Nice video of one of my favorite camping and star gazing areas. Also, very interesting geology there. It is an uplifted submarine canyon, and the rock formations are sandstone, not granite. The grinding holes were mainly used for acorns, a staple of the Chumash diet.
Sandstone?! Very interesting and thanks for that info. Yes, it occurred to me later that it would be acorns the Chumash were grinding. Thanks for watching.
😅😂 yes indeed. It isn't as easy as following a well-used trail; however, it was fun nonetheless. I did wonder why no one seemed to hike this old trail. It seemed interesting enough to me
Good morning Pat. Wonderful video. I have noticed on other apps that what they say isn't always true. Historical marker locations for example. Roadside attractions. Sometimes I wonder if people purposely put this information.
@@PatsTravels I was also thinking that back in the day certain map companies would put one error on each page just in case another company was copying their maps. Paper roads? I wonder if there are paper trails for the same purpose. Trap roads?
I am glad you enjoyed the video. There aren't any official sites, though etiquette dictates you find a site someone has already used instead of creating a new site. Thanks for watching and enjoy your trip there as it is a beautiful place.
@@BushcraftWoodsDevil it is approximately 12 miles down Del Venturi Road after turning off Mission Road. You have to drive through a military base to get there so be mindful of firearms and other prohibited items
@@PatsTravels thank you for the info. I am going camping at Memorial Park Campground later this month and wanted to see the grinding holes. Is this before or after the campground? Do you have GPS coords for the spot? Thank you for your help - - much appreciated!
@@BushcraftWoodsDevil the large rock formation is next to the area where I boondocks. It isn't a developed campground in case you weren't aware. I will let you explore on your own to find the artifacts and even then I didn't show everything I saw
Great place to bring your friends. Terrible place to put on TH-cam. Why are you blowing up this place? Keep it to friends. Not to everyone. Come on Pat! Wtf
@@PatsTravels if you tell everyone about the last untouched places- they get overrun. I’ve watched Indians attract more and more people over 30 years, and the forest service might close it because of the increasing misuse. People find it online, have no clue how to behave in the wilderness and trash it. Introduce people personally please. Take down your video. Why pat? Is it a way to be more popular? It’s not worth it. Let people find the wild places. No need to blow then up. Please.
I used to live in the area. What he is showing is a well-known site among locals (and by some outside the area). The video didn't reveal where it is, nor say what its name is (it's in the area called the Indians, but that's not the name of the rock formation). The site is checked by monitors, including Salinans, to discourage damage. There is no rock art that could be damaged there, just scores of mortar holes. In my experience, it is visited by a few people a day in spring and fall. At least in my experience, visiting there inspires respect for the Salinans. I'm grateful to Pat for this video.
Nice video of one of my favorite camping and star gazing areas. Also, very interesting geology there. It is an uplifted submarine canyon, and the rock formations are sandstone, not granite. The grinding holes were mainly used for acorns, a staple of the Chumash diet.
Sandstone?! Very interesting and thanks for that info. Yes, it occurred to me later that it would be acorns the Chumash were grinding. Thanks for watching.
Nice views
@@PreachyMax it is a beautiful place. Thank you for watching
Ya bushwhacker! Look! A squirrel went up there once. I'll try it.
😅😂 yes indeed. It isn't as easy as following a well-used trail; however, it was fun nonetheless. I did wonder why no one seemed to hike this old trail. It seemed interesting enough to me
Good morning Pat. Wonderful video. I have noticed on other apps that what they say isn't always true. Historical marker locations for example. Roadside attractions. Sometimes I wonder if people purposely put this information.
I have more than one friend who are of the mindset that misinformation is the best way to keep special places secret
@@PatsTravels I was also thinking that back in the day certain map companies would put one error on each page just in case another company was copying their maps. Paper roads? I wonder if there are paper trails for the same purpose. Trap roads?
Good afternoon Pat!
Hi Pat! love your video. Is it possible to just camp if you find a nice spot or you have to camp in designated camping sites? we love you
I am glad you enjoyed the video. There aren't any official sites, though etiquette dictates you find a site someone has already used instead of creating a new site. Thanks for watching and enjoy your trip there as it is a beautiful place.
Can you please tell me how do you get to that from Memorial Park Campground, thank you.
@@BushcraftWoodsDevil it is approximately 12 miles down Del Venturi Road after turning off Mission Road. You have to drive through a military base to get there so be mindful of firearms and other prohibited items
@@PatsTravels thank you for the info. I am going camping at Memorial Park Campground later this month and wanted to see the grinding holes. Is this before or after the campground? Do you have GPS coords for the spot? Thank you for your help - - much appreciated!
@@BushcraftWoodsDevil the large rock formation is next to the area where I boondocks. It isn't a developed campground in case you weren't aware. I will let you explore on your own to find the artifacts and even then I didn't show everything I saw
@@PatsTravels okay thanks much!
Howdy Pat. Still fighting the red line wars. 🎉
😂 TH-cam is such a cruel mistress 😅
Thanks for watching again
Was this footage shot last Fall then?
Yes, November 2022. I usually show the date in the video description.
@@PatsTravels it’s gonna be very green out there in the Spring. I’m gonna take my kids and do a one nighter for their first backpacking trip :)
@@jedidiah357 what a great place to introduce them to backpacking. Enjoy
Great place to bring your friends. Terrible place to put on TH-cam. Why are you blowing up this place? Keep it to friends. Not to everyone. Come on Pat! Wtf
That's one way to look at it.
@@PatsTravels if you tell everyone about the last untouched places- they get overrun. I’ve watched Indians attract more and more people over 30 years, and the forest service might close it because of the increasing misuse. People find it online, have no clue how to behave in the wilderness and trash it. Introduce people personally please. Take down your video. Why pat? Is it a way to be more popular? It’s not worth it. Let people find the wild places. No need to blow then up. Please.
I used to live in the area. What he is showing is a well-known site among locals (and by some outside the area). The video didn't reveal where it is, nor say what its name is (it's in the area called the Indians, but that's not the name of the rock formation). The site is checked by monitors, including Salinans, to discourage damage. There is no rock art that could be damaged there, just scores of mortar holes. In my experience, it is visited by a few people a day in spring and fall. At least in my experience, visiting there inspires respect for the Salinans. I'm grateful to Pat for this video.