The TRUTH About Chicken Strips
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To summarize: no one cares what your tires look like. Have fun, don't crash MotoJitsu.com
True, but you should. Because like the knee they are a very good reference point as to where you are with your leaning in the turns. Simple as that.
1 very important thing you forgot to mention in this video, is tire pressure. Guys dropping the tire pressure to 20 psi for example are going to use the whole tire without getting to max lean angles, vs having normal road recommended tire pressures like 34- 36 psi. It really makes a huge difference.
Agreed. Any Rider that is taking their Tires to the edges on public roads is either stupid, suicidal or has no understanding of counter-steering and Motorcycle Dynamics.
If you're the type who wants to get your knee down and lose your strips, do what I did and go to California Superbike School (I assume they're still around). You use their bikes, leathers, boots and gloves on a track near you so you don't have to worry about trashing your brand new bike with super sick matching helmet. You'll be sliding your knees till the cows come home guaranteed. Make sure your bike is capable and set up properly and you can do it on your bike too.
I would modify this to say: "Only posers care what your chicken strips look like"
If you go looking for the limit, one day you’ll find it.
I dont look for the limit.. the limit is looking for me…
I track my bike regularly and I have no chicken strip on the back or the front tire. I don't care what anyone says, chicken strips on the street are a sign of mature riding and safety.
100 percent man. People who worry brag about their lack of chicken strips on the street don't know what they're talking about
@@benchaggaresmusic I completely agree you and the top comment. If you go to a track a few times with your bike you'll have zero chicken strips. Trying to get rid of them on the road is nuts!
40mph on a 180 hairpin type corner on a track is nice to get your knee down.
You won't even notice that you're further over on the tyre, it'll just feel right at the time.
Experienced riders who have been on track will know you'll have chicken strips if you're just riding on the road.
Don't get "chickened" into something stupid.
You ride for you.
You do your thing your way.
But if you want to get your knee down because it's what YOU want then you'll also get rid of the chicken strips. But don't be focusing on the strips, it'll happen when it's right.
My first time on track I went to a track school on their bikes, just in case :-))
Best thing iv heard in a long time.
Dave Moss does an excellent video on this, explaining the technical details of tire profiles etc. FWIW, if you lose a few PSI you can remove your chicken strips, or ride with a pillion, or are just fat like me. Being able to go around the corner doesn't mean you're a better rider, it means you have probably removed your ability to deal with something unexpected. I went for a ride a few weeks ago with a bunch of people on liter bikes, I ride a zx-14. We were out on some very narrow tight windy roads in New Zealand, some of which had loose gravel and bovine excrement on them. When we got to the end of the ride, they asked me why I couldn't keep up. I said, well, I'm listening to you all talking about sliding in gravel and nearly not making turns, and I didn't have any of those issues. So, yeah, I had chicken strips but I wasnt "slow" - but at no point was my life or bike in danger. That's how I feel about chicken strips.. (note that some of these roads are country lanes, beautiful scenic roads, but not enough room for cars to pass easily going opposite directions).
Bovine excrement lol. So cow shit?
The chicken strips thing was probably just started by some ahole trying talk people into crashing on the road.
What's the point in having a wrecked bike just to get the edge of the tyre worn? I prefer to go slow in fast out when I can see through the corner.
The old road north of Sydney has the same crowd. If you are so fast why aren’t you winning races in the track? I guess they’re the chicken strips.
I live in the north of Spain, lots of any kind of corners, I drive nor fast nor slow... you know, at that pace that you can drive relaxed and control everything just with gas and coast... Using the brakes when needed, but the least the best... I found that kind of driving very satisfying.
I don't use all the tyre. Just common sense, if something unexpected happens, you better have margin to do something, like lean more.
If you have already consumed all the rubber, then what?.
I ride for fun, not to get killed on public roads.
And remember: many times someone at home is worried from the very moment they hear that engine running, untill you show up again...
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Exactly. Never lose sight of the whole picture. Stay alive, don't get tunnel vision.
Fantastic comment my Spanish friend! Hope everyone that gives a dang about such a pointless thing as chicken strips reads this and reconsiders! :)
Funny thing about this..... I'm actually actively trying to reduce the amount I lean my bike in corners. You call them chicken strips, I call it margin for error.
Bikes and tires have capability that can only be fully maximized on the track, far more than the street allows. If you ride street and don't have "chicken strips," you're probably riding like an idiot and it's going to catch up to you eventually.
Even the pros on perfect tracks have the bikes slide out them. Happens every race. But they have runoffs and all the awesome gear. If I slide off the road something it’s gonna be a super bad day.
@@AlphanumericCharacters yep. happens every day. here's one in the news today. no chicken in this dude! RIP. TH-cam won't let me post it, but it's on Kaotic titled: High Speed Fatality In Honduras
Or you’re just good at riding 🥴
30 years ago, we used to look at the wear on the "hero bobs" (on the foot rests). Later it was knee sliders (some people took to them with an angle grinder) but now it's elbow sliders!! Next, will be wear pads on the side of helmets!
i have pads on the TOP of my helmet! (i go under low bridges a lot)
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@@stevec-b6214 😀
I've been riding my frst bike, a Ninja 400, for a year and a half now and always had some small 'chicken strips' on the tyres and had comments made by others about them, but I never cared. I have fun in the twistys but I've never felt like I could do them any faster safely (lots of them are blind bends and you never know what's round the otherside), and in the area I live in the UK, the roads really aren't all that twisty anyways. I did my first trackday at Silverstone on Tuesday however, and within a couple of laps I had used the entire rear tyre - I was proud of that, because it showed my confidence in the corners was growing, but it also made me realise how there is no way on Earth I would be riding like that on the street!
And let’s be honest our UK roads aren’t exactly smooth like in the US and other places ….imagine trying to lean on our UK roads…and then chuck in taxi drivers, car /SUV drivers and van drivers into the mix lol
Like you said saving the lean for the track is the best thing…ride to survive on the road.
His description wasn't very clear. I think what he was trying to say is an individual with fantastic body position, who holds the bike up higher in the turns, because he's leaning off the bike further, could have big chicken strips, but can be way faster in the turns than an individual who has horrible body position and no chicken strips.
I remember back in the 70’s hearing about dudes taking a coarse belt sander to their tire because they wanted to look like Ricky racer. It was stupid then and is stupid now (as Greg previously has pointed out.)
Maybe half the bikes I have ever owned had scrape marks on the foot pegs or center stand (the ‘73 CB750) but seriously, it seems the attention To chicken strips has been born of TikTok and TH-cam.
I confess that I have no fucks to give about chicken strips, never looked for them on any bike, mine or yours and am amused by those who obsess over them.
Ride safe.
Edit: That’s a fine lookin’ Suzuki there, Greg!
I recall hearing about chicken strips long before Tic Tac or TH-cam social media. That was in the Joe Rocket boy racer days, maybe late 90's. An entire generation of "squids". Riding motorcycles for the image, validation and attention, not for the ride. This is who I believe has started the chicken strip obsession.
LOL I used to work in the local Yamaha bike shop back in 01 when I first heard the term squid and I thought what the hell is that and I told me it means squid now and Wrecking cuz you're a new Rider now all the kids say noob as in New I love the terminology that they come up with for an old audiology of being cool and trying to impress
LOL also I remember back in the day the guys used to come up there with their race Leathers on with their knee pucks and I'd use belt Sanders on their knee pucks and then brag and lie
Why does anyone care what someone else’s tire looks like.
Insecure middle schoolers thinking.?
Ride your own ride.
me I care specially with my friends..because if the side of the tires is not used its gonna be hard and slippery..better to use all usable parts by doing proper corning..
but not the way how squid that they use chicken strips for bragging where they already reach the very end of the side of the tires which is ridiculous in someways..
I've been riding for years and this is the I've ever heard of this being a thing. My only concern when riding with people is that they are being safe. Don't be the dick pretending the streets are a track day, wreck, and ruin everyone's ride.
If you don't have chicken strips and you only ride on public roads, you most likely are on spare time.
After that last piece of unused rubber, you have nothing.
Chicken strips should be a badge of honour. It means A) you are aware of your limitations, and the bike is better than you which is always the way it should be and B) You've always left some grip in the bag for if thigs go wrong mid corner
Bullshit, go test your limits on the track and not with everyone else on the road. Filthy squid
The bike is always better than the rider.
"A badge of honor"?😂😂🤣🤣
@@EVILSPAWN1003 its always best to have more in the tank on the road
@@markgr1nyer Obviously you don`t know, or trust the capabilities of a moden bike and modern tyres. They`re called hero pegs and THEY will tell you when your tank is running low. Not empty,low
chicken strips, the argument of fake moto guys
this weekend i i had couple of bikers behind me in the mountain twisties that couldnt keep up, their tires without chicken strips , my bike a royal enfield himalayan lmao
I was learning/driving since september last year and started watching your channel at the same time since our motorcycle schools only teaching us how to pass all practical tests for driving licsense exam and not real word advanced driving techniques. Also at the same time i got my first bike ktm 690 enduro and while finishing for my licence already got 600 brake in miles down on it without a scratch. Now i have 4350 miles with some small enduro falls on dirt and gravel but nothing major (full leatt body protection, cross boots, helmet, gloves) but i never came close falling on the road thanks to your video lessons. And on chicken strips topic: i live in a hill area with narrow streets so when a full size bus or suv appears while doing a closed narrow u turn with slope you have to learn to counter lean at low speeds and sticking as far from the middle lane as possible so my 50% road 50% offroad mitas e07 tires using 100% of its surface even when i am not offroading with lower pressure.
The end of the day just ride your own ride, if people push to keep up or show off then it's only going to end one way, this passion of ours has enough risks from other road users, why add to it, be proud of your chicken strips! 😎🏍️ Ride safe everyone
there'll always be someone faster. ride and enjoy at your own pace.
You have wonderful content to learn, much appreciated!
1) you will have to lean the bike more to make the turn, however you will have less traction through the turn. The faster you're going - the easier it is to lean. Learning to lean your bike going slow is a good skill and will help if you need to swerve as you will reaction faster and with more balance. Just a thought.
Nope
It also depends on the bike and tire size/profile
For example, i have a NT700. Rear tire is a 150/70/17. I don't need a lot of lean to remove chicken strip. The tire is a Mitas Touring sport. Somewhat flatish profile, so at 35-36 degrees of lean angle, my chicken strips on the rear are gone. Thats also about as much as the footpegs go, so there is that
The front is a standard 120/70/17, so there is plenty of chicken left 😂 like 1.5cm each side
But at the end of the day, the only reason to get rid of chicken strips is to have the surface scrubbed in
Anyone that makes fun of chicken strips should not be taken serious
Thank you for explaining!
Another good video. Explain that very well. I agree the chicken strip conversation is a pointless one. The goal is to have fun and be safe and get home at the end of the day. And I'm one of the few that tries to practice those low speed figure eights. They really help for other situations... Thanks MJ
I’m a new rider as of last year, I hear it all the time.
I personally use the strips to know my progress in the corners.
Don’t give two shits what others think about them lol.
Exactly. People always find something to point out about others. It's so pathetic. It's a reflection of their insecurities. Just enjoy the bike and be safe. That's all that matters.
Correct, because those same people that'll ridicule you will be the same to laugh when you drop your bike trying to touch the edge of your tires
i wouldnt recommend to take chickenstrips as an indicator for your progress.. as he said, it only adds more risk. my daughter crashed because of this stupid BS chickenstripshit
@@bjorntappe4139 it is a good indicator of confidence and you can see your progress. I watched a guy on a Harley go into the ditch on the smoothest and nicest gradual curves last week, they were too scared to lean even like 1 degree! Same day but after a storm passed the road was covered in water and I did the same corner at twice the speed limit at night with malfunctioning headlights like it was nothing (because that was still slow for how gentle it was). Most people need to be more confident leaning (it certainly causes accidents) and I did that on old somewhat cracking duel sport off-road knobbies... So it was all rider confidence as the issue.
I still have a LONG ways to go and actively trying to get more confident in corners because a decade ago I wrecked on a gravel corner (more like ramped over the entire road) and went from being skilled at drifting with absolute ease to someone making turns slower than a grandma in hoverround (which isn't safe with traffic behind you) so last week finding the limit on my bike the lean angle was like 65 to 70 degrees when tight turning in parking lots, which is just feels insane. Now that I know that I won't be as scared to lean the bike over more because the limit is when my feet need to be lifted off the pegs, which is great to know.
And yes to find the limit one must exceed it, wouldn't recommend with tennis shoes and khakis, but the swelling on my foot is slightly going down and I'm eager to hop back on and practice some more! Be safe, wear your best gear, practice in parking lots where you won't get ran over, and don't be afraid of a little booboo, it's better to get a few scrapes now than in the streets.
@@bjorntappe4139 I will add just looking at my tires and spending hours on the weekends practicing turns, that visual indicator kept me going seeing the improvements. I went from nervous at 15 degree to playing around legs on the handlebar at 60+ degree lean angle, now I'm much more confident in turns and MUCH smoother and better driving lines since I'm not terrified and tensing up almost missing my entire turns. It's a good indicator, it's not everything but for direct comparisons it's great! Otherwise I'd have to strap a full gyro and accelerometer and log G forces and lean angles onto my bike (which I will, I'm a bit of a nerd and have some extra flight controllers), but for quick reference seeing how much more confident you are, it's a pretty good one (just like zip tie on the front shock to see when you almost bottom out)
I'm proud of my rather large chicken strips. Been riding 50 years and hope to get another 10.
It's all about the destination not how fast you can get there😁
I think perhaps that you meant to say that it’s _not about the destination_ but rather about the safe, mature and enjoyable way you ride to get there. Am I right?
@ibnewton8951 it's all about GETTING to the destination, he said what he meant I'm sure.
I’ve just noticed I have almost no ‘chicken strips’ but that’s because I keep practicing slow speed manoeuvres to keep my skills sharp.
Funny thing is, 20 years we never talked about "chicken strips", it was not a thing. All we cared about was scrubbing the tyres in for grip.
Exactly. I realize that my egoistical gen z cousins are the ones started talking about this "chicken strips" but on a dirtbike 💀 I deleted them from my phone afterwards.
Agreed, I think social media makes people more confident to belittle others they don’t know or have to see face to face.
Congrats for 300k!
Man, what a refresher this!
Can also vary from tyre to tyre, my chicken strips on metzelers were even front and back, but my new michelin road 6 tyres on the front are nowhere near the edges even though my riding is similar.
Years ago, in 1974 when I was 17, I had a Triumph Trident 750 with Dunlop K81 {TT 100} tyres, which ran at the recommended pressure of 26psi front and 28psi rear. I don't recall ever not using the tyres to the extreme edge back then but today have quite noticeable chicken strips on my 2003 Suzuki SV1000. I don't care but will say that I hardly ever hang off the seat as I did when younger, on various bikes and wonder if that's mostly due to today's much wider tyres, a running pressure of 36 front, 42 rear, or a combination of these two things.
How do you like the new GSXS? I have the old model and love it, other than the light switch throttle. Was thinking the new one might be it's replacement.
@MotoJitsu completely unrelated to the video,how did u make ur RPM counter buzz like that ( 1:14 ) , I have the same bike and am curious
Great video. I would love to see a short review or thoughts on the new GSXS 1000. I ride a 2020 Street Triple RS and I’m considering buying something with more power
Oops, found it
Just came across your channel and subbed... You are such a great teacher and you can ride your a$$ off !!!!! Man, I wish I learned how to ride a motorcycle the right way !! Thanks !
Depends. BP consideration. Yes, and parking lot drills give tire wear to edges.
Another reason: taking the same corner at the same speed but taking a different line.
I’ve been on training rides and someone has asked after “why are your chicken strips less than mine when we’ve just done the same ride?”
I don’t counter balance, and I don’t hang off, but I do lean my head and shoulders in.
Every corner I take I start wide, making my turn in as late as possible, and finishing tight. By necessity this means I will make a sharper turn than the next guy, especially if he takes the shallower racing line.
Of course if you are at max lean angle and on the brakes then this won’t work for you, but for me, it is great practice and is a lot of fun.
My current bike R1250RS leaves more chicken strips than my previous R1200RS, (on the same tyres/pressures -Michelin Road 5) which I find to be quite interesting, especially as I’m touching both heads down (on track of course) on the 1250.
I don't know the reason for this one.
Definitely meaningless between bikes and riders though, but can be a useful indicator when setting tyres and suspension up.
Greg, I have a R1250 Gs and I was thinking to buy a cilinder cover plate to instal on the crash bars like yours. Don’t you think this can reduce air flow ventilation? Tks 👊🏻👊🏻
Which vendor's engine crash bars do you have on your R1250GS? They look great!
Don’t forget tire pressure. Lots of guys in my area are running 30psi area. That gets you a fat contact patch and more heat in the tire.
Where did you get the GS engine guards?
Like the new Suz. Putting my GSXR on Castle Combe at end of June.
Fast and intermediate guys are wearing tyres to edge. Fast guys are quicker only because of better body postion. Same bike lean angle but faster.
My tires look like moses parted the red sea. I only commute around town dgaf about chicken strips. Great video
I generally don't push my bike over to the edge of the tire that close on the streets I'll hang off the bike a little more. But on the track I ride my bike a lot different. It lives on the edge of the tires there.
I live in Kansas where even the country roads go in dead straight lines. 1/3 of my 5,000+ mile Z900RS rear tyre (I'm a Brit) still looks brand new.
What brand are those head protectors on your GS ? Where did you get them ?
Great explanation and hopefully now people understand all the factors. If you spend time looking at everyones chicken strips you are missing time you could be riding. Well done.
I still havent gotten on a bike yet, but id love to get some lessons from you brother. You are on your A game, you know your ish! Im out here in SFV
Try to learn from other people and their mistakes by watching stuff like DanDanTheFireman and motojitsu.
Buy an appropriate bike for a beginner.
Wear a helmet (Noone thinks you are cool without one).
Drive at your own pace and practice in empty parking lots.
Don't be afraid to drop your bike.
@@rustyshackleford4514 thank you. Im all over that, probably because im terrified of an accident that is preventable. And I really want a bike. Spend everyday watching dandans vids, solid advice. Watching an accident online helps me not make that same mistake. Cheers bro
Totally, i have a 200 wide tyre on my S1000RR and if you are down to the edge of that tyre on the street, you are riding way too fast for the road. Only on track with proper temp, riding position and pushing to the limit will the tyre be fully used. A 200 wide tyre has a very steep shoulder and would be over 50 degrees of lean angle to get their. It is not something I would be happy doing on the road from a safety point of view.
MotoJitsu chalked out at South Shores parking lot next to SeaWorld. 20, 30 & 40ft circle. Cone weave markings for all belts, and quick stop measurements
What brand of tires, You got on Your new "Suzuki"?
My gsxr has fairly big stripes, I dont think i take the corners slow, has the fact that the bike is lowered anything to do with this??
I have a 2020 gsx-s1000, the same tire size as yours and my chicken strips are about an inch wide and honestly I could care less
one of my coworkers was mocking me for it, meanwhile he was scared to even ride in a straight line
Eliminating chicken strips and dragging knee-two cheeks of the same arse. As a rider you have nothing to prove. Greg’s Suzuki GSX has a bit of unused portion at the edge (chicken strip) but he’s still working that tyre pretty hard for the street (1:50). Safe, but fast-especially out of corners 👊🏽
Also safety margin… sometimes you need to lean a bit more.
Damn that nice Suzuki is nice. Would be cool to hear your review about it.
Its not all black and white. I use all the tire on my ZX10R now and is also down with my knees (thanks for the tutorial MotoJitsu) and I wouldnt say thats reckless for streets. Why? Because the bike can still lean more even though im out riding on the edge. Yes i use all of the tire, but you can still lean more and use a smaller amount of the tire. I remember started out as riding 8 years ago on a suzuki SV650S with big chicken stripes. Back then my HUGE chickenstripes absolutely didnt prove i was aware of my limitation or I was a good driver. They proved that I was very uncomftable in corners. Therefore the name chickenstripes. I still believe that in 9/10 cases where two sportbikes are parked next to each other, the one with no chickenstripes is better in corners than the rider with a huge chickenstripe. Simple as that.
My chicken strips get smaller when I practice in a parking lot,
Then I go ride slowly round the mountains. I enjoy leaning the bike, thing is if I routinely lean it all the way to edge on the road, I got no more left for when I need it. JIK
Ride your own ride and enjoy it.
Hey can someone help me?
So.. I have a s1000rr 2021 not elektronic suspension, my front tire is only 1 millimeter left & rear tire nothing almost, an I am only going like 48°degrees next week I wil go on track and wil sure hit more than 50°I am scared to lose the front or back?? That's not normal right? Is it my suspension? Tire présure?
Shoot. That’s only half the puzzle cuz you got tire pressure and suspensions settings that can effect all of that too.
Love this.
The last person that took the piss out of my tyres then wiped out mid corner only a few days later. If you're street riding then you will always have some "chicken strips" unless you are doing something really wrong or reckless.
look at the front tire!
if u have unused parts u can lean way more!
rear tire is easy to get on the edge!
I think it has a lot to do with what kind of roads you have to ride on. I just got an mt09 and it has 800 miles on it but it might only have 15 miles on it where I’m actually giving the bike any amount of lean. I’d say probably 1/4 of the tire still looks unused
I like your bike matching sliders/slipper 🤣 you going full Gixxer squid on us 🤣
Well. There is a good thing to look at your tyres, even for a (fast) street rider, and that is if you are riding with the correct tyre pressure. And to check for tyre ware ofcourse. 😉
And them there is the extreme, my m8 bought a bike that was way too big and powerful for him, he went around the corners so slow the bike virtually had no lean at all lol, and then in a straight line would give it everything both acceleration and braking, his tyres were bald in the middle inch or 2 and brand new on the rest of the tyre, it made the bike really awkward to ride because the tyre was not nicely rounded but flat in middle so when I rode it I found it felt wobbly as you started and finished the lean but had great grip and handling once leant over onto the good part of tyre lol.
His was a gpz900r and I had xv535 virago and we were well matched apart from motorway where he just disappeared doing 140mph plus whilst I was maxed out at around a ton.
Great video. I think I have more strips now even though i am far better and faster rider than before. I believe there is a fourth important point that was not mentioned, and that's the tyre pressure. You can loose you strips pretty easy if your pressure is (too) low. Don't ask me how i know😂😅 Since pressure is lower, contact patch is bigger, but bike is a bit slower to turn and max lean angle is also lower..
If you want a bigger contact patch buy a higher profile tyre, I changed from a 190/50 to a 190/55. There is a reason race tyres have a 60-65 profile.
Here in the UK we have lots of roundabouts. A guy putting down a lot of town miles can have smaller chicken strips than a guy who lives on rural twisties... but only on one side of his tyre lol
I am a daily driver and i have certain trip, certain turns, and even same traffic every single day, and my tires have no extreme job to do. And they wear like they wear: A SQUARE TIRE:-)
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I have a sequence photos of me on my road bike with touring tires overtaking less experienced riders with sport bikes and slicks on the inside lines. They had there knees down and i looked almost upright. They simply didnt know the correct race lines and were as a result slower and rode with more risk.
nice new ride man
As usual, I was just thinking of this and now there's a video about it
I think you said it long ago and not just you but anyone who's knowing what he is talking about, "the better rider is the one taking the same corner at same speed with LESS lean angle on the bike". The point on going fast on the bike is not to have MORE lean angle on the corner, but LESS lean angle while maintaining the same speed, as you said, moto GP or professional riders or even people on the track they have that extreme lean angle cause they are going as freaking fast as the bike can give on that corner so they MUST lean the thing at full. Less angle means less risk and a faster rolling at the exit, that's all. "less lean angle = faster stand up of the bike at exit = earlier rolling of the throttle = faster exit" hope i get that right X) haha
I got a 22 gsxs750 in June and I love it
So, "chicken strips" (to some) is the true gauge of rider ability (wrong). So is a "chicken cutlet" the huge flat spot you've created from a panicked, high speed, non-abs brake lockup? And when you dive into a corner at excessive speed, while desperately pushing the bike down, and perform the dreaded "bike and rider asphalt slide of doom", you are "the chicken that crossed the road" - because you are just a bad joke.👍
If you need abs or traction control you will always be an amateur. The front brake is meant to be able to lift the back wheel of the black stuff in the right conditions. Then mid corner a little bit of broadside to kick you out of the bend on a straighter line.
A lot of street corners where I live is dirt piles from crumbling concrete. If hit the throttle before you are straight, you can look pretty badazz(or dumbazz theres a fine line). I lean pretty good on the clean corners. I live near KC
Not many corners anyway where i am currently but I can't push the bike at all because of fear diesel/oil on the road
did I missed something? what happened to the mt07?
My sport cruiser has higher sets and mid controls, I’ve hit corners going 80 mph with no issues leaning and no scrapping, no chicken strips either, now I’ve ridden Harley bikes that do scrape way early in a lean but I have yet to scrape this bike.
Regarding the comment about cruiser bikes having large chicken strips due to low ground clearance, I'm 62 and ride an old 2012 Nightrod in Malaysia with a 260 rear tire. I have scrubbed my rear tire sidewall to sidewall on every set of tires for the past 10 years and have only dragged a peg ot the very end of the pipe (aftermarket V&H) twice. Just thought I'd mention that.
My new bike had big chicken strips and the tyres aren't too far from needing replacements, I was actually disappointed by the last owner for a bunch of reasons the rear mudguard being snapped and glued together is another reason. A month later and they are now the same as the Suzuki.
Ok
It's not even an argument it's just a way to bust someone's balls. But some dudes take it way too seriously and start acting like they're better than everyone because they don't have chicken strips.
I've been watching for 5 minutes and i haven't heard you mention how dangerous it is to be riding so aggressively ON THE STREETS that you have no chicken strips. Most of those people (gsxr1000 riders) die trying to get no chicken strips. Yeah they're cool, but they're still dead.
Was always as quick as mate's on day outs and didn't need to lean the bike over..better lines ,reading the road etc etc..
The height of the bike plays a big part too...a low bike like a zzr1400 needs to lean more as the rider has less leverage over it than a gs1200...same corner, same speed
Just because the tyre has tread there doesnt mean you have to use it (on the streets). Like some cars have traction control, i like to turn it off as i find it annoying but another driver might find it useful having a safety net.
Id say if someone is at full lean using up there chicken strips and the other biker with them us 10seconds or less behind but has chicken strips, the biker behind is better and faster overall but more of a "man" to choose and decide how fast to go on the street.
Any idiot can drive
ide fast, only a professional can drive
ide slow as they understand the bigger picture of riding on the street vs the track.
I don’t give hoot about other peoples tires but the wear on my own tires gives me an indication of my safety margin, which on the street I want to maximize. On the track I’m using body position to reduce lean angle so if I’m on the extreme edge of the tire I’m risking my body and my bike. An injury would impact my job and other things I love to do and I can’t really afford to replace my bike.
0:26 I would look at not only the contact area, but also the beveling on the grooves.
This shows the combination of lean angle and force exerted on the tire.
Q1. More lean... Q2 less lean... using all the tyre, while super fun and rewarding, even to the point of grinding foot pegs away. .. Until you run out of tyre. then it's really really expensive. and you loose a lot of skin.
Got any ranch for all them chicken strips?
Yeah I never really saw the point of tire wear being measurement of manliness or egos. I’d much rather go through a corner with proper body positioning rather than end result with a sliding bike and bruised ego (which, I have none). Tbh, that is way I prefer riding alone.
Ain’t that the truth. Group rides do nothing for me, just a recipe for disaster if there are any lunatics present.
Look man I agree with some of the arguments you made but yes if you have rounded off edges on your tyres you are riding fast and who cares. But learning the limit of your bike is a must if you want to ride safely so chicken strip's or none if you are using your whole tyre you are more understanding of what your bike is capable of.
It is also likely that many of the people talking about chicken strips might remove them in some other way, like going in circles in a parking lot at lower speeds just to lean the bike over as much as possible. I’ve seen it be done.
Its really a made up issue. Back when I had my F650 my tires were always used up to the last bit, now with my R1100 there is a good 5mm left. And I am cornering better and faster now than back then. It really depends on tire size, shape and the bike imo. And ofc your style.
People who brag about it really dont know what riding is all about, if they have no other problems than someone elses unused rubber 😂
i live in north germany. getting chicken strips off your tires seems almost impossible since we have almost no corners here
We have just straights and Autobahn were do I want to lean 😁
This is actually one of the reasons, I've stopped participating in *Bike Meets/Groups/Group Rides* This chicken strips thing, is all anyone seems to talk about. Zero discussion on Suspension setup, trail braking, low speed counter balance, bike maintenance or anything else of value. Its all just "Looks at the chicken Strips, Knee Down, 300km/hr on the freeway" I swear to god, these idiots are going to get motorcycles banned yet.
If you have chicken strips, you're years away from trail braking LMFAO!!!
When I first started riding sport bikes in my teens I was told buy a good friend of mine that's is a Tech for Yamaha he's always told me that if somebody says there are hard rider.... just go look at their Tire if the sides haven't been used obviously they're not riding hard there's no way you can go around corners extremely fast and not use the edge of the tire of course the main purposes is to keep the bike upright as possible but when your smashing you can't help but to use all the tire. I sure wish they would allow us to post pictures
Nice slippers 😂 love your videos
I started practicing body position since day one on big bikes, so I've never gotten to the tire edge, to do so with proper BP on the street with be some Rossi sh*t