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So i went on the link on to the token list section but idk what to do from there, i saw that you recovered a seed phrase from there but i dont know how to do it or what token list to use
hey crypto guide! i appreiciate your efforts to teach all of this stuff on youtube. I have a question would you please answer me - I ran the same program for bitcoin standard bip39 wallet with tokenlist but it gave me counting passwords more than 12 factorial that is more than 476 million and it is going on above. do you know what is the problem here?
Sounds like you had more than 12 lines in your tokenlist file. Just start with the usage examples in the written documentation and edit from the if you are having trouble.
Good job getting it sorted. Feel free to direct any Eth tips to 0x72343f2806428dbbc2C11a83A1844912184b4243 to support ongoing work on the project. (1% of funds recovered is my standard suggestion makes it easy to work out, regardless of the fiat price)
I got a question,that is complex,If scrambled 12 Word Seeds ,meanwhile lost a word and do not know the wallet address, how to use the tool, looking forward to your response,THX😀
Missing a word greatly increases the complexity to the point that it will take months, so depending on the wallet value, is may not be worth it. Missing an address is no problem if it's for a coin/chain where you can use an address database.
@@CryptoGuide yep,Yes, I am currently using the latest database file you shared, but due to a missing word and out of order, I don't know how to add those parameters. I have tested several times and have failed
@@CryptoGuide I wrote a script myself to generate 2048 mnemonic words (fill in the forgotten word) in a txt document, and then processed it in batches. However, the order seems to be out of order, and I am quite frustrated with how to attach parameters to achieve the desired effect
Hello @Crypto Guide. I Currently editing my token list to scramble the last 12 words in my seed phrase for 24 words seed recovery. Can you please tell me if I did this correct? 1. in my token list I placed ^1^ word 1 etc. until word 12 in the positional and required anchors 2. the remaining 12 words are scrambled and place on separate line now with the argument functions in python seed recovery do I change the "--mnemonic-length 12" to "--mnemonic-length 24" seeing that its a 24 word seed phrase or I do not change the length to match the amount of words? Thanks alot for your great help. You are number 1.
I'm thinking if I choose length 24 to search for scrambling 12 words only out of 24 words the script may search for "up to 24 mistakes, 24 of which can be an entirely different seed word" and actually its only 12 words need to scrambled. Please advise. Thanks again
Hello! Thanks for te excelent tool!!! I have a question. I have my 12-seeds But ive realised that i have one duplicated word. Is there Any command to tell the script that try combination only swapping that duplicated word??
Firstly, duplicate words are valid, so unless it says the seed is invalid, it might not have a problem. If it's just a single word, just run the defaults and it will find it very quickly, there is no point narrowing it down...
Thanks for this guide. Very helpful. I am not a programmer or computer expert, so please pardon my ignorance. Does running this Btcrecover command "hurt" the computer at all, as in using up all the memory or something else that could damage an ordinary computer?
It doesn't do anything harmful, though it will max out the CPU continuously, so your system will get quite warm. (And may crash if you don't have sufficient cooling)
@@CryptoGuide Thanks. I really appreciate your help. I ran the command with your example ETH wallet command and the BTC recover was able to give me the correct order for the wallet in your example. I then tried it on my own and was not successful. I wanted to test I was doing things correctly by creating a new ETH wallet with 12 words. I mixed up the order of the 12 words and ran the command. After 11 hours of running the command, I got the "Seed not found, sorry" message. I was thinking since I put in the address and had the correct words with an incorrect order that by running this "test" it would give me the correct order, but it did not work, so I am wondering if my command has some errors. Any idea where the command could go wrong or what the issue would be? I tried pasting the command I used, but YT is not letting me paste it in since it thinks it is a website. Thanks again for your help. I sincerely appreciate your help.
Sounds like you have just messed up the process somehow. Given that you already got it working with a demo command, it should be a simple case of swapping the seed words and wallet address for your test wallet and it should work fine.
Good job!!!! My PC is stolen so i need to recover my Metamask wallet. I know 11 word of pass frase but store the last in a different place that not remember. I use the Ethereum blockchain. When i recovery a wallet in metamask i must give only the 12 word and not address. Why your program need address? The address is that init with 0x... or IoTeX or another? I retrieve one address but i dont know if is the prime. Can you help me? Thanks.
BTCRecover uses the address to know that it has found the correct seed. If you don't know your wallet address but we're using Eth, then just use an a address database. (Follow my videos in recovery without an address)
Great video. How would the recovery time be impacted if I would scramble and add several unused tokens (lets say 15 tokens where only I know which 3 are wrong ones) to my backup? Would this tool be forced to run through the full BIP39 wordlist?
Do you have an example of the correct way to use the tokenlist functionality? I have a 12 word seed phrase of which I know the exact position of 5 words as well as a list of remaining words that I know can be used to fill in the remaining 7 words. How could run your program under these conditions to avoid this taking thousands of years to find my seed phrase?
@@CryptoGuide correct but I guess what I was trying to understand what would the correct layout of the tokenlist file be for my scenario. So for example, let's say that I know the words for positions 1,4,10,12 and I know one more word for sure exists in my seed and I have a potential list of possible words. Would my tokenlist be accurate if I were to lay it out like this: + ^1^foo0 knownWord .... full list of possible words knownWord .... full list of possible words + ^4^foo1 knownWord .... full list of possible words knownWord .... full list of possible words knownWord .... full list of possible words knownWord .... full list of possible words knownWord .... full list of possible words + ^10^foo2 knownWord .... full list of possible words + ^12^foo3
@@CryptoGuide There are an additional 10 possible words that I have....is that going to take a lifetime? One of the 10 is a known word, just can't remember the correct position, the other 9 are possibles. That is why I am not sure of what the correct layout of the tokenlist needs to be to handle my case
I ran this on the latest ubuntu LTS 64 core linode just now, and after fixing the RIPEMD160 issue, I'm only getting 127 kP/s. I took a screen shot, but can't post it here. any thoughts? my m1 mac get 180 kP/s with 10 cores
Thanks for great job you done, I have question in recovering seed for legacy bitcoin address of ledger nano s, What is the difference between Legacy BTC Address (First Result) and Legacy BTC Address (Last Result)? Which one should I use for 24 scrambled seed?
They are just different ways of deliberately arranging the token list file so as to find it on the first seed generated or the last. (Given that you already know the correct order) In terms of a 24 word seed, you will just need to put all 24 words in. Do you know the position of any of them or do you have no idea at all? (With the issue being that brute-force descrambling a 24 word seed in a fully random order will take many lifetimes...)
@@CryptoGuidei have 24 words that i guess the location of them is not true and at most 2-3 of them are wrong. i tried to generate a tokenlist with my best guess but seedrecover jump out very soon. i followed tokenlist tutorial in examples and use one of your files named tokenlist.txt to make mine but it`s not working. any idea what`s wrong?
@@CryptoGuide Thank you! I've been running it for the last 16 hours and am starting to realize I may need to look into somehow setting this up on google colab😅 Thank you for a fantastic tool, hopefully i'm able to recover and send a donation. You rock.
Hi thanks for the informative video, in my infinite wisdom probably while drinking several beers I thought it would make sense to rearrange the words. Would it be possible to make a tool that checks in a grid like fasion left to right up and down, I know my first word or possible a word that fits in somewhere else in the grid randomly other than that it will read left to right and then go up or down or top to bottom left to right this would make it simpler to solve a 24 seed phrase in my case is something like that possible?
What does this even mean? Are you saying that you arranged the words in some specific pattern? Basically the math means that descrambling a 24 word seed is impractical unless you have some idea what you did so as to dramatically narrow the search.
@@CryptoGuide well I would have most likely worked left to right or right to left in the grid so it can try less combinations if assumed that certain words should follow others and randomly place a marked word in between the rest of the words, as I left certain clues. Also as I have been attempting to recover my ledger wallet on a Coinomi wallet as it's easier to input that will still be valid right? Sorry for the newb questions
I see. You could probably use a tokenlist to do what you describe. Coinomi is fine to use to check whether the seed of you are happy with the security compromise.
Not really, just follow a few on some different ways to use tokenlist for password recovery and also read the documentation. If you are totally stuck you can request a paid private session. They are $100 USD for an hour over zoom/Skype. (Full details, terms and request form are here: cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/) If you want to use our paid services (either private session or trusted recovery), you can fill out the form here and we can find a time forms.office.com/r/KEypP0FRvN
Hello, thank you for this fantastic software but I saw that the maximum number of words that I can enter in the search field is 25. Is it possible to increase this number?
@@CryptoGuide Unfortunately, before he passed away, my father only left us with six words of his seed phrase, and we don't even know what his public address is. That's why we are desperately trying to recover our funds. Do you think we can succeed?
Probably not without finding more of the words. (It's not a question of software, just math...) Do you have any idea what wallet software was being used? (And what the length of seed is that you are looking for?)
Yea unfortunately this isn't really practical right now and likely won't be for at least a decade. (Just based on the math involved) Best bet is to hold on to everything and try again in 10-20 years years, as increased computing power might bring it within the realm of possibility.
Hey Crypto Guide! I have a 24 seed word, where i know all 24 words, and i know the order of the first 12, but not the last 12. I can't figure out the right setup to use this within the tool. Can you please guide me on how to solve this? i.e. How do i structure the token list, what command line to i use etc. Thanks in advance!
Sounds like a straightforward recovery. It's basically the same as what is covered here: btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2022-04-02_Seed_Tokenlist_TokenBlocks/example_seed_tokenlist_tokenblocks/
Thanks for covering this topic, and actually responding to questions. I really appreciate it. Does btc recover use the old electrum wordlist? If so, do I make the type electrum 1? Also, what is the derivation path for electrum 1. I can't seem to find this page you're using in this video on github.
BTCRecover does support the old electrum 1 wordlist for both 12 and 13 word seeds. (Yes, they were 13 words long at one point) You don't need to worry about specifying a derivation path for Electrum 1 wallets, as Electrum wallets only use one of two possible derivation paths. (And the 2nd only became relevant recently with segwit wallets)
Hello I have a 9 word seed list that is scrambled up and i am missing 3 words is there a command or anything i could do to retrieve my wallet ,even if it takes time ? I have a metamask wallet/Ethereum Thank you 🙏
Not really, basically you either need to find the order of the 9 words and then brute-force the missing three, or find all of the words and then brute-force the order. Basically the situation you are describing would take about 1000 years to solve, so you need to either find some more words or get the order of at least some of it in order for it to become practical. (This is a math issue, not a software issue)
Metamask just uses standard BIP39 seeds so yea will sort them out without any issue using the Eth example I do in the video (Metamask use the same derivation path as in the video)
Hello. Sorry, I have a lot of Bitcoins in my Electrum wallet in 2011. But because my laptop was lost, I forgot the 12-word information. Please help me. I am in a bad financial situation now.
Thanks for making this program user friendly. I guess it is the instructions. My computers are churning away as I write this. Instead of dividing the workload between them I have them working on two versions of the token list. I wonder if this is wise.
Many years have passed, and I used the 12 mnemonics I remembered to start the program correctly. But in the end, no results were generated, seed no found. I am using imtoken, TRON-related USDT. If you see this message, I would like to know if the program can be adapted to my situation. If not, how should I solve this problem?I would be very grateful if you could answer my questions.
@CryptoGuide hello again i have a question if i don't know any of the words when the code says seed found how do i know which words are in the seed and in which order ?
If you don't have any seed words then your wallet is unrecoverable. When BTCRecover is run and finds a seed, then it will give you the full seed words, in order.
BTCRecover now has GPU acceleration for more wallets than before, so you can use a GPU to speed up descrambling to be able to do things like a 12 word seed in one hour as opposed to ~5. Descrambling longer seeds, especially 24 word ones is still impractical.
Great video! What happens if you don't know or don't remember the blockchain address of the wallet and the words are scrambled? Will BTCRecover still be able to recover it? - the reason I ask this is because I swap the order of some words before safely storing my seed phrase, as one dumb layer of protection. Is it likely that someone finding just the piece of paper with the 12 words will be able to sort the words correctly even without knowing any wallet address?
@@CryptoGuide please how do I do that? Also how I can format the token list to try the words that I have. I have already fixed 6 of the words that I know and there positions
Just select the wallet type either in the graphical interface or in the command line. Just follow my videos on basic seed recovery and it's all the same.
@@Hammed_Bola Just follow the written usage example for descrambling at btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ and it shows you how to add positional anchors to those whose position is known.
Great video. My 12-word crypto seed phrase won't work, and I was sure that I wrote down the exact words in the correct order. What's the easiest way for me to check with your tools if my 12-words are in the right order please, I'm not at all techy. Many thanks
I have a bip39 with 24 words. How would the setup look like if i know all the words but am only sure of the position of like the 12 words in the middle but not the first 6 and last 6? I don't really know Python
Basically you just need to anchor the words you know like in the example here. btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/ it will also be faster if you group them together. If you are totally stuck you can request a paid private session. They are $100 USD for an hour over zoom/Skype. (Full details, terms and request form are here: cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/) If you want to use our paid services (either private session or trusted recovery), you can fill out the form here and we can find a time forms.office.com/r/KEypP0FRvN
@@CryptoGuide Hello again, I ran the code for an Ethereum address and after about 450million combinations it didn't find the phrases. I've tried it a number of times, can I do something about it?
You are probably just messing something else up. Have you tried generating a test wallet using the same wallet software that you used and checked whether you can get it to work correctly?
@@CryptoGuide I'm not sure how to do that. I tried running the combination for a wallet I already have the passphrase to to test if I can get it but still came out empty
Question when recovering an ethereum wallet: I know a few words including the 12th/checksum word. Does btcrecover check if the the checksum is valid? aka. it will check less permutations/take less time?
A text version of the usage example is here btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/ Any BTC tips can be sent here 37hiiSB1Poj6Shs8WawPS2HjT2jzHkFSQi
in this video in one of the examples you use a word list from [./docs/usage_examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/fixedwords_bip39.txt] my question is can you use any word list or make your own list to have the program run against? and does it need to be installed or can it be just a path to the file? thank you for your time
hey how do we handle the case for 1 incorrect and 1 scrambled word? i could make the command search for either one or the other, but not both, help appreciated!
hey i have the trezor 1 and i just got the cold card from coinkite i would like to transfer BTC to cold card from trezor1 but im of course a noob and so confused. What SD card should I put into my cold card so it will recognize it without issue is just "SanDisk Ultra 32GB MicroSDHC UHS-I Card with Adapter - 98MB/s U1 A1 - SDSQUAR-032G-GN6MA" from amazon okay?
I am using it with a similar 64GB card, so that should be fine. It doesn't need much space to move transactions back and forward. In terms of moving stuff over, you will probably want to use the ColdCard to generate a new seed. You will then need to go through the menus on the Coldcard and save a wallet file that you will use with Electrum, that will then give you addresses that you can use to receive with the coldcard. (You can follow the docco here: coldcardwallet.com/docs/quick)
Crypto Guide I just formatted my laptop SSD for renewing windows and my wallet gone... the second option i thinking about is that hopefully i’ll able to recover TRIM enabled ssd to get access to my electrum wallet.dat file from this path : C:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming\Electrum\Wallets\legacy.dat to get access to my wallet dat file and then import it to the electrum... Do you think is it possible to do? thanks for your time... best of regards.
If you were using Electrum and can get the intact wallet file the you can regain access no problem. It probably won't have a .dat extension, Electrum wallets are often just a filename with no extension at all
Hi sir. Where to contact you? I have 24 seed phrase but dont know what is wrong. It didnt push through in trezor one. Would like to ask for service. Thanks
If you are totally stuck you can request a paid private session. They are $100 USD for an hour over zoom/Skype. (Full details, terms and request form are here: cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/) If you want to use our paid services (either private session or trusted recovery), you can fill out the form here and we can find a time forms.office.com/r/KEypP0FRvN
Hey mate, can I use btc recover to recover a wallet with 12 seed phrase when I only know 10 out of 12 words? It would have to brute force the last 2 words.
I don't understand the question. Of course two missing words is possible, you likely just messed up the process. Just start with the usage examples in the written documentation, you can just copy/paste them to see it work.
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Hello all. If I am using seedrecover with a token list for an ethereum address will the program use my gpu? Or does that happen only with btc adresses? Thanks.
Hi I have a wallet3 I have a 12 phrase word, but they're mixed up and. I cannot get to my wallet and the phrase words are mixed, how can I put them right? As my wife lost the paper but had the correct order. But I do have the phrases but mixed.
@@CryptoGuide no not yet its for my wife's account she said she took a screen shoot of it but it was scrambled . so what order never know. As i have spoken to wallet3 as their app would not let is in but they have up dated it know so now we can open it. But now she said am not sure if that the correct one now. If that's the case $71.000 down the drain.
Sounds like a straightforward recovery. If you need private support or want it done in a hurry as a trusted recovery, you can find info and a request form here cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/
There is no rush, so take your time. If you can't work it out, you can just request either a trusted recovery or private session cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/
Someone ask me to do this for them, i understand how to install ithe application thanks to you but not sure where to find that file you place in comandpromt?
So are you talking about a seed phrase or something else? (Seed phrase example that goes with the video is here: btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/)
my case is a little different i have a list of seeds and one of them is correct the amount of seed to try is comparitively low i can do it on my low end pc but not mannually how can i insert the list into this programm? i have the small list because 5 of them are know but 7! is not a manually checkable number please help
yes i have the words but they are just scrambled 5 of them are known in sequence so i was looking on the internet for a programm that may check the seeds for me for a list that i made @@CryptoGuide
So what's stopping you from just using BTCRecover and using positional anchors for the ones where the position is know? It would only a take a few minutes to run...
I have created a seedlist.txt with one possible 12 word solution but when I run --listpass command it gives me the list of possible passphrases but all the words are joined together with no spaces not in the typical passphrase format. I have added each word to a new line followed by a space in the list.
@@CryptoGuide Okay so can you point me in the right direction? I have a Ethereum wallet with a 12 word seedphrase. What do I used to get into it? Can I use the --listpass command on this list?
@@CryptoGuideAwesome thanks! And if I know 2 words are next to each other do I put it down as... Word A , Word B once Or stacked Word A , Word B Word A , Word B
Running Win 10 taskmanager, I noticed While running BTCRecover I noticed that almost 100% effort was being expended by my PC's 8 cores while the GPU did only 2% at most. I followed the instruction on installing BTCR with GPU. Where could I have gone wrong?
Asking here because I've tried everything I got but unseccessfully. I have a 24-words seed for a BTC wallet (I used Electrum to set it up) which are scrambled (only the first few I know the exact order). Is it possible (and if so, how) to tweak the btcrecover tool to restrict the search to just the words i specify?
While it is trivial to descramble a 12 word seed, a 24 word seed is far more complex. When you say you know the exact order of a few, how many do you mean?
@@CryptoGuide I know the order of the first 6 ones. I'm hoping that descramble 18 words it's not an impossible feat.. It's not like there's that much on the wallet but knowing I'll lose it because of extra safety is a hard beat
It would take about 533531 days to descramble 18 words... The realistic limit to descrambling a seed is 15 words which would take three months. (12 words takes an hour) It's worth holding on to the seed as you only need 2000x speed boost to make this do-able, something which might occur at some point in the next few decades years. (A high end 64 core CPU can already do it about 30x faster, or see this: medium.com/@johncantrell97/how-i-checked-over-1-trillion-mnemonics-in-30-hours-to-win-a-bitcoin-635fe051a752) You didn't lose the funds due to extra safety but due to a poor/dangerous backup strategy.... Next time, use a normal seed and a BIP39 passphrase and be sure to have correct backups of both...
Hi thanks for the informative video and finding time to reply to everyone. I am in a similar situation to this guy I scrambled mine but I know they go right to left and I know one starting word is there a tool that could make that possible to recover? Thanks
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It's all here: btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/ Just go with one of the Bitcoin BIP39 examples and substitute the address for your address and the seed words in the tokenlist for your seed words. (And also increase the address generation limit if the address you are using isn't the first address) It's possible that there are also other issues with your seed, so if you are stuck, generate a test wallet first and test with that to make sure you are doing it all correctly.
Hello. The DeFi wallet I use is mobile only. Even the desktop extension requires confirmation on the mobile app. Is it possible to use this software on an iPhone? As an alternative, could I run the wallet app on an android emulator and have the software interact with it on the desktop?
@@CryptoGuide I have a list of 15 words. I know my 12 are there. How do I check this right? That’s my real question. I can’t figure out the command prompts. Sorry for all the questions
Ah riteo, it's just the same as a normal descrambling in terms of the tokenlist, but will need to run for a month or two. Your best bet is to just make a test wallet, add another BIP39 word (so that you have 13) and then get everything working with that. Once that is sorted, you can try it with your real seed.
Hey... I've lost the correct order but I know the first word for order but don't know 11 remaining order of phrase. I've the eth address and btc address both. Is it possible to recover my wallet through given method by yours?
@@CryptoGuideit keeps counting passwords what to do.. I'm just trying first with your example for eth but so far it is only counting only. How much counting?
Depending on which crypto you are using you could use an address database as per here btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Creating_and_Using_AddressDB/
@CryptoGuide I simply cannot get it to work. Has there been an update to this method? Installing Python, Pip and a whole bunch of other hoops is extremely complicated and even when minutely following your guide, I'm stuck. I have 12 (maybe only 11) scrambled seed phrase words and the public key and a wallet with substantial holdings (as in generational wealth) that I cannot access.
No, it all still works as before. Have you followed my video on installing BTCRecover for your platform? If you are totally stuck then there are options for private support and stuff here cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/
My 12 word ethereum seed phrase got tampered i have the 10 words now ,But i dont have the first two words. Also i know the 2nd word ends with do and first words is missing . Can you please help me out
Just use BTCRecover with the 10 words you have, it will find the missing two in a couple of hours. (Just use all the defaults, no extra arguments required)
any way to optimize the --seedlist option? I was trying to descramble with extra words and I thought why not just create a file with only valid seed phrases, thinking it would take less time considering 29 million and 479 are far apart. It's painfully slow on my mac. Any pointers or tips to speed up that process? A new computer? gpu or cpu power? etc... thank you!
Basically you are likely just hitting a bottleneck due to your CPU. BTCRecover already skips hashing seeds without a valid checksum , so gets a large speed boost due to this, whereas your approach of manually thinning them out means that it needs to hash every one. (Meaning that you would see your raw performance which is likely under 5,000kp/s) It shouldn't matter either way, as just letting BTCRecover run with its defaults will only needs hours on any modern CPU. (So you likely spent more time working on your seed list than it would have taken if you just left it)
Hello, I have an electrum 1 wallet seed that exceeds the eta (i.e. days and days rather than minutes). I tested the electrum 2 wallet seed and it only takes minutes (as in this video). What gives?
Hi, can i use BTCRecover to find this ? electrum btc wallet with 2 parts seed (2x12words). 1x12 bip39 having firsts 6 in order and 20 possible words to guess the next 6. 1x12 extrawords of another 20 words list
So if I understand if correctly you have an Electrum seed with a long "extra words" passphrase? In that case, probably not. If you do the math the possibilities for the seed part multiplied by the possible passphrases gives you a search space that is very very large. You need up narrow down your list or at least the number of words in unknown positions for the passphrase part. Did you deposit any funds in to the raw seed without extra words? (To all least narrow down the search space by a factor of 400,000,000)
@@CryptoGuide Sorry i didn't see before posting but you kinda answered that (narrow the list) in the comments of the BTCRecover Install + GPU Acceleration video. Thanks anyway. The real question is about the 2 parts : 1x12bip39 + 1x12custom seed extension that are to get typed in two different windows in electrum interface when trying to add the wallet. Can btcrecover deal with that if i manage to narrow the 2nd list ? I don't even know how to check it but do you mean it could matter if the wallet received any deposit before setting seed extension ?
The "extension words" are just handled like a BIP39 passphrase. While you can run seedrecover.py with a list of passphrases (--passphrase-list argument) you will not have any luck as the pure math of your sitation puts it in the unrecoverable situation. GPU acceleration for checking large numbers of passphrases will come in the next few weeks, but unless you can narrow your possibilities right down, or at least solve the seed part first on it's own. (eg: having some funds that were deposited without extension words) then you are not going to be able to recover this...
@@CryptoGuide Okay so i'm looking for a 24-length seed+passphrase for which i need the seed. If early deposit is true, do i just need to try length-12 seedrecover on the wallet or is there some additionnal setup ? Thanks again
You will need to run seedrecover.py with a list of passphrases (--passphrase-list argument), but you will not have any luck as the pure math of your sitation puts it in the unrecoverable situation.
@@ThePr0digalS0n just follow the guide here, the Eth example is the closest to what you will need. github.com/3rdIteration/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example.md You can probably just leave off the BIP-32 path argument as it searches the common ones by default now
sorry, just want to ask, already try the BTCrecover, but my laptop are just to slow & take a while to process it. i need your help to recover it for me & i'll give you reward if you manage to do it. i have 11 seed word (scrambled) & also need 1 more word to access it. any personal contact so i can talk about it with you? thx 🙏
If need to de-scramble a seed of 12 words for a Daedalus wallet (Cardano). The words are OK but the order of the words is not correct. Is that possible?
It's certainly possible, but the software might need a small modification to make it work. Basically BTCRecover can work with any address that was produced with a wallet that follows standard BIP39/44 address derivation. Basically what you will need is a derivation path that these sorts of wallets (like Coinomi, etc) use so that you can go from seed -> address. The issue is that some of these minor alt-coins don't follow the standards and it looks like ADA falls in to this category. (based on this: docs.cardano.org/cardano-components/cardano-wallet/doc/about-address-derivation) So the bad news is that it looks like it won't work at this time, the good news is that it is probably quite straight-forward if someone from the ADA community wanted to create a pull request on the project Github that would enable ADA users to recover in situations like this. (over at github.com/3rdIteration/btcrecover) For someone familiar with Cardano derivation and python 3 it would be a few hours work tops... Once the ability to use this non-standard derivation is added, it can brute-force descramble any 12 word seed in about an hour.
buenas, es posible recuperar semillas para frase de 24 palabras , si tengo 22 bien y dos dudosas? y que procedimiento debo seguir muchas gracias por el gran trabajo
amazing! im a noob and its working on windows as we speak counting passwords! I followed yr instructions but in cmd.exe i did not have to type 'python' before 'btcrecover'
Good to hear :) Windows must have magically used Python3 to run the file... (Something I haven't seen happen before) Did you download python from python.org or the windows store?
@@CryptoGuide yes python.org . it was a stroke of luck/genius to not type python from cmd at which time your program came to life. but on my old dell laptop it looks to take 20 hours. i have paused it to keep things cool. there is barely 0.5eth in the wallet. so if i find the seed, it will be a privilege to tip ya.
The BEP20 ones just work if you select the eth wallet type. For original Binance chain (starting with bnb1) they are not currently supported, bit it cold be added if you wanted to sponsor it either directly or as a trusted recovery.
You can fill out the form here and we can find a time forms.office.com/r/KEypP0FRvN Sponsorship is normally $500 USD and then you do the recovery yourself. Alternatively it could be done though a trusted recovery where the sponsor fee is covered by the recovery fee. How many of the seeds words do you have?
@@CryptoGuide So I actually know 2 of the positions of the 10 scrambled words and did some research on your github and saw that you can add + ^x^ to let it know the position of a word. With that, would it still take an unrealstic time to uncover? How would I change the code to make it run knowing that 2 words are missing. I keept getting an error saying that it can't find any phrase if I put big-typos
So if you have 2 words where you know their exact position, 8 that are known but with unknown position and two totally unknown it should be doable. Would only take about two weeks to run on a high end PC (Modern i7 with something like a 3070 GPU) Basically for the two words that are totally unknown, the tokenlist will be a row that includes every BIP39 word.
Just follow the examples here btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/ It has an Eth example
@@CryptoGuide i intsall btc recover an every thing but how i actually put the unscramble 12 words in to run so it can give correct order.... i didn't see that part
So the guide is also in text here btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/ Where exactly are you getting stuck?
Hello, no download link on the page out of the link? My problem is, i have the 12 words (95% sure not scrampled) but i cant recover. I dont know how i generate the phrase, wich app.....can you please help?
@@CryptoGuide iam god till min 6. now got a warning about the pip version (20.1.1.) cause i download exact the python version out of your video. is that ok, or should i upgrade?
Hi Sir, I've followed your tutorial but still need your guidance to solve AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'split' in cmd when I tried to recover my wallet using my ethereum address
How do you recover your wallet once you have lost or forgotten your seed phrase? I had to uninstall and reinstall my wallet; but, when I did that, I realized I had not written my seed phrase down anywhere.
Nice video you got here. I hope I can ask you some questions to improve my understanding. 1) What information do you need to recover a scrambled 12 word seedphrase? Only the 12 words? I guess you need the adress too, right? 2) It seems like you also need to know what blockchain you are using, is that correct? 3) Does it also work for a hardware device? Since often you have multiple coins on it if you get your whole hardware device back or only the used adress (in case you have to use one)? 4) How can you find out the correct one? Is it because you use the adress in combination with the 12 words? I mean there sure is more than one seed with these 12 words just in different order, no? 5) How much time would it take to recover 24 words instead? Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
As an additional question which is maybe the most important one. In case somebody gets my seed phrase (stolen for ex.). How can I protect myself such that the seed phrase won't help the thief? I saw your videos, so adding words doesn't help. Scrambling words in the 12 word case doesn't help. Does scrambling help for 24 words? How else can I stay safe? I mean since one should make multiple copies it is more likely that one gets stolen.
1) Just the 12 words, no address required. 2) You do need to know which blockchain to search. 3) Yes, you can recover the seed for the whole device. 4) It checks against either the address provided or a database of every address ever used. 5) Thousands and thousands of years. 6) Use a BIP39 passphrase
@@CryptoGuide Thanks for your replies. So basically 12 words are never safe if one gets the correct 12 words. Answer 5) --> This means scrambling 24 words in a way I can remember is a legit way? Answer 6) --> The 24 words are a BIP39 passphrase, no? They don't keep me safe if someone would get it. Do you mean I should use an extra word as security? Do you have a video about this setup? Many thanks for your help.
Scrambling is a terrible idea and should never be done as a means of security. A BIP39 passphrase is not the same as your seed phrase (or mnemonic). I talk about this more here: th-cam.com/video/53khH9vDw2I/w-d-xo.html
Hey so will this work for me, as I have my 12 seed phrase physically written done for Trust Wallet. I thought it was in the right order but it logs me in but shows a different address from the one I have had since the beginning?
@@CryptoGuide so it's opening a wallet but it's not the address I have with all my transaction as I have that saved to check on BScan so I was assuming it could be jumbled? I only have one Trustwallet wallet so its been confusing enough for me lol
I have a 24 seed. My problem is that I am no longer sure about the words. I have more than 24 words (about 70 words) that could be and also always know the position of them. Is there any way to recover the seed via btcrecover? I would like to have several possible words for each word position. How can I do that with btcrecover?
You can do this with a tokenlist, whether it is possible comes down to the math of it... You will basically need to work out how many possible combinations there are that you need to check and if you end up with a number less than 100 billion then it's do-able in a reasonable timeframe.
It's basically this video here. There is also some stuff in this usage example that would help btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-23_multi_device_descrambling_12_word_seed_with_extras/Example_multi_device_descrambling_12_word_seed_with_extras/
@@CryptoGuide I will try it out. Thanks a lot! Should I then enter all variants, e.g. for the first word, one after the other into the list like this: + ^1^ocean + ^1^blue and so on?
Depending on how complex your token file is it will sit there for a few minutes at the start. (As I haven't added a "working" sort of dialogue or status indicator in the pre-start phase yet, there is an open github issue for it)
@@CryptoGuide i have 198 words in my tokenlist to recover 12words bip39 wallet. All of them i set with positioning ^1^ till ^12^ infront of those words, because i still remember the position. i tried run with 159 words in tokenlist its working fine, but when i load 198 words tokenlist then it just freeze there after the "workgroup size" message. i also tried 198words without positioning then its able to run but i know without the position it would be alot of posibility to test. so i need it with position
If it doesn't crash it will likely run if you just leave it for a while. That is a lot of words to be missing, what exactly are you trying to do? (In terms of how many words you have, how many you are trying to find, etc)
If you are totally stuck you can request a paid private session. They are $100 USD for an hour over zoom/Skype. (Full details, terms and request form are here: cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/)
@@CryptoGuide If I create a wallet without manual seed input as shown in the video with 12 seed everything works, if I create a wallet with 12 seed and manual seed input it does not determine the correct order, as I understand the manually entered seed I am 13 known seed and in txt I assigning it ^ 13 ^ qwerty. I do not need to unlock the wallet, I am interested in how it works.
@@CryptoGuide I reviewed the video, you only use an enumeration of an unknown sedd combination, I did not see the addition of a well-known passphrase in it. I changed the txt file of the known seed 2 elements from 12 places to the rest indicated that they are true for instant execution of the script. I added --passphrase to the script, now, when executing the script, I need to enter a passphrase that I know and it is true, it is comparing 2 words out of 12 and still cannot find the correct combination. If the wallet is created without using a passphrase, then everything works fine. I want to say that when creating an empty Electrum wallet with 12 seed phrases and using a passphrase, seed sorting does not work.
Hey, can i use this method to recover tron? i have the 12 seed words but keep getting an error. I know it was written down correctly and in the correct order?
In this case if you don't also have a working install of that wallet then you cannot recover your funds. If all you have is an address then you have nothing, I'm sorry for your loss.
So are you saying that you have 11 of the 12 words, but are sure if location of at least 2? If that is the case you could certainly brute force that within a couple of days.
Hey there, I never recieved my 12 seed phrase when creating my coinbase wallet. It allowed me to "save and do later" which never happened. STUPID ME! I was using FACE ID to sign in for months, I was randomly kicked off the app due to an update and I haven't been able to access since I don't have the 12 seed phrase....Any ideas how to pull the data from my phone if possible or what data I would search for? Thanks,
No program can do this, it's basic math... Unless you have either a working wallet or a working backup, an address doesn't help you at access the funds in any way.
@@CryptoGuide understood. Is there anyway I can dig through my phones data to find what the phone was using during the time it was logging in using biometrics? Thanks
Hello I am still trying to unscramble the exodus wallet. Are you positive btcrecover supports exodus? I have tried most of the commands on the page but I was pretty sure it was the lite pin/ native segwit one but my test phrase still isn’t being found when I run the program. Please tell me what I should be running this is taking so long and I think I have all the words Just need this to work
python3 seedrecover.py --no-dupchecks --mnemonic-length 12 --language EN --dsw --wallet-type BIP39 --addr-limit 1 --addrs bc1qf9vl92tyewez60wk5wcx9ysvuqanpfvdrw0pas --tokenlist ./docs/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/randomcombination_bip39.txt --bip32-path "m/84'/0'/0'/0" is what I am currently testing. I have tried so many combos and none have worked.
Just start with the unmodified example and adjust from there. In terms of Exodus, it just follows BIP39 so works fine, so just do a standard recovery (something like one missing word) for your test wallet and adjust from there.
It depends, Atomic wallet doesn't follow standards meaning its seed backups are worthless for some cryptos when it comes to other wallets or recovery... It comes down to which cryptos you had in it, what were you storing?
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Alternatively, if you prefer a 100% Open Source wallet, a Trezor One is also a great value wallet shop.trezor.io/product/trezor-one-white?offer_id=14&aff_id=2922&source=TH-cam
You need to make a new comment thread if you want replies, TH-cam doesn't notify me properly for any replies where the original comment is over a month old. (So I won't see any replies you make to this comment and it was a fluke that I noticed this one)
@@CryptoGuide Please check my reaction
So i went on the link on to the token list section but idk what to do from there, i saw that you recovered a seed phrase from there but i dont know how to do it or what token list to use
Do i have to change the adress and tokenlist within the command prompt or do i look for a token list thats has the word phase like mines?
@@CryptoGuide hello please I do need ur help
hey crypto guide!
i appreiciate your efforts to teach all of this stuff on youtube. I have a question would you please answer me - I ran the same program for bitcoin standard bip39 wallet with tokenlist but it gave me counting passwords more than 12 factorial that is more than 476 million and it is going on above. do you know what is the problem here?
Sounds like you had more than 12 lines in your tokenlist file.
Just start with the usage examples in the written documentation and edit from the if you are having trouble.
Thank you so much! IT worked. I had noted one word wrong!!! I will donate If Ethereum hits 2k!!!!!!!
Good job getting it sorted. Feel free to direct any Eth tips to 0x72343f2806428dbbc2C11a83A1844912184b4243 to support ongoing work on the project. (1% of funds recovered is my standard suggestion makes it easy to work out, regardless of the fiat price)
Hope I will never need to use it but let me say you are a genius!
Thanks :)
I got a question,that is complex,If scrambled 12 Word Seeds ,meanwhile lost a word and do not know the wallet address, how to use the tool, looking forward to your response,THX😀
Missing a word greatly increases the complexity to the point that it will take months, so depending on the wallet value, is may not be worth it.
Missing an address is no problem if it's for a coin/chain where you can use an address database.
@@CryptoGuide yep,Yes, I am currently using the latest database file you shared, but due to a missing word and out of order, I don't know how to add those parameters. I have tested several times and have failed
@@CryptoGuide I wrote a script myself to generate 2048 mnemonic words (fill in the forgotten word) in a txt document, and then processed it in batches. However, the order seems to be out of order, and I am quite frustrated with how to attach parameters to achieve the desired effect
So are you saying that you know the correct position of some of the words?
@@CryptoGuide yep,I know the position. But don’t know how to use the seedrecover script‘s args correctly.
Hello @Crypto Guide. I Currently editing my token list to scramble the last 12 words in my seed phrase for 24 words seed recovery. Can you please tell me if I did this correct?
1. in my token list I placed ^1^ word 1 etc. until word 12 in the positional and required anchors
2. the remaining 12 words are scrambled and place on separate line
now with the argument functions in python seed recovery do I change the "--mnemonic-length 12" to "--mnemonic-length 24" seeing that its a 24 word seed phrase or I do not change the length to match the amount of words? Thanks alot for your great help. You are number 1.
I'm thinking if I choose length 24 to search for scrambling 12 words only out of 24 words the script may search for "up to 24 mistakes, 24 of which can be an entirely different seed word" and actually its only 12 words need to scrambled. Please advise. Thanks again
This is normal when using a tokenlist where every word comes from the tokenlist... Other than that it sounds like you are on the right track.
Could you do a video explaining derivation paths and how they work.
Sure, is there a specific wallet, crypto or usage scenario you want more detail for?
I need my 12 phrase loss
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Hello!
Thanks for te excelent tool!!!
I have a question.
I have my 12-seeds
But ive realised that i have one duplicated word. Is there Any command to tell the script that try combination only swapping that duplicated word??
Firstly, duplicate words are valid, so unless it says the seed is invalid, it might not have a problem. If it's just a single word, just run the defaults and it will find it very quickly, there is no point narrowing it down...
Thanks for this guide. Very helpful. I am not a programmer or computer expert, so please pardon my ignorance. Does running this Btcrecover command "hurt" the computer at all, as in using up all the memory or something else that could damage an ordinary computer?
It doesn't do anything harmful, though it will max out the CPU continuously, so your system will get quite warm. (And may crash if you don't have sufficient cooling)
Got it. Thanks! So it will not affect memory/storage?
@@CryptoGuide
No
@@CryptoGuide Thanks. I really appreciate your help. I ran the command with your example ETH wallet command and the BTC recover was able to give me the correct order for the wallet in your example. I then tried it on my own and was not successful. I wanted to test I was doing things correctly by creating a new ETH wallet with 12 words. I mixed up the order of the 12 words and ran the command.
After 11 hours of running the command, I got the "Seed not found, sorry" message. I was thinking since I put in the address and had the correct words with an incorrect order that by running this "test" it would give me the correct order, but it did not work, so I am wondering if my command has some errors. Any idea where the command could go wrong or what the issue would be? I tried pasting the command I used, but YT is not letting me paste it in since it thinks it is a website. Thanks again for your help. I sincerely appreciate your help.
Sounds like you have just messed up the process somehow.
Given that you already got it working with a demo command, it should be a simple case of swapping the seed words and wallet address for your test wallet and it should work fine.
Good job!!!! My PC is stolen so i need to recover my Metamask wallet. I know 11 word of pass frase but store the last in a different place that not remember. I use the Ethereum blockchain. When i recovery a wallet in metamask i must give only the 12 word and not address. Why your program need address? The address is that init with 0x... or IoTeX or another? I retrieve one address but i dont know if is the prime. Can you help me? Thanks.
BTCRecover uses the address to know that it has found the correct seed.
If you don't know your wallet address but we're using Eth, then just use an a address database. (Follow my videos in recovery without an address)
@@CryptoGuide Thank you. I've found the address. It init with 0x but in your sample ther are not this string type. Must i change the coding?
Well yea you just need to follow the documentation for Eth wallet types
What about if you got a 100 words you need to unscramble to find the 12 correct words in the correct order? can it be done?
No, that'st too many if the 12 world aren't in the right order within the 100. This is just a math issue.
Great video. How would the recovery time be impacted if I would scramble and add several unused tokens (lets say 15 tokens where only I know which 3 are wrong ones) to my backup? Would this tool be forced to run through the full BIP39 wordlist?
No, it wouldn't need to check the full word list and could solve it within 3 weeks. Just add a BIP39 passphrase if you want to secure your backup.
Do you have an example of the correct way to use the tokenlist functionality? I have a 12 word seed phrase of which I know the exact position of 5 words as well as a list of remaining words that I know can be used to fill in the remaining 7 words. How could run your program under these conditions to avoid this taking thousands of years to find my seed phrase?
That's exactly what this video covers...
@@CryptoGuide correct but I guess what I was trying to understand what would the correct layout of the tokenlist file be for my scenario. So for example, let's say that I know the words for positions 1,4,10,12 and I know one more word for sure exists in my seed and I have a potential list of possible words. Would my tokenlist be accurate if I were to lay it out like this:
+ ^1^foo0
knownWord .... full list of possible words
knownWord .... full list of possible words
+ ^4^foo1
knownWord .... full list of possible words
knownWord .... full list of possible words
knownWord .... full list of possible words
knownWord .... full list of possible words
knownWord .... full list of possible words
+ ^10^foo2
knownWord .... full list of possible words
+ ^12^foo3
No, you would put each possible word on its own row.
How long is your "list of possible words" anyway?
@@CryptoGuide There are an additional 10 possible words that I have....is that going to take a lifetime? One of the 10 is a known word, just can't remember the correct position, the other 9 are possibles. That is why I am not sure of what the correct layout of the tokenlist needs to be to handle my case
So you saying that you have 4 fully known with position and 10 possible words for the remaining 8 positions? Should be straightforward
I ran this on the latest ubuntu LTS 64 core linode just now, and after fixing the RIPEMD160 issue, I'm only getting 127 kP/s. I took a screen shot, but can't post it here. any thoughts? my m1 mac get 180 kP/s with 10 cores
Depends on the seed length, recovery type, wallet type and single core performance.
Thanks for great job you done,
I have question in recovering seed for legacy bitcoin address of ledger nano s,
What is the difference between Legacy BTC Address (First Result) and Legacy BTC Address (Last Result)?
Which one should I use for 24 scrambled seed?
They are just different ways of deliberately arranging the token list file so as to find it on the first seed generated or the last. (Given that you already know the correct order)
In terms of a 24 word seed, you will just need to put all 24 words in. Do you know the position of any of them or do you have no idea at all? (With the issue being that brute-force descrambling a 24 word seed in a fully random order will take many lifetimes...)
@@CryptoGuidei have 24 words that i guess the location of them is not true and at most 2-3 of them are wrong.
i tried to generate a tokenlist with my best guess but seedrecover jump out very soon.
i followed tokenlist tutorial in examples and use one of your files named tokenlist.txt to make mine but it`s not working.
any idea what`s wrong?
Are you getting specific error messages?
Do you by chance know what the command would be for a tezos wallet ? currently trying to descramble a 12 word phrase. Thanks!
Same process, just specify wallet type as tezos
@@CryptoGuide Thank you! I've been running it for the last 16 hours and am starting to realize I may need to look into somehow setting this up on google colab😅
Thank you for a fantastic tool, hopefully i'm able to recover and send a donation. You rock.
A simple 12 word seed descrambling should only take a few hours, but if you have a slower CPU it could take much longer...
Crypto Guide initial txt file I was using may have been messaged up, trying again right now. Using an m1 air, with python3.9
32.51 kP/s though! Zippier than expected for a device with no fans… hahah
Hi thanks for the informative video, in my infinite wisdom probably while drinking several beers I thought it would make sense to rearrange the words. Would it be possible to make a tool that checks in a grid like fasion left to right up and down, I know my first word or possible a word that fits in somewhere else in the grid randomly other than that it will read left to right and then go up or down or top to bottom left to right this would make it simpler to solve a 24 seed phrase in my case is something like that possible?
What does this even mean? Are you saying that you arranged the words in some specific pattern?
Basically the math means that descrambling a 24 word seed is impractical unless you have some idea what you did so as to dramatically narrow the search.
@@CryptoGuide well I would have most likely worked left to right or right to left in the grid so it can try less combinations if assumed that certain words should follow others and randomly place a marked word in between the rest of the words, as I left certain clues. Also as I have been attempting to recover my ledger wallet on a Coinomi wallet as it's easier to input that will still be valid right? Sorry for the newb questions
I see.
You could probably use a tokenlist to do what you describe.
Coinomi is fine to use to check whether the seed of you are happy with the security compromise.
@@CryptoGuide no idea what that is, there a tutorial for that sort of thing, is it using your recovery tool?
Not really, just follow a few on some different ways to use tokenlist for password recovery and also read the documentation.
If you are totally stuck you can request a paid private session. They are $100 USD for an hour over zoom/Skype. (Full details, terms and request form are here: cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/)
If you want to use our paid services (either private session or trusted recovery), you can fill out the form here and we can find a time forms.office.com/r/KEypP0FRvN
Is there a video only about how to set up the token list.
It's covered in this video as well as all the other password and passphrase videos.
Which part of the token list instruction explains how to set up the 12 words if you just dont know the correct order
This video covers exactly that... Just watch it again...
@@CryptoGuide I am lost, can we do the $100 the hour so you can walk me through
You just request it here cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/
Hello, thank you for this fantastic software but I saw that the maximum number of words that I can enter in the search field is 25. Is it possible to increase this number?
Your question doesn't make sense... What are you trying to do?
@@CryptoGuide Unfortunately, before he passed away, my father only left us with six words of his seed phrase, and we don't even know what his public address is. That's why we are desperately trying to recover our funds. Do you think we can succeed?
Probably not without finding more of the words. (It's not a question of software, just math...) Do you have any idea what wallet software was being used? (And what the length of seed is that you are looking for?)
@@CryptoGuide My father had bitcoin in 2011 and his seed phrase was 12 words (BIP39).
Our brother had the other 6 words but unfortunately he died too.
Yea unfortunately this isn't really practical right now and likely won't be for at least a decade. (Just based on the math involved) Best bet is to hold on to everything and try again in 10-20 years years, as increased computing power might bring it within the realm of possibility.
Hey Crypto Guide!
I have a 24 seed word, where i know all 24 words, and i know the order of the first 12, but not the last 12. I can't figure out the right setup to use this within the tool. Can you please guide me on how to solve this? i.e. How do i structure the token list, what command line to i use etc. Thanks in advance!
Sounds like a straightforward recovery. It's basically the same as what is covered here: btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2022-04-02_Seed_Tokenlist_TokenBlocks/example_seed_tokenlist_tokenblocks/
Thanks for covering this topic, and actually responding to questions. I really appreciate it. Does btc recover use the old electrum wordlist? If so, do I make the type electrum 1? Also, what is the derivation path for electrum 1. I can't seem to find this page you're using in this video on github.
BTCRecover does support the old electrum 1 wordlist for both 12 and 13 word seeds. (Yes, they were 13 words long at one point) You don't need to worry about specifying a derivation path for Electrum 1 wallets, as Electrum wallets only use one of two possible derivation paths. (And the 2nd only became relevant recently with segwit wallets)
Hello
I have a 9 word seed list that is scrambled up and i am missing 3 words is there a command or anything i could do to retrieve my wallet ,even if it takes time ? I have a metamask wallet/Ethereum
Thank you 🙏
Not really, basically you either need to find the order of the 9 words and then brute-force the missing three, or find all of the words and then brute-force the order.
Basically the situation you are describing would take about 1000 years to solve, so you need to either find some more words or get the order of at least some of it in order for it to become practical. (This is a math issue, not a software issue)
thanks.. does it include Metamask?
Metamask just uses standard BIP39 seeds so yea will sort them out without any issue using the Eth example I do in the video (Metamask use the same derivation path as in the video)
Hello. Sorry, I have a lot of Bitcoins in my Electrum wallet in 2011. But because my laptop was lost, I forgot the 12-word information. Please help me. I am in a bad financial situation now.
If you lost both the wallet file and the recovery phrase then unfortunately you have caused an unrecoverable loss.
@CryptoGuide I have the wallet and transaction address. Is it possible for me to find the 12 words with your help?
When you say you have the wallet, what does this mean? Do you mean you have the Electrum wallet file?
Thanks for making this program user friendly. I guess it is the instructions.
My computers are churning away as I write this.
Instead of dividing the workload between them I have them working on two versions of the token list.
I wonder if this is wise.
Splitting up that way is fine. :)
Great. Knowledge is power.
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Many years have passed, and I used the 12 mnemonics I remembered to start the program correctly. But in the end, no results were generated, seed no found. I am using imtoken, TRON-related USDT. If you see this message, I would like to know if the program can be adapted to my situation. If not, how should I solve this problem?I would be very grateful if you could answer my questions.
BTCRecover works fine with Tron. If it didn't find a seed then you likely have some other issue with the seed.
@CryptoGuide hello again i have a question if i don't know any of the words when the code says seed found how do i know which words are in the seed and in which order ?
If you don't have any seed words then your wallet is unrecoverable.
When BTCRecover is run and finds a seed, then it will give you the full seed words, in order.
r u using geforce to speed up performance? if yes then what kind do you use? or recommend us if possible
BTCRecover now has GPU acceleration for more wallets than before, so you can use a GPU to speed up descrambling to be able to do things like a 12 word seed in one hour as opposed to ~5.
Descrambling longer seeds, especially 24 word ones is still impractical.
The addressDB should enter it in command prompt before enter tokenlist or after
The order of the arguments doesn't matter.
Great video! What happens if you don't know or don't remember the blockchain address of the wallet and the words are scrambled? Will BTCRecover still be able to recover it? - the reason I ask this is because I swap the order of some words before safely storing my seed phrase, as one dumb layer of protection. Is it likely that someone finding just the piece of paper with the 12 words will be able to sort the words correctly even without knowing any wallet address?
You can just use an AddressDB if you don't know the address, it's no problem at all. Any 12 word seed will descramble just fine.
@@CryptoGuide So I guess my security "algorithm" of swapping two words of my seed phrase offers very little security after all.
If it's a 12 word seed or offers exactly zero extra protection, it can be brute-forced in an hour with GPU acceleration.
How do you know your derivation path?
The coin in the wallet is ethereum so what derivation path can I use?
Just select Ethereum as the wallet type and it will check the common derivation paths by default
@@CryptoGuide please how do I do that?
Also how I can format the token list to try the words that I have.
I have already fixed 6 of the words that I know and there positions
Just select the wallet type either in the graphical interface or in the command line. Just follow my videos on basic seed recovery and it's all the same.
@@Hammed_Bola Just follow the written usage example for descrambling at btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ and it shows you how to add positional anchors to those whose position is known.
@@CryptoGuide I'm sorry please can you link the video please.
Great video. My 12-word crypto seed phrase won't work, and I was sure that I wrote down the exact words in the correct order. What's the easiest way for me to check with your tools if my 12-words are in the right order please, I'm not at all techy. Many thanks
Just follow my video on basic BTCRecover recovery when you have an invalid mnemonic.
What will be maximum time did the script to descramble the seed phrase
Depends on your CPU/GPU and the seed type, but generally a few hours.
I have a bip39 with 24 words. How would the setup look like if i know all the words but am only sure of the position of like the 12 words in the middle but not the first 6 and last 6?
I don't really know Python
I also know my eth address that i use on metamask connected with the bip39 cold wallet
Basically you just need to anchor the words you know like in the example here. btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/ it will also be faster if you group them together.
If you are totally stuck you can request a paid private session. They are $100 USD for an hour over zoom/Skype. (Full details, terms and request form are here: cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/)
If you want to use our paid services (either private session or trusted recovery), you can fill out the form here and we can find a time forms.office.com/r/KEypP0FRvN
Hello
I want to do the same but for a BNB address. What changes do i need to apply for it to work?
If it's just binance smart chain then you just select Ethereum wallet type.
@@CryptoGuide Hello again, I ran the code for an Ethereum address and after about 450million combinations it didn't find the phrases. I've tried it a number of times, can I do something about it?
You are probably just messing something else up. Have you tried generating a test wallet using the same wallet software that you used and checked whether you can get it to work correctly?
@@CryptoGuide I'm not sure how to do that. I tried running the combination for a wallet I already have the passphrase to to test if I can get it but still came out empty
Bummer.
If you are stuck then you can always give trusted recovery a go cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/
Question when recovering an ethereum wallet: I know a few words including the 12th/checksum word. Does btcrecover check if the the checksum is valid? aka. it will check less permutations/take less time?
Yes it does, this is precisely why 24 word seeds are checked much faster than 12 word seeds. (Due to the longer seed having a much stronger checksum)
@@CryptoGuide right, that makes alot of sense now. thanks for the lightning fast answer! I'll make sure to send you some eth when recovered :)
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Okay everything done! but how do i enter the 12 word phrase in the command prompt to recover my correct order of my 12 word seed
Watch the video... If you are descrambling then the seed is entered via a tokenlist file.
@@CryptoGuide so add token file then put seed to run then.. aiite fine send your btc address
A text version of the usage example is here btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/
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in this video in one of the examples you use a word list from [./docs/usage_examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/fixedwords_bip39.txt] my question is can you use any word list or make your own list to have the program run against? and does it need to be installed or can it be just a path to the file? thank you for your time
Only BIP39 words, all others will have an invalid checksum and be skipped.
hey how do we handle the case for 1 incorrect and 1 scrambled word? i could make the command search for either one or the other, but not both, help appreciated!
If you are saying that there are just two words wrong in total, then the defaults will solve this just fine.
hey i have the trezor 1 and i just got the cold card from coinkite i would like to transfer BTC to cold card from trezor1 but im of course a noob and so confused. What SD card should I put into my cold card so it will recognize it without issue is just "SanDisk Ultra 32GB MicroSDHC UHS-I Card with Adapter - 98MB/s U1 A1 - SDSQUAR-032G-GN6MA" from amazon okay?
I am using it with a similar 64GB card, so that should be fine. It doesn't need much space to move transactions back and forward.
In terms of moving stuff over, you will probably want to use the ColdCard to generate a new seed. You will then need to go through the menus on the Coldcard and save a wallet file that you will use with Electrum, that will then give you addresses that you can use to receive with the coldcard. (You can follow the docco here: coldcardwallet.com/docs/quick)
@@CryptoGuide omg lol thank you for replying to my embarrassing comment! ill check that out! also great channel!
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Thanks for your great videos.
Is it possible to recover whole 12 words...
i just lost my seed and have no idea about any of the words at all.
Unfortunately not, you can only realistically have lost 3 words and still be able to recover.
Crypto Guide I just formatted my laptop SSD for renewing windows and my wallet gone...
the second option i thinking about is that hopefully i’ll able to recover TRIM enabled ssd to get access to my electrum wallet.dat file from this path :
C:\Users\admin\AppData\Roaming\Electrum\Wallets\legacy.dat
to get access to my wallet dat file and then import it to the electrum...
Do you think is it possible to do?
thanks for your time...
best of regards.
If you were using Electrum and can get the intact wallet file the you can regain access no problem. It probably won't have a .dat extension, Electrum wallets are often just a filename with no extension at all
Hi sir. Where to contact you? I have 24 seed phrase but dont know what is wrong. It didnt push through in trezor one. Would like to ask for service. Thanks
If you are totally stuck you can request a paid private session. They are $100 USD for an hour over zoom/Skype. (Full details, terms and request form are here: cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/)
If you want to use our paid services (either private session or trusted recovery), you can fill out the form here and we can find a time forms.office.com/r/KEypP0FRvN
Hey mate, can I use btc recover to recover a wallet with 12 seed phrase when I only know 10 out of 12 words? It would have to brute force the last 2 words.
Yep, that is a very straightforward recovery
@@CryptoGuide I tried one from your other video but it didnt find any seed phrase, is it possible?
I don't understand the question. Of course two missing words is possible, you likely just messed up the process.
Just start with the usage examples in the written documentation, you can just copy/paste them to see it work.
Not sure if I understand any of this !but thanks I'm hanging issue with trust wallet not Ethereum or Bitcoin
So what's your actual issue?
@@CryptoGuide trust wallet and yes have gotten the missing words thanks.
Hey success t, good to hear, feel free to shoot me a tip at www.reddit.com/user/Crypto-Guide/comments/czy13u/a_post_or_video_of_mine_was_helpful_feel_free_to/ :)
Hello all.
If I am using seedrecover with a token list for an ethereum address will the program use my gpu?
Or does that happen only with btc adresses?
Thanks.
Works on most BIP39 type wallets just fine, see here: btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/GPU_Acceleration/
@@CryptoGuide thanks. I had missed that page.
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Hi I have a wallet3 I have a 12 phrase word, but they're mixed up and. I cannot get to my wallet and the phrase words are mixed, how can I put them right? As my wife lost the paper but had the correct order. But I do have the phrases but mixed.
That's exactly what this video covers, have you tried the process here?
@@CryptoGuide no not yet its for my wife's account she said she took a screen shoot of it but it was scrambled . so what order never know. As i have spoken to wallet3 as their app would not let is in but they have up dated it know so now we can open it. But now she said am not sure if that the correct one now. If that's the case $71.000 down the drain.
Sounds like a straightforward recovery. If you need private support or want it done in a hurry as a trusted recovery, you can find info and a request form here cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/
@@CryptoGuide you are such a good help. Is that I'm not very technical minded? When you start talking. I'm in another world. Hahaha
There is no rush, so take your time. If you can't work it out, you can just request either a trusted recovery or private session cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/
Someone ask me to do this for them, i understand how to install ithe application thanks to you but not sure where to find that file you place in comandpromt?
The tokenlist can go anywhere, the path and filename are just passed as an argument
@@CryptoGuide the person just wants to recover the scramble digits
Is there a file or comand to do that?
So are you talking about a seed phrase or something else? (Seed phrase example that goes with the video is here: btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/)
@@CryptoGuide yea
my case is a little different i have a list of seeds and one of them is correct the amount of seed to try is comparitively low i can do it on my low end pc but not mannually how can i insert the list into this programm?
i have the small list because 5 of them are know but 7! is not a manually checkable number please help
I don't understand the question. Do you have all of the seed words? (And are just missing the position of some?)
yes
i have the words but they are just scrambled 5 of them are known in sequence
so i was looking on the internet for a programm that may check the seeds for me for a list that i made
@@CryptoGuide
So what's stopping you from just using BTCRecover and using positional anchors for the ones where the position is know? It would only a take a few minutes to run...
Great video. My Zilpay seed won't work and I am sure I wrote the exact names down. Am I able to pay you for the service to recover
What were you using to interface with this? Zillet, Ledger?
I have created a seedlist.txt with one possible 12 word solution but when I run --listpass command it gives me the list of possible passphrases but all the words are joined together with no spaces not in the typical passphrase format. I have added each word to a new line followed by a space in the list.
Sounds like you are confusing the process for passphrase recovery with that of seed recovery.
@@CryptoGuide Okay so can you point me in the right direction? I have a Ethereum wallet with a 12 word seedphrase. What do I used to get into it? Can I use the --listpass command on this list?
This video is the right direction, just watch it and reproduce the examples to start with and then adapt from there.
@@CryptoGuideAwesome thanks! And if I know 2 words are next to each other do I put it down as... Word A , Word B once
Or stacked
Word A , Word B
Word A , Word B
Just follow the documentation for grouping words together in a tokenlist. (There is a usages example for this)
Running Win 10 taskmanager, I noticed While running BTCRecover I noticed that almost 100% effort was being expended by my PC's 8 cores while the GPU did only 2% at most. I followed the instruction on installing BTCR with GPU. Where could I have gone wrong?
It depends on what sort of recovery you are doing. Have you even enabled GPU acceleration?
Asking here because I've tried everything I got but unseccessfully. I have a 24-words seed for a BTC wallet (I used Electrum to set it up) which are scrambled (only the first few I know the exact order). Is it possible (and if so, how) to tweak the btcrecover tool to restrict the search to just the words i specify?
While it is trivial to descramble a 12 word seed, a 24 word seed is far more complex. When you say you know the exact order of a few, how many do you mean?
@@CryptoGuide I know the order of the first 6 ones. I'm hoping that descramble 18 words it's not an impossible feat.. It's not like there's that much on the wallet but knowing I'll lose it because of extra safety is a hard beat
It would take about 533531 days to descramble 18 words... The realistic limit to descrambling a seed is 15 words which would take three months. (12 words takes an hour) It's worth holding on to the seed as you only need 2000x speed boost to make this do-able, something which might occur at some point in the next few decades years. (A high end 64 core CPU can already do it about 30x faster, or see this: medium.com/@johncantrell97/how-i-checked-over-1-trillion-mnemonics-in-30-hours-to-win-a-bitcoin-635fe051a752)
You didn't lose the funds due to extra safety but due to a poor/dangerous backup strategy.... Next time, use a normal seed and a BIP39 passphrase and be sure to have correct backups of both...
Hi thanks for the informative video and finding time to reply to everyone. I am in a similar situation to this guy I scrambled mine but I know they go right to left and I know one starting word is there a tool that could make that possible to recover? Thanks
Replies to comment's over a month old don't send notifications, so it's a fluke that I saw this. Just create a new comment thread if you want support. (I won't see your reply to this message)
What command do I use for a trust wallet for descramble. My wallet starts with bc1. I can’t figure it out. Can you paste the command here please
It's all here: btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/
Just go with one of the Bitcoin BIP39 examples and substitute the address for your address and the seed words in the tokenlist for your seed words. (And also increase the address generation limit if the address you are using isn't the first address)
It's possible that there are also other issues with your seed, so if you are stuck, generate a test wallet first and test with that to make sure you are doing it all correctly.
@@CryptoGuide do I change wallet type to BIP39?
@@CryptoGuide oh I just saw it. Ty
The Bitcoin examples already have BIP39 as the wallet type, but yes, this is what you need if using a Bitcoin address.
@@CryptoGuide ok perfect. Thanks again
Hello. The DeFi wallet I use is mobile only. Even the desktop extension requires confirmation on the mobile app. Is it possible to use this software on an iPhone? As an alternative, could I run the wallet app on an android emulator and have the software interact with it on the desktop?
Does the wallet app produce a standard BIP39 seed? If so you can just use BTCRecover with it as normal.
I can’t understand the derivation lists. I know 9 or 10 of my keys and I don’t know the order. Should I be doing something specific ?
If you only have 9 or 10 words and it's scrambled then this isn't really recoverable. (It's just math)
@@CryptoGuide and 11 scrambled? Is this possible?
It will take a few months but yes it's practical if the wallet value makes that worthwhile.
@@CryptoGuide I have a list of 15 words. I know my 12 are there. How do I check this right? That’s my real question. I can’t figure out the command prompts. Sorry for all the questions
Ah riteo, it's just the same as a normal descrambling in terms of the tokenlist, but will need to run for a month or two.
Your best bet is to just make a test wallet, add another BIP39 word (so that you have 13) and then get everything working with that. Once that is sorted, you can try it with your real seed.
Hey... I've lost the correct order but I know the first word for order but don't know 11 remaining order of phrase. I've the eth address and btc address both. Is it possible to recover my wallet through given method by yours?
Of course
@@CryptoGuideit keeps counting passwords what to do.. I'm just trying first with your example for eth but so far it is only counting only. How much counting?
@@CryptoGuide any idea how much time it will take for etherium wallet.
It's just keep counting
It will count up to 12 factorial, so that's about 480,000,000
@@CryptoGuide if my correct order is found somewhere before completing half a billion counting. It will stop there or it will still be counting?
Does anyone understand how this program tests each of the 479 million possible combinations of the 12 words?
(12 factorial)
It's open source so you can check. Did you have a specific question about how it works? (It's actually pretty straightforward)
Ok crypto guide I don't know the address of this unscramble 12word phrase is there a specific command for that or same can work plz
Depending on which crypto you are using you could use an address database as per here btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Creating_and_Using_AddressDB/
@@CryptoGuide bitcoin with a blockchain wallet
In that case it's no problem if you don't have the address, you can just use an AddressDB.
@@CryptoGuide thanks
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@CryptoGuide I simply cannot get it to work. Has there been an update to this method? Installing Python, Pip and a whole bunch of other hoops is extremely complicated and even when minutely following your guide, I'm stuck. I have 12 (maybe only 11) scrambled seed phrase words and the public key and a wallet with substantial holdings (as in generational wealth) that I cannot access.
No, it all still works as before. Have you followed my video on installing BTCRecover for your platform?
If you are totally stuck then there are options for private support and stuff here cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/
My 12 word ethereum seed phrase got tampered i have the 10 words now ,But i dont have the first two words.
Also i know the 2nd word ends with do and first words is missing .
Can you please help me out
Just use BTCRecover with the 10 words you have, it will find the missing two in a couple of hours. (Just use all the defaults, no extra arguments required)
any way to optimize the --seedlist option? I was trying to descramble with extra words and I thought why not just create a file with only valid seed phrases, thinking it would take less time considering 29 million and 479 are far apart. It's painfully slow on my mac. Any pointers or tips to speed up that process? A new computer? gpu or cpu power? etc... thank you!
Basically you are likely just hitting a bottleneck due to your CPU. BTCRecover already skips hashing seeds without a valid checksum , so gets a large speed boost due to this, whereas your approach of manually thinning them out means that it needs to hash every one. (Meaning that you would see your raw performance which is likely under 5,000kp/s)
It shouldn't matter either way, as just letting BTCRecover run with its defaults will only needs hours on any modern CPU. (So you likely spent more time working on your seed list than it would have taken if you just left it)
Hello, I have an electrum 1 wallet seed that exceeds the eta (i.e. days and days rather than minutes). I tested the electrum 2 wallet seed and it only takes minutes (as in this video). What gives?
Electrum 1 wallets are encrypted differently, so it's much slower. Just set the max eta to a few days.
@@CryptoGuide Thanks for that!... is there a way (besides tinkering with token lists) to do these in percentage chunks?
You could use the --worker command to split them in to chunks, so something like worker 1/4 would split it in to four separate runs.
Is it possible to do this with a Solana wallet? Solflare?
Should work fine if it provides a 12 word seed.
Hi, can i use BTCRecover to find this ?
electrum btc wallet with 2 parts seed (2x12words).
1x12 bip39 having firsts 6 in order and 20 possible words to guess the next 6.
1x12 extrawords of another 20 words list
So if I understand if correctly you have an Electrum seed with a long "extra words" passphrase? In that case, probably not. If you do the math the possibilities for the seed part multiplied by the possible passphrases gives you a search space that is very very large. You need up narrow down your list or at least the number of words in unknown positions for the passphrase part.
Did you deposit any funds in to the raw seed without extra words? (To all least narrow down the search space by a factor of 400,000,000)
@@CryptoGuide Sorry i didn't see before posting but you kinda answered that (narrow the list) in the comments of the BTCRecover Install + GPU Acceleration video. Thanks anyway. The real question is about the 2 parts : 1x12bip39 + 1x12custom seed extension that are to get typed in two different windows in electrum interface when trying to add the wallet. Can btcrecover deal with that if i manage to narrow the 2nd list ?
I don't even know how to check it but do you mean it could matter if the wallet received any deposit before setting seed extension ?
The "extension words" are just handled like a BIP39 passphrase. While you can run seedrecover.py with a list of passphrases (--passphrase-list argument) you will not have any luck as the pure math of your sitation puts it in the unrecoverable situation.
GPU acceleration for checking large numbers of passphrases will come in the next few weeks, but unless you can narrow your possibilities right down, or at least solve the seed part first on it's own. (eg: having some funds that were deposited without extension words) then you are not going to be able to recover this...
@@CryptoGuide Okay so i'm looking for a 24-length seed+passphrase for which i need the seed. If early deposit is true, do i just need to try length-12 seedrecover on the wallet or is there some additionnal setup ? Thanks again
You will need to run seedrecover.py with a list of passphrases (--passphrase-list argument), but you will not have any luck as the pure math of your sitation puts it in the unrecoverable situation.
Is it possible to recover a eth 12 words seed if i have the scrambled words and i know the firs and the last words?
For sure, descrambling all 12 will take a few hours, but descrambling only 10 will only take a few minutes. Do you have an eth address to search for?
@@ThePr0digalS0n just follow the guide here, the Eth example is the closest to what you will need. github.com/3rdIteration/btcrecover/blob/master/docs/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example.md You can probably just leave off the BIP-32 path argument as it searches the common ones by default now
@@CryptoGuide Thankyou very much!!! Very interesting tool!!!
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sorry, just want to ask, already try the BTCrecover, but my laptop are just to slow & take a while to process it. i need your help to recover it for me & i'll give you reward if you manage to do it. i have 11 seed word (scrambled) & also need 1 more word to access it. any personal contact so i can talk about it with you? thx 🙏
The math of this kind of recovery makes it impractical. You need to find the mkssi g word or the order of at least some of the 11 you have.
If need to de-scramble a seed of 12 words for a Daedalus wallet (Cardano). The words are OK but the order of the words is not correct. Is that possible?
It's certainly possible, but the software might need a small modification to make it work.
Basically BTCRecover can work with any address that was produced with a wallet that follows standard BIP39/44 address derivation. Basically what you will need is a derivation path that these sorts of wallets (like Coinomi, etc) use so that you can go from seed -> address.
The issue is that some of these minor alt-coins don't follow the standards and it looks like ADA falls in to this category. (based on this: docs.cardano.org/cardano-components/cardano-wallet/doc/about-address-derivation)
So the bad news is that it looks like it won't work at this time, the good news is that it is probably quite straight-forward if someone from the ADA community wanted to create a pull request on the project Github that would enable ADA users to recover in situations like this. (over at github.com/3rdIteration/btcrecover) For someone familiar with Cardano derivation and python 3 it would be a few hours work tops...
Once the ability to use this non-standard derivation is added, it can brute-force descramble any 12 word seed in about an hour.
buenas, es posible recuperar semillas para frase de 24 palabras , si tengo 22 bien y dos dudosas? y que procedimiento debo seguir muchas gracias por el gran trabajo
You can recover with 22 out of 24 words, just use the defaults for BTCRecover and that should be fine. (No extra arguments needed)
Can I find a 12 word seed out of a list of 240 words? I do not recall any order of the 12 words. Thank you.
That's way too many possible combinations... The math alone makes this unrecoverable. I'm sorry for your loss.
amazing! im a noob and its working on windows as we speak counting passwords!
I followed yr instructions but in cmd.exe i did not have to type 'python' before 'btcrecover'
Good to hear :) Windows must have magically used Python3 to run the file... (Something I haven't seen happen before) Did you download python from python.org or the windows store?
@@CryptoGuide yes python.org . it was a stroke of luck/genius to not type python from cmd at which time your program came to life. but on my old dell laptop it looks to take 20 hours. i have paused it to keep things cool. there is barely 0.5eth in the wallet. so if i find the seed, it will be a privilege to tip ya.
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is there any way we can recover secret phrase using a bnb address ?
The BEP20 ones just work if you select the eth wallet type. For original Binance chain (starting with bnb1) they are not currently supported, bit it cold be added if you wanted to sponsor it either directly or as a trusted recovery.
@@CryptoGuide thank you for your reply,
You can fill out the form here and we can find a time forms.office.com/r/KEypP0FRvN
Sponsorship is normally $500 USD and then you do the recovery yourself. Alternatively it could be done though a trusted recovery where the sponsor fee is covered by the recovery fee.
How many of the seeds words do you have?
I have 24 word seed i think i mixed one or two words around can u assist
Should be straightforward. If you want a trusted recovery then you can request it here cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/
Greetings. when run with a dictionary of 2048 words, it simply returns the address of the folder.
You must be messing up the syntax.
I would like to run the scrambler but also with 10 out of the 12 known words. Is this still possible?
So the word is scrambled AND two words are missing? If so, that will take a few years to run at least...
@@CryptoGuide So I actually know 2 of the positions of the 10 scrambled words and did some research on your github and saw that you can add + ^x^ to let it know the position of a word. With that, would it still take an unrealstic time to uncover? How would I change the code to make it run knowing that 2 words are missing. I keept getting an error saying that it can't find any phrase if I put big-typos
So if you have 2 words where you know their exact position, 8 that are known but with unknown position and two totally unknown it should be doable. Would only take about two weeks to run on a high end PC (Modern i7 with something like a 3070 GPU)
Basically for the two words that are totally unknown, the tokenlist will be a row that includes every BIP39 word.
@@CryptoGuide Thank you so much appreciate the response
@@CryptoGuide I have found 1 more word. So now with 1 unknown word and knowing the positions of 2 words, how long would it take?
Hi sir, from what I understand is, I should create a .txt file that contains my 12 seed phrase. Where should i save it?
Ronin is just an eth wallet, do all that need to change is the address.
@@CryptoGuide where will the program find my 12 seed phrase to fix?
I don't even understand the question. BTCRecover will work just fine for a Ronin wallet, as it's just an Eth clone.
Yes sir. But i dont understand about the token list. Please help sir.
Just follow the examples here btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/
It has an Eth example
How to let it continue to search another seed when it found one seed.
This isn't implemented, nor will it be, so you will need to modify the source code.
Hello sir how i get the 12 word in btcrecover to descramble.. haven't see any video of that from you
That's exactly what this video covers... Where are you getting stuck?
@@CryptoGuide i intsall btc recover an every thing but how i actually put the unscramble 12 words in to run so it can give correct order.... i didn't see that part
So the guide is also in text here btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/Example_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/
Where exactly are you getting stuck?
@@CryptoGuide just need to know where exactly to past the 12 word.. will check the file you sent above
@@CryptoGuide it say syntax error
Hello, no download link on the page out of the link? My problem is, i have the 12 words (95% sure not scrampled) but i cant recover. I dont know how i generate the phrase, wich app.....can you please help?
Just use BTCRecover, my Github repo for it hasn't changed since this video was made
@@CryptoGuide Got it...right now the cmd command isnt working. Cant reach the download folder through cmd. alsways says...not found?
Then you are just messing it up. Just watch the videos on installing and testing it
Just watch the installation and basic seed recovery videos...
@@CryptoGuide iam god till min 6. now got a warning about the pip version (20.1.1.) cause i download exact the python version out of your video. is that ok, or should i upgrade?
How do I download the BTC recover? On My MacBook
Just follow my video on installing it on a Mac
thanks for share sir ... if i have 6 seed but i forgot 6 seed again.. how to solve .. i have only have seed no 1,2,4,7,9,10,12 ..
You can't recover from 6 missing words, that is too many. The max missing words is three if you know the position and two if the location is unknown.
@@CryptoGuide lets say I know the exact position of two but the words are mixed up how long would that take?
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Hi Sir, I've followed your tutorial but still need your guidance to solve AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'split' in cmd when I tried to recover my wallet using my ethereum address
Fixed that bugnl today so just download the repository against
How do you recover your wallet once you have lost or forgotten your seed phrase? I had to uninstall and reinstall my wallet; but, when I did that, I realized I had not written my seed phrase down anywhere.
So you have zero words? If so then unfortunately this is unrecoverable.
@@CryptoGuide what if you have just some of the words?
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Nice video you got here.
I hope I can ask you some questions to improve my understanding.
1) What information do you need to recover a scrambled 12 word seedphrase? Only the 12 words? I guess you need the adress too, right?
2) It seems like you also need to know what blockchain you are using, is that correct?
3) Does it also work for a hardware device? Since often you have multiple coins on it if you get your whole hardware device back or only the used adress (in case you have to use one)?
4) How can you find out the correct one? Is it because you use the adress in combination with the 12 words?
I mean there sure is more than one seed with these 12 words just in different order, no?
5) How much time would it take to recover 24 words instead?
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
As an additional question which is maybe the most important one.
In case somebody gets my seed phrase (stolen for ex.).
How can I protect myself such that the seed phrase won't help the thief?
I saw your videos, so adding words doesn't help. Scrambling words in the 12 word case doesn't help.
Does scrambling help for 24 words?
How else can I stay safe?
I mean since one should make multiple copies it is more likely that one gets stolen.
1) Just the 12 words, no address required.
2) You do need to know which blockchain to search.
3) Yes, you can recover the seed for the whole device.
4) It checks against either the address provided or a database of every address ever used.
5) Thousands and thousands of years.
6) Use a BIP39 passphrase
@@CryptoGuide Thanks for your replies.
So basically 12 words are never safe if one gets the correct 12 words.
Answer 5) --> This means scrambling 24 words in a way I can remember is a legit way?
Answer 6) --> The 24 words are a BIP39 passphrase, no? They don't keep me safe if someone would get it. Do you mean I should use an extra word as security? Do you have a video about this setup?
Many thanks for your help.
Scrambling is a terrible idea and should never be done as a means of security. A BIP39 passphrase is not the same as your seed phrase (or mnemonic). I talk about this more here: th-cam.com/video/53khH9vDw2I/w-d-xo.html
@@CryptoGuide Thank you very much.
Hey so will this work for me, as I have my 12 seed phrase physically written done for Trust Wallet. I thought it was in the right order but it logs me in but shows a different address from the one I have had since the beginning?
It could also just be that you have a typo on the seed.
@@CryptoGuide so it's opening a wallet but it's not the address I have with all my transaction as I have that saved to check on BScan so I was assuming it could be jumbled? I only have one Trustwallet wallet so its been confusing enough for me lol
Scrambled or a simple single word typo
@@CryptoGuide I've been trying the scrambled world recovery. But I'm getting. An error in Python with recover master
Did you follow the installation instructions?
I have a 24 seed. My problem is that I am no longer sure about the words. I have more than 24 words (about 70 words) that could be and also always know the position of them. Is there any way to recover the seed via btcrecover? I would like to have several possible words for each word position. How can I do that with btcrecover?
You can do this with a tokenlist, whether it is possible comes down to the math of it... You will basically need to work out how many possible combinations there are that you need to check and if you end up with a number less than 100 billion then it's do-able in a reasonable timeframe.
@@CryptoGuide Thank you for your answer! Have you already made a video about the handling of token lists or is there a tutorial somewhere?
It's basically this video here. There is also some stuff in this usage example that would help btcrecover.readthedocs.io/en/latest/Usage_Examples/2020-05-23_multi_device_descrambling_12_word_seed_with_extras/Example_multi_device_descrambling_12_word_seed_with_extras/
@@CryptoGuide I will try it out. Thanks a lot! Should I then enter all variants, e.g. for the first word, one after the other into the list like this: + ^1^ocean
+ ^1^blue and so on?
Basically if it only needs to select one item of the two, you should put them all on the same row.
hi, after i run the seed recover it freeze after using workgroup message, if i add --no-eta in command line, it freeze at elapsed time 0.00 kps 0.00
Depending on how complex your token file is it will sit there for a few minutes at the start. (As I haven't added a "working" sort of dialogue or status indicator in the pre-start phase yet, there is an open github issue for it)
@@CryptoGuide i have 198 words in my tokenlist to recover 12words bip39 wallet. All of them i set with positioning ^1^ till ^12^ infront of those words, because i still remember the position. i tried run with 159 words in tokenlist its working fine, but when i load 198 words tokenlist then it just freeze there after the "workgroup size" message. i also tried 198words without positioning then its able to run but i know without the position it would be alot of posibility to test. so i need it with position
If it doesn't crash it will likely run if you just leave it for a while. That is a lot of words to be missing, what exactly are you trying to do? (In terms of how many words you have, how many you are trying to find, etc)
Can I do this for xverse wallet
If you have a 12 word seed for it then yes.
I know wallet generation 12 seed in different order and seed extension. But nothing works, help me.
If you are totally stuck you can request a paid private session. They are $100 USD for an hour over zoom/Skype. (Full details, terms and request form are here: cryptoguide.tips/recovery-services-consultations/)
@@CryptoGuide If I create a wallet without manual seed input as shown in the video with 12 seed everything works, if I create a wallet with 12 seed and manual seed input it does not determine the correct order, as I understand the manually entered seed I am 13 known seed and in txt I assigning it ^ 13 ^ qwerty. I do not need to unlock the wallet, I am interested in how it works.
Just reproduce the example in the video and modify from there.
@@CryptoGuide I reviewed the video, you only use an enumeration of an unknown sedd combination, I did not see the addition of a well-known passphrase in it. I changed the txt file of the known seed 2 elements from 12 places to the rest indicated that they are true for instant execution of the script. I added --passphrase to the script, now, when executing the script, I need to enter a passphrase that I know and it is true, it is comparing 2 words out of 12 and still cannot find the correct combination. If the wallet is created without using a passphrase, then everything works fine.
I want to say that when creating an empty Electrum wallet with 12 seed phrases and using a passphrase, seed sorting does not work.
If using a passphrase then you need to used the passphrase argument.
Hey, can i use this method to recover tron? i have the 12 seed words but keep getting an error. I know it was written down correctly and in the correct order?
You probably just have a typo in one word. You can just use BTCRecover with all the defaults, so no need to use a tokenlist like in this example.
Okay so its counting the password how do i know or find my specific word order after doing this, with it display my word order
It will run for a few hours and if it finds a seeds that matches the address you provided, it will display it.
I lost my recovery phrase of Metamask I have only my wallet address and which tokens was in wallet can I restore my seed phrases???
In this case if you don't also have a working install of that wallet then you cannot recover your funds. If all you have is an address then you have nothing, I'm sorry for your loss.
Is it possible to recover a eth 11 words seed if I have the scrambled world's and I know the first and the last words?
So are you saying that you have 11 of the 12 words, but are sure if location of at least 2? If that is the case you could certainly brute force that within a couple of days.
Hey there, I never recieved my 12 seed phrase when creating my coinbase wallet. It allowed me to "save and do later" which never happened. STUPID ME! I was using FACE ID to sign in for months, I was randomly kicked off the app due to an update and I haven't been able to access since I don't have the 12 seed phrase....Any ideas how to pull the data from my phone if possible or what data I would search for?
Thanks,
If you didn't back the seed up and didn't choose to store it in the cloud then this will be unrecoverable.
@@CryptoGuide There’s no way the program can find the combination with entering the addresses associated with the account?
No program can do this, it's basic math...
Unless you have either a working wallet or a working backup, an address doesn't help you at access the funds in any way.
@@CryptoGuide understood. Is there anyway I can dig through my phones data to find what the phone was using during the time it was logging in using biometrics? Thanks
If it was biometrics then it would have been using your phone's secure keychain, so this is unrecoverable.
Does this also help find lost seed in Ronin wallet?
How many of the seed words do you have?
If you are missing all of them, then you can't recover the seed. (It's just math)
what if i forget the address and it only has 12 random words. can it still work?
How to?
What do you mean "12 random words", do you mean that you have the correct 12 and just don't know the order?
@@CryptoGuide yess
But, i forget the public address
Which coins where you using with the wallet?
@@CryptoGuide etherum
Hello I am still trying to unscramble the exodus wallet. Are you positive btcrecover supports exodus? I have tried most of the commands on the page but I was pretty sure it was the lite pin/ native segwit one but my test phrase still isn’t being found when I run the program. Please tell me what I should be running this is taking so long and I think I have all the words Just need this to work
It supports Exodus fine, just generate a test wallet to verify you are doing it correctly.
@@CryptoGuide yeah that is the problem I can’t get my test wallet to work
python3 seedrecover.py --no-dupchecks --mnemonic-length 12 --language EN --dsw --wallet-type BIP39 --addr-limit 1 --addrs bc1qf9vl92tyewez60wk5wcx9ysvuqanpfvdrw0pas --tokenlist ./docs/Usage_Examples/2020-05-02_Descrambling_a_12_word_seed/randomcombination_bip39.txt --bip32-path "m/84'/0'/0'/0" is what I am currently testing. I have tried so many combos and none have worked.
It is a bench 32 wallet I believe so a native seg
Just start with the unmodified example and adjust from there. In terms of Exodus, it just follows BIP39 so works fine, so just do a standard recovery (something like one missing word) for your test wallet and adjust from there.
i need to recover an atomic wallet can you help me?.
It depends, Atomic wallet doesn't follow standards meaning its seed backups are worthless for some cryptos when it comes to other wallets or recovery... It comes down to which cryptos you had in it, what were you storing?
@@CryptoGuide $400 of btc
@@CryptoGuide when i click to recover with seed back up , it says creating a new wallet will delete all old files and dont want to delete my funds.
@@CryptoGuide th-cam.com/video/eS0VUl3w69Y/w-d-xo.html watching this video of yours and its telling me python isn't found.
@@CryptoGuide ill definitely donate btc to u if u can help me get in.
What if you lost one word from your seed phrase
So lost one word as well as the 11 you still have being scrambled?
can i do this process for SAfemoon tokens?
Yep, just follow the process for an Eth wallet.