I recently bought myself a cheap Alice keyboard with mech keys which I'm liking a lot despite bad reviews. (which probably sounds like a mini steam train). I'm however enjoying it and don't use it to do much typing as a online teacher. :-)
8:15 there's a certain.. pain in seeing someone build a custom ergo split keyboard, but still use qwerty on it i would recommend workman, it has a fair few modifier keys in the same place, and at least for me, only took a few days to get used to (but again, i'm a pretty slow typer)
I'm a slave to Vim, and due to the nature of my work (DevOps), remapping the keys is not an option. That's why I ultimately decided to stay with QWERTY
That's great, but I wanted something that's more like 86 keys (I have a separate numpad attached to a phone mount), although I could see myself doing away with function keys. I just need to have enough layer buttons so I can access the keys such as Alt+F4 for Linux. It's nice that I have enough room for function keys. I don't mind paying more than $300 though.
Impressive. Very nice. Still, a bit too expensive for me, especially when I do not have soldering iron. But this market seems to be a new 75% mechanical keyboards, so I hope better prices will come.
last time I built cornes I also looked into it at JLCPCB to use their assembly service, but it was too expensive in my opinion (not really the parts, but the service) and most keyboards don't have the files ready on github, so you are up to yourself to create it (not that hard actually, but you need to get into KiCAD). I just got the stencil and used solder paste. If you are dirt cheap you can solder in a pan with sand, even though I personally would use one you perhaps don't use for food anymore (even though I don't see a reason for contamination) or you use a used mini oven. This also adds up but you can use it more than once if you plan so.
Very good content -thx a lot! (I'm going to invest a lot in optimizing the tilt-up's, because that makes up 50% of the ergonomics/comfort, and mechanically you can easily make prototypes from scratch and in the final version on the 3D printer (or wood, fiberglass, hemp fiber laminate, casein fiber molding, or conrete for the home station ,-)) What I miss, in ya item is the (mouse-)track ball - did ya think `bout it too?
Is the Kinesis Advantage not even on your radar? it's no more expensive than some of the models you mentioned, and the only keyboard I'm aware of that has the concave shape to conform to the length of your fingers.
It's an interesting concept, but yes, the price is very steep. I also appreciate Totem's form factor, since I can just toss it into my laptop bag when I go to work.
Take a look at the MoErgo Glove80. It smokes the 360 in every way except ease of tenting (not functionality, ease) and "feeling robust". It actually is robust though, just doesn't feel that way, because their goal was a light board.
Well, if have trouble with all the special characters then try the Caldera from Christian Selig .. couple more Keys on that one.. can also be downloaded ;) (Also, your diodes are huge ! :P )
I see one big downside of using such a very custom keyboard, which is also a dealbreaker for me: As soon as you get used to it, you basically loose your ability to operate a normal keyboard over time. And that's a nogo for me. Typing on my wife's notebook here and there? Typos all over the place. Helping friends and family from time to time? Typos all over the place. Need to use a computer in a public place? Typos all over the place. No, that's not worth the probably more confortable experience at home.
My main machine is a laptop, so I do have to use the laptop keyboard a lot. So far, I haven’t noticed my laptop keyboard typing getting worse. I’ve tried typing on my HHKB when I was filming the b-roll for this video though, and that’s a completely different story. I’m not used to it at all anymore
After 20 years of typing on a regular keyboard, I guess it takes a long time to unlearn. You said it yourself. Typos when using another keyboard already. But you get used to new keyboard in a day or two. So even if you exclusively used a Totem for over a year, you will still be able to type on a normal keyboard. He might type 'jkl' quite a bit for a while but nothing too bad😅
I have no problems occasionally typing on a regular keyboard after 3 years of maining a split. Interesting fact is that I typed the wrong way before lol, with 2-3 fingers per hand, and mostly used pinkies just for Ctrl and Shift. So I type with 10 fingers on a split and I type the wrong way on a generic keyboard. I guess these are 2 completely separate sets of muscle memory, so there is almost no interference.
I type on an symmetrical and orthogonal kb with a lot of thumb keys for a decade now. I sometimes need to use classic staggered keyboards on laptops and even if there are few typos there and there, this is really not a huge deal. It's like borrowing someone else's car : you get used to it.
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I've been switching between a ferris sweep and a Charybdis nano with a 34 key layout and my ability to use a standard row staggered keyboard has not gotten any worse at all even though I sometimes spend months using exclusively the split boards
underscores fishmonger spotted. Also cool board, I want to swap to lowpro as I'm already on a split. This layout looks cool but I don't think it's the right one for me so I continue searching.
@WolfgangsChannel did you consider Dactyl-Manuform? It would be even cheaper to build, as the body is fully 3d-printed, and the connections are handwired, removing the need for PCB, so that the bill of materials is very low, consisting of switches, keycaps, diodes and controllers + batteries.
Hello, I see that you have a sadle tilted side ways on your internal thumb key, i also would like one, do you still have the file for it ? i can't find it on the KLP Lamé repo
According to this data sheet, Imagine Black resin is certified to be used in "certain biomedical applications such as in contact with teeth and skin" api.wenext.com/storage/pdf/3d-printing/wenext-imagine-black-introduction.pdf
I know this not the question you expected, but what is the polling rate of the the keeb? If it's not 1khz, is there any modifications that can be made to get it to atleast .5khz?
It's not 2.4G, it's just another bluetooth controler (the same as those soldered on the boards), connected directly to the computer. It then does all the heavy lifting being what zmk calls the Central, while the two boards are then just Peripherals which makes them use much less battery.
Interesting. Does anyone know about a better option to print the keycaps in a somehow better / stronger way ? (seems otherwise one of the major drawback)
How did u made it possible to „turn“ the keys for the thumb inwards? Am i dumb are those keys not in the lame repo? German cause i assume u oht of DACH region. Wie hast du es geschafft die Keycaps in der Thumb Row nach innen zu drehen? Sind die nicht alle „vertikal“ geprinted?
There is a fork of the repo with reversed saddle keys, but to be honest, I wouldn't recommend setting it up that way - I switched to regular flat saddle keys for my thumb cluster and it's a lot more comfortable
"Less than 50 keys" Why don't we go all the way and shrink things right to 5 keys? Oh wait, we have a five keys input device already, it's mouse. 😂 Just kidding. Although this solution is definitely not for my need, it was a fun watch.
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Links:
Totem by GEISTGEIST: github.com/GEIGEIGEIST/TOTEM
Totem (Tenting version) by Bert Plasschaert: github.com/BertPlasschaert/TOTEM-Tenting
KLP Lamé Keycaps by braindefender: github.com/braindefender/KLP-Lame-Keycaps
Soldering iron: pine64.com/product/pinecil-smart-mini-portable-soldering-iron/
Soldering tip cleaner kit: geni.us/xQ0L1c (Amazon)
Batteries: www.ebay.de/itm/256408901266
Keymap Editor by Nick Coutsos: nickcoutsos.github.io/keymap-editor/
Great content! One note about battery life: you can enable ZMK deep sleep, which can extend battery life to 1-2 months. The tradeoff is that you'll need to wait a couple of seconds for the keyboard to wake up after it enters deep sleep.
I had to make a hard cut with keyboards for some time, for personal reasons (and unfortunately still need to pause), but it's so overwhelming to see such nice (and well produced) videos as yours featuring one of my boards. Feels kinda surreal to watch a "regular" youtube video where someone is talking about something I created and honestly didn't expect more than a handful of people actually build one. Thank you a lot for this!
Thanks for open sourcing such a nice design. 🙏🏼
Thank you so much for the mention! I've been watching your channel for a while and never expected this to happen. I'm happy you are enjoying the tenting mod :D As for the highest angle setting, you are correct this is not supported as I was unable to achieve the correct angle on the outer keys without altering the top case or making the bottom plate even thicker. Those were deal breakers for me unfortunately. The middle setting should work.
Thanks for the feedback and have fun typing!
Thank you for the mention! ❤🔥
I have the exact same totem setup and using a thicker deskmat that absorbs some force it allows for the higher tenting settings to be stable enough for daily use!
Great video and interesting keymap choices! :)
I didn't expect a keyboard video from you but I love it, not only that but it's about a split wireless keyboard? Hell yes.
I've been thinking about making this one too. Custom keyboards have gotten to the point where I can finally make what I want, and now I'm starting to think about unnecessary niceties like an led array to show me the active layer
I've been using a split keyboard since 2020, and have switched to homerow mods in 2022. I only stuck with it on the 3rd attempt, so I can understand your frustrations with it. All I can say is that it's by far the best way to use a keyboard, but it requires some getting used to and A LOT of tweaking.
I have dialed in the tap-hold timings exactly how I need them. I started really high, at like 300ms, and then went down in 10ms increments, until the keypresses started becoming ambigious. I also noticed that this point is different for different fingers, so I also started adjusting the timings on a per-key basis.
Do you also use HMRs for the Shift keys?
@@WolfgangsChannel yes, my home row mods are Win-Alt-Shift-Ctrl, in this order from left to right, on the left half. Mirrored on the right half, of course.
I tried other orderings and found this one is superior by far, but again it's preference on one hand and highly dependent on the layout on the other hand. I use Colemak-DH, your experience on QWERTY will, of course, be different.
Also, as a fellow german you HAVE to look into unicode input. If you're anything like me, you've hated the DE layout on normal keyboards back then and hate it even more now, but losing the ability to type umlauts on the US layout sucks. What you can do however is input any unicode character (including äöüß) directly using Compose on Mac, WinCompose on Windows or IBus on Linux. This feature should be coming soon in ZMK, but it's already there in QMK and KMK.
An alternative to HRM could be One Shot Modifiers, on other layers or not. I've used HRM while touch typing, and I found them awful.
@@subrezon As yet another German: This actually sounds more like "I want a compose key" to me. Which works on Linux perfectly and for Windows there's the amazing WinCompose. I would never want a key for ü, I'd rather type compose + " + u and can also compose ① or ¢ or whatever else you can come up with, on a US international layout
@@darklajid I don't really want a compose key, I don't input any Unicode outside of the 4 umlauts, which I have space for in my layers. Compose is a neat thing though.
Changing to an ergo keyboard saved my hands (literally).
I'm pretty hard on keypress (not that fast, but pretty heavy and consistent typing without rest) and have a bad habit of staying still for hours just for coding. So back then, using a normal keyboard would make my hands hurt so much that I had to get a complete half-day break to reset the pain.
My journey to the ergo keyboard also didn't go that well. My first ergo is a fully customized PCB with a requirement of 4 keys per thumb. Besides the excellent functionality it brought, the build (3D printed case) was too shit that I wanted to get rid of the cover off and use acrylic instead (worse appearance but better in build quality overall).
Now I settled with a MorErgo at home, and my first ergo keyboard I place it at my company (so I don't have to put a keyboard in my backpack when going to work). The journey to switch to the ergo keyboard was hard too-at least 2 months of getting familiar with/trying out multiple layouts-but I have no regrets, and surely, I never want to go back to the traditional keyboard again.
Reminds me of the Goldtouch tenting keyboard I had at work many years ago. I really liked it, especially in combination with a sit-stand desk.
A mechanical keyboard video from my favorite content creator?!
Today is a good day. 💜
Nice video, I've been using Ferris Sweep for two years now and over time you get better at writing symbols. You can also use a Magsafe with magnets to tenting, it might be more stable.
rocking the chocofi with miryoku layout as default and still getting around using it.Nice video as usual.
I dont know how i wasnt aware of louis rossmanns video of reacting to jayztwocents soldering job, but it made my day. He hisses twice after that clip, lol.
I would like to see you trying to build your own ergonomic mouse as well. Doesnt jlcpcb offer aluminium cnc or stainless steel 3d printing, i am not aware of their pricing, but if you are happy with the case, it might be worth it.
This was a very persuasive video, I think this is the model I'll be putting together this Christmas. Also, where's that desk mat from? It's absolutely adorable
There is a perfect keyboard, most people simply die before they find it.
Great video! Welcome to the world of split Keyboards ❤
I've got a 36 keys Piantor split keyboard for about a year now. Never going back to regular keyboards.
As I had TKL boards before the switch Im used to writing the numbers on the regular places. But its an interesting thought to have them on a layer.
No homerow mods either, but I guess it's woorth a try.
Looks nice, like the sculpted keycaps, it's sad that the tenting is not more stable.
Adding some bumpons to the outward edges might help with the stability at higher heights
7:08 💀
If you ever get a JLC sponsor print it in metal, probably would sound a lot better. I have the same switches on a ZSA voyager and they are much deeper.
I also have a deskmat, so that might impact the sound.
@@WolfgangsChannel usually deskmats will just lightly soften/dampen the overall sound, rather than affecting the actual tonality
I have been making the wired version of this for a while now and this board is amazing! If only I could figure out where I shorted/bridged the board as my middle row does not work...
10:19 fishmonger? nice! have you heard wallsocket??
What is the Pinecil soldering iron kit/case thing you have visible at 3:23? It looks amazing and I've been looking for something like that!
It looks like a 3d printed case, probably the one called "Multipart Pinecil Case" on thingiverse (the orange colored one if you search that term).
Nice reference at the beginning
I built a wired and wireless TOTEM and I love it!
Love the intro. Good oold days
Really cool keyboard, and the intro sketch was perfect! I could not find the tenting stands.
I really really love the design of the totem, but would need around 20 more keys (~60%) for the shortcuts I use. Some 4 combo shortcuts use would need to be like 7 keys at once on the totem and remapping them would be difficult with the amount of shortcuts per application. I'm keeping a look out larger keebs with a similar design.
Both ZMK and QMK allow you to map one key to a macro/shortcut combination
@@WolfgangsChannel Yeah I know, but not what I was saying.
Yeah! I've also been looking around for a close to 60% split board that isn't a pre-built. If you ever find one that interests you let me know I'd love to take a look at it. Might have to tough it out and see if I can get by on the 38 on the TOTEM as it has a layout that I like.
For you living in the European union: the import fees for the Ergodox EZ will cost you around 70€. And UPS don't even provide you a receipt for paying it.
dude this looks amazing.
It's pleasure to see another beautiful keyboard build with my KLP Lamé's. 3:15 «мама, я в телике!» :D
As for the resin prints from JLC... They differ from one resin to another. Look for «rigid» resin if you can.
I printed my caps at home more than a 1.5 year ago and they haven't a single scratch by now.
Also, don't know why it is popular to place tilted caps to the thumb cluster. Seems like a saddle ones would be just fine.
Парни, как кириллицу то впихнуть в 36-38 кнопок?
У меня ъ и х на отдельном слое. Жить можно, но не особо удобно. Думаю сделать правило для Karabiner, чтобы ъ можно было печатать с Option+ь, а х - Option+з
@@braindefender i think its pretty comfortable, i would also like to have tilted sadle side way on my keycaps, is there a file like that on your repo ? or maybe @WolfgangsChannel has it ?
@@zabejaga9489у меня на отдельном слое "хъэё", звучит угрожающе, мне нравится. Женщине как жертве смартфонов дал сплит с колонкой сбоку под х, ъ холдом на ь, ё холдом на е.
I love these type of vids. Innovative and ergo te h is so cool. We need more advanced input devices. Especially when uy comes to gaming controllers. I wonder what the next evolution of gaming controller will be 🤔
I really love the keycaps.
Split keyboards looks horrible to me... But that's the best thing about custom, it's not for me and that's okay, I hope you love it!
I recently got a Keychron Q6 Max with a gorgeous purple keycap set, and put in some MX Blue switches, feels and sounds amazing. I'd love to properly build my own eventually though.
I love the idea, visuals and would be interested to giving this a try in spite of .. soldering being scary. Would you be open to disclose what you actually ordered and from where? Because the parts you did mention are rather high-level and it seems every single electronic part, switch etc are an exercise for the reader to locate.. which adds to the "I'm not all too sure about my soldering skills" angst
No problem. You can find the entire list of parts on GEISTGEIST’s GitHub page, in the “build guide” section.
Ah what the heck I'm just gonna copy your build 1:1 Wolfgang, thanks for the detailed video
Apart from overall “why(not)” questioning this would the best (hardest) way for my lazy brain to get nice training.
I was fully expecting a sponsor segment at 2:40 Lol
I was already moving to mark it on sponserblock before he said it wasn’t lol.
Try a tape and a foam mod. It's very low cost. Maybe it helps.
I'll be very curious to see if you ever decide to switch back to the HHKB or topre switches in general, but this looks like a very cool project.
Keyboard sounds like having a squirrel digging in the roof, ;-) Interesting that you did this, I recently bought myself a cheap Alice keyboard with mech keys which I'm liking a lot despite bad reviews. (which probably sounds like a mini steam train). I'm however enjoying it and don't use it to do much typing as a online teacher. :-)
choc v2 in silent are awesome. I recommend the switch (needs other caps though)
Great video! I love Miryoku but to each his own :)
Uses JLCPCB, has Brilliant as a sponsor
Where is the desk pad / mouse pad from?
nice keyboard
dactyl manuform is the next step
8:15 there's a certain.. pain in seeing someone build a custom ergo split keyboard, but still use qwerty on it
i would recommend workman, it has a fair few modifier keys in the same place, and at least for me, only took a few days to get used to (but again, i'm a pretty slow typer)
I'm a slave to Vim, and due to the nature of my work (DevOps), remapping the keys is not an option. That's why I ultimately decided to stay with QWERTY
That's great, but I wanted something that's more like 86 keys (I have a separate numpad attached to a phone mount), although I could see myself doing away with function keys. I just need to have enough layer buttons so I can access the keys such as Alt+F4 for Linux. It's nice that I have enough room for function keys. I don't mind paying more than $300 though.
well you should check older ergonomic kb like the Truly Ergonomic.
loved the video! i use a split keyboard (corne) myself and am really curious to check it out now. do you have a great solution to the keycap problem?
The creator of the keycaps mentioned in the comments that he printed the keycaps on his own resin printer, and they don't have the same issues
Bruh there is no such thing as an endgame, don't foul yourself
Svalboard
Master Forge
Challenge: Try to switch to the Colemak keyboard layout :D
Hey, thank you for the video. What layout are you using? I know remember you learned dvorak a while back.
Impressive. Very nice.
Still, a bit too expensive for me, especially when I do not have soldering iron. But this market seems to be a new 75% mechanical keyboards, so I hope better prices will come.
A lot of people use PCBA to get the SMD components pre-soldered
last time I built cornes I also looked into it at JLCPCB to use their assembly service, but it was too expensive in my opinion (not really the parts, but the service) and most keyboards don't have the files ready on github, so you are up to yourself to create it (not that hard actually, but you need to get into KiCAD).
I just got the stencil and used solder paste. If you are dirt cheap you can solder in a pan with sand, even though I personally would use one you perhaps don't use for food anymore (even though I don't see a reason for contamination) or you use a used mini oven.
This also adds up but you can use it more than once if you plan so.
Very good content -thx a lot!
(I'm going to invest a lot in optimizing the tilt-up's, because that makes up 50% of the ergonomics/comfort, and mechanically you can easily make prototypes from scratch and in the final version on the 3D printer (or wood, fiberglass, hemp fiber laminate, casein fiber molding, or conrete for the home station ,-))
What I miss, in ya item is the (mouse-)track ball - did ya think `bout it too?
Can you tell the desk mat you're using?
Is the Kinesis Advantage not even on your radar? it's no more expensive than some of the models you mentioned, and the only keyboard I'm aware of that has the concave shape to conform to the length of your fingers.
It's an interesting concept, but yes, the price is very steep. I also appreciate Totem's form factor, since I can just toss it into my laptop bag when I go to work.
Take a look at the MoErgo Glove80. It smokes the 360 in every way except ease of tenting (not functionality, ease) and "feeling robust". It actually is robust though, just doesn't feel that way, because their goal was a light board.
Welcome to the split keyboards world) There's no way back now)
AYO that intro
"Apart of my colleagues being convinced that I am a lunatic..."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, if have trouble with all the special characters then try the Caldera from Christian Selig .. couple more Keys on that one.. can also be downloaded ;)
(Also, your diodes are huge ! :P )
More and more people are saying the totem is end game. Which is why I have a PCB sitting in my office ready for me to eventually solder
it might be end game if you already like 40 keys split kb, for other people it's just another unpractical design.
do you have a link for that desktop mat? :) 10:15
I see one big downside of using such a very custom keyboard, which is also a dealbreaker for me: As soon as you get used to it, you basically loose your ability to operate a normal keyboard over time. And that's a nogo for me. Typing on my wife's notebook here and there? Typos all over the place. Helping friends and family from time to time? Typos all over the place. Need to use a computer in a public place? Typos all over the place. No, that's not worth the probably more confortable experience at home.
My main machine is a laptop, so I do have to use the laptop keyboard a lot. So far, I haven’t noticed my laptop keyboard typing getting worse.
I’ve tried typing on my HHKB when I was filming the b-roll for this video though, and that’s a completely different story. I’m not used to it at all anymore
After 20 years of typing on a regular keyboard, I guess it takes a long time to unlearn. You said it yourself. Typos when using another keyboard already. But you get used to new keyboard in a day or two. So even if you exclusively used a Totem for over a year, you will still be able to type on a normal keyboard. He might type 'jkl' quite a bit for a while but nothing too bad😅
I have no problems occasionally typing on a regular keyboard after 3 years of maining a split.
Interesting fact is that I typed the wrong way before lol, with 2-3 fingers per hand, and mostly used pinkies just for Ctrl and Shift. So I type with 10 fingers on a split and I type the wrong way on a generic keyboard. I guess these are 2 completely separate sets of muscle memory, so there is almost no interference.
I type on an symmetrical and orthogonal kb with a lot of thumb keys for a decade now. I sometimes need to use classic staggered keyboards on laptops and even if there are few typos there and there, this is really not a huge deal. It's like borrowing someone else's car : you get used to it.
I've been switching between a ferris sweep and a Charybdis nano with a 34 key layout and my ability to use a standard row staggered keyboard has not gotten any worse at all even though I sometimes spend months using exclusively the split boards
Build looks cool but I still prefer 100% ANSI keyboard.
HEAT THE BOARD
Thanks!
Wish I could give two thumbs up, one for the video itself, and one for the good ol anti piracy ad
Love the intro 😂👌
Can you share a link to the kickstands?
underscores fishmonger spotted. Also cool board, I want to swap to lowpro as I'm already on a split. This layout looks cool but I don't think it's the right one for me so I continue searching.
Did you use a KU-1255 with a German layout before? That thing is super rare but awesome.
I lol'd at that opening
Wouldn't you try something with trackball?
Keyboards.. and custom keyboards at that..
Endgame? No! Down the rabbit hole he goes 😂
This is so awesome!!!
i own that exact same thinkpad keyboard and every time i think i built a new endgame i end up going back to it lol!
@WolfgangsChannel did you consider Dactyl-Manuform?
It would be even cheaper to build, as the body is fully 3d-printed, and the connections are handwired, removing the need for PCB, so that the bill of materials is very low, consisting of switches, keycaps, diodes and controllers + batteries.
Did you mod your Thinkpad keyboard shown on the desk in the beginning? I would love to buy one, but the Ctrl-Fb swap is a dealbreaker.
I use it as a keyboard for my couch gaming PC, so the CTRL key position hasn’t bothered me as much.
fishmonger on the music widget kinda insane ⁉️
instant like for the "YoU wOULdn'T DoWnLOaD a KeYboaRD"
Hello, I see that you have a sadle tilted side ways on your internal thumb key, i also would like one, do you still have the file for it ? i can't find it on the KLP Lamé repo
printing resin hid devices is a bad idea, those are not body safe and release toxic subtances when used in contact with skin oil.
According to this data sheet, Imagine Black resin is certified to be used in "certain biomedical applications such as in contact with teeth and skin" api.wenext.com/storage/pdf/3d-printing/wenext-imagine-black-introduction.pdf
I know this not the question you expected, but what is the polling rate of the the keeb? If it's not 1khz, is there any modifications that can be made to get it to atleast .5khz?
No idea, sorry
@WolfgangsChannel 🥲
Thanks for replying tho
Louis Rossmann my beloved
more keyboard videos please….🙏
Can you make a more detailed video on how to use 2.4G wireless instead of Bluetooth? I am very interested in that.
It's not 2.4G, it's just another bluetooth controler (the same as those soldered on the boards), connected directly to the computer. It then does all the heavy lifting being what zmk calls the Central, while the two boards are then just Peripherals which makes them use much less battery.
Hey, do you still have those pcb? I would love to buy a set. (I'm from Poland)
Miryoku all the way
Interesting. Does anyone know about a better option to print the keycaps in a somehow better / stronger way ? (seems otherwise one of the major drawback)
How did u made it possible to „turn“ the keys for the thumb inwards? Am i dumb are those keys not in the lame repo?
German cause i assume u oht of DACH region.
Wie hast du es geschafft die Keycaps in der Thumb Row nach innen zu drehen? Sind die nicht alle „vertikal“ geprinted?
There is a fork of the repo with reversed saddle keys, but to be honest, I wouldn't recommend setting it up that way - I switched to regular flat saddle keys for my thumb cluster and it's a lot more comfortable
"Less than 50 keys"
Why don't we go all the way and shrink things right to 5 keys? Oh wait, we have a five keys input device already, it's mouse. 😂
Just kidding. Although this solution is definitely not for my need, it was a fun watch.
How about one key? th-cam.com/video/XBV0piKtNjI/w-d-xo.html
@@WolfgangsChannel aside from the joke, chord computer keyboards are in fact a very old design.
You wouldn’t download a keyboard
Hey i was wondering if you could do a video of a t520 Lenovo been Libre booted. Ive done the the t500 its easy but the t520 is much harder
Seconds layer sound all and good, but for less frequent stuff :) Anything less than 75% is pure masochism (imo) :)
i guess that's one way to prevent anyone else from using your computer ))
How many keycaps of each variant did you end using?