I totally agree about the sustain - when I got mine I joked about it being a disadvantage - even the wrong notes last forever! A world class instrument , no question.
Really like yamahas they are built very well and can stand up to humidity changes ,2 years ago I bought a 1982 Yamaha FG 300M ,M stands for mahogany back and sides ofcourse ,all I did to it was put bone nut and saddle and pins and its very loud ,not only high strings but lower as well just love them now
I have LL16m that has been set up with bone nut, saddle, and bridge was modified for unslotted bone bridge pins. Love that guitar. Also have an FS5, what else can be said about those that hasn’t already been said. Really can’t beat yammies
Change out the pastic pins and saddle with Tusk and it becomes a completely different sounding insturment. More sustain, harmonics, and projection. You will not regret the change and not expensive. Change the nut and it balances the sound a bit more and takes about 30 minutes to fit by sanding. At least change the pins as this made the biggest difference, then saddle, then nut all for about $50 US.
I'm so torn between the l series and the a series. Yamaha is really hitting it out of park with high quality instruments and like working class folk prices. Your playing is amazing! I'm just starting to get into bluegrass, something about it is so calming and wholesome to the soul.
A for versatility, richness of tone/deeper bass, cutaway & neck-feel. L for dollar value/saving $500 or more, crystal-clear mids, & super-convenient noiseless pickup. But the neck on the L16s is pretty beefy, so if you like an easier neck I'd go A. That said, the L neck is more stable and toneful. If a higher-end L (26 and up) is w/in budget, those necks are slimmer so that won't be an issue and will of course blow the A (and most other guitars) away in all other respects too; they're just a bit more mid-range/clear instead of warm or growly, so ya need warm or bassy strings. The L's make incredibly loud & crystal harmonics, beautiful. I went LL16, but would've also kept the A5R if the SRT2 preamp didn't have so much signal noise. It's an issue on all guitars with that system, plug in with headphones to hear for yourself. L16 pickups are absolutely silent. You will not be disappointed with either- only questions are how much do you need a cut-away, how badly does the SRT2 noise bug ya, what size neck do you pref, and do you want more bassy or crystal? Cheers 👍
A series sucks. Cramped string spacing, and the e's slip off the side pretty easily. The one he's playing here is outstanding, as good as you'll ever see at the price point.
Been using an LL6 for a few years now which is the laminated rosewood version of the LL16, and the sustain was what pulled me in. I live in Nova Scotia so I needed something that would hold up to temp and humidity changes better than a solid body so at $800 I dove right in. Soon after found a broken-in 2004 model with a 3 ply neck rather than 5 which is even better.
Fellow Nova Scotian, been considering switching up to one of these as well. Played one at my old job and it was the last one in the province for sale for a while haha Hard to find them new locally too. Stuck between one of these or going for a recording king. Just can’t justify the ridiculous price of a good Martin these days .
@@NickBishop Recording King is also a tremendous choice but alllllways go for rosewood. I find mahogany to be too deadening of the sound but I had an original RK Songstress w/ mahogany I had a lend of for a few days that sounded phenomenal. Rosewood just sings in all the right places
Sounds great Patrik! I had a beautiful FG2000 for a long time, I loved it, sounded fantastic, but not really useful for Bluegrass. Now I sold it and bought a used LL36. My son Ralph, an amazing Bluegrass flatpicker, banjo and mandolin player as well, never liked any Yamaha for Bluegrass. He agreed that the good ones were excellent guitars, but after playing my LL36, he even admitted that it could be a good Bluegrass guitar! Did not expect that from him.... But I agree, I love my LL! (by the way, my wife had a beautiful LL500, but sold it, also not for Bluegrass, she plays a Martin M36 now, very versatile guitar, for any kind of music, even Bluegrass I think).
Yeah the LL36 are the "same" as my LL16 specwice and in terms of look. Very high quality. Yours is Japan but mine is still way nice. Its more well built then the D28 to be honest .
Not sure if that would be my choice when it comes to Yamahas for grass, I have a couple older Yamaha that sound pretty good try the FG series they have a new red label out that sounds pretty darn good, D18 ish.
Iv tried and owned FG. This one got more volume and punch,wich i prefer. And every LL16 and above are always good,iv tried some naaaah FG series,never LL.
Please tell me if you record LL16 sound in the sound card line, there is no passive pickup and equalizer in the guitar, ie nothing can be changed, only on PC or mixer, does it work well, is it better fgx830 c with active pickup?
I'm considering buying a used LL 16 a.r.e. (not deluxe) I found for €900. How do you feel about the loudness of the guitar. I need a canon guitar. Do you think the Yamaha can cut through at bluegrass jams?
Hey man, does this beat all your Recording kings and sigmas? Im thinkin about gettin this one but im afraid it might be too bright, im a pick strummer and i like a smooth sound. Not much of a finger picker or bluegrass guy, more strumming and rock.
@@Flatpicknation I have the 12 string version that i bought on impulse in a sale a few weeks ago. Never owner a Yamaha before, it is awesome. If I saw a used 6 string now i would probably just get one. Seems much better than my RK RD318
I was on a budget and got an ls6 that was 400 pounds down from 650 and I bloody love it yams are so underrated
Got me the LL16D ARE and it's an amazing sounding guitar.
What a guitar brother! Yes it is.
The only difference between a ll16 and a ll16d is that the ll16d just comes with a hard shell? Correct me if I’m wrong
@@LordFarquaad_II the deluxe version has a binding around the edge of the guitar, which many believe gives it a tad more responsiveness
I totally agree about the sustain - when I got mine I joked about it being a disadvantage - even the wrong notes last forever!
A world class instrument , no question.
That first strum lol, wow just keeps ringing, beautiful guitars these, amazing value, I think I'm going to buy one before they're impossible to get.
just look at the joy of that face
Really like yamahas they are built very well and can stand up to humidity changes ,2 years ago I bought a 1982 Yamaha FG 300M ,M stands for mahogany back and sides ofcourse ,all I did to it was put bone nut and saddle and pins and its very loud ,not only high strings but lower as well just love them now
I have LL16m that has been set up with bone nut, saddle, and bridge was modified for unslotted bone bridge pins. Love that guitar. Also have an FS5, what else can be said about those that hasn’t already been said. Really can’t beat yammies
Change out the pastic pins and saddle with Tusk and it becomes a completely different sounding insturment. More sustain, harmonics, and projection. You will not regret the change and not expensive. Change the nut and it balances the sound a bit more and takes about 30 minutes to fit by sanding. At least change the pins as this made the biggest difference, then saddle, then nut all for about $50 US.
I'm so torn between the l series and the a series. Yamaha is really hitting it out of park with high quality instruments and like working class folk prices. Your playing is amazing! I'm just starting to get into bluegrass, something about it is so calming and wholesome to the soul.
A for versatility, richness of tone/deeper bass, cutaway & neck-feel. L for dollar value/saving $500 or more, crystal-clear mids, & super-convenient noiseless pickup. But the neck on the L16s is pretty beefy, so if you like an easier neck I'd go A. That said, the L neck is more stable and toneful. If a higher-end L (26 and up) is w/in budget, those necks are slimmer so that won't be an issue and will of course blow the A (and most other guitars) away in all other respects too; they're just a bit more mid-range/clear instead of warm or growly, so ya need warm or bassy strings. The L's make incredibly loud & crystal harmonics, beautiful. I went LL16, but would've also kept the A5R if the SRT2 preamp didn't have so much signal noise. It's an issue on all guitars with that system, plug in with headphones to hear for yourself. L16 pickups are absolutely silent. You will not be disappointed with either- only questions are how much do you need a cut-away, how badly does the SRT2 noise bug ya, what size neck do you pref, and do you want more bassy or crystal? Cheers 👍
A series sucks. Cramped string spacing, and the e's slip off the side pretty easily. The one he's playing here is outstanding, as good as you'll ever see at the price point.
Great sounding !
I just bought this model. Fantastic. Thanks for the video!
Bro, does this guitar have a volume control? volume knob?
Been using an LL6 for a few years now which is the laminated rosewood version of the LL16, and the sustain was what pulled me in. I live in Nova Scotia so I needed something that would hold up to temp and humidity changes better than a solid body so at $800 I dove right in. Soon after found a broken-in 2004 model with a 3 ply neck rather than 5 which is even better.
Fellow Nova Scotian, been considering switching up to one of these as well. Played one at my old job and it was the last one in the province for sale for a while haha
Hard to find them new locally too. Stuck between one of these or going for a recording king. Just can’t justify the ridiculous price of a good Martin these days .
@@NickBishop Recording King is also a tremendous choice but alllllways go for rosewood. I find mahogany to be too deadening of the sound but I had an original RK Songstress w/ mahogany I had a lend of for a few days that sounded phenomenal. Rosewood just sings in all the right places
Great job Bro, thanks for sharing this with begginers like me, your a Rockstar 🍻
God Bless you Bro 👑🙏🏽
Yeah I used to have one, it was the LL16 ARE Not the deluxe but it had tons of sustain, should have kept that one
Sounds great Patrik! I had a beautiful FG2000 for a long time, I loved it, sounded fantastic, but not really useful for Bluegrass. Now I sold it and bought a used LL36. My son Ralph, an amazing Bluegrass flatpicker, banjo and mandolin player as well, never liked any Yamaha for Bluegrass. He agreed that the good ones were excellent guitars, but after playing my LL36, he even admitted that it could be a good Bluegrass guitar! Did not expect that from him.... But I agree, I love my LL! (by the way, my wife had a beautiful LL500, but sold it, also not for Bluegrass, she plays a Martin M36 now, very versatile guitar, for any kind of music, even Bluegrass I think).
Yeah the LL36 are the "same" as my LL16 specwice and in terms of look. Very high quality. Yours is Japan but mine is still way nice. Its more well built then the D28 to be honest .
This is the deluxe version btw.
@@Flatpicknation I have both a Martin D28 a brand new one and an LL16d. My Martin is the best guitar I've ever owned and I've had plenty.
Use taylor. Its better )
Great video! I really love the sound quality of your mic. Could you share what mic are you using ( setup too if possible) Thanks!
Wow. Really brilliant sound!
lovely
nice rigs, love it.
I own this in black...this guitar is the best sounding I own...and I have taylors..martins..prs 60..tamine 341 dx
hog or rosewood?
@@soofitnsexy rosewood
Not sure if that would be my choice when it comes to Yamahas for grass, I have a couple older Yamaha that sound pretty good try the FG series they have a new red label out that sounds pretty darn good, D18 ish.
Iv tried and owned FG. This one got more volume and punch,wich i prefer. And every LL16 and above are always good,iv tried some naaaah FG series,never LL.
@@Flatpicknation yeah those LL are quality instruments bro. Maybe the FG 5 I played was a really good one cause it sure was loud and sweet.
@@charlesfellows8130 there is a Yamaha FG180 limited edition out in sweden now but cant spare the 950$.
Sarebbe possibile sapere il prezzo della chitarra acustica Yamaha LL16 ? Grazie 🙏🏻
Please tell me if you record LL16 sound in the sound card line, there is no passive pickup and equalizer in the guitar, ie nothing can be changed, only on PC or mixer, does it work well, is it better fgx830 c with active pickup?
I'm considering buying a used LL 16 a.r.e. (not deluxe) I found for €900. How do you feel about the loudness of the guitar. I need a canon guitar. Do you think the Yamaha can cut through at bluegrass jams?
Man,i know they will. Have you seen the new FG9? Woah,would love to try one out.
LL16 works great in a jam.
Thanks!@@Flatpicknation
Hey man, does this beat all your Recording kings and sigmas?
Im thinkin about gettin this one but im afraid it might be too bright, im a pick strummer and i like a smooth sound. Not much of a finger picker or bluegrass guy, more strumming and rock.
Massive bass response on these as well, they are well rounded really.
Che corde hai montato
is that the ll16 Mahogany or Rosewood?
RW
@@Flatpicknation I have the 12 string version that i bought on impulse in a sale a few weeks ago. Never owner a Yamaha before, it is awesome. If I saw a used 6 string now i would probably just get one. Seems much better than my RK RD318
Does this guitar have a volume control? volume knob?
No, it's simply a fixed output jack socket.
@@martifingers oh ok thank you so much bro
Your video intro is way too long.