This episode was recorded with the MoveMic into a Canon C70. MoveMic was set to speech mode. We normalized the levels to -23 LUFS in post and did NOT do any other processing.
@@akak5128 Thanks. I'm not sure what you're asking - stop accepting free gear for review? If so, I have one more commitment and then I'm not accepting any for at least 3 months. Is that what you mean?
@@akak5128 I’m not bending to haters. I’m checking to make sure I don’t have any blind spots. Also, I’ll still do reviews, I’ll just borrow or buy the gear instead of receive it in exchange for the review. Don’t worry, plenty more reviews are coming!
Very glad to see Shure seriously address the mobile recording market. This plus the new SLXD camera-mount receiver are 2 great options from a solid company.
Thanks so much Curtis! Another great review with all of the important points. Something told me to wait on purchasing a consumer grade wireless and MoveMic was the answer I was looking for. It definitely sounds the best to me and has the easiest connection to a phone. I don’t think I would have been happy with the Rode or DJI. You got me sold and I made another audio purchase due to your excellent review.
Don't forget the PicoMic that which is a smaller wireless microphone and I think you liked when you tested it. I think it is a shame that most people have forgotten this wireless mic system for the microphone is less visible than a lavaliere, so wonderful for just getting a quick interview when run and gunning..
@@curtisjudd I thought in your review you gave it a good review like many others have done. I in fact ordered one because of your review. They do however have a new microphone since you tested the original and what is great you can easily change the batteries. I just changed mine which cost to UK 15 Euros which included DHL delivery from France. The battery arrived in about two days also.
@@DaveKnowlesFilmmaker good to hear. What I liked about the first one was the receiver UX. Also the tiny transmitters. But the sound quality, not so much. Glad to hear they’ve improved that with a new mic. 👍
As always Curtis, you provide the most comprehensive overview of the system by far and understand the use cases much better. For quick turnaround run and gun interviews (like trade show coverage), what a brilliant solution. For narrative work…not so much. Thank you very much for the information.
Great comprehensive comparison Judd. If you don’t mind me asking. How do you practically measure the latency of this wireless systems? Do you record the clap with the wireless system connected to your camera then disconnected and plug in a wired mic, clap and then the distance between the highest peak of the wave from the clap? Or is there a way to record both mics (the wireless system and the wired mic) at the same time? Like using a an audio interface (but those add laso delay no?) hahah. Sorry for the noob question. I’m getting started in audio and I really don’t trust the “less than 5 ms” stated by every company 😅 Thousand thanks and as always great job 💪🏼
I hook the receiver up to a camera and then record a video with me clapping in it. Then I check to see how many frames off the visual and audio claps are.
@@curtisjudd yeah but since the wireless reciver is using your mic input what do you compare it to? Do you have a second mic connected? If so, to what? A second camera? Thanks again. 🙏🏼 Edit: typos
@@Mr.C0ffee I make the assumption that if I plugged a lavalier microphone into the camera's 3.5mm input, it would be perfectly in sync, And when I plug the wireless receiver into that same input, I can see how many frames off it is. This is due to the latency. Then I can do the math to calculate the latency.
I recently bought the DJI and out of the three in your test, it sounds the muddiest and quite dull. I wish I’d waited a bit longer now. It’s for my iPhone, and it’s better than the native mic, so I won’t get to down on it. There’s not much in it between the Rode and Shure, but if I could choose, I’d get the Shure.
@@curtisjudd thanks mate. I think we can all get caught up in the shiny new purchase trap and forget what these gadgets are really for sometimes. I don’t think most audiences give a tuppeny one about the gear used to make the media they are enjoying (as long as it’s not so bad it impedes their experience).
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions I applied to go to an audio engineering course in London with limited spaces some years ago as a very young man and in the interview, they asked me what my dream setup would be. I started reeling off expensive brand named equipment and what it all does . My application was rejected. I learned later that my answer should have been something like “it doesn’t matter. As long as I can do the work with it”.
Thank you for the detailed review. Can you please confirm to me if this microphone saves recordings inside it as files like Rode without having your phone with you?
Can man record 2 separate tracks when recording to a iphone via the app? What about with the receiver? And finally, how important is it to get this possibility when use-case scenario is 2 people interviews?
Peace be with you! Thank you for one of your comprehensive reviews in which you’re famous for. IMHO, the Shure Move Mic should be compared against both the PicoMic 2 Pro and Hollyland LARK M2 because all are much smaller than the other wireless mics. All three can be concealed/disappear on a persons clothing more so than the box mic. The Pico Pro can be utilized with external microphones. Thanks again👍
Thanks for this review, and all the others! Is it possible to use a single Move mic with the Blackmagic Camera app with good quality, or is it subject to audio quality degraation?
amazing review! what would you recommend for recording videos at home? mainly educational youtube videos (i use a normal mic with an interface but i like to use wireless)
@@curtisjudd I don't! I mostly sit on my desk and record, the reason for why I'm looking into wireless, is that the mic always in the way, and I end up in a very uncomfortable position after recording for several hours. I'm mostly thinking about ergonomics I heard a shotgun might be a solution for this, but it could pick up more noise from my keyboard
Thanks Curtis. These mics are a great and convenient size, but I'm noticing some VERY intense sibilance from them on your regular voice throughout the video. It's not as bad during the Holmes readthrough, so maybe it was an isolated acoustical quirk? I must say that the Rode seems to have the more flattering and useful frequency response range of the three. Pity they're such a box! I'm pretty sure that the next incarnation of them will be significantly more svelte! Thanks again. 🙂
Hey Curtis ... Great video! Quick question for you ... Could you use this Wireless System in a live setting? I was thinking of using this for wedding ceremonies to place one of transmitters on the groom and one on the officiant. For the receiver, go from the 3.5 trs to xlr into a speaker. Wasn't sure if that was possible?
Sound similar out of the box but totally different leagues when it comes to transmission distance and ability to use external antennae and use UHF frequencies and tune to different frequencies (all available with THEOS but not MoveMic). SHURE has other wireless systems which are more similar to THEOS.
@@curtisjudd all I konw about is that camera mounted Shure SLX5D system but it doesn't record. You can always buy once cry once with Axient but I was curious about the Theos it seems to click the right boxes for $1000
Can you use the MoveMic for calls in MS teams in your phone? I've read somewhere that the microphone detection in different apps in the phone is app dependent, so not sure. Thanks in advance!
@@curtisjuddThanks a lot for your answer. I settled for a Sony ECM-LV1 for my use case for the moment (just to be heard a bit better on calls while on the road).
When shooting video, it appears that one has to use the Shure video app to record audio direct to the phone. The question is whether that's true if Shure's receiver is used. This question is of interest to people who want to use, for example, Apple's native camera app or Blackmagic Camera.
When using the receiver, it doesn't require the Shure app. Only if going direct to phone. But you can still manage the mic settings via the app when using the receiver to route audio to another app
@@curtisjudd Thanks, that's my understanding. For people who have a preferred video app, I think that this is an important distinction. There are reasons to use the Shure app even if the receiver is needed for some projects that require the updates that came with iPhone 15.
Hi Curtis. I do know that this may not be an appropriate comparison, but how does the Shure noise canceling option compare to SD's Mixpre offering? BTW I purchased your MixPre course almost immediately after buying the Mixpre, it is invaluable for someone like me, who is new to this business!
I just bought these without the receiver - they connect fine with the MotivVideo App and sound great outside with fuzzy topper for wind BUT the app must be used for the video recording and is Heating up my iPhone 11 Pro super high and drains the battery fairly quickly. Anyone else having these issues? Does anyone happen to know if the receiver help alleviate this issue or any other suggestions to alleviate?
Are you filming for long periods of time? I used and iPhone 14 Pro Max and did not notice my phone heating up, but I never recorded for more than about 15 minutes at a time.
I cover motorsports events and the Rode Wireless Pro has been a no fuss solution for over 1000 track-side interviews in every type of weather and dirty environment you can think of. We use it with weatherproof lavs, which allows us to keep the transmitters tucked away out of the elements. That has certainly helped their longevity, but it’s also just high quality hardware to begin with. We’ve never had a single recording hiccup, no broken files, no loss of time code, etc. In the same time period that we’ve been been using the Rodes, we’ve had multiple unprompted internal hardware failures in our DJI drones and gimbals (and our Sony cameras, switched to Canon and had no issues since). DJI has no peers when it comes to those two product categories so we’re stuck with them, but I wouldn’t trust their gear for things like mics and action cameras when there’s viable alternatives on the market. All that being said, these Shure wireless mics seem like an excellent choice for the prosumer/TH-camr that has the luxury of controlling their recording environment and doing multiple takes if something goes wrong. I have the Shure MV7 at my desk for voiceover work and I’ve been absolutely blown away by their settings software. It’s the perfect balance of providing all the features you need without being overly complicated, and each switch/slider in the app provides high quality results. I prefer the output from the built-in compressor and filters in the app over the Adobe apps we use in post.
Never used it, so I don't have an opinion one way or the other. I don't really vlog, so I'm not really in a good position to use or review cameras like that.
I just got it from Amazon. Mainly to use with iphone. I’m bummed that I have to use the Shure app for video, rather than being able to have the mic connected to the phone and just use the phone camera. I have to buy the receiver if I want to use the native iphone camera with the mics. Don’t like that.
I found the shure was a little nasal soundimg. The rhode seemed a little better balanced. Just my opinion. All other points are in agreement. The Shure does not have a backup recording in the tx, which is a bit of a tradeoff with wireless
Excellent review. Definitely has the best audio. But...The pathetic windmuff is downright criminal. Especially for a wireless setup where it's going to be used outside! I'm a beginner with a Fulaim X5 and have never had any trouble with wind noise with its deadcat.
@@ManuelParodiRamos Possibly, though there's more risk of picking up clothing rustle and acoustically designed fur covers may also keep the mic sounding more "open" rather than muffled.
I don't really have a need or an opinion on this gear. I use pocket recorders and just am not a wireless guy, unless the wireless system uses all user replaceable batts. Cheers.
Curtis, your voice sounds great with the Movemic, but your wife, not so good. It's astonishing the difference in quality between your voice and hers with this system.
If internal recording is critical for your workflow, then the SHURE is not for you. For those who prefer in-built processing? The SHURE is a good option.
Internal recording is overrated - they drift over time and you have multiple record sources - so good luck syncing that on a long interview. Almost better to take the bad version which was transmitted than sync 2 onboard versions
@@MachineLearningStreetTalk Nonsense. If there is a wireless drop-out you lose audio,, and that segment of drop-out can be retrieved from the internal recording and inserted. The internal recording is a safety track , not just to sync it in timecode. If you tried to do any recording with wireless at these frequencies in a crowded location you would realise this.
@@Tom_Roberts Yes I agree they are useful as a backup and last resort - great for gap filling in the scenario you described, but on long local only recordings you would need to manually align (tedious as they drift fast) and only play one channel at a time (comb filtering). I'm well aware of the wireless glitches on the DJIs, I have both versions - the second generation is dramatically better as it happens.
"On loan from Shure"? That's pretty poor from Shure to be honest, they couldn't afford to send you the gear for free and you get to keep it? Great review either way! It's just a shame they're making you send the gear back...
Continue to be disappointed in the sound quality of the DJI Mic 2. A bad sounding mic that has 32 bit float and internal recording is still a bad sounding mic. - Another good review Curtis.
@@curtisjudd I'm not sure people even understand 32 bit. They just know it's possible, and have their own opinion on why it's important, so all devices will NEED to have it, otherwise...
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@@curtisjudd i had many instances especially at events when interviewing people an all of a sudden either super loud laughing, or sound checks or something comes along and then i really need either a good limiter or 32bit float. I am okay with 24bit if there is a limiter i can trust. Repairing clipped signal is not that hard with izotope but it is simply more work.
I find that in many of those cases, that part gets cut - we don't usually keep coughs or sound checks that would make the dialogue un-hearable. So no need to recover that. Laughs, especially multiple people laughing at the same time, on the other hand....
@@ovidiu.gramesc Good point. And also, the marketing people and influencers have done a good job convincing people that they need it. In reality, it is important to understand when it can be useful and when it does not make things better.
*I have to give out a warning to folks who have a DJI Mic 2. The Mic 2 works perfectly, but be warned, the device is super tiny and disappears in the hand ! The Mic 2 also has a super smooth plastic surface, which is really easy to lose your grip on and drop ! Due to its tiny size, the DJI Mic 2 is also easy to lose on shoots !*
This review goes 100% against the conclusions of the review by Fstoppers....... Stay away from Shure was the conclusion. And it does not have internal recording.... And, drum sound, the price of the Shure can be DOUBLE compared to the competition. So watch other reviews
Perspective drives the difference. I covered the fact that it doesn’t have internal recording which is fine, especially when the use case is live-streaming.
With all due respect to Fstoppers for the many helpful reviews they post, I don’t have the impression they understand sound recording all that well. I also wonder if Fstoppers had a damaged or defective unit.
It would be a possibility. When FStoppers was reviewing the DJI Mic is also was a defective unit. So take that for what it is. FStoppers experience is of course photography and not so much audio recordings. And i do trust Curtis's experience. I just found it too much deviating from that review. I hope others will review the MoveMic. It would be a shame if Shure would not live up to their quality standards.... @@waveland
This episode was recorded with the MoveMic into a Canon C70. MoveMic was set to speech mode. We normalized the levels to -23 LUFS in post and did NOT do any other processing.
@@akak5128 Thanks. I'm not sure what you're asking - stop accepting free gear for review? If so, I have one more commitment and then I'm not accepting any for at least 3 months. Is that what you mean?
@@akak5128 I’m not bending to haters. I’m checking to make sure I don’t have any blind spots. Also, I’ll still do reviews, I’ll just borrow or buy the gear instead of receive it in exchange for the review. Don’t worry, plenty more reviews are coming!
It was easier to like this review than to explain why I like this review
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And yet you are quite sure of this fact. Classic
Are we sure 2 and 2 …?
Very glad to see Shure seriously address the mobile recording market. This plus the new SLXD camera-mount receiver are 2 great options from a solid company.
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Perfect video to compare this to the DJI. You get what you pay for. Always the only channel i go to for audio gear reviews
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Thanks so much Curtis! Another great review with all of the important points. Something told me to wait on purchasing a consumer grade wireless and MoveMic was the answer I was looking for. It definitely sounds the best to me and has the easiest connection to a phone. I don’t think I would have been happy with the Rode or DJI. You got me sold and I made another audio purchase due to your excellent review.
👍 Happy recording!
Don't forget the PicoMic that which is a smaller wireless microphone and I think you liked when you tested it. I think it is a shame that most people have forgotten this wireless mic system for the microphone is less visible than a lavaliere, so wonderful for just getting a quick interview when run and gunning..
Yes, though I hope they improved the sound of the mic. The first gen didn’t sound so great.
the problem with picomic its not available in alot of country. i bought the movemic as soon heard about it.
@@iDealMedley Where are you because certainly in Uk they arrive from France almost the next day.
@@curtisjudd I thought in your review you gave it a good review like many others have done. I in fact ordered one because of your review. They do however have a new microphone since you tested the original and what is great you can easily change the batteries. I just changed mine which cost to UK 15 Euros which included DHL delivery from France. The battery arrived in about two days also.
@@DaveKnowlesFilmmaker good to hear. What I liked about the first one was the receiver UX. Also the tiny transmitters. But the sound quality, not so much. Glad to hear they’ve improved that with a new mic. 👍
As always Curtis, you provide the most comprehensive overview of the system by far and understand the use cases much better. For quick turnaround run and gun interviews (like trade show coverage), what a brilliant solution. For narrative work…not so much. Thank you very much for the information.
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Thanks Curtis and mystery lady in blue. Concise, complete and, convincing review.
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Thanks for the great in depth look Curtis!!
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Thank you for the review Curtis. Very helpful.
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How does Movemic handle outdoor/run & gun action movements? Have always loved Shure gear but $$$$ was Biggest speedbump!
Action movements? Fine, as long as you mount it so that the mic capsule isn't rubbing against clothing.
Curious on the Shure MoveMic vs Hollyland Lark M2
I have the Lark Max and it is a great system. They, influencers, usually compare dji and rode but the hollyland is no slouch,
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Great comprehensive comparison Judd. If you don’t mind me asking. How do you practically measure the latency of this wireless systems? Do you record the clap with the wireless system connected to your camera then disconnected and plug in a wired mic, clap and then the distance between the highest peak of the wave from the clap?
Or is there a way to record both mics (the wireless system and the wired mic) at the same time? Like using a an audio interface (but those add laso delay no?) hahah.
Sorry for the noob question. I’m getting started in audio and I really don’t trust the “less than 5 ms” stated by every company 😅
Thousand thanks and as always great job 💪🏼
I hook the receiver up to a camera and then record a video with me clapping in it. Then I check to see how many frames off the visual and audio claps are.
@@curtisjudd yeah but since the wireless reciver is using your mic input what do you compare it to? Do you have a second mic connected? If so, to what? A second camera?
Thanks again. 🙏🏼
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@@Mr.C0ffee I make the assumption that if I plugged a lavalier microphone into the camera's 3.5mm input, it would be perfectly in sync, And when I plug the wireless receiver into that same input, I can see how many frames off it is. This is due to the latency. Then I can do the math to calculate the latency.
Was audio from mobile phone sample 8:03 compressed in app?
Yes, Speech mode, light compression.
It's decent, for 1st Shure attempt. I like the small form factor if compared to my Picomic Pro where you can connect ext lav.
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I've rewatched this a few times. When you record two mics, I assume you get a combined file, but can you get individual files as well?
Yes on different tracks.
So, while you do need to use their app, you can export the complete audio file to do post in any software you like, right? Outstanding overview!
Yes. 👍
can you go through ways to hide the transmitter? since it doesnt have any 3.5mm mic input
It has a clip on the back and SHURE recommends clipping it to a lapel or pocket with the clip on the outside.
Interesting product. Let's discuss this on one of your Sunday Livestreams. Great Review as always!
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No pros and cons in the beginning anymore ?
Moved to the end and you can find it with the index. The newer TH-cam algorithm was massively punishing us with the summary at the start.
@@curtisjudd totally understand
Yours still totally amazing
Have you ever worked with the PicoGear wireless lav system? I like how small they are. Do you know how the Shure compares to them?
In my tests, the Shure sounds much better and also have the processing features.
How is this compared to the pico mic? It seems the most comparable.
I haven’t tried the newest version of PicoMic but the Shure sounds much better than the original PicoMic.
Can you set noise reduction, EQ, etc. on the receiver too or app only?
I believe you have to turn these on via the app.
I recently bought the DJI and out of the three in your test, it sounds the muddiest and quite dull. I wish I’d waited a bit longer now. It’s for my iPhone, and it’s better than the native mic, so I won’t get to down on it. There’s not much in it between the Rode and Shure, but if I could choose, I’d get the Shure.
Just keep making great content. 👍
@@curtisjudd thanks mate. I think we can all get caught up in the shiny new purchase trap and forget what these gadgets are really for sometimes. I don’t think most audiences give a tuppeny one about the gear used to make the media they are enjoying (as long as it’s not so bad it impedes their experience).
@@StarWarsJay Couldn't have said it better - people are there for the content/the story. They don't care what gear you used to make it.
@@LearnLightAndSoundSessions I applied to go to an audio engineering course in London with limited spaces some years ago as a very young man and in the interview, they asked me what my dream setup would be. I started reeling off expensive brand named equipment and what it all does . My application was rejected. I learned later that my answer should have been something like “it doesn’t matter. As long as I can do the work with it”.
Thank you for the review, can I connect the shure receiver to the iPhone with a usbc-lightning cable and record with third parties app?
Good question. Yes, you can!
Thank you for the detailed review. Can you please confirm to me if this microphone saves recordings inside it as files like Rode without having your phone with you?
It does not.
@@curtisjudd thank you
I saw dual-channel capability on the RX unit, but unclear if dual-channel recording is possible over bluetooth in the Shure app?
Yes, that’s why you MUST use the app - it supports connection of both transmitters at the same time.
Nice vid, as always!
We would like to see Lark M2 Review!
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when you connect it to the phone using bluetooth. you need to use the included camera app right? is the Image stabilisation option available?
Correct. It appears to use image stabilization on my iPhone 14 Pro Max.
@@curtisjudd Thank you very much
Next Hollyland Lark M2 review. Anyway good review as always Curtis, thanks
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Is their an indicator on the transmitters that the phone is actually recording. Or to turn on off the recording from the transmitter.
No
Can man record 2 separate tracks when recording to a iphone via the app? What about with the receiver? And finally, how important is it to get this possibility when use-case scenario is 2 people interviews?
Peace be with you! Thank you for one of your comprehensive reviews in which you’re famous for. IMHO, the Shure Move Mic should be compared against both the PicoMic 2 Pro and Hollyland LARK M2 because all are much smaller than the other wireless mics. All three can be concealed/disappear on a persons clothing more so than the box mic. The Pico Pro can be utilized with external microphones. Thanks again👍
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Excellence from Shure - but I'm staying with my DJI v1 kit. Another great review ...
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I love listening to the noise reduction section of the video with someone vacuuming over here.
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Thanks for this review, and all the others! Is it possible to use a single Move mic with the Blackmagic Camera app with good quality, or is it subject to audio quality degraation?
You’ll need the receiver to use the BMD camera app. It sounds great
@@curtisjudddoes this mean the Reciever is the only way to get audio if not using the native Shure app?
@@sumitino yes
Thank you @@curtisjudd Appreciate the reply!
Thanks for the thorough review Curtis. One question, maybe you can try out. Can you connect one of the Shure MoveMic's to the DJI Osmo Pocket 3?
No, unfortunately doesn’t work.
@@curtisjudd thank you
The size reminds me of the Pico mics from back in the days.
Yes! But better sound.
Could you use a 3.5mm to xlr adapter with the receiver to plug in to a audio mixer?
Yes
Nice review. Do you know what the battery life is in high power mode?
I’d assume 1/2 or less.
@@curtisjudd Thanks
amazing review!
what would you recommend for recording videos at home? mainly educational youtube videos (i use a normal mic with an interface but i like to use wireless)
Depends on which features are most important to you. Do you record with your phone? Then the SHURE.
@@curtisjudd I usually do screencasts (coding tutorial) on my desktop
@@adibhannainteresting. Do you move around a lot? I never recommend wireless when a wired mic will do.
@@curtisjudd I don't! I mostly sit on my desk and record, the reason for why I'm looking into wireless, is that the mic always in the way, and I end up in a very uncomfortable position after recording for several hours. I'm mostly thinking about ergonomics
I heard a shotgun might be a solution for this, but it could pick up more noise from my keyboard
@@adibhanna Consider a headset microphone.
Can you connect the shure mic to a dji action or pocket over Bluetooth?
No
I 💯 % respect your comparison between all the mics. Is it possible to compare comica q mic?
Thanks. The Comica is one I probably will not get to.
Wonderful review, thank you for this helpful content.
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Random question: what is the fan you use in your fan noise tests?
A Levoit air filter.
Thanks Curtis. These mics are a great and convenient size, but I'm noticing some VERY intense sibilance from them on your regular voice throughout the video. It's not as bad during the Holmes readthrough, so maybe it was an isolated acoustical quirk? I must say that the Rode seems to have the more flattering and useful frequency response range of the three. Pity they're such a box! I'm pretty sure that the next incarnation of them will be significantly more svelte! Thanks again. 🙂
Yes, my voice has plenty of sibilance and we didn't do any processing.
can you use the Move Mic with the Blackmagic Cam App?
According to The Time Preservation Society, you cannot use them like that
Fantastic review
Thanks!
Hey Curtis ... Great video! Quick question for you ... Could you use this Wireless System in a live setting? I was thinking of using this for wedding ceremonies to place one of transmitters on the groom and one on the officiant. For the receiver, go from the 3.5 trs to xlr into a speaker. Wasn't sure if that was possible?
Yes, with the right adapter cables
another great review. love your content!!!
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@chrisjudd How would you compare these to the Deity Theos. Other than the cost.
Sound similar out of the box but totally different leagues when it comes to transmission distance and ability to use external antennae and use UHF frequencies and tune to different frequencies (all available with THEOS but not MoveMic). SHURE has other wireless systems which are more similar to THEOS.
@@curtisjudd all I konw about is that camera mounted Shure SLX5D system but it doesn't record. You can always buy once cry once with Axient but I was curious about the Theos it seems to click the right boxes for $1000
Love this video.
Thanks, very informative.
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kinda weird how this mic kinda flew under the radar. The noise reduction is quite amazing too
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If you record to your Android phone, can you monitor the recording (in realtime) using a bluetooth headset paired to the phone?
Not sure, I don’t have an android phone. Shure support could confirm.
Would you say that if I use the DJI Mic 2 with a lavalier (DJI one), that the sound get a lot better? Is the Rode do better sound with a lav mic?
The DJI does sound better to my ears with their external lavalier, versus with the built-in mic.
Great review! Can I use these with Filmic Pro app on my iPhone? Thank you.
With the receiver, yes, but not without the receiver.
another awesome video! You just made me spend some $$$
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Can you use the MoveMic for calls in MS teams in your phone? I've read somewhere that the microphone detection in different apps in the phone is app dependent, so not sure. Thanks in advance!
AFAIK only if you use the receiver.
@@curtisjuddThanks a lot for your answer. I settled for a Sony ECM-LV1 for my use case for the moment (just to be heard a bit better on calls while on the road).
So there is no direct connection to the phone that'll allow you to use other apps like Filmic Pro??
Only if you use the receiver.
@@curtisjudd hey Curtis, weird question. Do you think it’s a bad idea to put a 6060 on the rode wireless pro?
@@DanLiveOnUTube Not necessarily a bad idea, but I haven't tested it (I don't have a 6060 with 3.5mm termination on hand).
When shooting video, it appears that one has to use the Shure video app to record audio direct to the phone. The question is whether that's true if Shure's receiver is used. This question is of interest to people who want to use, for example, Apple's native camera app or Blackmagic Camera.
When using the receiver, it doesn't require the Shure app. Only if going direct to phone. But you can still manage the mic settings via the app when using the receiver to route audio to another app
With the receiver, you can use any app on iOS.
@@curtisjudd Thanks, that's my understanding. For people who have a preferred video app, I think that this is an important distinction. There are reasons to use the Shure app even if the receiver is needed for some projects that require the updates that came with iPhone 15.
Можно ли в приложении MotivVideo подключить по блютус MoveMic и одновременно по USB MV88+ и вести запись с двух микрофонов на два канала?
I don’t think so but confirm with SHURE support.
hmmm the size is super nice! if there would be a white version it would be amazing for weddings
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Hi Curtis. I do know that this may not be an appropriate comparison, but how does the Shure noise canceling option compare to SD's Mixpre offering? BTW I purchased your MixPre course almost immediately after buying the Mixpre, it is invaluable for someone like me, who is new to this business!
The MixPre's NoiseAssist is quite a bit better than the SHURE noise reduction.
@@curtisjudd thank you!
This is the best review around. Can I use Shure MoveMic app direct to TikTok?
With the receiver, yes
Is this 2.4gHz? Will interference be a problem in urban environments?
It is 2.4GHz just like the RODE and DJI.
@@curtisjudd thank you. Are you concerned about this? Or will you just stick with theos, and leave this to the consumer customers?
@@charleshoughton for paid work, I use Sound Devices wireless.
I just bought these without the receiver - they connect fine with the MotivVideo App and sound great outside with fuzzy topper for wind BUT the app must be used for the video recording and is Heating up my iPhone 11 Pro super high and drains the battery fairly quickly. Anyone else having these issues? Does anyone happen to know if the receiver help alleviate this issue or any other suggestions to alleviate?
Are you filming for long periods of time? I used and iPhone 14 Pro Max and did not notice my phone heating up, but I never recorded for more than about 15 minutes at a time.
Можно ли в приложении MotivVideo подключить по блютус MoveMic и одновременно по USB MV88+ и вести запись с двух микрофонов на два канала?
I find the fur cover on the DJI is the softest. Seriously. Silky. Maybe not a reason to buy it, but nice.
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I cover motorsports events and the Rode Wireless Pro has been a no fuss solution for over 1000 track-side interviews in every type of weather and dirty environment you can think of. We use it with weatherproof lavs, which allows us to keep the transmitters tucked away out of the elements. That has certainly helped their longevity, but it’s also just high quality hardware to begin with. We’ve never had a single recording hiccup, no broken files, no loss of time code, etc.
In the same time period that we’ve been been using the Rodes, we’ve had multiple unprompted internal hardware failures in our DJI drones and gimbals (and our Sony cameras, switched to Canon and had no issues since). DJI has no peers when it comes to those two product categories so we’re stuck with them, but I wouldn’t trust their gear for things like mics and action cameras when there’s viable alternatives on the market.
All that being said, these Shure wireless mics seem like an excellent choice for the prosumer/TH-camr that has the luxury of controlling their recording environment and doing multiple takes if something goes wrong.
I have the Shure MV7 at my desk for voiceover work and I’ve been absolutely blown away by their settings software. It’s the perfect balance of providing all the features you need without being overly complicated, and each switch/slider in the app provides high quality results. I prefer the output from the built-in compressor and filters in the app over the Adobe apps we use in post.
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Sounds like you don't care for the Osmo Pocket 3?
Never used it, so I don't have an opinion one way or the other. I don't really vlog, so I'm not really in a good position to use or review cameras like that.
I just got it from Amazon. Mainly to use with iphone. I’m bummed that I have to use the Shure app for video, rather than being able to have the mic connected to the phone and just use the phone camera. I have to buy the receiver if I want to use the native iphone camera with the mics. Don’t like that.
That’s an iPhone limitation. Yes, a bummer
I found the shure was a little nasal soundimg. The rhode seemed a little better balanced. Just my opinion. All other points are in agreement.
The Shure does not have a backup recording in the tx, which is a bit of a tradeoff with wireless
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Excellent review. Definitely has the best audio. But...The pathetic windmuff is downright criminal. Especially for a wireless setup where it's going to be used outside! I'm a beginner with a Fulaim X5 and have never had any trouble with wind noise with its deadcat.
You can add a fur cover, but you have to supply it yourself.
@@curtisjudd Yes that's a solution, but it's pathetic to put out a product with such a glaring flaw!
@@curtisjudd Would it not be enough with the small wind protection and clipping it on the inside of shirt for example?
@@ManuelParodiRamos Possibly, though there's more risk of picking up clothing rustle and acoustically designed fur covers may also keep the mic sounding more "open" rather than muffled.
@@curtisjudd I guess rycote stickies and undercovers are as good a place to start as any. Thanks!
I don't really have a need or an opinion on this gear. I use pocket recorders and just am not a wireless guy, unless the wireless system uses all user replaceable batts. Cheers.
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Sibilance is similar to the SM58, it's unbearable without processing
On my voice, yes
I, too, think the Shure sounds best and , as a bonus, the Motiv app is accessibly designed whereas the Rode is not.
Good point on accessibility.
Curtis, your voice sounds great with the Movemic, but your wife, not so good. It's astonishing the difference in quality between your voice and hers with this system.
Every mic/voice combination is different. Good job recognizing that!
The real winnner here is the C70 preamps 😂
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What a shame - no internal recording on the transmitters. That makes it a no-no for me, so I stopped watching here at 3:30 .
While it has no internal recording, it sounds far better than the DJI Mic 2.
A bad sounding mic with internal recording is still a bad sounding mic.
If internal recording is critical for your workflow, then the SHURE is not for you. For those who prefer in-built processing? The SHURE is a good option.
Internal recording is overrated - they drift over time and you have multiple record sources - so good luck syncing that on a long interview. Almost better to take the bad version which was transmitted than sync 2 onboard versions
@@MachineLearningStreetTalk Nonsense. If there is a wireless drop-out you lose audio,, and that segment of drop-out can be retrieved from the internal recording and inserted. The internal recording is a safety track , not just to sync it in timecode. If you tried to do any recording with wireless at these frequencies in a crowded location you would realise this.
@@Tom_Roberts Yes I agree they are useful as a backup and last resort - great for gap filling in the scenario you described, but on long local only recordings you would need to manually align (tedious as they drift fast) and only play one channel at a time (comb filtering). I'm well aware of the wireless glitches on the DJIs, I have both versions - the second generation is dramatically better as it happens.
Would def say the Hollyland m2 is smaller and way better sounding. ✌️
Have you tried both?
Smallest? No! Hollyland Lark M2 is
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"On loan from Shure"? That's pretty poor from Shure to be honest, they couldn't afford to send you the gear for free and you get to keep it?
Great review either way! It's just a shame they're making you send the gear back...
I’m ok with it. I don’t need it.
Continue to be disappointed in the sound quality of the DJI Mic 2. A bad sounding mic that has 32 bit float and internal recording is still a bad sounding mic. - Another good review Curtis.
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It sounded bad didn't it - I assume because the noise control turned on, which you should never do
@MachineLearningStreetTalk noise reduction was off.
Noise reduction when talking sounds very robotic.
Yes, especially when the noise is louder.
The one question that everyone wants to know: Have you figured out why two and two is four yet?
Ask Sherlock Holmes. 😉
For the price, it should have 32 bit lol
I'd rather have a mic that sounds better than 32-bit float.
If only it could record 32bit
Perhaps. I find it interesting that so many people don’t want to or don’t feel confident setting gain.
@@curtisjudd I'm not sure people even understand 32 bit. They just know it's possible, and have their own opinion on why it's important, so all devices will NEED to have it, otherwise...
@@curtisjudd i had many instances especially at events when interviewing people an all of a sudden either super loud laughing, or sound checks or something comes along and then i really need either a good limiter or 32bit float. I am okay with 24bit if there is a limiter i can trust. Repairing clipped signal is not that hard with izotope but it is simply more work.
I find that in many of those cases, that part gets cut - we don't usually keep coughs or sound checks that would make the dialogue un-hearable. So no need to recover that.
Laughs, especially multiple people laughing at the same time, on the other hand....
@@ovidiu.gramesc Good point. And also, the marketing people and influencers have done a good job convincing people that they need it. In reality, it is important to understand when it can be useful and when it does not make things better.
*I have to give out a warning to folks who have a DJI Mic 2. The Mic 2 works perfectly, but be warned, the device is super tiny and disappears in the hand ! The Mic 2 also has a super smooth plastic surface, which is really easy to lose your grip on and drop ! Due to its tiny size, the DJI Mic 2 is also easy to lose on shoots !*
Thanks.
This review goes 100% against the conclusions of the review by Fstoppers....... Stay away from Shure was the conclusion. And it does not have internal recording....
And, drum sound, the price of the Shure can be DOUBLE compared to the competition. So watch other reviews
Perspective drives the difference. I covered the fact that it doesn’t have internal recording which is fine, especially when the use case is live-streaming.
With all due respect to Fstoppers for the many helpful reviews they post, I don’t have the impression they understand sound recording all that well. I also wonder if Fstoppers had a damaged or defective unit.
It would be a possibility. When FStoppers was reviewing the DJI Mic is also was a defective unit. So take that for what it is.
FStoppers experience is of course photography and not so much audio recordings. And i do trust Curtis's experience. I just found it too much deviating from that review. I hope others will review the MoveMic. It would be a shame if Shure would not live up to their quality standards....
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@@RobSpiv That'd be neat, but would make it hard to keep the transmitter so small.
@@DoItForMeSolutions Yes, that'd be nice. 👍