THANK YOU for not just playing antiquated blues licks and overused classic rock style playing in this. It’s good to see diversity in how a pedal sounds for different kinds of music.
@@skaboosh why are you quoting “even”?😂 he never said that word and second that’s the entire reason he’s thanking them, cause they didn’t use that style. Are you okay?
Andy is one of my favorite players of all time. Never thought I'd say that about a guy who does demos. Greg Koch and Pete Thorn are also aces. Kudos to Andy for being the best demo guy in the world.
43 years and I finally got a Rat. So many sounds in that pedal. I'm loving playing with it. It's rare you can get a low gain sound out of a high gain pedal.
punk? Personally I want to get close to the sound Life sentence had from Chicago back in 86. I elaborated on where they were from because it’s hard to find their songs since they weren’t a big band. My favorite song from them is peacetime death.
This was also my very first distortion pedal. Bought it off a friend in 9th grade for $20 in 2001. The best distortion pedal I've ever used. Nothing comes close. Still use it to this day.
Andy has the calm, understated demeanor of the cool highschool English teacher that you found out absolutely rips at guitar. I've been watching Andy review stuff since I was in highschool myself, and he ALWAYS does a killer job getting great tones and really showcasing what a pedal is best at. Plus his playing style is so unique! Proof that you don't need to shred to be an outstanding guitarist.
Ah shit the Rat. Hands down the greatest IC Distortion made, and honestly my first love. This pedal is perfect, especially the Rat 2 98’ and previous, so much cut and with all the ones I’ve had with some drifting you can get some hot fire gems. The Reissue is the same circuit as the WF and OG Black Rat which is softer but sounds damn amazing through a bright JMP. Rats are love, Rats are life.
An old coworker of mine said that every guitar player must go through a rite of passage. That is when they buy a TS9, sell their TS9, and then buy another TS9 because they feel like a “dumb chode” (his exact words) for selling it. I think the same applies to the Rat, because I sold mine and feel like a “dumb chode” for doing so.
No matter what you play through (or with), you have one of the best tones I've ever heard! Your a truly amazing player! And this pedals cool to! ;) Thank you for yet another stellar vid Andy!!! :-)
Vigie Rivera I know this too well.. I was about to pass up buying a 1988 rat2 for $50 but then I saw this and was like.. fuck.. if Andy has one I should have one
I just picked up a Rat2. I think it is fantastic, especially for the money. It plays really nicely with my vintage Mesa Subway Blues. While the amp can do a nice Fenderish clean, the way the circuit is designed with the EL-84 output tubes being asymmetrically driven by the preamp makes the distorted sound really lush, with lots of lovely overtones. The combo has none of that hard edge nastiness you can get running a hard clip pedal into a Fender. This is classic rock crunch. Perfect lead tone w/ distortion cranked. Sustain for days. It turns my little single channel amp into a rock monster. If I want 'edge of breakup' at low volume, I can use my Fulltone F2 I don't like the Fulltone pushed hard, but as clean boost it's great. I'm just a hobby guitar player, but I ran pro FoH sound for over a decade. I think it's important to find a distortion pedal and amp that work together. In other words, just because a pedal doesn't work with you amp, doesn't make it a bad pedal. You have to use your ears and test gear in your setup. I used to search for used pedal bargains (and still might by if something cool and really cheap) but now I tend to buy new, just to know I can return with no hassle if thing don't work out. (I got a cheap volume pedal from GC recently. Well cheap for a reason, it has no usable 'sweep'......seems like off or on) It goes back tomorrow. Time to pony up for a Morley, or Vox, or Mission, etc. You usually get what you pay for. But....with the Rat, if you have right amp, you get more.
Hey you mentioned playing though a solid state amp with a RAT! That;'s what I did back in the day.... bought a RAT about 1984 or so, not sure if that would make it a Ver 2 or not but it didn't have the little Red LED light... I put it through a H/H 100 watt solid state amp....It gave the H/H a nice thump to it...
Yes! I have a 1988 Rat 2 on my board (dated from the pots) sitting next to an original Marshall Guv’nor. Distortion/Hi gain sounds covered! Thanks Andy. Great, accurate review of a sometimes overlooked classic. Cheers.
I'd get some sort of TS style circuit and Klon style circuit on the board and you've got the gamut covered, my friend. Using them to boost either the Rat or Guv'nor would sound awesome, not to mention they sound great by themselves as well.
I have a original Guv'Nor as well! 70' s Thomas Conn Crybaby Wah-Keeley Java Boost then Guv'Nor, EVH Phase- 71/72 Echoplex EP-3 into 78 Marshall JMP 50 watt head and 71 cab! My retro rig!
AndyDemos aaaaandddddyyyyy... do you even freakin' realize that you're a hero for some of us, new generation bedroom guitarist staring at their youtube screen??? Not only giving tone tips by demoing pedals, you also teach us many songs
Andy, you make some of the best straight forward videos, thank you for all you bring to the community!!! Cheers brother! And just my two cents, the way you play without a pick is always impressive man :) keep up the awesome vibes!
It was my first Distortion pedal bought from a store in Denmark Street in London (Circa 1989), and I was able to colour my guitar tones, immediately, and I veered away from other distortions because they all sounded less than. The Marshall Guvnor was my other noise pedal. which had more controls, I've grown to like it, but still the go to is the 80's Pro Co Ratt 2
My first distortion pedal when I was 17.. Rat, 65 Deluxe Reverb and a MIJ White 70's reissue Strat. Been through a few over the years and never go without one. The true Desert Island pedal.
Yeah, the high-gain sponge is cool. It reminds me a bit of the sponge you get from amps with tube rectifiers, especially when you don't remove any low end prior to distortion. To me, the magic of the RAT is that the op-amp clips on its power rails long before hitting the hard clipping diodes, so it can take advantage of that rolloff in high end as gain is increased (gain-bandwidth product of the op-amp) and allow for that sponge (slew rate and recovery time from hitting the rails).
I remember when they came out everyone in the NYC punk,hardcore and metal scene switched to one... very rock n roll, never too much bass filtering through to muddy stuff up, but it needed another pedal to boost it, a common combination was the yellow Turbo Overdrive pedal.. I had a couple of buddies using that combination with a LP and Marshall.. classic 80’s metalcore crunch...
Andy rules! I really dig these vintage episodes - Andy is coaxing some awesome (and conspicuously non-boutique) tones out of these pedals. Can we vote to hear Andy on a Boss Metal Zone, MXR Dist+ or maybe an old EHX DMM?
I play the reissue through a jc40 and I’ve got say it’s just insane how good it sounds I use a orange rockerverb for distorted sounds usually but to my ear there’s not a lot in it
Nice , i like your style too. When I picked the guitar up again after a decades long hiatus , I couldn't get the tone i wanted. I went from a Danelectro Cool Cat Distortion to a DS-1 then my brother gave me an EH Metal Muff but it still lacked the crunchiness I was after. I got the Blackstar HT Dual Distortion a few months ago because I watched a video Gus G and his tone was nearly spot on for my taste. Not sure what it was but I'm still on the hunt. Im learning how to build effects now and maybe one day I'll DIY on a tube amp but the Rat and the MXR are two that are definitely on my list of potentials. Thanks for the video. It was helpful.
The bass player of my band from 89 to 92 had this pedal and I started using it with my 78 all tube Peavy 4x10 Vintage which I used to power two Hiwatt 4x12 cabs. I also used it powering the same two cabs with a 50 watt Marshall head too. To this day, my bass player says it was the best sound I had. I was using an 89 Strat (that I still have) so the thick distortion really helped fatten-up the single coil pickups so they didn't sound thin at all. My tone was considered quite heavy even with the single coils. I've been using rackmount gear, but plan to get this pedal again when I restore the vintage tube amp that I also still have.
One of the coolest guitar sounds I heard in the 80's was my friends old stereo, I think a radio shack wired to a 15 Speaker, It had awesome fuzz from clipping. I would compare it to the innagattadavita fuzz tone.
All the distortion and OD pedals I've accumulated over the decades, the Trusty Rat always winds up back on the board.. It just does so much, it is a very versatile pedal for most applications. I'll Sometimes run my Bjfe Honey Bee in front of it for a little frattyness.
Throw a IC socket in place of the OP07 and install a LM308, youll love it if you like this tone. The original Rats "glitchy" nature is due to the LM308's poor slew rate. Makes a big difference and you can switch it back an forth between the LM308 an the OP07 easily if you install a IC socket first. Just a recommendation, i did it with mine and immediately got rid of the thin bright sounding OP07.
@@shawnmann Sure but theres probably a few people who could do it for you who live near you. Where do you live? That or i could walk you through the process a little more in depth for free.
I bought one of these today I'm sending it back it's just too busy and fizzy for me it's got way too much high-end even with the filter control turn down, I just can't seem to get any kind of sounds that I've seen any demos I've heard sound better over the phone, and that's a little odd I don't know if it was broke or what but when I turned the filter control way down I started something on it it would start knocking the volume of my amp down the sound will start cutting out. I don't know if I got a lemon or what but this is just not what I was expecting I've got an mxr super badass and the mxr3 distortion and I tried the route with those pedals and all combinations. I try to use it to boost leads, I tried to use it as a boost pedal it just didn't work for me for anything. One thing I thought was odd the box that it came in did not see proco on it, it also did not have any of the ads or paperwork that was listed on Amazon. No I've been playing guitar for 35 years and I don't need instructions on how to use a distortion box but I just thought it was odd that the procoup paperwork with the suggested settings was not in the box.
Andy you're the man and it's great that you're on Reverb, but can you keep saying "Hi this is Andy from Pro Guitar shop" just to keep it vintage acurate? Thanks
Bought one in late ‘85 or early ‘86 and still use it. I also had a Turbo Rat at one point, and for awhile preferred it. But in the end I came back around. Love the cocked wah-ish sounds you can get by cranking the Distortion and backing off the guitar’s volume.
punk? Personally I want to get close to the sound Life sentence had from Chicago back in 86. I elaborated on where they were from because it’s hard to find their songs since they weren’t a big band. My favorite song from them is peacetime death.
How are you getting such tight low end here??? Ive modded my Proco rat 2 by putting in an IC socket and an LM308N in it. And put and on off on switch to remove R6 in one position(ruetz mod), replace it in another and in the last position use a 100ohm resistor instead. I really am starting to enjoy the tones im getting from it now but the low end is always pretty "squishey" lol for lack of a better term if the gain is past about 10 o clock in the stock position. Its like the sound you get from dialing the resonance control up too high on a Marshall. But in this video the sound is focused and tight and sounds symmetrical, very musical. I could be completely off but my best guess is its the les paul your playing and its vintage output pups? Im using a JB/59 set that i have wired for coils splitting on both. Id love to know how you got the tone here so i can work towards getting it myself. I can built my own pedals etc. and id love to get the sound outta my rat you had here. Maybe the trick is lesser output humbuckers and really working the volume/tone controls? I know you have your own style and dont normally if ever use a pick but id think if anything finger picking would lead to less articulation in this situatiuon? Anyways, again great tone!
I have one of these(1988 woodcutter) I modded the shite out of years ago and just looked those up on reverb and almost cried because they command decent tube combo level money.
I have an 80s Rat that I bought new at the time and I've come back to using it as my lead tone. Great sound. Mine seems to have more output than Andy's. I don't see any reason to increase the output on mine. The one difficulty I have is that it react to the volume knobs on my guitars way differently than clean or an overdrive pedal, so sometimes it's hard to balance the sound. That's probably just in the nature of it having a lot more gain.
I use a rat 2 from ‘93 (it’s got an lm308n chip) and I use it to nail the early melvins sound. i got a video on my channel of my attempt at capturing the tone on Lysol by the Melvins
Interesting review. I currently have a Rat 2, not sure the age (it has sloping sides, if that tells anything). This 8s probably my 4th “distortion” pedal, and I can’t seem to find one I like. This Rat seems to have too much midrange, along with being very bright. I don’t like mid range and I wish I could pull more low end out of. On either side, though, I have a Klon Klone (OD) in front of the Rat and a JHS Muffeletta (Fuzz) after. I love both of those pedals a great deal. I should also point out that I only play at home, these days, and have sold my bigger Fender And Vox amplifiers. I now play thru a 1965 original blackface Fender Champ tube amp, which I’ve had for 20-something years and dearly love. While that is a small amp, and I’m aware some pedals work very differently depending on the amp, it gets plenty loud and sounds great with all my other pedals. Any thoughts, Rat Fans? Maybe I still haven’t found what I’m looking for (sorry 🤣) or I else All distortions have similar tonal characteristics, so I need to live with it.
I have it emulated on my amp and find it to have a very singing lead tone. I did something different on mine. I find that if you have the gain all the way up and the volume around 1, you have almost a "Clean distortion" where it is more of a saturation rather than just a dominating effect. You add that with a slap back delay and you have almost one version of the David Gilmour tone. I tend to like note clarity even on an overdriven channel where you can still hear every note in a chord.
THANK YOU for not just playing antiquated blues licks and overused classic rock style playing in this. It’s good to see diversity in how a pedal sounds for different kinds of music.
he didn't "even" play antiquated blues licks
@@skaboosh why are you quoting “even”?😂 he never said that word and second that’s the entire reason he’s thanking them, cause they didn’t use that style. Are you okay?
Andy has always been a tasteful player
@@skaboosh go wipe your butt
Andy is one of my favorite players of all time. Never thought I'd say that about a guy who does demos. Greg Koch and Pete Thorn are also aces. Kudos to Andy for being the best demo guy in the world.
43 years and I finally got a Rat. So many sounds in that pedal. I'm loving playing with it. It's rare you can get a low gain sound out of a high gain pedal.
punk? Personally I want to get close to the sound Life sentence had from Chicago back in 86. I elaborated on where they were from because it’s hard to find their songs since they weren’t a big band. My favorite song from them is peacetime death.
I love andys style, and the fact he uses a invisible pick
Sounds better than most high gain boutique pedals 🙌🏻
sounds like shit
Vanguard wrong
Haha “Vangaurd Wrong”
Agreed but I still think the walrus audio iron horse sound better
Vanguard - you seem bitter that you spent a grand on your pedalboard but it didn't make you play any better
Andy does the absolute best demos on the web hands down. Good call bringing him onboard Reverb!
Andy and a RAT, it's just like when Pacino met De Niro in Heat. It's perfect, and it makes perfectly sense.
Not a great movie. Not a great pedal. Don't buy a Rat. You will be disappointed.
That is an excellent movie. That's A nice comparison.
Vic and his Ferrari probably plays Nirvana covers through his Boss distortion pedal
@@declankelly8964 Thank you my dear.
@@vicferrari89 Heat is one of the greatest movies of all time
Just at the point where I thought "didn't Graham Coxon rely on the Rat for a lot of his tone?" you came in with a nice slice of Mr Robinsons Quango! 👌
I gave mine to my then 20 year old son. He's had it for six years now and loves it.
This was also my very first distortion pedal. Bought it off a friend in 9th grade for $20 in 2001. The best distortion pedal I've ever used. Nothing comes close. Still use it to this day.
Andy has the calm, understated demeanor of the cool highschool English teacher that you found out absolutely rips at guitar.
I've been watching Andy review stuff since I was in highschool myself, and he ALWAYS does a killer job getting great tones and really showcasing what a pedal is best at. Plus his playing style is so unique! Proof that you don't need to shred to be an outstanding guitarist.
Ah shit the Rat. Hands down the greatest IC Distortion made, and honestly my first love. This pedal is perfect, especially the Rat 2 98’ and previous, so much cut and with all the ones I’ve had with some drifting you can get some hot fire gems. The Reissue is the same circuit as the WF and OG Black Rat which is softer but sounds damn amazing through a bright JMP. Rats are love, Rats are life.
An old coworker of mine said that every guitar player must go through a rite of passage. That is when they buy a TS9, sell their TS9, and then buy another TS9 because they feel like a “dumb chode” (his exact words) for selling it.
I think the same applies to the Rat, because I sold mine and feel like a “dumb chode” for doing so.
I had fallen out of love with the rat.. I think I finally like it again. damn you andy
No matter what you play through (or with), you have one of the best tones I've ever heard! Your a truly amazing player! And this pedals cool to! ;) Thank you for yet another stellar vid Andy!!! :-)
Holy S*%& man! When he plugged in that Tele, I nearly fell of my chair!
Man every time I play my Rat I'm reminded how awesome it is. This is such a great showcase of it. Great video!
was about to sell my turbo rat until i saw this. well you know what they say "if its good enough for andy, its good enough for me"
Vigie Rivera I know this too well.. I was about to pass up buying a 1988 rat2 for $50 but then I saw this and was like.. fuck.. if Andy has one I should have one
or maybe learn to think for yourself...
N P that’s an insanely good deal
@@sonictitan5604 what brand shoes are you wearing? OR hey, Yer typing English! That’s cultural appropriation!
@@peterwelsh1932 👍
I just picked up a Rat2. I think it is fantastic, especially for the money. It plays really nicely with my vintage Mesa Subway Blues. While the amp can do a nice Fenderish clean, the way the circuit is designed with the EL-84 output tubes being asymmetrically driven by the preamp makes the distorted sound really lush, with lots of lovely overtones. The combo has none of that hard edge nastiness you can get running a hard clip pedal into a Fender.
This is classic rock crunch. Perfect lead tone w/ distortion cranked. Sustain for days. It turns my little single channel amp into a rock monster. If I want 'edge of breakup' at low volume, I can use my Fulltone F2 I don't like the Fulltone pushed hard, but as clean boost it's great.
I'm just a hobby guitar player, but I ran pro FoH sound for over a decade. I think it's important to find a distortion pedal and amp that work together. In other words, just because a pedal doesn't work with you amp, doesn't make it a bad pedal. You have to use your ears and test gear in your setup. I used to search for used pedal bargains (and still might by if something cool and really cheap) but now I tend to buy new, just to know I can return with no hassle if thing don't work out. (I got a cheap volume pedal from GC recently. Well cheap for a reason, it has no usable 'sweep'......seems like off or on) It goes back tomorrow. Time to pony up for a Morley, or Vox, or Mission, etc. You usually get what you pay for. But....with the Rat, if you have right amp, you get more.
I love it when andy gives that little smile like "soooooo yeah that's nice"
This man was doing pedal demos in the womb. Always leaves us wanting for more ❤
Finally.. I was waiting for your "first pedal ever" 😀
I own a ProCo Turbo Rat from 1989 (with LM308 chip), it's my main distortion and it nails the early Foo Fighters sound. Great pedal.
The sound of skipping class to smoke dope behind the high school gymnasium for three entire decades worth of reprobates.
feel you bro
Swine Horde best comment haha
Swine Horde excellent, yes.
Absolutely... let’s go!
@@oinkooink No, the west is failing because the young are socialists
This is the best sounding demo you've ever made! Sounds so thick !
What an amazing guitar player is Andy.
Hes ok, not great
He's great @@anthonydavella8350
Hey you mentioned playing though a solid state amp with a RAT! That;'s what I did back in the day.... bought a RAT about 1984 or so, not sure if that would make it a Ver 2 or not but it didn't have the little Red LED light... I put it through a H/H 100 watt solid state amp....It gave the H/H a nice thump to it...
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong....think I read somewhere the rat 2 came out in 1987 or 88. The first rat debuted in 1979.
Also sounds great on bass guitar - it saps some of the low frequencies but for a dirty Stoner / Doom sound it's perfect.
Yes!
I have a 1988 Rat 2 on my board (dated from the pots) sitting next to an original Marshall Guv’nor. Distortion/Hi gain sounds covered!
Thanks Andy. Great, accurate review of a sometimes overlooked classic. Cheers.
I'd get some sort of TS style circuit and Klon style circuit on the board and you've got the gamut covered, my friend. Using them to boost either the Rat or Guv'nor would sound awesome, not to mention they sound great by themselves as well.
I have a original Guv'Nor as well! 70' s Thomas Conn Crybaby Wah-Keeley Java Boost then Guv'Nor, EVH Phase- 71/72 Echoplex EP-3 into 78 Marshall JMP 50 watt head and 71 cab! My retro rig!
Is the black background on vacation?
sunlounger29 he's at the reverb office I think
This is my home studio, I wanted to change up the set for these vintage demos.
He forgot to ring the gong?
AndyDemos aaaaandddddyyyyy... do you even freakin' realize that you're a hero for some of us, new generation bedroom guitarist staring at their youtube screen??? Not only giving tone tips by demoing pedals, you also teach us many songs
Good thinking as those vintage demos have a more personal touch to them.
I bought a Vintage Rat new in the late 90s. Didn’t use it much but when I dug it out a few years ago, I realised it was just epically good.
Andy, you make some of the best straight forward videos, thank you for all you bring to the community!!! Cheers brother! And just my two cents, the way you play without a pick is always impressive man :) keep up the awesome vibes!
It was my first Distortion pedal bought from a store in Denmark Street in London (Circa 1989), and I was able to colour my guitar tones, immediately, and I veered away from other distortions because they all sounded less than. The Marshall Guvnor was my other noise pedal. which had more controls, I've grown to like it, but still the go to is the 80's Pro Co Ratt 2
My first distortion pedal when I was 17..
Rat, 65 Deluxe Reverb and a MIJ White 70's reissue Strat.
Been through a few over the years and never go without one.
The true Desert Island pedal.
Yeah, the high-gain sponge is cool. It reminds me a bit of the sponge you get from amps with tube rectifiers, especially when you don't remove any low end prior to distortion. To me, the magic of the RAT is that the op-amp clips on its power rails long before hitting the hard clipping diodes, so it can take advantage of that rolloff in high end as gain is increased (gain-bandwidth product of the op-amp) and allow for that sponge (slew rate and recovery time from hitting the rails).
I didn't understand what any of what you said but I agree
I remember when they came out everyone in the NYC punk,hardcore and metal scene switched to one... very rock n roll, never too much bass filtering through to muddy stuff up, but it needed another pedal to boost it, a common combination was the yellow Turbo Overdrive pedal.. I had a couple of buddies using that combination with a LP and Marshall..
classic 80’s metalcore crunch...
Gain at 9 o’clock and give it a clean boost with a ts9. Sounds amazing through my vox ac30 and Gibson studio.
Andy rules! I really dig these vintage episodes - Andy is coaxing some awesome (and conspicuously non-boutique) tones out of these pedals.
Can we vote to hear Andy on a Boss Metal Zone, MXR Dist+ or maybe an old EHX DMM?
HM-2! The mightiest of mighty metal pedals.
I've got a 1989 Rat 2 and it sounds huuuuge. Became my favorite pedal ever.
My favorite distortion/ drive/ fuzz pedal, but the octave fuzz is pretty great too voodoo labs proctavia awesome. But nothing beats the vintage RAT !
I'm enjoying the more Andy stories and insights than in the old PGS days. #moreandy
Pro Co Rat was my first distortion pedal. Used it to push my Laney 100 watt.
Andy and his disappearing guitar picks
Dude I think he does fingerstyle! He’s crazy good
no really, where the heck does the pick go?
He plays with fingers only. He explains it more in-depth here:
th-cam.com/video/sf24m4xF-Ro/w-d-xo.html
@@MrValBar2 r/wooosh
That's the best sounding dirt pedal I have ever heard! Honestly!
I play the reissue through a jc40 and I’ve got say it’s just insane how good it sounds I use a orange rockerverb for distorted sounds usually but to my ear there’s not a lot in it
Nice , i like your style too. When I picked the guitar up again after a decades long hiatus , I couldn't get the tone i wanted. I went from a Danelectro Cool Cat Distortion to a DS-1 then my brother gave me an EH Metal Muff but it still lacked the crunchiness I was after. I got the Blackstar HT Dual Distortion a few months ago because I watched a video Gus G and his tone was nearly spot on for my taste. Not sure what it was but I'm still on the hunt. Im learning how to build effects now and maybe one day I'll DIY on a tube amp but the Rat and the MXR are two that are definitely on my list of potentials. Thanks for the video. It was helpful.
The bass player of my band from 89 to 92 had this pedal and I started using it with my 78 all tube Peavy 4x10 Vintage which I used to power two Hiwatt 4x12 cabs. I also used it powering the same two cabs with a 50 watt Marshall head too. To this day, my bass player says it was the best sound I had.
I was using an 89 Strat (that I still have) so the thick distortion really helped fatten-up the single coil pickups so they didn't sound thin at all. My tone was considered quite heavy even with the single coils. I've been using rackmount gear, but plan to get this pedal again when I restore the vintage tube amp that I also still have.
I think the bass player in Dinosaur Jr. has a similar amp setup with the old school Peavy amp head. Check out their Ron Rundown.
Woah I didn't expect Blur's M Robinson's Quango to be in this video. I absolutely love the guitar on that track.
Damn what a demo, Andy played incredibly, definitely getting this pedal!
Man what a demo. Great playing.
It seems that Andy's favourite album is The Great Escape.
The best thing about these Reverb videos is that little Data action figure.
I got one from 1989 on my board. Thing is a beast!
How can you not LOVE Andy?! What a champ!
Awesome review. one of the best ive ever seen for a dirt pedal =)
These vids are great, thank you Andy!
My main distortion is a Rat2 and I love it!
1. Gotta ask; how long have you had the Hagstrom on the wall?(Sounds great in other vidz). 2.Is that Data on the counter?
bgmnzz i think the hag burst is a 2006 .Andy loves star trek II
This pedal sounds insane if you boost it and tone-shape it with an overdrive like the ts9!
Had one, sold it. Still.miss it. One of the three.pieces of gear I wish I still had.
Always good to see classic pedal videos.
Have an 88 for sale
Legendary pedal.
Love this new segment. I set my BF 2 to the vibe like setting after the flange one and added it to my mini berd.
pulls out the tele and goes straight to playing blur. epic lol
Andy could plug his guitar into a coconut and make it sound great. Love his demos!!
One of the coolest guitar sounds I heard in the 80's was my friends old stereo, I think a radio shack wired to a 15 Speaker, It had awesome fuzz from clipping. I would compare it to the innagattadavita fuzz tone.
All the distortion and OD pedals I've accumulated over the decades, the Trusty Rat always winds up back on the board..
It just does so much, it is a very versatile pedal for most applications.
I'll Sometimes run my Bjfe Honey Bee in front of it for a little frattyness.
5:25 Mr. Robinson's Quango - Nice!
It seems to do well with open chords, and string definition.
Excellent vid, got to ask what that lap steel type guitar with the coloured frets is though? Looks awesome!
Got about 15 distortion/overdrive pedals...always come back to the RAT
I already have a Rat2, so I won't rush out and buy this pedal like I did with the bf2
Except now you need a Turbo Rat to use as a boost in front of the Rat2.
Throw a IC socket in place of the OP07 and install a LM308, youll love it if you like this tone. The original Rats "glitchy" nature is due to the LM308's poor slew rate. Makes a big difference and you can switch it back an forth between the LM308 an the OP07 easily if you install a IC socket first. Just a recommendation, i did it with mine and immediately got rid of the thin bright sounding OP07.
Michael Inglis could I pay you for this service?
@@shawnmann Sure but theres probably a few people who could do it for you who live near you. Where do you live? That or i could walk you through the process a little more in depth for free.
Michael Inglis I live in WA State (Wenatchee right now). I’m definitely game for a free education!
Graham Coxon riff = 1 like!
I think I just realized Andy reminds me of Mark Lynn Baker from Perfect Strangers
"Sometimes the tone sounds perfect; nothing you'd rearrange. Sometimes you just, get a feeling like you NEED TO ADD SOME GAAAIIIIINN!"
Doan be reedigulous
I just got one from 1989. Sounds incredible
I have one. It gets a really great Hendrix tone, stacking it with an OD doesn’t hurt either. c:
Any song in particular?
Love the new set. The vintage series very cool.
I bought one of these today I'm sending it back it's just too busy and fizzy for me it's got way too much high-end even with the filter control turn down, I just can't seem to get any kind of sounds that I've seen any demos I've heard sound better over the phone, and that's a little odd I don't know if it was broke or what but when I turned the filter control way down I started something on it it would start knocking the volume of my amp down the sound will start cutting out. I don't know if I got a lemon or what but this is just not what I was expecting I've got an mxr super badass and the mxr3 distortion and I tried the route with those pedals and all combinations. I try to use it to boost leads, I tried to use it as a boost pedal it just didn't work for me for anything.
One thing I thought was odd the box that it came in did not see proco on it, it also did not have any of the ads or paperwork that was listed on Amazon. No I've been playing guitar for 35 years and I don't need instructions on how to use a distortion box but I just thought it was odd that the procoup paperwork with the suggested settings was not in the box.
that old LesPaul standard still rocks
Andy you're the man and it's great that you're on Reverb, but can you keep saying "Hi this is Andy from Pro Guitar shop" just to keep it vintage acurate? Thanks
Best ProCo review ever
Bought one in late ‘85 or early ‘86 and still use it. I also had a Turbo Rat at one point, and for awhile preferred it. But in the end I came back around. Love the cocked wah-ish sounds you can get by cranking the Distortion and backing off the guitar’s volume.
punk? Personally I want to get close to the sound Life sentence had from Chicago back in 86. I elaborated on where they were from because it’s hard to find their songs since they weren’t a big band. My favorite song from them is peacetime death.
Could you tell us what the amp, speakers, mic and any post-processing are on this video? I know it's asking a lot, but I absolutely love the tone!
I jammed a Proco Rat through Peavey Special back in 80's. One of the loudest amps I've ever owned.
Dude, I have had a peavey special 112 for a few years now, and I haven't cranked it past like 3 ever. Seriously loud and a cool clean tone too.
@@previn yeah I have a backstage 110 hurts my ears past 2
All dials between 2 and 3 and it sounds awesome!
How are you getting such tight low end here??? Ive modded my Proco rat 2 by putting in an IC socket and an LM308N in it. And put and on off on switch to remove R6 in one position(ruetz mod), replace it in another and in the last position use a 100ohm resistor instead. I really am starting to enjoy the tones im getting from it now but the low end is always pretty "squishey" lol for lack of a better term if the gain is past about 10 o clock in the stock position. Its like the sound you get from dialing the resonance control up too high on a Marshall. But in this video the sound is focused and tight and sounds symmetrical, very musical. I could be completely off but my best guess is its the les paul your playing and its vintage output pups? Im using a JB/59 set that i have wired for coils splitting on both. Id love to know how you got the tone here so i can work towards getting it myself. I can built my own pedals etc. and id love to get the sound outta my rat you had here. Maybe the trick is lesser output humbuckers and really working the volume/tone controls? I know you have your own style and dont normally if ever use a pick but id think if anything finger picking would lead to less articulation in this situatiuon? Anyways, again great tone!
I have one of these(1988 woodcutter) I modded the shite out of years ago and just looked those up on reverb and almost cried because they command decent tube combo level money.
It sounds great! I picked up a 1986 back in ‘98 for $35. It seems they’ve gone up in value. 😀
I still have mine from 87. Love it. I just don't turn the distortion up as high as he was doing.
I have an 80s Rat that I bought new at the time and I've come back to using it as my lead tone. Great sound. Mine seems to have more output than Andy's. I don't see any reason to increase the output on mine. The one difficulty I have is that it react to the volume knobs on my guitars way differently than clean or an overdrive pedal, so sometimes it's hard to balance the sound. That's probably just in the nature of it having a lot more gain.
I use a rat 2 from ‘93 (it’s got an lm308n chip) and I use it to nail the early melvins sound. i got a video on my channel of my attempt at capturing the tone on Lysol by the Melvins
Killin it as always
Thanks Andy...recently picked up the Lawrence Petross Design VRMN Limited...a take on the ProCo RAT...going to put it through its paces tonight! 😎🎸
Yessssss currently borrowing one! Playing one tonight in fact!
Best distortion of my life.
@3:55 for a second I think Andy forgot he was making a review video and just enjoyed playing.
You can tell he really likes this pedal. Try putting an overdrive in front of it with singles coils and you can get into 'bucker sounding territory.
Interesting review. I currently have a Rat 2, not sure the age (it has sloping sides, if that tells anything). This 8s probably my 4th “distortion” pedal, and I can’t seem to find one I like. This Rat seems to have too much midrange, along with being very bright. I don’t like mid range and I wish I could pull more low end out of.
On either side, though, I have a Klon Klone (OD) in front of the Rat and a JHS Muffeletta (Fuzz) after. I love both of those pedals a great deal. I should also point out that I only play at home, these days, and have sold my bigger Fender And Vox amplifiers. I now play thru a 1965 original blackface Fender Champ tube amp, which I’ve had for 20-something years and dearly love. While that is a small amp, and I’m aware some pedals work very differently depending on the amp, it gets plenty loud and sounds great with all my other pedals.
Any thoughts, Rat Fans? Maybe I still haven’t found what I’m looking for (sorry 🤣) or I else All distortions have similar tonal characteristics, so I need to live with it.
Andy that chart on ur right with colour fret markings where did u get it from
Lee & my Games room looks like it’s a lap steel
What song was it at the beginning?
I have it emulated on my amp and find it to have a very singing lead tone. I did something different on mine. I find that if you have the gain all the way up and the volume around 1, you have almost a "Clean distortion" where it is more of a saturation rather than just a dominating effect. You add that with a slap back delay and you have almost one version of the David Gilmour tone. I tend to like note clarity even on an overdriven channel where you can still hear every note in a chord.
That ibanez ts7 in the back was one of my first pedals ever when i was about 15.