The Mindset of Learning Fighting Games
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One of my old friends once said, "You become good at fighting games when you decide to stick with it."
This is stupidly true
the fact that people have to take it so seriously to get better is not fun.
@@Kriskazam Hey, if it's not your cup of tea, that's your thing. My friends and I get better just by playing, and we even have games to play casually. You don't have to play sweaty all the time.
@@Kriskazam if it was easy it wouldnt be fun at all, part of the reason people love fighting games, it's rewarding to master something so complex
@@Kriskazam i suppose they should dumb everything down i guess right? lets start with chess and remove half of the rules so new players can have fun without the learning aspect!
Finally, some content that caters for the people who just started playing fighting games. Dope shit, keep it up my dude!
Thanks man, will do!
Something that has helped me pick up a whole lot of different things, which is true even for lifting: Biggest progress is made right at the start. It's pure math, honestly. If you have little to start with, any gains are proportionally big. However small the improvement you're aiming for, it's gonna make a HUGE difference once you get it down. Keeping that in mind as a begginer is quite important.
as some one who has tought alot of peopl over the years and still does. that end was the most perfect encapsulation of the process.
Thanks that’s a huge compliment
@@emiliogallegosgarcia8573 basics concept for most /overal fighters. Or whatever i happen to stream at the time. but games I specifically focus on are sfv and BB tag. dont really do tekken much any more
I've been playing fighting games for a couple months now but I just gotta thank you cuz I'm feeling really stuck in my skill level and this video has ignited a new passion for the genre so thanks for the great content
I am currently playing Tekken 7. Took me a month to start feeling myself (pun intended. I don't play Leroy) and beat people online and help friends get better at it. I never felt more focused and obsessed with a genre. I even started playing Guilty Gear Xrd Rev 2 and enjoy it too. People simply need to understand that constant losses are a real lesson. Knowing thy character and the opponent is the key.
Also trying many characters and then becoming a character loyalist is going to help a lot.
Sorry if i necro your comment but as someone who have tryed to play tekken 7 , i find the online very hard. it's like a big wall when i couldn't do a thing against . Even after training many hours on training mode , learning combo , i find that the playerbase was not wide enough to let me fit in , maybe i should have tryed harder or try again with tekken 8 at his start (or any other new game ) , when nearly noone is good and make experiment.
I understand what you are saying. I really do. Fighting games in general are super hard to get to and the learning curve is massive. It will take years of practice. Sadly I quit fgs because my PS4 controllers gave up. I will play once again when I buy a strong pad.
Lots of good tips here. Thanks!
Glad, I could help out! Keep on hitting buttons my guy.
I'm extremely bad at fighting games but I really love it and enjoy it. I still have a lot to learn
I think one of the reasons ppl dont like learning fighting games (or other games n activities) is dopamine addiction. It makes you less patient and quit faster, to go on youtube or other sides for some dopamine hits.
I noticed myself while playing video games. if i turn off my pc and turn on the ps4, im able to play for longer periods of time and be more patient, because i dont have quick access to them.
Really liked your point on small victories, even in the event of losing a match.
I'm VERY new to Street Fighter, and I've been playing Cammy. In a match just the other day, I was in a mirror match and got air grabbed. I didn't even know Cammy could do that lol.
So a few matches later, I had one of those weird opponents that likes to jump around a lot. So I air grabbed him. He didn't jump so much after that.
I don't remember if I won or lost that match, but regardless, I came out of it better than I was when I went in
Hearing u said u would help anyone really hit me on personal level. As for me what made me give up is the ceiling level. Its like im stuck on the same skill level and not advancing. Its really frustrating. Great video dude.
I love going against people higher thn my skill level so I can absorb knowledge from that player
Perfect attitude to have my dude
Absolutely love this video. Using video games to explain this mentality is something Ive learned so late but working on it day by day!
Man this video really changed my perspective on fighting games. Thank you (btw you’re really good at explaining stuff)
TH-cam recommended this video to me and while I have some critique about things like audio quality and mixing, I think the overall production is really good and you raise some really valid points! Definitely earned the sub and excited to see you grow, keep going strong 👌👌👌
Thanks a lot, that means so much. I'm working on my quality for sure 😂
Awesome video, man! I've had an interest in the genre for years and learned a decent bit but I'm definitely a beginner. I'm starting off with SF 30th Anniversary Collection and picking up some of the newer fgs tomorrow to see what games I like. This video really helped cement that I love what little I've played and want to keep playing. I've been a fan of Smash and SF even if I'm not good and loved my time with Tekken 7. I'll definitely drop by your Discord group and hit up others for matches and maybe some general advice. Thanks for this video!
7:20 I really like that, I've only played fighting games all my life no wonder my steam library is only fighting games 🤣
Great video, gonna send it to everyone I know
You’re awesome dood. Thanks
This is good advice for literally any skill. Nice
Saw your reddit post. Thanks.
Yeah of course! Keep playing fighting games
I got really hooked on fighting games when i started playing one of my friends in DBFZ and he was just destroying me but i was learning and getting better every match every character i ko'd made me feel my progress and once i finally won a match against him i was hooked, now he and i play each other an a fairly equal level and push each other to try new stuff and i've been having a blast!
Great vid bro
Watching this in 2021 for the first time... it's a classic
Watching for the first time today!!2022
Amazing video
I would LOVE to learn GG and BB, but those games has always been too hard for me to play.
Not only do you have to worry about the system mechanics, but each character has their own specific mechanics that don't carry over to another. Idk how in the world people can swap back and forth between Nine, Rachel, Nu, Zato-1, Ramethal, and etc.
Oh I totally get it. I'm a Zato main. I would recommend just focusing on one thing at a time. It's okay to not be perfect out the gate, you don't wanna have too much on your plate. Then eventually it all comes together.
Would you be interested in some videos for learning ggxrd or bb? Bc if it'd help you, I'd love to do that!
@@BrendanMushi Oh definitely! I kinda can figure out BB since I play BBTAG, but GG is the hard one
@@jerekaneplaysthings7755 Yo! so I uploaded part 1 of a GGXRD tutorial in hopes of helping you. I'm not sure where you're at, so if the first part is TOO beginner friendly, I hope the other parts will help you as well. I'd appreciate any feedback ya got for me, so I can better help/entertain in the future, thanks for commenting and watching!!
I’ve been trying really hard to get good at guilty gear. I’m so bad lol like I can’t even do a simple combo against anyone because they are all so good but I’ve gotten close to winning a couple times because I use what I do know to the best of my ability while trying new stuff. I feel myself getting better and it feels good. But I’m not a newbie to fighting games so maybe that’s why I’m not having a hard time having fun. This video was is a very good video.
One must love Soul Calibur’s matchmaking, my third fight on line was against an S ranked player. And in the first 50 i got at least 3 more S ranked players plus A’s, B’s, and C’s.
I know your pain. I play nightmare and I still try to improve since a year ago. I now win every now and then. And I even don’t get stomped as hard as I used to by high ranks even getting a rare win.
Knowing your combos and counter hit combos is a must. You miss out on so much damage if you don’t. You can’t survive on basic stuff alone.
You also have to be curious in training mode and try out ideas. And you gotta iron out your common mistakes. For example you hit a move but then you don’t know what to do next and you get hit.
I try to look forward to fighting tough players so I can get used to it and learn new tricks. If I fight new people it feels so unfair and I dumb down my playstyle so they can learn something.
It’s really rough playing Soulcalibur sometimes. Very brutal.
Thanks, I needed to hear this, sf6 got me so tilted tonight.
I agree with most of this, but the skills transfer thing is kinda a design thing. In a shooter, you can sometimes hit by not being exactly on the target just by random spray or you can see that you were close, which is a lot more motivating to some than trying to do a shoryu and getting some normal and then put into the blender from the anti-air they thought they had found the right answer to, but their hands fail to cooperate.
The point halfway through is a good one, had my non gaming gf play xenoblade for little bit and the controlling the camera was a way bigger struggle than I thought it would be 😂
I just got guilty gear xrd rev 2 and I wanna get better but there's never anyone else playing.
Yeah, I know how ya feel. Because of stuff like this I decided to create a discord community geared towards newer fighting game players, but anyone can join. It's called Fighting Game Universtiy. I want people to teach eachother how to play, socialize/find ppl to play with, and host tournament etc.
It's still a work in progress, so bare with me but if you're interested I'd love for you to be apart of it! Here's the link: discord.gg/XATQ6bX
@@BrendanMushi thx man ill join it
Really good video
Thanks Nano!
the first shooter for me to learn was golden eye and the first fighting game was street fighter 2. a lot of us nowadays take for granted the cumulative skills we've learned through out the years from playing all these different games. we never really stop to think about how it feels to be an adult picking up a controller for the first time with no experience. next time i get impatient wiht a lets player completely sucking ass at the next big game they want to feature on their channel i should remember this lol.
This video is pretty good for novices like me.
Having ADHD hurts a lot when trying to learn fighting games, and I find it quite boring to learn stuff, and I don't really know an answer, I've picked up an interest for fighting games recently, and I would like to know how to learn more properly.
this is good content
Fightcade 2.0 old school fighters. A way to play people online.
this is like eggsoup thing
Really nice video, have you ever played jjba:heritage for the future?? Since it's an arcade game i have to play it with an emulator the online mode doesn't have any matchmaking system and so the pain is real.
I’ve played it in the past on a friends laptop locally, but not sure how to go about getting matches online. I’d google if there’s a discord community for the game
Thanks I am learning dragon ball fighterz
Anytime man, how's that been going? Also I have a new video on my channel today with some general fighting game tips. Feel free to check it out if you feel you need any advice!
Wow I just learned how to use an Xbox controller and get good at FPS games!
I really appreciate you saying that progress in fighting games is different, but not necessarily better. Most people come off with this attitude of “and in fighting games your progress is your own skill, not some stupid fuckin experience bar in games that fuckin losers with no skill play. Competitive games>single player games, bitch”
Only thing I can never understand is how do people pick up and learn tech so fast seems like I can never keep up
For most people it's a combination of past game experience and following the right discords, twitter pages etc.
Hey if you could work on a complete beginner’s Guide for this as well as Mortal Kombat 11 since, I’ve always loved the series more than tekken but, there aren’t too many tournaments near me but, my local scene is planning on having a launch tournament when the game comes out and if you could make a complete beginners guide when that title comes out as well as one for Tekken 7 it’d be much appreciated bro. Thanks for all you do for your fans.
Thanks for speaking up and letting me know what you want! I actually plan on doing both with higher quality.
My dream is to get more people playing fighting games and to continue teaching them. The quality of my videos are gonna improve a lot over time, I'm really excited about it.
BrendanMushi yeah, makes sense I’m planning on streaming a lot more on twitch once I get online play again in March so, I can stream the learning process and see if I can’t help get others into fighters as well. My twitch channel is gamerjord1 and the image is of Poison Ivy from DC Comics so, if you want to subscribe and keep notifications on for when I stream I’ll be streaming Monday’s, Wednesday’s and Thursday’s for T7 and Friday’s, Saturday’s and Sunday’s for MK11. If you want to support me in Patreon I have a Patreon page in the works as well for my channel. No biggie if you don’t want to support my Patreon and just want to support my streams that’s good enough for me. I appreciate the Patreon support if you want to give it if not it’s not a big deal
@@jordansmoviereviews9787 Thanks man I'll definitely check it out!
I love tekken but, I like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat more so, I decide to still play tekken casually with friends but, I think Street Fighter 5 AE and Mortal Kombat XL will be the main fighters I play I may not even stream right now actually seeing as I don’t really have much time these days right now at least.
@@jordansmoviereviews9787 I feel you, I'm focusing more on youtube than twitch rn. I do stream at least once a week tho.
I fear that, should I start playing fighting games for real (just bought SF6 but got no real prior experience) it'll be like any other game I play where I shift characters constantly. I do it in hero shooters, I do it in MOBAS, and in RPGs I usually got like 11 save files with different builds and characters that I play simultaneously.
For fighting games I've been told that I got to stick with a character and properly learn and master said character, and possibly have a few other ones as backup picks to cover bad matchups. My instinctive approach to games in general might be detrimental to fighting games, since it'll reset my knowledge every time I switch character...
Well, only one way to find out I guess.
Losing is just the part of the genre--
*Zero in 2010s: hold my smash bros victories*
I’m trying to learn Tekken 7 at a competitive level to go to local tournaments and I’m actually setting up casuals at my local ESports scene and any tips on how to learn from not only people at my skill level but, people who are way above? That’s part of my problem is, sure I can learn easily from people right at or just above my skill level but, I can’t seem to gain anything from the people who just demolish me any tips?
If you're playing locally, the best thing you can do is talk to your opponent after the match and ask them questions. You could even ask them to keep playing you while giving advice. I actually do this at like EVERY tournament I go to. Hope that helps!
BrendanMushi yeah, it definitely does actually, my local fighting game community in general not just Tekken 7 but, any fighting game I try to get into even though tekken is my main game I love Mortal Kombat as well they usually give advice without me even having to ask which is great. My uncle, actually got me into the MK series with the first game back on the Sega Genesis and it’s hilarious because, I used to get beat by Raiden’s Flying Punch move all the time until, I jumped deeper into competitive fighting games and now whenever he uses it on me I block it and combo him into the corner and keep him there and he always gets so pissed off and starts complaining “Let me out of the corner!” or “This isn’t a fair fight!” A variety of similar complaints come with the territory and I just laugh and say “oh, how’s it feel to get beat all the time, not very good does it?” Then he usually, just slams the controller on the ground and go into his bedroom and pouts over the fact that I beat him and what makes it even funnier is my uncle’s over 40 years old and he acts like a 5 year old when I beat him at a fighter it’s quite hilarious.
@@jordansmoviereviews9787 LMAO You just described my love for fighting games. The adaptation of people getting better and better. It's awesome to have a rival and watch each othewr constantly get better. If you're making your opponent complain then it means you're doing it right! hahaha
BrendanMushi oh I know, my uncle’s not really my rival since, he doesn’t own a console I just like kicking his ass especially with characters he used to beat me with when I was younger lol.
I am planning on learning Tekken 7 in Online Play but, I want to make sure that I go about learning using online play in such a way without building bad habits that I make mistakes in local play. I’m not sure you understand exactly where I’m getting at here but, if you do I’d like some tips please
Once I renew my Playstation 4 online membership again in March I mean
@@jordansmoviereviews9787 The only way to not build bad habits online in Tekken is to first understand the basics of playing Tekken first. My channel is focused on fighting games and getting people into them. If you'd like, I can make you a guide for the basics of Tekken and bad habits newer players tend to make. As long as it helps you guys, I will always make content for ya'll.
@@BrendanMushi I think it would help a ton. The only guide that's really good is the tekken from beginners series from Aris at Avoiding The Puddle but, I can't watch those without thinking about a story from awhile back when Street Fighter X Tekken released that Aris sexually abused the only female on the team he was coaching. I'd much rather go to a less experienced player such as yourself to get advice than to be disgusted the whole time while learning the game from a man who did that. If you could do that I'd really appreciate it.
@@jordansmoviereviews9787 Thanks man, I got you! I'll work on it asap. I love Aris, but I remember watching that. It was not a good look for the fgc.
BrendanMushi yeah, I used to like Aris but, not anymore I think that that made me not like him. It’s like you old ass creep that girls at least 20 years younger than you. I just simply can’t feel good about supporting someone that vile and disgusting at least I myself can’t.
i'm new to fighting games in general and i recently started playing unist. i get overwhelmed in actual matches (even vs cpus) because it feels like the fight is happening so fast and my mind goes blank while i try to not panic and button mash. and this still happens after spending time in practice and tutorial modes. do you have any tips on getting acclimated to this? it feels like my mind moves too slow for inputting combos. should i break it down and practice more cpu matches where i limit myself to using a specific set of moves before moving on to others?
Yo! 1st off this is normal, it's a lot to take in. I think you should learn at your own pace. Play againt easier cpu's and just focus on what you want to focus on. Take it one step at a time and have fun. Do that and you'll naturally get better until you're not overwhelmed anymore. Hope this helps!
Hey Brendan, I decided to start my channel to play NRS fighting games and I was hoping that you would help me out and take the moderator and editor roles, if not no biggie. I’m trying to find somebody to take those roles so, I can start streaming later this week or next if possible.
Glad to hear you're starting it! Currently, I'm busy with getting my own channel where it needs to be, so I have to decline. Good luck tho
Ok no biggie, I’ll just moderate it myself then, it’s not a big deal since, it’s my channel I want to assure I put in the time sharing my gifts with others. I’ve always loved playing fighting games and I figure why not start a twitch channel and share my passion with others and help people who are just learning fighting games level up as well as level up myself since, to tell you the truth I’m not all that great at fighters period even at my favorite 2D fighters which are the NRS games aka MK and Injustice so, I will definitely be playing a lot of MK11 when it comes out starting with the story mode on launch day so, be sure to stop by April 23rd when it launches I was going to go to a launch tournament but, I don’t think I will I will learn more about the game on twitch streams first. I also preordered the premium edition of the game so, I will definitely be streaming matches for the online beta as well as my first impressions of the gameplay etc.
I always figured that people that like fighting games have no real life ambitions or a job that satisfies them, so they try to "improve" at a video game instead.
Frame 1 sub from me. Solid advice, 100% agree
Yo let’s play Mortal Kombat X!
Better. Faster. Stronger. Learn new mechanics. Practice combos. Do it again. Again. Again. Grind. Overcome. Again. Again. Again. At least that’s my thought process.
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"Play against people at your skill level"
And here is the crux of the problem. You know hopping online won't work because the gap is way too high to learn anything.
And if anyone IRL is pushing you to get into it, they're probably not chumps either.
So... it's good that Fighting Game University exists, at least. But I guarantee you that there's a LOT of people who just sit around waiting for something like Riot's game to actually just explode. (Personally I'm gonna try to get KOFXV at launch and pray that *someone's* as much of an idiot as me)
Bro would you play giilty gear rev 2 with me?
Guilty*
i think fighting games should stay harder and inaccessible so that less people play it and the general population feel more alienated from it. and the oldheads can stay happy in there own world and there is less glory to it that's glamorized to inspire people to wanna be a part of it. :)
Why is this genre thirsty for more gamers becoming fighting players? I get this vibe. Even in real life I do.
bc it's the best
if you've only played COD, Doom, Halo, Overwatch, then you definitely can't transfer that over to Counter Strike lol. Counter Strike has a similar learning curve as fighting games honestly
i always find this "if u stick with it, you'll figure it out" with fighting games.
are people just not aware of the MANY people stuck in the lowest ranks that have 10s of thousands of games.
it's not seemingly UNCOMMON for people to have 40k matches and routinely lost to people with 100 matches or less in ranked.
i should add that in MANY cases it is true.. but in more cases than really any other genre of game there are people that are just permanently bad
Maybe. But the thing is that the people losing are probably not actively looking at what they are doing and are missing something. Not ironing out all the small mistakes they are doing. Nowadays you can record your matches. You can grind your way up that way.
But if they have some kind of disability or naturally have some kind of a disadvantage then I guess it’s hopeless for them.
Hey man, love the vid! Just getting into fighting games and the points you made really helped me out. Trying to get into MK11 on PC so if you (or anyone else) ever wanna play sometime, feel free to add me steamcommunity.com/id/Ashlyn_Black/
Thanks, I appreciate it! And for sure I'm down to play
If your playing mk11 on ps4, hmu i would love someone to spar with . Psn is Kenjimarusaki
I actually play on PC, but I plan to play on PS4 eventually. Once I do I'll let you know.
@@BrendanMushi Thanks for the reply! I've always enjoyed fighting games but ive never been able to get in deep. Maybe someone with your expertise could inspire me and then I could share the experience with someone else. Anyways, you definitely deserve a sub. 👍
@@tylerconner6152 That means a lot, that's the purpose of this channel is to build a community of people who love fighting games and want to learn to play them at all skill levels! Thanks for your support!
I just lose even to persons who never played the game after days of training and online matches. Please i dont how to succeed in fighting games. Maybe i am too weak for FG.. i payed 32 Dollar. I dont want to throw it out of the window. I think i will never touch a FG again. I have much more in my life i have to care to except stupid games
Read, watch,play,ask.